Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. We have another
Speaker 1: summer Special's week special for you players past in present,
Speaker 1: Texans Legends community members. Tonight it is going to be
Speaker 1: Jay Foreman, tackling machine from the early days of Texans history.
Speaker 1: Great guy as well, and other than that, a potpourri
Speaker 1: of running backs. Maybe I could come up with a
Speaker 1: better word, a Shmorga's board of running backs. How about
Speaker 1: an assortment of running backs? That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: And a reminder, this is a legal issue, suspension issue,
Speaker 1: hearing issue free zone here tonight. Of course I have
Speaker 1: plenty of thoughts on everything, we'll get to those later.
Speaker 1: This is about players past and present for your Houston Texans,
Speaker 1: and there's no better way to start this running back
Speaker 1: assortment we have than with a player who used to
Speaker 1: play for the Nemesis Boy. I did a daily brew
Speaker 1: this week on All Time Texans Villains. We covered this
Speaker 1: on Monday with Johnny on the show, and three of
Speaker 1: those top five slots were occupied by Colts Peyton, Manning,
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton, and we gave one slot to the
Speaker 1: Lennon and McCartney of Backfield Torment, Mathis and Freeney those
Speaker 1: two went in as a pair all time Texans villains.
Speaker 1: If you're curious about the others, go to Houston Texans
Speaker 1: dot com and the Texans app and read the story
Speaker 1: Daily Brew from Wednesday. Anyway, this player, Marlon Mack also
Speaker 1: participated in some big ones against the Houston Texans in
Speaker 1: the Royal Blue, including his performance in the playoff victory
Speaker 1: for Indie to cap the twenty eighteenth season. And I
Speaker 1: mean cap at a variety of ways here, ouch, but
Speaker 1: Mac is now a Texan and looks spry at OTA's
Speaker 1: great to have him on the squad. Of course, when
Speaker 1: Johnny and I sat down with him at mini camp
Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, it was going to
Speaker 1: be interesting for me. Feeling the way I do about Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get emotional about this one. Marlon Mack is
Speaker 1: with us, all right, just so you know, and welcome
Speaker 1: to the Texans. I hate the Colts like poison in
Speaker 1: a healthy football sports way. So it's great to have
Speaker 1: you on our team now because I'm tired of you
Speaker 1: doing the damage you've done against the Texans and that
Speaker 1: whole franchise. So welcome, thank you, thank you. Glad to
Speaker 1: be here. Can you help us get over the hump
Speaker 1: on them? I mean, all right, good good, I'm glad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When we think about Marlon Mack and we heard that
Speaker 1: we were signing you, the first thing we thought about,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that playoff game and then I send
Speaker 1: us down a rabbit hole in that playoff game where
Speaker 1: you just went absolutely nuts at that particular point. The
Speaker 1: last couple of years, you've had a few injuries. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've probably heard that along the way, and so
Speaker 1: people are like, what's he got left? I ask Marlon
Speaker 1: mac Yeah, what you got left? I think I got
Speaker 1: a lot left, man. Uh. This past few year has
Speaker 1: just been tough for me. But last year I just
Speaker 1: didn't get that chance. And now I'm here with the Texans.
Speaker 1: They just gotta work. Hopefully I get that chance here,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to do what I do. What's the
Speaker 1: system like for you? How do you see your fit
Speaker 1: in this system? What can you tell the fans about
Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like. Uh, definitely gonna be good
Speaker 1: for me, hopefully breaking a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: the arts, a lot of touchdowns, That's what that's been playing.
Speaker 1: And uh, hopefully I do that bring some assitement to
Speaker 1: the football team. When you were growing up a did
Speaker 1: if you always played running back and be as you're
Speaker 1: playing running back. Was there any particular guy that you
Speaker 1: looked after looked at college or pro that you were like,
Speaker 1: that's the guy I want to be. Like? Uh, so
Speaker 1: I played a play defense, play safety, Yeah, growing up,
Speaker 1: Uh love safety, but then I just fell a love
Speaker 1: running the ball growing up watching ap you know, was
Speaker 1: one of the guys. I watched a lot of Percy
Speaker 1: Harmon in college. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was he
Speaker 1: was excitement. Uh, that's what I loved to watch him
Speaker 1: go in there and watch people highlighting go out there
Speaker 1: and do what they do. All right, So let me
Speaker 1: take you back to Indy. Sorry, Uh, what was the
Speaker 1: biggest divisional rival when you look at the Jags, the
Speaker 1: Titans and the Texans? Who do the cults see as
Speaker 1: a big rival or is it all kind of the
Speaker 1: same to that? Uh? It was definitely all the same
Speaker 1: because like coach, you couldn't we couldn't win in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: for nothing. Um, Texas, you know, you you go get
Speaker 1: a good game no matter what. Defense was always good
Speaker 1: and um Jackson Tennessee. It was like a back and forth.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I think with this division. You
Speaker 1: never know who you're gonna beat with weak because you
Speaker 1: never know man easy weak is like always a battle
Speaker 1: with these guys. The reason I asked you about who
Speaker 1: you watched is there's a there's a patience. Now we're
Speaker 1: watching without pass, but we've seen you play. It's like
Speaker 1: a patience level to your run until you get to
Speaker 1: a point where there it is boom, I'm gone. Like
Speaker 1: you have this patient level even back to the USF
Speaker 1: And I was actually watching this morning that we were
Speaker 1: talking to you, going back and reminding you, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: number five, okay, and watching you hit the gas once
Speaker 1: you got beyondline scrimmage. But there was kind of levion
Speaker 1: bell patient, I'm gonna find my hole, and then when
Speaker 1: I find I'm gonna make you pay. How would you
Speaker 1: describe your running style us more of a patience but
Speaker 1: once that that time and tick off, you gotta hit
Speaker 1: it kind of like slow show, slow go yause that's
Speaker 1: what I learned coming to this league, man and watching
Speaker 1: Frank Gore in front of me, who actually just retired
Speaker 1: fights to legend, but just watching him be patient, but
Speaker 1: once he hit it, he hit it. Yeah, he went hard.
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of helped my game. And when
Speaker 1: I came into him and I had learned be patient,
Speaker 1: slow it down a little bit, but then go and
Speaker 1: that's when I used that speeds and get through the whole.
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack with us so far in your career, you've
Speaker 1: been around a bunch of different quarterbacks with one franchise,
Speaker 1: but a lot of guys have been through that door.
