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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. We have another

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Speaker 1: summer Special's week special for you players past in present,

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Speaker 1: Texans Legends community members. Tonight it is going to be

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Speaker 1: Jay Foreman, tackling machine from the early days of Texans history.

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Speaker 1: Great guy as well, and other than that, a potpourri

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Speaker 1: of running backs. Maybe I could come up with a

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Speaker 1: better word, a Shmorga's board of running backs. How about

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Speaker 1: an assortment of running backs? That's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: And a reminder, this is a legal issue, suspension issue,

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Speaker 1: hearing issue free zone here tonight. Of course I have

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Speaker 1: plenty of thoughts on everything, we'll get to those later.

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Speaker 1: This is about players past and present for your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: and there's no better way to start this running back

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Speaker 1: play for the Nemesis Boy. I did a daily brew

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Speaker 1: this week on All Time Texans Villains. We covered this

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Speaker 1: on Monday with Johnny on the show, and three of

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Speaker 1: those top five slots were occupied by Colts Peyton, Manning,

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Speaker 1: two went in as a pair all time Texans villains.

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Speaker 1: If you're curious about the others, go to Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: Daily Brew from Wednesday. Anyway, this player, Marlon Mack also

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Speaker 1: participated in some big ones against the Houston Texans in

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Speaker 1: the Royal Blue, including his performance in the playoff victory

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Speaker 1: for Indie to cap the twenty eighteenth season. And I

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Speaker 1: mean cap at a variety of ways here, ouch, but

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Speaker 1: Mac is now a Texan and looks spry at OTA's

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Speaker 1: great to have him on the squad. Of course, when

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I sat down with him at mini camp

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Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, it was going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting for me. Feeling the way I do about Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get emotional about this one. Marlon Mack is

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Speaker 1: with us, all right, just so you know, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Texans. I hate the Colts like poison in

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Speaker 1: a healthy football sports way. So it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you on our team now because I'm tired of you

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Speaker 1: When we think about Marlon Mack and we heard that

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Speaker 1: oh my god, that playoff game and then I send

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Speaker 1: us down a rabbit hole in that playoff game where

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Speaker 1: you just went absolutely nuts at that particular point. The

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Speaker 1: sure you've probably heard that along the way, and so

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Speaker 1: people are like, what's he got left? I ask Marlon

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Speaker 1: mac Yeah, what you got left? I think I got

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Speaker 1: a lot left, man. Uh. This past few year has

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Speaker 1: just been tough for me. But last year I just

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Speaker 1: They just gotta work. Hopefully I get that chance here,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad to do what I do. What's the

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like. Uh, definitely gonna be good

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Speaker 1: And uh, hopefully I do that bring some assitement to

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Speaker 1: Marlon Mack with us so far in your career, you've

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Speaker 1: been around a bunch of different quarterbacks with one franchise,

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Speaker 1: So what are you seeing in young Davis Mills here

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Speaker 1: that's what I see, am, Marlon. We love Houston, we

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Speaker 1: I didn't recognize it to Like my sophomore year in college,

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Speaker 1: your favorite karaoke song at a karaoke bar? I'll be

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Speaker 1: The only pizza you can have is pineapple pizza. That's it,

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Speaker 1: have busines his dress off? Maybe travel? Yeah, traveling? Good?

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Speaker 1: that's the guy, Texas guy joining us. Good lot, Thank you. There.

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Speaker 1: It was a Marlin mac Attack and the Hunday Texans

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Speaker 1: use that this season. I hope I get to a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's continue with running backs. Royce Freeman. We

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Speaker 1: organization because at the end of the day, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's a business. You can't just go around being bitter

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Speaker 1: at every team. I've been cut a butt, so I

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Speaker 1: can't really be like that. But now it's more so

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Speaker 1: just being being excited to play against my friends on

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Speaker 1: the other team, other Wisconsin guys, other Big ten guys.

