WEBVTT - NBA MVP Best Bets | 2026

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<v Speaker 1>What these young bloods have to understand, that this game

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<v Speaker 1>has always been and will always be about buckets.

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<v Speaker 2>Just attack the basket. Stop it! Stop it! Do not

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<v Speaker 2>do it like that! With no regard for human life! Bang! Bang!

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe you've done it again! Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Buckets. My name is Matt Moore. We are

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<v Speaker 1>back and we are talking MVP. This is Buckets brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by DraftKings Sportsbook. The crown is in fact yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad to have you guys with us. I'm Matt Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>your host. Joining me today, Brandon Kravitz, host of The Favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>You know him from Buckets. You know him from The Favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>BK is not a well man. He is not a,

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<v Speaker 1>he is, well, sorry. We never say that he's a

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<v Speaker 1>well man, but he is less so than usual. He

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<v Speaker 1>is very under the weather as we record this on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday night for thanks for hanging in there and doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show with BBK.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just glad that I'm getting it out of the

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<v Speaker 3>way before the NBA season starts. Something like this usually

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<v Speaker 3>happens to me about two weeks into specifically the magic season.

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<v Speaker 2>Cause I do the pre and post game. on the

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<v Speaker 2>magic radio network.

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<v Speaker 3>And, and every year without fail, I sound like this

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<v Speaker 3>about three games into the season. So I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>liked the fact that I'm getting it out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll just MVP our way through this sort of jazzy,

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<v Speaker 3>sultry voice, sultry, sultry voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you topping it out here tonight on tonight's show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about MVP. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the topic du jour of the night is we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into MVP and and break that down on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. If you're curious about Brandon Anderson, basically because

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon always kills on MVP Brandon, because he does football,

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<v Speaker 1>it just takes up so much of his time. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back with us for like playoffs next year as always.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure like Brandon will be like, no, I haven't done,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done any prep. I couldn't possibly, I will

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you that by the time that we get the

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<v Speaker 1>opening night, Brandon will have Brandon Anderson will have bets

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready to go. All right, let's get into the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the board here as we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about MVP and the market. Some just basic parameters that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go over, and these things aren't I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're seeing a little bit of variation in recent

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<v Speaker 1>years in terms of how the awards have been handled

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<v Speaker 1>and then breaking some of the, the, the markers, but

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<v Speaker 1>MVP is largely held up. And here's the reality. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>pick them before they're 22. Don't pick them after they're 29.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Like that's the biggest one. We have two

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<v Speaker 1>MVP winners past the age of 28 in the last

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<v Speaker 1>30 years, 30 years. We're talking two winners, right? Steve Nash,

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant, over the age of 28. They just don't win.

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<v Speaker 1>Nikola Jokic last year, 29, was 30.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Giannis, nope. We'll talk about those guys because they have

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<v Speaker 1>to be included in this conversation because they're amongst the

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<v Speaker 1>top five players in the world. They are always the

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<v Speaker 1>highest or second highest usage player on their team. They

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<v Speaker 1>always lead in either points, rebounds, or assists on their team.

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<v Speaker 1>every winner has recorded at least 1.1 stocks per game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a surprising fact that I found today. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not role players. You know who they are. They're superstar players.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like who they're always going to be. And

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<v Speaker 1>typically they are top three seats for the vast majority,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Westbrook and Jokic. They're almost always

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<v Speaker 1>a top three seat. We had those guys and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, this is a whole new era. And

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<v Speaker 1>then went back to like, no, if you want a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of games and you're really good, you're probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to win MVP. Um, so keep that in mind as

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of go through this cycle, we'll talk about the, the,

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<v Speaker 1>the parameters of all these kinds of things. Rookies don't win. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Rose was youngest at 22 in the last 30 years. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and typically speaking, like, you know, who these kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>factors are. We now have the 65 game rule. So

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<v Speaker 1>we know like what kind, we know that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to reach certain minutes. I will say that the women,

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<v Speaker 1>you almost have last year, I think. pretty conclusively proves,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he finished third, I think it pretty conclusively

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<v Speaker 1>proves you can play 65 and win. You don't, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just like, that's the minimum bar. It's like, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you hit 65, they're not going to hold

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<v Speaker 1>the games against you. So even if somebody scores or

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<v Speaker 1>log 70 games, if you're better at 65, then somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is at 80. You are still likely, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>win this award. All winners have previously established themselves as

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<v Speaker 1>NBA all-stars prior to their winning seasons. They've always been

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<v Speaker 1>former All-Stars. And most of them shoot a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>free throws because they have the ball a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>their hands. These are just kind of like the basics

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<v Speaker 1>for you to keep in mind. Let's try and put

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<v Speaker 1>them in context here, BK, as we start to go

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<v Speaker 1>through the list provided by DraftKings Sportsbook. The crown is,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, yours. MVP, the leader in the clubhouse, is

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<v Speaker 1>Victor Weminyama, plus 210. And he fits all of these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of categories straight up. He fits, you know, all-star

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<v Speaker 1>big name team wins a lot, keeps getting better, made

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<v Speaker 1>a big push last season. I think there was an

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<v Speaker 1>argument for him to be number one last season. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, it sounds like you think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the smart money should go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's tough to lock up the dough for

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<v Speaker 3>a plus two 10, but I've, I mean, I'm locking

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<v Speaker 3>up money on wind totals.

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<v Speaker 2>So really what's the difference?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if he plays 65, I just don't see

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<v Speaker 3>a world where the Spurs aren't elite. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>case for who makes the biggest impact in winning isn't

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<v Speaker 3>then Victor Wimbinyama.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not like this is low-hanging fruit. It's just accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>His efficiency went up as he shot less.

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<v Speaker 2>Threes last season.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the unanimous defensive player of the year, led

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<v Speaker 3>the league in blocks, defensive win shares. He was plus

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<v Speaker 3>12.9 in the playoffs. So he actually got better as

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<v Speaker 3>the season went along and he's just simply getting better anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So a Victor when Benyama last year, that was good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>If SGA wasn't the most efficient player we've ever seen

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<v Speaker 3>in NBA history and breaking Wilts 20 point consecutive game streak,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he, he might've been the MVP last year.

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<v Speaker 3>It just feels like he's preordained and look, SGA could

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<v Speaker 3>do all the same things that he did a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if he's going to be your

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<v Speaker 3>nomination of the guys that are at the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the board, but when you say it's hard to win

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<v Speaker 3>past 29, it's hard to win before you're 22.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to win.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've already won twice in a row, the last

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<v Speaker 3>person to do it is Larry bird in the mid eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Michael Jordan. LeBron James, most of us hoop heads

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<v Speaker 3>consider those two the greatest in our lifetime. They never

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<v Speaker 3>three-peated the MVP. I'm just not willing to bet that

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<v Speaker 3>SGA is the one that breaks that mold. So if

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<v Speaker 3>we're going with the obvious, there's a four, seven, six

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<v Speaker 3>guy in San Antonio that's at least worth a bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a hard time blaming you for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only real concern, I think, is not

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<v Speaker 1>the only real concern. He can get outplayed, but If

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<v Speaker 1>the Spurs take a step back or if he misses

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<v Speaker 1>the games mark, those are obviously concerns. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the games mark. It's more of a risk

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<v Speaker 1>with Wemba and Yama than Cade, even though Cade played

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<v Speaker 1>fewer because of his collapsed lung last year. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>freak thing. Cade would have breezed over the number, the

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<v Speaker 1>65 mark. Wemba is more of a concern for games

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<v Speaker 1>played than a lot of the other guys, but everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of at risk now with this modern NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what makes betting the awards in the preseason so

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<v Speaker 1>hard is because everybody's missing so much time. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we do have this limit now on 65 games, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to kind of fade the spurs

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim and I are in kind of alignment on

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<v Speaker 1>this of like, I think that they take a step back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the finals hangover is a real thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they played deep into the season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not entirely sure that they're, they were quite

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<v Speaker 1>as good as the numbers showed last year, but then like,

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to base it on that kind of analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>then my metric analysis should pop out that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to win fewer games, and I have them at 60.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they're going to win 60 games, Victor's going

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<v Speaker 1>to win MVP, because even if Shea wins 65, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm sorry, but if, like you said, if Jordan, LeBron,

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<v Speaker 1>and Curry, not to mention Nikola Jokic, if those guys

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<v Speaker 1>can't win three in a row, I'm sorry, Shea Gillis-Alexander,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too much of like, I will say the, the,

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<v Speaker 1>the bar in 2023 was kind of set like Nicola

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<v Speaker 1>Yogich had one of the greatest offensive seasons, maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>NBA history. And they were just like, Nope, can't give

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<v Speaker 1>it to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and that's the thing, like you're every time

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<v Speaker 3>you win, the bar gets raised. SGA was incredible two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. So he had to do something that was

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<v Speaker 3>even better than what he did the year prior. 67%

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<v Speaker 3>true shooting. That is not a real number. They had

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<v Speaker 3>the best record in the NBA. And I think that

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<v Speaker 3>breaking the 20-point streak breaking wilt chamberlain's record that that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't just that season that spanned multiple seasons but i

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<v Speaker 3>think doing that last year was enough of the narrative

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<v Speaker 3>check for him to get the award last year he's

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<v Speaker 3>got to do something else that is historic in its

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<v Speaker 3>nature and he's kind of running out of stuff so

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<v Speaker 3>that's the tough part with shea gilgis alexander.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah um It's tough because I don't necessarily feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a drop-off in Shea. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just going to put in the same numbers

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<v Speaker 1>that he always does. It's going to be 30-6. Like 32-6.