Speaker 1: So what are you seeing in young Davis Mills here
Speaker 1: as he enters year two? And I know it's your
Speaker 1: first interaction with him in offseason practices, but how has
Speaker 1: that been for you? What are you seeing in the
Speaker 1: young quarterback? Big steps, this leadership out of him. He
Speaker 1: got that that leadership that all qbs need, leads us,
Speaker 1: getting guys in the right formation, right play, makes you
Speaker 1: guys know what they're doing, and that what you need
Speaker 1: in a quarterback. Man. That leadership, that leading guys, that's
Speaker 1: leading by example, telling us make sure everybody in the
Speaker 1: right direction, going know to play and being on point. Man,
Speaker 1: that's what I see, am, Marlon. We love Houston, we
Speaker 1: love Texas, but Mark was the play by play voice
Speaker 1: in Miami Hurricanes. I coached in Northeast Florida, so we
Speaker 1: know there's something a little different about players, especially those
Speaker 1: from the South Florida area. What is it? How do
Speaker 1: you describe it? We see so many players around the
Speaker 1: league that are from the South Florida area, as for
Speaker 1: Lauderdale or you know, down in Miami Dade County. Whatever
Speaker 1: it is? Why, what's what's in the water, what's in
Speaker 1: the sauce? What what makes that area so rich with
Speaker 1: ball players? Uh do not know. Man. For many years,
Speaker 1: I always wondered. But it's just like we just we're
Speaker 1: born into it. I guess we live it, we sweated,
Speaker 1: we just we just grew up playing it so much
Speaker 1: and we love it. Man, I don't know. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of us, and there's a bunch of time
Speaker 1: of down there. So whatever was in the water keep
Speaker 1: being in the order. Did you know when did you
Speaker 1: know I'm going to the league? When did you know, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is my goal? And then b I can get
Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna get there. I won't even lie, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize it to Like my sophomore year in college,
Speaker 1: I just went through it. I was just playing a
Speaker 1: game to join it. Um sophomore year after I racked
Speaker 1: up but like my uh my freshman year, I did
Speaker 1: two thousand. Second year I did two thousand. Again, I
Speaker 1: had like thirteen hundred. I was like, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: think I got a chance, and I just got to
Speaker 1: keep improving. And that's why I belieeding myself. I knew
Speaker 1: I could do it. Why did you pick South Florida
Speaker 1: fifteen years earlier? It might have been Florida, Florida State, Miami,
Speaker 1: but then South Florida comes up and sent from Florida,
Speaker 1: there are other options that are attractive. What attracted you
Speaker 1: to South Florida? South Florida was was kind of there
Speaker 1: from the start. Um. They believed in me. I believed
Speaker 1: in the program. I wanted to help it get back
Speaker 1: to what it was. And uh, coach Billy tagger Man,
Speaker 1: he was in my ear and uh he was just like, man,
Speaker 1: let's get his back to program to what it was
Speaker 1: ranking them between the nation. Man, I believe that on
Speaker 1: that route a Raccoon class that year was in one
Speaker 1: of the tops in the nation. And Uh, I believed
Speaker 1: in all of us, and I belied in the school.
Speaker 1: I wanted to help temple areas that kind of out
Speaker 1: Florida area actually bring up the school, and that's what
Speaker 1: we did. All right, to either or as you're ready,
Speaker 1: this is pretty simple. Okay, it's just either or what
Speaker 1: you use an iPhone android phone? Okay? Good? Would you
Speaker 1: rather be miked up for a full game or sing
Speaker 1: your favorite karaoke song at a karaoke bar? I'll be
Speaker 1: mike full full. Nobody's picked singing, nobody's picked singing karaoke? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: The only pizza you can have is pineapple pizza. That's it,
Speaker 1: or never having pizza ever. I have the pineapple pizza.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a big fan of it, but
Speaker 1: you'll have it. I have it. Okay. Would you take
Speaker 1: the pineapple pieces off the pizza before eating it? Or
Speaker 1: leave on some days once I get tired of I
Speaker 1: would figuring out? Yeah, exactly? Exist shoes a J one
Speaker 1: or AJ elevens. Yeah, okay. Now we've asked this a
Speaker 1: few times, gotten some different answers. Business dress, but it's
Speaker 1: not it's not like a business event. But you gotta
Speaker 1: have busines his dress off? Maybe travel? Yeah, traveling? Good?
Speaker 1: You weren't clean Jordan's or you weren't some leather dress shoes.
Speaker 1: It depends when I'm feeling like the sauce that day. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I might go I'm I'm an joy one guy
Speaker 1: first though, okay, and then I'll probably switch it up sometimes. See,
Speaker 1: I think Jordan once can go with a lot of
Speaker 1: different dresses, right, you know, like suits and such. I
Speaker 1: believe that too. Different color ways. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: have some fun with that. Yeah, you definitely have different
Speaker 1: color ways. Gotta go. Uh, the low top man, the
Speaker 1: low top one. All right? One more for you, okay?
Speaker 1: One hundred degrees or thirty degrees degrees? All right, easily,
Speaker 1: that's the guy, Texas guy joining us. Good lot, Thank you. There.
Speaker 1: It was a Marlin mac Attack and the Hunday Texans
Speaker 1: radio studio. Hey, Marlin Macattack. I might be able to
Speaker 1: use that this season. I hope I get to a lot.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's continue with running backs. Royce Freeman. We
Speaker 1: visited with him around Mini Camp as well. You might
Speaker 1: remember he showed up during the campaign last year, and
Speaker 1: he burst out of the scene in the NFL in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with the Denver Broncos. Here he is talking
Speaker 1: about the adjustment to year two in Houston great. I mean,
Speaker 1: just getting to know more of the staff and the
Speaker 1: players that a return and you know, getting to the
Speaker 1: flow of things, like you said, being able to get
Speaker 1: a full offseason. I mean, it's very exciting. I'm just
Speaker 1: excited to be here. How important is that to be
Speaker 1: more comfortable if you will, You're coming last year, You're like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where the bathroom is. Now you're
Speaker 1: here for a year. How much more comfortable do you feel?
Speaker 1: And how much how much more important is that for you?
