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Speaker 1: On yet another eighty degree day here in January in

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Speaker 1: Woodland Hills, we welcome you to a new edition of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California to Yoda

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Speaker 1: Dealers with Maurice Jones, Drew and DeMarco Farr. I'm JB.

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Speaker 1: Long And in case you can't tell, we lift weights.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you had to bring up weather, didn't.

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Speaker 1: You the beach yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey man, what do you expect? Yeah, it's beautiful

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Speaker 3: and not a cloud in the sky either.

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Speaker 2: No, what could have been? But what is?

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Speaker 4: You got to go to Chicago? It's going to be cold.

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Speaker 4: I think we all know that gonna be a fun game.

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Speaker 4: How about this another exciting weekend for us? What a

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Speaker 4: game in Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And I love that time of year. It's so funny.

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Speaker 4: Everybody spends money on these big screen TVs and what

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Speaker 4: do we do right after the game is huddle around

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Speaker 4: any screen we can get to catch in the next game,

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Speaker 4: the mixture we're watching.

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Speaker 2: I love this time of year, so much fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say the energy Carolina was awesome.

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Speaker 3: I think they invited anyone that played for the Panthers

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Speaker 3: at any given time, like my little cousin, who was

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Speaker 3: an undrafted guy to get to Carolina played for the

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Speaker 3: Panthers for like two years. He was on the sideline

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Speaker 3: they had ever Cam Newton to him. I mean you

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Speaker 3: you decided, Steve Smith that Greg Olsen calls the game

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Speaker 3: Louke Keigley like what an atmosphere was, And then I

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Speaker 3: thought it kind of sets you up going on the

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Speaker 3: road again in this next in another hostile environment. But

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Speaker 3: it was such a different energy from the first time

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Speaker 3: we played Carolina to that one, and I think that

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Speaker 3: kind of that was what you wanted to see.

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Speaker 2: You were definitely the opponent. They brought it.

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Speaker 1: They brought it downtown stadiums for the win. Am I right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: You were also right, Maurice, you were not fearful of Carolina,

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Speaker 1: but that was not a matchup you wanted to see again.

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Speaker 1: You sense that they were.

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Speaker 3: Just it's it's the double agent effect, JB. In the NFL,

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Speaker 3: you have, you know, coaches and players that played for

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Speaker 3: certain teams, and a lot of times when that pain

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Speaker 3: player is cut from the RAMS and gets picked up

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Speaker 3: by someone else. And if you look at Carolina's defensive roster,

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Speaker 3: it was literally Rams coaches, players, and to me, when

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Speaker 3: you practice and you play for a team for so long,

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Speaker 3: you understand the nuances of that team.

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Speaker 2: You understand that what.

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Speaker 3: They want to do on certain situations, who they want

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Speaker 3: showed up in that game. And so that was always

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Speaker 3: a concern for me. And that's happened to me before

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Speaker 3: in games where you know we've played, we traded a

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Speaker 3: guy and we played the team a week or two later,

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Speaker 3: and then the guys on the sideline and tell them

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Speaker 3: all our players, you know. So it's just like you know,

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Speaker 3: you're a double agent, bro, you can't do that, But

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Speaker 3: those things happen.

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Speaker 2: Coach Everro had a hell of a game plan. It

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Speaker 2: was a great chess match.

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Speaker 4: I thought Carolina threw a lot of things out him defensively,

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Speaker 4: and they did a great job of sifting through and

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Speaker 4: figuring stuff out. And once you got them worn down,

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Speaker 4: some stafford took over and you were able to get

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Speaker 4: the game. But yeah, with you and when you play

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Speaker 4: tough games like that, that's almost like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: back in old NFC West days, when Carolina was in

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Speaker 4: the division, that's how much it seemed like they knew you,

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Speaker 4: and vice versa, dropping to certain areas when certain guys

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Speaker 4: are over there, just taking someone We're not supposed to

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Speaker 4: be in that area, but there you go, because twelve's

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Speaker 4: over there exactly.

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Speaker 1: Lo and behold. Winning on the road in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: is tough too. I mean, we went first last weekend,

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Speaker 1: but you found that out throughout wild card weekend. And

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Speaker 1: I understand the sentiment overall, like leaving Carolina because you

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Speaker 1: were heavily favored, feeling like you should have put them

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Speaker 1: But let's not forget the Rams put up thirty four

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Speaker 1: despite Matthew Stafford playing through a bum finger. I think

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Speaker 1: he went three of nineteen in the middle of that

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought, again, the Rams had a great game

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Speaker 3: plan offensively. I thought, when you jump out like that

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Speaker 3: want to try to put a win. I thought, Sean,

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Speaker 3: you saw throughout Wild Card weekend how aggressive people were

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Speaker 3: on fourth down. But it's because you have to put

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Speaker 3: try to put them away if you're up. The Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: Jaguars another one that I look to. They were up

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Speaker 3: on the Bills and Liam Cohen calls a Reid option,

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Speaker 3: great play, quarterback slips and egos down. But if he

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Speaker 3: gets that first down they go and score. That game

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Speaker 3: is over with.

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson had to explain himself at halftime on National

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Speaker 3: Right, it's the Packers again, those are you have to

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Speaker 3: try to put teams away in the playoffs, and it

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Speaker 3: just backfired a ton in this situation. But like I said,

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Speaker 3: that's a great experience for all the players on this

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Speaker 3: Very similar to what I said with the Panthers, Because

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Speaker 3: the Panthers beat you, they weren't afraid of you the

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Speaker 3: second time, right, and you had to go and you

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Speaker 3: have to go and prove to them that you're better

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Speaker 3: than they are. That experience of them beating you helped

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Speaker 3: them in that realm. I think the experience of the

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Speaker 3: Rams going on the road and winning is going to

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Speaker 3: help them here in the division round.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know how I see things.

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Speaker 4: Thirty four points this offense with the weapons you have,

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, normal, I don't care who you are, where

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Speaker 4: you are, what happens. You should be able to score

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Speaker 4: into the thirties if you don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: Right, which they did.

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Speaker 4: The problem is how much did you give up? That's

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Speaker 4: the issue for me. So when you talk about putting

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Speaker 4: games away, this is so interesting. Early on, I thought

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Speaker 4: the Rams defense did a fantastic job of getting them

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Speaker 2: They just couldn't get out.

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Speaker 4: And when you have it, when you talk about putting

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Speaker 4: to second and nineteen and they pick up a first down,

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Speaker 4: that's a missed opportunity.

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Speaker 2: That's a miss birdy opportunity. You got to put those.

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Speaker 4: Those plays away so you can win those games in

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Speaker 1: Totally, And we'll dive deep on the deficiencies the Rams

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Speaker 1: have had defensively in this last month. When we get

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Speaker 1: into our head to head against the Bears, I will say,

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Speaker 1: given the resources allocated to this defense, if you say

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Speaker 1: you three extra possessions, a takeaway, two turnovers on downs.

