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Speaker 3: next week as usual. Hi, I'm Sandra Champlain. For over
Speaker 3: twenty five years, I've been on a journey to prove
Speaker 3: the existence of life after death. On each episode, we'll
Speaker 3: discuss the reasons we now know that our loved ones
Speaker 3: have so y physical death and so will we Welcome
Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. Today, I'd like you to
Speaker 3: meet Annette Marinaccio, who had some extraordinary experiences that led
Speaker 3: her into researching the afterlife. They always seem to stem
Speaker 3: from something happening, and for Annette it was the death
Speaker 3: of her mother in law. She's the author of the
Speaker 3: book your sole focus. You believe in the afterlife, don't you.
Speaker 3: I just love that subtitle and thought we need to
Speaker 3: hear from Annette. Annette, Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Sandra, thank you so much for
Speaker 4: having me here. I'm very excited to be here.
Speaker 3: Well, we are just as excited to have you with us. Annette,
Speaker 3: you know your story better than anyone. If you wouldn't
Speaker 3: mind sharing with us about who you are, I know
Speaker 3: you have some thoughts about grief and tell us about
Speaker 3: the book you take the floor.
Speaker 4: I live in New York and my scipline my profession
Speaker 4: is a CPA and a healthcare executive, and I absolutely
Speaker 4: love what I do work and career wise, it is
Speaker 4: not a career that one would think would intersect with
Speaker 4: sort of the spiritual side of things. That makes my book,
Speaker 4: I think, all the more interesting. But what happened to
Speaker 4: me is over a decade ago, after my mother in
Speaker 4: law died, she was intent on proving to me that
Speaker 4: there is an afterlife. And when she first started sending
Speaker 4: those kinds of signs and synchronicities, I was a little
Speaker 4: bit curious, like, what is.
Speaker 5: Going on here?
Speaker 4: They were actually coming a little bit more through my daughter,
Speaker 4: who was thirteen at the time and very earnestly telling
Speaker 4: me about, you know, dreams and things like that, and
Speaker 4: I was just curious.
Speaker 5: I had not really ever thought about the afterlife before.
Speaker 4: And I was starting to tell a lot of my
Speaker 4: friends and family about some of the happenings that were
Speaker 4: curring after my mother in law died. And one of
Speaker 4: my very good friends, who I had known for ten years,
Speaker 4: but I guess we had never spoken about the afterlife.
Speaker 5: She in a very matter of fact.
Speaker 4: Way, she was like, well, Annette, you believe in the afterlife,
Speaker 4: don't you, which is the subtitle of my book.
Speaker 5: And I was just like, I don't know, do you?
Speaker 4: And she was like, of course there was an afterlife,
Speaker 4: and so that sort of opened my eyes to it
Speaker 4: a little bit. I was just like, h let me
Speaker 4: really try and understand this a little bit more.
Speaker 3: And I just asked the quick question, did your mother
Speaker 3: in law say she wanted to get through to you
Speaker 3: before she passed or was it after that you started
Speaker 3: getting the signs absolutely after.
Speaker 5: I had no discussion prior to her passing about the
Speaker 5: afterlife at all.
Speaker 3: Some people they do say this is a sign I'm
Speaker 3: going to give you, or this is the code word.
Speaker 3: Can you share with us some of the signs that
Speaker 3: you guys did get. That kind of kind of opened
Speaker 3: your eyes to the something to this. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the first sign that my daughter received was a
Speaker 4: tangible sign.
Speaker 5: It was physical. It was pomp poms. And I thought
Speaker 5: to myself, well, maybe my daughter's making.
Speaker 4: This up and this is some type of a coping mechanism.
Speaker 4: But she in her art class had she told me
Speaker 4: pomp poms that just appeared on her desk. Nobody put
Speaker 4: them there, nobody was around, and they were within less
Speaker 4: than a week of us burying my mother in law.
Speaker 4: And they were two pomp poms, the exact same lavender
Speaker 4: and ivory colors of the balloons we let go at
Speaker 4: the gravesite. And so when my daughter was just earnestly
Speaker 4: telling me this story, and we really had not discussed
Speaker 4: death or the afterlife in my family, but she was
Speaker 4: earnestly saying, can you believe this?
Speaker 5: I wonder how these pompoms appeared? And I was just
Speaker 5: like looking at her like could this be real?
Speaker 4: Like what's going on? And so so I was telling
Speaker 4: everybody the pomp Pom story. Really and that's when my
Speaker 4: girlfriend of ten years was like, you believe in the afterlife.
Speaker 5: Don't you?
Speaker 4: And so what happened is a series of synchronicities. But
Speaker 4: I think more importantly than that, I think my mother
Speaker 4: in law and many of my deceased relatives at that
Speaker 4: point started very methodically proving to me, showing to me
Speaker 4: that there is an afterlife.
Speaker 5: So I had not really thought about.
Speaker 4: It before, and I think they knew with my kind
Speaker 4: of accounting brain, you know, I needed to be walked
Speaker 4: through it. I needed to digest everything, and I wasn't
Speaker 4: all of a sudden going to.
Speaker 5: Be like, oh, of course, you know.
Speaker 4: So they really were very methodical about it, which I
Speaker 4: of course appreciated. What I'll tell you the thing that
Speaker 4: happened for me and I for a lot of people,
Speaker 4: they can sometimes trace how they started to understand about
Speaker 4: the afterlife to one specific event. I can certainly do that,
Speaker 4: because what happened was when I told my friends of
Speaker 4: ten years the Pompom story and she said, well, you
Speaker 4: believe in the afterlife, don't you. She started telling me
Speaker 4: that she frequented a medium, Josephine, who was a local medium.
