WEBVTT - Past and present players week: Part 3 | Texans All Access

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. We have another

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<v Speaker 1>summer Special's week special for you players past in present,

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<v Speaker 1>Texans Legends community members. Tonight it is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Foreman, tackling machine from the early days of Texans history.

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<v Speaker 1>Great guy as well, and other than that, a potpourri

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<v Speaker 1>of running backs. Maybe I could come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>better word, a Shmorga's board of running backs. How about

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<v Speaker 1>an assortment of running backs? That's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>And a reminder, this is a legal issue, suspension issue,

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<v Speaker 1>hearing issue free zone here tonight. Of course I have

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of thoughts on everything, we'll get to those later.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about players past and present for your Houston Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no better way to start this running back

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<v Speaker 1>assortment we have than with a player who used to

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<v Speaker 1>play for the Nemesis Boy. I did a daily brew

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<v Speaker 1>this week on All Time Texans Villains. We covered this

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday with Johnny on the show, and three of

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<v Speaker 1>those top five slots were occupied by Colts Peyton, Manning,

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<v Speaker 1>t Y Hilton, and we gave one slot to the

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<v Speaker 1>Lennon and McCartney of Backfield Torment, Mathis and Freeney those

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<v Speaker 1>two went in as a pair all time Texans villains.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're curious about the others, go to Houston Texans

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and the Texans app and read the story

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Brew from Wednesday. Anyway, this player, Marlon Mack also

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<v Speaker 1>participated in some big ones against the Houston Texans in

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal Blue, including his performance in the playoff victory

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<v Speaker 1>for Indie to cap the twenty eighteenth season. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean cap at a variety of ways here, ouch, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mac is now a Texan and looks spry at OTA's

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<v Speaker 1>great to have him on the squad. Of course, when

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny and I sat down with him at mini camp

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting for me. Feeling the way I do about Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get emotional about this one. Marlon Mack is

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<v Speaker 1>with us, all right, just so you know, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Texans. I hate the Colts like poison in

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy football sports way. So it's great to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on our team now because I'm tired of you

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<v Speaker 1>doing the damage you've done against the Texans and that

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<v Speaker 1>whole franchise. So welcome, thank you, thank you. Glad to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Can you help us get over the hump

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<v Speaker 1>on them? I mean, all right, good good, I'm glad. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When we think about Marlon Mack and we heard that

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<v Speaker 1>we were signing you, the first thing we thought about,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that playoff game and then I send

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<v Speaker 1>us down a rabbit hole in that playoff game where

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<v Speaker 1>you just went absolutely nuts at that particular point. The

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, you've had a few injuries. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you've probably heard that along the way, and so

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, what's he got left? I ask Marlon

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<v Speaker 1>mac Yeah, what you got left? I think I got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot left, man. Uh. This past few year has

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<v Speaker 1>just been tough for me. But last year I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get that chance. And now I'm here with the Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>They just gotta work. Hopefully I get that chance here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad to do what I do. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>system like for you? How do you see your fit

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<v Speaker 1>in this system? What can you tell the fans about

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<v Speaker 1>what it's gonna look like. Uh, definitely gonna be good

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<v Speaker 1>for me, hopefully breaking a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the arts, a lot of touchdowns, That's what that's been playing.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, hopefully I do that bring some assitement to

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<v Speaker 1>the football team. When you were growing up a did

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<v Speaker 1>if you always played running back and be as you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing running back. Was there any particular guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>looked after looked at college or pro that you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the guy I want to be. Like? Uh, so

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<v Speaker 1>I played a play defense, play safety, Yeah, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh love safety, but then I just fell a love

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<v Speaker 1>running the ball growing up watching ap you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guys. I watched a lot of Percy

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<v Speaker 1>Harmon in college. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was he

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<v Speaker 1>was excitement. Uh, that's what I loved to watch him

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<v Speaker 1>go in there and watch people highlighting go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and do what they do. All right, So let me

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<v Speaker 1>take you back to Indy. Sorry, Uh, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest divisional rival when you look at the Jags, the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans and the Texans? Who do the cults see as

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<v Speaker 1>a big rival or is it all kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>same to that? Uh? It was definitely all the same

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<v Speaker 1>because like coach, you couldn't we couldn't win in Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing. Um, Texas, you know, you you go get

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<v Speaker 1>a good game no matter what. Defense was always good

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<v Speaker 1>and um Jackson Tennessee. It was like a back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what I think with this division. You

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<v Speaker 1>never know who you're gonna beat with weak because you

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<v Speaker 1>never know man easy weak is like always a battle

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<v Speaker 1>with these guys. The reason I asked you about who

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<v Speaker 1>you watched is there's a there's a patience. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>watching without pass, but we've seen you play. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a patience level to your run until you get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where there it is boom, I'm gone. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you have this patient level even back to the USF

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<v Speaker 1>And I was actually watching this morning that we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you, going back and reminding you, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>number five, okay, and watching you hit the gas once

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<v Speaker 1>you got beyondline scrimmage. But there was kind of levion

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<v Speaker 1>bell patient, I'm gonna find my hole, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>I find I'm gonna make you pay. How would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe your running style us more of a patience but

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<v Speaker 1>once that that time and tick off, you gotta hit

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like slow show, slow go yause that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I learned coming to this league, man and watching

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Gore in front of me, who actually just retired

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<v Speaker 1>fights to legend, but just watching him be patient, but