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Speaker 1: The Rams should be playing next weekend. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to lower the bar of expectations, but when you're getting

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Speaker 1: three additional possessions to your offense, yeah, with this roster,

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Speaker 4: That was the one in Carolina. It was the end

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Speaker 4: of the first quarter and you had them at third

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Speaker 4: don't think they scored on the drive, but he was

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Speaker 4: allowed to salt away that last three minutes. That should

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Speaker 4: have gone to Stafford. And that's another thing. When it

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Speaker 4: over there freezing, you know what I mean. So the

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Speaker 4: more times, the quicker you can get out, the better

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Speaker 4: it is. But I'm right there with you. You just

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Speaker 1: The defense needs to be better. But when you recover

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Speaker 1: a muff punt and plus territory and you lose seven

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Speaker 1: points before the half, right, I mean your offense needs

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Speaker 3: I'll say this too. I thought their philosophy in Carolina

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Speaker 3: put five guys out in routes. Right, they run two

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Speaker 3: eliminate your pass rush, right, that's gonna force your pass

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Speaker 3: on ones that you're trying to get. And so again,

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Speaker 3: it just overall playing Carolina and their mindset and how

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Speaker 3: they wanted to play football because they wanted to protect

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Speaker 3: didn't feel that it was a good matchup. This week

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Speaker 3: is completely different. This week is gonna be completely different

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Speaker 3: because again, the Bears like to get five guys out

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Speaker 3: bode when we're gonna dive into it. But again, like

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Speaker 3: I said, Carolina was just the double agents on defense.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like and I didn't like the way their

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Speaker 3: because you have a team that max protects, I don't

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Speaker 4: They tried, they really did try to go five wide

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Speaker 4: line went bonkers. That is almost the tri effecta by

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Speaker 4: the way, let me shout that out. When you run

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Speaker 4: and you get a sack on the same play. All

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Speaker 4: But that right there sparked everything and changed their protection

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Speaker 1: I think Josiah Stewart's a big piece.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be a star.

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Speaker 1: Are going to play three more games and win three

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Speaker 1: more games. I think he's a big piece.

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Speaker 4: That body type for that position and how he plays.

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Speaker 4: Think James Harrison, Yeah, a little more explosive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before we talk Soldier field in the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 1: can we frame the weekend because here we are in

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Speaker 1: the divisional round for the second January in a row.

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Speaker 1: I know the forty nine Ers fans are furious that

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Speaker 1: they're playing on Saturday and the Rams are playing on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But just like when we flew to Philadelphia and we

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Speaker 1: the one Seed in Detroit and we slept on the pillows.

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Speaker 1: Knowing that the Rams had a chance to host the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, potential for a similar setup this weekend.

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Speaker 1: The Rams will land go check into the hotel, We'll

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Speaker 1: watch our NFC West rivals go head to head, and

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Speaker 1: that means Sunday at Soldier Field. Two things are possible.

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Speaker 1: Either you're playing for the right to go avenge that

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Speaker 1: to host another NFC Championship game against the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers at sofa.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you that I don't like that. I

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Speaker 1: What about the echoes of twenty one when the Niners

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Speaker 2: Then I'm thinking hot wings.

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Speaker 4: it's I'm with you on that. When you're watching it

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Speaker 1: I just think an all NFC West NFC Championship game

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Speaker 4: Hollywood can't come up with a better script. I mean,

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Speaker 4: And that's what I mean by going beyond practice, because

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Speaker 3: The only thing this too, Like as much as I

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: I do love like all eyes on you and you

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Speaker 1: Talk about that the Bears are fun. Let's just say that, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Caleb's got ties to this city. There's a

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Speaker 1: off an emotional high. Like you've probably seen this sentiment too.

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Speaker 1: Last week was their Super Bowl away.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, first.

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Speaker 1: Playoff win in fifteen years. You take down a rival again,

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Speaker 1: I think there's an emotional challenge for them to not

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Speaker 3: It's funny you say that because I was reading through

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Speaker 1: Right, Seven wins from down at the two minute warning

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a closing course. I would say this.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be high, and you're gonna be fun, and

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Speaker 4: it's great, and the Ben Johnson hire is a success.

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Speaker 4: It's a win because you got the playoff victory, and

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Speaker 4: in the postseason. I do have some cheesehead friends, very few,

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Speaker 4: So even if they're high and it's like you said

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Speaker 4: It ain't over just because we beat the Packers. We

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Speaker 4: It was great, But I don't think they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Was twenty eighteen at Soldier Field the coldest you've ever

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Speaker 2: Had to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, both times on like in my life where I've

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Speaker 2: We're both in Chicago. Really yeah, super cool.

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Speaker 4: The first time as a player, it was minus eight

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Speaker 2: My body just went to bed.

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Speaker 3: It was it was what I thought. That one we

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Speaker 2: Cold, but this was different, Like, yeah, please end this game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you listen to social media. Maybe we just shouldn't go.

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Speaker 1: It's is not worth our time. This game has already

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Speaker 2: They've been through it before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sean's been joking about it, like I think that's

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Speaker 1: The other thing he's joking about is the Lafleur family

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Speaker 2: To just wow?

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Speaker 3: That group chat is jumping?

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Speaker 1: You want to go Rams offense or Rams defense?

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Speaker 4: We can go offense, though, no, no, no, no, they'll start

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna ramp up, like you said, versus Chicago,

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Speaker 3: kind of get it to Chicago here in a second.

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Speaker 3: But I thought the first couple drives, those scripted drives, right,

439
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Speaker 3: you Sean knew exactly what he wanted. He had first twelve,

440
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Speaker 3: like you're coming out and stuff, you get in the

441
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Speaker 3: red zone, you move right down the field. But what

442
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Speaker 3: was more impressive was the nonscript is stuff right when

443
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Speaker 3: you gotta have it, and you're still able to go

444
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Speaker 3: down the field and put up points. In the catch

445
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Speaker 3: by Kobe Parkinson again, a guy that had the dropsies

446
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Speaker 3: for the last couple of weeks. It comes up big

447
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,239
Speaker 3: in that moment. What a catch there, and then keep

448
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Speaker 3: his feeding bounds. We go to Chicago. I think the

449
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Speaker 3: Rams you had, you could their success there to be had.

450
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Speaker 3: But you have to and again the Rams always Lyne

451
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Speaker 3: has done a great job. You have to stop those

452
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Speaker 3: edge rushers. Those edge rushers will, they will cause havoc

453
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Speaker 3: they try to stop the run. They're gonna be physical

454
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Speaker 3: and so to me. But they have and I would

455
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Speaker 3: say the biggest difference is the Rams are starting to

456
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Speaker 3: get healthy and guys are getting weeks under their belts.

457
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Speaker 3: Again where Chicago linebacker just got hurt. You know, linemen

458
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Speaker 3: are getting hurt. Guys are getting banged up. So you

459
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Speaker 3: have advantage there with them playing some guys that haven't

460
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Speaker 3: been used to playing.

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about Montes Sweat who got the Rams

462
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Speaker 1: in Week four last year. Austin Booker on the other edge,

463
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Speaker 1: This is not a good defense. But they may have

464
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Speaker 1: just played their best half of football in the second

465
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Speaker 1: half against the Green Bay Packers, so there's reason for optimism.

466
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Speaker 1: And my goodness, are they opportunistic. The one thing they

467
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Speaker 1: do well takeaways and particularly interceptions. Last week against Green

468
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Speaker 1: Bay was the first time the twenty twenty five Bears

469
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Speaker 1: won a game without a takeaway. Wow, it was the

470
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Speaker 1: first time they won a game without winning the turn

471
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Speaker 1: not just neutral, without winning the turnover margin.

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, you, Edwards is out yep, right,

473
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Speaker 3: so that that'll help.

474
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Speaker 1: They were great at linebacker to begin with.

475
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Speaker 3: Again, is it we we Their safeties are really good.