Speaker 4: But as synchronicity and my deceased relatives would have it
Speaker 4: that later that week, we went out, my husband, my son,
Speaker 4: and my recently widowed father in law went out to
Speaker 4: a local restaurant on our main street in town, and
Speaker 4: while we were dining, we were placed at a table
Speaker 4: with a very large window, and in that window was
Speaker 4: a very large poster and it said dinner and medium
Speaker 4: show with Josephine, the medium, who she just my girlfriend
Speaker 4: just told me about. So I was like, well, that's
Speaker 4: sort of coincidental. It was, you know, maybe in the
Speaker 4: upcoming months. But I went home and I said to
Speaker 4: my girlfriend do you want and another girlfriend too, do
Speaker 4: you want to go to this show? And she was
Speaker 4: like absolutely. I made the reservations Annette, party of three,
Speaker 4: no other information, not for any reason, just because, you know,
Speaker 4: and I sort of viewed it as some type of
Speaker 4: magic show.
Speaker 5: I was like, right, go see a magic show. Entertainment, entertainment.
Speaker 4: As that day came upon us and the three of
Speaker 4: us went there, the medium Josephine came out and I
Speaker 4: was thinking, oh, she looks so nice to be a fraud,
Speaker 4: I don't know. We all had our dinner and then
Speaker 4: she the first she related to the first you know person,
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, how interesting. They're probably planted here and
Speaker 4: they're all crying and relating to this stri she probably
Speaker 4: knows them. And then she came right over to me
Speaker 4: and she said to me, she came right over to
Speaker 4: our table, and she said, I have a woman here
Speaker 4: named Lucille.
Speaker 5: Lucille is my mother's mother in law's name, so it's
Speaker 5: pretty specific. And I was like frozen, could not take
Speaker 5: the microphone.
Speaker 4: My girlfriend's kicking me under the table and she is
Speaker 4: going on about Lucille. She's got dark hair, which my
Speaker 4: mother will basically, so she was describing my mother in
Speaker 4: law and she's like, I think it's for someone at
Speaker 4: this table.
Speaker 5: And I froze. I could not take the microphone.
Speaker 4: So someone at the table next door us said, well,
Speaker 4: my name's Elizabeth, and they gave Elizabeth the microphone, and
Speaker 4: then my mother in law, through this medium, started like
Speaker 4: speaking about my life. Oh, I see that you're going
Speaker 4: to Italy in a couple of months, which I had
Speaker 4: booked Italy in a couple of months. And Elizabeth was like, no,
Speaker 4: I came from Florida, you know.
Speaker 5: So because because it was for.
Speaker 4: Elizabeth, it was for me, but I was frozen anyway.
Speaker 4: So the medium eventually sort of retreated back and read
Speaker 4: a couple of more people, and they were all sort
Speaker 4: of crying and relating to the stories. But my mother
Speaker 4: in law was very intent. She came back again. So
Speaker 4: the medium came out back over and said this woman,
Speaker 4: Lucille is here. And so this time I had unfrozen
Speaker 4: myself and raised my hand, and then she said.
Speaker 5: The line that was just sealed the deal for me.
Speaker 5: She said, Lucille is asking how Rita is. Rita's still here? Right?
Speaker 5: Rita is my mother's name, And my mother and my mother.
Speaker 4: In law were both diagnosed with cancer within a week
Speaker 4: of each other. And when they were both and my
Speaker 4: mother is still here, she made it through my mother
Speaker 4: in law soccumb to it. But as they were both
Speaker 4: going through their surgeries, their chemo, their radiation, each one
Speaker 4: would always ask us how the other one was, how's Lucille,
Speaker 4: How's Rita?
Speaker 5: How's Lucille? How's Rita?
Speaker 4: So when this medium said how's Rita. She's still here,
Speaker 4: isn't she? I was like, Oh my goodness, there's just
Speaker 4: no way. There's just no way. And then she also had,
Speaker 4: you know, additional evidential information that nobody could have known,
Speaker 4: and that was sort of enough to let me say,
Speaker 4: all right, I'll take the reins here. I'm going to
Speaker 4: take the there's something to this that I need to understand.
Speaker 4: And so that's what I trace it back to. Yes,
Speaker 4: there were a lot of things leading up to me
Speaker 4: being open to it at that point, including the conversation
Speaker 4: the pom poms and the conversation with my girlfriend prior,
Speaker 4: but that was the thing that I always say, like
Speaker 4: tripped the meter for me. It was like, Okay, this
Speaker 4: is real. I have to understand this. Yeah, So that
Speaker 4: was that was the thing that did it for me,
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of people can actually trace
Speaker 4: it back to a particular thing. I want to speak
Speaker 4: a little bit about grief, because you had brought that up,
Speaker 4: and not all love stories in the book, but grief
Speaker 4: is in the book too. What I feel about grief
Speaker 4: is I have what I think is an interesting perspective
Speaker 4: on grief.
Speaker 5: I think that grief always always pertains to us wanting
Speaker 5: something that passed, not passed like crossover, but like crossed over.
Speaker 4: But anything in the past. And the example I like
Speaker 4: to give is. I have two children there in their
Speaker 4: late twenties, mid to late twenties, and when they were two, three,
Speaker 4: four five, I mean, they were those little cutie banuti's
Speaker 4: I just you know, could like any little child. You're
Speaker 4: just oh, they're so cute. And they don't remember those times.
Speaker 4: I remember those times. My husband remembers those times. My
Speaker 4: parents remember those times. I think those times were for me.
Speaker 4: I don't think they were for them because I remember them.
Speaker 4: I can watch a whole movie and be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I remember that. My kids are like it's a little
Speaker 4: foreign to them, so to me. I could actually get
Speaker 4: lost in the grief of the fact that I will
Speaker 4: never have that again. I will never have that again.
Speaker 4: I would love to have those times again, they will
Speaker 4: not be there. The only thing that pulls me out
Speaker 4: of that grief is the fact that I and speak
Speaker 4: to them now in their twenties, in the mid twenties.
Speaker 4: That pulls me through the grief. But that feeling of
Speaker 4: grief is as real as real gets. And my kids
Speaker 4: are still alive, thank goodness. When somebody loses someone, I
Speaker 4: think they feel that same intense grief, but there's nothing
Speaker 4: to pull them out. It's very difficult to come out
Speaker 4: the other side because they're not going to be able
Speaker 4: to see and speak and hug and smile at and
Speaker 4: see the smile of their deceased love one.
