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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. It is twelve known Thursday in Buffalo, New York,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to One Bill's Live, our daily discussion of

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Speaker 1: events in the NFL and particular how they deal with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. John Murphy here, Good afternoon. Steave Tasker

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Speaker 1: called Steve Tasker. How are you today, sir? Doing good Murph.

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Speaker 1: It's good to be back on with you. It is

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Speaker 1: day yesterday is what we do. Yeah right. I mean

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Speaker 1: the stands. And I don't know if the broadcast partners

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Speaker 1: would go forward or not. And this just came to me, Murph,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about this? And instead of having

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Speaker 1: you know, you got the you got the normal camera

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Speaker 1: angles for the game. Right, you got like maybe sixteen

429
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Speaker 1: cameras for regular NFL game, maybe eight or ten cameras

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Speaker 1: for a regular NFL game, and then twenty five or

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Speaker 1: thirty for a Monday night, Sunday night game, Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: Now what would happen if on those regular games you

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Speaker 1: had you know, uh, the steady cams, about three or

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Speaker 1: four of those steady cams, and those would be focused

435
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Speaker 1: on every place that's happening on the field, the sidelines,

436
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: the huddles, the offensive You have more isolated cameras, and

437
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Speaker 1: when somebody scored, you could have shots of every player

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Speaker 1: on both teams and see how they reacted. Yeah, good

439
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: body language and all that, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So instead of having all these cameras that are just

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Speaker 1: you know, they got one that's on the scoreboard, you

442
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Speaker 1: got one that's on the head coach, which is fine.

443
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Speaker 1: But you'd have ground level cameras that would be right

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Speaker 1: in the bench areas, and when a guy scored a

445
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: touch down on your side in the end zone, you'd

446
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: run down there with all the players, you know, that

447
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of camera shot, and you could be since there's

448
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Speaker 1: no crowd roar like it or not. You might hear

449
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: what those guys you're cheering, you might not like with

450
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: their chairing right, exactly like it or not? Right? That

451
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: may be interesting, even if it is only interesting for

452
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: the first two touchdowns of the game, right they would

453
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Speaker 1: get into like third or fourth or fifth touchdown. When

454
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Speaker 1: it's thirty five to nothing, you know, it's not quite

455
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Speaker 1: so interesting, right, depending on which side of the scoreboard

456
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Speaker 1: you're on. We are in mid May, I would think

457
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Speaker 1: that in the next well, you got four months, so

458
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Speaker 1: the season begins. Some really talented television and radio people

459
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Speaker 1: are gonna get together and test this stuff and see

460
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Speaker 1: what it sounds like, what it looks like. But I

461
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Speaker 1: do have I agree with Joe Buck. Crowd noise is essential,

462
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Speaker 1: even if it's fake. I think I'm not saying overdo it.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, you know, directed one way or

464
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Speaker 1: the other. But I think you need a little bit

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Speaker 1: of Yeah, you call it a laugh track, but you

466
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Speaker 1: know you you got applause signs and TV shows all

467
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Speaker 1: over the place. You'd miss it if you and it's fay.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Well, when they put up they'd lighten

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Speaker 1: up the sign for the you know, the late night

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Speaker 1: talk shows applause, I mean they do you ever been

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Speaker 1: to those shows they have applause that yeah, it's prompted, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't I think you'd you'd miss it if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't there. And those shows you're right now listen for

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Speaker 1: a comedian that you're watching on TV for um, for

475
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Speaker 1: anything like that where they're supposed to be laughs. It's

476
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Speaker 1: also about having the performers pick up the cues from

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Speaker 1: the audience that they can use too, right, So there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more into it than that. That's not

479
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Speaker 1: like a live sporting of It is similar, but it's

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Speaker 1: not the same. I think it's I don't know, what

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Speaker 1: would you what would you have when they're between plays

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Speaker 1: when there is no cheering? Would it be silent then

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Speaker 1: and then murmuring of a crowd back. That's the strangest thing.

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Speaker 1: It'd be strange. Yeah, why would you sound like a

485
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Speaker 1: football game? If you don't do that, it will sound odd.

486
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Speaker 1: It will throw people off. I think, well, what happens

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Speaker 1: if it's the same thing? I mean, it would be

488
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Speaker 1: different because what if if and this is this is

489
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Speaker 1: a big one, what happens if like some bills fans

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Speaker 1: do I don't recommend it, but you can turn the

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Speaker 1: television volume down and turn John Murphy up. You don't

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Speaker 1: recommend I'm not saying we do that in our house.

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Speaker 1: We do. But you have to be good with the

494
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Speaker 1: VCR thing, right, the v DVR you yeah, so okay. Anyway,

495
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Speaker 1: so once you learn how to do that, you know,

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Speaker 1: a radio, the crowd noise on the radio is not

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Speaker 1: like that on TV, you know what I mean? How

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Speaker 1: so what do you mean? It's it's different, it's different.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if if it comes through as

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Speaker 1: loud on the radio or if it's it's as evident

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00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: on the radio as it is on it because your

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Speaker 1: voice cuts everything and as it should on and but

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Speaker 1: you have to kind of you have to keep talking

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Speaker 1: through that. Right on TV, those guys lay out because

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Speaker 1: of the visuals. You know. Again, I'm the analyst, and

506
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: I see a play, an intricate play that goes in,

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Speaker 1: goes in for a touchdown from twenty five yards out

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Speaker 1: and the and the home crowd is going bonkers. I

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Speaker 1: don't analyze that play for thirty forty seconds after that

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Speaker 1: play because they're cutting crowd shots. You can't do you

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Speaker 1: don't do that on radio, right, you do it a

512
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Speaker 1: little bit, not as much as they can do it

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Speaker 1: on TV. Right, So there's a difference there that that

514
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Speaker 1: speaks to how the crowd affects the broadcast. All this

515
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: is all this is nuanced stuff. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the big question is you're right. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: have it or do you not? How much of an

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Speaker 1: effect does it have on the game. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: have any effect on the game. And I think for

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Speaker 1: some people, for me, for instance, I want to see

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Speaker 1: what it's like silent, and I think for the first time,

522
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: perhaps it might be interesting for fans to listen to

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Speaker 1: the defensive signals at the same time the offense is

524
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Speaker 1: called in the snap count. Listen to the defensive checks

525
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: for the first time ever. Maybe we see you, of

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00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: course participated in practice, but you've watched practice, and you

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00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: see when big plays are made in practice, there's a

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00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: little cheering, Yeah, a good catch. Don't you think that

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Speaker 1: would be unnerving the fans. Ninety eight yard touchdown pass

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen to Stefan Diggs and it's just the bench going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a good job. I think people would say, well, that's

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Speaker 1: a little louder than that. On game day than the

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Speaker 1: than the practice a little, but not enough. I think

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Speaker 1: you need I really do. I don't know. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting it's a really interesting point. And I

536
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna get to that. You know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to see because it's gonna come. It's gonna happen.

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00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: You know it is gonna happen. Yeah, I don't know

539
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: how it's gonna look or how it's gonna sound and

540
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: one way or the other. But I think we're gonna

541
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Speaker 1: find out. I think we are going to find out. Hey,

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00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: we got good guests today, Andre Reid, Adam tight Cher

543
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: from Kansas City Chiefs, ESPN, NFL Nation, and Bert Wigham,

544
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: a trainer who's working with some Bills on tight youre

545
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Bills are going to play the

546
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Speaker 1: Chiefs on that Monday night game October. What is it?

547
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: October fifteenth schedule? Right here? Why am I asking? It

548
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: is October fifteenth, Thursday night, not Monday night. Here's our

549
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: question of the day. The Chiefs, Super Bowl champions, AFC

550
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: champions and the Bills. You know, we've chronicled it and

551
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot over the last few weeks

552
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: the high regard the bills, in which the Bills are

553
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: held by many nfl observers, there's the question of the day,

554
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: what do you think of this? Are the Bills close

555
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: to challenging the Chiefs for the AFC championship? If so, why,

556
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: what do you think are they close to challenging Kansas City?

557
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's a big jump from

558
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: losing a wildcard playoff game two of the last three

559
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Speaker 1: years to winning a Super Bowl. There's a lot there's

560
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of ground to cover there. Are they close

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Speaker 1: to challenging the Chiefs for the afel chat for the

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Speaker 1: AFC title? And if so, why they give us a

563
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: call on that? Eight oh three oh five fifty or

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

565
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: fifty vote in our Twitter poll, We've already got three

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Speaker 1: hundred sixty five votes, and it's interesting we said yes,

567
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: not even close. Or talk to me after they play

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00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: week six, October fifteenth, And how about the breakdown of votes?

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Speaker 1: Sixty five percent of our respond and say, hey, ask

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00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: me again, ask me after they play each other October fifteenth,

571
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Speaker 1: Thirsty Night Football in Orchard Park. Eighteen percent say yes

572
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: they are close to challenging the Chiefs. Sixteen percent say

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Speaker 1: not even close. So almost two thirds of you responding

574
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Speaker 1: on Twitter think instead game October fifteenth, six weeks into

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Speaker 1: the NFL schedule, that will tell the story of how

576
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: close the Bills are. It's a question that makes you

577
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: think a little bit right. Be nice to say sure

578
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: they are right, and people say, yeah, of course the

579
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Bills are close to challenging the Chiefs, and it'd be

580
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: easy to say no, not even close. They've been wildcard

581
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Speaker 1: game losers two of the last three years, didn't even

582
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs two years ago, and I don't know

583
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: week six does that game mean that much? Two thirds

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Speaker 1: of my response, I'd say, yes, are the Bills close

585
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Speaker 1: to challenging the Chiefs? What do you think, Steve, Yeah,

586
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Speaker 1: I'd talk to me after week six, but I don't

587
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Speaker 1: think you could say not even close. I think they're

588
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: gonna be close. I think they're gonna give the Chiefs

589
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: a really good game. The Bills have given everybody a

590
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: really good game. Whether they win or lose, they're ugh

591
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: to beat and I think that's going to continue. I

592
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: think that Thursday night game is going to be a

593
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Speaker 1: really good game. I think the game four days five

594
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: days before that on Sunday in Tennessee is gonna be

595
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: a really good game. I don't think there's a team

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Speaker 1: in the league right now on a consistent basis. Maybe,

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00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, you get a game where the Bills have

598
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Speaker 1: a rough game, like they did once last year, but

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a hard time beating this team. Their

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00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be too good and too well coached.

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00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: Their roster's gonna be too well schooled and too talented

602
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Speaker 1: to have you run off and score thirty five points

603
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: and they only score six. And you also have to

604
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: know that their offense got a little better this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Whether it comes together fast or not, whether they get

606
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: out to a fast start or not, they've got some

607
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: talent that's going to be a handful for anybody to match.

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: So I think to say it's not even close, I

609
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: think you got to be a Chiefs fan to say that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, uh, Because the Bills are in the

611
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: conversation along they're now, They're they're not leading the conversation.

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00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: You can't say I have a hard time saying, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: they're They're there. They are challenging for the Chiefs. I mean,

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00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: that's that's what the word is. Um, they're on the

615
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs are on their schedule. You're gonna find out for

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Speaker 1: sure where they stack up on that given Thursday night

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00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: where they play. But I think you've got to understand

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00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: two and see the writing on the wall, whether whether

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Speaker 1: we like to think that way, whether we have to

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: admit it, or whether we think it's unlucky or superstitious

621
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Speaker 1: not to mention it like that, like mentioned in the

622
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when you start training camp, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are a good football team. They proved it

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00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna be a good football team this year.

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00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna challenge everybody they face. And I don't think

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00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna walk here. I'll tell you this

627
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: right now, before that Thursday night came, the Chiefs are

628
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: are not going to walk into new air of field

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Speaker 1: and think, yeah, you know what, We're gonna roll our

630
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: helmets out and these guys are gonna go away main

631
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: thinking that because the Bills are legit. In fact, our

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00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: guests had one Adam Tightier picks the Bills to win

633
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: that game on October fifteenth. It's a good question. I

634
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: think I'd like to hear your response. The phone lines

635
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Speaker 1: open eight oh three oh five fifty outside Buffalo one

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with the trainer Bert Wiggham. He's based

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Speaker 1: in Florida. Out in California, are working with some prominent

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, including some draft picks. Bert Wigiham Standing Bible

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio hold back,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker working from home again today Radio

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Speaker 1: only Today. We'll get that. We'll get that fixed sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: Not that we're broken on the line with us now.

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Speaker 1: A guy who's look. Our exposure to Bills players has

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Speaker 1: been limited in the last couple of weeks. They are

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Speaker 1: in the off season conditioning program. But this guy's with

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Speaker 1: a couple of important Bills every day. Is a trainer

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Speaker 1: for speed and conditioning. He has worked with Bills in

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Speaker 1: the past and he's working with people like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, and some rookies right now out in southern California.

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Speaker 1: Happy to have Bert Wigham on the phone with us,

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Speaker 1: Bert John Murphy, Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo. Thanks

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Speaker 1: coming on with us, Yeah, no problem anytime. How did

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Speaker 1: you go ahead? Steve? How busy are you these days

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Speaker 1: with all these guys not having anything to do in

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Speaker 1: the off season except get ready and kind of hang

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Speaker 1: out in socially distance, How busy are you keeping? So

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Speaker 1: my relationship is more with Gabe and then Zach. That's

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Speaker 1: how this whole thing got started. I met Gabe five

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Speaker 1: years ago. He went to my high school and I

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Speaker 1: was doing NFL combine training at a place called tom

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Speaker 1: Shaw Performance at Disney Sports Complex in Orlando, Florida. And

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Speaker 1: when I met Gabe, it it just steamrolled. I mean

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Speaker 1: he never took a break. He just always trained Christmas break,

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Speaker 1: winter break, spring break. He always came out and worked

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Speaker 1: with the rookie. So his first, his first spring semester

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Speaker 1: with us, was the year we worked with Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry for the combine, two guys that have

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Speaker 1: made a name for themselves in the league, and Gabe

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Speaker 1: just was one of those guys that stuck around. And

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Speaker 1: this year Disney went in a different direction. We ended

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Speaker 1: up in Calabasas and that's how I met Zach Moss

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Speaker 1: and we did combined training with him this year. So

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Speaker 1: between those two, I've been pretty busy. And then it

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Speaker 1: was just after he got drafted, Gabe, Josh and Matt

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: Barkley read out reached out. So the first guy that

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Speaker 1: actually we went and worked with last week was John

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Speaker 1: Brown and he was like, come to because he's in

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Speaker 1: for Lauderdale. So we just drove down there and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure y'all know him as Smoke, but Smoke Relly was

685
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Speaker 1: working with Gabe on the finer things and and on

686
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Speaker 1: the offense and like running routes and being intricate with that.

