1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party. 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: the party. The bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: a top five soccer hooligan rockstar countdown, as inspired by 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: this week's full episode on the Hillsboro Disaster, Rod the Bod, 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Sir Elton, the Cartel, some metal head tryhards, and more, 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: plus your voicemails, text emails, It's dms, and as always, 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried. 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All Right, 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: this goes let's get into it. 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: All right. 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: So we're doing a little bit of sports this week 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: because the World Cup is among us. But you know, 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: sports through the lens of chaos and tragedy, which is 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: very disgraceland. Our Hillsboro tragedy episode is in the feed 26 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: for you guys. That's what prompted all this. This is 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the story of the ninety seven innocent victims who died 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: at this soccer match back in nineteen eighty nine, and 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: the story about how they were escapegoaded by authorities. It's 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: just it's maddening. And I knew nothing about this story 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: when I first heard about it about five years ago 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: or so. Anyways, it's an incredible tale. I hope you 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: dig it. Check it out. It's in the feed right now. 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: We have it live now. Because of this time of year, 35 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: the World Cup is happening, NBA Finals are happening, Stanley 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Cup Finals, the NCAA Baseball tournament. Sports is dominating our 37 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: attention at the moment, is what I'm saying. So I 38 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: thought I do a little high fidelity Rob Gordon Championship Final, 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Top five Rock and Roll soccer crossover moments, with an emphasis, 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: of course, on the strange and bizarre and the unknown, 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: unknown at least to me and hopefully to you as well. 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into it. Number five, The 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: rock and roll myth that Rod Stewart and no, not 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: that myth that Rod Stewart was signed by a professional 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: soccer club by Brentford FC, Brentford Football Club back before 46 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: he became a famous rock star. The myth goes, as 47 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: the myth goes, Rod chose not to play professionally in 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: order to sing about hot legs and girls named Maggie May. 49 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: But that's not true, Okay. What is true is that 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Rod tried out. It was his life's ambition as a 51 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: child up to that point to become a professional soccer player. 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: He tried out, but the team never called him back. 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: But this was believed forever, basically, and the story originated 54 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: with a young publicist back in the day when Rod's 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: career was just getting going, and the story was embellished 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: throughout the years people believed it. It was of course, 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: overshadowed by another Rod Stewart rock and roll myth that 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into here, and it wasn't 59 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: until Rod himself set the record straight in his twenty 60 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: twelve autobiography, which is really good, by the way, I 61 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: highly recommend it. I'm sure, however, that Rod was at 62 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: least pleased with the notion that people thought he could 63 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: have been a professional soccer player football player. I can't 64 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: say football. I have to say soccer. English listeners, forgive me. 65 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: European listeners, I should say, forgive me when I say soccer. 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I know fully that you guys call it football, and 67 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say soccer because that's. 68 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: What we do over here. We have a whole other game. 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: You know this, all right, I'm not going to get 70 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: into that, Listen. I'd be pleased too if the world 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: thought that I, in addition to being a world famous 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: rock star, could also be a professional athlete. And you know, 73 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: Rod kind of looks the part. I know, it's weird 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: to think of nineteen seventies Rod Stewart as a professional athlete, 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: a professional anything besides a rock star, based on the 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: whole peacock attire and the you know, the hair, all that, 77 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: But if you look at seventies photos of him playing soccer, 78 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: he kind of looks great. He looks the part. I 79 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: gotta say, it's a believable story, but it's not true, 80 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: all right. Number four? Listen, what's up with the dudes 81 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: an Iron Maiden. I swear they're like superhumans or something. 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: Singer Bruce Dickinson literally flies Iron Maiden in their crew 83 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: from gig to gig in a massive Boeing seven forty 84 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: seven jumbo jet. This isn't like John F. Kennedy Junior 85 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: up there in a little prop playing a jumbo jet. 86 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: All right. Bruce Dickinson's also vegan. He's I think two 87 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six years old and still looks thirty three. 