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<v Speaker 1>I did note this. I thought this was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Every winner... If we go back to 2019 and Giannis...

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<v Speaker 1>Every winner except Jokic... has average 30 points a game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's like a very important thing to note

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<v Speaker 1>here because it does kind of set this reference point

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<v Speaker 1>of like, look, if you would better be Jokic level

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<v Speaker 1>of impact where you are leading, like last season, he

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<v Speaker 1>led the league is kind of crazy that he led

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<v Speaker 1>the league last season in rebounds and assists did not

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<v Speaker 1>win MVP. Got a second. Like that's crazy. If any

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<v Speaker 1>other season, a guy had led in rebounds and assists,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably gets voted. Um, But the Nuggets also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the win gap was significant there. But yeah, Shea was

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<v Speaker 1>31 and then 32.7 the year before. Embiid was 33.

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<v Speaker 1>Giannis was 29.5. You have to go back to 18-19 Giannis. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it was 19-20 where he scored 30. 18-19 Giannis was 27.7.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the last time that we haven't had a 30 point.

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<v Speaker 1>And then before that was Harden at 30.4 and Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>at 31.6. Curry at 30. you have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to 2015 for anybody below 24 points per game. So you,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to put it in buckets.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not going to be one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>passing guys in the league, you better be an absolute engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's able to put in triple doubles every night and

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<v Speaker 1>be like a super impactful guy by the metrics and

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<v Speaker 1>win a bunch of games. If you're going to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a, I think this is an argument against Wendy.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. Yeah. And I think part of it is the,

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<v Speaker 2>is the clutch stuff too. Cause that's something else. that

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<v Speaker 2>SGA had last year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the reasons if you were someone that

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking about maybe you wanted to throw a Brunson

0:12:39.390 --> 0:12:42.829
<v Speaker 3>ticket in there, I think this stuff matters a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>175 clutch points last year, 16 go-ahead shots in the

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<v Speaker 3>final five minutes. That stuff matters to voters. And those

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<v Speaker 3>were SGA stats last year. That's not really... what Victor

0:12:56.790 --> 0:12:59.870
<v Speaker 3>Wambinyama's game is for the San Antonio Spurs.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do it, obviously. He can do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But if anything holds him back, I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 3>the late-game heroics. The final two minutes, is he the

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<v Speaker 3>guy hitting the shot throughout the course of the season,

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<v Speaker 3>like you see from Steph, like you see from SGA,

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<v Speaker 3>like you see from Brunson?

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<v Speaker 1>So, Shea, I think there is too much voter fatigue.

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<v Speaker 1>you may miss out. Like, look, you can bet this

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<v Speaker 1>now and Shay might just win 65 games and the

0:13:29.410 --> 0:13:31.610
<v Speaker 1>spurs might fall off and nobody can touch him. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's just it. Like this is, this is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the gambling part of it. Um, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's where I do not think there's good value on

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<v Speaker 1>Shea Gillis, Alexander at plus three 50, Nicola Yogich plus 500. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put this one very simply. Look, I think Joker's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as good as ever. I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>he's motivated after the, this, he, he was not happy

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<v Speaker 1>with how he played in the playoffs. Um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to come in pretty fired up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to put together a phenomenal season.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also going to pace himself. And this Nuggets team

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<v Speaker 1>is worse than it has been.

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<v Speaker 2>It just is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gotten worse year over year roster wise from last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost him all the way junior. They lost some depth.

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<v Speaker 1>They're relying on more inexperienced guys. There's some guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench. I really like, I like alpha Diallo. I

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<v Speaker 1>like Marvin Bagley. Spencer Jones is back, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>some guys. There's a very, I think the floor of

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<v Speaker 1>this team is probably lower because they have had trouble

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<v Speaker 1>staying healthy. with Aaron Gordon in particular, Jokic got hurt

0:14:20.230 --> 0:14:21.630
<v Speaker 1>last year, but he almost never gets hurt. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily worried about Joker. Jamal was fully healthy last

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<v Speaker 1>year for almost the entirety. That that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had some injury problems as well. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>floor for this team is like 46, 47. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they win 46 to 47 games, there's no way Joker

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<v Speaker 1>wins MVP, but it's just as simple as like, look,

0:14:40.020 --> 0:14:44.310
<v Speaker 1>the miles matter. Joker can't go every single night at,

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<v Speaker 1>top ends on both ends. He still is an elite

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<v Speaker 1>offensively every single night, but his defense has gotten way worse,

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<v Speaker 1>way worse. He was decent in 2023. He's never been good,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was like decent in 23. I would have

0:14:56.550 --> 0:14:57.910
<v Speaker 1>stuck up for him and been like, no, his defense

0:14:57.930 --> 0:14:59.550
<v Speaker 1>is pretty good this year. Like he did his job,

0:14:59.970 --> 0:15:02.550
<v Speaker 1>but 24 was a little bit worse. 25. It fell

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<v Speaker 1>off a cliff 26. It fell off a deeper cliff

0:15:04.910 --> 0:15:06.450
<v Speaker 1>and he's just straight up bad now. And he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give effort because he's coasting through the regular season and

0:15:08.700 --> 0:15:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that's going to cost them wins. It just is. So

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<v Speaker 1>the age, that matters. Giannis is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>sexy pick because the Heat dominated in their first preseason game.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Giannis' odds of making it to 65,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, are lower than anybody else on here because

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<v Speaker 1>he's older. He is more athletically based. He does have

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<v Speaker 1>more contact injuries. He's got all of those kind of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>He just plays a more physical style, which wears on him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think Giannis is the bet either. Jokic

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<v Speaker 1>and Giannis are out for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jokic, I think you can give it to him

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<v Speaker 3>any year. So he's kind of like the default guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me. He's the default guy.

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<v Speaker 3>If nobody else is spectacular, which is highly unlikely with

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<v Speaker 3>the talent we have at the top of the league

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<v Speaker 3>right now, he would just go to Jokic.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that's how he gets it is.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's just, we don't know who to give it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Here you go. Jokic. You have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Cause we know what numbers he's going to produce the

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<v Speaker 3>honest one. He doesn't fit the age angle. He's 31

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<v Speaker 3>years old. I do think that I'm going to push

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<v Speaker 3>back a little bit on Giannis at 12 to one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the new location for him helps the image

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<v Speaker 3>is almost being treated like a new player. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we love our new shiny toys in the NBA media,

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<v Speaker 3>and he feels like one. He's also one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most impactful players.

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<v Speaker 2>In the league.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at things like EPM, he's right up

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<v Speaker 3>there with guys who are double the price. Jokic, SGA, Wemby.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Giannis has all of those things in his bag.

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<v Speaker 3>He's won the MVP before. And if he's able to

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<v Speaker 3>elevate the Miami Heat, he's going to get all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Credit for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the numbers, the analytics love Giannis. So I could

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<v Speaker 3>see him having a path. I just personally, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to bet it because I'm not that high on

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<v Speaker 3>the Heat this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you are, I think this is a way

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<v Speaker 2>to back them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just can't get there. I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to think, are the Miami Heat with this roster going

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<v Speaker 1>to win more games than some of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are on this list? And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very tough sell to be like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a super Heat fan, you could just be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to win 60 games. Okay, cool. But I

0:17:16.980 --> 0:17:19.119
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're going to win 60 games. And if

0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.020
<v Speaker 1>you want to be like, who's going to win 60 games? Well,

0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.590
<v Speaker 1>the Pistons did it last year. So, and the Celtics

0:17:24.609 --> 0:17:27.649
<v Speaker 1>have done it multiple times with Jason Tatum, who we'll

0:17:27.670 --> 0:17:30.830
<v Speaker 1>talk about in a little bit. Luka Doncic is not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad bet plus 550. If you think the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>roster is good, like Jim Turvey, you should probably bet

0:17:35.910 --> 0:17:39.810
<v Speaker 1>the 550 on Luka. He has been preseason favorite multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never won the award, which I got in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trouble for pointing out the other day. If

0:17:46.930 --> 0:17:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you think this roster makes sense and you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to win 50 plus games, Luka Doncic at plus

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<v Speaker 1>550 has value. I don't think they're going to win

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<v Speaker 1>50 games. I am lower on the roster. I'm not adamant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, no, I wouldn't take a position in

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<v Speaker 1>a prediction market. No. On Luka Doncic MVP. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not bet that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>One, it's going to make, you're just not gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>that much, but two, I just think it's, you know,

0:18:14.410 --> 0:18:16.990
<v Speaker 1>it's entirely possible. He wins. I just want to see

0:18:17.010 --> 0:18:19.380
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers get the lead first. And if they get

0:18:19.460 --> 0:18:21.500
<v Speaker 1>pop out and they start off 10 and two, the

0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>value is going to be gone. Luke is going to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot to the top of this list. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be minus one 25 by the time that we get

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<v Speaker 1>to Christmas. And that's fine. I will miss out on

0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.709
<v Speaker 1>this market. This market's really tough this year, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>with the injury stuff and with guys getting older. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's just no question of, if we look at the

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<v Speaker 1>age times production times stats times the Lakers of it all,

0:18:40.450 --> 0:18:42.490
<v Speaker 1>Luka Doncic plus 550. There's no way I could say

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad bet, BK.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, their win total is around 45 and

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<v Speaker 3>a half. So you're already in dangerous territory as it

0:18:52.230 --> 0:18:55.609
<v Speaker 3>goes with that. You know he's going to miss time.