476
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Speaker 3: I think Johnson, their corner, is really good. But my

477
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Speaker 3: question is this, do you want to tackle a two

478
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen twenty pound pool in the cold. That's

479
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Speaker 3: that's That's what it comes down to. I think that's

480
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Speaker 3: been the Ram superpower all year. Do your corners? Are

481
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Speaker 3: your corners willing to tackle two and twenty pounds pooka nakua?

482
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Speaker 2: Right?

483
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Speaker 3: If they're not willing to tackle, you're gonna get fifteen

484
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Speaker 3: twenty opportunities to pookin nakua. And then on the other side, well, hold.

485
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Speaker 1: On real quickly, we jump in there. Who's gonna play

486
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Speaker 1: in the slot because you got Johnson and right out wide?

487
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Speaker 3: Yep.

488
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they can hang in Manda Man

489
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Speaker 1: matchups with the rams top two receivers. But at Nickel

490
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Speaker 1: is it CJ? Gardner? Johnson? Is it Kyler Gordon? Is

491
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Speaker 1: it Nick McCloud. They have some options there, yes, But

492
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure those are their preferred options, their preferred

493
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Speaker 1: way to play. And so what I don't want is

494
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Speaker 1: the Rams to be paralyzed by all of their options,

495
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Speaker 1: because I think there's a lot of ways for the

496
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Speaker 1: Rams to win this game offensively. One in particular, I'll

497
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Speaker 1: get to, but I'll pass it back to you. Chicago

498
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Speaker 1: hasn't contended with a lot of thirteen. Not in the

499
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Speaker 1: doses that the Rams can dole out. You can win

500
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Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, Or what we saw in Carolina is

501
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Speaker 1: no matter how good your corners are, we feel like

502
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Speaker 1: we're better and we're gonna we're gonna dance with who

503
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Speaker 1: brought us and that's our MVP, Matthew Stafford.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
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Speaker 3: No, I I think that's been the beautiful part about

506
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Speaker 3: the Rams. They could beat you in so many different ways.

507
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Speaker 3: I think you mix it up. I think there's gonna

508
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Speaker 3: be times when you're gonna see thirteen personnel with Pooka

509
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Speaker 3: out there. You're gonna see times thirteen personnel with DeVante

510
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Speaker 3: out there.

511
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Speaker 2: You're gonna see it.

512
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Speaker 3: Yep, sounds like another right, So you're gonna they're they're

513
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Speaker 3: they're like again when I talk about getting healthy, that's

514
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Speaker 3: that's what I mean, like all of a sudden, all

515
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Speaker 3: these weapons, and it's this question was brought up in

516
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Speaker 3: my one of my group chats. I have a group

517
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Speaker 3: chat with a bunch of Niner fans and all this

518
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Speaker 3: and that, and you know they always talk about their injuries,

519
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Speaker 3: but I was like, you know, the Rams have det

520
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Speaker 3: with some critical injuries at critical points at the time

521
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Speaker 3: of the year, not having Quentin lake k Dot going down,

522
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Speaker 3: Davante going down, and yet they're still able to make

523
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Speaker 3: plays because other guys are stepped up and made you know,

524
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Speaker 3: they've made they've taken the most of their opportunities and

525
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Speaker 3: those reps. All that does is help your ophins get better,

526
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Speaker 3: because if Davante doesn't go down, t Ferg's not playing,

527
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 3: he's not doing all the receiver stuff that he did

528
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Speaker 3: in Atlanta and all the other stuff. So that becomes

529
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Speaker 3: a different a different animal for you that you've you

530
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: figured out and so you've unlocked. And so to me,

531
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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be so many different ways the

532
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Speaker 3: Rams can go after it. But the most important thing

533
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Speaker 3: is is is to me is Kadot and is controlling

534
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. So anytime it's cold, I firmly

535
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Speaker 3: believe this. You have to beat up the other side.

536
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: Like Debarco said, the longer we can keep you on

537
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Speaker 3: the field, the longer your offense is off the field.

538
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Speaker 1: I do think there's an element of you've got to

539
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Speaker 1: protect your defense in this game. The question is how

540
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Speaker 1: do you do it? K Dot coming back. Maybe he

541
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Speaker 1: does solve for some of that short yardage run deficiency

542
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Speaker 1: that you've been dealing with lately, or maybe it's just, hey,

543
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Speaker 1: that hasn't been our strength. We're gonna lean into our strength,

544
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Speaker 1: and that is Matthew Stafford. Even in tough conditions, throw

545
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Speaker 1: into our best weapons.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of that, Davante Adams, I take back everything I

547
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Speaker 4: said after that wide receiver thing on Netflix. Remember that

548
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 4: the whole thing. Everything that dude is. He's tough, he's good,

549
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Speaker 4: he's he's a great player.

550
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Speaker 2: Period.

551
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Speaker 4: That shot by Nick Scott should have ended you at

552
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Speaker 4: least for the day. And he went to the tent,

553
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 4: came back out and kept playing. I thought that was tremendous,

554
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Speaker 4: and I think Chicago could set up to be a

555
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: game for him as a possession type running the ball

556
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Speaker 4: through the air, because I do think they're going to

557
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Speaker 4: try to match up personnel wise and send as many

558
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Speaker 4: people as possible in these exotic little twist.

559
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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Staff, do you think Dennis

560
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Speaker 1: Allen is gonna throw the kitchen sink at Matthew Staff? Absolutely,

561
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Speaker 1: he can't win with four.

562
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Speaker 4: So I mean not to question play calling or Sean

563
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: mcvaer anybody, but the the going vertical on third down,

564
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: not going for the sticks. Ye, but that is the

565
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: covers you want. And when you look and stop the tape,

566
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Speaker 4: that's one on one with Davante, one on one with Pooka.

567
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Speaker 4: That's what you want. That's what you're designing for. So

568
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Speaker 4: I see a lot of that on first and ten

569
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Speaker 4: because I think they're gonna come after you because they

570
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Speaker 4: have to generate some sort of.

571
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Speaker 1: Pass they did in the second half against Green Bay, right.

572
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Speaker 4: So Davante that's got to be one hundred percent and

573
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Speaker 4: Pooka Nakula just keep doing what you're doing.

574
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. Either they hand it to or throw

575
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: it to him short.

576
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Speaker 4: At some point you're going to make that business decision,

577
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: like I'm tired of hitting this dude when it's cold

578
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: outside and he slips in for a touchdown or picks

579
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Speaker 4: up a first down. But I think Davante on first

580
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Speaker 4: and ten is going to be huge, especially in the

581
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Speaker 4: first half.

582
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Speaker 3: And let me say this too, Davante. I thought Davante

583
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: was gonna have a big game, and I thought he

584
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: had some opportunities to do that. But the speed of

585
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: the game, you got to get back a cuss used

586
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Speaker 3: to it. Right, You've been out three weeks almost a month,

587
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: so it's like you got to get back in the

588
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: in the the the flow of the game to do that.

589
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 3: In the wild card and stuff, he had that one

590
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Speaker 3: drop where it kind of got out him pretty quickly.

591
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: But to me, it's like, Okay, I remember when I

592
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: got hurt and it was like it took me like

593
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Speaker 3: a week to get back into Like, okay, all right,

594
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Speaker 3: I get it now. Like I see the way that

595
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: things are going to start to slow down. I think

596
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Speaker 3: for him that's going to happen this week.