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<v Speaker 1>once he hit it, he hit it. Yeah, he went hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's kind of helped my game. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I came into him and I had learned be patient,

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<v Speaker 1>slow it down a little bit, but then go and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I used that speeds and get through the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Marlon Mack with us so far in your career, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been around a bunch of different quarterbacks with one franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of guys have been through that door.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you seeing in young Davis Mills here

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<v Speaker 1>as he enters year two? And I know it's your

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<v Speaker 1>first interaction with him in offseason practices, but how has

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<v Speaker 1>that been for you? What are you seeing in the

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<v Speaker 1>young quarterback? Big steps, this leadership out of him. He

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<v Speaker 1>got that that leadership that all qbs need, leads us,

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<v Speaker 1>getting guys in the right formation, right play, makes you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know what they're doing, and that what you need

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<v Speaker 1>in a quarterback. Man. That leadership, that leading guys, that's

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<v Speaker 1>leading by example, telling us make sure everybody in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction, going know to play and being on point. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I see, am, Marlon. We love Houston, we

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<v Speaker 1>love Texas, but Mark was the play by play voice

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami Hurricanes. I coached in Northeast Florida, so we

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<v Speaker 1>know there's something a little different about players, especially those

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<v Speaker 1>from the South Florida area. What is it? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you describe it? We see so many players around the

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<v Speaker 1>league that are from the South Florida area, as for

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<v Speaker 1>Lauderdale or you know, down in Miami Dade County. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is? Why, what's what's in the water, what's in

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<v Speaker 1>the sauce? What what makes that area so rich with

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<v Speaker 1>ball players? Uh do not know. Man. For many years,

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<v Speaker 1>I always wondered. But it's just like we just we're

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<v Speaker 1>born into it. I guess we live it, we sweated,

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<v Speaker 1>we just we just grew up playing it so much

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<v Speaker 1>and we love it. Man, I don't know. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us, and there's a bunch of time

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<v Speaker 1>of down there. So whatever was in the water keep

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<v Speaker 1>being in the order. Did you know when did you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm going to the league? When did you know, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my goal? And then b I can get

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<v Speaker 1>there and I'm gonna get there. I won't even lie, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't recognize it to Like my sophomore year in college,

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<v Speaker 1>I just went through it. I was just playing a

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<v Speaker 1>game to join it. Um sophomore year after I racked

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<v Speaker 1>up but like my uh my freshman year, I did

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand. Second year I did two thousand. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>had like thirteen hundred. I was like, oh, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got a chance, and I just got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep improving. And that's why I belieeding myself. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I could do it. Why did you pick South Florida

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years earlier? It might have been Florida, Florida State, Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>but then South Florida comes up and sent from Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other options that are attractive. What attracted you

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<v Speaker 1>to South Florida? South Florida was was kind of there

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<v Speaker 1>from the start. Um. They believed in me. I believed

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<v Speaker 1>in the program. I wanted to help it get back

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<v Speaker 1>to what it was. And uh, coach Billy tagger Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in my ear and uh he was just like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get his back to program to what it was

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<v Speaker 1>ranking them between the nation. Man, I believe that on

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<v Speaker 1>that route a Raccoon class that year was in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the tops in the nation. And Uh, I believed

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<v Speaker 1>in all of us, and I belied in the school.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to help temple areas that kind of out

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<v Speaker 1>Florida area actually bring up the school, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we did. All right, to either or as you're ready,

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty simple. Okay, it's just either or what

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<v Speaker 1>you use an iPhone android phone? Okay? Good? Would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather be miked up for a full game or sing

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite karaoke song at a karaoke bar? I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>mike full full. Nobody's picked singing, nobody's picked singing karaoke? Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The only pizza you can have is pineapple pizza. That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>or never having pizza ever. I have the pineapple pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not a big fan of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have it. I have it. Okay. Would you take

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<v Speaker 1>the pineapple pieces off the pizza before eating it? Or

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<v Speaker 1>leave on some days once I get tired of I

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<v Speaker 1>would figuring out? Yeah, exactly? Exist shoes a J one

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<v Speaker 1>or AJ elevens. Yeah, okay. Now we've asked this a

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<v Speaker 1>few times, gotten some different answers. Business dress, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not like a business event. But you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have busines his dress off? Maybe travel? Yeah, traveling? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't clean Jordan's or you weren't some leather dress shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends when I'm feeling like the sauce that day. Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I might go I'm I'm an joy one guy

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<v Speaker 1>first though, okay, and then I'll probably switch it up sometimes. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jordan once can go with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different dresses, right, you know, like suits and such. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that too. Different color ways. I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 1>have some fun with that. Yeah, you definitely have different

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<v Speaker 1>color ways. Gotta go. Uh, the low top man, the

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<v Speaker 1>low top one. All right? One more for you, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred degrees or thirty degrees degrees? All right, easily,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the guy, Texas guy joining us. Good lot, Thank you. There.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Marlin mac Attack and the Hunday Texans

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<v Speaker 1>radio studio. Hey, Marlin Macattack. I might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>use that this season. I hope I get to a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's continue with running backs. Royce Freeman. We

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<v Speaker 1>visited with him around Mini Camp as well. You might

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<v Speaker 1>remember he showed up during the campaign last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>he burst out of the scene in the NFL in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen with the Denver Broncos. Here he is talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the adjustment to year two in Houston great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just getting to know more of the staff and the

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<v Speaker 1>players that a return and you know, getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>flow of things, like you said, being able to get