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Speaker 1: M just playing to get able to play against them. Well,

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Speaker 1: you made a great point, because sixth year in the league,

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Speaker 1: everyone's changing teams, right, I mean every team flips the

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Speaker 1: rocks every two or four years. Yeah, so hey, I

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Speaker 1: remember you must happen all the time, and you were

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Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay twice as well, right, so yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I said, it's and even being here in Houston now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's not many guys that were here when

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Speaker 1: I was first year. Besides what weeks us a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys in the locker room that I've played on

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Speaker 1: different teams, played with different teams. So it's m that's

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Speaker 1: just the nature of being in the league. Ross is

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Speaker 1: a real fluid, So you get to play with a

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Speaker 1: lot of the guys and um, sometimes you get to

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Speaker 1: play against them too. More from our minicamp visit with

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Speaker 1: Dare and the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. Okay, from Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: You w at the University of Wisconsin. I was worn

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Speaker 1: about an hour north of Green Bay, so I lived

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Speaker 1: there for ten eleven years for it got here. So

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Speaker 1: the Badgers the talking, my heart shrinks a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I want you to make a case for the Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: Badgers to be RBU. You said, this isn't a visual thing,

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Speaker 1: but I got RB you tattered on my should. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that. I feel like that's my case right there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's obvious. Man. We we We've done it

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Speaker 1: for a long time, one after another. Man, Yeah, you

457
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Speaker 1: can start my freshman we had Monti Ball, James White,

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, me, Corey Clement, Jonathan Taylor. Now we got

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Speaker 1: Braylan Out. I mean just back to back to back.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. So um people they have their

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Speaker 1: arguments on different teams, different schools, but I mean I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's pretty obvious. I mean because we got

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Speaker 1: fullbacks too. Man, we got other ging gold in the league,

464
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Speaker 1: Derek Wadden league. We got fullbacks too, So I think

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Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious. It's ru And even before you guys too,

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Speaker 1: even before you you had uh Anthony Davis. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: the listen, Like I said, I was a starting endless

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Speaker 1: freshman year. So yeah, we we. I mean the list

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Speaker 1: is in this. Like you said, Brian Calhoun, all right,

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Speaker 1: dog so we just said dogs, man. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's RVU. Obviously, Ron Dane had almost eight hundred yards

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Speaker 1: here in two thousand and seven. So if we get

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Speaker 1: that from you this year, awesome. Daria go with us,

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Speaker 1: all right, hurry up, offense. A couple of off field

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Speaker 1: questions for you, Ready to go all right sport you

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Speaker 1: would be playing professionally if it wasn't football, soccer. Soccer's

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Speaker 1: who's your soccer squad? It was always PSG because I

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Speaker 1: was a loathing fan. But now I kind of just

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Speaker 1: like all the teams just some. Yeah, there's some so

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Speaker 1: many good players now it's kind of hard to just

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Speaker 1: pick one. All right, other profession other than being a

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Speaker 1: professional athlete, what are you doing if you're not playing

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Speaker 1: professional football? I'll probably say coach. I'll probably ye, maybe

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Speaker 1: like a basketball coach. I love basketball too, so i'd

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Speaker 1: probably be like a basketball high basketball coach. Follow wasn't

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Speaker 1: playing football right now? Okay, cheat food burgers? I mean

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Speaker 1: you say you're born in Wisconsin covers man burger. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking it every day. Yeah, absolutely, What about these cheese

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Speaker 1: kurds or whatever? Who what do you mean about these?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Get into overrated digital

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Speaker 1: food kidding, just kidding, sorry, sorry, one more for you.

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Speaker 1: Give me two or three musical artists you really like.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big afrobease guys, I'm gonna say burn a

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Speaker 1: boy um wiz kid. And then you can't go around

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Speaker 1: with the saying Beyonce. So I'm gonna say, show Houston aspect.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you said you're a basketball guy, so I

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Speaker 1: got a couple of the words for you, either Michael

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Speaker 1: or Lebron. Oh, you're trying to give the fans to

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Speaker 1: pick size on me already. I'm gonna I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: Lebron just because I mean people that say Michael, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch them. Okay, I don't want to. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy like Michael Jordan. But

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Speaker 1: I've never watched the Floor. I'm in the Michael demographic.