88 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I think he's straight edge and he was once ranked 89 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: top twenty in the UK as a fencer, which I'm 90 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: told is a sport. But I'm not here to talk 91 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: about fencing. I'm here to talk about Steve Harris, iron 92 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Man's bass player. And in addition to inventing his own 93 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: style of bass playing that has been aped by tons 94 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: of heavy metal bass guitarists over the years, Steve Harris, 95 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: bass player for Iron Maiden, was also scouted as a 96 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: kid by legendary footballer Wally Saint Pierre and signed to 97 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: west Ham United signed it into their youth program. Anyways, 98 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: now Steve Harris, unlike Rod Stewart, he actually did get 99 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: the call and he chose to play rock and roll instead. 100 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: Still supports west Ham United to this day. Pretty cool, 101 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: all right, Number three, This is the one I really 102 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: want to talk about. Nineteen ninety six great year, so 103 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: called swaggiest game of soccer ever was played in East 104 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: London at a charity event during the height of britpop 105 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: and more specifically, during the height of the Oasis Blur 106 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: battle for britpop supremacy. They literally called it the Battle 107 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: of Britpop. We'll get into the mechanics of all that, 108 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: what that was in the exclusive section of this after party, 109 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and more into the Oasis and Blur a rivalry than 110 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: we're going to do right here. Go to disgracempod dot 111 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: com to sign up, get that exclusive content, get other 112 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: exclusive content, get ad free content, all that, All right, 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: disgraceimpod dot com. That conversation's coming up later. But back 114 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: to this one right here again. The battle for britpop supremacy. Now, 115 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: the battle, you might be surprised to learn, was won 116 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: by Blur with their nineteen ninety five chart dominance of 117 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: their single country House not Country Home. Country House reigning 118 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: supreme over the Oasis single roll with it. However, the war, 119 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: the Britpop war, was ultimately won by Oasis with their 120 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: recent dominance, as witnessed by their twenty twenty five unprecedented 121 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: cultural and commercial resurgence to the New Tour all that stuff. 122 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: You guys know all about that, But back in nineteen 123 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: ninety six, it was still undetermined which of these two 124 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Britpop rivals was going to reign supreme, and no one 125 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: knew who was going to reign supreme on the soccer field. 126 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: On the pitch as they say, Okay, two celebrity teams 127 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: pulled together to bang balls out on the field and 128 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: one team was captained by Damon Alburn from Blur and 129 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: the other team was captained by Liam Gallagher from Oasis. 130 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: It should be mentioned that Damon is a supporter of 131 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: Chelsea and Liam is a support of Man City. On 132 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: the field that day a ton of drama, as you 133 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: can guess, anytime you have Liam Gallagher and Damon from 134 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Blur in the same vicinity, there's gonna be drama. Most 135 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: of it, however, was brought on by Liam. He was 136 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: in Damon's face almost the entire time, physically all over 137 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: them all game. At one point he tried pulling down 138 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: his pants. At another point in the middle of the game, 139 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: he took a smoke smoke break Liam did on the field. 140 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: That makes sense. Chuck to Chuck to cannabar at a reporter, 141 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: that makes sense as well. Just genius Gallagher who will 142 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: get in field work. And of course these guys they 143 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: look great the entire time. Pictures of this event are fascinating, 144 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: just fascinating. They're awesome. You can tell Damon's taking it 145 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of seriously. He's kind of dressed in his own 146 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: little uni and then you got you got Liam who's 147 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: in a in a cagle on the field. Fucking amazing. 148 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: It's so good Damon's team won and Liam of was 149 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: not happy about that. You can hear, like I said, 150 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: you can hear about the Battle of Pop more about 151 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: that with Zeth and I in the exclusive section of 152 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: this after party Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up. 153 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: But if you want to hear more about this is fascinating. 154 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more about how soccer fight songs, okay, 155 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: the big stadium chance, If you want to hear more 156 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: about how that music directly inspired the pop mastery of Oasis. 157 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: You got to check out our Oasis episodes in our archive. 158 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: All right, okay, next number two on our Rob Gordon 159 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: Championship Vinyl list of soccer. What are we doing? Soccer 160 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: rock and roll madness? Number two? This one is the 161 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: weirdest and I've largely ignored stories in my podcasting career 162 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: about Mexican cartels getting involved in the music industry sports 163 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: world as well, but I am blown away at the 164 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: lengths that the cartels go to to grow their criminal enterprises. 