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<v Speaker 1>a full offseason. I mean, it's very exciting. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be here. How important is that to be

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable if you will, You're coming last year, You're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where the bathroom is. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>here for a year. How much more comfortable do you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>And how much how much more important is that for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Very important? And also, like I said, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>learn from the staff, learn the staff and the players,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get associated with them. But being able to

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<v Speaker 1>have that full offseason of work, being able to show

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<v Speaker 1>the capabilities, work with the training staff, work with the

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<v Speaker 1>strength and conditioning staff. So I mean all positive for

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<v Speaker 1>your position, Royce. How different is this system with Pep

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton as the coordinator versus what you got last year

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<v Speaker 1>with the Texans. Honestly, we're kind of similar in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're doing a good job of going ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and exploiting our weapons we have on offense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we're trying to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons the ball and go out there and just

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<v Speaker 1>put a lot of pressure on the defense, just like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, exploit, exploit them. This offseason. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing that you wanted to work on for you personally, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, I've got to be able to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll work on this this offseason or was it I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get better at everything. I'm just gonna do what

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<v Speaker 1>I've done in the past years. Yeah, I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>with the ladder. Just being able to do everything I've

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<v Speaker 1>done in the past, but at a higher level. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>being a jack of all trades. Basically, anything they asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to do, the staff, the coaching staff, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do and I want to succeed

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<v Speaker 1>and excel at that. I mean just from special teams

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to um actual pass protections, running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything to ask the me, like I said, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to excel at that. Well. And OTA's mini camp

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<v Speaker 1>no contact. Really there's some contact, but it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are hitting and taking people to the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. But what can you get better

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<v Speaker 1>at right now? And then talk about the rookies too,

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<v Speaker 1>or a rookie back like Daby and Pierce trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get adjusted to the NFL. You were a rookie at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen and had some success. What was the key

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I think everyone can get better at Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's a new offense, so just slowing it down,

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<v Speaker 1>being able to learn the ins and outs of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that'll come over time. But especially as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie relating back to my rookie year, it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a whole whole different world. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have guys who are the best of the best. They

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<v Speaker 1>let you know. The coaches did a great job of

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<v Speaker 1>building this team up and we have some great players

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<v Speaker 1>and just dp Damien, he's done a great job of

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<v Speaker 1>just learning and taking everything from the veteran leaders in

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<v Speaker 1>the group and excited to see him grow. He's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>been able to grasp everything and helping him out along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Rus We talked about this a lot when

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<v Speaker 1>new coaching staff ticks over or new coordinator ticks so

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<v Speaker 1>we rough it's a new offense and it's a new defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot is made of that because we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the NFL game being so complicated, all the verbiage

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. What does it really

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<v Speaker 1>like to learn a new offense? Honestly, they're they're all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of similar in a way. I mean, I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>a couple since I've been in the league, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think with repetition and more exposure, the easier and the

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<v Speaker 1>quicker it is to learn it. You know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got to dive into the books. You gotta get with

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks, you know, Um, they're the ones soaking up everyone. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the knowledge of you know, everybody's responsibility and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>picking the brains of your position, coach and the offensive coordinator. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, diving into it full forest is the best method. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you seeing from Davis Mills going into his

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<v Speaker 1>second year as the leader of the offense? I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like I was just partially here last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, and what I've seen, he's more comfortable. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's exuding in that leadership role. UM, looking to

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<v Speaker 1>him for guiding especially offensively, you know, knowing everyone's responsibility,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just excited to see him excel playing wise.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're a callie guy, right, I am san Diego right? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>In prero Valley, technically two hours east of San Diego. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, down in the desert. So but you're callie guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah desert. Yeah, that's a crazy ride, bro. I did

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<v Speaker 1>that last year from Houston San Diego. Like where like

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<v Speaker 1>the are you in the like huge mountains and all that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people, you know, you leave the mountains of

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego as you're getting into you know, palm Desert,

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<v Speaker 1>into into the valley as we call it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think your loss, just keep going and it's

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<v Speaker 1>will be down there valley Okay. And then you went

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<v Speaker 1>to school in Oregon, I did, played in Denver, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's Houston last year when you got here, was

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<v Speaker 1>that the first time, other than maybe playing a game

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<v Speaker 1>here or traveling through here, that you had been in Houston?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that kind of the first year introduction to Houston

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<v Speaker 1>being here and what was that light? Coming here? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>It was very exciting. I uh, just being around and

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<v Speaker 1>knowing of the team, you know, um, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them as I've been in the league growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and being a part of the organization and seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about playing and RG playing against the conference,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was very exciting. It's just like something

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<v Speaker 1>that I was just fully embraced in and um and

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<v Speaker 1>uh at coming here. It was just and I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for what's Danny Barrett like in the running back room.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got a great personality and everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>know he's recovering from a knee injury or something right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but that probably doesn't affect you guys. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he talks about that. But what is he like

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<v Speaker 1>to be a boss? Oh, he's great, He's chill. But

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<v Speaker 1>as as far as like being a coach, he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gets his point across. He wants the details, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants us to tax sell as well. So like

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<v Speaker 1>we're out there on the field, we're working. But he

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<v Speaker 1>has the full most trust and all of us to

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<v Speaker 1>get the job done. And that's something I appreciate coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a player, receiving it from a coach, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the respect that he has for us, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>running backs to go out there and handle business. Our

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<v Speaker 1>minicamp visit with Royce Freeman in the Hunday Texans Radio