597
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Speaker 1: Can I call back to another Rams memory that this

598
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Speaker 1: time of year is always on my mind? It is

599
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Speaker 1: Do you remember the Divisional round in twenty eighteen at

600
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Speaker 1: the Coliseum against the Dallas Cowboys. Yes, they came out

601
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: with Gurley and CJ and handed it off near fifty times,

602
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: rushed for almost three hundred yards, put three in the box,

603
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: and it just had this demeanor, this disposition that you

604
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: don't belong on the same field as us. We know

605
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: our challenge is going on the road to New Orleans.

606
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Speaker 1: That's our roadblock. You're not get out of here. I've

607
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: been pining for that ever since. And I don't know

608
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: if this is that week, but I think that option

609
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: is on the table because if the Bears or Mother

610
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: Nature kind of take the explosive passing game away or

611
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Tampa down, I know, I know that the rams can

612
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: run rough shot against the Chicago Bears. For all to

613
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: talk about Chicago's running game, and it is dangerous and

614
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Speaker 1: it has the potential to bounce the Rams. La was

615
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Speaker 1: historically efficient and productive running the football this year because

616
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Speaker 1: of their passing game, because of the thread their passing game.

617
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: But I would not mind one bit if Matthew's MVP

618
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: dream season would just just put aside for one second

619
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Speaker 1: when the game just go handle this business, get and

620
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Speaker 1: get to the challenge, which we know might be Seattle

621
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Speaker 1: on that road test.

622
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Speaker 2: How did you run when the ground was frozen?

623
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Speaker 3: The best games I was trying to get out of there.

624
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: That's what I thought, well, trying to get out of there.

625
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: Besides the fact that you hate the cold.

626
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: No, I'm just talking about it, oh because I know

627
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 3: see the beautiful part about playing the cold or in

628
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: the snow or the elements. I know where I'm going.

629
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Speaker 3: You don't. You have to adjust. You have to if

630
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: I make a move or a cut, or if I'm

631
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Speaker 3: Kyra and I jump cut, I'm on balance. You don't

632
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: know where I'm going.

633
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Speaker 4: And so that to me is where why I asked

634
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: you is every time I played on frozen turf, I

635
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: hated it because number one, I couldn't get my cleats

636
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: in the ground to dig in, so I can't even

637
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: get off, so I'm flat footed out there. So instead

638
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: of attacking, I'm catching, you know what I mean. So

639
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: that's the running game gets going.

640
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I hope that happens. I hope you

641
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: can get Blake, Korm and Kyron going.

642
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be ground and pound, like

643
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, the touchdown screen to Pooka. That's a running play.

644
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, jet sweeps running play screen game to your

645
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: tight end running play, I would say, keep her game

646
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: quick to the flat those are all extensions of your

647
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: of your running game, and I feel like you can

648
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: not only have a lot of success against these Chicago Bears,

649
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: but also stay on the field, keep the chains churning,

650
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: and like I said, protect your defense a little bit.

651
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a prediction. Davis Allen's gonna get somebody

652
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: this week. When's the last time we set his name.

653
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: Like decleating somebody or those quick.

654
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: Screens like you said, little half roll to the hammer,

655
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: the the the other one. You know what I mean?

656
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 4: He just turns up and runs somebody over the hell

657
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: with the goal line. I'm just going for your helmet,

658
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: that type of stuff. I going to get one.

659
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: His mindset has changed so much from two years ago

660
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: to this year. It's been crazy. Like he is the

661
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: physical presence in that tight ends room.

662
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: He's the one.

663
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: What was the Higbe bite about Davis Allen? What something

664
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: you called him? He looks like an accountant or something.

665
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: Like, Oh well, I can't say it.

666
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: On this.

667
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: Christian Bale played the character. Oh yeah, you know what

668
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean. He likes see Lewis.

669
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think again, you know, we we haven't

670
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: talked Tyler Higby coming back. His physicality in the game

671
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: and catching the ball and doing those things are important.

672
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: And then to me it again, I think the ramsers

673
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: is getting healthier and healthier, and that is we haven't

674
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: seen that. And I don't know how long this whole

675
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: team together at once.

676
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they held anything back offense will be

677
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: last week. But I do think there's large swaths of

678
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: their game plan or who they've been identity wise on

679
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: offense that they did not deploy last week that played

680
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: really well against.

681
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: The plan to win to show you the next week. Yes,

682
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 2: I'm right there.

683
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they said let's not do this so

684
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: that we can use it next week. That's not what

685
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying right, right, but just building. But what they

686
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: tried to do against the Carolina Panthers, I don't think

687
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: necessarily is what this Sunday looks like.

688
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: But that going back to Arizona the end of the

689
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: regular season, when you got in the dogfight and you

690
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: had to unleash that Puka end around, right.

691
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: And then Carolina used to break last play, right, That's

692
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

693
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: So, yeah, there's stuff that they haven't run that they

694
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: could run and you had success with that.

695
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: They'll come back and they.

696
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Didn't even move Matthew Spot a whole lot against Carolina.

697
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: Not much need to you did pretty good. I think

698
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: he only took one big shot and that was on

699
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: a when they missed a Blitz pick up. But yeah,

700
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: he's for the most part, he was well protected.

701
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Anything else Rams offense against Bears defense.

702
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: Before we flip side, did I mention Josiah Stewart knocked

703
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: another tackle out.

704
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: I think that might be for this is crazy. I

705
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: don't know where this power is coming from.

706
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Well let's go there, because just like the Bears are

707
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: down a key linebacker, they're going to be down a

708
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: left tackle this week. And I think that's a good

709
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: place to start. Why not talk about the trenches first?

710
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: Can you contain Caleb Williams and can you really exploit

711
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: that left tackle, whether it's Bracton Jones or whoever ends

712
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: up being the film.

713
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: I think so.

714
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: I love the competition among the d lin and you

715
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: can tell because Fist makes a sack, two plays, Letter

716
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: Punaford makes a sack, Josiah Stewart gets it started, and

717
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: then Byron Young, who has grown up because.

718
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: The Carolina quarterback helped me real quick.

719
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: Bryce Young tried to get outside a few times on

720
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: that run pass option, and he did a spectacular job

721
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: of choking it down and forcing him at least to

722
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: the sideline or not letting him attack.

723
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was great.

724
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: We all loved that play in the third quarter where

725
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: he was matched up one on one out of the

726
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: numbers with the quarterback and instead of shooting his shot

727
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: and trying to get this out, he played it for

728
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the incompletion, played it like the predator. Yeah, and it

729
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: worked out great. And I think that plays this weekend

730
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: too against a year ago.

731
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 4: Definitely two years ago. He's up passed and that guy

732
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: runs for a first down. So he's grown. And I'm

733
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: glad that's starting to meld because you got the ultimate

734
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: guy coming up. So even if he boots left, he

735
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: may finish on the opposite hatch, it's never dead with him,

736
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: so you're gonna have to keep that containment.

737
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this, This is gonna The matchup I

738
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 3: want to see is whoever's on Jonah Jackson.

739
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: He's been playing pretty good.

740
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been playing Ben Johnson go together.

741
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: Remember like the Rams brought him here for that he

742
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: got banged up. You guys have practiced against each other.

743
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: Whoever dominates wins that matchup, I think is gonna give

744
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: the opposing team the advantage. And the reason being is this,

745
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: when you practice against somebody.

746
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: You know this.