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Speaker 1: And then this week we had already planned to come

688
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Speaker 1: work with Matt, and then Matt talked with Josh and

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Speaker 1: they all got together and it just so happens that Zac, Gabe,

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah Hodgens are all in you know, California, La area,

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Speaker 1: and so you've got three three rookies working with the

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Speaker 1: two the starter and the backup quarterback. So it's just

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Speaker 1: really become a unique situation this week in Bert. I

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Speaker 1: can see where the cornerbacks Barkley and Josh would be

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Speaker 1: interested in throwing to those guys Isaiah Hodgens and Gave

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Speaker 1: Davis in particular, and Zack Moss. What do you bring

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Speaker 1: to it? What do you add to their their passing

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00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: game workouts? Honestly, it's really it's really me learning from

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Speaker 1: from those two and taking control of this offense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: after every workout, the rookies and I will go to

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Speaker 1: the weight room and do some stuff, but the field

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Speaker 1: work is run by Matt and Josh and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: you see things just when guys run naturally like Isaiah,

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00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: I can tell he's more of a vertical runner. His

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Speaker 1: power is going into the ground instead of pushing pushing

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Speaker 1: forward to gain to gain ground. So, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: little things that I get to critique with that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback mechanics. I'm not working on a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to correct those guys. Um

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Speaker 1: there their vets. I mean, you know, Josh is he's

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Speaker 1: only going on his third year, but he acts like

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Speaker 1: a veteran with the way he's taking control of everything

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Speaker 1: and taking the leadership role. So on the field, I

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Speaker 1: think today actually I'm gonna do some agilities and some

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00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: cutting drills and stuff with them. But because it's their quarterbacks,

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00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: they need to throw and run routes with them and

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Speaker 1: learn the concepts more so than I actually do. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, you run a comeback in three or four steps.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not breaking down any of that stuff. They're

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Speaker 1: just they're just listening to the qbs pretty much. Who

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Speaker 1: and how much interaction do you have with coaching staffs

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Speaker 1: around the league? If any about and who decides? Is

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Speaker 1: it the players telling you what their strength and conditioning

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Speaker 1: coaches for individual teams have told you told them and

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Speaker 1: they relay that to you as to be say, listen,

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Speaker 1: I need to work on flexibility or route running or

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Speaker 1: cutting that kind of thing. Who decides where their needs

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Speaker 1: are and what they need to work on. So, I

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Speaker 1: mean they have to listen to their teams, that's first

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Speaker 1: and foremost. And I have some interaction with scouts and coaches.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they like me because I'm a

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Speaker 1: guy that I just preach going to work. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a pro, it's a lifestyle

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Speaker 1: and all the partying and drinking and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know that if that's what you want, you can

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Speaker 1: do that later in life. So I think they appreciate

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Speaker 1: my approach to it. And the workouts are kind of

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Speaker 1: from the teams are pretty vanilla. I mean, the strength

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Speaker 1: staff doesn't even get to meet him in person. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to diagnose what's wrong with a guy mechanically when

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Speaker 1: you when you're not even there. So I've seen some

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Speaker 1: of the workouts from a couple of different teams, and

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Speaker 1: they give them, you know, here are the seven lifts,

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00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: here are three different options of each lift you can do,

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Speaker 1: and then they get to choose, but you still, you know,

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Speaker 1: for rookies especially, it's like they still need someone to

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Speaker 1: push them in the weight room or you know, decide

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Speaker 1: if they need to go up and wait or go heavier.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I fall in. I just

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Speaker 1: I've been around enough players doing a NFL combine training

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Speaker 1: that you can an offseason work that you can you

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Speaker 1: just see the mechanics of a lot of guys that

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00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: are gluts don't fire. You would think they would because

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00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: they squatted the world, but really a lot of guys

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00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: run through their hamstring, which is the weakest part of

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Speaker 1: their leg. They need to push with their butt and

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00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: so that's like, you know, that's the stuff that the

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Speaker 1: coaches I'm sure would see but can't right now. So

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Speaker 1: that's where I fall in live with Bert Wigham. He's

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Speaker 1: a trainer working with a handful of Buffalo Bills out

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Speaker 1: in southern California. The work on the passing game from

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley and those receivers and Zack Moss,

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Speaker 1: it's exactly what When he spoke with the media a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Sean McDermot said, that's what's missing

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Speaker 1: this time of year, working on the timing of the

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Speaker 1: passing game. It really could suffer. It sounds like the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and now the rookie wide receivers at least I

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Speaker 1: have taken that to heart and trying to do something

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Speaker 1: about it, right Bert, Yeah, I mean exactly. I think

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Speaker 1: they all know, they all know what's at stake this year.

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Speaker 1: It's a big year in Buffalo for the team as

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Speaker 1: a whole. And know Josh is like he's flying down

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Speaker 1: to Fort Lauderdale or Miami this weekend to go work

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Speaker 1: with Digs and smoke and motor and those guys. So

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00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: they're just having to, you know, do their offseason a

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Speaker 1: little differently, but still go get work with the guys

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Speaker 1: and throw and get on the same page. And it's

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Speaker 1: a testament to the quarterbacks, I mean, and these young

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Speaker 1: guys that they're they're gonna make the sacrifice and travel

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Speaker 1: around to make it happen. Um, you know that it's

781
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: it's it's a profession, right, it's a lifestyle. And you know,

782
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: some people might not say if football is essential, but

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Speaker 1: it is to a lot of people in this country,

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Speaker 1: and you still need to approach it that way if possible,

785
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: if it's safe, right, you don't want to be unsafe.

786
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Speaker 1: But but you could just tell that that Josh and

787
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: Matt like they know they have a special team and

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00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: these rookies are just gonna fall in under them. And

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Speaker 1: and you know, like to me, Gabe isn't a rookie.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a guy that that all preach on.

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Speaker 1: And I'll talk about him all day. He'll probably get

792
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: annoyed of it, but it's like I met him five

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00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: years ago and he never took a break like that

794
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: says something about him. He worked with Sequon, he worked

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Speaker 1: with Dak Derek Henry, like these guys he saw come through,

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00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: and he's taking that same approach. So you know, if

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Speaker 1: Josh told him to go to Rino, Nevada or Boise, Idaho,

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Speaker 1: he would be there to throw with him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of player he is. That's what you'll

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Speaker 1: see when you get there. And when he gets up

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00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, y'all all witness it in real time. And

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00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: I know he and Isaiah and Zach, all three of them.

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Speaker 1: I had just asked Matt and Josh, like, how are

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Speaker 1: these guys in terms of rookies would know in the

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00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: playbook because it's a complicated playbook. It's really difficult. And

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00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: they both looked at me, like, these guys are getting it,

807
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: and that's that's tough to do, especially with like zoom

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Speaker 1: interviews and stuff like that. So I think that you'll

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00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: see those guys and the players that actually make an

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00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: effort to get together, you'll see them do really well

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Speaker 1: when the season starts. These guys that are approaching it

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Speaker 1: the right way. You seem to have had a you know,

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Speaker 1: an ongoing relationship with Gabe Davis, who is you know,

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Speaker 1: a sixth round draft pick of the Buffalo Bills. Give

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Speaker 1: us a little insight as to do you what are

816
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Speaker 1: his shortcomings? I mean, obviously he lasted to the sixth round.

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00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Does he lacked flat out speed? He's got some pretty

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Speaker 1: good size, and obviously he's a committed guy and he's

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Speaker 1: going to get the most out of whatever gifts he

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Speaker 1: does have. What's the next step for him other than

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Speaker 1: just really trying to make a Bill's roster? That's pretty

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Speaker 1: good right now. I think he's fine. He's he's ready

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean I think that the reason he

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Speaker 1: dropped it was a fourth round and the Isaiah was six,

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Speaker 1: Gabe was fourth, and I think that I think he's

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Speaker 1: ready now. I think guy like him he dropped to

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Speaker 1: the fourth round because you can't measure heart. It's like

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Speaker 1: they want to measure the forty yard dash. And I

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Speaker 1: get it because as a company we've made a lot

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Speaker 1: of money forty yard dashes with players. But there's something

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Speaker 1: to a sixty yard sprinter. The guys that are powerful

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Speaker 1: enough to accelerate through fifty five sixty yards, and that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of sprinter he is. There's also something to

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Speaker 1: be in to work in hard enough to learn what

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Speaker 1: the defender is going to do so that you can

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Speaker 1: beat him with skill off the line as well, and

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Speaker 1: not so much no elite speed. But I think you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh made the comment yesterday through a deep ball and

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Speaker 1: he said, I thought you were a four five guy.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, he doesn't run that way because he

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Speaker 1: can accelerate for a long time. And in terms of Gabe,

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00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: he's ready right now and like he was ready, and

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Speaker 1: you know, coming out of high school they said he

844
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Speaker 1: wasn't fast enough the play receiver. He should have went

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Speaker 1: to tight end. He's a freshman starter at UCF, a

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Speaker 1: true freshman starter and a true freshman captain. Name how

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Speaker 1: many freshmen you know that were captains on their college

848
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: football team and then a college football team that went

849
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen and old you rarely. I don't know

850
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: if you've ever heard of a guy like that. And

851
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: that says something about him too. He's been ready, He's

852
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: always approached at like a pro and I'm not concerned

853
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: at all that he'll be able to make the active

854
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: roster and contribute. I mean, he sees the big picture.

855
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: He knows. He just wants someone that in my opinion.

856
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: He wants someone that wanted him, and at the Combine,

857
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: the Bills were the first team that offered him an

858
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: official visit. I mean, his story is unique, and I've

859
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: witnessed it through from the beginning, or at least from

860
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: his junior year when he got heavily recruited. He wasn't

861
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: fast enough. Three year starter, four hundred yards and four

862
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns as a freshman, eight hundred and thirty and seven

863
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: as a sophomore, twelve hundred forty and twelve as a junior.

864
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the progression's gone up. He goes to the Combine,

865
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: the same thing happens, no official visits. The first day,

866
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: they put him at the small podium for media day, Like,

867
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: if you don't think that guy has a chip on

868
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: his shoulder, you're not paying attention to who Gabe is.

869
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: You know, he gets drafted and video comes out of

870
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: him running routes with McKenzie Milton, his quarterback, Like that's

871
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: not for show. That's who he is those thirty minutes

872
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: after he got drafted, Like that's the kind of guy.

873
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: The Buffalo fans are gonna love a guy that works

874
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: like that. I think it'll resonate with him, And you know,

875
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: for as a coach, it's easy. You don't you don't

876
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: have to coach him. You just monitor. If he's too sore,

877
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: he'll he'll let you know. If he needs to go harder,

878
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: he'll let you know it. And you just appreciate a

879
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: guy like that. And and you know that's me knowing

880
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: him for a long time, my short time I've known

881
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: Zach and Isaiah, They've they put the work into so

882
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's impressive. I saw, you know, for what

883
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: it's worth, I saw a statistic about Zach or about

884
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: um Gabe and Isaiah of players that the combine rated

885
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: above a six, which like a six point two five

886
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: on their scale, is basically a starter in the NFL,

887
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: should be a starter. The bill has got two guys

888
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: that were above a six in the four from the

889
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: sixth round, and from the work they're putting in, I

890
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: think that they'll they'll pan out that you can tell,

891
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: hey Bert, thanks for this. Thanks coming on, keep up

892
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: the good work. It's good to hear from it. We

893
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: may check in with you again sometime. Thank you, yeah, anytime.

894
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: Thanks you for a good one. Works with well five

895
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: bills now, Josh Allen, Matt Barkley, Zach Mots, Isaiah Hodgens,

896
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Speaker 1: and Game Davis. Some encouraging stuff there, Steve. He's working

897
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: with him and you know he's training them. He likes

898
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: what he sees. I really think the fact that Josh

899
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Allen and Matt Barkley took the incentive to bring these

900
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: guys in and work with them. And what do you say,

901
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: Josh is going to Florida next to throw a little

902
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: bit with the smoke with John Brown. That's good, right, Urpe.

903
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: It's always been that the best players work the hardest,

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: and they're the most committed, and the great players elevate

905
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: the guys around him. And he can tell that by

906
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you know, making these trips, taking the initiative

907
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: to go throw with his new rookie receivers and his

908
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: new rookie running back, getting to know them, getting them,

909
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: getting a handle on the on the playbook. Uh. It's

910
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna pay dividends someplace down down the line, and I

911
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: think it's us. It speaks well, not only those young players,

912
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: but also of Josh. So you know, can't you imagine

913
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks, even good quarterbacks, even guys we respect or

914
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: like might say, those are rookies, they can adjust to me.

915
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get traveled and adjust to them. They can.

916
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: They can adjust to me. Right the quarterback could get

917
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: away with that. Sure. Oh yeah. And some of them

918
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, done that, you know. I mean some

919
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: of them do that a lot. Yeah. They say, listen,

920
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: I'll throw with you, but you got to show up

921
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: up here or whatever. And that may be the best

922
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: you get out of them. Uh, you can throw on

923
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: my schedule, be ready. Uh, that kind of thing. Um,

924
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I think with the culture that Sean McDermott has instilled

925
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo and Josh Allen buying into the entire culture,

926
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Speaker 1: he has seen and taking hold of what his role

927
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: should be, and he's adapted to it. Um. He has

928
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: been a guy that is approachable by his teammates. He's

929
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: a guy that reaches out and makes his teammates feel welcome,

930
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: makes him feel like they can contribute, teaches them, helps

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00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: him along, tutors them when he can, and uh, and

932
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Speaker 1: and you know, has open conversations about what he's looking

933
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: for in a round, what he's talking about when he's

934
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: throwing this this route, what he sees in them, what

935
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: they can expect from him. You know, this is it's

936
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: all about a relationship that goes deeper than just football,

937
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: because then you understand more about the guy than just

938
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: what he's doing. You know when he jogs out of

939
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: the huddle and it's and it makes a big difference.

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00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: When you mix that amongst an entire roster, then the

941
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: entire roster um elevates and that and it all starts

942
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: with acts like what Josh is doing, going traveling around

943
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: throwing these guys in Florida. Ya gonna go throw with

944
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: John Brown and with the new guys Stefan Diggs. All right,

945
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: we got a break and we're coming back. One Bill's Live,

946
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: presented by Klaida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back,

947
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: one goes lot, John Murphy, Steve Tasker coming to you

948
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: until three o'clock today. We're gonna talk about the Kansas

949
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: City Chiefs in a couple of moments, and that takes

950
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: us into our Twitter poll today, what do you think

951
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: are the Bill's close to challenging the Chiefs for the

952
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: AFC title? And if so why? On Twitter, five hundred

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00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: thirty six respondents two thirty to sixty five percent say

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Speaker 1: you know what asked me again after week six? We

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Speaker 1: will after week six make a note of that, please,

956
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Producer Jay Harris. Bill's played the Chiefs at home on

957
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: Thursday night, October fifteenth. Burt next day, so what do

958
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: you think are they close to challenging for the AFC Championship?