0:18:56.670 --> 0:18:58.830
<v Speaker 3>So is he going to miss too much time to

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<v Speaker 3>where he's not even eligible? That's always a possibility. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think with the Lakers in general, it's hard to

0:19:05.290 --> 0:19:08.410
<v Speaker 3>buy them before the season because usually the market's kind

0:19:08.450 --> 0:19:12.830
<v Speaker 3>of like in on the Lakers. So Luka is absolutely

0:19:12.869 --> 0:19:16.390
<v Speaker 3>somebody you should keep on the radar. Be easy to do.

0:19:16.790 --> 0:19:19.390
<v Speaker 3>He's a fun watch. He's not somebody I would bet

0:19:19.410 --> 0:19:22.740
<v Speaker 3>before the season starts. Wait until you get the news

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.550
<v Speaker 3>that Luka's out for two weeks. And then you can

0:19:27.230 --> 0:19:29.950
<v Speaker 3>take a position on Luka Doncic to an MVP.

0:19:30.510 --> 0:19:31.350
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:19:31.750 --> 0:19:33.260
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, he looks in shape. I was told, JJ

0:19:33.940 --> 0:19:38.419
<v Speaker 1>Redick told reporters that he has, quote, done sprints and stuff.

0:19:39.100 --> 0:19:40.140
<v Speaker 1>So good for him.

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing sprints. So that kind of wraps up your top five.

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<v Speaker 1>Victor is a, it's fine to bet. Shay is a

0:19:49.940 --> 0:19:52.980
<v Speaker 1>no Giannis and Luca to me or knows Giannis is

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a maybe for BK. Uh, Luca is, I just don't

0:19:57.700 --> 0:20:00.040
<v Speaker 1>think that you could say it's bad value at five 50.

0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.100
<v Speaker 1>He's just been too much of a preseason favorite over

0:20:02.140 --> 0:20:04.450
<v Speaker 1>and over and over again. If you have any faith

0:20:04.510 --> 0:20:06.609
<v Speaker 1>in the Lakers, you should be looking at Luca plus

0:20:06.630 --> 0:20:09.230
<v Speaker 1>five 50. Like he, It is going to be so

0:20:09.470 --> 0:20:12.780
<v Speaker 1>easy for Luka Doncic to win. It just is going

0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.940
<v Speaker 1>to be very easy for Luka Doncic to win. Clip that, Stringyard.

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum is next, but I want to hold on

0:20:21.220 --> 0:20:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to him for a reason. Ants plus 1,800 at DraftKings.

0:20:29.290 --> 0:20:36.449
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting. 18 probably gives us runway before the

0:20:36.510 --> 0:20:39.530
<v Speaker 1>market catches up. Or like if this moves, if the

0:20:39.710 --> 0:20:43.260
<v Speaker 1>Wolves start off extremely hot and they look like world

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.919
<v Speaker 1>beaters and they're plus 900 by the time that we

0:20:45.940 --> 0:20:48.659
<v Speaker 1>get to the cup, right? Middle of cup play in

0:20:48.700 --> 0:20:52.270
<v Speaker 1>November after a month of play. Okay, you might be

0:20:52.290 --> 0:20:53.510
<v Speaker 1>able to talk me into it. He's going to be

0:20:53.530 --> 0:20:55.909
<v Speaker 1>so much of a pure scorer this season. You can

0:20:55.950 --> 0:20:58.450
<v Speaker 1>already tell that the design of the Wolves is, and

0:20:59.130 --> 0:21:01.730
<v Speaker 1>it's basically like, I don't want to have to play make.

0:21:01.910 --> 0:21:03.740
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have to read doubles. I don't

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.300
<v Speaker 1>want to have to do this. I want to score.

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm a scorer. I've become a great shooter. Get me

0:21:08.740 --> 0:21:10.219
<v Speaker 1>somebody who can get me the ball. So they went

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.379
<v Speaker 1>out and they got LaMelo Ball, and LaMelo can't finish,

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.850
<v Speaker 1>and LaMelo's shooting, especially his shot discipline, is very terrible,

0:21:16.210 --> 0:21:18.189
<v Speaker 1>and his defense isn't great. But you know what he's

0:21:18.210 --> 0:21:20.890
<v Speaker 1>really great at? Passing. So he will just find Anthony

0:21:20.950 --> 0:21:23.030
<v Speaker 1>Edwards over and over and over again. He'll drive downhill

0:21:23.330 --> 0:21:26.369
<v Speaker 1>and force a double and kick. I have some questions

0:21:26.410 --> 0:21:29.350
<v Speaker 1>about whether or not he can get there. If LaMelo

0:21:29.410 --> 0:21:32.170
<v Speaker 1>is handling the ball a ton and Ant has shifted

0:21:32.210 --> 0:21:36.949
<v Speaker 1>back into... defender and individual scorer. I have some questions

0:21:36.990 --> 0:21:40.170
<v Speaker 1>about him being able to overcome somebody like Shay, even,

0:21:40.369 --> 0:21:43.510
<v Speaker 1>even with the three time thing, being able to overcome the, the,

0:21:43.650 --> 0:21:46.050
<v Speaker 1>the beast there. But like, I understand it. If you

0:21:46.090 --> 0:21:48.550
<v Speaker 1>want to buy in on, on Anthony Edwards, he does

0:21:48.609 --> 0:21:52.090
<v Speaker 1>fit in the timeline. He is very popular and his

0:21:52.150 --> 0:21:55.490
<v Speaker 1>shooting is absolutely preposterous. He won't have as many turnovers

0:21:55.530 --> 0:21:57.270
<v Speaker 1>cause he won't have to play make. That'll be the

0:21:57.330 --> 0:21:59.890
<v Speaker 1>cost of his assists, but his defense might get better.

0:21:59.950 --> 0:22:01.650
<v Speaker 1>He might look the most like Jordan. He ever has

0:22:01.690 --> 0:22:02.430
<v Speaker 1>this year, Brandon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that sort of player, which sounds blasphemous to

0:22:08.590 --> 0:22:11.470
<v Speaker 3>say because I'm talking about Michael Jordan, that sort of

0:22:11.510 --> 0:22:14.910
<v Speaker 3>player doesn't win anymore. You have to be so well-rounded

0:22:14.970 --> 0:22:17.560
<v Speaker 3>in your game, and.

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:18.620
<v Speaker 2>A lot of that is ball handling.

0:22:19.740 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Joel Embiid is the only guy on the list of

0:22:22.460 --> 0:22:27.300
<v Speaker 3>the last 10-plus years that isn't essentially a primary ball

0:22:27.340 --> 0:22:31.310
<v Speaker 3>handler that won the award. And so you have to

0:22:31.350 --> 0:22:36.540
<v Speaker 3>put up such ridiculous numbers... In order to overcome that,

0:22:37.020 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 3>if LaMelo Ball is going to be this ultimate facilitator

0:22:40.260 --> 0:22:42.680
<v Speaker 3>in this offense, which I assume that he'll be, I

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.220
<v Speaker 3>think the point totals will be there. You gave the

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.310
<v Speaker 3>30-point parameter. I don't think that will be much of

0:22:48.369 --> 0:22:51.230
<v Speaker 3>an issue. He averaged 28 last year. This is not

0:22:51.250 --> 0:22:53.610
<v Speaker 3>going to be a great defense, so his scoring could

0:22:54.010 --> 0:22:56.430
<v Speaker 3>potentially go up. All of those things are true. I

0:22:56.990 --> 0:23:00.629
<v Speaker 3>just don't think there's enough in the bag of Anthony Edwards.