747
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: I know your tendencies, I know your moves, I know

748
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: what you like to do. I've studied you in practice right,

749
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: what you like when you're scared. Yeah, I know all

750
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: these different things. And so it works both ways for

751
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: the Rams and the Bears, especially in that specific matchup,

752
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: because if you can get pressure on Caleb Williams up

753
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: the middle, he's not as crazy as when guys are

754
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: crashing on the outside because he'll step up and spin

755
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: up the middle. He tries to like reverse spin out,

756
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: and normally you'll have you should have a guy there,

757
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: versimilar what the Rams did against the Panthers. But winning

758
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: that match up in both the running game and the

759
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 3: passing game is going to be huge because again, if

760
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: you watch the Bears, they don't really like to run,

761
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: and I have a personal relation with the running back coach,

762
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: so I know how he thinks and what he wants

763
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: to do. They want to run in the b gaps.

764
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: They don't want to run outside. They'll start left and

765
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: then they'll try to get to the right B gap.

766
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: They'll start right, they'll try to they just they want

767
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: to run in between like off tackle kind of in

768
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: a way. And so if you you could win the

769
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: as if those d tackles can win those be gaps

770
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: and force those guys to bounce and let everything get

771
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: to them or collapse him inside, I think the Rams

772
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: are gonna be very successful. But the be gaps are

773
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: the game.

774
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: The Packers sending their linebackers was that to take away

775
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, because they did a good job limited.

776
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: Number the number seven for the Packers. He shot the

777
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: big gap every playoff. It seemed like like he was

778
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: just They try to do some weird like sprint and

779
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: draw and he just there and take everybody out.

780
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: I like green dog. I mean, I think I would

781
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: bet the Rams do it. If it's passed, keep going

782
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. If he peels off, you got him,

783
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But it just puts pressure

784
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: on uh, the offense, and it forces them to have

785
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 4: to count you and you know, for for past uh blocking.

786
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: So every now and then you can catch them slipping.

787
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with you.

788
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: Swift is a he's he's he's aptly named. Swift is

789
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: a great name for a guy that runs just like that.

790
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: Another dude that could start over here and finish way

791
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: over there and score with the ball.

792
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Former Stafford teammate. If I'm not mistaken, Let's save Caleb

793
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: for last. Do you want to you want to talk

794
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: rams secondary, you want to talk Colston Lovlin their tight end?

795
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: Well, having to talk tackling in the open field. Okay, right,

796
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: you talked about Swift. Let's go back to Week four

797
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: last year. He broke a long run, started on the right,

798
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: broke left, went up the middle, missed a couple of

799
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 3: tackles in that one. Dj Moore is another guy that's

800
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: built like a running back that you have to tackle

801
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: in space. I think Luther Burden is a very elusive guy,

802
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: right that you have to tackle. Yeah, those like you

803
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: have to eliminate what they do best.

804
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: And did you just say yards after catch tons of

805
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: yak tons?

806
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: I thought that was a last name.

807
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: He is a Ben Johnson benefit year.

808
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: He is alms st Brown for the Chicago Bears. They'll

809
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: throw a three yard route, He'll stop, cut back, get

810
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: back like it's insane what.

811
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: He can do you know what you said about DeVante Adams.

812
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Is there an element of that with Quentin Lake meaning

813
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: knocking one game of rust off after.

814
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yes, oh yes, I thought. I mean

815
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: that interception that he tipped that Kobe Durant should be like,

816
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: give me. He should have a Rolex in his locker

817
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: right now because of that. I think that's an interception. Yes,

818
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: If Quinn Lake had played the week before, I think

819
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: his eyes are where they need to be. And so

820
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: I do believe that whoever's in the B gap and

821
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: then in the passing game, quin Lake is gonna have

822
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: to have a huge day.

823
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: Again, it's just shallows crossers open. Even on the game

824
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: winning play, that's a drop. Yeah, it was open. No

825
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: Kella Witherspoon the rest of the way. So you're looking

826
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: at what Forbes and Durrance on the outside, maybe some

827
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: d will who's been a healthy scratch McCreary's. McCreary's been

828
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: getting more any thoughts there.

829
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Look, it is what it is.

830
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: You're going to have to put max pressure on this

831
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: quarterback and every other quarterback you face. This is leaving

832
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: Arizona and what was said on the field exactly what

833
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: happened here is exactly what we're going to see from

834
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: here on out. They're coming after those corners. They're coming

835
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: after the Rams in coverage. If you don't get there,

836
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: there could be problems. If the quarterback break breaks contained,

837
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: there could be problems.

838
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.

839
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 4: I'm with you on the tackling. I'm staying with your guy,

840
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: making sure you keep him in front. Even if he

841
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: catches it, drop him right there, live to fight another down.

842
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: The one thing you can't do is give up the

843
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: big play. So I think everyone understands the assignment this

844
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: week and who and what the Rams are on defense.

845
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Eleven explosive passing plays in Chicago's second half comeback this week.

846
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: Again, I will tell you this. This is gonna sound crazy,

847
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: but I would rather Caleb beat me from the pocket

848
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: than to break outside of it. I think containing him

849
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: and making sure he doesn't get outside the pocket is

850
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: going to be very important. And I think the reason

851
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: being is these dudes whatever forever, whatever reason, they know

852
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: how to get into their scramble drill oh there they

853
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: find holes in the defense, and he's like, he's crazy

854
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: enough to throw some of these throws like the one

855
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: he threw to DJ Moore in the back of the

856
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: end zone. I forget who they're playing. He's almost out

857
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: of bounds and he just fires it back into the

858
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: end zone and DJ Moore catches it. So you just

859
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: have to know that he's I don't want to say reckless,

860
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: but he will throw. He's a gunslinger like he'll throw

861
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 3: the ball.

862
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: He's stretching the bounds of this game, edge of the envelope.

863
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean profiling him. He doesn't complete a high percentage

864
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: to either team. What I mean is he's got a

865
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: bunch of open targets and a very low completion percentage.

866
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: But he also doesn't throw picks. He hangs onto the

867
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: football forever, wait too long, too long. But that's some

868
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: of their best magic too. I would say yes, And

869
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: yet he's halved his sack rate. So there's just this

870
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: beautiful paradox at quarterback with this second year Heisman Trophy

871
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: running the quarterback.

872
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: So I would say this, I'm with you. I'd rather

873
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: him beat me from the pocket. And if he does

874
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: break contain, it can't be on his terms. If I

875
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: flush him out, that's one thing. If I got him

876
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: running for his life with a guy in hot pursuit. Great,

877
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: he may throw it to you, but it can't be

878
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: on his terms where he finds the dead spot and

879
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: then picks up another two to three seconds. For those

880
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: good and one receivers, he has to find the open

881
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: spot because that's how they lose.

882
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's hard to find on schedule because they move

883
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: his spot so effectively with the keeper game, with the

884
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: half rolls, and then he's very elusive once he starts

885
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: playing his own game like he's always been.

886
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: On third down, you just know that if it's third

887
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 3: and eight he's looking to scramble first, he'll get back there.

888
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: He'll set up, but you can tell by how quickly

889
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: he decides to take off and find holes in the

890
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: pocket to get out. Defensively, I look, Cam Curl Kitchens.

891
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: Whoever's covering Loveland is going to have to have a day.

892
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: Loveland's interesting. They got they got some raised eyebrows when

893
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: they took him at ten over over tireer warn Yeah,

894
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: but he's proved them right. But the Rams have defended

895
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: I will say this, the Rams have defended tight ends

896
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: very well this season on a raw basis, on a

897
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: per target basis, and that's while playing in the NFC West,

898
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: which has the best tight ends walking the planet.