Speaker 5: There's just the grief is the same, but there's nothing
Speaker 5: to pull them through.
Speaker 3: Annette, we need to take a quick break, but when
Speaker 3: we come back, you can continue sharing about grief. It's
Speaker 3: so important, I think to all of us not only
Speaker 3: believing in the afterlife, but understanding grief. We're all going
Speaker 3: to go through it, so let's take a break. You're
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and we are with Annette Marnaccio, who wrote the book
Speaker 3: with a great title Your sole focus. You believe in
Speaker 3: the afterlife, don't you, Anette. You're just talking about how
Speaker 3: grief is different if somebody's still alive versus if they're not.
Speaker 3: Could you talk more about that.
Speaker 4: Grief is the same, but there's nothing to pull them through.
Speaker 4: And once you really are convinced, I like to say,
Speaker 4: like people say, oh, you believe, it's I think it's
Speaker 4: more than believing in my case, and people say, well,
Speaker 4: you can't know.
Speaker 5: Of course I can't know.
Speaker 4: I'm here on earth, but I'm convinced that our de
Speaker 4: ceased loved ones live on and they're really right around
Speaker 4: the corner. I mean, they're here very close, and that
Speaker 4: is very helpful. It doesn't allow you the same feeling
Speaker 4: you would have knowing you would be able to sort
Speaker 4: of chat with them one on one tomorrow, but they
Speaker 4: are right here and they're watching over you. I like
Speaker 4: to get this analogy, and some people have sort of
Speaker 4: latched onto this.
Speaker 5: This is how I correlate a tangible view of the
Speaker 5: other side.
Speaker 4: If you were to walk out of your front door
Speaker 4: one morning and it had snowed that morning, and you just,
Speaker 4: you know, open your door and you're standing on the porch,
Speaker 4: and it's absolutely beautiful. Nothing has walked in the snow yet,
Speaker 4: nobody has walked in the snow. It's just a pristine
Speaker 4: white snow. As far as you can see. Your mailbox
Speaker 4: is covered, the trees are covered, it's glistening. It's just serene, white, peaceful,
Speaker 4: snowy day. And then if you were to just picture
Speaker 4: right outside of your view a clear acrylic sphere over
Speaker 4: your entire thing, you can see over that entire world
Speaker 4: for you. Your loved ones are right on the outside of
Speaker 4: that clear acrylic sphere.
Speaker 5: It's like you're in a snow globe and they see everything.
Speaker 5: But because of Einstein's theory of relativity, you can only
Speaker 5: see what you can relate to. So you can only
Speaker 5: see up to that clear sphere, and you can't see
Speaker 5: the next energy level or that other dimension they can see,
Speaker 5: you can't. So I like to sort.
Speaker 4: Of have that correlation because a lot of times people say,
Speaker 4: I don't want to disturb my mother may be my
Speaker 4: deceased mothers may be resting in peace.
Speaker 5: I don't want to you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: If they're right here, And I'm like, oh, disturb them
Speaker 4: because they want to hear from you, they want to
Speaker 4: be involved in your life, and they will help in
Speaker 4: any way they can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think any he's resting in peace. I
Speaker 3: think they're living more than they possibly can't. And I
Speaker 3: love the snow globe story. I've been at this game
Speaker 3: for twenty five years, researching the afterlife, and people say
Speaker 3: that there's music that our brains can't even get our
Speaker 3: head around. There's colors that don't exist in our spectrum,
Speaker 3: but they exist in the hereafter, So how can you
Speaker 3: explain that If we don't have it here, how can
Speaker 3: we really get it? And also, people have had near
Speaker 3: death experiences that they experienced so much, but there's no
Speaker 3: language that they can share what it is. So snow
Speaker 3: Globe sounds perfect. And also I like how you describe grief.
Speaker 3: It is the most painful thing any of us go through.
Speaker 3: And I know when we love someone, In fact, the
Speaker 3: more we love, the more it hurts. So everything you
Speaker 3: and I and others are doing to spread the good
Speaker 3: word that life goes on, and they're right here with us,
Speaker 3: it doesn't help, like giving them being able to call
Speaker 3: them or give them a hug, but it certainly does help.
Speaker 3: It does, so tell us about your souls focus. Let's
Speaker 3: let's get into the book and some of these things
Speaker 3: that you've learned and principles you teach.
Speaker 5: It's interesting because, as I had mentioned, after I.
Speaker 4: Sort of learned about everything, the universe was putting me
Speaker 4: in the path of people. And you know, in my work,
Speaker 4: in my work day, although my work is not a
Speaker 4: spiritual type of work, they're still so I'm surrounded by
Speaker 4: people and I would sort of like, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: be speaking to somebody, and you know, I would throw out, okay,
Speaker 4: why don't we meet on you know, August fifteenth. I
Speaker 4: think that's a good day for us to meet next.
Speaker 5: And then the person's face drops and says, I can't
Speaker 5: believe you just said August fifteenth. My grandfather died last.
Speaker 4: To August fifteenth, and I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: you said that for a reason, and I would be like, oh,
Speaker 4: then you're absolutely right. I mean, I just picked that
Speaker 4: date out of the air. It just means nothing to
Speaker 4: me in my head. But obviously your grandfather is saying hello,
Speaker 4: and then next thing you know, it would be they
Speaker 4: would have story after story a story.
Speaker 5: And my son sees this and I was like, that's
Speaker 5: so cool.
Speaker 4: You know, after being in the position of sort of
Speaker 4: I'm being in the path of people who are either
Speaker 4: grieving or curious, I realized I had to consolidate what
Speaker 4: I knew into something tangible and real that was timeless.
Speaker 5: I mean, the information in.
Speaker 4: My book just will be long after I'm gone, it
Speaker 4: still pertains. So I just needed to sort of get
Speaker 4: it into some kind of form that people could appreciate.