165 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, the United States Department United States Treasury 166 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Department revealed that one professional soccer player, Mexican player Rafael Marquez, 167 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: was being used along with a popular Mexican musician, Julio Alvarez, 168 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to launder money for one of the cartels. Not just 169 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: like just to match. We'll get to this in a second. 170 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: Marquez played for Barcelona and was the captain of the 171 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: Mexican national team. Okay, so just imagine that you work 172 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: your whole life to get where you are, the literal 173 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: top of the game of your game, and one day 174 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: a violent drug trafficker comes knocking and he tells you 175 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: that you're going to help him launder his truckloads of 176 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: money by buying and holding expensive assets for him, and 177 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: then you get popped by the Feds and your career 178 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: is ruined. Sort of not really, still yikes. Same goes 179 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: for the musician here. And that's almost a little more 180 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: understandable that a musician would get caught up in kind 181 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: of a racket with a cartel, given that the history 182 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: of the music business it's so closely related to the 183 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: crime business. But sports seems a little more pure, I guess. Anyways, 184 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Marquez the player here, despite the drug cartel allegations, somehow 185 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: cleared his name with Mexican authorities. I'm putting quotes around authorities, 186 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: and built a career as a coach and is now, 187 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: incredibly to this day, the head coach of the Mexican 188 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: national team. There's a lot I could say about this 189 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: story that I'm not saying. You can kind of read 190 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: between the lines here, and all the info is out 191 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: there are and easy to find if you're interested. Okay, 192 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: Number one, Now, I knew the Rod Stewart story here. 193 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I knew about the Oasis and Blur match, I knew 194 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: about Iron maiden Steve Harris. I knew that he was 195 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: some kind of child savant. I should say, I didn't 196 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: quite know the whole soccer connection, and I'm not surprised 197 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: about the Mexican cartel infiltrating the world of soccer and 198 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: music through players and musicians. But somehow, in all of 199 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: my music history research, I never came across the fact 200 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: that Elton John not only owned one, but two professional 201 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: soccer clubs, Watford FC and the Los Angeles as Techs. 202 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Even more important is the fact that Elton John brought 203 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: this football club, Watford. Am I saying that correctly? I'm 204 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: probably not. I apologize to the good people of Watford 205 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: wherever that is. He brought this football club back from 206 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: financial and competitive ruin lowest of the fourth Division, ranked 207 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: dead last ninety two of ninety two, all the way 208 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: to the top tier of the first Basically, Elton John 209 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: did what Ryan Reynolds and Rob from Always Sonny and 210 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia did with Wrexham. Elton John already did it. It's 211 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: just that there wasn't a Hulu back then when he 212 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: did it, so they didn't make a TV show about it. 213 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: But you know what's wild, I thought of this this 214 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: morning when I when I came across this fact. When 215 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: I interviewed Elton John back in twenty nineteen, it was 216 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: May of twenty nineteen, and he asked me. It was 217 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: sort of like after the interview was done, and he 218 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: asked me where I was from, and I told him Boston, 219 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: and he got really animated and excited. He wanted it. 220 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: I thought, this is hysterical. He started talking to me 221 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: about the Boston Bruins because they were in the Stanley 222 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: Cup at that moment, and he was just really animated 223 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: about the success of Boston sports and wanted to know 224 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: what it was like to be a Boston sports fan crazy. 225 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: And this is because, like I said, the Bruins were 226 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: in the Stanley Cup at that moment. They lost the Blues. 227 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: The Celtics were in the Eastern Conference Finals. I think 228 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: they had just lost to Cleveland. I think that was 229 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: Lebron's Cavaliers. I think it was. But a couple months earlier, 230 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots had won the Super Bowl. They'd beaten the Rams, 231 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: and that was in January, and a couple months before that, 232 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: in October early November, the Red Sox had won the 233 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: World Series. It's this fascinating to think that out there 234 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: as a Boston sports fan, that you know, Elton John 235 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: is sitting out there somewhere, you know, thinking about all 236 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the success that we are having as Boston sports fans. 237 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Really blew my mind. And I am so pissed off 238 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: at myself for not knowing this history then about Elton 239 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: John and the football team that he still owns a 240 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: piece of. He's not running the team anymore with his buddy, 241 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: but that he actually he actually did what again, what 242 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds and Rob from Always Sunny are celebrated for doing. 