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<v Speaker 1>studio coming up another running back. He used to be

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<v Speaker 1>a Texan, He used to be a Jaguar now he's

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<v Speaker 1>a Texan. Keep track. Dare Ogambawali joins us, followed by

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Foreman. Really fun interviews on the way here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Summer Specials players past in prison for your Texans

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<v Speaker 1>here on Texans All Access, keeping in rolling here on

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<v Speaker 1>this Summer Special's week with Texans players passed and present,

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<v Speaker 1>members of our legends community, and of course current players.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Harris and I visited with a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 1>during Mini camp. Let's get to this running back to

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<v Speaker 1>running back. So far, as we heard from Marlon Mack

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<v Speaker 1>and Royce Freeman, dari Ague has made a name for

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<v Speaker 1>himself in this league as a special teams player who

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<v Speaker 1>can also help out a running back. Very well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>former Jaguar. But he also spend time with the Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to our visit. Daria good Balle joining us

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<v Speaker 1>on Texans Radio. Did I say that correctly? All right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know why, because you were here before. Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 1>You're finally back. So that's got to be strange. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've had a little bit of a journey here between

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<v Speaker 1>what was the twenty seventeen and now, so tell us

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<v Speaker 1>your reaction to coming back to Houston, it was um strange.

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<v Speaker 1>I say strange is the word. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely exciting, man, just um, just the kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>full circle type of moment type thing. Um. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>Houston when I was here for those couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>I was here starting off my NFL journey and bounced around,

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<v Speaker 1>had some success. So now being back, um with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like I said, a little bit more success,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more comfort in the league. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good feeling. So when you think back now we went

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<v Speaker 1>to the greenbrid for training camp, so it's a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you think back to you being a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>and you think about where you are now nine and

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<v Speaker 1>day different, what's kind of the biggest what's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>thing you've probably learned about yourself about the whole process

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL. It's a business we all well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was gonna say that that first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, it's a business man just when you're

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie, Like it's like, I felt I was good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be here, but obviously there was just different

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<v Speaker 1>things that got in the way. Um, But I was still,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, still in practice, squad still had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun with the guys in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was just, um, it's a lot different

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<v Speaker 1>than you expect college and then um getting a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to bounce around, seeing different type of coaches, seeing different

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<v Speaker 1>locker rooms. Being back here now, Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like I got a bigger grasp on what

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL life is like, what it takes to be

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<v Speaker 1>successful in the league. And I feel like I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gotten a good, like I said, a good grasp

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And I'm excited. I'm excited to be back here. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Darry you're with Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit and now you're with David Smells comparing contrash. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell us a little bit about what you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>from David so far, and if you want, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throwing some Trevor Lawrence information there too. Well. Trevor, like

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<v Speaker 1>me and Trevor, we got along great. Man. Trevor was

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<v Speaker 1>a great teammate. It was fun to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of that season with him. And obviously he was highly

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<v Speaker 1>touted rookie and stuff, and Davis, I see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the same talent. Man. Obviously he didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>same scouting report that Trevor had coming out. But Davis

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<v Speaker 1>is talented man, He's real talented. And then he's a

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<v Speaker 1>good leader. Man, He's a good leader. And Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to play with him. Um, he's gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of success in the league. I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a lot to success this year. And Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, he's just got great arm, talent, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>great poise. He's really really smart. I mean that's Stanford stereotype.

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<v Speaker 1>He's real smart. So yeah, like I said, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to play with him, and I can see it now

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have a very successful career. As you come

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<v Speaker 1>back to Houston, what was the biggest thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to work on to get ready for twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably say just more offense. You know, let

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<v Speaker 1>me go, I've kind of got this role in the

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<v Speaker 1>league now as being a special team I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of success on special teams, being special teams captain.

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<v Speaker 1>UM just want to kind of prove that I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>good offensive player as well. Um can make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players out of the backfield, and that's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously comes with reps and things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely looking forward to being able to make some

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<v Speaker 1>plays this year at running back. When you're facing the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans as a Jaguar, is there anything extra, because well

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<v Speaker 1>it all started here, and when you face Jacksonville now

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<v Speaker 1>as a Texan, will there be anything extra? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Man, it's every every week. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you got your boys on the other teams. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>being in my six year now, I've accumulated a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of friends in the league. So it's it's that's more

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<v Speaker 1>so what it is, you know, just getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that you're playing against. It's not really the

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<v Speaker 1>organization because at the end of the day, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a business. You can't just go around being bitter

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<v Speaker 1>at every team. I've been cut a butt, so I

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>can't really be like that. But now it's more so

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<v Speaker 1>just being being excited to play against my friends on

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<v Speaker 1>the other team, other Wisconsin guys, other Big ten guys.