959
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Sixty five percent say that, twenty percent say yeah, of

960
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: course they are, and fourteen percent say not even close.

961
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Speaker 1: What do you think Bowline's open eight o three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Can I say this about our last guest,

964
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Burt William talking about Josh Allen Steve. You got a minute,

965
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: let me just run this fire go ahead. I'm repeating

966
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: something I said a minute ago. It's just impressive to

967
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: me that Josh would, you know, stay or go to

968
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: southern California throw with rookies. The most vetter, you know,

969
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: the third year veteran now would say, hey, rookie, do

970
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: you want to throw? Well, no, you're a rookie. We'll

971
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: make it up whenever you get together. That he's going

972
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: to Florida to throw with Stefan Diggs and John Brown.

973
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: It just impresses me, you know. And yeah, I know.

974
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: It's um, I know, it's part of the culture and

975
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: everybody kind of working together. Same culture. Also says a

976
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: lot about Josh, I think, right, what makes him tick?

977
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: I think it does. Yeah, it does. And I think,

978
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a little bit of a different

979
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: world than when I played in the years before me,

980
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: where the quarterback was kind of this, you know, kind

981
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: of an executive and you kind of had to like

982
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: call ahead and see if you could actually get a

983
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: conversation with him kind of thing. And yeah, yeah, it's

984
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: not that way anymore. And I think Josh I does.

985
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I do think it says something about Josh because him

986
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: for him to be the one that goes to them

987
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: says a lot. And he's doing it with all those receivers,

988
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: with the you know, the top two with Steph Diggs

989
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: and John Brown and then these other two guys that

990
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: just got drafted might not make the team that right

991
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: to make the team, right, So he's gonna you know,

992
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: he's spending his own money to go out and travel

993
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: to these guys and and see how they're doing, and

994
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: finding his own accommodations to you know, uh, taking these trips.

995
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty amazing. It's leadership, Yeah, and I think

996
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: it says about a lot about his desire to get

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00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: better as a quarterback and also for his team to

998
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: win games. You know, it's hard not it's hard to

999
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: find fault with him doing stuff like this, certainly in

1000
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: the current climate. The only way he could say is like,

1001
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: maybe he shouldn't be exposing himself to it because he's

1002
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: got to, you know, get ready for the season. But

1003
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 1: still for him to take that initiative go out, spend

1004
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: the money, travel and throw for a week or so

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00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: with these young guys and his backup quarterback as well,

1006
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: I mean that that's not nothing, I know. And then

1007
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: going down to see John Brown and ve Von Dick's

1008
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: huge ye, that it really helps. At least there'll be

1009
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Speaker 1: groups of guys when they do come together as a team.

1010
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: The rookies won't be like, I don't know anybody in

1011
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: the room. Well, if you walk in and you're on

1012
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: first name basis with the quarterback and he gives you

1013
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: a hug and says, hey, man, comes, you know, sit

1014
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: with me, that goes a long way towards smooth and

1015
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: the surface for these guys's coming in and contributing that's

1016
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: a good sign. Is it good enough to challenge the Chiefs.

1017
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: That's our topic of the day. We're gonna talk about

1018
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Coming up next with Adam Tisher, ESPN NFL

1019
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: Nation Reporter. Stick around for that. Come on back our

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00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: number two coming up. One Bill's Live presented by Collata Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. The update from One Bill's Live.

1022
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers owner says there could be enough There

1023
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: should be enough coronavirus tests by the fall so that

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: NFL teams can play games in stadiums with some fans.

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00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Panther's owner David Temper says, you won't play having full stadiums,

1026
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you can't have some fans in

1027
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: the stadium either. That's what he told CNBC yesterday. Panther's

1028
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: one of twenty NFL teams with open air stadiums, and

1029
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: Temper says that if you're comfortable on a plane and

1030
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: a closed airplane, maybe you might get comfortable in an

1031
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: open air stadium. NFL has not officially said when players

1032
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: and team personnel can return to their facilities for offseason workouts.

1033
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: In fact, the league today Commissioner a round to Goodell

1034
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: issued a reminder that nothing is open yet and don't

1035
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: jump the gun when it comes to coming back to

1036
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: start training. NFL looking at all contingency plans in case

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Speaker 1: the pandemic worsens. The governor of Florida thinks the state

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00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: is open. He says the state is open to professional

1039
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Speaker 1: sports teams. On Tuesday, Arizona's governor and outset professional sports

1040
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: may resume in the state, and now the governor of

1041
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: Florida around the Center says his state is open to

1042
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: pro sports teams to phase one plan to reopen the

1043
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: state on Monday of this week. Logan Ryan still a

1044
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: free agent. He says going to the Dutch makes sense,

1045
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: but he did remind folks that he is open for business.

1046
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: Logan Ryan was not resigned by the Tennessee Titans. He

1047
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: says he would accept a one year deal making the

1048
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: same ten million dollars he was earning on average in

1049
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: his three year deal with the Titans. He says he's

1050
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: still a free agent. He's ready to listen to pitches

1051
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: from thirty one NFL teams. And former first round draft

1052
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: pick defensive end Taco Charlton told the Kansas City Chiefs.

1053
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: They would get the best version of him, something maybe

1054
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and Miami Dolphins did not get in

1055
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: his previous NFL stops. He says, my foot is on

1056
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: the gas for this one. Charlton lasted just two seasons

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Speaker 1: in Dallas. He had four sacks in twenty seven games.

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00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: He had five sacks in his ten games with Miami

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00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: last year. But the Dolphins just waived him. And there

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Speaker 1: you go. That is the update from one Bill's life.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker ready to start our number two

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00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: joined on the line by ESPN's NFL Nation reporter covering

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, Adam Tischer. In his twenty fifth

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00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: season covering the Chiefs. Adam, you wrote that you talked

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00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 1: to Taco Charlton. It sounds like he's ready to start

1066
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: his NFL career off over again. Huh. Yeah. He's promising

1067
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: things will be different this time around, that they'll be

1068
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, he'll be a better player than he was

1069
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and with the Dolphins last year. And

1070
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: he um, you know, I mean, I know we've heard

1071
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: this from millions of players over the years, so we'll see.

1072
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: But one admission, he didn't make because he said he

1073
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: didn't always put you know, put forth a strong effort

1074
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: when he was with the Cowboys and with the Dolphins,

1075
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: and now he said he kind of understands this is

1076
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: probably going to be his last chance and he doesn't

1077
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: make good on it, then his career might be over. So,

1078
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's figured it out. I don't know,

1079
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: we'll see what is his real top end, Adam Oh,

1080
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, probably just as

1081
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: a situational pass rusher. Probably, I mean, you know, if

1082
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: he can come in and help the Chiefs on third downs,

1083
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's certainly welcomed. Thing hard to know right now.

1084
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: You know, Chiefs have some depth at his positions, so

1085
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: he's going to have to come in and earn a spot.

1086
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anyone's going to be given

1087
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: to him. I know, nothing's going to be given to him,

1088
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, if he didn't play well, if he's not

1089
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: working hard, I don't see any reason the Chiefs wouldn't

1090
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: move on from him. And just giving your assessment of

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00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: the Kansas City roster, they weren't hurt by free agency, right.

1092
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: They lost about ten tea contributors to their super Bowl

1093
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: Championship last year. Yeah, they lost Kendall Fuller, who was

1094
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: kind of an extra defensive back. He'd kind of been

1095
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: a nickel back for them, but got hurt and then

1096
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, sort of played a variety of

1097
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: roles towards the end of the season, played some safety.

1098
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: He had an interception in the Super Bowl, so you

1099
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: know he's going to be a loss for sure. They

1100
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: lost a manual odd defensive end who played well for

1101
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: them over the first half of the season, and then

1102
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: he got hurt the season was over and he moved

1103
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: on to the Dolphins. So you know that those are

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00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: really the two guys that the Chiefs lost of a

1105
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: significance from last year. You know, they've they've got twenty

1106
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: and twenty two starters from the Super Bowl back thirty

1107
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: six or the forty six guys we're in uniform, so

1108
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to run it back and do it

1109
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: the same way they did it last year. Basically, we

1110
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: noticed that you're in an article and when you go

1111
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: down your own team, like you with the Kansas City

1112
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs us with the Buffalo Bills, you go down the

1113
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: list and everybody goes, you know, win here, loss here,

1114
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: win here, lost there, and nobody. And while everybody has

1115
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for the Kansas City Chiefs and

1116
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: then knows that they could beat anybody that's on their

1117
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: schedule and maybe and beat all of everybody on their schedule,

1118
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: you don't think they're really going to go undefeated. Where

1119
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: are some of the losses? Do you see as a

1120
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: guy who watches the Chiefs, who looks like a tough

1121
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: game on your schedule? Well, yeah, there's so many variables.

1122
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: You just don't know right now. You know, is the

1123
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: schedule going to be played as it is or are

1124
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to lose some weeks around? So it's

1125
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: there's so many variabs you just don't know. But you're right.

1126
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we did go through that at ESPN, and

1127
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: I did go through a game by game and made

1128
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: some predictions knowing that it's really way too where they

1129
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: but it's still fun to talk about. And I had

1130
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs going twelve and four, and one of the

1131
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: games I had them losing was that Thursday night game

1132
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and um, I think it's week six, maybe

1133
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: week seven, one of the two middle of October. I

1134
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: just feel like, particularly given the short week. I think

1135
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: those short weeks that the advantage goes to the teams

1136
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: that don't have to travel, and so Chiefs are the

1137
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: ones that are gonna have to get on the plane

1138
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: and go play. And if they're fans in the stands,

1139
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: you know that the bill Sands are going to be

1140
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: ready to go for that one. So you know, I'm

1141
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: looking forward to you know, if it comes to this,

1142
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to a night game in at bill Stadium.

1143
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: I've seen some preseason games there at night, but never

1144
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: a regular season game. I want to see what that

1145
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: place kind of as like for a real night game.

1146
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward that that's one of the biggest

1147
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: games of the year. To me, I'm looking forward to

1148
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: that one. I really want to see what that place

1149
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: is like, uh, for a big game in a primetime setting.

1150
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: You know what it's like anam It's a lot like

1151
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium, to be honest with you. Hopefully there'll be

1152
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: some fans there October fifteenth, but it's a little bit

1153
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: like Arrowhead, you know, in terms of noise and crowd intensity.

1154
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: That's probably that's one of the reasons I'm looking for it,

1155
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to that game so much. You know,

1156
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: the Monday night games and the Thursday night games here

1157
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: are like they're they're like national holidays. You know, nobody

1158
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: gets to work, everybody plays golf and starts drinking and

1159
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: does all that. And I'm I'm assuming it's just identical

1160
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. So I can't wait to see it. I

1161
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: hope it comes to pass with anam Times, your ESPN

1162
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: NFL Nation reporter, and let me get you involved in

1163
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today talking about the Chiefs. We're asking

1164
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: our fans the Bills close to challenging the Chiefs for

1165
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship and if so, why? Got about five

1166
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 1: hundred and six hundred votes in so far two thirds

1167
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: of I responded, say, you know what, talk to me

1168
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: after week six, talk to me after October fifteen. See

1169
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: how the Bills handled the Chiefs up here. What do

1170
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: you think? Would you say they're close to challenging. I

1171
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: don't know about close. I just feel like the Chiefs

1172
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: and the Ravens or sort of head and shoulders maybe

1173
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: above the rest of the AFC, and then the Bills

1174
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: would be in that group that would be right behind.

1175
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: And how close they are It's hard to say. I

1176
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't say they're close. I'm not slow on Josh Allen.

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01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: Haven't seen a lot of him, but what I've seen

1178
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: of him, I've not been real impressed. I did catch

1179
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: the game against the Patriots late in the season, the

1180
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: one I believe it was in New England, maybe next

1181
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: to last weekend of the season, a Sunday night game,

1182
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: right if or maybe late after no That was a

1183
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: Saturday night game year the Bills and the Patriots. Yeah,

1184
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I was in Chicago. The Chiefs

1185
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: played the Bears the next day. But at any rate,

1186
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm not real impressive Josh Allen. I think he's got

1187
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: a waste to go. He's got to uh uh, you know,

1188
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: improve if the Bills are going to make that leap

1189
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: and get into that elite area of the NFC of

1190
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: the AFC, because uh, you know, the one thing the

1191
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: page the Ravens have and the one thing the Chiefs

1192
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: have is that elite quarterback right now. And I think

1193
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: that's something that's going to take really the Bills or

1194
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: any team to get into that elite this year, is

1195
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: to get that elite kind of play from the quarterback.

1196
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: Chiefs Clark Hunt has noticed that not only the Chiefs

1197
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: have been good for a handful of years now since

1198
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Andy Reid got Pat Mahomes. In the last couple of years,

1199
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: the last two or three years, they've been extremely good.

1200
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: So they're kind of used to this. But now they're

1201
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: the world champions is does thing? Do things change for

1202
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: them as they walk into these teams? And Clark Hunt

1203
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: made the comment about being the hunted in instead of

1204
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: the hunters. M that's somewhere the Bills would like to

1205
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: get to or the Chiefs. You think the Chiefs can

1206
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: handle that. Certainly with Patrick Mahomes, that gives them the

1207
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: idea that they probably can. Yeah, I think the Chiefs

1208
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: can handle that. I don't think they'll have a difficult

1209
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: time handling success. I'm in that regard. I think they'll

1210
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: be ready to play. You just wonder a little bit,

1211
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, having won a championship, what does that do

1212
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: to your hunger? What does that do to your fire?

1213
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: You know? And and I think the Chiefs have guys

1214
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: who can handle that, you know. I think Pat Mahomes

1215
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: won't let that you distracted him. And guys like Travis

1216
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Tyree Hill. I think they're all good enough

1217
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: and you know, slrong enough mentally to to sort of

1218
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 1: resist that temptation. But in this year of all years,

1219
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: when there's no offseason practice and you really you know,

1220
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: coaches can't sort of keep their eyes on players and

1221
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: and sort of h you know, steer them back on

1222
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: a more disciplined path if they maybe veering off a

1223
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: little bit, you just don't know. So I think that's

1224
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: going to be one of the unknowns for the Chiefs

1225
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: going forward here is, uh, you know, how do they

1226
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: handle that part of it? You know, will they come

1227
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: back with the same fun Let's face it. I mean,

1228
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: they have a huge chip on their shoulder going into

1229
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: last season. The way the previous year ended with that

1230
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: overtime loss in the AFC Championship Game to the Patriots.