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 3>He's a great scorer, but simply being a great scorer

0:23:04.310 --> 0:23:07.350
<v Speaker 3>In today's NBA, with all these guys that have like

0:23:07.350 --> 0:23:10.610
<v Speaker 3>17 tools in their tool belt, I just don't think

0:23:10.630 --> 0:23:11.260
<v Speaker 3>you can beat them.

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Anthony Edwards is a good bet. Okay.

0:23:18.180 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>So no ant for Brandon Kravitz. We're going to skip

0:23:22.540 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Kay Cunningham because we'll come back to him later. Jalen

0:23:26.420 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Brunson's 50 to 1.

0:23:30.020 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:23:30.900 --> 0:23:33.570
<v Speaker 1>Under no circumstances should you do this. I'm going to

0:23:33.590 --> 0:23:37.230
<v Speaker 1>be very adamant about this. Look, you can celebrate a

0:23:37.250 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>player for what he did and also understand that not

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>all the voters are idiots. Some of them absolutely are,

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 1>but not all of them. And every, every reasonable analyst,

0:23:50.510 --> 0:23:52.130
<v Speaker 1>and there's a number of them that vote for MVP

0:23:52.290 --> 0:23:55.050
<v Speaker 1>for MVP is going to be like, Jalen's incredible. He's

0:23:55.190 --> 0:23:58.460
<v Speaker 1>so good. Like he's so, so clutch. He is so

0:23:58.500 --> 0:24:00.900
<v Speaker 1>good at navigating to his spot. He's just a big-time

0:24:00.940 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>player that makes big-time shots and all the other cliches.

0:24:03.859 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>They also know that Jalen Brunson's impact simply isn't as

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>high as the other guys on this list. Jalen Brunson's

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.530
<v Speaker 1>very good. Jalen Brunson's awesome. Jalen Brunson's not winning MVP.

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.870
<v Speaker 1>There is no scenario I can find. If you think

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.490
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks are going to go off of winning the title,

0:24:19.690 --> 0:24:22.790
<v Speaker 1>come back, and win 60-plus games, which they have not

0:24:22.850 --> 0:24:25.690
<v Speaker 1>done in the Jalen Brunson era, If you think they're

0:24:25.710 --> 0:24:28.430
<v Speaker 1>going to win 60-plus games, be the one seed, beat

0:24:28.530 --> 0:24:30.830
<v Speaker 1>out all these other teams from the Atlantic Division in

0:24:30.890 --> 0:24:32.510
<v Speaker 1>a year in which we're going to see less tanking,

0:24:33.030 --> 0:24:36.380
<v Speaker 1>in a more competitive Eastern Conference, go for it. You

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>can do that, and you will make a killing by

0:24:38.580 --> 0:24:41.780
<v Speaker 1>betting Nick's one seed and betting Jalen MVP, and you

0:24:41.820 --> 0:24:44.420
<v Speaker 1>can bet all these kind of ways. There is no scenario.

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how many clutch buckets he makes. There

0:24:47.020 --> 0:24:49.810
<v Speaker 1>is no scenario under reasonable circumstances unless it is a

0:24:51.450 --> 0:24:56.110
<v Speaker 1>90th percentile outcome. for the Knicks and Jalen Brunson individually

0:24:56.230 --> 0:24:57.090
<v Speaker 1>that he wins MVP.

0:24:58.490 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:24:59.190 --> 0:25:01.980
<v Speaker 3>Um, it kind of goes, it's good. It's hard for

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.340
<v Speaker 3>me to make a case for Anthony Edwards. Like it's

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.420
<v Speaker 3>against Anthony Edwards and to make a case for Jalen Brunson,

0:25:09.660 --> 0:25:15.420
<v Speaker 3>the clutch stuff is the difference because he is among

0:25:15.460 --> 0:25:18.939
<v Speaker 3>the top two or three. It's SGA Brunson and Curry

0:25:18.980 --> 0:25:22.429
<v Speaker 3>of the guys that last couple seconds. Who do I

0:25:22.470 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 3>want to have the ball in their hand? And that

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 3>stuff matters. And he is coming off of a championship.

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.570
<v Speaker 3>He is the brightest star on that team. So if

0:25:32.609 --> 0:25:36.169
<v Speaker 3>they are able to repeat that with regular season success

0:25:37.010 --> 0:25:41.409
<v Speaker 3>and get to 60, I could see the difference is

0:25:41.470 --> 0:25:44.070
<v Speaker 3>the number. And this is where I don't think this

0:25:44.130 --> 0:25:46.970
<v Speaker 3>is a terrible bet. Anthony Edwards is 18 to one.

0:25:48.150 --> 0:25:51.590
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brunson's 50 to one. For a guy that is

0:25:51.850 --> 0:25:56.129
<v Speaker 3>the elite scorer and is the clutch player on a

0:25:56.170 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 3>team that could be the best, again, in the Eastern Conference,

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 3>we assume drop-off just because it's hard to sustain success.

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.900
<v Speaker 3>But this roster is still incredible. So I don't think

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 3>it's a terrible bet. Not that I think he's going

0:26:10.180 --> 0:26:12.940
<v Speaker 3>to win, but I do think that at some point,

0:26:12.980 --> 0:26:16.689
<v Speaker 3>if you're in the trading business, I think that further

0:26:16.730 --> 0:26:20.580
<v Speaker 3>down the road, I don't think I do think that

0:26:20.619 --> 0:26:22.980
<v Speaker 3>you could sell off of a 50 to one. Whereas

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.260
<v Speaker 3>with Ann Edwards, I'm not sure that you're ever going

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.180
<v Speaker 3>to get much better than where it's at right now.

0:26:28.810 --> 0:26:29.570
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Okay.

0:26:29.590 --> 0:26:31.270
<v Speaker 1>I think you probably could see LV on both, but

0:26:31.670 --> 0:26:33.830
<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate their desire to go ahead and eat

0:26:33.850 --> 0:26:41.810
<v Speaker 1>that good seal. Notably two things, two things on Brunson one,

0:26:41.869 --> 0:26:44.790
<v Speaker 1>he's 30. So he crosses the 30 list. So he

0:26:44.830 --> 0:26:47.990
<v Speaker 1>hits the age parameter. He has never had a 30

0:26:47.990 --> 0:26:51.449
<v Speaker 1>point season and he actually averaged 26 last season and

0:26:51.450 --> 0:26:56.150
<v Speaker 1>26 the year before. He averaged 6.8 assists last year,

0:26:56.230 --> 0:26:59.210
<v Speaker 1>which is like good. He's a good passer. He's a

0:26:59.310 --> 0:27:03.730
<v Speaker 1>good passing point guard. That's for his primary score. I

0:27:03.930 --> 0:27:05.750
<v Speaker 1>was like, I will admit to a bias here. I

0:27:05.790 --> 0:27:08.750
<v Speaker 1>just I lean towards to me. There are four guys

0:27:08.810 --> 0:27:10.830
<v Speaker 1>in a category and a tier by themselves when we

0:27:10.850 --> 0:27:13.729
<v Speaker 1>do the player ranks. And the tier is Anthony Edwards,

0:27:13.869 --> 0:27:18.090
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Maxey, and Donovan Mitchell. Donovan is the oldest,

0:27:18.290 --> 0:27:22.220
<v Speaker 1>and then is Jalen Brunson. They all have pluses and minuses.

0:27:22.380 --> 0:27:24.659
<v Speaker 1>Ant's the best defender of those. I think Tyrese is

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the best playmaker of those. I think Donovan Mitchell has

0:27:28.020 --> 0:27:31.139
<v Speaker 1>the most complete offensive game. Jalen Brunson is the most clutch.

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.420
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brunson is the one with the title, right? So...

0:27:34.950 --> 0:27:37.090
<v Speaker 1>I think there's pros and cons with all of those guys.

0:27:37.580 --> 0:27:38.730
<v Speaker 1>And I think you can make an argument for him,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but I will say like, I'm not, I don't, I,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.100
<v Speaker 1>of those, I think Ant has the most runway to

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.100
<v Speaker 1>win MVP just because of the addition of LaMelo. But

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm also not like, I, I have more qualms with

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.580
<v Speaker 1>Ant's game because of the standard that I'm holding to,

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>which is like, I know how good you can be.

0:27:53.500 --> 0:27:55.090
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to hold, like, this is always the

0:27:55.109 --> 0:27:57.570
<v Speaker 1>thing that people get crazy about me with. I hold superstars.

0:27:57.650 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Once you enter that thing where it's like, Oh my God,

0:27:59.980 --> 0:28:02.179
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Edwards might be the, like, I thought this when

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.139
<v Speaker 1>he beat the nuggets, I was like, Anthony Edwards might

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.239
<v Speaker 1>be the best player in the NBA. Okay. Once you're

0:28:07.260 --> 0:28:10.929
<v Speaker 1>in that conversation, I hold you to that bar. I'm

0:28:10.970 --> 0:28:13.090
<v Speaker 1>not just like, good job getting there. I'm like, okay,

0:28:13.690 --> 0:28:16.150
<v Speaker 1>so now you gotta be precise. Now you gotta be consistent.