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<v Speaker 1>M just playing to get able to play against them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you made a great point, because sixth year in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's changing teams, right, I mean every team flips the

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<v Speaker 1>rocks every two or four years. Yeah, so hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember you must happen all the time, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>with Tampa Bay twice as well, right, so yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's and even being here in Houston now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's not many guys that were here when

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<v Speaker 1>I was first year. Besides what weeks us a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys in the locker room that I've played on

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<v Speaker 1>different teams, played with different teams. So it's m that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the nature of being in the league. Ross is

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<v Speaker 1>a real fluid, So you get to play with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the guys and um, sometimes you get to

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<v Speaker 1>play against them too. More from our minicamp visit with

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<v Speaker 1>Dare and the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. Okay, from Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>You w at the University of Wisconsin. I was worn

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour north of Green Bay, so I lived

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<v Speaker 1>there for ten eleven years for it got here. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Badgers the talking, my heart shrinks a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to make a case for the Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>Badgers to be RBU. You said, this isn't a visual thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got RB you tattered on my should. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that. I feel like that's my case right there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's obvious. Man. We we We've done it

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, one after another. Man, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can start my freshman we had Monti Ball, James White,

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<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon, me, Corey Clement, Jonathan Taylor. Now we got

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<v Speaker 1>Braylan Out. I mean just back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense. So um people they have their

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<v Speaker 1>arguments on different teams, different schools, but I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's pretty obvious. I mean because we got

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<v Speaker 1>fullbacks too. Man, we got other ging gold in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Wadden league. We got fullbacks too, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty obvious. It's ru And even before you guys too,

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<v Speaker 1>even before you you had uh Anthony Davis. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the listen, Like I said, I was a starting endless

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<v Speaker 1>freshman year. So yeah, we we. I mean the list

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<v Speaker 1>is in this. Like you said, Brian Calhoun, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>dog so we just said dogs, man. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's RVU. Obviously, Ron Dane had almost eight hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>here in two thousand and seven. So if we get

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<v Speaker 1>that from you this year, awesome. Daria go with us,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, hurry up, offense. A couple of off field

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<v Speaker 1>questions for you, Ready to go all right sport you

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<v Speaker 1>would be playing professionally if it wasn't football, soccer. Soccer's

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<v Speaker 1>who's your soccer squad? It was always PSG because I

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<v Speaker 1>was a loathing fan. But now I kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like all the teams just some. Yeah, there's some so

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<v Speaker 1>many good players now it's kind of hard to just

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<v Speaker 1>pick one. All right, other profession other than being a

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete, what are you doing if you're not playing

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<v Speaker 1>professional football? I'll probably say coach. I'll probably ye, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a basketball coach. I love basketball too, so i'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably be like a basketball high basketball coach. Follow wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>playing football right now? Okay, cheat food burgers? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you say you're born in Wisconsin covers man burger. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking it every day. Yeah, absolutely, What about these cheese

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>kurds or whatever? Who what do you mean about these?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Get into overrated digital

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<v Speaker 1>food kidding, just kidding, sorry, sorry, one more for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me two or three musical artists you really like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big afrobease guys, I'm gonna say burn a

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<v Speaker 1>boy um wiz kid. And then you can't go around

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<v Speaker 1>with the saying Beyonce. So I'm gonna say, show Houston aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, you said you're a basketball guy, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of the words for you, either Michael

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<v Speaker 1>or Lebron. Oh, you're trying to give the fans to

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<v Speaker 1>pick size on me already. I'm gonna I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron just because I mean people that say Michael, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch them. Okay, I don't want to. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be that guy like Michael Jordan. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched the Floor. I'm in the Michael demographic.

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<v Speaker 1>But I say Lebron. It's Michael Michael, Michael Michael. Would

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<v Speaker 1>he crushed you like in a competitive battle, Mike go

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<v Speaker 1>with Like Michael didn't have to score thirty to beat you,

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<v Speaker 1>but he would find the way that he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>beat you. That's like the description of Magic Johnson too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>magic could do that. You can throw magic in. That

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<v Speaker 1>documentary is pretty good, by the Yeah, very very good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's one. Build your football team around one Jannie or Johannis. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going like rookie year yannas versus rookie year

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<v Speaker 1>jobs talking right now? You build your football team? Football

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<v Speaker 1>football team? Oh, then I'll probably go with jobs job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably say joh, I mean you can you could

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<v Speaker 1>probably put him on offensive or defense, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>you want to build the team. But Yannest would be

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<v Speaker 1>a red zone threat, would be a dog in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone. You're right, tight end receiver, throw them a

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<v Speaker 1>jump ball. You gotta get to the red zone. But

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<v Speaker 1>you got Wisconsin running back, so you can get to

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone. Then you just throw it the hand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're right. I don't think you can go wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with either one of them. Don't you feel there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about football though that some of these are even

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<v Speaker 1>the best athletes in the world, don't get as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the contact, the collision, it's a completely different sport. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a growing up. I played a lot of sports,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just one. What I always say, the team

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of football is unlike any other sport just because

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<v Speaker 1>you I mean, you can be a number one draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the NBA and change the whole trajector you

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<v Speaker 1>have an organization, but a football I mean, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>number one running back picked in the draft, not doing

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<v Speaker 1>much if you ain't got a good old line. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the whole the whole team aspect of football

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<v Speaker 1>is completely different than any other sport. But like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>this contact is a lot different to you can't replicate

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<v Speaker 1>that another does that kind of go along with your

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<v Speaker 1>point about Trevor and that not to criticize the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>as a squad, but that it takes more than just

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<v Speaker 1>a good young quarterback to turn a team. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually not a one year flip, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. When you have a high talent like that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot more than just like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it just takes a lot more than just a once

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<v Speaker 1>in a generational player in football. All Right, Darry, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for joining us, Good luck, but sure it

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<v Speaker 1>nice to be here. Guys. There's Dario La visiting with

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<v Speaker 1>Dods during cab in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>we go back to the Where Are They Now? Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>series with Drew Doherty and Jay Foreman, who I've used

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<v Speaker 1>on Texans Radio in the early days of Texans Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>which is actually about ten years ago as somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>a commentator. But Jay doesn't live in the market, so