Speaker 4: I almost pictured people like getting the book and after
Speaker 4: you sort of get past the fact that I learned
Speaker 4: that there is an afterlife, because that in and of
Speaker 4: itself a lot of people may not know. I certainly
Speaker 4: didn't know, but other people may know. I also have
Speaker 4: those kind of significant takeaways. I almost pictured people, and
Speaker 4: I have had people tell me they sort of like
Speaker 4: highlight the book with things that they feel like, oh,
Speaker 4: I want to remember this, you know this pertains to
Speaker 4: me or something like that. So and I think all
Speaker 4: of our books that come out that have these kind
Speaker 4: of pearls of wisdom or knowledge, knowledge or little tidbits
Speaker 4: after years of research, you're sort of looking for those
Speaker 4: tidbits that resonate with somebody so they can sort of
Speaker 4: take it into their their daily life. But what happened
Speaker 4: was I was, you know, became very intent on writing
Speaker 4: a book, putting it into a form that is tangible
Speaker 4: and enjoyable. And I'm a numbers person. I'm not a writer.
Speaker 5: I don't read a lot either, except for you know,
Speaker 5: business articles and things like that, so I'm not that
Speaker 5: like kind of verbal and reading writing person. I'm really
Speaker 5: like numbers. I love numbers. So after I wrote the
Speaker 5: whole thing, I was like, well, I think this is
Speaker 5: pretty good.
Speaker 4: So I got up the nerve to ask three local
Speaker 4: mediums with a public presence on Long Island where I
Speaker 4: live in New York, to do me a favor and
Speaker 4: read it from their perspective, because I felt like, it's okay,
Speaker 4: it's good for an accounting from an accountant's perspective. But
Speaker 4: I wonder if a spiritual person would also appreciate it
Speaker 4: and to recommend it, if they were so inclined, And
Speaker 4: they each of one of the three of them, very
Speaker 4: different people read it and gave me a recommendation, which
Speaker 4: I have in the.
Speaker 5: Back of the book and I have in the inside
Speaker 5: of the book. And so I was so appreciative.
Speaker 4: But then I knew I was onto something because I
Speaker 4: was like, Jesus, this works for me from my accounting
Speaker 4: kind of brain, and it works from a spiritual perspective.
Speaker 5: Also, I think the combination in this book is just,
Speaker 5: you know, a good message for people.
Speaker 4: Since I put it out and of course, you know
Speaker 4: the way the universe works, I published it two days
Speaker 4: before my mother in law's birthday. The first book that
Speaker 4: was published has her birthday as the date that it
Speaker 4: was printed, which is like, that's how.
Speaker 5: The universe works, you know. So February second was a
Speaker 5: first printed copy which I gave to my mother. So
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, but that's how the universe works.
Speaker 5: Now I sort of get it.
Speaker 4: But at any rate, when I put it out there,
Speaker 4: I've had such heartwarming messages from people who really appreciated it.
Speaker 4: I had this woman from Oregon. Obviously I'd never know
Speaker 4: anybody from Oregon, but she but you know, the wonders
Speaker 4: of social media, she contacted me and she said, you know,
Speaker 4: she had lost her adult son about a year prior,
Speaker 4: and she stumbled across my book and she wanted to
Speaker 4: thank me for taking the time to write it because
Speaker 4: it really helped comfort her and it shared a perspective
Speaker 4: that she had not thought about prior. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's that is great, and that's exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 4: I just wanted it to, you know, help people maybe
Speaker 4: see things from a perspective that they may not otherwise
Speaker 4: have thought, you know, thought.
Speaker 5: So that's your sole focus. You know. It has a
Speaker 5: lot of, like.
Speaker 4: I said, personal stories and antidotes, but only enough to
Speaker 4: get my points across.
Speaker 5: And of course the number one point is yes, there's
Speaker 5: an afterlife.
Speaker 4: But I also speak about the grief and the snow globe,
Speaker 4: you know, just a variety of other things because I
Speaker 4: just want to share what I've learned as exactly as
Speaker 4: you're doing, share what I've learned with others, because you know,
Speaker 4: if you can help somebody, that's that connection.
Speaker 5: That we have is invaluable and it's so rewarding. So
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, why wouldn't I want to do that?
Speaker 3: That's right, and you're the perfect person to write the
Speaker 3: book and speak on it, because like with my book,
Speaker 3: my subtitles a Skeptics Discovery of Life after Death. I
Speaker 3: didn't believe in me this. So you're going to have
Speaker 3: a lot of those people who love numbers just like you,
Speaker 3: who might not have believed in the afterlife, but then
Speaker 3: something happens and they're going to look for answers. So
Speaker 3: is it better to listen to some of these spiritual
Speaker 3: wu wu kind of people or you and they're gonna
Speaker 3: take you? What are some of these other nuggets that
Speaker 3: you have in your book? Is it about living life?
Speaker 4: Yes, it's really about how the other side relates to us.
Speaker 4: And I think I'm going to give you what I
Speaker 4: feel is the one thing that I've learned that people
Speaker 4: who do believe in the afterlife and are grieving the
Speaker 4: loss of a loved one, I hear this question over
Speaker 4: and over again, and that question is why don't I
Speaker 4: see signs?
Speaker 5: The whole sign thing is so important to people.
Speaker 4: I will say that in addition to writing my book,
Speaker 4: I serve on the board of a nonprofit foundation called
Speaker 4: the Forever Family Foundation, and their mission is to scientifically
Speaker 4: prove as an afterlife. So I've been blessed to be
Speaker 4: surrounded by like minded people for the last a little
Speaker 4: over a decade. So that was one of one of
Speaker 4: the groups that I found when my mother in law,
Speaker 4: after my mother proved me there was an afterlife, I
Speaker 4: sort of stumbled across upon Forever Family Foundation, and I
Speaker 4: can just see that people grieving and people curious. Signs
Speaker 4: is the number one kind of question that people ask about,
Speaker 4: and the struggle that a lot of people have is
Speaker 4: why don't I get signs? Why am I not able
Speaker 4: to see my deceased father in my dreams? Why does
Speaker 4: my neighbor get the cardinal but I don't. So there's
Speaker 4: a lot of struggle with why people may not receive signs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, people really want to see signs. They
Speaker 3: worry when they don't, and for a lot of people
Speaker 3: that's what they need to let them know that their
Speaker 3: loved one is okay and not dead. So when we
Speaker 3: come back from the break, Annette, talk about your two
Speaker 3: reasons and we'll talk about signs, are they important, what
Speaker 3: do we need to look for and more. Let's go
Speaker 3: to the break and we'll be back with Annette Marnaccio.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain
Speaker 3: and we're here with author Annette Marinaccio. Annette, you're just
Speaker 3: saying that there are two important things you have to
Speaker 3: say about why people don't see signs from their loved ones.