0:28:16.790 --> 0:28:19.340
<v Speaker 1>Anthony never been precise and consistent. Jalen's very consistent. I'll

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>give him that. Jalen Brunson is very consistent. Um, I

0:28:23.020 --> 0:28:24.540
<v Speaker 1>don't want any of the Sixers, by the way, kind

0:28:24.619 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of transitioning because Tyrese Maxey is 80 to one behind

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.350
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brunson. I don't want Maxey. I don't know what

0:28:30.380 --> 0:28:32.250
<v Speaker 1>role he's going to have. I don't know if Jalen

0:28:32.510 --> 0:28:34.450
<v Speaker 1>Brown's going to lead the team in points and Maxey's

0:28:34.490 --> 0:28:36.690
<v Speaker 1>going to lead in assists. I don't know if LeBron's

0:28:36.710 --> 0:28:38.450
<v Speaker 1>going to lead the team in assists and Maxey's just

0:28:38.490 --> 0:28:40.010
<v Speaker 1>going to kind of be there. I don't know if

0:28:40.070 --> 0:28:41.990
<v Speaker 1>Maxey's going to lead in scoring and Joel takes a

0:28:42.010 --> 0:28:44.290
<v Speaker 1>step back. I don't know how this works out. They

0:28:44.330 --> 0:28:46.170
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of guys operate in the same space.

0:28:46.490 --> 0:28:48.700
<v Speaker 1>They're all really good. And I don't know how it's

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>going to work out. The most likely scenario is they

0:28:50.500 --> 0:28:52.260
<v Speaker 1>just kind of split it up and everybody's numbers go

0:28:52.300 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>down in volume, but they're all very efficient and they

0:28:55.100 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>love playing together and they win a bunch of games.

0:28:57.340 --> 0:28:59.060
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll probably struggle in the early part of

0:28:59.100 --> 0:29:00.860
<v Speaker 1>the season. I talked about, we're going to talk about

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.500
<v Speaker 1>that a little bit more on the, the, the teams

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.900
<v Speaker 1>of fade episode, but in general, I just can't find

0:29:06.940 --> 0:29:09.140
<v Speaker 1>any sort of angle where a Philadelphia 76 or wins

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.610
<v Speaker 1>MVP this season. Yeah.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.670
<v Speaker 3>They are really tough to handicap overall because it's so

0:29:13.690 --> 0:29:17.370
<v Speaker 3>many moving parts on that roster and, But I think

0:29:17.740 --> 0:29:20.850
<v Speaker 3>the most confident take that I could levy on the

0:29:21.070 --> 0:29:24.650
<v Speaker 3>76ers is that nobody on that team is going to

0:29:24.690 --> 0:29:29.210
<v Speaker 3>win NBA MVP. They may win the championship. They may

0:29:29.390 --> 0:29:33.870
<v Speaker 3>fall way short of expectation. All of these things are possible.

0:29:34.290 --> 0:29:36.490
<v Speaker 3>They might cover spreads left and right throughout the year.

0:29:36.850 --> 0:29:37.830
<v Speaker 3>They might be a.

0:29:39.410 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Money vacuum. I don't know. We'll figure that out in

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>real time, but no one on this team is winning MVP.

0:29:47.220 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.340
<v Speaker 1>Next up as we'll wrap up with like some of

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the other names here, just rapid fire before we get

0:29:54.580 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to our best bets. Tyrese Albert, and we're going to skip.

0:30:01.540 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell is a flat-out no for me. He missed

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>his window. I thought there was a couple of years,

0:30:06.940 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and I put bets in, and I gave out on

0:30:08.530 --> 0:30:10.730
<v Speaker 1>this program, and I think Donovan could have gotten there,

0:30:10.830 --> 0:30:12.610
<v Speaker 1>and it just never happened for him. Either the team

0:30:12.650 --> 0:30:14.710
<v Speaker 1>wasn't good enough, or he wasn't good enough, or the

0:30:14.770 --> 0:30:17.370
<v Speaker 1>injuries weren't good enough. It never quite got there. Donovan's

0:30:17.390 --> 0:30:20.050
<v Speaker 1>played at an All-NBA level for about eight years now.

0:30:20.390 --> 0:30:23.370
<v Speaker 1>He's incredible. Donovan Mitchell is awesome every single night. He

0:30:23.450 --> 0:30:27.130
<v Speaker 1>is a really great player, but his playoff, it's weird

0:30:27.150 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>because he made the Eastern Conference Finals. But he has

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>playoff failures combined with the age, combined with sharing usage

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.500
<v Speaker 1>with Harden now. There's no pathway for Donovan Mitchell. Jalen

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.350
<v Speaker 1>Brown falls into the same Sixers conversation that we talked about.

0:30:41.470 --> 0:30:45.110
<v Speaker 1>LaMelo Ball, there's no scenario he gets it over Anthony Edwards.

0:30:45.430 --> 0:30:48.110
<v Speaker 1>There's no way. He might take votes away from Anthony

0:30:48.170 --> 0:30:51.290
<v Speaker 1>Edwards where they split if the Wolves won 62 games.

0:30:51.690 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I could see that happening, but I don't think that

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.660
<v Speaker 1>either one of them wins that in that scenario. Devin Booker,

0:30:56.700 --> 0:30:58.100
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to see the shooting come back

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:02.330
<v Speaker 1>to form. Steph Curry, absolutely not under no circumstances. That

0:31:02.350 --> 0:31:05.170
<v Speaker 1>team is absolute. That team, I am terrified of how

0:31:05.210 --> 0:31:07.470
<v Speaker 1>bad that team may be, and he's ancient, and he's

0:31:07.490 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>probably going to not hit the game's limit. Kawhi Leonard,

0:31:10.260 --> 0:31:12.239
<v Speaker 1>come on. Come on.

0:31:12.260 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:31:16.450 --> 0:31:17.290
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant, too.

0:31:17.310 --> 0:31:19.690
<v Speaker 2>Look at how many of these guys are old.

0:31:19.710 --> 0:31:21.550
<v Speaker 3>I want to pause on Kawhi because when I was

0:31:21.590 --> 0:31:25.290
<v Speaker 3>starting to write down names that I would consider, just

0:31:25.350 --> 0:31:28.490
<v Speaker 3>names that I wouldn't completely, like LaMelo Ball.

0:31:28.580 --> 0:31:30.540
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to have a conversation about LaMelo Ball.

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:31.020
<v Speaker 2>He's not winning.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:37.420
<v Speaker 3>Kawhi Leonard, is he going to be the alpha, the

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.260
<v Speaker 3>unquestioned alpha on that team, or is he going to

0:31:41.300 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 3>take a step back and just kind of aid the

0:31:46.210 --> 0:31:49.890
<v Speaker 3>In their overall effectiveness, because if he's going to step

0:31:49.950 --> 0:31:53.270
<v Speaker 3>in and be the guy, I think he's worth a conversation.

0:31:53.770 --> 0:31:55.410
<v Speaker 2>He's already 35.

0:31:55.410 --> 0:31:57.420
<v Speaker 1>He's already said, this is Scotty's team.

0:31:58.180 --> 0:31:58.620
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:31:59.020 --> 0:32:01.780
<v Speaker 1>He's 35 years old. He's already said, this is Scotty's team.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Him staying healthy for two seasons is unlikely. And Oh yeah.

0:32:05.780 --> 0:32:09.990
<v Speaker 1>There's the risk of him going to jail. So.

0:32:11.750 --> 0:32:14.540
<v Speaker 2>Hard to win in jail. Clip that on StreamYard. Yeah,

0:32:14.620 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to win MVP.

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to cross the 65 game mark if you're

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.620
<v Speaker 1>in there for insider trading fraud. I guess it would

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.900
<v Speaker 1>be the way that it would get parsed by the

0:32:23.020 --> 0:32:25.940
<v Speaker 1>SEC or whoever. He's probably not going to jail.

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.380
<v Speaker 2>You breezed past one of the other names that I'm considering, too.

0:32:29.740 --> 0:32:34.810
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We'll get to your best bets. Is that one

0:32:34.830 --> 0:32:36.450
<v Speaker 1>of your best bets, or is it just another name

0:32:36.470 --> 0:32:37.610
<v Speaker 1>that you think isn't.

0:32:37.470 --> 0:32:39.510
<v Speaker 2>Worth talking about? Tyrese Halliburton.

0:32:40.170 --> 0:32:41.630
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about Halliburton.

0:32:42.690 --> 0:32:46.020
<v Speaker 3>So the Pacers dropped off dramatically without him, and some

0:32:46.060 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 3>of that was by design. But we're talking about a

0:32:49.580 --> 0:32:53.020
<v Speaker 3>narrative-based award. It would be very easy to make an

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.930
<v Speaker 3>MVP case if they just put it all back together,

0:32:57.550 --> 0:33:00.390
<v Speaker 3>if everything clicks right away. They're one of the top

0:33:00.510 --> 0:33:03.750
<v Speaker 3>three seeds in the Eastern Conference, which I don't think

0:33:03.810 --> 0:33:06.710
<v Speaker 3>is a wildly crazy thing to say.