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<v Speaker 1>that made it a little tough. But He's really sharp

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<v Speaker 1>on analyzing NFL stuff and of course sharp about talking

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>about Hey Sharper, I just fell into that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Sharper was a tackling machine. Jay Foreman was a

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<v Speaker 1>tackling machine. This defense brought it in the early years

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<v Speaker 1>of Houston Texans history and Jay visits Withdrew next here

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<v Speaker 1>on Texans Radio final segment tonight we go back to

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the Where Are They Now podcast series with Drew Doherty

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>visiting with Texans past. That would be Jay Foreman, member

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<v Speaker 1>of that legends community and we've seen him around over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. Like I said at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>last segment, I just want to set this up for

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<v Speaker 1>you like this, Jay and Jamie Sharper were outstanding linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>for this team in the early going inside linebackers in

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<v Speaker 1>the VIC Fangio coached three to four with Kylie Wong

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<v Speaker 1>outside and Jeff Posey as well at outside linebacker. Posey

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<v Speaker 1>would lead the team in sacks in year one and

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting a big free agent contract at the

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<v Speaker 1>time with the Buffalo Bills going into year two. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's set this defense up for you. Gary Walker, Seth Payne,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry DeLoach on the defensive line Kylie Jay, Foreman, Jamie

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Sharper and posey and linebacker. Then in the secondary pro

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>bowler Aaron Glenn. He made it the inaugural year. Marcus Coleman,

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<v Speaker 1>who we heard from last night in the Way Are

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 1>They Now? Series segment. Eric Brown is still around as

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<v Speaker 1>a Texans Legends community member at safety along with Matt Stevens,

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<v Speaker 1>who was at the end of his career with the Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually got paralyzed at a motorcycle accident in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven, but regained movement as of two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven best I could tell for my web research.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was the defense and they finished right in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the past in year one, despite the

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that the offense had all sorts of struggles, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>starting as many as six rookies. But Jay was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of this defense make no mistake, tackling machine,

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like I said, and Drew Doherty had a nice visit

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<v Speaker 1>with him. And though Where Are They Now? Podcast series,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been way too long. I think it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>during Andre Johnson's Ring of Honor weekend and seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>before that we'd see it training camp from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're looking good. How are you? What's going on

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>these days? Where are you and what are you doing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back in my original stopping grounds in Lincoln, Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working for a company called Midwest Holding, so

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of just helped them out with their marketing

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<v Speaker 1>and sales a little bit. So I've been doing that

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, coach a little bit of youth basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>and every once in a while go down and help

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<v Speaker 1>with the Husker football team. Mainly this year I went

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<v Speaker 1>down there quite quite a bit. So just kind of

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>stay stay busy, man. And you know, health is, you know,

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>decent for the most part. You know, still got you

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<v Speaker 1>know obviously neck and back in juries, but nothing uh,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, out of the norm. So just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>live life and you know it is man, Just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to uh, you know, I enjoy watching football now and

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to get ready to get those hits all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So these dudes are moving at you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to think people thought when I played,

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<v Speaker 1>I was moving that fast, But these dudes look like

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving a lot faster than I ever did. Well,

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you were moving quick, quickly, you were moving fast in

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<v Speaker 1>those days, for sure. Two thousand and six was I

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<v Speaker 1>guess your last year that you played in a regular

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 1>season game. You just mentioned it was fun or it

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<v Speaker 1>is fun watching games? Was that immediate? Did it? Were

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you able to watch like in two thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 1>without you know, kind of having man Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, I didn't watch football or

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<v Speaker 1>do anything with football for like two or three years.

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't. I mean, I'm talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch high school, college or prosum you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've never ever been injured. And I got hurt

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>my last year at Houston and never seem to be

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>able to get back on track, and then kind of

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>bounced around last you know, a couple of years and

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>hurt my neck real bad. So you never leave and

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't leave the game, not even close how I'd like,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and most of us don't um and so you know,

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to figure stuff out. But you know, me

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>coming back to Nebraska, uh, periodotically kind of rekindled that

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and then that, you know, led me when I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>down to training camp every year, did a little bit

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of media stuff when they had Comcast sports Net, and

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>did some stuff with Texans and they did. Texans have

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>always done a good job with us original Texans or

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>any alumni, keeping us involved when we're in town. So yeah, um,

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, so then that it kind of you know, um,

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, snowball from there. And now I'll get this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I do get a free moment, I

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>can watch a good game. I definitely sit down them

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and then watched it from a fan's perspective. More from

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>True Jordy's podcast with Jay Foreman from the Where Are

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>They Now? Series? So you're in Lincoln, you were playing

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>for the Huskers. You guys were no joke man, I

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>mean y'all were one of the bullies and college football.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it like, you said, you help out with a team.