Speaker 1: Very important? And also, like I said, being able to
Speaker 1: learn from the staff, learn the staff and the players,
Speaker 1: you know, get associated with them. But being able to
Speaker 1: have that full offseason of work, being able to show
Speaker 1: the capabilities, work with the training staff, work with the
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning staff. So I mean all positive for
Speaker 1: your position, Royce. How different is this system with Pep
Speaker 1: Hamilton as the coordinator versus what you got last year
Speaker 1: with the Texans. Honestly, we're kind of similar in a way.
Speaker 1: I think we're doing a good job of going ahead
Speaker 1: and exploiting our weapons we have on offense, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think we're trying to be able to get
Speaker 1: the weapons the ball and go out there and just
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on the defense, just like
Speaker 1: I said, exploit, exploit them. This offseason. What was the
Speaker 1: biggest thing that you wanted to work on for you personally, Like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I've got to be able to do this.
Speaker 1: I'll work on this this offseason or was it I
Speaker 1: gotta get better at everything. I'm just gonna do what
Speaker 1: I've done in the past years. Yeah, I agree with
Speaker 1: with the ladder. Just being able to do everything I've
Speaker 1: done in the past, but at a higher level. I mean,
Speaker 1: being a jack of all trades. Basically, anything they asked
Speaker 1: me to do, the staff, the coaching staff, I want
Speaker 1: to be able to do and I want to succeed
Speaker 1: and excel at that. I mean just from special teams
Speaker 1: all the way to um actual pass protections, running the ball.
Speaker 1: So anything to ask the me, like I said, being
Speaker 1: able to excel at that. Well. And OTA's mini camp
Speaker 1: no contact. Really there's some contact, but it's not like
Speaker 1: you guys are hitting and taking people to the ground
Speaker 1: and things like that. But what can you get better
Speaker 1: at right now? And then talk about the rookies too,
Speaker 1: or a rookie back like Daby and Pierce trying to
Speaker 1: get adjusted to the NFL. You were a rookie at
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and had some success. What was the key
Speaker 1: to that. I think everyone can get better at Like
Speaker 1: you said, it's a new offense, so just slowing it down,
Speaker 1: being able to learn the ins and outs of it,
Speaker 1: you know, and that'll come over time. But especially as
Speaker 1: a rookie relating back to my rookie year, it just
Speaker 1: feels like a whole whole different world. You know, you
Speaker 1: have guys who are the best of the best. They
Speaker 1: let you know. The coaches did a great job of
Speaker 1: building this team up and we have some great players
Speaker 1: and just dp Damien, he's done a great job of
Speaker 1: just learning and taking everything from the veteran leaders in
Speaker 1: the group and excited to see him grow. He's definitely
Speaker 1: been able to grasp everything and helping him out along
Speaker 1: the way. Rus We talked about this a lot when
Speaker 1: new coaching staff ticks over or new coordinator ticks so
Speaker 1: we rough it's a new offense and it's a new defense,
Speaker 1: and a lot is made of that because we talked
Speaker 1: about the NFL game being so complicated, all the verbiage
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. What does it really
Speaker 1: like to learn a new offense? Honestly, they're they're all
Speaker 1: kind of similar in a way. I mean, I've learned
Speaker 1: a couple since I've been in the league, But I
Speaker 1: think with repetition and more exposure, the easier and the
Speaker 1: quicker it is to learn it. You know, you just
Speaker 1: got to dive into the books. You gotta get with
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, you know, Um, they're the ones soaking up everyone. Um,
Speaker 1: the knowledge of you know, everybody's responsibility and things like that,
Speaker 1: picking the brains of your position, coach and the offensive coordinator. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, diving into it full forest is the best method. Honestly.
Speaker 1: What are you seeing from Davis Mills going into his
Speaker 1: second year as the leader of the offense? I feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean like I was just partially here last year,
Speaker 1: but um, and what I've seen, he's more comfortable. Um,
Speaker 1: he's he's exuding in that leadership role. UM, looking to
Speaker 1: him for guiding especially offensively, you know, knowing everyone's responsibility,
Speaker 1: and I'm just excited to see him excel playing wise.
Speaker 1: So you're a callie guy, right, I am san Diego right? Uh?
Speaker 1: In prero Valley, technically two hours east of San Diego. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, down in the desert. So but you're callie guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah desert. Yeah, that's a crazy ride, bro. I did
Speaker 1: that last year from Houston San Diego. Like where like
Speaker 1: the are you in the like huge mountains and all that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I tell people, you know, you leave the mountains of
Speaker 1: San Diego as you're getting into you know, palm Desert,
Speaker 1: into into the valley as we call it. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you think your loss, just keep going and it's
Speaker 1: will be down there valley Okay. And then you went
Speaker 1: to school in Oregon, I did, played in Denver, I did.
Speaker 1: So it's Houston last year when you got here, was
Speaker 1: that the first time, other than maybe playing a game
Speaker 1: here or traveling through here, that you had been in Houston?
Speaker 1: Was that kind of the first year introduction to Houston
Speaker 1: being here and what was that light? Coming here? Um?
Speaker 1: It was very exciting. I uh, just being around and
Speaker 1: knowing of the team, you know, um, being able to
Speaker 1: watch them as I've been in the league growing up
Speaker 1: and being a part of the organization and seeing what
Speaker 1: it's all about playing and RG playing against the conference,
Speaker 1: you know, it was very exciting. It's just like something
Speaker 1: that I was just fully embraced in and um and
Speaker 1: uh at coming here. It was just and I'm very
Speaker 1: grateful for what's Danny Barrett like in the running back room.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a great personality and everything. I
Speaker 1: know he's recovering from a knee injury or something right now,
Speaker 1: but that probably doesn't affect you guys. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he talks about that. But what is he like
Speaker 1: to be a boss? Oh, he's great, He's chill. But
Speaker 1: as as far as like being a coach, he definitely
Speaker 1: gets his point across. He wants the details, you know,
Speaker 1: he wants us to tax sell as well. So like
Speaker 1: we're out there on the field, we're working. But he
Speaker 1: has the full most trust and all of us to
Speaker 1: get the job done. And that's something I appreciate coming
Speaker 1: from a player, receiving it from a coach, just like
Speaker 1: the respect that he has for us, as you know,
Speaker 1: running backs to go out there and handle business. Our
Speaker 1: minicamp visit with Royce Freeman in the Hunday Texans Radio
Speaker 1: studio coming up another running back. He used to be
Speaker 1: a Texan, He used to be a Jaguar now he's
Speaker 1: a Texan. Keep track. Dare Ogambawali joins us, followed by
Speaker 1: Jay Foreman. Really fun interviews on the way here on
Speaker 1: the Summer Specials players past in prison for your Texans
Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access, keeping in rolling here on
Speaker 1: this Summer Special's week with Texans players passed and present,
Speaker 1: members of our legends community, and of course current players.