1231
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs really felt like, uh, you know

1232
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: that they should have won that game and they you know,

1233
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: could have won a Super Bowl for a second straight year.

1234
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: So um so, you know, that was a big part

1235
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: of what they achieved last season and what just the

1236
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: only time I'll tell whether they still have that same fun.

1237
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: Live with Adam Tischer, who covers the Chiefs Tansas City

1238
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs National Reporter for ESPN Adam. We've talked a little

1239
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: bit about that Week six game Kansas City at Buffalo,

1240
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: first time that Johns Allen matches up against Patrick Mahomes.

1241
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: Just give me your thoughts on that matchup. You obviously

1242
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: think and I think most of us think Mahomes has

1243
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: the edge. But one thing we've seen here in Buffalo

1244
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: is that Josh Allen sort of rises to the occasion.

1245
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: He might write to the occasion that Thursday night. Yeah,

1246
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. I mean, he certainly could.

1247
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking for the Chiefs to improve defensively

1248
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: through last year. You know, they sort of threw up,

1249
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: sort of built a whole new defense last year, between

1250
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of new players and a new coaching staff

1251
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: and a new system. They really sort of almost started

1252
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: some scratch on defense last year, and you know, it

1253
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: took him a while to really find their game, and

1254
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: they did over the last maybe five six weeks in

1255
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: the regular season and then a little bit at times

1256
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: during the playoffs. So I'm looking for them to be

1257
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: better right out of the gate this year. So I

1258
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: think it'll be a good challenge, It'll be a good

1259
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: game in that respect, and I can't wait to see

1260
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs there on offense against the Buffalo's defense. I

1261
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a great matchup as well.

1262
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll just I did pick the Bills

1263
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: to win that game, but you know they're going to

1264
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: have to outplay the Chiefs in some other areas because again,

1265
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: I just think the Chiefs will have the significant advantage

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Speaker 1: of quarterback. Yeah, and that quarterback is so important. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: a guy winning the MVP, coming through and then winning

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl championship the next year, how important is it?

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Speaker 1: Obviously not how important is it, but how big a

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Speaker 1: rush is there to re sign Mahomes to a new contract. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have given out some mixed signals on that.

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Speaker 1: They called it a priority, and yet Clark Hunt has said,

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Speaker 1: you know, he said two days before the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: he didn't expect it to happen until next year, and

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Speaker 1: then even during the draft he said he didn't he

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure it was going to happen in the next

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Speaker 1: three months or even the next six months. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just the Chiefs have given out mixed signals. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing about that is this is not the

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Speaker 1: time with all the uncertainty. This is not the time

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Speaker 1: to be handling out a contract like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: teams don't know what the salary cap is going to be,

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Speaker 1: and you know, for the last several years you could

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Speaker 1: count on a consistent you know, ten million, twelve million

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Speaker 1: dollars jump in a salary cap. Well, I don't know now,

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Speaker 1: and now this year you may be looking at a

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Speaker 1: salary cap and drop going in the next season. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to get. How the

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Speaker 1: league's going to handle that, Whether maybe they look out

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Speaker 1: a deal with the players to sort of, you know,

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Speaker 1: take some of the future caps and put it in

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Speaker 1: the next year, I don't know. But at any rate,

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Speaker 1: there's so much uncertainty it just seems like it's really tough.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the wisdom in handling out handing out

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Speaker 1: contracts right now until there's more certainty about how this

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Speaker 1: season is going to go and where the revenues are

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Speaker 1: going to be and what the cap might look like

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Speaker 1: next season. So my senses, it's probably going to have

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Speaker 1: to wait. You know, Mahomes has been to no Faull,

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. They couldn't they couldn't resign him to

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Speaker 1: a new contract the last couple of years, even if

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Speaker 1: they wanted to. But he's been the biggest bargain in

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Speaker 1: the league in terms of his contract, maybe in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league. And you know, now it's his

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Speaker 1: turn to get paid, but unfortunately he just might have

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Speaker 1: to wait. With Adam Tisher, ESPN's NFL Nation Reporter covers

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Adam, we had we had our friend Tyler

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Speaker 1: Dunn on the show the other day talking about the

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Speaker 1: the article he wrote regarding former Bills first round pick

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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Now, of course we're the Chiefs. I wonder

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Speaker 1: did you have him to look at that article and

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Speaker 1: what kind of reaction that article may have encountered in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City where Sammy plays right now, what did you think? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did read and it was certainly interesting and hum

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Speaker 1: concertainly explained why the Bills uh, you know, didn't want

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Speaker 1: you know, got rid of him when they did. Um,

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Speaker 1: that certainly makes a lot of sense. Now, I you know,

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Speaker 1: I like Sammy Watkins. I think, uh, since he's been

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Speaker 1: here at least I can only speak to his two

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Speaker 1: years with the Chiefs. He's been one of the more

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Speaker 1: thoughtful guys on the team. I always ensuyally talking to him.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I get some insight when I talk

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Speaker 1: to him. So I've always enjoyed Sammy Latkins. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a real thoughtful guy. And of all the things

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Speaker 1: he said, he's kind of said that he took a

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Speaker 1: back seat in his role coming here, that he's kind

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Speaker 1: of deferred to Travis Kelsey and Tyree Hill and maybe

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Speaker 1: some other guys. And now it's going to be World

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Speaker 1: War three if he doesn't get the ball more this year.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what that's all about. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to talk to him myself and hear whether he

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Speaker 1: intends to cause some trouble, you know. But he's been

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Speaker 1: really good not complaining about his role or how much

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Speaker 1: he's not getting the ball since he's been here, and

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Speaker 1: he's talked about how he did that with the bills,

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Speaker 1: that he didn't complain, and he said he's not going

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Speaker 1: to be that guy in a movie. He understood that

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Speaker 1: when he came here, that you know, he was coming

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Speaker 1: into a different type situation. It wasn't necessarily being asked

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Speaker 1: to be the number one guy or be the big

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Speaker 1: staffs guy. And he was okay with that. That he

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Speaker 1: was okay with that because he came here, you know,

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Speaker 1: they sort of explained to him that they had other

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Speaker 1: miles to feed here with the Chiefs and he might

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01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: not always be first in line. So that was an

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: interesting comment to me. That was sort of on a

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Speaker 1: character from what I've heard from him. So I can't

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Speaker 1: wait till until the time I can talk to him

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Speaker 1: because I do need to ask him about that part

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: of it. Well, the Chiefs won a world championship last

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Speaker 1: year and Sammy Watkins was a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: If there was only one if there's one piece maybe

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: missing on that Chief's offense, it might have been a

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Speaker 1: dominant running back. But they drafted Clyde Edwards Hilaire to

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Speaker 1: be a one two punch hill Lad, did you go

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Speaker 1: into the backfield with Damian Williams. What will that do

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs that they can get their run game

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Speaker 1: instead of being twenty third in the league, maybe into

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Speaker 1: a top twelve or thirteen, maybe even a top ten

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Speaker 1: running team. How good could this offense be? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I agree. I mean that's kind of the I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say untapped, but that's sort of the

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Speaker 1: area that's a room for growth for the Chiefs. You know,

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Speaker 1: they they were twenty third in the league and running

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Speaker 1: rushing and they are you know, we're there. Running backs

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Speaker 1: were on the lower end of the lower half of

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Speaker 1: the league. I can't remember in the number nineteen twenty

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Speaker 1: or something like that, and uh in a number of catches.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know that that is an area of

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Speaker 1: growth for the Chiefs. They can certainly turn there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, when when Pat Mahomes does throw the to

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Speaker 1: his backs, I mean the numbers are outstanding. I mean

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Speaker 1: his uh I think he's sixteen last the last two years.

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Speaker 1: I think he's sixteen touchdowns, no interceptions were targeting him back.

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Speaker 1: You know, his um yards per attempt are very high.

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Speaker 1: So uh um, you know that is an area and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs got a guy they think is going to

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Speaker 1: be a great fit into their offense, who versatile and

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Speaker 1: line them up anywhere they want and not just out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield. So m gonna be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how much they can get out of him. I know

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs sort of would like to get to have

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Speaker 1: him on the field right now during OTAs and sort

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Speaker 1: of get him going in the offense. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I just wonder about how quickly not only Clyde Edwards Lair,

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Speaker 1: but any rookie around the league can can get up

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Speaker 1: to speed and what kind of impact they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: without at least OTAs this year and maybe Camp's delayde

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Speaker 1: who knows? And am overview that the Chiefs, you know,

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Speaker 1: twelve wins last year, six game win streak at the

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: end of Super Bowl run. Hill, will they get better

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Speaker 1: this year or just more the same? What do you think? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think they'll be better defensively, and I

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01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: don't see any reason here. We talked about that, and

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason they'll pick step back offensively, So,

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Speaker 1: you know, barring the things we just don't know about.

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: You know, again, how they handle this, uh, this whole

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: situation going on right now, how they hand a success,

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Speaker 1: m injuries, you know that kind of thing. Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't see any reason they're gonna take a step back.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily really mean they're gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl again. I mean

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: they might certainly, Yeah, you know, they'll be uh, you know,

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: one of the AFC's the dominant teams. I think at

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01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: very least but you know, so I you know, they've

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of good young players. I think they've

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Speaker 1: done a nice job sort of juggling their salary cap

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01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: and keeping what they felt like they had to have

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: and letting some other guys go. So um. I think

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Speaker 1: this thing is set up for a pretty good run

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, not just in twenty twenty, but down

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Speaker 1: the road as well. Now that you know they have

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: to draft well and and all of that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: if they can, I think they the Chiefs can have

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Speaker 1: some success doing food for sure. Adam, thanks for this,

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Speaker 1: good luck and stay healthy. Thanks coming up. Appreciate it, Adam, Thanks, guys,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it anytime, guys. Adam Tysher, ESPN's NFL Nation Reporter

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Speaker 1: covers the Kansas City Chiefs and his twenty fifth year

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Speaker 1: of covering the Kansas City probably the highlight I would

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: think this past year steat Chiefs won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You think right now? I want to I had to

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01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: have been in the last two or three years. Yeah,

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01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: and you know you got this quarterback letting get up.

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: He did say a couple of things, which well, I

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: need to discuss with you, and we'll do that when

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Speaker 1: we come back. All right, you up for that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do Can you guess what I want to talk about?

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: Probably about his page about Josh Allen I was that's

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Speaker 1: part of it. Yeah, we'll come back and talk some

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 1: more about that. You can get involved too. Are the

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Speaker 1: Bills ready to challenge the Chiefs for supremacy in the AFC?

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: Can they challenge the Chiefs for the NFC title? If so,

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Speaker 1: how and why? Give us a call to discuss eight

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Speaker 1: radio only presented by collid to Health. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Welcome back and one of those lives he

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01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: task along with John Murphy. We just got off the

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: phone with Adam Tisher's head of a lot to say

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01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: about the Kansas City Chiefs and the Bills game coming

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Speaker 1: up on week six, October fifteenth, Thursday night. Us Murph

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Speaker 1: and I jumped back into this. We had a couple

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01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: of things we want to talk about about. What Adam

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: Tisher said about the Kansas City Chiefs, about their quarterback

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01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: and some of the other quarterbacks around the AFC, most

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Speaker 1: notably Josh Allen and and uh, Lamar Jackson said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, far from Look, the Chiefs won the Super Bowl,

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: you know, God bless him. That's great, and I was

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: happy for him and they you know, they hadn't really

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: contended that deep for a while. And obviously it's a

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: place you'd like to be. But they call Lamar Jackson

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes elite quarterbacks. I don't know. Well, Homes

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 1: is elite, um, and he's good, He's really good. And

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is not elite. I don't care what you say.

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Speaker 1: And dismiss Josh Allen is just another guy compared to Mahomes.

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01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: All Right, I get it, but not really. I mean,

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen I think is an emerging star in the league.

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a lot better. Um. I

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: just think Adam tishert I respect him and I'm glad

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: he came up show they think he's a little bit um.

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Speaker 1: How good the Chiefs are gonna be this year? Now?

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Speaker 1: How good they were last year? They were very good?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Steve, I don't think he is.

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Speaker 1: He portrays it. Yeah, it's well, it's never easy, but

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Speaker 1: I get what you mean. And let's face it. We've

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Speaker 1: sat here in the AFC East for a long time

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01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: and saw what a great quarterback can do for a

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Speaker 1: team up in New England. He covers up, he covers

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Speaker 1: up a multitude of problems they have. And as long

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Speaker 1: as they've got guys like third option on the offense,

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Speaker 1: their fourth option on the offense is a guy like

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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Um, they're gonna be hard to beat. I

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Speaker 1: think one of the things that gets them is, you know,

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: they let Mitch Morrise walk through free agency two years ago.

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that I don't think a

1476
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: running back was their problem. I don't think spending a

1477
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: draft pick on the running back was their elixir. I

1478
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: think they need to make sure Pat Mahomes has a great, big,

1479
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: dominant offensive line in front of them. They've got all

1480
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: these weapons, and they're all tagged on their rookie deals,

1481
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 1: even the quarterback. You know, and I not for nothing,

1482
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: A running back isn't really what makes your running game, Murph,

1483
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: as crazy as that sounds, it's the offensive line you

1484
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: can get, you know, I mean, guys do it all

1485
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: the time. You got great running backs who can run

1486
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: the football, who are not top five picks in the

1487
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: draft or not top twenty picks in the draft. So

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: I just I mean, there's no question the Chiefs are

1489
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: gonna be good. They're gonna contend, They're gonna be I

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: think a high seed in the AFC. I would like

1491
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: to see, given their culture, some of the guys they've

1492
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: got on their team, I'd like to see how they

1493
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: handle this success this year, this offseason, plus in this

1494
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: in this hard offseason, this one where it's gonna fall

1495
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot on the player's shoulders to stay ready. I'd

1496
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: like to see how they handle it. I don't know

1497
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: if they will or not. That's the question for me,

1498
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: is to how they're going to handle the success of

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. You know, he picked up something

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: we talked about Sammy Watkins at length two days ago

1501
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: on the show from the Buffalo standpoint, and you know,

1502
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: we don't have to replay that. I guess I read it.

1503
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: It didn't register with me, but he's right, Sammy. In

1504
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: that article that Tyler dunrote, a great article they interviewed

1505
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: with Sammy Watkins, Sammy said there would be World War three.

1506
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: It could be World War three this year. If he's

1507
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: not getting the ball enough. That's like a warning light.

1508
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: That's a red flatting right look out, Sammy saying I

1509
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: might put up a stink if I don't get the

1510
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: ball enough. There you go. That's how you talk about

1511
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: how do they handle their success? There was a red

1512
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: flag right there. They may not handle it as well

1513
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: with a guy like Sammy Watkins. Yeah, but Sammy was

1514
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: Sammy is the third option, fourth option on that offense.