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>What sort of stuff do you do, and what's it like,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, being in Lincoln and and seeing the team

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>now whichus what it was like when you were there, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's a it's a drastic difference of obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the record yea, um, but you know, it's good to

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>be around. And the only thing I'm not down there

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<v Speaker 1>like a full time no way by a coach or

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>just volunteer. He once in a while. What I try

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<v Speaker 1>to do is work with the players from a mental standpoint,

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of focusing and understand that you know,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you only get to play this game a short time. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's like what under one percent

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that guys would make it and in the stay a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer than they're supposed to do for you know,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting you know, your veteran status in the NFL.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So I try to get them to understand maximize your opportunity, um,

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of it. And it's more from the mental side,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and um, mainly that was this year and as far

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>as the team goes, you know, obviously they're just uh,

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of transition, you know because when I

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>was here, coach Osborne was here. It's kind of like

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban is now at Alabama month and that's how

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>we played and so you know, obviously it brings back

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>good memories watching them. And then Scott you know, who

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is a former teammate of mine, is trying to get

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>it back on the right track. So it's been very

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>frustrating as an alumni, just because I'm not used to

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>seeing Nebraska lose at this rate. But I think they're

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>on the right track. So you know, I just try

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to look. I always try to tell player, any players,

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a rookie or somebody that's you know, playing

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL aspirations even college or high school to college,

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>what I did good, what I wish I would have

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe done different, where I kind of ran into a

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit of speed bumps, and maybe if I heard

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>a story or two that may correlate to what they're doing.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like that's one of the best ways

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that I can give back is help people if they

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>if it could help one player maybe have a good

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>or better experience playing football, or maybe last a year

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>or two longer in the NFL, then that's what you're

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. Because you know, when I was growing up,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I was fortunate enough that my dad was a pretty

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>prominent player in his time. Not even biased. I think

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you should probably get in the in the Hall of Fame,

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>not there yet, but I was able to be exposed

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of guys that he played with and

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>played against, so just all the different events and stuff,

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and so that's what you know. It kind of really

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>made my transition a little bit easier going from college

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>or from high school to college. College, the pros. So

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I felt I always told myself if I ever was

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>in a position like that and people ask my advice

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>or thought I could help out in any way, that's

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the least that you can do, is just trying to

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>help out because it's hard to do. Man. It's a

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, playing just playing a game at the NFL

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>level is accomplishment. And then when you're talking about putting

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>a career together and trying to be successful because the

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>competition isn't thick. So that's kind of what I'm doing

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>down there in Nebraska, or did last year. And you know,

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if I go back this year, I think,

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously they haven't even got back in school yet,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>so it's nothing that's going to be on the horizon.

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, mainly it's a you know, I'm good

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to try to help out the game as much as possible.

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Continuing with the Where Are They Now Series podcast, Route

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Doherty visiting the Jay Foreman. Yeah, you just brought this

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this interviews about you, but you just brought up your father,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Foreman, running back. For those that don't know the

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies, the Minnesota Vikings, I mean they were one

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.919
<v Speaker 1>of the Krem de La Krem in the NFL during

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 1>that period, playing in a lot of Super Bowls. So, yeah,

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you're right, your dad is one of the greats, and

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>he does deserve a lot more consideration, for sure. Tell

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>me about coming into the NFL. You leave Nebraska, you

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>go to the Buffalo Bills. Steadily you get better year

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 1>by year. You spent three years with him. Your final

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>year there you get over one hundred tackles and then

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you are in original Texan but you're not. Everybody knows this.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>You were traded to the Texans. So what was that like?

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that transition, because I think people people assume,

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, they saw what you did with the Texas.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You were one of the leaders on that great defense.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We can say it now. It was a great defense

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>wins and losses. It didn't translate because of some stuff

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>going on on the offensive side the boat. You guys

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>were a hell of a defense. You were one of

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>their leaders, but you were not one of the expansion draftees. Right. Yeah.

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what funny is the Internet it was very

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>uh immature at that sea. I think you know, you

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>know where you you know. The whole thing is you know,

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you can try to get right, you try to build

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>yourself up and then maybe get a tender at that time,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>which is uh, you know, a fourth year contract. I

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>was a late round draft choice and and like you said,

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>steady worked my way up, played a few games my

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>rookie years, started a lot in my second year, got

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a new coach, did pretty well, you know. And then

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that you could get on the internet

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 1>back then, and we had dial up, you know, so

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>we had no no Wi Fi, was to get on

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I think a website kaffl dot com and you know

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>that's where you get your free agency news. And so

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the expansion Draft went. Um, they usually had to notify

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you whether you were going to be in it, and

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I never got notified because I was a restricted free agent,

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>so they really couldn't, but they could. And um, so

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, they signed a veteran linebacker that had previous

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>experience with coach Williams who was the coach at Buffalo

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>at the time, Greg Williams. So I was kind of

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in limbo. But you know, my agent was like, you

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>go back there and maybe they'll switch your positions and

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you'll play. And went out there for like the first,

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like kind of mini camp Otason. They said, before you

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>step out here, it's gonna let you know, we just

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>traded you for Charlie Rodgers. And then, um, you know,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>next thing, you know, I think that night or that

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>very next morning, I was on my way to Houston,

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>which you know, I'd only been down to Texas playing

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and playing in college and so we played down in

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>San Antonio in the Big Twelfth Championship. But I've never

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>really been to Texas and I but I played with

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>tons of guys from Texas, and you hear I always

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>say this, guys from Texas, it's always bigger and better,

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and when you get there. I didn't even realize Houston

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>at that time it was the third largest city in

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole of the United States, you know, so I'm

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>learning on the fly let alone. When I left Buffalo,

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it was considering a hot day. I think it was

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>like sixty eight degrees and Sonny get down in Houston,

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it was it was it was ninety degrees,

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent humidity, and Don was the coach. I didn't

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>really know what was going on. The best thing I

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>think that could have happened to me was Chris Brown

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>what had just signed as a free agent, I think

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>from Pittsburgh as a kicker. Me and him played together,

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's good. You have a familiar face. Even though

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>he's a kicker. He you know, obviously we're not in

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>the same you know, position group room, but you still

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.439
<v Speaker 1>know him and you've been knowing each other since we've

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>been eighteen. And then I knew Collie Wong because in

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the offseason I lived in Minneapolis and he came down

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>from the Vikings. So at least I had some guys

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to and converse, and I knew all

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the players that they picked up, you know, just you know,

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>they were all you know, Seth Payne, Jamis Sharper, Aaron Glenn,

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Coleman, Gary Walker, so fourth and so on. So like,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, look at to be a you know, good

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>situation or you know, playing with some good players. Got

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>down here and you know, they threw me in the fire.