243 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: It's like we've almost completely forgotten about this. It's not 244 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: I guess because Elton John has done so much. Maybe 245 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, he did this thing too, But 246 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I find it completely fascinating. Anyways, there's 247 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: a little rock and roll in soccer history for you guys. Anyways, 248 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: I can find it completely fascinating, and I'm a little 249 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: upset at myself that I wasn't able to bring that 250 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: up with Elton John in the moment and talk to 251 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: him about it and get his perspective of what that 252 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,359 Speaker 1: would have been like. You know, that's a fascinating perspective. 253 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: So few people own and guide the success of professional 254 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: sports teams, never mind while also being one of the 255 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: biggest pop stars on the planet in the history of 256 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: the world. Actually, I would have loved that. I would 257 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: have loved to have asked him what that was like. 258 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: And I didn't get the chance because of my own ignorance, 259 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, bums me out a little bit, all right. Anyways, 260 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: there's a little rock and roll in soccer history for 261 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: you guys for World Cup week here in honor as 262 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: I said of the Hillsboro disaster episode in your feeds. 263 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: This week, speaking of disasters, we have our Marilyn Manson 264 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: archive episode coming in the rewind slot this week. That's 265 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: dropping right after this, So don't go anywhere. We still 266 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of after parties, so don't go anywhere. 267 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: But you know, you know the Manson story. People ask 268 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: me all the time, where do you get these crazy stories? 269 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: How do you know what these rock stars are up to? 270 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: And I often tell them about how well, you know, 271 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: it's all out there. Many of them even put this 272 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: information out there themselves. This guy, this fucking guy, he 273 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: wrote it all down in his book seriously about how 274 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: he was going to commit murder, like in detail how 275 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: he was going to pull off the crime. You know, 276 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: how he degraded women, fans, the abuse, the nihilism, the inhumanity. 277 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: It's all there in his book. All that is in 278 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson's autobiography. So when accusations flooded into the public 279 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: about Manson's treatment of the women in his life a 280 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, none of it was surprising. Actually 281 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: that's not true. It was surprising. Confounding is a better 282 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: word than surprising. Anyhow, check out this episode if you 283 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: have not already, and actually even if you have checked 284 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: it out, even if you have listened, listen again. 285 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: You'll learn more. 286 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: You'll pick up more details, and this episode will not 287 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: fail to shock you even on second listen. Okay, after 288 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson, next week we got a new episode in 289 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: the Feed on George Jones, one of my favorite singers 290 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: of all time, not just my favorite country singers, one 291 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: of my favorite singers period. I hear George's voice and 292 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: I just stop what I'm doing and I listen. George 293 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: had one of the greatest voices ever. So when you're 294 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: listening to this episode, be thinking about which singers do 295 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: it for you the most. Who's got that voice that 296 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: just stops you in your tracks, that can bring you 297 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: to tears, that can make you feel things that you 298 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: don't normally feel. All Right, that's gonna be the question 299 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: of the week. Six one, seven, nine oh six, six, 300 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: six three eight. Give us a call, send us a text, 301 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: let us know your answer. You might hear yourself on 302 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: the after party. Now, I'm really excited about these next 303 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: few episodes we got coming at the beginning of the 304 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: summer this year. The Sonic Youth episode we have coming 305 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: is a banger to be all bangers, and it is 306 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: super true crime. It's not only about Thurston Moore and 307 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: the badassness of Kim Gordon and the awesomeness of Steve 308 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: Shelley and Lee Ronaldo and Thurston and Kim's relationship. It's 309 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: about the true crime story that inspired the cover of 310 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Sonic Youse Goo, A story with two of the coolest 311 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: rock and roll heroes that nobody knows about at the 312 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: center of it. A story about the shocking Moore's murders. Now, 313 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: on the subject of shock, we are soon bringing you 314 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: our heavily requested episode on Wendy Oh Williams. You're like, 315 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: oh cool, maybe I'll check that out. Wendy O. Williams, 316 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: she's one with the duc Take nipples and the chainsaw, 317 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: who dated Lemme from Motorhead all that. Yes, it's about 318 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: all that. Of course, that's kind of the stuff I 319 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: knew about her before we got into this episode and 320 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: putting it together for you guys. But I did not 321 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: understand the emotion and creative heartbreak at the heart of 322 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: Wendy O. Williams's story. It is a heavy one, and 323 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: it's as much about the costs and the soul sucking 324 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I should say, the sometimes soul sucking nature of 325 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: trying to make it in this world as a committed artist, 326 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: as it is about shock and the stuff that you 327 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: would think it would be about when we're talking about 328 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Wendy Williams, it's also about New York and the seventies. 