Speaker 1: Johnny Harris and I visited with a bunch of them
Speaker 1: during Mini camp. Let's get to this running back to
Speaker 1: running back. So far, as we heard from Marlon Mack
Speaker 1: and Royce Freeman, dari Ague has made a name for
Speaker 1: himself in this league as a special teams player who
Speaker 1: can also help out a running back. Very well, thank you,
Speaker 1: former Jaguar. But he also spend time with the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Let's get to our visit. Daria good Balle joining us
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. Did I say that correctly? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: you know why, because you were here before. Welcome home.
Speaker 1: You're finally back. So that's got to be strange. You know,
Speaker 1: you've had a little bit of a journey here between
Speaker 1: what was the twenty seventeen and now, so tell us
Speaker 1: your reaction to coming back to Houston, it was um strange.
Speaker 1: I say strange is the word. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: definitely exciting, man, just um, just the kind of a
Speaker 1: full circle type of moment type thing. Um. I loved
Speaker 1: Houston when I was here for those couple of months.
Speaker 1: I was here starting off my NFL journey and bounced around,
Speaker 1: had some success. So now being back, um with a
Speaker 1: lot of like I said, a little bit more success,
Speaker 1: a little bit more comfort in the league. It's a
Speaker 1: good feeling. So when you think back now we went
Speaker 1: to the greenbrid for training camp, so it's a little different.
Speaker 1: But when you think back to you being a rookie
Speaker 1: and you think about where you are now nine and
Speaker 1: day different, what's kind of the biggest what's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing you've probably learned about yourself about the whole process
Speaker 1: of the NFL. It's a business we all well, I
Speaker 1: mean I was gonna say that that first and foremost.
Speaker 1: I would say, it's a business man just when you're
Speaker 1: a rookie, Like it's like, I felt I was good
Speaker 1: enough to be here, but obviously there was just different
Speaker 1: things that got in the way. Um, But I was still,
Speaker 1: like I said, still in practice, squad still had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just, um, it's a lot different
Speaker 1: than you expect college and then um getting a chance
Speaker 1: to bounce around, seeing different type of coaches, seeing different
Speaker 1: locker rooms. Being back here now, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: just feel like I got a bigger grasp on what
Speaker 1: the NFL life is like, what it takes to be
Speaker 1: successful in the league. And I feel like I've kind
Speaker 1: of gotten a good, like I said, a good grasp
Speaker 1: of that. And I'm excited. I'm excited to be back here. Man.
Speaker 1: All right, Darry you're with Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville for
Speaker 1: a bit and now you're with David Smells comparing contrash. No,
Speaker 1: but tell us a little bit about what you're seeing
Speaker 1: from David so far, and if you want, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing some Trevor Lawrence information there too. Well. Trevor, like
Speaker 1: me and Trevor, we got along great. Man. Trevor was
Speaker 1: a great teammate. It was fun to be a part
Speaker 1: of that season with him. And obviously he was highly
Speaker 1: touted rookie and stuff, and Davis, I see a lot
Speaker 1: of the same talent. Man. Obviously he didn't have the
Speaker 1: same scouting report that Trevor had coming out. But Davis
Speaker 1: is talented man, He's real talented. And then he's a
Speaker 1: good leader. Man, He's a good leader. And Um, I'm
Speaker 1: excited to play with him. Um, he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of success in the league. I feel like he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot to success this year. And Um,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's just got great arm, talent, UM,
Speaker 1: great poise. He's really really smart. I mean that's Stanford stereotype.
Speaker 1: He's real smart. So yeah, like I said, I'm excited
Speaker 1: to play with him, and I can see it now
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a very successful career. As you come
Speaker 1: back to Houston, what was the biggest thing that you
Speaker 1: wanted to work on to get ready for twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I would probably say just more offense. You know, let
Speaker 1: me go, I've kind of got this role in the
Speaker 1: league now as being a special team I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of success on special teams, being special teams captain.
Speaker 1: UM just want to kind of prove that I'm a
Speaker 1: good offensive player as well. Um can make a lot
Speaker 1: of players out of the backfield, and that's just something
Speaker 1: that obviously comes with reps and things like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm definitely looking forward to being able to make some
Speaker 1: plays this year at running back. When you're facing the
Speaker 1: Texans as a Jaguar, is there anything extra, because well
Speaker 1: it all started here, and when you face Jacksonville now
Speaker 1: as a Texan, will there be anything extra? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Man, it's every every week. I mean you
Speaker 1: obviously you got your boys on the other teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: being in my six year now, I've accumulated a lot
Speaker 1: of friends in the league. So it's it's that's more
Speaker 1: so what it is, you know, just getting to know
Speaker 1: the guys that you're playing against. It's not really the
Speaker 1: organization because at the end of the day, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's a business. You can't just go around being bitter
Speaker 1: at every team. I've been cut a butt, so I
Speaker 1: can't really be like that. But now it's more so
Speaker 1: just being being excited to play against my friends on
Speaker 1: the other team, other Wisconsin guys, other Big ten guys.
Speaker 1: M just playing to get able to play against them. Well,
Speaker 1: you made a great point, because sixth year in the league,
Speaker 1: everyone's changing teams, right, I mean every team flips the
Speaker 1: rocks every two or four years. Yeah, so hey, I
Speaker 1: remember you must happen all the time, and you were
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay twice as well, right, so yeah, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's and even being here in Houston now,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not many guys that were here when
Speaker 1: I was first year. Besides what weeks us a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys in the locker room that I've played on
Speaker 1: different teams, played with different teams. So it's m that's
Speaker 1: just the nature of being in the league. Ross is
Speaker 1: a real fluid, So you get to play with a
Speaker 1: lot of the guys and um, sometimes you get to
Speaker 1: play against them too. More from our minicamp visit with
Speaker 1: Dare and the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. Okay, from Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: You w at the University of Wisconsin. I was worn
Speaker 1: about an hour north of Green Bay, so I lived
Speaker 1: there for ten eleven years for it got here. So
Speaker 1: the Badgers the talking, my heart shrinks a little bit.