1515
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: The way it is, how what's he thinks going to change?

1516
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: And I think as soon as he gets back into

1517
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: you could read it in that article how hot and

1518
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: cold he ran. I mean, one moment he was furious.

1519
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: In the next moment it was all forgotten. He may

1520
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: have flashes where where he says some stuff, but I

1521
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think he holds enough sway

1522
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: in the locker room of the Kansas City Chiefs for

1523
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: them to worry too much about how upset he is,

1524
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: you know. So I think he's in. I think he's

1525
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: in for a rude awakening. Maybe, but maybe they will

1526
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: give him the ball ten times a game. I don't

1527
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: see it, but maybe they will. Maybe they will, And

1528
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be in a position

1529
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: to cause all that much problems. Certainly, he may try to,

1530
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: but if he likes Andy Reid as much as he

1531
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: says he does, and Andy Reid is the kind of

1532
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: players coach that he has been reported to be, he'll

1533
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: handle it. And Yeah, Sammy, listen, Murph world breaking having

1534
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: World War three breakout because he doesn't get enough targets

1535
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: is the least controversial thing in that article for me.

1536
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: You're looking at it from the perspective I think Yeah,

1537
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, we're talking a lot about

1538
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs today. The Bills play him Thursday night in

1539
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: October fifteenth. Why didn't know from you what you think

1540
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: of that matchup? Got a nice tweet here from a

1541
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: gentleman responding to Adam Tisher's interview, and rage blackademic tweets

1542
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: in how can your guests say that the Ravens are quote,

1543
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: head and shoulders above the Bills when we came close

1544
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: to beating them? I understand the Chiefs, but regardless of

1545
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: his opinion on Josh Allen, you have to factor in

1546
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, I agree. I think Adam tysher and

1547
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: they're they're the Super Bowl champs. I think he has

1548
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: an overblown view of how good the Chiefs are going

1549
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: to be, and maybe an underwhelming of you on what

1550
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: the Bills could be, you know, and we could both

1551
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: be guilty of our own biases here, right, Oh sure,

1552
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean everybody everybody likes their own team better than

1553
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: everybody else, and this and has you know, a lot

1554
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: of rocks to throw at other teams, franchise. That's just

1555
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: the way it is. I'm certainly the Chiefs have been

1556
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: good now for what three years in a row, really

1557
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: good for three years in a row. Alex Smith one year,

1558
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: then Pat Mahomes as the MVP, and in the Super

1559
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: Bowl year. They're very good and and they're gonna remain

1560
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: good and they know it. The question is, and this

1561
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: is what happens to good teams. You tend to forget

1562
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: about the strides everybody else is making. You don't pay

1563
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: as much attention to other teams as you do your

1564
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: own because your own team is the center of attention

1565
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: to the whole league and the and the national media.

1566
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: So you don't pay any attention to any of the

1567
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: other teams that may be creeping up on you, or

1568
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: maybe they have been doing some really good things. So

1569
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what where it sounded like Adam was

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01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills, and you know, and him like

1571
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: another lot of other people. Plus, a team that lives

1572
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: with its defense like the Bills have sometimes gets overlooked

1573
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: because you think, you know what they're we're just gonna

1574
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: score enough points to win, and without taking into effect

1575
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: how good and how solid that defense has been. I

1576
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs have got to be in the camp

1577
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: that says, listen, you're gonna have to score with us,

1578
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: because we're gonna put thirty five up on everybody. And

1579
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna be the case if

1580
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: they play a team with the elite defense like the Bills.

1581
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: And the one thing we didn't examine before we talk

1582
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: to Adam, I'm sure he has, but their schedule, their

1583
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: schedules tough, Steve. They open up Thursday night at m

1584
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: they know that they're home against Houston, all right, not

1585
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: an easy game. Then they go to the Chargers, play

1586
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: the Chargers and what I would think would be their

1587
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: home opener. Then they'd play at Baltimore, tough game. Then

1588
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: they're home against New England, then they're home against the Raiders,

1589
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: then they come to Buffalo. That's just the start of it.

1590
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: That's probably the most difficult part of it, really, the

1591
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: first five to six games or so. But that's not easy.

1592
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: They also have, you know, obviously rematches with the Broncos

1593
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: and the Chargers on the schedule. They play a game

1594
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: at New Orleans late in the year in December. The

1595
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna be up against it. I think the

1596
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: match their twelve wins. What do you think? Yeah, I mean,

1597
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: it's it's always hard to win twelve games in the league.

1598
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get away with something. You're gonna

1599
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: have to win on days when you don't play well.

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01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win against teams that really put

1601
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: a good effort in on you, gonna have a great

1602
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: game plan, You're gonna have to get some breaks. You're

1603
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to you know, the kicks when they matter,

1604
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So, yeah, twelve wins is tough

1605
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: to get to. Um certainly, they've got the talent to

1606
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: do it. They proved it last year and they haven't.

1607
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: They've changed over some players and like most teams, Murph

1608
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: like Gust included the Bills, you feel like some of

1609
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: the replacements you've got are upgrades. Certainly, the Bills feel

1610
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: that way that you you know, you trade out Zach

1611
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: Moss for at Frank Gore, that you got to feel

1612
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: like that's a plus, and others. The four defensive lineman

1613
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: they've brought in, including a j Epenessa who's a rookie

1614
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: and you lost Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson. Um, you're

1615
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: bringing in four guys who have been productive, three guys

1616
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: that have been productive in the league, and a high

1617
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: draft pick or a second round draft pick fifty fourth

1618
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: overall in aj Epenessa, who was said to be maybe

1619
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: a first round pick. So the Bills, that's why the

1620
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Bills feel like maybe they're getting better. You'd trade for

1621
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: a guy like Stefan Diggs and he goes to the

1622
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: top you're receiving list in the guys who upgraded you

1623
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: last year go one notch down to two and three. Yeah,

1624
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons why we here in Buffalo

1625
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: feel our team's gotten better. Chiefs are the same way.

1626
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: They'll go down the list and say, well, you know,

1627
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: these ten guys that are going to be different from

1628
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: this starting group from a year ago, we're not going

1629
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: to miss them that much. And maybe we've gotten better

1630
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: here and here, so I hear him and every teams

1631
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: the same way. I just know how difficult it is

1632
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: to rebound after a tough season. I can't imagine how

1633
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: difficult it is when you've got nothing left to prove. Yeah,

1634
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: talking about the Chiefs, and that's what our Twitter poll is.

1635
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Are the Bills close to challenging the Chiefs for the

1636
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: AFC title? Ifs? So? Why? Phone lines are open to

1637
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: discuss eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We'll recap the Twitter poll

1639
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: so far. Read some of the tweets on the tweet

1640
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: sheet when we come back. One Bill's Live presented by

1641
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Klaida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio here coming up

1642
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes. The Hall of Famer. Perhaps

1643
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: you've heard of him, your former teammates Stevens will be good? Right?

1644
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: What are you laughing about? Perhaps you've heard of him? Yes,

1645
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: I have heard of him. Andrew's got a lot to

1646
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 1: talk about. Nobody good will be good to hear from him. Yeah,

1647
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: let's take a phone call eight h three fifty to

1648
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: three one eight eight five fifty two five fifty and

1649
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: number to call Dennis in Buffalo. Hello, Dennis, greetings, I

1650
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: have a question with your grand experts on Buffalo Billows

1651
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: in sports in general, who is the number one player,

1652
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent okay player who may unseat one

1653
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills major players on the team. Who

1654
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: do you think the one of the drafted players that

1655
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: they sign, maybe the invisible man who appear on the roster.

1656
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: That's a good question, Dennis. I think I will say

1657
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman they signed, Trey Adams from Washington has

1658
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 1: a chance, obviously if he's healthy. You've got injured man

1659
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 1: you say, I'd say Antonio Williams, running back out of

1660
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: University of North Carolina, had two seasons in Ohio State.

1661
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: Coming into play running back, He's not really competing against

1662
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary or Zach Moss. He's more competing against t J.

1663
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeldon that kind of thing, and as a rookie coming

1664
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: in undrafted, he may be willing to work hard and

1665
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: do some things that t J. Yeldon doesn't do, meaning

1666
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: play special teams. You have somebody, why, Dennis, who do

1667
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: you think? I think it's gilliam who has a tremendous

1668
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: record about blocking six punks, six selfield goal attempt in college.

1669
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: Is a tremendous special teams player, and he's a great

1670
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 1: I think I'm sorry Reggie Gilliam. Oh yeah, gill Okay,

1671
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a sleeper. I really think that he

1672
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: will so you go, I hear you. Maybe maybe if

1673
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: he's versatile enough. DeMarco does play good special teams. Uh,

1674
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: he is on there, and he's a he's a great leader,

1675
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: great type of guy. He's got a great locker room presence. Um.

1676
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: It will take a great effort why Reggie Gilliam to

1677
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: unseat him, but certainly competitions what they're about. And he's

1678
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: exactly the guy that Gilliam will be going up against.

1679
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean he'll be you know, he'll come down to that.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to keep two fullbacks. But if Gilliam

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Speaker 1: can play a tight end and fullback and be versatile

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01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: enough athletes to do some some other things in the

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01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: return game, in the coverage game, maybe maybe he does

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01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: get it done. Have you ever seen Gilliam play? Dennis

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01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: scheme is playing and he's a great think he's ad

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01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: message to unstoot the Markle. We'll see. Thanks Dennis, thanks

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01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: for calling their twitterfall today, are the Bills close to

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01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: challenging the Chiefs for the AFC title? And if so? Why?

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01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: On Twitter? Six hundred seventy votes in so far sixty

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01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: four percent of respondents. It's just about two thirds. See hey,

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01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: you know what, check back with me after they play

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01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: each other. They play each other week six of the

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01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Bills in Kansas City Thursday Night Football October fifteen, twenty

1694
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: one percent say yes they are close to challenging the

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01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs already, and fourteen percent say not even close. Give

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Speaker 1: us a call to discuss eight three fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty If

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01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 1: you'd like to discuss it, let's get to the Twitter

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01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: tweet Chief Routu by Cargan Moving Systems, the official movers

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01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Steve, go ahead, get us out

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01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 1: run weecon so, he says this man, Honestly, the stage

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01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: is finally set. This team will go as far as

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01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen takes us. He has a team built ready

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01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: to win. Now, the trusting, the process is over. Now

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01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: it's are you ready? And I believe he will answer

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01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: the call. I believe in Josh Allen that from Gonzo,

1707
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: and I think that's where we're at. You're gonna this

1708
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: team will go as far as Josh Allen takes them. Um,

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01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: it's fun to think about the top end and where

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01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: it'll go. But and if if the first the conversation

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01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: we had after we spoke to Bert Wigham, the trainer,

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01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen say he's trackling the entire country trying to

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: get ready. Yeah, coast to coast, So it'll be fun

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01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: to see how much he does improve. You know, Gonzo says,

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01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 1: which I find interesting. He says, the quote trusting the

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01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: process is over. That's an interesting concept, is it. I mean,

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01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing you, Gonzo, but I think in a

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01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: way you can make the argument as you have that

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01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: the trust trust the process was like a slogan for

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01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: Bills fans for first couple of years under Sean McDermott. Oh.

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01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: I know, we've had some tough losses. The twenty eighteen

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01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: season was bad, you know, the six wins and trust

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01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,799
Speaker 1: the process. We're getting better. And now they're not asking

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: folks to trust the process, even though they still may.

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01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 1: They build up that trust and now I'm sure that

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01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: they'll never change their slogan to Gonzo says are you ready?

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01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: But basically they're saying that a little bit right, Steve.

1728
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: They're saying, Hey, you trusted the process, Now you get

1729
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: to play play the payoff. Are you ready to win? Now?

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01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: I think it's not about trusting the process anymore. The

1731
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: process has been proven to work already. The process is

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01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: there and it works. Now it's worked the process, I

1733
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: guess now Now it's now it's keep on keeping on,

1734
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: you know. Now you've got to try and get better

1735
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, it's it is in the preparation

1736
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. And jos Sean McDermott

1737
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: is has done wonders for this club and for the

1738
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: way they're prepared and the way they play on Sundays.

1739
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 1: They've won a lot of games. They want a lot

1740
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: of games. Last year, they want a surprising amount of games.

1741
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Is first year and consistently the team plays better than

1742
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: the sum of its parts. It doesn't mean it always wins,

1743
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: but now they're as talented. Think about this, it's a

1744
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: crazy partner. This just occurred to me. This team might

1745
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: be and I don't know, I know it's crazy. I'm

1746
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: not really going on down the whole roster. But this

1747
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: team's probably more talented now than it was three years

1748
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: ago before they started tanking with Marcel Darius on they'ren

1749
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins on the squad, you know all that, You know,

1750
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 1: all those guys that were getting those high dollar contract

1751
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: This team's way more talented now across the board than

1752
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: it was then. Do you agree? I have to think

1753
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: about that. I do think I was hard to remember. No,

1754
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: without question, they are greater than the some of their

1755
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: parts was then. You know what I mean. Yeah, they

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01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: had great parts, a lot of first rounders, Sammy and

1757
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius, you mentioned a couple unless John Shack was

1758
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: a part of that great great NFL players. But they're

1759
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: a better team now. They're greater than some of the

1760
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: parts back. They're much better team. They're better coach than

1761
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: they were in two thousand and sixteen. They're better, better

1762
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: leadership than they got in two thousand and sixteen, no

1763
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: question about that. All Right, we're gonna take a break

1764
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: care and when we come back. Andre Reid knows a

1765
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 1: thing or two about the rosters and how to put

1766
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: together a good one. He's in the Pro Football Hall

1767
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: of Fame, has been for six years. Barbara Bill's wide

1768
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: receiver going to join us live when we come back.

1769
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: If you have a commenter question for Andre, give us

1770
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: a call, right, we can do that eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty or toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. It's one Bills Live presented

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01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 1: by Calaida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. The update

1774
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: from One Bills Live. The owner of the Carolina Panthers

1775
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: says there should be enough coronavirus tests by the fall

1776
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: so NFL teams can play games and stadiums with some fans.