329 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: So it's right up our asle. 330 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna dig it, okay, So little unexpected preview of episodes. 331 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: We are coming up here in Disgraceland this summer, coming 332 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: up right after this. Your voicemails, text DMS emails and more. 333 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: I'll be back in the flash, all right, guys, we 334 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: are back six one seven, nine oh six sixty six 335 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: three eight. 336 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. 337 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm hanging on the telephone with you. Guys. Take your calls. 338 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I want to kind of go all over the map today, 339 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: try to get to some folks you may have fell 340 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: through the cracks with their voicemails and their texts and 341 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: really kind of just no agenda. We can talk about 342 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: anything that we've been talking about over the last few weeks, 343 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: last few months. Let's go to the seven to one nine. 344 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: Where's that Colorado? This is from Sally. 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: Hi. 346 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 4: This is Sally from Colorado. I'm a little behind because 347 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: I just became a paid member. So I'm just now 348 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 4: listening to your after party about the list of the 349 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: thirty most. 350 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 5: Best writers, the songwriters. 351 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: That are still alive, and I just wanted to mention 352 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: that I think there's two things that are important. One, 353 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: I think who you think is missing has a lot 354 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: to do with whether you're a guy or girl. So 355 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 4: that's number one. And number two. As much as you 356 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 4: may not like Diane Warren, Diane Warren, I believe holds 357 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: the record for being nominated for the most Oscars and 358 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: not winning one. Okay, so you know, like eighteen or 359 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: nineteen times. So there's a reason she's on the list. 360 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: You mean, I like her, but there's a reason she's 361 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: on the list. Your show is uh may zing. I 362 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: can't even tell you how excited I am my found it. 363 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 5: Y'all, have a great day. 364 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: Bye, Sally, Thank you for your call. I was just 365 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: having some fun with Diane Warren. Not my cup of tea, 366 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, that big pop stuff. But I completely hear you. 367 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: You said nominated for the most Oscars. I think you 368 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: meant nominated for the most Grammys, right, I think so 369 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: she's basically like the Suzanne Lucci. Was that that woman's name, 370 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: the soap opera star who would get nominated every year 371 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: or not win. And I think, yeah, Diane Warren being 372 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: nominated that many times, having that kind of impact that 373 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: she's had, despite my personal taste, you're absolutely right, deserves 374 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: a spot on the list. So I hear you, Sally, 375 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: and thank you for the kind words about the show 376 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: as well. Appreciate you. Appreciate the new listeners for sure. 377 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate the older listeners as well, who have been here 378 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: since back in the day, Let's go to where are 379 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: we going to go here? Let's go to the three 380 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: eighty five and talk a little Food Fighters. 381 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, big fan, think about Taylor Hawkins. I've been 382 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: a big fan of Food Fighters for a really long time. 383 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 5: I've loved their music videos. I've loved every album, Deep 384 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: Cuts and all that blah blah and everything. And I 385 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 5: watched the documentary on HBO. They bought that album, and 386 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: I did everything short of see them. I never got 387 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: to see them. I never got to see Taylor, and 388 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 5: as a big fan of the Food Fighters, it was 389 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 5: really disappointing. And I delved deeper into their stuff, and 390 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, the reason Taylor Hawkins died was 391 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: pretty boring. It is drugs. That's it. That's my guess, 392 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 5: you know, just of all the things they did. I mean, 393 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 5: they did all the drugs, and they got odd and 394 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 5: they sent to the hospital, and then they made a 395 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 5: documentary about themselves. Are at Peace? 