Speaker 1: I want you to make a case for the Wisconsin
Speaker 1: Badgers to be RBU. You said, this isn't a visual thing,
Speaker 1: but I got RB you tattered on my should. I
Speaker 1: feel like that. I feel like that's my case right there.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's obvious. Man. We we We've done it
Speaker 1: for a long time, one after another. Man, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can start my freshman we had Monti Ball, James White,
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, me, Corey Clement, Jonathan Taylor. Now we got
Speaker 1: Braylan Out. I mean just back to back to back.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. So um people they have their
Speaker 1: arguments on different teams, different schools, but I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like it's pretty obvious. I mean because we got
Speaker 1: fullbacks too. Man, we got other ging gold in the league,
Speaker 1: Derek Wadden league. We got fullbacks too, So I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious. It's ru And even before you guys too,
Speaker 1: even before you you had uh Anthony Davis. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the listen, Like I said, I was a starting endless
Speaker 1: freshman year. So yeah, we we. I mean the list
Speaker 1: is in this. Like you said, Brian Calhoun, all right,
Speaker 1: dog so we just said dogs, man. So I think
Speaker 1: it's RVU. Obviously, Ron Dane had almost eight hundred yards
Speaker 1: here in two thousand and seven. So if we get
Speaker 1: that from you this year, awesome. Daria go with us,
Speaker 1: all right, hurry up, offense. A couple of off field
Speaker 1: questions for you, Ready to go all right sport you
Speaker 1: would be playing professionally if it wasn't football, soccer. Soccer's
Speaker 1: who's your soccer squad? It was always PSG because I
Speaker 1: was a loathing fan. But now I kind of just
Speaker 1: like all the teams just some. Yeah, there's some so
Speaker 1: many good players now it's kind of hard to just
Speaker 1: pick one. All right, other profession other than being a
Speaker 1: professional athlete, what are you doing if you're not playing
Speaker 1: professional football? I'll probably say coach. I'll probably ye, maybe
Speaker 1: like a basketball coach. I love basketball too, so i'd
Speaker 1: probably be like a basketball high basketball coach. Follow wasn't
Speaker 1: playing football right now? Okay, cheat food burgers? I mean
Speaker 1: you say you're born in Wisconsin covers man burger. I'm
Speaker 1: taking it every day. Yeah, absolutely, What about these cheese
Speaker 1: kurds or whatever? Who what do you mean about these?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Get into overrated digital
Speaker 1: food kidding, just kidding, sorry, sorry, one more for you.
Speaker 1: Give me two or three musical artists you really like.
Speaker 1: I'm a big afrobease guys, I'm gonna say burn a
Speaker 1: boy um wiz kid. And then you can't go around
Speaker 1: with the saying Beyonce. So I'm gonna say, show Houston aspect.
Speaker 1: All Right, you said you're a basketball guy, so I
Speaker 1: got a couple of the words for you, either Michael
Speaker 1: or Lebron. Oh, you're trying to give the fans to
Speaker 1: pick size on me already. I'm gonna I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Lebron just because I mean people that say Michael, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch them. Okay, I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy like Michael Jordan. But
Speaker 1: I've never watched the Floor. I'm in the Michael demographic.
Speaker 1: But I say Lebron. It's Michael Michael, Michael Michael. Would
Speaker 1: he crushed you like in a competitive battle, Mike go
Speaker 1: with Like Michael didn't have to score thirty to beat you,
Speaker 1: but he would find the way that he needed to
Speaker 1: beat you. That's like the description of Magic Johnson too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: magic could do that. You can throw magic in. That
Speaker 1: documentary is pretty good, by the Yeah, very very good. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one. Build your football team around one Jannie or Johannis. Well,
Speaker 1: are you going like rookie year yannas versus rookie year
Speaker 1: jobs talking right now? You build your football team? Football
Speaker 1: football team? Oh, then I'll probably go with jobs job.
Speaker 1: I'll probably say joh, I mean you can you could
Speaker 1: probably put him on offensive or defense, depending on how
Speaker 1: you want to build the team. But Yannest would be
Speaker 1: a red zone threat, would be a dog in the
Speaker 1: red zone. You're right, tight end receiver, throw them a
Speaker 1: jump ball. You gotta get to the red zone. But
Speaker 1: you got Wisconsin running back, so you can get to
Speaker 1: the red zone. Then you just throw it the hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you're right. I don't think you can go wrong
Speaker 1: with either one of them. Don't you feel there's a
Speaker 1: lot about football though that some of these are even
Speaker 1: the best athletes in the world, don't get as far
Speaker 1: as the contact, the collision, it's a completely different sport. Man.
Speaker 1: It's a growing up. I played a lot of sports,
Speaker 1: and it's just one. What I always say, the team
Speaker 1: aspect of football is unlike any other sport just because
Speaker 1: you I mean, you can be a number one draft
Speaker 1: pick in the NBA and change the whole trajector you
Speaker 1: have an organization, but a football I mean, you're a
Speaker 1: number one running back picked in the draft, not doing
Speaker 1: much if you ain't got a good old line. So
Speaker 1: it's just the whole the whole team aspect of football
Speaker 1: is completely different than any other sport. But like you said,
Speaker 1: this contact is a lot different to you can't replicate
Speaker 1: that another does that kind of go along with your
Speaker 1: point about Trevor and that not to criticize the Jaguars
Speaker 1: as a squad, but that it takes more than just
Speaker 1: a good young quarterback to turn a team. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's usually not a one year flip, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you have a high talent like that, Um,
Speaker 1: it takes a lot more than just like I said,
Speaker 1: it just takes a lot more than just a once
Speaker 1: in a generational player in football. All Right, Darry, thanks
Speaker 1: a lot for joining us, Good luck, but sure it
Speaker 1: nice to be here. Guys. There's Dario La visiting with
Speaker 1: Dods during cab in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Coming up,
Speaker 1: we go back to the Where Are They Now? Podcast
Speaker 1: series with Drew Doherty and Jay Foreman, who I've used
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio in the early days of Texans Radio,
Speaker 1: which is actually about ten years ago as somewhat of
Speaker 1: a commentator. But Jay doesn't live in the market, so
Speaker 1: that made it a little tough. But He's really sharp
Speaker 1: on analyzing NFL stuff and of course sharp about talking
Speaker 1: about Hey Sharper, I just fell into that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Jamie Sharper was a tackling machine. Jay Foreman was a
Speaker 1: tackling machine. This defense brought it in the early years
Speaker 1: of Houston Texans history and Jay visits Withdrew next here
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio final segment tonight we go back to
Speaker 1: the Where Are They Now podcast series with Drew Doherty
Speaker 1: visiting with Texans past. That would be Jay Foreman, member
Speaker 1: of that legends community and we've seen him around over
Speaker 1: the years. Like I said at the end of the
Speaker 1: last segment, I just want to set this up for
Speaker 1: you like this, Jay and Jamie Sharper were outstanding linebackers
Speaker 1: for this team in the early going inside linebackers in
Speaker 1: the VIC Fangio coached three to four with Kylie Wong
Speaker 1: outside and Jeff Posey as well at outside linebacker. Posey
Speaker 1: would lead the team in sacks in year one and
Speaker 1: end up getting a big free agent contract at the
Speaker 1: time with the Buffalo Bills going into year two. But
Speaker 1: let's set this defense up for you. Gary Walker, Seth Payne,
Speaker 1: Jerry DeLoach on the defensive line Kylie Jay, Foreman, Jamie
Speaker 1: Sharper and posey and linebacker. Then in the secondary pro
Speaker 1: bowler Aaron Glenn. He made it the inaugural year. Marcus Coleman,
Speaker 1: who we heard from last night in the Way Are
Speaker 1: They Now? Series segment. Eric Brown is still around as
Speaker 1: a Texans Legends community member at safety along with Matt Stevens,
Speaker 1: who was at the end of his career with the Texans.