0:33:06.730 --> 0:33:10.230
<v Speaker 2>It could happen. They have talent. I understand that they

0:33:10.340 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>suffered last year, but that.

0:33:12.580 --> 0:33:16.980
<v Speaker 3>Aids in the discussion. He is an impact player. He's clutch.

0:33:17.100 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>So we get to check that box. He's multifaceted scoring

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.700
<v Speaker 3>and assists. So he's going to have those big moments

0:33:23.740 --> 0:33:25.900
<v Speaker 3>that stick in our head. I do worry about the

0:33:25.900 --> 0:33:28.950
<v Speaker 3>65 game threshold, but again, let's go back to the price.

0:33:29.370 --> 0:33:33.150
<v Speaker 2>He's 150 to one. So if we're looking for long

0:33:33.210 --> 0:33:38.170
<v Speaker 2>shots among this list of names, uh, I can't make

0:33:38.210 --> 0:33:41.260
<v Speaker 2>it a compelling case for any of these other guys

0:33:41.860 --> 0:33:43.660
<v Speaker 2>in the same way that I can make a case

0:33:44.260 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>for Tyrese Halliburton.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.020
<v Speaker 1>So my problem is that I can get past the

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>injury stuff. I think it'd be a great narrative, right?

0:33:52.220 --> 0:33:54.500
<v Speaker 1>For those voters that partake in the narrative. And there

0:33:54.540 --> 0:33:56.510
<v Speaker 1>are voters that do, what was the story of the year?

0:33:57.670 --> 0:33:59.150
<v Speaker 1>And I think he is one of the most impactful

0:33:59.170 --> 0:34:00.850
<v Speaker 1>players in the game with his passing. I think he

0:34:00.890 --> 0:34:04.770
<v Speaker 1>genuinely makes everybody better. He's, I think Halliburton is legitimately

0:34:04.810 --> 0:34:07.370
<v Speaker 1>the second best offensive engine in the league behind Yoke.

0:34:07.690 --> 0:34:09.210
<v Speaker 1>That's how good I think he is. I think it's

0:34:09.250 --> 0:34:13.610
<v Speaker 1>like Yoke and then him and then maybe Cade as

0:34:13.650 --> 0:34:19.050
<v Speaker 1>far as engines go. The problem is that Halliburton isn't

0:34:19.070 --> 0:34:20.460
<v Speaker 1>going to put up the numbers that are going to

0:34:20.500 --> 0:34:22.779
<v Speaker 1>get him in this conversation. And you just have to

0:34:22.820 --> 0:34:23.940
<v Speaker 1>be able to put up the numbers. You have to

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.100
<v Speaker 1>put up 24-9 and Hallie just doesn't do it. Hallie's

0:34:27.140 --> 0:34:29.380
<v Speaker 1>just too much like, oh, they're going to double me? Oh,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I will just kick it to Nemhardt and he'll go

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.779
<v Speaker 1>work it. because a lot of times what happens is

0:34:33.820 --> 0:34:39.259
<v Speaker 1>Halliburton makes a decision with the ball. That is the

0:34:39.420 --> 0:34:42.540
<v Speaker 1>right basketball play that leads to a score that doesn't

0:34:42.580 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>generate an assist or a point for him. But if

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>you go back and you watch, you're like, Oh, all

0:34:47.300 --> 0:34:50.250
<v Speaker 1>of that was created because Halliburton saw it. He's just

0:34:50.270 --> 0:34:52.450
<v Speaker 1>got an incredible mind for how to control the game,

0:34:52.870 --> 0:34:55.010
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't always result in you getting the assist

0:34:55.030 --> 0:34:57.529
<v Speaker 1>because a hockey assists are part of that. But it's

0:34:57.570 --> 0:35:00.069
<v Speaker 1>also like, if he put, if they're shading over because

0:35:00.090 --> 0:35:02.149
<v Speaker 1>they're so worried about Halliburton, cause he's been torching somebody

0:35:02.170 --> 0:35:03.770
<v Speaker 1>and he's got 15 in that first half and they

0:35:03.790 --> 0:35:05.730
<v Speaker 1>start to shade over to bring more help to that

0:35:05.770 --> 0:35:08.910
<v Speaker 1>strong side. Halliburton is just going to space them harder.

0:35:08.930 --> 0:35:11.669
<v Speaker 1>Knees met to the other side, wait for them to wait,

0:35:11.690 --> 0:35:13.259
<v Speaker 1>to watch their feet, for them to move over a

0:35:13.260 --> 0:35:16.180
<v Speaker 1>little bit, kick it weak. That guy will ISO his

0:35:16.219 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>guy for two steps and then get the drive to

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>the basket. And they'll sometimes they get the, the, the

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.910
<v Speaker 1>assist and sometimes it doesn't. So, as much as I

0:35:23.950 --> 0:35:26.969
<v Speaker 1>think Halliburton is an MVP caliber player, I have a

0:35:27.030 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>hard time seeing him putting together the resume that gets

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.660
<v Speaker 1>him into this conversation. It's like, he would have to

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>score so many more points than he has. The Pacers

0:35:36.820 --> 0:35:39.100
<v Speaker 1>would have to immediately be right back to being as

0:35:39.140 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>good as they are. And I don't really, I just

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they're going to be this season. They

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.340
<v Speaker 1>could be, I think we've talked about them on the,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on the overs pod of being like, play the alts

0:35:48.140 --> 0:35:49.970
<v Speaker 1>on them. Cause if they're going to be good, they're

0:35:49.989 --> 0:35:51.290
<v Speaker 1>going to be great. And maybe this is a way

0:35:51.310 --> 0:35:53.500
<v Speaker 1>to bet that, But I just kind of feel like

0:35:54.060 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Halliburton will never have the kind of resume that will

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.940
<v Speaker 1>get him into the voters' minds of these are the

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>five best players in the league.

0:36:00.940 --> 0:36:03.860
<v Speaker 3>Well, then the resume has to come with team success

0:36:03.940 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 3>because that's where.

0:36:06.620 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Because he's that engine, if they're the... I said top

0:36:10.180 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 3>three seed. I mean, really, probably has to be the

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.540
<v Speaker 3>one seed in the Eastern Conference. But if they are,

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.259
<v Speaker 3>there's the resume. I just think that number is.

0:36:25.070 --> 0:36:27.210
<v Speaker 2>That's a juicy digit.

0:36:28.030 --> 0:36:30.270
<v Speaker 1>It's a good number. I'll give you that. I can't

0:36:30.310 --> 0:36:32.470
<v Speaker 1>deny that. But it also probably means we got runway

0:36:32.510 --> 0:36:35.629
<v Speaker 1>before it. Some of this is like, do you want

0:36:35.650 --> 0:36:37.450
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you have the best number at

0:36:37.570 --> 0:36:41.149
<v Speaker 1>all times? And Brandon Anderson is pretty militant about this.

0:36:41.190 --> 0:36:42.830
<v Speaker 1>He's just like, I only want it if I have

0:36:42.850 --> 0:36:45.650
<v Speaker 1>the best. And good for him. I am oftentimes like,

0:36:45.670 --> 0:36:48.330
<v Speaker 1>it's not as good as it was. It's still pretty good.

0:36:49.610 --> 0:36:51.990
<v Speaker 1>And that's how I wind up looking at it. Okay.

0:36:52.110 --> 0:36:53.730
<v Speaker 1>You have a long shot here that I think is

0:36:53.770 --> 0:36:55.950
<v Speaker 1>worth discussing, even though it breaks the rules. Give me

0:36:55.969 --> 0:36:57.049
<v Speaker 1>your long shot that here.

0:36:57.390 --> 0:36:57.750
<v Speaker 2>It does.

0:36:57.830 --> 0:37:01.230
<v Speaker 3>It does break the rules, but, um, we had a

0:37:01.250 --> 0:37:03.830
<v Speaker 3>guy last year breaking some rules too. So I'm going

0:37:03.850 --> 0:37:06.630
<v Speaker 3>to go back to the well on that Cooper flag

0:37:06.810 --> 0:37:09.589
<v Speaker 3>at the same number as Tyrese Halliburton, one 50 to one.

0:37:10.190 --> 0:37:13.570
<v Speaker 3>If we're looking at what young player could catapult his team,

0:37:14.090 --> 0:37:17.810
<v Speaker 3>take a massive leap Allah Wemby and the Spurs last year.