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Herring was my linebacker coach. And if you know

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>anything about Reggie, he is definitely intense. And the good

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that I didn't know until, you know, middle of

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the first season, was he knew my linebacker coach in Buffalo.

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>They must have coached together, so he knew kind of

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>what buttons to push, and Reggie brought out the best

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in me. Man, and I love Reggie to this day.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I still, you know, text with him, you know, three

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>or four times a year, and we really dove in.

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I got to learn the defense, which was you know,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>very very complex defense, a Dom Kaper's three four defense.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>But once I got there, I kind of felt like

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I took off individually and it allowed me to prosper

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>not only as a player, but then also as a leader,

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, be more, you know, be a voice. Grow up.

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I was still was a fourth year player, so you

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta think Jamie Sharper was a Super Bowl champion. Aaron

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Glenn was a numerous time pro bowler. Marcus Coleman should

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>have Gary Walker's ment a pro bowler. Saith Plane was

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>really really good, and so I had to find my way.

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But then once I got in there, and I figured,

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the best thing that I can do is

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>show up early every day, work my tail off, produce

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and everything else as far as them under you know,

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>welcoming me as the leader. When you're the middle linebacker

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and the play caller, you're just a you're the de

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>facto leader, whether you like it or not. And then

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of was a perfect marriage, man, And

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>we played hard for each other. We played, you know,

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great football the first two years, and

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>we're injuries hit us in the third year, and I

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>love those guys. You know. We went through some times

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>together where you know, the offense was very lean and

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a new team, you know, and you were kind

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of you know, new organization, but that we had a

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of support organizational and wise and fan base wise.

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>So so that was really good. But you know, we

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>had to take it on the chin. And every time

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>we see Houston have success, you kind of feel like

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you have a little bit invested in it because you know,

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>we were the original guys. And they make us feel

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>at home too, you know, when you come back and stuff,

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and all the players that they've or that I've ever

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>became in you know, contact with, you know afterwards, are

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>really really good. So I always look back at Houston

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 1>as a secondary home. If I didn't live in Nebraska,

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I definitely live in Houston. I love going back there.

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I miss it, you know obviously now during the winter

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>here in Nebraska. But I love the city of Houston,

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.439
<v Speaker 1>nothing but fond memories. Um. Some of my best friends

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>are down there and UM and I made a lot

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of great friends that I still talk to. UM and

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>we're you know, I hadn't been down there for quite

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>some time, but every time we see each other, Uh,

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>it's we start right over. Like when I see Fred Weary.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I love. I love going back to Alumni week weekend

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing Eric Brown because he's the guy, he's the he's

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the one of the best personalities, the character man and

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Kenny Wright, you know, you see him, Mary Corey, Bradford, UM.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And then Fred Weary. I love seeing Fred. I mean

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>because we used the butt heads all the time. UM,

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>but he's a guy, A tremendous amount of respect for

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>him as a player, as a person. But we had

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>it even though we obviously didn't win as much as

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.399
<v Speaker 1>we thought we should or could or whatever the situation was.

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>It was never from a lack of effort um or

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>or or you know, trying to do the right thing.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And we really bonded. I mean, you gotta think to

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>take the leap of faith, whether you got picked up

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>in the expansive draft or traded ideally it's not probably

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>where you want to go as a as sending player. Um,

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 1>but you get down there and you make it work,

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and you start to build relationships, and you go through

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the grind and you make it the first year, second

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>third year, you know, you kind of start to have

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a good foundation, and you know, one of the things

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I wish they could have done was maybe let us

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>try to do it one more year, because I felt

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like we could have got a little bit more healthy

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>on defense obviously in few some draft choices or whatever

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>they did, and Andre was really starting to take off

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and we started to kind of get a little bit

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 1>better on that side of the ball and stuff like that.

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I think we could have really did some things. But

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously it worked out, you know, obviously shortly after that

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and they made the playoffs numerous times, which was great

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to see because definitely the city of Houston definitely, you know,

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously deserved, you know, obviously a winner, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always you see it right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>got got my Houston jersey here and Buffalo there. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I played two more seasons for Giants in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are the only two that I have framed

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<v Speaker 1>and I always, you know, think of the Houston first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, even um, you know we're drafted by the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills. Former Texans linebacker Texans Legends community member Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Foreman visiting with Drew Doherty as part of the War

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<v Speaker 1>They Now podcast series. And you can get all of

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<v Speaker 1>that good stuff on Houston Texans dot com and the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans app, all of our podcasts, all of these shows,

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<v Speaker 1>all the videos from our Emmy Award winning video crew. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all there. And the articles too, including mine on

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<v Speaker 1>the five most Prolific Texans Villains enfranchise history from this

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<v Speaker 1>past Wednesday. So enjoy that. A lot to go over

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<v Speaker 1>next week, Johnny, We'll be back, will be on Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do It. Have a great weekend everyone, Thanks for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and go Texans.