Speaker 1: He actually got paralyzed at a motorcycle accident in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, but regained movement as of two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven best I could tell for my web research.
Speaker 1: But that was the defense and they finished right in
Speaker 1: the middle of the past in year one, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that the offense had all sorts of struggles, sometimes
Speaker 1: starting as many as six rookies. But Jay was a
Speaker 1: huge part of this defense make no mistake, tackling machine,
Speaker 1: like I said, and Drew Doherty had a nice visit
Speaker 1: with him. And though Where Are They Now? Podcast series,
Speaker 1: it's been way too long. I think it was, you know,
Speaker 1: during Andre Johnson's Ring of Honor weekend and seventeen and
Speaker 1: before that we'd see it training camp from time to time.
Speaker 1: But you're looking good. How are you? What's going on
Speaker 1: these days? Where are you and what are you doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm back in my original stopping grounds in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: I've been working for a company called Midwest Holding, so
Speaker 1: I kind of just helped them out with their marketing
Speaker 1: and sales a little bit. So I've been doing that
Speaker 1: for a while, coach a little bit of youth basketball,
Speaker 1: and every once in a while go down and help
Speaker 1: with the Husker football team. Mainly this year I went
Speaker 1: down there quite quite a bit. So just kind of
Speaker 1: stay stay busy, man. And you know, health is, you know,
Speaker 1: decent for the most part. You know, still got you
Speaker 1: know obviously neck and back in juries, but nothing uh,
Speaker 1: you know, out of the norm. So just trying to
Speaker 1: live life and you know it is man, Just trying
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, I enjoy watching football now and
Speaker 1: don't have to get ready to get those hits all
Speaker 1: the time. So these dudes are moving at you know.
Speaker 1: I would like to think people thought when I played,
Speaker 1: I was moving that fast, But these dudes look like
Speaker 1: they're moving a lot faster than I ever did. Well,
Speaker 1: you were moving quick, quickly, you were moving fast in
Speaker 1: those days, for sure. Two thousand and six was I
Speaker 1: guess your last year that you played in a regular
Speaker 1: season game. You just mentioned it was fun or it
Speaker 1: is fun watching games? Was that immediate? Did it? Were
Speaker 1: you able to watch like in two thousand and seven
Speaker 1: without you know, kind of having man Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I didn't watch football or
Speaker 1: do anything with football for like two or three years.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I mean, I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch high school, college or prosum you know,
Speaker 1: because I've never ever been injured. And I got hurt
Speaker 1: my last year at Houston and never seem to be
Speaker 1: able to get back on track, and then kind of
Speaker 1: bounced around last you know, a couple of years and
Speaker 1: hurt my neck real bad. So you never leave and
Speaker 1: didn't leave the game, not even close how I'd like,
Speaker 1: and most of us don't um and so you know,
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure stuff out. But you know, me
Speaker 1: coming back to Nebraska, uh, periodotically kind of rekindled that
Speaker 1: and then that, you know, led me when I'd be
Speaker 1: down to training camp every year, did a little bit
Speaker 1: of media stuff when they had Comcast sports Net, and
Speaker 1: did some stuff with Texans and they did. Texans have
Speaker 1: always done a good job with us original Texans or
Speaker 1: any alumni, keeping us involved when we're in town. So yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you know, so then that it kind of you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, snowball from there. And now I'll get this,
Speaker 1: you know, when I do get a free moment, I
Speaker 1: can watch a good game. I definitely sit down them
Speaker 1: and then watched it from a fan's perspective. More from
Speaker 1: True Jordy's podcast with Jay Foreman from the Where Are
Speaker 1: They Now? Series? So you're in Lincoln, you were playing
Speaker 1: for the Huskers. You guys were no joke man, I
Speaker 1: mean y'all were one of the bullies and college football.
Speaker 1: What's it like, you said, you help out with a team.