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Speaker 1: But I say Lebron. It's Michael Michael, Michael Michael. Would

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Speaker 1: he crushed you like in a competitive battle, Mike go

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Speaker 1: with Like Michael didn't have to score thirty to beat you,

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Speaker 1: but he would find the way that he needed to

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Speaker 1: beat you. That's like the description of Magic Johnson too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: magic could do that. You can throw magic in. That

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Speaker 1: documentary is pretty good, by the Yeah, very very good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's one. Build your football team around one Jannie or Johannis. Well,

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Speaker 1: are you going like rookie year yannas versus rookie year

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Speaker 1: jobs talking right now? You build your football team? Football

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Speaker 1: football team? Oh, then I'll probably go with jobs job.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably say joh, I mean you can you could

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Speaker 1: probably put him on offensive or defense, depending on how

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Speaker 1: you want to build the team. But Yannest would be

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Speaker 1: a red zone threat, would be a dog in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. You're right, tight end receiver, throw them a

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Speaker 1: jump ball. You gotta get to the red zone. But

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Speaker 1: you got Wisconsin running back, so you can get to

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Speaker 1: the red zone. Then you just throw it the hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that you're right. I don't think you can go wrong

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Speaker 1: with either one of them. Don't you feel there's a

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Speaker 1: lot about football though that some of these are even

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Speaker 1: the best athletes in the world, don't get as far

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Speaker 1: as the contact, the collision, it's a completely different sport. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's a growing up. I played a lot of sports,

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Speaker 1: and it's just one. What I always say, the team

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Speaker 1: aspect of football is unlike any other sport just because

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Speaker 1: you I mean, you can be a number one draft

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Speaker 1: pick in the NBA and change the whole trajector you

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Speaker 1: have an organization, but a football I mean, you're a

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Speaker 1: number one running back picked in the draft, not doing

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Speaker 1: much if you ain't got a good old line. So

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Speaker 1: it's just the whole the whole team aspect of football

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Speaker 1: is completely different than any other sport. But like you said,

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Speaker 1: this contact is a lot different to you can't replicate

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Speaker 1: that another does that kind of go along with your

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Speaker 1: point about Trevor and that not to criticize the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: as a squad, but that it takes more than just

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Speaker 1: a good young quarterback to turn a team. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's usually not a one year flip, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you have a high talent like that, Um,

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot more than just like I said,

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Speaker 1: it just takes a lot more than just a once

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Speaker 1: in a generational player in football. All Right, Darry, thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot for joining us, Good luck, but sure it

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Speaker 1: nice to be here. Guys. There's Dario La visiting with

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Speaker 1: Dods during cab in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: we go back to the Where Are They Now? Podcast

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Speaker 1: series with Drew Doherty and Jay Foreman, who I've used

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio in the early days of Texans Radio,

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Speaker 1: which is actually about ten years ago as somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a commentator. But Jay doesn't live in the market, so

556
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Speaker 1: that made it a little tough. But He's really sharp

557
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Speaker 1: on analyzing NFL stuff and of course sharp about talking

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Speaker 1: about Hey Sharper, I just fell into that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Sharper was a tackling machine. Jay Foreman was a

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Speaker 1: tackling machine. This defense brought it in the early years

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Speaker 1: of Houston Texans history and Jay visits Withdrew next here

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio final segment tonight we go back to

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Speaker 1: the Where Are They Now podcast series with Drew Doherty

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Speaker 1: visiting with Texans past. That would be Jay Foreman, member

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Speaker 1: of that legends community and we've seen him around over

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Speaker 1: the years. Like I said at the end of the

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Speaker 1: last segment, I just want to set this up for

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Speaker 1: you like this, Jay and Jamie Sharper were outstanding linebackers

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Speaker 1: for this team in the early going inside linebackers in

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Speaker 1: the VIC Fangio coached three to four with Kylie Wong

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Speaker 1: outside and Jeff Posey as well at outside linebacker. Posey

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Speaker 1: would lead the team in sacks in year one and

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Speaker 1: end up getting a big free agent contract at the

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Speaker 1: time with the Buffalo Bills going into year two. But

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Speaker 1: let's set this defense up for you. Gary Walker, Seth Payne,

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Speaker 1: Jerry DeLoach on the defensive line Kylie Jay, Foreman, Jamie

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Speaker 1: Sharper and posey and linebacker. Then in the secondary pro

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Speaker 1: bowler Aaron Glenn. He made it the inaugural year. Marcus Coleman,

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Speaker 1: who we heard from last night in the Way Are

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Speaker 1: They Now? Series segment. Eric Brown is still around as

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Speaker 1: a Texans Legends community member at safety along with Matt Stevens,

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Speaker 1: who was at the end of his career with the Texans.