396 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Threade five? Appreciate the call, And I got to quibble 397 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. I just my thinking here on the 398 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: he died from drugs, reasoning, why wouldn't they just say that? 399 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: And again the reaction I think that you would give 400 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: me if we were having a two way convo here 401 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: in real life, you'd say, well, you know, they didn't 402 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: want his kids to know, his kids to know, they 403 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: want his family to you know, have to deal with 404 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: whatever the ramifications are, public opinion, blah blah blah. But 405 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: we live in a world where addiction is more understood 406 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: than it ever has been before. It's certainly more socially 407 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: acceptable as a disease and no longer seen as something 408 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: that you know, as the mark of somebody who's weak 409 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: or a personality defect or anything like that. And it 410 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: just makes me think that, you know, if it were 411 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: a drug overdose, even if it were accident, you know, 412 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: even if he was like smoking a joint and have 413 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: like fentanyl honor or something, if that were the case, 414 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: they would say that. But they just have not. And 415 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: in the absence of a reason, there has to be 416 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: a different reason. I guess, I don't know. I don't know. 417 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Six one seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight. 418 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: You got any more theories on the Foo fighters, Hit 419 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: us up you want to talk about anything at all, 420 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: Hit us up voicemail and text nine to seven, Ozer 421 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: writes in on a popular popular subject. Here cover songs 422 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: on the disgrace Sand question of unlikely covers. I know 423 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm late, but run River North cover of mister Bright's 424 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Side is amazing. Starts as a kind of coffee shop cover, 425 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: but then turns into an amazing string arrangement and some 426 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: great harmonies. It's beautiful. I think there's a lot of 427 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: covers of killer songs because they're the melodies are epic 428 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: and scope and they just they lend themselves to great interpretations. 429 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for the recommendation here. Nine to seven zero, 430 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: run River North. I never heard of him, but I 431 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: will check it out. My son, my youngest, is obsessed 432 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: with this song right now, so I'll look it up 433 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: and I'll play it for him. Seven to seven zero 434 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Rights and Hey, Jake, it's Jake. The Sopranos is my 435 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: favorite show of all time. And I had an important note. 436 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: When Chrissy and Tony Chrissy are driving and listening to 437 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: the Roger Waters live version of Comfortably Numb. They're listening 438 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: to it off of the Departed soundtrack, which I've always 439 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: found to be very interesting, especially considering the episode air 440 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: just a year after the movie was released. There's also 441 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: overlap between the two, as armand Garo plays Coco and 442 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: Sopranos and plays one of the prominence gangsters who gets 443 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: this ass kicked by Billy Costigan in the Departed. Love 444 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: the show, Keep up the great work, Rock a Rolla. 445 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: First of all, the guy who plays Coco is one 446 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: of the most frightening dudes to ever come on the 447 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: screen in Sopranos, and I do record I do remember 448 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: him from Departed as well. Yeah, there's some crazy crossover there. 449 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: I just talked about this. I can't tell if your 450 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: text is if you're writing me in relation to what 451 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: we were just talking about, or if this is just coincidental. 452 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I did not mention that the actual CD that Chris 453 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: Malta Sante is listening to in that scene in the 454 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: Kennedy and Heidi episode. Not going to spoil it. I 455 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: did not mention that it was a Departed soundtrack that 456 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: he's listening to, because I forgot and he reminded me. 457 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: And I think he says something about it too, doesn't he. 458 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: I think he says something about the soundtrack. I don't know, Jake, 459 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: let me know. Six one seven nine oh six six 460 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: six three eight Manny Bravo from the seven three to 461 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: two in the Rock and Roll Asbury Park, New Jersey 462 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: writes in I'm so glad that you were talking about 463 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: Widow's Bay on Apple TV. It's such a great show. 464 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: I've been telling everyone about it. Each character has done 465 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: so well with a little background on each stories of 466 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, you're right, you're right, Manny. Was I 467 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: talking about Widows Bang? Or was Zeth in the Rap Party? 468 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Back to the Sopranos with the five 469 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: six to two, we might have some clarity on this 470 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: on this Departed issue. 471 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: Here. 472 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: This one's from Celeste. She writes in, Hey Jake, I'm 473 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: a Sopranos super fan and I had to drop a line. 474 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: Christopher was playing the soundtrack from The Departed for Tony. 475 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: Christopher comments about how bad the sound system in his car. 476 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: It is fiddling with it. He takes his eyes off 477 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the road, and the rest is history. Hm hmm ps. 478 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for the recommendation on DTF Saint Louis. I only 479 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: checked it out because you said it was good, Celeste. 