1777
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: He says, you won't have full stadiums, but that doesn't

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01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: mean you can't have some fans in there either. The

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01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: Panthers one the twenty NFL teams with an open air stadium,

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01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: five others with retractable roofs. The NFL has not officially

1781
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: said when players and personnel can return to their fastilities

1782
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: and work out that. Commissioner Roder Goodellson a memotion reminding

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01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: the teams that still work to be done that they're

1784
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: not ready to open yet. NFL looking at all contingency

1785
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: plans in case they pandemic worsens in Florida. The governor

1786
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: became the second governor nation wide to announced that his

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01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: state is open to professional sports teams that want to

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01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: resume activity. On Tuesday, Arizona did that as well. Logan

1789
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Ryan remains a free agent and he emphasized that today

1790
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: and to talk with NFL Network even though he had

1791
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: been linked to the Jets. Talking to the Jets, Ryan

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: says he will talk to any one of thirty two

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01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: FL teams he remained a free agent. He says he's

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01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: ready to listen to pitches from any one of thirty

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01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: one other NFL teams. He was just released by the

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01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and former first round draft pick Taco Charlton

1797
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: says he's got his foot on the gas as he

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01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: gets ready to compete for a job with the Kansas

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01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. He says the Chiefs will get the best

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01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,799
Speaker 1: version of him, something that Dallas Cowboys and Miami Dolphins

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01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: did not get in his previous NFL stops. Former first

1802
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: round pick lasted just two seasons with Dallas, four sacks

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01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: in twenty seven games. He had five sacks in his

1804
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: ten games with Miami last season, but the Dolphins just waved.

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Speaker 1: There you go. That is the update. From one does line,

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01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tansker joined on the line right now

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01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: by a familiar face, if well, familiar name anyway, the

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01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: facebooks a little different. We're life on the line with

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01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: the pro football gamer Andre Reid ghos receiver fourteen sixteen

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01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: season in the NFL fourteen with the Bills. And Andre,

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01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: we can see on our Skype version here you have

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01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: a little is that a goatee? How would you describe

1813
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: that beard you have? It's it's it's straight up, neandrethal Man.

1814
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: I'm letting it go just in case the top goes,

1815
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: so I can take this off and put it on top.

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01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: It's quite great. You're aware of that. It's great, right, yeah, man,

1817
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: you know what it is, what it is, and I

1818
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: think you know, thirty years ago when we all were playing,

1819
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, Savy, nobody had no gray hair. This is

1820
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 1: hardly people that had hair on their face period. So

1821
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's called experience, that's what it's called. You're

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01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: a great man, Hey, thanks for coming on. It's great

1823
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: seeing you busy busy lately. You stay busy. You say

1824
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna go out and play golf a little bit

1825
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: this afternoon. They're opening things up out there. Yeah, well California, man,

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01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: just like you know some of these states. Uh, the

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01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: governors are are kind of loosening the leash a little bit. Uh.

1828
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: They started to open up the beaches down here about

1829
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: a week ago. Golf courses are steadily coming back. Um,

1830
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: you still have to do the social distancing. And actually

1831
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 1: the course I'm going to I played there a couple

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01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: of days ago and they take your temperature. So they're

1833
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: doing everything they're supposed to be doing as far as

1834
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: this uh pandemic is concerned. It's face of guys, this

1835
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: is a different world. Now. We're going through a lot

1836
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,560
Speaker 1: of stuff, you know, economically, Um, we we're in the

1837
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: sports business. Sports is going to be different. Who knows

1838
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the league this year. They

1839
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: got a contingency plan, as you said, Murph, that they

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01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: just in case some things go on, um that they're

1841
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna you know, implement. It won't be the same. And

1842
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: it seems like we've been going on this through this

1843
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: for about a year, but it's only been two months.

1844
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: So I think we all have to sit tight. We

1845
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: got to be patient, let things kind of follow where

1846
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: they may, and you know, hopefully there is a season.

1847
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: I know Bill's fans are so excited about this year.

1848
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about that a little bit. But

1849
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, man, sports is a part of the

1850
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 1: American genre. If we don't have sports, people tend to

1851
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 1: get a little more testy. So it's essential that sports

1852
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: do come back, you know, not only for the players

1853
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: and everybody involved, but for the people too. Andre read

1854
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 1: the Pro Football of Fame around the line with us,

1855
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: and I hear what you're saying about California where you live, Andre,

1856
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: I do keep reading that like the governor and other

1857
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 1: Californian officials are doubtful about putting people in stadiums either

1858
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: early this fall or even at all during the fall.

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01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: How do you think that's gonna play out? I mean,

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01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: there's what three NFL teams out in the state in California. Yeah,

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01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean if you look at some of

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01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: the players and some of the athletes are saying, well,

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01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play without no fans. You know, that's

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01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: just like when we were striking in nineteen eighty seven. Oh,

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01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cross the picking line. But the pressure

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01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: you get, I mean, I didn't cross the picking line.

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01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the pressure is there, and guys end

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01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: up crossing the line. So I think there's gonna be

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01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure from the inside from the outside

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01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: for athletes to do things in a certain manner. I mean,

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01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: what is it gonna be like with no fans cheering

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01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: for you in the stadium? Is everything gonna be virtual

1873
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: like it is now? You know, how are the big

1874
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: name players. I mean, you heard I don't know if

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01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: you guys heard Lebron saying I'm not playing with no fans,

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01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: and you know, all the big name players in sports

1877
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: are really very skeptical about playing with no fans, and

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01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: the fans really don't care. I think the fans are

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01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: gonna be there regardless if there's a if they say, hey,

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01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 1: you gotta sit six feet apart, fans are gonna be

1881
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 1: at the stadiums because that's part of it. Again earlier

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01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: I said, it's part of our makeup. It's part of

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01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: a person's makeup. Is sports is a part of their makeup.

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01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: So whatever they do, you know, I think it will

1885
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: be best for the players and best for the country,

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01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: best for the fans, et cetera, et cetera. One of

1887
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: the questions that's arisen from this playing without fans is

1888
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 1: what will happen when somebody scores a touchdown and there's

1889
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: no crowd noise or anything. And the TV networks are

1890
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: thinking about maybe even just piping in crowd noise so

1891
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: it feels normal. What do you think about how would

1892
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: it feel? I mean, it's gonna be weird for the

1893
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: players to score touchdown, nobody cheers, especially at home. What

1894
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: would it feel like to watch a game for you?

1895
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: What do you think about the crowd noise and the

1896
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 1: lack or lack thereof. I think it's facing bro. The

1897
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: crowd noise gets you hyped. That's really what the crowd's about.

1898
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: Not only is an entertainment for them, but in some

1899
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: cases it's been entertainment for us. I mean, you know

1900
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: the stadiums we've been, and you know, fans are crazy,

1901
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 1: and that's where they get their release. You know, they

1902
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: work all week and they do all the stuff they

1903
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: have to do all week in their going to a

1904
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 1: stadium on a Sunday or Monday night or Thursday night

1905
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: or Saturday night game or whatever in college, that's kind

1906
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 1: of a release for them. So they get that act

1907
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: out anyway they want to. You know, Bills fans, they

1908
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: act out anyway they want to, and that's kind of

1909
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: a release for them. So how are they gonna deal

1910
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 1: with that when there's no fans in the game. They're

1911
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to act out at the house, and I

1912
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know how that's gonna go. So we're all liking

1913
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: a plot right now and trying to pull things out

1914
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: and see how it's gonna be. I just hope sports

1915
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,959
Speaker 1: gets back. Whether or not it gets back to normalcy

1916
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: right away, that probably won't happen. The country's got to

1917
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: get back first before we feel good about what's going

1918
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: on in sports. Well live with pro football all the

1919
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: famer Andre Reid, of course, formerly with the Buffalo Bills. Hey, Andre,

1920
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: coronavirus and the pandemic and the quarantine is able to

1921
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 1: be effecting anyone. But you're kind of doing your part.

1922
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 1: I read where you delivered meals to San Diego's police

1923
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: department part of a church's coronavirus or leading effort and

1924
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: working with a former NFL player Miles McPherson and current

1925
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Raiders wide receiver Tyrell Williams tell us about that, what

1926
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 1: were you doing there? Well, Miles, you know Miles uh

1927
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: mcpher Shay not only a leader in the community here

1928
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: in San Diego, he's a pastor. Um the Rock Church

1929
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: is really important to me. I go to Rock to

1930
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: the Rock Church almost every Sunday. We have a virtual

1931
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: online meeting with as you said, Tyrrelle Williams, Reggie Bush

1932
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: comes in there. Sometimes you had Chase Daniel. So it's

1933
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: kind of like a little Bible study, uh, for for

1934
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: former players to talk about, you know, different issues and

1935
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: things that they go go through and then you know,

1936
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: talk about you know, just getting God's word and let's

1937
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: face it, we need and anything right now. Uh, you know,

1938
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: to calm everybody to know that it's gonna be okay,

1939
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: and uh to go down to the police department, the

1940
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: first responders, all the people around the country, the healthcare workers.

1941
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: U just seeing these healthcare people going day in and

1942
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: day out and or there for hours with mask on

1943
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 1: and risking their lives, uh and saving lives at the

1944
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: expense of their own lives. So we have to we

1945
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: have to respond to them and give back to them

1946
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: and show appreciation not only for them, but you know,

1947
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: our police department our fire department. Um, these are people

1948
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 1: that go on notice a lot of times. You know,

1949
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 1: they're in the news for different reasons. Um, it's it's

1950
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 1: important that we give the props to them that they're

1951
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: trying to keep everything out of solid you know, on

1952
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: the ground, solid ground. And that's what I'm doing. Plus

1953
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of different things. Uh uh you know.

1954
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 1: Actually next week I'm doing a COVID nineteen Small Business

1955
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Festival online virtual with talking about small business and how

1956
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 1: businesses can get back to get back to normalcy. Um.

1957
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: You know, my whole speech is going to be about

1958
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: the comeback game and how you come back, uh from

1959
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: from being down, you know, specially in business. So it's

1960
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: it's about taking control yourself, taking control of yourself, and

1961
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: it should be really good. And again, I'm doing a

1962
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of different things, man, a lot of things unnoticed. Yeah,

1963
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's also it's a strange offseason and it's

1964
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 1: a strange time for everybody. And I have you been

1965
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: noticing what the Bills have been doing. One of the

1966
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: big things they've done and they went out and got

1967
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: us Stefan Diggs, who's one of the really good receivers

1968
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 1: at the top of the league. What do you think

1969
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: that does for a team, Dre. I mean, you played

1970
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: wide out could and you are around in nineteen eighty nine,

1971
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: you're the number one receiver and you know we're kind

1972
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: of we just need one extra guy. You know, we

1973
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: need one guy, We need somebody. So the Bills go

1974
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 1: out and they get James Lofton. He was already had

1975
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 1: a great career, and it's later in his career he

1976
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: comes in. Talk about how that changed the dynamic, not

1977
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 1: only just of are me and you sitting in the

1978
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: receiver room, have James come in and they hit the

1979
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, the funny guy he was and the fun

1980
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: he added to the room, but also the help he

1981
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: gave you on the field. How did that change that offense? Man?

1982
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: Respect man Sevy every time when when James Lofton signed,

1983
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's about it's about to go

1984
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: down now, because again, like you said, he's been he

1985
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: was established in Green Bay. Um, he's he did a

1986
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 1: lot in the league, went to went to uh Oakland

1987
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: or the LA Raiders at the time, and not only

1988
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: did he bring a sense of of of confidence to

1989
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 1: us as a receiver group, but um, just his presence

1990
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: not only on the field but off the field, and

1991
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 1: what he brang you couldn't help but be better and

1992
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: just watching him. And I remember back in nineteen eighty

1993
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: five when I came in the league, Jerry Butler was

1994
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: a guy. I watched Murphy. You remember Jerry, and they said,

1995
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 1: if you won't want to be good and you want

1996
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: to stay in this league, watched number eighty and I

1997
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: watched him like a hawk. I mean I had wings.

1998
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: Everywhere he went. I was either behind him or right

1999
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: beside him taking notes. And I think these young kids now,

2000
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: the two kids we drafted, the young man out of

2001
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: Oregon State and Gabriel Davis. Big kids can run good routes,

2002
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: can catch the ball. It's gonna be an adjustment for

2003
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: them because of this pandemic that's going on. There's no

2004
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's no OTAs. Everything's virtual again. They're gonna

2005
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 1: have to be in their playbook because they're not gonna

2006
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: have the on field experience, So they're gonna have to

2007
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 1: hit the ground running. And when you have veterans on

2008
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 1: your team like John Brown and Cole Beasley and all

2009
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: these guys that they have there offensively and defensively. This

2010
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 1: is gonna make your team a little bit more confident

2011
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: every time you step on the field. And that's really

2012
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna be important for every single team this year. To

2013
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 1: be successful is rely on your veterans and then you

2014
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: got to do the extra work to make you better,

2015
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 1: to make the whole team better. Bye with Andre Reid,

2016
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills. Hey, Andre,

2017
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: the Bills did draft two white outs and you mentioned

2018
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Hodgens from Oregon State and of course Gabe Davis, both

2019
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: of them with size and length. How much of a

2020
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 1: factor is that. Do you think have a wide receiving

2021
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: cord that had some short little guys who can run

2022
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: and some fast guys who can I mean some tall

2023
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: guys who can you know, be a better target for

2024
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback? I would think, yeah, no doubt about it.

2025
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,560
Speaker 1: It's a double head sword. I mean, always go to

2026
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 1: when I came to the league, it was always the

2027
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 1: short receivers, you know, the Markdoper's and to Mark Clayton's

2028
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: that can jump. And as receivers got bigger, defensive backs

2029
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: had to get bigger. Um. Now defensive backs are tall

2030
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: and lanky, and do we lose him. I think we

2031
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: just froze up, Andrea, we lost you for just a second.

2032
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: We'll try and reconnect with him. Um. Obviously, obviously Andre

2033
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: has got a ton going on, and he still takes

2034
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 1: great interest in the bills. He's he's on this five

2035
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: President's tech loop that we use all the time, and

2036
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: he's always he's as busy as anybody of that old group.

2037
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Murph doing the stuff he's

2038
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: doing for um, you know the people out in California,

2039
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: the department of the San Diego Police Department and teaming

2040
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 1: up with Miles McPherson and also Tyrelle Williams. Good to

2041
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: hear about him doing that stuff. It's been, uh, it's

2042
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun watching him become that kind

2043
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame type of character and the type

2044
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame type of guy. Um. He plays it

2045
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: up to the to the max. He gets the most

2046
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: out of it and helps a lot of people with

2047
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: his position as a Hall of Famer. It's good to see,

2048
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: you know what. I didn't ask him, And we're running

2049
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: out of time a little bit. We're getting back up

2050
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: here in a second year. But you were there when

2051
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: Lofton shows up. It didn't sound like there was any

2052
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 1: thought from Andre, who was getting well established, not quite there,

2053
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: but getting pretty well established. But there was no concern over, oh,

2054
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: how many touches am I gonna get? How am I

2055
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: gonna how many targets am I gonna get? Now? With this, uh,

2056
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: Hall of fame or this yeah, hall of fame receiver

2057
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,560
Speaker 1: James Lofton on the roster didn't seem like that was

2058
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,759
Speaker 1: a consideration back then. Steve wasn't. No, it wasn't. It wasn't.