Speaker 5: One of them is, ask for the sign. Ask for
Speaker 5: the sign. Don't wait if you're really struggling, don't sit
Speaker 5: and wait for a sign, a nonscript sign that you're
Speaker 5: not even sure what you're waiting for. Be very specific
Speaker 5: and ask for a sign and you'll see. I have
Speaker 5: it in my book, a couple of stories with people
Speaker 5: asked for signs. I'll give you an example of one.
Speaker 4: My sister, who was very skeptical when I was starting
Speaker 4: to learn about all this. She said, oh, really, you
Speaker 4: can ask for anything. Oh fine, I'm going to ask
Speaker 4: grandma grandmother to show me a seahorse.
Speaker 5: I'll never see that. You know, a seahorse is so rare.
Speaker 5: Forget it, I'll never see it. Let's see how real
Speaker 5: this is.
Speaker 4: And usually your loved ones if you ask for something
Speaker 4: very specific that you can't discount, if you do see it.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you just ask for like I'd like
Speaker 4: to see, you know, a red circle, Well you may
Speaker 4: see a red circle and then you say yeah, but
Speaker 4: of course I'm going to see a red circle. But
Speaker 4: a seahorse is not something to see in the old
Speaker 4: ara course, so you have to ask for something unique,
Speaker 4: and typically they will if they can, they will show
Speaker 4: you within.
Speaker 5: Two weeks, about two weeks. There's a science to it.
Speaker 5: Almost a couple of weeks you will see it. So
Speaker 5: sure enough she's asking for a sea horse, and you
Speaker 5: meditate on the seahorse, and you right, and her coworker
Speaker 5: comes back from vacation about a week after she's asked
Speaker 5: my grandmother for the sea horse, with all pictures of
Speaker 5: her vacation, and of course her family visited an aquarium,
Speaker 5: and of course she had pictures of the seahorse display
Speaker 5: and my sister was like, oh, my goodness, I actually
Speaker 5: saw because that's a horse. And I'm like yeah. So
Speaker 5: the first thing on signs is ask them if they
Speaker 5: can show you something, they will, and then you will.
Speaker 5: It'll be easier for you to say I can't discount
Speaker 5: that it really happened.
Speaker 4: But I also have the out to this, you know,
Speaker 4: because not everyone will see the sign they ask for
Speaker 4: in that two weeks, and then people say, well, then
Speaker 4: why didn't I see it?
Speaker 5: Is it that my deceased father, isn't there.
Speaker 4: My son doesn't love me like I thought he did.
Speaker 4: I don't understand this, is it not really true? And
Speaker 4: the interesting thing is, I like to say, and this
Speaker 4: is a very significant takeaway, the souls are right there
Speaker 4: on the other side of that snow globe. But they
Speaker 4: are very polite, very respectful, the ultimate and respectful and polite.
Speaker 4: They will not interfere with your soul's journey or the
Speaker 4: journey or purpose of another soul. And if you are
Speaker 4: meant to live this life without seeing constant signs from
Speaker 4: your deceased love one, because you need not to see
Speaker 4: the signs to grow, You need to not see them
Speaker 4: in order for your soul to grow, then you will
Speaker 4: not see the sign because your deceased loved one is
Speaker 4: more intent on you joining him or horror in the
Speaker 4: hereafter and having your soul have grown. They're more intent
Speaker 4: on that. Then they're more intent on you coming back
Speaker 4: to the other side with your soul's purpose having occurred.
Speaker 4: Then they are worrying about you seeing a sign here.
Speaker 4: They want your soul to grow. And if your soul
Speaker 4: is going to grow by not seeing constant signs, then
Speaker 4: they are going to hold back because they will not
Speaker 4: interfere with your soul's growth or the growth of someone else,
Speaker 4: and they're going to not show you the sign.
Speaker 5: So it's not really about the signs. It's not. It
Speaker 5: really isn't. It's about your soul's purpose and your soul's growth,
Speaker 5: and they're waiting on the other side for you to
Speaker 5: get there and for them to say, congratulations, you live
Speaker 5: through the life here. I also like to say this
Speaker 5: is another significant thing.
Speaker 4: If you were able to sort of tap into the
Speaker 4: other side all the time, it would be such a distraction.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, mediums and psychics they have to
Speaker 4: actually learn to turn off that constant barrage. But if
Speaker 4: you really were able to sort of tap into the
Speaker 4: other side and really understand all the mysteries of life,
Speaker 4: it would be such a distraction to your soul's purpose here.
Speaker 4: If you knew that you were going to be you know,
Speaker 4: I'm making this up, but you know, hit by a
Speaker 4: car or in a car accident at fifty years old,
Speaker 4: maybe not crossover, but being a debilitating car accident fifty.
Speaker 4: Could you imagine in your thirties and forties how distracted
Speaker 4: you would be you wouldn't be.
Speaker 5: Leaving the house at fifty years old. You'd be like,
Speaker 5: was it fifty one or fifty two? I have to say,
Speaker 5: I mean you, you'd be so distracted you wouldn't be
Speaker 5: able to develop your soul's purpose here.
Speaker 4: So we're not really supposed to see all these signs
Speaker 4: and have the knowing that the other side has. We're
Speaker 4: really supposed to be here to enjoy what we have
Speaker 4: here and to grow. So that's some significant a series
Speaker 4: of significant things that I've learned and that I included
Speaker 4: in your soul's focus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for our friends on the other side, there is
Speaker 3: no time, So outside of the snow globe, there's no time.