0:37:18.030 --> 0:37:22.170
<v Speaker 3>Remember the Spurs did not go into last year. as

0:37:22.250 --> 0:37:26.690
<v Speaker 3>this presumptive juggernaut in the Western conference, they were 60

0:37:26.690 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 3>to one to win the title. So what that tells

0:37:31.020 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 3>us is that when these leaps happen with these all time,

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 3>great talents, it happens pretty dramatically. And I think Cooper

0:37:39.700 --> 0:37:43.170
<v Speaker 3>flag has the best chance in the league among the

0:37:43.250 --> 0:37:46.430
<v Speaker 3>young players to be that guy. And the team should

0:37:46.450 --> 0:37:50.310
<v Speaker 3>be a lot better. Kyrie Irving's back and healthy flag average,

0:37:50.310 --> 0:37:54.460
<v Speaker 3>21 points. nearly seven rebounds, four and a half assists.

0:37:54.900 --> 0:37:58.529
<v Speaker 3>He gets it done on defense, steals, blocks. He's efficient

0:37:59.810 --> 0:38:05.910
<v Speaker 3>with his true shooting, just a hair south of 55%.

0:38:05.910 --> 0:38:10.700
<v Speaker 3>The rookies in NBA history to average 18, six, and

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:18.940
<v Speaker 3>four on 55% true shooting, Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson,

0:38:19.460 --> 0:38:20.100
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jordan.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 2>So that's a pretty good list.

0:38:22.980 --> 0:38:26.580
<v Speaker 3>If he takes a big step forward and Dallas is good,

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 3>he's going to be in the conversation. So you're asking

0:38:31.420 --> 0:38:34.620
<v Speaker 3>for a lot, but I think if you're targeting any

0:38:34.700 --> 0:38:38.890
<v Speaker 3>young player that could make a monumental leap, it's hard

0:38:38.950 --> 0:38:41.590
<v Speaker 3>to do that when you're several years into the league.

0:38:42.230 --> 0:38:43.649
<v Speaker 3>I think Cooper Flagg is that guy.

0:38:46.290 --> 0:38:48.589
<v Speaker 1>College coach coming in, so we've got no history with

0:38:48.630 --> 0:38:50.529
<v Speaker 1>Dusty May to be able to analyze what those teams

0:38:50.550 --> 0:38:52.630
<v Speaker 1>are going to look like. I've got the under on

0:38:52.650 --> 0:38:55.170
<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks. I don't think they're going to be good.

0:38:55.250 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to be in the 20s for wins.

0:38:59.460 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>What is the absolute apex, 95th percentile outcome that you

0:39:03.700 --> 0:39:06.340
<v Speaker 1>can see for the Dallas Mavericks in wins this year? 48.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:16.340
<v Speaker 2>Oof, God, that's a lot. 48 wins.

0:39:16.700 --> 0:39:18.330
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of that gets them high enough.

0:39:19.410 --> 0:39:21.810
<v Speaker 3>I think they're good basketball. I'm on the other side.

0:39:21.830 --> 0:39:23.859
<v Speaker 3>I bet the over 33 and a half.

0:39:24.340 --> 0:39:29.610
<v Speaker 1>If the Spurs fall off because of like Wemby fatigue and.

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.580
<v Speaker 1>all those guys and shea can't win because of the

0:39:33.660 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>three the three in a row and the nuggets are

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:41.350
<v Speaker 1>worse and the wolves are worse and the lakers are

0:39:41.410 --> 0:39:44.470
<v Speaker 1>worse see this is the thing is like If Cooper

0:39:44.510 --> 0:39:47.310
<v Speaker 1>has the season you're describing, but he, but he like

0:39:47.330 --> 0:39:50.410
<v Speaker 1>say they win 48 and the Lakers win 48, who wins?

0:39:54.170 --> 0:39:56.310
<v Speaker 3>I think in order for this to get home, you

0:39:56.610 --> 0:39:58.370
<v Speaker 3>need some guys to not qualify.

0:39:58.410 --> 0:39:58.609
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:58.890 --> 0:40:01.310
<v Speaker 1>You need a lot of guys to not qualify.

0:40:01.530 --> 0:40:04.130
<v Speaker 3>You need some guys that don't qualify because the Mavericks

0:40:04.150 --> 0:40:05.810
<v Speaker 3>aren't going to be the top seed. And that is

0:40:05.870 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 3>where the MVP is going. But again, I'll go back

0:40:08.700 --> 0:40:12.100
<v Speaker 3>to last year. Wemby almost won the award. They should

0:40:12.140 --> 0:40:14.460
<v Speaker 3>not have even, they shouldn't have even been in this

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.620
<v Speaker 3>discussion last year at this exact same time. You and

0:40:18.660 --> 0:40:21.819
<v Speaker 3>me were having this discussion about San Antonio. And I said,

0:40:21.860 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 3>we got to consider them for the title. And you're like,

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.220
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't happen. And they were in the championship.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 1>So, but they didn't win. 201. You stubborn bastard.

0:40:32.180 --> 0:40:34.430
<v Speaker 2>On 201 on Cooper.

0:40:34.450 --> 0:40:36.610
<v Speaker 1>You know what the 201 on Cooper flag bet is?

0:40:39.300 --> 0:40:41.700
<v Speaker 1>The 201 on the Cooper flag is that the Russian

0:40:41.739 --> 0:40:45.259
<v Speaker 1>bubonic plague takes out half of the NBA, and that

0:40:45.420 --> 0:40:48.020
<v Speaker 1>gets us home with all of the players getting the

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>bubonic plague.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.700
<v Speaker 2>I've got it. There you go.

0:40:51.900 --> 0:40:55.300
<v Speaker 1>There you go. I'll be honest with you. I don't

0:40:55.380 --> 0:40:57.540
<v Speaker 1>have a long shot. There's just not a lot of

0:40:57.580 --> 0:41:01.580
<v Speaker 1>names on the board this year, honestly. This is in

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.540
<v Speaker 1>the market in general. There are not a lot of

0:41:03.580 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>good long shot bets. we don't have a lot of

0:41:06.180 --> 0:41:08.420
<v Speaker 1>star players that maybe there will be one that kind

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.020
<v Speaker 1>of asserts themselves, whatever the surprise team is. I'm trying

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.660
<v Speaker 1>to think like, could the blazers shock everybody and be

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>on pace for 54. And then all of a sudden

0:41:17.900 --> 0:41:22.109
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Denny Avdia or John Moran. And that's

0:41:22.130 --> 0:41:26.410
<v Speaker 1>really hard to like buy into. If the jazz are

0:41:26.450 --> 0:41:29.030
<v Speaker 1>as good as Jim Turvey thinks, if they're like absolutely

0:41:29.090 --> 0:41:31.390
<v Speaker 1>killing it, who's the best player on the jazz. It's not,

0:41:31.860 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Like Lori marketing can't, I like, I love Lori marketing

0:41:34.460 --> 0:41:36.819
<v Speaker 1>can't win MVP. It can't be Keontae George. It can't

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.630
<v Speaker 1>be Jaron Jackson Jr. It can't be rookie Darren Peterson.

0:41:40.050 --> 0:41:44.370
<v Speaker 1>So that doesn't make sense. It's tough. Like this market is,

0:41:44.410 --> 0:41:46.310
<v Speaker 1>I think is really tough, which is why I only have,

0:41:46.790 --> 0:41:48.630
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to, I'm going to add Luka Doncic to

0:41:48.650 --> 0:41:50.529
<v Speaker 1>my portfolio. You'll see that in the action network app.

0:41:50.730 --> 0:41:51.930
<v Speaker 1>Like I just, the more I look at this, I'm

0:41:51.950 --> 0:41:54.940
<v Speaker 1>just like, man, you know, I'm down. Like I'm going

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to have a bet on the Lakers under and Luka MVP.

0:41:57.460 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Cause I think there's only two outcomes here and that

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:00.980
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be pretty satisfied with those two outcomes.

0:42:02.820 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Johnson, I think is another name that you want

0:42:04.500 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to mention. And people are probably asking like, Matt, you

0:42:06.219 --> 0:42:11.219
<v Speaker 1>love the Raptors. What about Barnes? Barnes and Kawhi, if

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:12.690
<v Speaker 1>the Raptors were as good as I think they are,

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.670
<v Speaker 1>if they win 55, it's going to be like, oh,

0:42:15.750 --> 0:42:17.950
<v Speaker 1>but Kawhi Leonard didn't qualify and he was the best

0:42:17.969 --> 0:42:19.969
<v Speaker 1>player on the team. Even if Barnes was better, he

0:42:20.610 --> 0:42:22.790
<v Speaker 1>won't be able to get enough bump. He just won't.

0:42:23.350 --> 0:42:25.290
<v Speaker 1>Even with Scottie being a former all-star, there won't be

0:42:25.330 --> 0:42:27.950
<v Speaker 1>enough bump. It will always be like, yeah, but like Kawhi.