480 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: You You're welcome there, Celeste. I wonder if we're getting 481 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: other dtfs. The title makes me think we are a 482 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: DTF Saint Louis. Maybe they're gonna do like a DTF Chicago, 483 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: DTF Boston. I'd be into that. This one comes from 484 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the five three. Hello, new listener, Really love your podcast Disgraceland. 485 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Just got done listening to the Kanye episode about bipolar 486 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: one disorder, and it really resonated with me because my 487 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: mom and my brother both suffer from bipolar disord order. 488 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: One suffers from bipolar two and the other from bipolar one, 489 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: just like Kanye, and I will say his depiction of 490 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: a manic episode is a thousand percent accurate. My brother 491 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: will be okay one day, and then the next he 492 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: will think he is the next Messiah and that he 493 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: has to build the next Kingdom of God. Sorry for 494 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: the long text, but if Kanye really is telling the 495 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: truth about having bipolar one disorder, I feel for him. 496 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: The saddest part is they don't think anything's wrong with them, 497 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: and then they think that once they're on medication and 498 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: everything's normal, they can just stop taking it and things 499 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: will stay the same. Appreciate the text five h three. 500 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: I've experienced with this in my family as well, with 501 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: my grandmother and my sister and appreciate the text. Yeah, 502 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about Kanye. It's a 503 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: really hard thing to talk about. It's a really hard 504 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: thing to think about. I hope somebody reads a great 505 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: book one day. All right, guy six one seven nine 506 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: o six six sixty three eight. Voicemail and text. You 507 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: want to hit me up anything, have at it. Now's 508 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: a good time. I'm going on vacation and going on 509 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: vacation for two weeks, so I'm banging out these after 510 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: party episodes. It's a good time to get in touch. 511 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: You might hear yourself. Six one seven nine oh six 512 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: sixty sixty three eight. But you gotta do it soon, 513 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: all right, hit me up voicemail on text. Le'll be 514 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: back right after this with more of you emails, dms, 515 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: more coming up. All right, we are back to Scraceham 516 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: pod at gmail dot com. I gotta clean something up here. 517 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: I made a little mistake in that John Lennon episode, 518 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: which has been live for a while now. We released 519 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: it back into the wild with our rewind this past week. 520 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: This email comes from Leslie Forton, who points out that hey, 521 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: the Freedom Rally concert for John Sinclair in your John 522 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Lennon episode was not at Pontiac Stadium. I lived in 523 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: Pontiac at the time and never heard of such a place. 524 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: It was at Chrysler Arena in Ann Arbor at the 525 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: University of Michigan. Now, Leslie, thank you for this. I 526 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: messed up. I'm not trying to cast blame elsewhere, but 527 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: I wonder if I read a mistake and depiction of 528 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: this venue in my research, or if my brain just 529 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: read Pontiac excuse me, Red Chrysler, and then I voiced Pontiac. 530 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Either or possible. I'm guessing it's the latter. I'm guessing 531 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: that's what happened my brain. Just fritz there. I apologize 532 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you pointing this out. We got to 533 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: clean that up and that is something that we will 534 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: do shortly. Disgrace iPod at gmail dot com. I want 535 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: to thank artist Faulkner. Listener from doesn't say Here, but 536 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: he sends along a video with Henry Rowlands talking about 537 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: the new release from the Cramps. There's a new Cramps 538 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: release and I don't know what the hell that is, 539 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: but we got to figure it out. I'm dig into 540 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: this rollin video. Thank you artists, appreciate you Emily L writes, ining, Hey, 541 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: you asked if there is something in music history. When 542 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: we hear about it, it just makes us angry. Well, I'm 543 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to go with Live Nation and Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster 544 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: has been known to cheat Live steel and rip us 545 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: off for years and get away with it. Live Nation 546 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: has lied their way out of so many lawsuits and 547 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: gets away with murder. These are two of the most 548 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: evil corporations right now in the music gedust here. Absolutely right, Emily, 549 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: I do not disagree. It's maddening. I love how Jack 550 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Antonov is at the front of this conversation. I don't understand. 