Speaker 3: So for us, what seems like a lifetime for them
Speaker 3: is just a blink of an eye. So we might
Speaker 3: have that panic to get a sign. And I also
Speaker 3: believe that just because we cross over, it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: we have all the information in the universe. We don't
Speaker 3: know how to manipulate lights and you know, all these
Speaker 3: other kinds of things make pomp poms appear. You know,
Speaker 3: we don't have that. I believe there's a school of learning.
Speaker 5: To do that.
Speaker 3: But also anat I was just thinking that we retain
Speaker 3: our same personalities. For instance, my grandmother, wonderful lady. When
Speaker 3: we were alone together, she would speak her mind, but
Speaker 3: when we were with a group of people, she'd stay
Speaker 3: reserved and let the young people talk, you know. So
Speaker 3: it was a good ten years after she passed before
Speaker 3: she finally came through in a medium reading. The people
Speaker 3: continue to have their personalities. So if somebody wasn't boisterous
Speaker 3: or let me get to the front of the line
Speaker 3: in life, they're not going to be that in death.
Speaker 3: But I do say, playful out, ask for the signs,
Speaker 3: but slow down and pay attention. Do you find that too,
Speaker 3: that people are so busy in their own minds that
Speaker 3: you need to be present to actually see a sign.
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. Everything you said is absolutely right. And
Speaker 4: the interesting thing too, is you may not get the
Speaker 4: sign in the exact way that you think you're going
Speaker 4: to get a sign. So you may be saying, okay,
Speaker 4: I want to see, you know, a yellow bird.
Speaker 5: You may not actually see a yellow bird flying past
Speaker 5: your window, but you may actually, you know, drive by
Speaker 5: a restaurant holld the yellow right.
Speaker 4: So sometimes signs can be a little bit like elusive,
Speaker 4: and you have to be in tune to the fact
Speaker 4: that it may not be exactly what you're you're asking for,
Speaker 4: you know, or you mean. It may be what you're
Speaker 4: asking for, but not the way you think you're going
Speaker 4: to receive it exactly.
Speaker 3: And there's got to be some mystery too, like you
Speaker 3: said about knowing all the answers in the universe or
Speaker 3: what's coming in the afterlife. It might be great, but
Speaker 3: there is stuff here to learn. I think we're born
Speaker 3: into this light forgetting what home is all about, because
Speaker 3: we'd want to get back there. But there's a richness
Speaker 3: to life, you know. I often say, and that if
Speaker 3: you have to eat your same favorite food over and
Speaker 3: over and over and that's the only food you get
Speaker 3: in the rest of your life, it'd be kind of boring,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it bing. But and comparing that to the afterlife,
Speaker 3: when it's all good all the time, it's fantastic that
Speaker 3: there's something more. So I think the soul's crave being
Speaker 3: here on earth because we have the ups and downs,
Speaker 3: we have all kinds of emotions, and while it might
Speaker 3: be great, there's things that we can get here. Do
Speaker 3: you have any thoughts as to the purpose of life?
Speaker 3: You know, the big question about why we're here or
Speaker 3: how to make the most of it.
Speaker 4: So the why we're here is very straightforward, right, it's
Speaker 4: too love and to grow. That's really why we're here.
Speaker 4: So it's all about right, I mean, that's just it.
Speaker 5: So it's all about our connection to each other, sharing things,
Speaker 5: and our soul's growth. You know.
Speaker 4: It's interesting as I've gotten older and as I've learned more,
Speaker 4: I start to be able to tell, you know, or
Speaker 4: to know when I'm working with the universe as opposed.
Speaker 5: To grinding against it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So when you feel that kind of friction, you know,
Speaker 4: and you're not aligned, that's a sure sign you're probably
Speaker 4: not working towards your soul's purpose. But if you're really,
Speaker 4: if things are rolling easily for you, then you can
Speaker 4: feel comfortable that you're working to your soul's purpose. Chances
Speaker 4: are if you're looking at things positively and sharing that
Speaker 4: positivity and sharing anything you can with any one you can, chances.
Speaker 5: Are you working toward your soul's goal. I mean.
Speaker 4: And it could be one big goal, one small goal,
Speaker 4: it could be a lot of little goals. And you
Speaker 4: also may have decided to come here not for your
Speaker 4: own growth, but to help somebody else grow. So you
Speaker 4: may have decided, Okay, I'm coming here and I'll do
Speaker 4: a bunch of these little things. But the real purpose
Speaker 4: I'm here is to help this group of people grow,
Speaker 4: or to help one other person grow. It's not always
Speaker 4: about your own soul. It's about other souls too, souls
Speaker 4: within your group. So yeah, but that's I mean, that's
Speaker 4: the simple purpose, right, love and grow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think about other souls. And somebody
Speaker 3: once said that I interviewed, because not all souls are
Speaker 3: friendly to you. Some are, you know, you get these
Speaker 3: relationships that clash. But what she had said is other
Speaker 3: people can be like a bit of sand in an oyster, right,
Speaker 3: and so we learn that to deal with it, and
Speaker 3: we grow and what ultimately comes on is a pearl. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it all starts from that friction.
Speaker 4: That's interesting too, You're right, because soulmates. Everybody thinks like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'd love to just meet and full in love.
Speaker 5: With my soulmate, you know, and things will be so
Speaker 5: happy and blissful and easy.
Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes your soulmate is somebody that's going
Speaker 4: to force your soul to grow, and it may not
Speaker 4: be so blissful and happy and easy. And and you
Speaker 4: find that even in your family, you know, your siblings,
Speaker 4: or your parents or your children, it may not be
Speaker 4: so you know, it typically isn't so swimmingly easy.
Speaker 5: And it's because they're pushing your soul to grow.