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Speaker 1: He actually got paralyzed at a motorcycle accident in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven, but regained movement as of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eleven best I could tell for my web research.

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Speaker 1: But that was the defense and they finished right in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the past in year one, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that the offense had all sorts of struggles, sometimes

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Speaker 1: starting as many as six rookies. But Jay was a

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Speaker 1: huge part of this defense make no mistake, tackling machine,

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Speaker 1: like I said, and Drew Doherty had a nice visit

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Speaker 1: with him. And though Where Are They Now? Podcast series,

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Speaker 1: it's been way too long. I think it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: during Andre Johnson's Ring of Honor weekend and seventeen and

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Speaker 1: before that we'd see it training camp from time to time.

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Speaker 1: But you're looking good. How are you? What's going on

597
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Speaker 1: these days? Where are you and what are you doing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm back in my original stopping grounds in Lincoln, Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: I've been working for a company called Midwest Holding, so

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Speaker 1: I kind of just helped them out with their marketing

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Speaker 1: and sales a little bit. So I've been doing that

602
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Speaker 1: for a while, coach a little bit of youth basketball,

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Speaker 1: and every once in a while go down and help

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Speaker 1: with the Husker football team. Mainly this year I went

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Speaker 1: down there quite quite a bit. So just kind of

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Speaker 1: stay stay busy, man. And you know, health is, you know,

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Speaker 1: decent for the most part. You know, still got you

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Speaker 1: know obviously neck and back in juries, but nothing uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, out of the norm. So just trying to

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Speaker 1: live life and you know it is man, Just trying

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Speaker 1: to uh, you know, I enjoy watching football now and

612
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Speaker 1: don't have to get ready to get those hits all

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Speaker 1: the time. So these dudes are moving at you know.

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Speaker 1: I would like to think people thought when I played,

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Speaker 1: I was moving that fast, But these dudes look like

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Speaker 1: they're moving a lot faster than I ever did. Well,

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Speaker 1: you were moving quick, quickly, you were moving fast in

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Speaker 1: those days, for sure. Two thousand and six was I

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Speaker 1: guess your last year that you played in a regular

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Speaker 1: season game. You just mentioned it was fun or it

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Speaker 1: is fun watching games? Was that immediate? Did it? Were

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Speaker 1: you able to watch like in two thousand and seven

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Speaker 1: without you know, kind of having man Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I didn't watch football or

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Speaker 1: do anything with football for like two or three years.

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I mean, I'm talking about it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch high school, college or prosum you know,

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Speaker 1: because I've never ever been injured. And I got hurt

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Speaker 1: my last year at Houston and never seem to be

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Speaker 1: able to get back on track, and then kind of

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Speaker 1: bounced around last you know, a couple of years and

632
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Speaker 1: hurt my neck real bad. So you never leave and

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Speaker 1: didn't leave the game, not even close how I'd like,

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Speaker 1: and most of us don't um and so you know,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to figure stuff out. But you know, me

636
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Speaker 1: coming back to Nebraska, uh, periodotically kind of rekindled that

637
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: and then that, you know, led me when I'd be

638
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: down to training camp every year, did a little bit

639
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: of media stuff when they had Comcast sports Net, and

640
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: did some stuff with Texans and they did. Texans have

641
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: always done a good job with us original Texans or

642
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: any alumni, keeping us involved when we're in town. So yeah, um,

643
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, so then that it kind of you know, um,

644
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, snowball from there. And now I'll get this,

645
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, when I do get a free moment, I

646
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: can watch a good game. I definitely sit down them

647
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: and then watched it from a fan's perspective. More from

648
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: True Jordy's podcast with Jay Foreman from the Where Are

649
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: They Now? Series? So you're in Lincoln, you were playing

650
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: for the Huskers. You guys were no joke man, I

651
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: mean y'all were one of the bullies and college football.

652
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: What's it like, you said, you help out with a team.

653
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: What sort of stuff do you do, and what's it like,

654
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, being in Lincoln and and seeing the team

655
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: now whichus what it was like when you were there, obviously,

656
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a it's a drastic difference of obviously

657
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: the record yea, um, but you know, it's good to

658
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: be around. And the only thing I'm not down there

659
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: like a full time no way by a coach or

660
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: just volunteer. He once in a while. What I try

661
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: to do is work with the players from a mental standpoint,

662
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of focusing and understand that you know,

663
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: you only get to play this game a short time. Um,

664
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's like what under one percent

665
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: that guys would make it and in the stay a

666
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: little bit longer than they're supposed to do for you know,

667
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, getting you know, your veteran status in the NFL.