0:42:28.110 --> 0:42:32.370
<v Speaker 1>And if Kawhi If the Raptors win 55 and Kawhi

0:42:32.390 --> 0:42:35.170
<v Speaker 1>plays 65 games, I still feel like they're going to

0:42:35.190 --> 0:42:37.049
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, but Scottie Barnes is really good. And

0:42:37.230 --> 0:42:38.790
<v Speaker 1>it's just very difficult for Kawhi, I think, to hit

0:42:38.810 --> 0:42:41.509
<v Speaker 1>the marker. So I don't have a long shot. I

0:42:41.530 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>just don't have one on this list. There's ways that

0:42:43.820 --> 0:42:45.860
<v Speaker 1>I could talk myself into anybody. I think if you

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:47.339
<v Speaker 1>listen to the show for long enough, you can figure

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that out. But most of these guys are too old

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:52.660
<v Speaker 1>or their teams are too bad. And I can't get

0:42:52.700 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>there on any of them. But I do have a

0:42:54.420 --> 0:42:57.060
<v Speaker 1>best bet. And we will talk about that. presented by

0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>DraftKings Sportsbook. These are our best bets for NBA MVP 2026-27. BK,

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.100
<v Speaker 1>I will give you the floor to give what I

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.580
<v Speaker 1>think is an inspired choice, honestly, for the MVP.

0:43:08.260 --> 0:43:12.700
<v Speaker 3>Jason Tatum, 20-1, has a chance to do what Jalen

0:43:12.739 --> 0:43:14.339
<v Speaker 3>Brown wasn't.

0:43:14.100 --> 0:43:15.899
<v Speaker 2>Able to fully accomplish last year.

0:43:16.940 --> 0:43:21.009
<v Speaker 3>But Jalen Brown did accomplish something, which is succeed at

0:43:21.050 --> 0:43:23.650
<v Speaker 3>a high level without the other one around.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I will say this again.

0:43:25.780 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 3>It is a narrative award, and sometimes the narrative is

0:43:29.900 --> 0:43:32.990
<v Speaker 3>pretty crystal clear. If the Celtics are the best team

0:43:33.010 --> 0:43:35.350
<v Speaker 3>in the East, which they have every opportunity to be,

0:43:36.030 --> 0:43:39.529
<v Speaker 3>and Jason Tatum's numbers get a boost because he's not

0:43:39.550 --> 0:43:42.350
<v Speaker 3>sharing the ball with Jalen Brown, he's going to get

0:43:42.390 --> 0:43:44.670
<v Speaker 3>more credit than Jalen Brown got. And a lot of

0:43:44.710 --> 0:43:50.140
<v Speaker 3>that comes down to efficiency and advanced stats. The advanced metrics,

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.029
<v Speaker 3>if you've listened to any NBA commentary over the last year,

0:43:54.070 --> 0:43:59.430
<v Speaker 3>you would know they don't exactly like Jalen Brown. Jason

0:43:59.790 --> 0:44:03.850
<v Speaker 3>Tatum is a better player than Jalen Brown. That is

0:44:03.930 --> 0:44:09.190
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily opinion. It is fact. Jalen Brown turns the

0:44:09.230 --> 0:44:12.430
<v Speaker 3>ball over a lot. He doesn't have great vision. The

0:44:12.489 --> 0:44:17.530
<v Speaker 3>advanced stats aren't there. Jason Tatum plus 4.4 EPM. Jalen

0:44:17.550 --> 0:44:22.489
<v Speaker 3>Brown was plus 1.3. The Celtics were actually better when

0:44:22.550 --> 0:44:24.790
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brown was off the court. That will not be

0:44:24.810 --> 0:44:27.770
<v Speaker 3>the case with Jason Tatum this year. I think Tatum

0:44:27.790 --> 0:44:32.150
<v Speaker 3>has an opportunity to really assert himself as one of

0:44:32.370 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 3>the top-tier elite stars from a statistical perspective. We already

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.700
<v Speaker 3>view him that way from the lens of what a

0:44:39.780 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 3>star is, but statistically, I think he has a chance

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 3>to get there, and that 20-to-1 bet.

0:44:46.830 --> 0:44:47.730
<v Speaker 2>Staring me in the face.

0:44:48.710 --> 0:44:51.530
<v Speaker 1>No one tell Brandon Anderson that this happened. He will

0:44:51.590 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>absolutely rage. He already lost a dinner bet to me

0:44:54.739 --> 0:44:57.580
<v Speaker 1>that I said that Jason Tatum would make an MVP

0:44:57.620 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>ballot for what Victor Wamenyama did. We also have one

0:45:02.580 --> 0:45:04.460
<v Speaker 1>for Victor will win one before Jason Tatum, so I

0:45:04.500 --> 0:45:06.339
<v Speaker 1>definitely want this one because it does look like he's

0:45:06.380 --> 0:45:11.700
<v Speaker 1>closer on that one. I may add this one. He

0:45:11.739 --> 0:45:16.900
<v Speaker 1>fits the age profile. He fits... The opportunity, if I

0:45:16.940 --> 0:45:18.500
<v Speaker 1>think the Celtics are going to be good and I

0:45:18.540 --> 0:45:22.339
<v Speaker 1>have them winning 55 to 58 games, if I think

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.070
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be that good, I have an obligation,

0:45:24.090 --> 0:45:27.330
<v Speaker 1>I think, to play Tatum. I do think that Tatum

0:45:27.810 --> 0:45:29.730
<v Speaker 1>purposely took a step back in 24 to help the

0:45:29.750 --> 0:45:33.530
<v Speaker 1>team win the title. I think in 25, he was

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.700
<v Speaker 1>really great, but there was starting to be some tension

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.720
<v Speaker 1>with that team and they were over-indexed on the threes.

0:45:38.620 --> 0:45:41.380
<v Speaker 1>Obviously lost last year to the Achilles. And now he

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>has a lot to prove. We have seen better outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>from guys coming back from the Achilles than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a phenomenal story. He does have games

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<v Speaker 1>under his belt, so he's not coming in fresh like Halliburton.

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<v Speaker 1>He has played in NBA games. At 18-1 at DraftKings Sportsbook,

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<v Speaker 1>I do like Jason Tatum as well. But my best

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<v Speaker 1>bet is going to be Cade Cunningham at 22-1. So Cade,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because basically last year, the Pistons kept winning

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<v Speaker 1>and killed everyone in 160 games, and the Pistons never

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<v Speaker 1>got credit in the market. And you go like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>look what happened. And it's like, yeah, they made it

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<v Speaker 1>to the second round, and they faced a veteran team

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<v Speaker 1>that beat them in seven games. When I specifically look

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<v Speaker 1>at the roster that Detroit put around him, John Collins

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<v Speaker 1>may not be as good of an on-ball player as

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias Harris is. He's not. Tobias is really good on-ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tobias is a sneaky good rebounder. But Collins is

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<v Speaker 1>a better defender, and Collins is a better corner three-point

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<v Speaker 1>shooter and spacer. He knows how to space around iso

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<v Speaker 1>engines like Cade. He did it in Atlanta with Trey Young,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where he started to make his name. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to do this. I think John Collins is

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<v Speaker 1>about the right things. They added Isaiah Joe to the bench,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have a shooter coming off of the bench now.

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<v Speaker 1>You can deploy a lineup with Cade Cunningham, Duncan Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>and Isaiah Joe. You can attack that roster defensively, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're still going to have to deal with Jalen Duren

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<v Speaker 1>and Asar Thompson and Paul Reed and Ron Holland. Ron Holland,

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>by the way, who had seven stocks in his preseason

0:47:18.739 --> 0:47:22.260
<v Speaker 1>first game yesterday. Ron Holland's a monster that nobody realizes

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody focuses on Asar. I think this Pistons team

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<v Speaker 1>is still going to win upwards of 55 plus games.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this Pistons team is still going to be excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll be better balanced. And you know what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if they're better balanced? Cade Cunningham racks up assists.

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<v Speaker 1>And he does get closer to those kinds of numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to shock me. If Kate comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and averages 28, eight and six, those are really good numbers. 28,

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight. Like he can put those numbers in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he can get there. I think his passing

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<v Speaker 1>and his rebounding with his athleticism is good. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a better defender than anybody else that we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>with the possible exception of Tatum. But even Tatum is,

0:47:58.650 --> 0:48:02.710
<v Speaker 1>has taken a dip because of injuries in minutes. He, well, Victor,

0:48:02.790 --> 0:48:06.210
<v Speaker 1>Victor's a better defender, but like, He is a great

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter defender. Cade Cunningham. I buy the Pistons. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I buy Cade Cunningham. My best bet for MVP is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Cade Cunningham, 22 to one at DraftKings Sportsbook.

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<v Speaker 1>The crown is yours. All right. That's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for buckets on the MVP. I appreciate Brandon Kravitz

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<v Speaker 1>joining me through the sickness. Appreciate you guys being with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have more content for you coming up. Later in

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<v Speaker 1>the week, we've got awards on all the other awards.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about that with Jim Turvey. We've got teams

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to fade. All sorts of stuff coming

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<v Speaker 1>for you down the pipeline. We're doing a draft next week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be great. Lots of great stuff coming

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Preseason action continues to roll on. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>did four podcasts at once, I think, tonight. Thanks to him.

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