Speaker 3: And now let me just jump in. You just said
Speaker 3: some things that are a goal. When you're talking about
Speaker 3: forcing your soul to grow. I think we all come
Speaker 3: from families that there's been friction, or maybe there is
Speaker 3: right now. And learning how to see life from another
Speaker 3: person's perspective, learning how to communicate, learning how to rise
Speaker 3: above and maybe bite your tongue and wait before responding.
Speaker 3: And then also you had mentioned that we may be
Speaker 3: here for someone else. Imagine being so wise in the
Speaker 3: before life and then coming to earth with certainly some
Speaker 3: soul growth to be done, but being so generous to say,
Speaker 3: let me help you to another soul and give of
Speaker 3: yourself so that these circumstances happen to help other people. Anyways,
Speaker 3: we need to go to a break and then we'll
Speaker 3: be right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife
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Speaker 1: And now back to Sandra Champlain and Shades.
Speaker 7: Of the Afterlife.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and we're here with Annette Marnaccio, author of Your Sole Focus. Annette,
Speaker 3: we were just talking about tough times and tough people
Speaker 3: and the ability for soul growth. Can you talk more
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 5: I was blessed she would want Oprah Winfrey's a large
Speaker 5: stadium events.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: And she was beautiful, beautiful person, unbelievable stories. And at
Speaker 4: the end she was telling a story about her mother
Speaker 4: and her very very difficult upbringing. But she said at
Speaker 4: the end, at the end, after her mother passed, she
Speaker 4: realized that she didn't get the mother she wanted, but
Speaker 4: she definitely got the mother she needed. That happens, you know,
Speaker 4: and maybe not always with parents, but a lot of
Speaker 4: times you do cross paths with people that you need,
Speaker 4: even though they may not be people that you feel
Speaker 4: happiest with, but they if they're helping your soul to grow,
Speaker 4: you'll sort of know it as opposed to toxic people
Speaker 4: that you really should just walk away and you know,
Speaker 4: get out of their way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes that's hard, but we do the best we can.
Speaker 3: I heard somebody speak on this yesterday, and it's similar
Speaker 3: to what you're saying. So often people blame their parents
Speaker 3: for the life that they have, right you hear that,
Speaker 3: Or they blame a spouse or a relationship gone wrong
Speaker 3: for how it now is. But when we really look
Speaker 3: to see where we've grown. So there's been some say
Speaker 3: a child that's been neglected, it turns out to be
Speaker 3: the best parent ever, right, best parent, best grandparent. Well
Speaker 3: it all stems back from that relationship with their parent.
Speaker 3: So instead of using the energy to make them wrong,
Speaker 3: maybe they were here for our soul to grow. And
Speaker 3: whether it's true or it's not, if we can look
Speaker 3: from an empowering lens, then you can move on with
Speaker 3: your life and you can thank them. You know, I've
Speaker 3: had some difficulties in my family. Things around the time
Speaker 3: of my dad's death. But had everyone not played the
Speaker 3: roles that they did, I would have never gone searching
Speaker 3: for answers. I would have never written the book, I
Speaker 3: would have never had these shows. I would have never
Speaker 3: met you today. So while it's easy for our human
Speaker 3: brains to have these flashbacks and make people wrong, you know,
Speaker 3: make them right because without them we wouldn't be right
Speaker 3: here today.
Speaker 5: Well that's a great story, because you're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 5: all those things that occurred to you when your dad died,
Speaker 5: and all those family and friend relationships that may have,
Speaker 5: you know, felt like they were grinding at the time,
Speaker 5: like a friction. Look at what it's done. It's put
Speaker 5: you in a place to help so many people. That's
Speaker 5: a huge blessing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, the hardest times in our life can
Speaker 3: be the biggest growth for our soul. So, Annatt, what
Speaker 3: else would you like to talk about?
Speaker 5: Well, again, I think I would just say I would
Speaker 5: like everybody to appreciate the work that you put into
Speaker 5: the show, you put into your book, I put in
Speaker 5: my book.
Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of like guiding light
Speaker 4: kinds of personalities out there, and I really hope that
Speaker 4: people who are attracted to you know, this kind of
Speaker 4: an environment.
Speaker 5: Do what you're doing.
Speaker 4: Which is really give back, give back to the community,
Speaker 4: and give back to family and friends, because that is
Speaker 4: only going to It helps your own soul, it helps
Speaker 4: you feel good, and it just it helps the world.
Speaker 4: We're all connected. We're connected to people we don't know,
Speaker 4: let alone people we do know. We are all connected.
Speaker 5: So the more we can raise the elevation and the
Speaker 5: spiritual level and the level of spiritual awareness of anyone
Speaker 5: else and everyone else, and the better of if we
Speaker 5: are so, I think, you know, that's what I would like.
Speaker 5: The message I would like to give is I think
Speaker 5: sharing is very important.
Speaker 3: When you say in purpose of life, his love and grow,
Speaker 3: you know, I also want to throw in their service
Speaker 3: because it helps everything. I mean, if you're at rock
Speaker 3: bottom grieving, which is an awful place to be, if
Speaker 3: you can set your sights on someone else, maybe making
Speaker 3: a difference for someone else, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you start feeling better, whatever that may be in each
Speaker 3: one of us. I feel, whether it's afterlife or not,
Speaker 3: there's a journey we've been on, there's growth that we've had,
Speaker 3: and if we can share our knowledge with others and
Speaker 3: be that moral support. I think it just makes a
Speaker 3: huge difference.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's interesting you say that because one of the motivations
Speaker 4: for me sticking with writing the book was a very
Speaker 4: unlikely source, Justin Bieber. So Justin Bieber, that is unlikely,
Speaker 4: very unlikely because he's there are young fellow in his twenties,
Speaker 4: and I'm obviously I'll be kind to myself middlely woman,
Speaker 4: you know, than an older woman. So you wouldn't think
Speaker 4: that he would be able to be in a position
Speaker 4: to influence me. But he did come across my feed
Speaker 4: in Google or whatever at some point around the time
Speaker 4: of January twenty twenty, when I had committed to myself
Speaker 4: that I was going to try and get this book together.