668
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: So I try to get them to understand maximize your opportunity, um,

669
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. And it's more from the mental side,

670
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: and um, mainly that was this year and as far

671
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: as the team goes, you know, obviously they're just uh,

672
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: been a lot of transition, you know because when I

673
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: was here, coach Osborne was here. It's kind of like

674
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Nick Saban is now at Alabama month and that's how

675
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: we played and so you know, obviously it brings back

676
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: good memories watching them. And then Scott you know, who

677
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: is a former teammate of mine, is trying to get

678
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: it back on the right track. So it's been very

679
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: frustrating as an alumni, just because I'm not used to

680
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: seeing Nebraska lose at this rate. But I think they're

681
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: on the right track. So you know, I just try

682
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: to look. I always try to tell player, any players,

683
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: whether it's a rookie or somebody that's you know, playing

684
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL aspirations even college or high school to college,

685
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: what I did good, what I wish I would have

686
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: maybe done different, where I kind of ran into a

687
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: little bit of speed bumps, and maybe if I heard

688
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: a story or two that may correlate to what they're doing.

689
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's one of the best ways

690
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: that I can give back is help people if they

691
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: if it could help one player maybe have a good

692
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: or better experience playing football, or maybe last a year

693
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: or two longer in the NFL, then that's what you're

694
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Because you know, when I was growing up,

695
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough that my dad was a pretty

696
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: prominent player in his time. Not even biased. I think

697
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: you should probably get in the in the Hall of Fame,

698
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: not there yet, but I was able to be exposed

699
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: to a lot of guys that he played with and

700
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: played against, so just all the different events and stuff,

701
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and so that's what you know. It kind of really

702
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: made my transition a little bit easier going from college

703
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: or from high school to college. College, the pros. So

704
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: I felt I always told myself if I ever was

705
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: in a position like that and people ask my advice

706
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: or thought I could help out in any way, that's

707
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: the least that you can do, is just trying to

708
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: help out because it's hard to do. Man. It's a

709
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, playing just playing a game at the NFL

710
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: level is accomplishment. And then when you're talking about putting

711
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: a career together and trying to be successful because the

712
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: competition isn't thick. So that's kind of what I'm doing

713
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: down there in Nebraska, or did last year. And you know,

714
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: we'll see if I go back this year, I think,

715
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they haven't even got back in school yet,

716
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: so it's nothing that's going to be on the horizon.

717
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: But you know, mainly it's a you know, I'm good

718
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: to try to help out the game as much as possible.

719
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Continuing with the Where Are They Now Series podcast, Route

720
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Doherty visiting the Jay Foreman. Yeah, you just brought this

721
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: this interviews about you, but you just brought up your father,

722
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Chuck Foreman, running back. For those that don't know the

723
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, the Minnesota Vikings, I mean they were one

724
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: of the Krem de La Krem in the NFL during

725
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: that period, playing in a lot of Super Bowls. So, yeah,

726
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you're right, your dad is one of the greats, and

727
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: he does deserve a lot more consideration, for sure. Tell

728
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: me about coming into the NFL. You leave Nebraska, you

729
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: go to the Buffalo Bills. Steadily you get better year

730
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: by year. You spent three years with him. Your final

731
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: year there you get over one hundred tackles and then

732
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: you are in original Texan but you're not. Everybody knows this.

733
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: You were traded to the Texans. So what was that like?

734
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Tell me about that transition, because I think people people assume,

735
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, they saw what you did with the Texas.

736
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: You were one of the leaders on that great defense.

737
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: We can say it now. It was a great defense

738
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: wins and losses. It didn't translate because of some stuff

739
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: going on on the offensive side the boat. You guys

740
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: were a hell of a defense. You were one of

741
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: their leaders, but you were not one of the expansion draftees. Right. Yeah.