2059
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 1: They were looking. They were always looking for somebody to

2060
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: help Bondrey, much like they were helping somebody to help um,

2061
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, John Brown and Cole Beasley. It was a

2062
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: little bit like that in eighty nine when we had

2063
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 1: Don beebe and and Andre. They kind of needed that

2064
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 1: big body guy on the outside, a guy that could

2065
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: go up and get it, a guy that could stretch

2066
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: and take the top off the defense and also be

2067
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: a threat in his own right. James Laughton filled that

2068
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: role obviously, Yeah, he filled that. James filled that role admirably.

2069
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: But also uh, and Andre, we got Andre back Andre.

2070
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about James Lawt in these contributions. And it

2071
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 1: wasn't it just It wasn't only that James was a

2072
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 1: great player and an established player and the and the

2073
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: right body type, the big, strong guy, go down the field,

2074
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 1: deep threat kind of guy. But he was also a

2075
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: great teammate, a guy that was great in the locker room,

2076
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 1: a guy that was great in our meeting rooms, just

2077
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: as wide receiver was Nick Nickolau. Nick and James had

2078
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: a history together. Nick had coached James in LA. His

2079
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 1: chemistry and his ability to be hummed, bowl and good

2080
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: humored and worked hard really aided not only in his

2081
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: relationship with you, but also in his ability to mesh

2082
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,560
Speaker 1: with the team and start contributing almost right from the

2083
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: from the get go. Yeah he um, you know what

2084
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: he did in LA was awesome. And I think, uh uh,

2085
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: he knew the situation he was coming in, and I

2086
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 1: think he was more excited than probably we were because

2087
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: we knew, but we didn't know how fast he would

2088
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: grasp everything. And if you remember that game against uh

2089
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta back and um, I think it was Dion Sanders

2090
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: first game and James Lofton had a touchdown and he

2091
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: just we started to know huddle. I think that game.

2092
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 1: So you know, things just happened and the ball got rolling,

2093
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: Jim got confidence, we all got confidence, and you know

2094
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: the rest is history and we really, uh you took

2095
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,560
Speaker 1: off from there. Andre Reid is on the line of

2096
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 1: US Live talking about the Bills back then and the

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Speaker 1: Bills now you. Um, I wanted to ask you about

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Speaker 1: receivers making the adjustment to quarterbacks. We had a guy

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Speaker 1: on the earlier today, Andre talking about how Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and Matt Barkley are working out in southern California with

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Speaker 1: the two rookie wide receivers. That's important, isn't it. That's

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that gets done among the meaningless practices,

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Speaker 1: so called meaningless practices in the spring, and OTA's the

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Speaker 1: one thing they can do is work on time in

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Speaker 1: with receivers. I have accused that Josh Allen is doing

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Speaker 1: that now, yeah, and he knows how important it is.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh has tooken a you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: of steps, and then last year to be in a

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Speaker 1: not only elite quarterback in the league, but to the

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01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: next level, this Buffalo Bill team, and to bring these

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Speaker 1: two rookies in and to have you know, the veterans

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Speaker 1: that he needs on that team, and basically it is

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Speaker 1: his team to a certain point. And the more weapons

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Speaker 1: you have, the more confidence you have coming in. And

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Speaker 1: for him to be out here in southern California with

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Speaker 1: these guys is a big plus. Again with everything happening,

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01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 1: to get a jump on everything. And I'm sure he's

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01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 1: not the only one doing it. I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 1: of the other quarterbacks are doing it too. But this

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01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: is what they need to do, not only to familiarize

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01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: themselves there themselves together, but again and I want to

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01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,839
Speaker 1: see how you run this route. This is the adjustment

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01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: that you need to make on this and different just

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01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: verbiage that he needs to give them so when they

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01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: get together and it's running that they're already one step ahead.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Task, you're talking to andre Reid. Hey,

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01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: andre I saw you were doing a little bit of acting.

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01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Now you have an episode of Magdan PI a few

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01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago. You were in mcgivery last year. What's going

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01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: on there? Is this a new career for you in

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01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: in the making? Yeah, well, you know, I'm dabbling in it.

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01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun, it's a lot it's a

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01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: different It's very different than going out and playing football

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01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday, that's for sure. But it's it's a lot

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01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: of fun to do. Um. Who knows what's going to

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01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: happen after this. I probably have some more things I'll

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01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: be doing. So it's a lot of fun. Man, it's

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01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to do. Do you do you

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01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 1: have any plans anything on the docket that we can

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01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: look for coming up? Well, Peter Linkoff, who who started

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01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: all those shows again Magnum and uh uh Guy Ever

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01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: and and Hawaii Fibo and all that. Uh, he's got

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01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. He's done a lot of things.

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01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: He's been Uh, he's been on a lot of done

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01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 1: a lot of movies. So you might see me on

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01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 1: the big screen. You never know what what characters do

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01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: they have you playing? What type of characters? Andre Well,

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01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to play myself. I played myself in the

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01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 1: last episode of magnam p I ha played a myself

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01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: and a guy was impersonating me and they put him

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: in jail for impersonation. Uh so my name was Eddie Butler,

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01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: so don't look like Eddie Butler. But yeah, it's gonna

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01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: be hopefully it'll be a real current role. They killed

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01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: me on the other show. So once you die on

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01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: a show, you can't get back. You can't come back.

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01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 1: Yea perfect. It's a lot of fun to do. It's

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01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: very challenging because it's time and uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: will definitely give you guys a people when the next

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Speaker 1: thing comes up. Thanks all right, Drey, that's awesome, Andre,

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01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us today. We appreciate it.

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01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 1: Good talking, guys, and stay healthy, stay safe. Everybody. Say

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01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: hello to the families for me. And hopefully we get

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Speaker 1: back from Buffalo soon. I can get back there and

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01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: and uh we can hit them, hit the ground running

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Speaker 1: with the season and have some fun looking for Hut.

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Speaker 1: All right, Andre Reid, pro football Hall of Famer from

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01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 1: for six years ago now Bill's wide receiver, spent sixteen

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Speaker 1: seasons in the National Football League. Um, we thank him

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Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Here. You said something. I

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01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: think you said it on the air, Steve, I get confused.

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01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Andrea has changed in the time he's been and he

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01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 1: hasn't played with the Bill since nineteen ninety nine, so

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01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 1: it's more than twenty years. But he's changed, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? And he should I mean he matures.

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01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: But he's just a different guy now than he was

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Speaker 1: even ten years ago. It seems to me, huh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has. And I mentioned it too. One of the

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Speaker 1: things I noticed when Jim and then Bruce and of

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Speaker 1: course Andre and now Andre, when those guys went into

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, it was a real gift for him.

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01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 1: I was really obviously they I don't know if they

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01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 1: knew it or in their heart of hearts, they had

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01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 1: to know Bruce, especially in Jim, but when they went

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Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, it really gave I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it changed him, and it changed him for the better.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have a chip on their shoulder anymore. Is

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01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: as though they a big weight was lifted off of them.

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Speaker 1: That they know. There's not a single thing any one

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Speaker 1: of them hadn't proved, any of their friends or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I think to themselves, going in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame was that final notch on their own personal checklist

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Speaker 1: that I think, Wow, that that was big, And I

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01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 1: think it really meant so much to them that it

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01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: really gave them a chance to relax and be genuinely

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Speaker 1: who they were, that who that I knew them, who

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01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: they were for everybody everywhere. They were just more relaxed,

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01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: more approachable, happier more all the time. It was just

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Speaker 1: great to see and uh for for Thurman, Jim, Bruce

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Speaker 1: and Andre and James as well. It was just a

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01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: great moment for all of them. And I think it

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Speaker 1: really helped relax them and make them a you know,

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Speaker 1: a happier and a better version of themselves when they

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01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,839
Speaker 1: got a big stamp of approval from the Pro Football

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01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And I think it really it really

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01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: affected them in a deep way and in a positive

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Speaker 1: way for all of them. I think you're right. I

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Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right. All right, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We will revisit our topic of the day. Are the

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Speaker 1: Bills close to challenging the Chiefs for the AFC Championship?

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Speaker 1: And if so? Why? Phone lines wide open three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: five fifty. You can call us up talking about it

2213
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 1: on the phone. You can vote in a Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: We'll recap that in a moment and we'll get back

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01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet as well. Plus NFL Tour false

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Speaker 1: coming up. Come on back. One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Collatta Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Welcome Back One

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Speaker 1: goes Live, presented by Collatda Health. John Murphy Steen Casker.

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Speaker 1: About a half hour left in the show. Here talking

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Speaker 1: a lot about the Chiefs today. It's not a chief show, John,

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Speaker 1: and it's a bill show. But the question of the

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01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: day are the Bills close to challenging the Chiefs for

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01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: the AFC title? What do you think of that? Eight

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Speaker 1: O three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. You got a couple of

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01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: calls to take, Stevie. Are you ready for that? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's give it a shot. Luke in Rochester, Hello, Luke, Luke?

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Speaker 1: Are you there? Steve? I wanted to ask you what

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01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 1: sir I am? Can you hear me? Um? Yeah? Go

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01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: ahead here, you know I wanted to ask it. I

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01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, why do you think people like

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01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: Chuck Dickerson, who was a former coach as you know,

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01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: why are they Why was he so against Doug Flutie.

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 1: Chuck Dickerson never coached Doug Flutie to my knowledge in Buffalo. Yeah,

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01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: he was gone from the team well before Doug Flutie

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01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: got on the team. Is that at your point though, Luke,

2237
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about as a radio host. Why

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Speaker 1: was he against him? Hello, Luke, Luke, we lost Luke

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01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: john m Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Luke. What were you saying? Well,

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Speaker 1: we've We've definitely lost Luke, now you know. I saw

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01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: am there was something on Twitter like yesterday. I guess um.

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01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 1: It was like, what's your one sports take that you

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01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 1: will never back off from? Basically was the question post, Yeah,

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: I got a couple, I won't share all. Yeah, what

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01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: what are you saying? You got a list? Right? I mean,

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01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: but it makes you think, like, what's one thing I

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01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: think about sports that I will never change my mind about?

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01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 1: But so I know who it was. It was our

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01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: boy Tyler Dunn who made such a big made such

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01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: a big splash with his Sammy Watkins article, but his

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01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 1: take that he would never go back on was like

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01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 1: Rob Johnson is greater than Doug Fluty and I thought,

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01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: you know what, that might be one of mine too.

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01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 1: There's no question I know what Flute did. I I

2255
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 1: got the Flute mania. He was important to the franchise.

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01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. We've had him on the show,

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01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: like what he's done. But Rob Johnson clearly was a

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01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: better passer and a better quarterback, I think, and I

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01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 1: don't think i'd come off that. And maybe that's I'm

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01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: not saying that's what Luke wanted to know what Chuck

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01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Dickerson's issue was. I don't know what Chuck Dickerson's issue

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01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: was about that or about a million other things, but um,

2263
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 1: maybe that was it. Maybe he was he just thought, Hey,

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01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 1: if I'm picking a quarterback, I'm picking Rob Johnson ahead

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01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 1: of Doug Flutie, my crazy Steve No. But here's the

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01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed, and I don't know anything more

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01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 1: than anybody else. I was off the team when both

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01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: those guys came to the to the Bills, and so

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01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: I would say this, and here's what I noticed as

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01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: a guy who was just out of the league at

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01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 1: the time when those guys were playing. Rob Johnson's gifts

2272
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 1: were he was a great athlete, great quarterback, had a

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01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 1: big arm. But he was kind of a flatlined personality.

2274
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 1: And he wasn't a guy that played to the media

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01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: at all. He wasn't a guy that really cared what

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01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 1: people outside the building thought of him. He didn't he

2277
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: didn't cowtow I guess for a but I don't know. Whatever,

2278
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: he didn't cooperate, not to cooperate, but he didn't. He

2279
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 1: didn't use the media as his vehicle. He didn't care

2280
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 1: about the media. He did it as an obligation and

2281
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 1: he didn't care what people outside the building thought about him.

2282
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: And he was here to play quarterback and he wasn't

2283
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, he was a California guy, and he was

2284
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: he was kind of a you know, just a kind

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01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 1: of a cold demeanor, had a cold demeanor as far

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01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: as the fans were concerned, right argument, Yeah, Doug Flutie

2287
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: was the opposite of that. Um. He not only spoke

2288
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: to the media and was and was friendly with the media.

2289
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 1: He would use the media to get a personal message

2290
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: out about how, you know, how he thought he should

2291
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 1: be playing. He manipulated the media to his own ends. Uh.

2292
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 1: He would do postcame interviews and make sure that he

2293
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 1: got had an agenda of a message that he wanted

2294
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 1: to get out about how the game went, and he

2295
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: did it. Uh. He was very very adept at messaging

2296
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: and making sure that people had a good opinion of him.

2297
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 1: He cared very deeply about how the fans perceived him

2298
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 1: in his place on the team, and he made sure

2299
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 1: they got that and he promoted that. So it's no

2300
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: surprise that a lot of fans thought a lot about

2301
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: and liked him because he wanted to be liked by

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01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: the fans. It was it was part of how he

2303
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: wanted to his career to go. He wanted to be

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01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 1: a fan favorite. He wanted to be liked, he wanted

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01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: to be cheered for, and it was part of his

2306
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 1: personal agenda for himself to play well. He wanted to

2307
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: play for fans who liked him. And conversely, he I

2308
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 1: think Doug, you know, because everybody, every player wants a challenge, right,

2309
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: Doug always put it on like the coaching staff, uh

2310
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 1: and other people or or or perceived criticisms from outside

2311
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 1: the room to you know, he was always fighting against

2312
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: the bias of people had against short players, short quarterbacks,

2313
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: guys who didn't fit a physical check the physical boxes

2314
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: that you know, guys like Rob Johnson did and he

2315
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 1: and he wore that like a you know, kind of

2316
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 1: like a badge of honor. That was his challenge and

2317
01:59:58,200 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 1: he was always trying to overcome and he made it.

2318
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 1: He did so publicly. He made it a public battle

2319
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 1: between himself and overcoming the stereotypes of a smaller guy

2320
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So for all those things, those two guys,

2321
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 1: in their personalities, it's easy to see why people would

2322
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 1: think Flutie was way better than Doug Johnson. Doug, you know,

2323
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 1: Rob Johnson, he was way better than Rob Johnson when

2324
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 1: an actuality. Rob was probably better pure quarterback than Doug was.

2325
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 1: But Doug's personal or public presence and his persona was

2326
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 1: perceived in a much way different way than Rob Johnson's was.

2327
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 1: That's my way to get up on that twenty year

2328
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 1: old argument you made. And by the way, if the

2329
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: show was on twenty years ago, I was going on,

2330
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 1: that's what we can talk about. But let me ask

2331
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:45,120
Speaker 1: you this, Steve. Maybe you can answer this, maybe you

2332
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: can't because you were not a teammate of either one

2333
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: of them. But who do you think was a better teammate? Wow?