899
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: So what do you count County McBride, who else? Kittle,

900
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: who else? Barner's pretty good, Barner's pretty good. Yeah, Yeah,

901
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: you've done a really good job keeping on those guys.

902
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: Goddard is a problem, Well, you played Warren too. The

903
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: RAMS schedule was tight end laden. Is my point. Your

904
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: prowess against tight ends, I think is more proven than

905
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: your ability to shut down outside receivers.

906
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: Point, you're getting good practice against some good tight ends,

907
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 4: so game day should be easier.

908
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Real talk, Okay, since since week twelve, it's been a

909
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: pedestrian defense this last month, especially if you take out

910
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: the Arizona wins, and Arizona is not a good offense.

911
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: They're a one dimensional, not a good offense. If defense

912
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: wins championships, has this defense been championship worthy? Probably not.

913
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: What makes you believe that they can recapture some of

914
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: their form from the front end of the season when

915
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: they were the best scoring defense in the league. I'm

916
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: not saying they need to get all the way back there,

917
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: but how do they put three good game plans and

918
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: executions together so that this team can be championship worthy

919
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: to me.

920
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 4: I think it's this. It's going to come down to

921
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: how many times they take the ball away. You're going

922
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: to have to create some turnovers.

923
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: Period.

924
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: The longer the offense stays out there, the longer they

925
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: have opportunities to pick on you because you know, pass rushes,

926
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: they don't always get there. How many passes do you

927
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 4: think a defense faces in a season?

928
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: Right?

929
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: And you put a guy in the Pro Bowl that

930
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: gets twelve sacks, you know, so it's yea frequent. You

931
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: don't get there a lot. So I think you're going

932
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: to have to take the ball away and limit possessions

933
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: and hope that Matthew Stafford in the offense pile on

934
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: the points.

935
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: To make it one dimensional.

936
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: I'm counting. Then it feeds into what I'm counting fourth

937
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: down stops because they got them last two week. Yeah,

938
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: and when you look at Caleb, I think you threw

939
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: two picks last week on fourth down. Packer's lost yardage

940
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: on those interceptions, right, Like, if those are incompletions, it's

941
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: better for them selfish. So this team is going to

942
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: just like Carolina is going to go for a lot

943
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: of fourth downs. Yeah, you got to bow up and

944
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: you got to get footballs back on fourth Yeah, I think.

945
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: I think in this situation, your best defense is gonna

946
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: be your offense, and it's gonna be your offense putting

947
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: pressure on the other offense to have to go and

948
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: go for fourth downs and your defense bowing up in

949
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: those situations. When you look at the landscape of the playoffs,

950
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: it's it's.

951
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: Very rarely.

952
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: There's only I think one or two teams that you're

953
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: saying their defense is what leads the team. I want

954
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: to say that's Denver for three or four. Now, so Seattle, Denver, Houston,

955
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: and then I say New England. Yeah, okay, New England

956
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: because yeah they do. But their defense is what won

957
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 3: that game against the Chargers, right and so. But the

958
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: other side is all offense. Like your offense if you're

959
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: the Niners, the offense has to put up points and

960
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: you have to do certain things. I think with the

961
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: rams h you're better suited than all these teams. I

962
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: think you're a more complete team. But your offense, your

963
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 3: offensive lad team. You have to score points. It can't

964
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: be three to six. If it's a three to six

965
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: ball game or a three to three ball game going

966
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: in a halftime that's not going to be. That's that

967
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: doesn't build for what you need to happen, right, and

968
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: it needs to be. You have to be in the

969
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: twenties or seventeen a half and force those guys say

970
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: we have to score points. And when you have to

971
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: score points, now you're going to take more chances. Pass

972
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: rush gets there, more guys get out, and you get

973
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 3: a chance to get.

974
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: To the quarter positions. You have to force all the

975
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: chips and real quick. Did he say selfish on a takeaway? Sure? Yes,

976
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: Now you want people to drop. No, I don't.

977
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: I don't want people to I'm just saying that that

978
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: is a very selfish thing to do, and I love it.

979
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: Don't get your money, but I understand you said you

980
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: lost this game. You're getting to pick forty.

981
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: Yards are doing if you are privileged enough to earn

982
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: a multi possession of advantage in Chicago? And I think

983
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, right. Get the game script to

984
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that portion where your defense can can start to exercise

985
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: conflex a little bit. That's where the game starts against

986
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Because no two score lead has been

987
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: safe for these Los Angeles Rams, and Chicago has done

988
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: things that, my goodness, you would not believe when they've

989
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: been down double digits and especially late. And so let's

990
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: just put it down on record here on this show.

991
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: I think the Rams will have a good lead on

992
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Sunday night, and that's where the game begins. Can you

993
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: protect it? Can you salt it away?

994
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: If you look at Carolina, it was you had a

995
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: great lead against Carolina and you you were doing some

996
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: really good things and then they score and that it

997
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: was fourteen to seven, and it's like okay, and then

998
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: it kind of goes back and forth and then you

999
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: you start to move a little bit and all of

1000
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's seventeen seven and then you fell on

1001
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: a FOURD down they got. So you know, like you

1002
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: have to go put up points. Yeah, right, And it's

1003
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: just it's one of those situations like, but I you

1004
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: have more money on the offensive side, more resources are

1005
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: allocated on the offensive side, and that's what you wanted

1006
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: this roster to be. It's not it's not it's not

1007
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: all done, you know what I mean, Like that's what

1008
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: you wanted, and then you put you allocate young pieces

1009
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: and resources to the defense there. Yeah, and so you're

1010
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: saying I want the pressure. If I'm shying, I want

1011
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: the pressure on me me call them plays.

1012
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: I like me.

1013
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love me right right, I do too. I

1014
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: love how like this offense is functioning.

1015
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: Like you said, all the money's over there, great it

1016
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: should be scoring and scoring thirty four points on the

1017
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: road does not shock me because that's how good you

1018
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: should be with the pieces you have. But then I

1019
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: think every team, no matter how it's constructed, has an identity.

1020
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: And we started the show saying my favorite drives were

1021
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: the ones where they were coming from behind. This is

1022
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: the deal, and Matthew Stafford and DeVante Adams, I'm glad

1023
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: they put that out there. Let's go snatch hearts. Love that,

1024
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: But the problem is you have to be in position

1025
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: to go snatch your heart. Can you snatch your heart

1026
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: with a twenty one point lead? I hope, So let's

1027
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: let's let's do that.

1028
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: And you're playing some heart snatchers too. Chicago beat Green

1029
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: Bay twice in the last month. Never took a snap

1030
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: with the lead.

1031
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, absolutely nuts.

1032
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, so that's right where they want to do.

1033
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: No one wants to be in a trailing position, but

1034
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: you better believe that they're going to believe if they

1035
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: do find themselves down in the fourth.

1036
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: Well, big picture speaking, when people ask why is the

1037
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: NFL so popular, it's because of that.

1038
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: It is.

1039
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: It is completely unpredictable. It will break your heart, give

1040
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: you a heart attack, and make you smile, all in

1041
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: the same thirty seconds.