Speaker 4: It was an interview of his and who knows from
Speaker 4: when it was, I don't remember, but he basically said
Speaker 4: that one of the things that helped turn him around
Speaker 4: was his ability to focus on others. He said, when
Speaker 4: I was younger. Of course he's still young, but when
Speaker 4: he was younger, he said, he was very you know,
Speaker 4: self absorbed or focused on himself, and when.
Speaker 5: He realized that it was more important to.
Speaker 4: Focus on others, that's when he sort of turns was
Speaker 4: able to turn his life around, and that just resonated
Speaker 4: with me, and I was like, that's the answer. The
Speaker 4: answer is not to focus on us. The answers to
Speaker 4: focus on others.
Speaker 5: Exactly what you said, Sada a service, because if you
Speaker 5: can continue to focus on others, a lot falls into place.
Speaker 5: And throughout the process of that year writing my book,
Speaker 5: I had to keep my eye on that and my
Speaker 5: ear on that. I had to keep going back to
Speaker 5: that focus on others, because it really is. There are
Speaker 5: many times in the process of writing a book, and
Speaker 5: I'm sure in your process of putting on the shows
Speaker 5: and whatnot, where it's just sometimes it's easy to say,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to do that today. You
Speaker 5: know I'm going to put that off, and it's easier
Speaker 5: just not to sort of put the energy into it sometimes.
Speaker 5: But I kept thinking, justin Bieber's you know, I have
Speaker 5: to focus on the on others.
Speaker 4: I can't focus on the hassle it is for me
Speaker 4: right now, I have to focus on.
Speaker 5: Putting this book out and having it help somebody. That's
Speaker 5: what I have to focus on.
Speaker 4: And that's what I did, and it makes it that
Speaker 4: service to others really makes things just easy. You know,
Speaker 4: if you can keep your eye on that, it does
Speaker 4: make life a lot easier.
Speaker 3: So many people think they're not smart enough or their
Speaker 3: story is not important enough. But if it's happened to you,
Speaker 3: somebody else is going through it. And I really think,
Speaker 3: while a lot of people may never have a book,
Speaker 3: if you can get your story out there, whatever hardship
Speaker 3: that you went through and how you overcame it, you
Speaker 3: don't have to do anything with it. You don't need
Speaker 3: to sell a book, you don't need to have a show.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's literally just sharing a post on social
Speaker 3: media or if you're brave enough to have a camera
Speaker 3: to you, you know, do Facebook live or something and
Speaker 3: just say, you know, there's something I want to get
Speaker 3: off my chest and share your story. You never know
Speaker 3: who's at their wits end going through the same exact thing,
Speaker 3: and these synchronicities, these signs are real and somebody might
Speaker 3: just see it and it's the difference they need. Here's
Speaker 3: an example for you. I got a really interesting email
Speaker 3: from a guy whose three year old child had died
Speaker 3: and he was driving in his car. He just asked
Speaker 3: Siri on the phone to play some news nothing about
Speaker 3: the afterlife, and what started playing was an episode of
Speaker 3: my show.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's so great.
Speaker 3: But he had to open his mouth, and the universe
Speaker 3: or God, whoever you want to say, loved ones put
Speaker 3: it in his path, and so it's made a difference.
Speaker 3: So everybody who's listening right now, your story is important.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, all that stuff that you've been through
Speaker 3: in your life, it's growth for your soul, and if
Speaker 3: you can share it with others, it's the magic formula
Speaker 3: of having a good life. There really is.
Speaker 4: My purpose is just to sort of get the word
Speaker 4: out there. I really would love the same as you
Speaker 4: for people to live very fulfilled lives, and it is
Speaker 4: so possible. So I think, you know, fifteen years ago,
Speaker 4: before my mother in law died, I was just very
Speaker 4: busily living my crazy life. Once she opened my eyes,
Speaker 4: it was like, ah, this is what it's about.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit more you know, intense that I
Speaker 5: thought in a good way. So so anyway, yeah.
Speaker 3: If you had to leave people with just one last
Speaker 3: piece of advice, you might have already covered it.
Speaker 5: But what would you say to people again? I think
Speaker 5: the advice is that love and grow situation. Our theme
Speaker 5: of sharing, you know that and service, as you've.
Speaker 4: Brought up is really it's really you know, people say, oh,
Speaker 4: it's better to give some to receive it really is it?
Speaker 5: Really is? It feels better.
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, the more people speak about the afterlife,
Speaker 4: if they've had experiences, the more it's open and discussed openly,
Speaker 4: especially by people who aren't exactly mediums, you know, and
Speaker 4: maybe people assume that psychic and mediums are always speaking about.
Speaker 5: That kind of thing.
Speaker 4: People that aren't psychics and mediums get out there and
Speaker 4: if you've had these experiences, these real life experiences, speak
Speaker 4: about them, speak about them openly, because they just may
Speaker 4: help somebody, and that's what it's about.
Speaker 3: Thanks. And if you are somebody that is having a
Speaker 3: tough time, and you might have somebody that wants to
Speaker 3: give and wants to share, and sometimes the hardest thing
Speaker 3: is to allow someone to give. And so just remember
Speaker 3: the person gets a whole bunch of growth for their
Speaker 3: soul if they're able to give. So don't shut them
Speaker 3: off if they want to share with you. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's two way street. And certainly when we have the means,
Speaker 3: we do share, but let other people share and love
Speaker 3: you as well well. Annatt, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: being our guest today.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much for having me Sandra. It
Speaker 4: was a beautiful way to spend the afternoon.
Speaker 3: I agree. I love spending time with you too. And
Speaker 3: for our listener, we love hearing stories. Every guest I
Speaker 3: talk to, I want to hear more stories, more stories.
Speaker 3: And you may be someone who has had some signs
Speaker 3: or something special happen with your loved one who may
Speaker 3: be in the afterlife. If you don't have the courage
Speaker 3: to share openly, that's okay. Why don't you send them
Speaker 3: to me? Because I don't even have to mention your
Speaker 3: real name. But there's something that you've experienced that will
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