2334
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't speak to it. I really

2335
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I know the quarterback I played with, Jim Kelly,

2336
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: was a phenomenal teammate. Not always, he grew into it,

2337
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: and he once he learned how important it was and

2338
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 1: that he wanted to be he worked very hard at

2339
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: being a good teammate and became a very good and

2340
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: still is a very good teammate. Um, So I don't know.

2341
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 1: You'd have to ask the guys that played with both

2342
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,400
Speaker 1: those guys. Okay, I'm sure they have guys that love

2343
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 1: I have teammates that love both of them and some

2344
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 1: of them that didn't like each of them for whatever reason. So, UM,

2345
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't answer that. It's good. That's

2346
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 1: a really, really good question, A really good question that

2347
02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 1: I can't answer. Well, thank you. I would love to

2348
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: hear the answer to somebody who really does know. Next

2349
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: time we get a former teammate on the show of

2350
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 1: both from that hero, let's ask him. Let's make him

2351
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: point of asking that. They're probably gonna be like, I

2352
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 1: don't want to get involved in that. That's party. We

2353
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 1: gotta put that down on our list for Jay Harris today.

2354
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: We got to ask this same same Twitter question on

2355
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 1: October sixteenth, which is Friday after they played the Chiefs.

2356
02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 1: And then we also have to the next time we

2357
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: have a teammate of Rob Johnson asking that. Call here

2358
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: from Chris in Rochester. Hello, Chris, you're on the ear, Hey,

2359
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 1: John and Steve. Thanks for taking my call. Can you

2360
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 1: hear me your thanks ahead? Awesome? Great. I got a

2361
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 1: question for you guys about kind of projecting the roster.

2362
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but you know, the draft is

2363
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:24,760
Speaker 1: done and free agency is pretty much done. I read

2364
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 1: a thing about the new CBA that says that teams

2365
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:33,320
Speaker 1: will be allowed to activate forty seven players instead of

2366
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 1: forty six, and that they'll also be able to activate

2367
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 1: a forty eighth person as long as the team has

2368
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: eight offensive lineman active for game day. Right. Should that

2369
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 1: I have for you guys is do you think that

2370
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 1: that's going to make it so that more teams have

2371
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 1: like nine or ten offensive linemen because at one point

2372
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:57,000
Speaker 1: last year, I know, at the beginning of the year,

2373
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 1: we had ten offensive linemen, which I thought was a

2374
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: lot um. So I'm wondering if how you think that

2375
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 1: kind of figures for you know, the Bills, you know,

2376
02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: in terms of how many offensive linemen they keep, because

2377
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 1: they brought everybody, I mean, they brought Spain back. They

2378
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 1: have all of the guys who were on the roster

2379
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 1: last year, plus they brought in Darryl Williams from Carolina.

2380
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 1: I know that they got Evan bam um. And I'm

2381
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 1: curious if you think that the Bills will keep more

2382
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and if you think also other teams will

2383
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: more offensive lineman, go ahead, go ahead, all right. I

2384
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 1: just want to say you're right, they have an offensive linement.

2385
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 1: There's a name out there now, just released by the

2386
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 1: Saints that I wondered if the Bills are interested in.

2387
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: I have no intel on this, but I wouldn't I

2388
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they kicked the tires on Larry Warford,

2389
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 1: former Pro Bowl performer at guard. And maybe you know,

2390
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: he probably is gonna try to get a lot of money,

2391
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 1: probably deserves a lot of money. But that would be

2392
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good addition I think to the offensive line.

2393
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 1: That's all I'll say about it. Steve, your thoughts on

2394
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: on the offensive line depth, I guess yeah. I mean

2395
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: they're always looking to upgrade, no question, but they will.

2396
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 1: The reason they went from forty eight, and if they could,

2397
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 1: they could activate, as you said, forty eight on game day.

2398
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: If the eighth, if the forty eighth guy is, is

2399
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 1: your eighth offensive lineman, or if you have eight offensive

2400
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 1: lineman active, you can have forty eight guys active on

2401
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: game day. That's strictly for numbers purposes in case the

2402
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 1: bad happens to an offensive lineman. And there's been games

2403
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 1: where guys teams have had three offensive linemen get hurt.

2404
02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 1: So it's not you know, it's not for nothing. But

2405
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 1: here's what you could expect on games. I don't know

2406
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:41,839
Speaker 1: that it means the Bills will keep ten offensive linemen

2407
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 1: on the roster so that you know, on game day

2408
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 1: they can pick the best eight. But it won't Eight

2409
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:50,120
Speaker 1: won't be the only number they have on They'll have

2410
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: at least nine, maybe ten plus or nine with a

2411
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: with a guy on the practice squad as well, they're

2412
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna have plenty of offensive linemen to get into the sea.

2413
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:06,160
Speaker 1: But the object on game day is to maximize the

2414
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 1: guys you have healthy enough to play into a team

2415
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 1: that will beat the team you're playing. So if it

2416
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 1: means this week we're only going to have eight offensive

2417
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 1: linemen and we're gonna have six wide receivers and two

2418
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 1: running backs for instance, they'll do that. And if they

2419
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 1: want to change that up and go five wide receivers,

2420
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 1: four running backs, offensive lineman and only maybe what five linebackers,

2421
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. They'll do that. And mostly that

2422
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: happens because of the contributions on special teams, but there

2423
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 1: could be an extenuating circumstance where they're playing a team

2424
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 1: and they think, man, if we can get them into

2425
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 1: this personnel combination and we have an extra tight end

2426
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: or an extra running back, or we have this guy

2427
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 1: who can play a couple of positions, we can really

2428
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 1: make we can really get an advantage on this team.

2429
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep on seven offensive linemen and go

2430
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 1: with six tight ends. Today, I'm exaggerating to make a point,

2431
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 1: but you get the idea. Um, it gives the coaching

2432
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:13,880
Speaker 1: staffs more freedom theoretically to overcome injuries on game day,

2433
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 1: but because those injuries are not always gonna happen, they'll

2434
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 1: be able to maximize their personnel usage on game day

2435
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 1: to give themselves an edge on maybe what a half

2436
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 1: a dozen plays or so. And if they can do that,

2437
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: maybe it gets him a win here and there. Steve,

2438
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 1: any thoughts on Larry Werford? What do you think? Listen,

2439
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: if the guy, if he's a Pro Bowl guard, you

2440
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 1: can bet there's gonna be more teams than the Bills

2441
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 1: kicking his tires. Also, it'll be depend on the kind

2442
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 1: of a player he's been. It'll be find out on

2443
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: what they can find out about about the kind of

2444
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 1: guy he is, whether he fits the DNA that the

2445
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 1: Bills are looking for. And what's the number, Murph, you know, yeah,

2446
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:57,680
Speaker 1: what's what's his number gonna be? And who they gonna

2447
02:06:57,720 --> 02:06:59,000
Speaker 1: who are they gonna kick to the curb? You know,

2448
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 1: who are they gonna release or not release? So there

2449
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 1: are almost a maximum capacity at their rosters, So that

2450
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 1: means somebody's gonna have to have to step aside, and

2451
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 1: the number might be what hold en up the Bills

2452
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: or anybody on. Larry Warford said to be asking seven

2453
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 1: million per year, which is a little bit pricy, you know,

2454
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 1: this late in the game to add that kind of

2455
02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 1: number two your roster. Three to last three years, he's

2456
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 1: been in the Pro Bowl. I mean, he's an outstanding

2457
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 1: run blocker. He's young, he's twenty eight years old. He

2458
02:07:27,600 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 1: was going to count thirteen million against the cap for

2459
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 1: New Orleans this year, which is probably why they let

2460
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 1: him go a couple of weeks ago. But I look,

2461
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:37,320
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if the Bills didn't at least inquire

2462
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 1: right and never talk about it. And if I wouldn't

2463
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: be surprised if they follow up and maybe make a

2464
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:45,120
Speaker 1: push for him. I just think it fits Buffalo. Yeah,

2465
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 1: they might. They might just say, listen, you're such a

2466
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 1: good player. Here's what we'll do. We'll give you the

2467
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: seven million and guarantee six of it or five of

2468
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 1: it this season, and you get a one year prove

2469
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 1: a deal. You can go to the Pro Bowl again,

2470
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 1: become a free agent after this year and go from there.

2471
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 1: What do you say? And he may say, yeah, you

2472
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm in. It might be kind of one

2473
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 1: of those deals as well, and it might take a while,

2474
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:11,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It might be one of

2475
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 1: those deals that you know, Larry Warford's right now thinking,

2476
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 1: oh why the Saints do that. I'm gonna wait this out,

2477
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna wait and see where the season's going before I

2478
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 1: decided where to go. You know what I mean. If

2479
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 1: you guarantee the money, he's gonna get the money right right,

2480
02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So that may be the thing that

2481
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 1: does it for him. And to say, listen, I'll take

2482
02:08:28,720 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 1: five million this year if you can guarantee all of it.

2483
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 1: We don't even know if we're gonna be playing games yet.

2484
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,680
Speaker 1: So at this early juncture, I'll take what i can

2485
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 1: get now for one year, knowing that I'm a really

2486
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:41,960
Speaker 1: good player, knowing that at the and after this season,

2487
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it all back and more. One more

2488
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 1: thing about Warford and Adam Tysher. We had him on

2489
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:50,320
Speaker 1: at one o'clock about what were we talking about? Which, Oh,

2490
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 1: the Pat Mahomes and the chief's reluctance to commit. I wonder. Look,

2491
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 1: it's all I'm saying is if I'm an NFL free agent,

2492
02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad that the league moved ahead with free ag

2493
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:03,800
Speaker 1: See when they did, you know, in March March fourteenth.

2494
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 1: I think it started because things have changed even since

2495
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 1: mid March, right, and with the virus and with the quarantine,

2496
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: then there's uncertainty about whether there's going to be fans

2497
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 1: in the stands, etc. Teams might be less willing to

2498
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 1: part with big money now than they were two months ago.

2499
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good observation by Tysher, And

2500
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: maybe that's what holds up deals for Cam Newton or

2501
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:26,520
Speaker 1: Larry Warford or a deal beyond you know, the franchise

2502
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 1: tag for Pat Holmes, What do you think of that? Sea?

2503
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think it. The league always holds

2504
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 1: its free agency at the exact time that it did

2505
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 1: this year. The only thing that is uncertain is the future.

2506
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that the future is ever as certain

2507
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: as we'd like it to be anyway. But for these guys,

2508
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:48,960
Speaker 1: I get it. It gives them some stability in a

2509
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 1: time when, Wow, what happens if we don't play with

2510
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 1: any fans, or if the league takes a financial hit

2511
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 1: for the first time ever because it doesn't have any

2512
02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 1: fans in the stands, or we can only get fourteen

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Speaker 1: games in or for whatever reason. I get it. But

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Speaker 1: I think the real question is what's the long term

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Speaker 1: hit gonna be for the for the NFL, And is

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Speaker 1: it gonna lead to maybe a drop in the cap

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Speaker 1: number next year? Um? Is Mike contract as good as

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Speaker 1: it isn't as reasonable it is for the club gonna

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Speaker 1: outprice me in a cap that goes down twelve million

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Speaker 1: dollars next year or whatever what have you. UM, that's

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Speaker 1: the real question. It's not so much getting a contract

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Speaker 1: signed now. Teams are going to sign the guys that

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Speaker 1: are good period. They're going to sign the same guys.

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Speaker 1: The question is what happens after this year and is

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Speaker 1: the league gonna grow or is it going to detract

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Speaker 1: for one year? Contract for one year? That's the real question. Well,

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Speaker 1: take a break and then we're back. One Live was

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Speaker 1: presented by Kellida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. So

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Speaker 1: what we learned crossed to you by Skyworks, the official

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Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company in the Buffalo Bills. We had

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Speaker 1: an interesting show today. I found an interesting trainer. Bret

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Speaker 1: William joined us. He's working out in southern California with Gabe, David,

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss, Isaiah Hodgens, Josh Allen at Barkley. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Brett William had to say about that experience. The first

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Speaker 1: guy that actually we went and worked with last week

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Speaker 1: was John Brown, and he was like, come to because

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Speaker 1: he's in four Lauderdale, So we just drove down there

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure y'all know him as Smoke, but Smoke

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Speaker 1: Grilly was working with Gabe on the finer things and

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Speaker 1: and on the offense and like running routes and being

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Speaker 1: intricate with that. And then this week we had already

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Speaker 1: planned to come work with Matt and then Matt talked

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Speaker 1: with Josh and they all got together and it just

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Speaker 1: so happened that Zach Gabe and Isaiah Hodgens are all

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Speaker 1: in you know, California, La area, and so you've got

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Speaker 1: three three rookies working with the two starter in the

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. So it's just really become a unique situation.

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Speaker 1: This week, doing some interesting work out there with some

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Speaker 1: critical Buffalo Bills and Adam Tysher on the show. He

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Speaker 1: covers the Kansas City Chiefs for ESPN's NFL Nation. He

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Speaker 1: thinks even though the Chiefs will be good, maybe really

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Speaker 1: good this year, he thinks they'll lose that Thursday night

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Speaker 1: primetime game in Buffalo. Here's what he said about one

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Speaker 1: of the games I had him losing was that Thursday

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Speaker 1: night game in Buffalo. And I think it's week six,

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Speaker 1: maybe week seven, one of the two seven, middle of October.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like, particularly given the short week, I

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Speaker 1: think those short weeks, that the advantage goes to the

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Speaker 1: teams that don't have to travel, and so Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: the ones who're gonna have to get on the plane

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Speaker 1: and go play. And if they're fans in the stands,

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Speaker 1: you know that the Bills. SAMs are going to be

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Speaker 1: ready to go for that one. So I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: that that's one of the biggest games of the year

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Speaker 1: to me. I'm looking forward to that one. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can catch up with some of those interviews as we

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Speaker 1: have it on our website. A little bit Steve could

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Speaker 1: work with you today. Today's show was better than it

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Speaker 1: looked on paper. It is it was now. It's good.

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Speaker 1: Andre Reid was great, and the two Got the Trainer

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Speaker 1: was great and of course Adam Tisher from Kansas City

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Speaker 1: had a lot to say about. You know, just one

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Speaker 1: more national guy who's pretty high on the Bills although

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Speaker 1: not over the top. Production assistant today Kelly Rude, JJ Torito,

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Speaker 1: Cavin Card, James Roebol, our board ops, Breton Wilson, Joe

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Speaker 1: d Bass, our producer Jay Harris. One more show this

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Speaker 1: week Tomorrow starts at noon. One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Allat of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.