Speaker 1: What sort of stuff do you do, and what's it like,
Speaker 1: you know, being in Lincoln and and seeing the team
Speaker 1: now whichus what it was like when you were there, obviously,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a it's a drastic difference of obviously
Speaker 1: the record yea, um, but you know, it's good to
Speaker 1: be around. And the only thing I'm not down there
Speaker 1: like a full time no way by a coach or
Speaker 1: just volunteer. He once in a while. What I try
Speaker 1: to do is work with the players from a mental standpoint,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of focusing and understand that you know,
Speaker 1: you only get to play this game a short time. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's like what under one percent
Speaker 1: that guys would make it and in the stay a
Speaker 1: little bit longer than they're supposed to do for you know,
Speaker 1: you know, getting you know, your veteran status in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So I try to get them to understand maximize your opportunity, um,
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. And it's more from the mental side,
Speaker 1: and um, mainly that was this year and as far
Speaker 1: as the team goes, you know, obviously they're just uh,
Speaker 1: been a lot of transition, you know because when I
Speaker 1: was here, coach Osborne was here. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: Nick Saban is now at Alabama month and that's how
Speaker 1: we played and so you know, obviously it brings back
Speaker 1: good memories watching them. And then Scott you know, who
Speaker 1: is a former teammate of mine, is trying to get
Speaker 1: it back on the right track. So it's been very
Speaker 1: frustrating as an alumni, just because I'm not used to
Speaker 1: seeing Nebraska lose at this rate. But I think they're
Speaker 1: on the right track. So you know, I just try
Speaker 1: to look. I always try to tell player, any players,
Speaker 1: whether it's a rookie or somebody that's you know, playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL aspirations even college or high school to college,
Speaker 1: what I did good, what I wish I would have
Speaker 1: maybe done different, where I kind of ran into a
Speaker 1: little bit of speed bumps, and maybe if I heard
Speaker 1: a story or two that may correlate to what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's one of the best ways
Speaker 1: that I can give back is help people if they
Speaker 1: if it could help one player maybe have a good
Speaker 1: or better experience playing football, or maybe last a year
Speaker 1: or two longer in the NFL, then that's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Because you know, when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough that my dad was a pretty
Speaker 1: prominent player in his time. Not even biased. I think
Speaker 1: you should probably get in the in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: not there yet, but I was able to be exposed
Speaker 1: to a lot of guys that he played with and
Speaker 1: played against, so just all the different events and stuff,
Speaker 1: and so that's what you know. It kind of really
Speaker 1: made my transition a little bit easier going from college
Speaker 1: or from high school to college. College, the pros. So
Speaker 1: I felt I always told myself if I ever was
Speaker 1: in a position like that and people ask my advice
Speaker 1: or thought I could help out in any way, that's
Speaker 1: the least that you can do, is just trying to
Speaker 1: help out because it's hard to do. Man. It's a
Speaker 1: you know, playing just playing a game at the NFL
Speaker 1: level is accomplishment. And then when you're talking about putting
Speaker 1: a career together and trying to be successful because the
Speaker 1: competition isn't thick. So that's kind of what I'm doing
Speaker 1: down there in Nebraska, or did last year. And you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see if I go back this year, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they haven't even got back in school yet,
Speaker 1: so it's nothing that's going to be on the horizon.
Speaker 1: But you know, mainly it's a you know, I'm good
Speaker 1: to try to help out the game as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Continuing with the Where Are They Now Series podcast, Route
Speaker 1: Doherty visiting the Jay Foreman. Yeah, you just brought this
Speaker 1: this interviews about you, but you just brought up your father,
Speaker 1: Chuck Foreman, running back. For those that don't know the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, the Minnesota Vikings, I mean they were one
Speaker 1: of the Krem de La Krem in the NFL during
Speaker 1: that period, playing in a lot of Super Bowls. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, your dad is one of the greats, and
Speaker 1: he does deserve a lot more consideration, for sure. Tell
Speaker 1: me about coming into the NFL. You leave Nebraska, you
Speaker 1: go to the Buffalo Bills. Steadily you get better year
Speaker 1: by year. You spent three years with him. Your final
Speaker 1: year there you get over one hundred tackles and then
Speaker 1: you are in original Texan but you're not. Everybody knows this.
Speaker 1: You were traded to the Texans. So what was that like?
Speaker 1: Tell me about that transition, because I think people people assume,
Speaker 1: you know, they saw what you did with the Texas.
Speaker 1: You were one of the leaders on that great defense.
Speaker 1: We can say it now. It was a great defense
Speaker 1: wins and losses. It didn't translate because of some stuff
Speaker 1: going on on the offensive side the boat. You guys
Speaker 1: were a hell of a defense. You were one of
Speaker 1: their leaders, but you were not one of the expansion draftees. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what funny is the Internet it was very
Speaker 1: uh immature at that sea. I think you know, you
Speaker 1: know where you you know. The whole thing is you know,
Speaker 1: you can try to get right, you try to build
Speaker 1: yourself up and then maybe get a tender at that time,
Speaker 1: which is uh, you know, a fourth year contract. I
Speaker 1: was a late round draft choice and and like you said,
Speaker 1: steady worked my way up, played a few games my
Speaker 1: rookie years, started a lot in my second year, got
Speaker 1: a new coach, did pretty well, you know. And then
Speaker 1: the only thing that you could get on the internet
Speaker 1: back then, and we had dial up, you know, so
Speaker 1: we had no no Wi Fi, was to get on
Speaker 1: I think a website kaffl dot com and you know
Speaker 1: that's where you get your free agency news. And so
Speaker 1: the expansion Draft went. Um, they usually had to notify
Speaker 1: you whether you were going to be in it, and
Speaker 1: I never got notified because I was a restricted free agent,
Speaker 1: so they really couldn't, but they could. And um, so
Speaker 1: you know, they signed a veteran linebacker that had previous
Speaker 1: experience with coach Williams who was the coach at Buffalo
Speaker 1: at the time, Greg Williams. So I was kind of
Speaker 1: in limbo. But you know, my agent was like, you
Speaker 1: go back there and maybe they'll switch your positions and
Speaker 1: you'll play. And went out there for like the first,
Speaker 1: like kind of mini camp Otason. They said, before you
Speaker 1: step out here, it's gonna let you know, we just
Speaker 1: traded you for Charlie Rodgers. And then, um, you know,
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, I think that night or that
Speaker 1: very next morning, I was on my way to Houston,
Speaker 1: which you know, I'd only been down to Texas playing
Speaker 1: and playing in college and so we played down in
Speaker 1: San Antonio in the Big Twelfth Championship. But I've never
Speaker 1: really been to Texas and I but I played with
Speaker 1: tons of guys from Texas, and you hear I always
Speaker 1: say this, guys from Texas, it's always bigger and better,
Speaker 1: and when you get there. I didn't even realize Houston
Speaker 1: at that time it was the third largest city in
Speaker 1: the whole of the United States, you know, so I'm
Speaker 1: learning on the fly let alone. When I left Buffalo,
Speaker 1: it was considering a hot day. I think it was
Speaker 1: like sixty eight degrees and Sonny get down in Houston,
Speaker 1: I think it was it was it was ninety degrees,
Speaker 1: ninety percent humidity, and Don was the coach. I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what was going on. The best thing I
Speaker 1: think that could have happened to me was Chris Brown
Speaker 1: what had just signed as a free agent, I think
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh as a kicker. Me and him played together,
Speaker 1: so that's good. You have a familiar face. Even though
Speaker 1: he's a kicker. He you know, obviously we're not in
Speaker 1: the same you know, position group room, but you still
Speaker 1: know him and you've been knowing each other since we've
Speaker 1: been eighteen. And then I knew Collie Wong because in
Speaker 1: the offseason I lived in Minneapolis and he came down
Speaker 1: from the Vikings. So at least I had some guys
Speaker 1: I could talk to and converse, and I knew all
Speaker 1: the players that they picked up, you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: they were all you know, Seth Payne, Jamis Sharper, Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 1: Marcus Coleman, Gary Walker, so fourth and so on. So like,
Speaker 1: you know, look at to be a you know, good
Speaker 1: situation or you know, playing with some good players. Got
Speaker 1: down here and you know, they threw me in the fire.