742
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: You know what funny is the Internet it was very

743
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: uh immature at that sea. I think you know, you

744
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: know where you you know. The whole thing is you know,

745
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: you can try to get right, you try to build

746
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: yourself up and then maybe get a tender at that time,

747
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: which is uh, you know, a fourth year contract. I

748
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: was a late round draft choice and and like you said,

749
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: steady worked my way up, played a few games my

750
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: rookie years, started a lot in my second year, got

751
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: a new coach, did pretty well, you know. And then

752
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: the only thing that you could get on the internet

753
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: back then, and we had dial up, you know, so

754
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: we had no no Wi Fi, was to get on

755
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: I think a website kaffl dot com and you know

756
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: that's where you get your free agency news. And so

757
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: the expansion Draft went. Um, they usually had to notify

758
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: you whether you were going to be in it, and

759
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: I never got notified because I was a restricted free agent,

760
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: so they really couldn't, but they could. And um, so

761
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, they signed a veteran linebacker that had previous

762
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: experience with coach Williams who was the coach at Buffalo

763
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: at the time, Greg Williams. So I was kind of

764
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: in limbo. But you know, my agent was like, you

765
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: go back there and maybe they'll switch your positions and

766
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: you'll play. And went out there for like the first,

767
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: like kind of mini camp Otason. They said, before you

768
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: step out here, it's gonna let you know, we just

769
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: traded you for Charlie Rodgers. And then, um, you know,

770
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, I think that night or that

771
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: very next morning, I was on my way to Houston,

772
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: which you know, I'd only been down to Texas playing

773
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: and playing in college and so we played down in

774
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: San Antonio in the Big Twelfth Championship. But I've never

775
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: really been to Texas and I but I played with

776
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: tons of guys from Texas, and you hear I always

777
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: say this, guys from Texas, it's always bigger and better,

778
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: and when you get there. I didn't even realize Houston

779
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: at that time it was the third largest city in

780
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: the whole of the United States, you know, so I'm

781
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: learning on the fly let alone. When I left Buffalo,

782
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: it was considering a hot day. I think it was

783
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: like sixty eight degrees and Sonny get down in Houston,

784
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: I think it was it was it was ninety degrees,

785
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: ninety percent humidity, and Don was the coach. I didn't

786
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: really know what was going on. The best thing I

787
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: think that could have happened to me was Chris Brown

788
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: what had just signed as a free agent, I think

789
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh as a kicker. Me and him played together,

790
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: so that's good. You have a familiar face. Even though

791
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: he's a kicker. He you know, obviously we're not in

792
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: the same you know, position group room, but you still

793
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: know him and you've been knowing each other since we've

794
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: been eighteen. And then I knew Collie Wong because in

795
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: the offseason I lived in Minneapolis and he came down

796
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: from the Vikings. So at least I had some guys

797
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I could talk to and converse, and I knew all

798
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: the players that they picked up, you know, just you know,

799
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: they were all you know, Seth Payne, Jamis Sharper, Aaron Glenn,

800
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Marcus Coleman, Gary Walker, so fourth and so on. So like,

801
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, look at to be a you know, good

802
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: situation or you know, playing with some good players. Got

803
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: down here and you know, they threw me in the fire.

804
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Reggie Herring was my linebacker coach. And if you know

805
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: anything about Reggie, he is definitely intense. And the good

806
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't know until, you know, middle of

807
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: the first season, was he knew my linebacker coach in Buffalo.

808
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: They must have coached together, so he knew kind of

809
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: what buttons to push, and Reggie brought out the best

810
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: in me. Man, and I love Reggie to this day.

811
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: I still, you know, text with him, you know, three

812
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: or four times a year, and we really dove in.

813
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I got to learn the defense, which was you know,

814
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: very very complex defense, a Dom Kaper's three four defense.

815
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: But once I got there, I kind of felt like

816
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I took off individually and it allowed me to prosper

817
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: not only as a player, but then also as a leader,

818
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, be more, you know, be a voice. Grow up.

819
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: I was still was a fourth year player, so you

820
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: gotta think Jamie Sharper was a Super Bowl champion. Aaron

821
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: Glenn was a numerous time pro bowler. Marcus Coleman should

822
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: have Gary Walker's ment a pro bowler. Saith Plane was

823
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: really really good, and so I had to find my way.