1042
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: I will say this too. The reason why the Rams

1043
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: are in Chicago this weekend and not at Sofi Stadium,

1044
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: it's because of the kicking game. Brandon McManus missed two

1045
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: field goals and an extra point. The Packers left seven

1046
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: points out there. Without those mistakes in the kicking game,

1047
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: and without Santo's hitting a fifty one yarder, the Bear's

1048
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: comeback is not possible. So we probably should devote a

1049
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: portion of this show to the kicking game. And DeMarco

1050
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: is rubbing his eyes.

1051
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm well the kicking two guys, two guys. So

1052
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: we talked about Pooka. I think we said his name

1053
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: the most outside of Stafford and then everyone else, all

1054
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: the stars on the team. You were missing Winnington and

1055
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: you were missing Dolac. Right, yep, those are two star

1056
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 4: wars on your punt team and one got blocked. I

1057
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: could be mad at Tanner Ingle. It's hard to the

1058
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: guy gives you everything he's got. And look, you saw that.

1059
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: You called it out during the game when they overload

1060
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: you and leave the gunner by himself.

1061
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1062
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: You have to practice that exactly right? What a what

1063
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 3: a scheme by Carolina? They saw something and they knew

1064
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 3: that the Rams were gonna make a call where they're

1065
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: gonna slide everyone over and they're gonna put Isaiah Sammons,

1066
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: who I think we spoke about a little bit ago

1067
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: about a guy that you know safety, Yes, I mean

1068
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: six four on five nine draft pick. Yeah, right, that's

1069
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: one on one like even if you want him to block, like,

1070
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: there's certain times genetics comes into play you can't.

1071
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: With your technique.

1072
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: And that's where that's where he messed up. He left

1073
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: too quickly.

1074
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: It might have been for the best because instead of

1075
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: a full field drive, that choose up a ton of clock.

1076
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: If you're gonna fall behind, at least get back in

1077
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: Stafford's hand with time. Devin du Vernet is a problem,

1078
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: though he is a problem. Big return two big returns

1079
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: against Green Bay to set them up for success. Feel

1080
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: good about Harrison MeVis and the and that operation. Yes

1081
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: from the zoo.

1082
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Any that goes down there and get over there with you,

1083
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm just he's got to do it here, and he's

1084
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: doing it. Yes. Yes.

1085
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: I also want to talk about penalties because the Rams

1086
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: have been privileged to be the least penalized team in

1087
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: the league for several seasons under Sean mcvayh, including this one.

1088
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: I can trast the two games against Carolina thanks saving weekend,

1089
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: there's only one penalty for five yards. It was the

1090
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: delay of game before the strip sack last week nine

1091
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: for eighty three and the run of play Acts of Commission.

1092
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: Penalties don't bother me as much like I'm not mad

1093
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: at the hit on the sideline.

1094
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 4: No, that's not a penalty that should not have been

1095
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: opponent about.

1096
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: Come on, But the pre snap stuff these last couple

1097
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: of games has not looked like Rams football, and the

1098
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: after the whistle stuff it needs to be eliminated too,

1099
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: because it would be a shame to cost yourself an

1100
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: opportunity to play for an NFC champ and ship or

1101
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl because of a penalty flag.

1102
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: Again, I think those are those are lessons that are

1103
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: gonna be learned that We're probably spoken about this week,

1104
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: right if you're des one Johnson like, hey, look, we

1105
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: love your energy, love you love you out there driving

1106
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: guys into the ground. But once it whistle blows, it's

1107
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 3: a controlled ingression. You let it out between the whistle,

1108
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: then once it blows, you bring it back in.

1109
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: You have to do that.

1110
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: I think on some of the other stuff is just

1111
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: it's a loud you're hearing you think you hear certain things,

1112
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: like I can only can remember playing in Washington in

1113
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: college and trying to read the lips of the quarterback

1114
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: who's screaming at the top of his lungs, and you

1115
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: hear nothing. You hear nothing. And that's how loud it

1116
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: was in Carolina. I can't say it was as loud

1117
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: as Washington, but it was loud enough where Stafford is

1118
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: getting this long drawn out play called to everybody, and

1119
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: you saw guys like am I supposed to be here?

1120
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: Like no, you're on the ball, like So that means

1121
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: everyone couldn't hear it, and that's that comes to the

1122
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: crowd noise, and that's part of playing on the road.

1123
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: So you got to be able to fix that and understand,

1124
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: and haven't I and and and the biggest thing is

1125
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: the quarterback has an idea what the play caller wants

1126
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 3: to call because of the down and distance.

1127
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1128
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: I remember a coach of mine and Jackson to say,

1129
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: everyone has to have that, right. You all have to

1130
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 3: understand what the play caller wants to call and these

1131
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: down and distance. So if we are in a situation

1132
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: we can't hear the quarterback, but you can see and hear,

1133
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: like you can mimic some of the like Okay, I

1134
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: know this player thinking, yeah, we're all in the same

1135
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: and it just didn't seem like that in Carolina. In

1136
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: some situations, if a.

1137
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: Holding call you cannot understand, like if you're you hook

1138
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: a guy, so be it. But lining up off size

1139
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: as a receiver, that isn't no no, that is an

1140
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: absolute no no.

1141
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: The balls right there. I mean, you're expected to know

1142
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: what you're doing about.

1143
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 4: He was off sized by a lot, a lot a lot.

1144
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: You're you're on the Carol never mind anyway. And the

1145
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: Davante false start something that was wrong with his helmet.

1146
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: That was just a miss cue. You probably won't see

1147
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: that again. I don't remember the other six penalties, uh

1148
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: or I don't need to go.

1149
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: Through them all. I'm just thinking, Yeah, there's one past

1150
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: interference in the back of the end zone, and there

1151
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: were there were acts of competition. Well I'm not gonna.

1152
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: Those are the ones, yeah, but just the ones that

1153
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: put you behind the chains. You can't have the fixable stuff.

1154
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: You can't have uh, playing football stuff. Things happen and

1155
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: sometimes you get penalized. But the stuff that you can

1156
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: control to take no skill, that kind of stuff. You

1157
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: gotta know where to line up and that stuff.

1158
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, any soapbox moments or opportunities before he

1159
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: closes out.

1160
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: Whoever the fan is that sits in front of us,

1161
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, are you're getting Are you gonna? Are

1162
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: you gonna talk to her? Are gonna? You gotta bring

1163
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: it up?

1164
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: I thought you were hiring private security this.

1165
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Oh man, listen, DeMarco, you have no idea. There's a guy.

1166
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: Oh I got an earful down on the field.

1167
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a guy that's right in front of the booth.

1168
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: And for whatever reason, I don't know if it was

1169
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: me or if it was JB or whoever it was.

1170
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: Yes, it was both.

1171
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: He turned around.

1172
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: He paid a lot of money to put his back

1173
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: to the field, the whole line exactly.

1174
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: Bark old game. Yeah, so to whoever you are, can't

1175
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: wait to see you.

1176
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: Uh but no out to Carolina.

1177
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 4: They like you said, you pulled out all the stops

1178
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: and they tried to make it as rough on the

1179
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 4: rams as possible. That was about as one side as

1180
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: it could get as far as being the opponent. But

1181
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: keep in your wits about you when all are losing theirs.

1182
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: That's what this team is about. No matter what the

1183
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: score was, no matter what happened on that sideline, there

1184
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: was complete trust and confidence that whatever unit was on

1185
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: the field was going to take care of business, especially

1186
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: when you gave Matthew Stafford over two minutes to win

1187
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: the football game. Like Nate Lanman said after the game,

1188
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: they were getting ready for two minutes. They knew he

1189
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: was going to score. They were talking about what they

1190
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: were going to do after that. So that is the

1191
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 4: mark of a great team. Like I said, this team

1192
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: is built to be great and to score a lot

1193
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: of points and to sack a lot of quarterbacks.