Speaker 1: Reggie Herring was my linebacker coach. And if you know
Speaker 1: anything about Reggie, he is definitely intense. And the good
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't know until, you know, middle of
Speaker 1: the first season, was he knew my linebacker coach in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They must have coached together, so he knew kind of
Speaker 1: what buttons to push, and Reggie brought out the best
Speaker 1: in me. Man, and I love Reggie to this day.
Speaker 1: I still, you know, text with him, you know, three
Speaker 1: or four times a year, and we really dove in.
Speaker 1: I got to learn the defense, which was you know,
Speaker 1: very very complex defense, a Dom Kaper's three four defense.
Speaker 1: But once I got there, I kind of felt like
Speaker 1: I took off individually and it allowed me to prosper
Speaker 1: not only as a player, but then also as a leader,
Speaker 1: you know, be more, you know, be a voice. Grow up.
Speaker 1: I was still was a fourth year player, so you
Speaker 1: gotta think Jamie Sharper was a Super Bowl champion. Aaron
Speaker 1: Glenn was a numerous time pro bowler. Marcus Coleman should
Speaker 1: have Gary Walker's ment a pro bowler. Saith Plane was
Speaker 1: really really good, and so I had to find my way.
Speaker 1: But then once I got in there, and I figured,
Speaker 1: you know, the best thing that I can do is
Speaker 1: show up early every day, work my tail off, produce
Speaker 1: and everything else as far as them under you know,
Speaker 1: welcoming me as the leader. When you're the middle linebacker
Speaker 1: and the play caller, you're just a you're the de
Speaker 1: facto leader, whether you like it or not. And then
Speaker 1: it just kind of was a perfect marriage, man, And
Speaker 1: we played hard for each other. We played, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of great football the first two years, and
Speaker 1: we're injuries hit us in the third year, and I
Speaker 1: love those guys. You know. We went through some times
Speaker 1: together where you know, the offense was very lean and
Speaker 1: it's a new team, you know, and you were kind
Speaker 1: of you know, new organization, but that we had a
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of support organizational and wise and fan base wise.
Speaker 1: So so that was really good. But you know, we
Speaker 1: had to take it on the chin. And every time
Speaker 1: we see Houston have success, you kind of feel like
Speaker 1: you have a little bit invested in it because you know,
Speaker 1: we were the original guys. And they make us feel
Speaker 1: at home too, you know, when you come back and stuff,
Speaker 1: and all the players that they've or that I've ever
Speaker 1: became in you know, contact with, you know afterwards, are
Speaker 1: really really good. So I always look back at Houston
Speaker 1: as a secondary home. If I didn't live in Nebraska,
Speaker 1: I definitely live in Houston. I love going back there.
Speaker 1: I miss it, you know obviously now during the winter
Speaker 1: here in Nebraska. But I love the city of Houston,
Speaker 1: nothing but fond memories. Um. Some of my best friends
Speaker 1: are down there and UM and I made a lot
Speaker 1: of great friends that I still talk to. UM and
Speaker 1: we're you know, I hadn't been down there for quite
Speaker 1: some time, but every time we see each other, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's we start right over. Like when I see Fred Weary.
Speaker 1: I love. I love going back to Alumni week weekend
Speaker 1: seeing Eric Brown because he's the guy, he's the he's
Speaker 1: the one of the best personalities, the character man and
Speaker 1: Kenny Wright, you know, you see him, Mary Corey, Bradford, UM.
Speaker 1: And then Fred Weary. I love seeing Fred. I mean
Speaker 1: because we used the butt heads all the time. UM,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy, A tremendous amount of respect for
Speaker 1: him as a player, as a person. But we had
Speaker 1: it even though we obviously didn't win as much as
Speaker 1: we thought we should or could or whatever the situation was.
Speaker 1: It was never from a lack of effort um or
Speaker 1: or or you know, trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: And we really bonded. I mean, you gotta think to
Speaker 1: take the leap of faith, whether you got picked up
Speaker 1: in the expansive draft or traded ideally it's not probably
Speaker 1: where you want to go as a as sending player. Um,
Speaker 1: but you get down there and you make it work,
Speaker 1: and you start to build relationships, and you go through
Speaker 1: the grind and you make it the first year, second
Speaker 1: third year, you know, you kind of start to have
Speaker 1: a good foundation, and you know, one of the things
Speaker 1: I wish they could have done was maybe let us
Speaker 1: try to do it one more year, because I felt
Speaker 1: like we could have got a little bit more healthy
Speaker 1: on defense obviously in few some draft choices or whatever
Speaker 1: they did, and Andre was really starting to take off
Speaker 1: and we started to kind of get a little bit
Speaker 1: better on that side of the ball and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think we could have really did some things. But
Speaker 1: obviously it worked out, you know, obviously shortly after that
Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs numerous times, which was great
Speaker 1: to see because definitely the city of Houston definitely, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously deserved, you know, obviously a winner, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I always you see it right now, I
Speaker 1: got got my Houston jersey here and Buffalo there. You know.
Speaker 1: I played two more seasons for Giants in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: but these are the only two that I have framed
Speaker 1: and I always, you know, think of the Houston first
Speaker 1: and foremost, even um, you know we're drafted by the
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Speaker 1: past Wednesday. So enjoy that. A lot to go over
Speaker 1: next week, Johnny, We'll be back, will be on Let's
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