824
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: But then once I got in there, and I figured,

825
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, the best thing that I can do is

826
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: show up early every day, work my tail off, produce

827
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: and everything else as far as them under you know,

828
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: welcoming me as the leader. When you're the middle linebacker

829
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: and the play caller, you're just a you're the de

830
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: facto leader, whether you like it or not. And then

831
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: it just kind of was a perfect marriage, man, And

832
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: we played hard for each other. We played, you know,

833
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: a lot of great football the first two years, and

834
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: we're injuries hit us in the third year, and I

835
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: love those guys. You know. We went through some times

836
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: together where you know, the offense was very lean and

837
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: it's a new team, you know, and you were kind

838
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: of you know, new organization, but that we had a

839
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of support organizational and wise and fan base wise.

840
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: So so that was really good. But you know, we

841
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: had to take it on the chin. And every time

842
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: we see Houston have success, you kind of feel like

843
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: you have a little bit invested in it because you know,

844
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: we were the original guys. And they make us feel

845
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: at home too, you know, when you come back and stuff,

846
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: and all the players that they've or that I've ever

847
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: became in you know, contact with, you know afterwards, are

848
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Speaker 1: really really good. So I always look back at Houston

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Speaker 1: as a secondary home. If I didn't live in Nebraska,

850
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I definitely live in Houston. I love going back there.

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00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: I miss it, you know obviously now during the winter

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Speaker 1: here in Nebraska. But I love the city of Houston,

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00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: nothing but fond memories. Um. Some of my best friends

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Speaker 1: are down there and UM and I made a lot

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Speaker 1: of great friends that I still talk to. UM and

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00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: we're you know, I hadn't been down there for quite

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Speaker 1: some time, but every time we see each other, Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's we start right over. Like when I see Fred Weary.

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Speaker 1: I love. I love going back to Alumni week weekend

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Speaker 1: seeing Eric Brown because he's the guy, he's the he's

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Speaker 1: the one of the best personalities, the character man and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Wright, you know, you see him, Mary Corey, Bradford, UM.

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Speaker 1: And then Fred Weary. I love seeing Fred. I mean

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Speaker 1: because we used the butt heads all the time. UM,

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Speaker 1: but he's a guy, A tremendous amount of respect for

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Speaker 1: him as a player, as a person. But we had

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Speaker 1: it even though we obviously didn't win as much as

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Speaker 1: we thought we should or could or whatever the situation was.

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Speaker 1: It was never from a lack of effort um or

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Speaker 1: or or you know, trying to do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: And we really bonded. I mean, you gotta think to

872
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: take the leap of faith, whether you got picked up

873
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Speaker 1: in the expansive draft or traded ideally it's not probably

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Speaker 1: where you want to go as a as sending player. Um,

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Speaker 1: but you get down there and you make it work,

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Speaker 1: and you start to build relationships, and you go through

877
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: the grind and you make it the first year, second

878
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: third year, you know, you kind of start to have

879
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Speaker 1: a good foundation, and you know, one of the things

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Speaker 1: I wish they could have done was maybe let us

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Speaker 1: try to do it one more year, because I felt

882
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Speaker 1: like we could have got a little bit more healthy

883
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: on defense obviously in few some draft choices or whatever

884
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: they did, and Andre was really starting to take off

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Speaker 1: and we started to kind of get a little bit

886
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: better on that side of the ball and stuff like that.

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00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: I think we could have really did some things. But

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00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: obviously it worked out, you know, obviously shortly after that

889
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs numerous times, which was great

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00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: to see because definitely the city of Houston definitely, you know,

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00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: obviously deserved, you know, obviously a winner, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I always you see it right now, I

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Speaker 1: got got my Houston jersey here and Buffalo there. You know.

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Speaker 1: I played two more seasons for Giants in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: but these are the only two that I have framed

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00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: and I always, you know, think of the Houston first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, even um, you know we're drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Former Texans linebacker Texans Legends community member Jay

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Speaker 1: Foreman visiting with Drew Doherty as part of the War

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Speaker 1: They Now podcast series. And you can get all of

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00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: that good stuff on Houston Texans dot com and the

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00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: Texans app, all of our podcasts, all of these shows,

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: all the videos from our Emmy Award winning video crew. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all there. And the articles too, including mine on

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Speaker 1: the five most Prolific Texans Villains enfranchise history from this

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Speaker 1: past Wednesday. So enjoy that. A lot to go over

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Speaker 1: next week, Johnny, We'll be back, will be on Let's

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Speaker 1: do It. Have a great weekend everyone, Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.