1194
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: And when that doesn't happen, it doesn't mean the game's over.

1195
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: This team shows a lot of teeth, a lot of fight,

1196
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 4: and regardless of points and stats, that's the stuff that

1197
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: matters to me.

1198
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: In the postseason.

1199
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: There was a real intangible quality to that post game,

1200
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: which was we just want to be together for another week.

1201
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: That I admire about these Los Angeles Rams, head coach, quarterback,

1202
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: star players. They don't want this journey to be over.

1203
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: They verbalize that, and I think that gut check in

1204
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: Carolina brought that to the surface. That they feel like

1205
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: they're in for something special and they're not going to

1206
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: be deterred. That's kind of my theme of the week

1207
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: is this group loves each other, wants to be working

1208
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: together at this facility next week.

1209
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's funny because when you play enough football, you

1210
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: see the turnover, right, And I think as a young player,

1211
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: you really don't understand it that there's going to be

1212
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: a new group and you're going to have to relearn

1213
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 3: each other and do different things and your best friend

1214
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: may not be here or someone that you got really

1215
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: close with me get what things happen. And so to

1216
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: hear that really like gave me goosebumps because it's like

1217
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: it's like they understand how important each year is, right right,

1218
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: Like they understand this team is special because it's this

1219
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: team and all the stuff that they've been through with

1220
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: this team, from the back injuries to the different stuff

1221
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: that's gone on throughout the season. And so it's uh

1222
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: and the stuff that we don't know and the stuff

1223
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: that we yeah, right, the stuff that we don't know.

1224
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 3: And so to me, like that's when you have that

1225
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: mindset and you go and I've talked to like my

1226
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: good you know, family friend TJ.

1227
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: Ward.

1228
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: They talked about that Super Bowl fifty team. They weren't

1229
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: the best offensively, but they knew that they didn't want

1230
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 3: this ride to end because it was Peyton's last ride,

1231
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: and that's what everyone was all in. We were dugging

1232
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: because it was peyton last ride, right, and they had

1233
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: a common goal.

1234
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: To hear that it reminds me of that, or like

1235
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: let's get Aaron Donald won, yes, Or let's put Tyler

1236
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: Higbe and Robert Woods on our T shirt? Yeah under

1237
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: our paths, Like just those kind of sentiments. I feel

1238
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: like there are overtones of that. And it's not just

1239
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: the players that turn over. It's the coaches too. One

1240
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: thing that I just wanted to complain about or suggest

1241
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: that we fix is it just doesn't sit well with

1242
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: me that three key coaches on this staff have to

1243
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: conduct zoom interviews in the middle of one of the

1244
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: most important for sfessional weeks of their life. Why can't

1245
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: we arrange the NFL schedule such that the coaching cycle

1246
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: takes place outside of the most important part of the

1247
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: NFL season, the playoffs.

1248
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: Because man, the Giants has paid Jim Harbaugh one hundred

1249
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 3: million dollars.

1250
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: We push free agency off into the spring, and we

1251
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: even have a two day legal tampering period, Like there's

1252
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: room in the calendar. Teams can wait another week or

1253
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: month if necessary, they.

1254
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: Could, they can. I just think that's gonna be some

1255
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: of the competition Committee's gonna go. But this is what's

1256
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: been going on forever.

1257
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: Now that I was with you, But now that I

1258
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: think about it, if I'm getting ready to hire you

1259
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 4: as a head coach, I think I want to interview

1260
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: you right now to see how your stress level is.

1261
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: Did you hear did you hear?

1262
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1263
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: See maybe?

1264
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: But like yeah, it cuts both ways. I want the

1265
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: RAMS assistant coaches to put their best foot forward and

1266
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: have the time in bandwidth to make an impression and

1267
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: go get those head coaching opportunities.

1268
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: Three coaches that are up for Like, that's insane, that's

1269
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 3: more coaches. Imagine again, good luck to all of those guys.

1270
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: Imagine if all three get head coaching jobs, you're gonna

1271
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: have to have a whole new staff right again. And

1272
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: so I understand that that's a lot of it is

1273
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: a good thing, but it does take away from everyone

1274
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: putting And I think that's more on the head coach

1275
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: making sure that he has resources for his DC, his

1276
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: OC and all the guys that are helping to empower

1277
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: other guys to help, right, because that's what's gonna have

1278
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: to happen. Because I can't tell you can't interview for

1279
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: this job, like I.

1280
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: Can't block, They're gonna take it in stride. I have

1281
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: confidence in all those individuals individually and collectively to make

1282
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: the most out of this week.

1283
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: I just.

1284
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: It bothers me that we're distracting from the playoff product

1285
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: with all these ancillary headlines and topics and pursuits when

1286
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: there's some real nice real estate in February and early

1287
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: March where he could be having a lot of these conversations.

1288
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think you have to thing of this too, right,

1289
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: Most of these teams are in the offseason, they're getting

1290
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: their draft board. Like I heard James glads On talk

1291
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: about going to Jacksonville last year and how he prepared

1292
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 3: for the Rams draft board and then how he gets

1293
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: his job and he has to flip over and learn

1294
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 3: his team, and so yeah, it is. It's this part

1295
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: of the game. And I love this part of the

1296
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: game because I just hope we keep going and you

1297
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: just have to keep waiting and prolonging until you get

1298
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: a head coach and job.

1299
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: Dress warmly. How's the packing going? So far? So good?

1300
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 4: If you come down to me and I'm not there,

1301
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 4: send the paramedics just to make sure. If you see

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Speaker 4: like smoke, it may be down there with a campfire.

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Speaker 2: Who knows. Yeah, but you know what, forget about it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be cold. It is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Let's go play football. Let's go just like these things. Coaches,

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00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 4: can I run this by you? Whatever McVay wears I wear,

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00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: you're crazy. I will not outdress the head coach. How

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00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: about that?

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Speaker 3: You're crazy?

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Speaker 1: I mean it took him until you're what age thirty eight?

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Speaker 2: I know I will not outdress the coach.

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Speaker 1: How about Davante Adam saying, I've never worn sleeves in

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Speaker 1: my career.

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Speaker 3: I don't plan to this week. He won't wear sleeves.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that, I look at it.

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00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: I love the cold. I think it's I didn't wear

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: sleeves in the cold, but I had everything else on.

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00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: And that's what you're gonna do. But to kind of

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00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: send us off. I think this game is less to do.

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Speaker 3: I said this in our text our text thread is

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: less to do about the Bears, and it's always about

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: the Rams. If you execute what you're doing, I don't

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Speaker 3: think there's a team in the NFL that could beat them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I truly believe that if you're looking around like

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: they just if they execute and do what they're supposed

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Speaker 3: to do. Like you said, no control the things you

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00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: can control, catch the ball when you're open, no fall stars,

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00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: no pre snap penalties, things like that. You'll just move

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00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: up and down the field on any and everybody.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way the players and coaches do.

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Speaker 1: I want to be right back here next week working

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Speaker 1: with you guys. For MJD and DeMarco far I'm JB

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Speaker 1: long enjoyed this weekend. Everyone the divisional round the Rams

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Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears sub zero at Soldier Field. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us for another diition of between

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Speaker 1: the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota dealers,