551 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: This is just insane. It's I don't even like getting 552 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: into it because it's one of those things I try. 553 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm really hard as I'm getting older to not focus 554 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: on things that are making me angry. This is this 555 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: is one of a man right up there, Disgrace sampod 556 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We want to hit us up. 557 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: We'll entertain any topic. Actually that's not true. Make it 558 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: about music and or a true crime. Sure fire away 559 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: to hear your email read all right, listen. Earlier somebody 560 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: had mentioned that I recommended what was it, DTF Saint 561 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: Louis as another. Somebody else mentioned another recommendation I can't 562 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: remember it was. If you want recommendations for me on 563 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: the regular, they're happening in the Hollywood Feed in the 564 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Wrap Party episode where myself and Zeth Lundy each week 565 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: give you recommendations. I give you music recommendations, Zeth gives 566 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: you film recommendations. Usually they're centered around some sort of crime. 567 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: They're almost always centered around whatever that week's Hollywood and 568 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: crime subject is that we're talking about in Hollywood Land. 569 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland Podcast if 570 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: you're not all ready. Also doctor Lundi and I. He's 571 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: not only my doctor, he's also my attorney. Zeth and 572 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: I are talking music in films, great soundtracks, great music supervision, 573 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: our favorite films with the best music in our video podcast. 574 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: This film should be played loud and you can hear that, 575 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: and you can watch that right now. By becoming an 576 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 1: All Access member, our newest episode on the Royal tenebaumbs, 577 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: go to Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up. You'll 578 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: get exclusive content like this, plus ad free content, plus 579 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: exclusive content like the conversation we're having about the Battle 580 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: of Britpop, Oasis and Blur. That's happening right now again. 581 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: If you want to hear it, go to Disgrace sampod 582 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up. 583 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: All right, I'll be back in a flash. 584 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Let's recap. We talked about 585 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Iron Maiden today. Don't have an episode on Iron Maiden. 586 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: I'd love to research one, though. They're a band that 587 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: I there's parts of their catalog that I really love 588 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: and parts I'm not interested in, but I am interested 589 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: in the band in their history. We talked about Rod 590 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Stewart and remarkably, we don't have a Rod Stewart episode either. 591 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Of course, we mentioned Oasis. Check out those Oasis episodes 592 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: in our archive. Matt's gonna have episode information in the 593 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: show notes section of this after party to help you 594 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: easily navigate to our Oasis episodes. It's that time. We've 595 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: come to the end of another after party. I gotta 596 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: get out of here, so let's recap real quick, shall we. 597 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: Number one this week, our episode on the Hillsborough disaster 598 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: is available for the world. Cupiness of everything that's happening. 599 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: You can check that out right now. A Number two, 600 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: our rewind episode on Marilyn Manson is coming your way 601 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: right after this. Number three. Next week our new episode 602 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: on George Jones. Number four is that's going to give 603 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: you those Hollywood and crime vibes in the Hollywood Land podcast. 604 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: So make sure you are subscribed wherever you get your podcasts. 605 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video 606 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: podcast this month on Royal Tenebombs is available for you 607 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: to watch. Go to disgracelandpod dot com to sign up. 608 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: Number six six one seven nine oh six six six 609 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: three eight. Your voice keeps us sticking into the dark 610 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: corners of music history, so keep calling, texting giving us 611 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: your answers to this week's question of the week or 612 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: to whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven. 613 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Don't forget disc goes. This isn't just content. It's a community, 614 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: a community the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, 615 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: records and the crime and grime that ties them all 616 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: together like you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right. 617 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: April fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine, that's when the Hillsborough disaster 618 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: went down, and this is what America is listening to 619 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: on that day. According to the Billboard Charts, number one 620 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: she drives me crazy. Fine Young Cannibals last week four 621 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: peak position one weeks on chart twelve, number number two, 622 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: You Look rock Set last week number one, peak position 623 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: one weeks on chart tes number three, four Like a 624 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: Prayer weeks on DNA. Last week last five, peak position 625 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: weeks on chart weeks on five last week number four. 626 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Eternal Flame the Banks last week number two number peak 627 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: position one weeks on Shot last number five. Quit talking 628 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: and start mixing.