1 00:00:06,026 --> 00:00:09,506 Speaker 1: NFL Explained is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:09,706 --> 00:00:17,626 Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. All Right, I'd started off the 3 00:00:17,666 --> 00:00:19,946 Speaker 1: episode by saying, hey, beautiful people, and do my best 4 00:00:20,026 --> 00:00:24,226 Speaker 1: Michael Robinson impersonation. But there was a huge, huge, epic 5 00:00:24,306 --> 00:00:26,986 Speaker 1: mistake that I made in last week's episode, so I 6 00:00:26,986 --> 00:00:29,386 Speaker 1: thought this week I would rectify it right off the top. 7 00:00:29,426 --> 00:00:33,026 Speaker 1: Are you cool with that? I'm my camp, He's Michael Robinson. 8 00:00:33,306 --> 00:00:36,026 Speaker 1: This is NFL Explained. You know, last week I didn't 9 00:00:36,026 --> 00:00:40,986 Speaker 1: even introduce us. People are tuning into NFL Explained podcast 10 00:00:40,986 --> 00:00:43,546 Speaker 1: when they were on their phone and they actually clicked 11 00:00:44,026 --> 00:00:46,546 Speaker 1: the actual link. Come on, man, they knew what they 12 00:00:46,546 --> 00:00:48,026 Speaker 1: were getting. Yeah, no, no no, it's a good point. It's 13 00:00:48,026 --> 00:00:50,426 Speaker 1: a good point. But I'd like to think I'm a professional. 14 00:00:50,466 --> 00:00:52,426 Speaker 1: Although if you've been listening to this episode, that might 15 00:00:52,426 --> 00:00:55,626 Speaker 1: be up for debate. This episode, in particular, comes from 16 00:00:55,666 --> 00:00:59,506 Speaker 1: something that you said on a previous episode. Sometimes you 17 00:00:59,506 --> 00:01:01,706 Speaker 1: say stuff and it just, you know, it just resonates 18 00:01:01,706 --> 00:01:04,146 Speaker 1: and we started dreaming about it. And you gotta remind 19 00:01:04,186 --> 00:01:08,066 Speaker 1: me though, because sometimes I forget it. Like you did 20 00:01:08,106 --> 00:01:11,066 Speaker 1: say something about like the moon and the some solar 21 00:01:11,106 --> 00:01:13,786 Speaker 1: system reference had has nothing to do I want to 22 00:01:13,786 --> 00:01:15,946 Speaker 1: get into it if no, no, no, I'm not going 23 00:01:15,986 --> 00:01:18,386 Speaker 1: down that path. The path that we're going to go 24 00:01:18,466 --> 00:01:22,386 Speaker 1: down is this idea that Tom Brady is not the goat. Okay, 25 00:01:22,426 --> 00:01:26,626 Speaker 1: pause sort of kind of you said, I'm twisting it. 26 00:01:27,186 --> 00:01:30,066 Speaker 1: I'm definitely twisting it. This entire episode, really though, is 27 00:01:30,066 --> 00:01:32,586 Speaker 1: about the quarterback and the greatest of all time, and 28 00:01:32,866 --> 00:01:36,546 Speaker 1: we're gonna lay things out for everyone, talk about some statistics, 29 00:01:36,586 --> 00:01:38,546 Speaker 1: some of the things that you saw playing against some 30 00:01:38,626 --> 00:01:41,626 Speaker 1: of these guys, playing with some of these players as well. 31 00:01:41,746 --> 00:01:43,906 Speaker 1: But in all sincerity, I think a lot of people 32 00:01:43,946 --> 00:01:45,586 Speaker 1: say Tom Brady is the goat. You think about all 33 00:01:45,586 --> 00:01:47,706 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls and we'll get to dB twelve here 34 00:01:47,746 --> 00:01:51,946 Speaker 1: in just a minute. You had a different designation forum 35 00:01:52,306 --> 00:01:54,986 Speaker 1: it's goat, but it's the greatest of all time, not 36 00:01:55,026 --> 00:01:58,746 Speaker 1: necessarily quarterback. You thought winner, winner, I mean, you just 37 00:01:58,786 --> 00:02:02,346 Speaker 1: think about it. With seven super Bowls, I mean, I 38 00:02:02,346 --> 00:02:04,386 Speaker 1: don't think if you think anybody's going to ever get 39 00:02:04,426 --> 00:02:06,626 Speaker 1: close to that, that's a lot. And when you talk 40 00:02:06,666 --> 00:02:09,066 Speaker 1: about the greatest of all time with a certain position, 41 00:02:09,146 --> 00:02:12,666 Speaker 1: that's a more individual thing. Those Super Bowls as a 42 00:02:12,706 --> 00:02:14,786 Speaker 1: team thing, and it has a lot of different factors 43 00:02:14,786 --> 00:02:16,106 Speaker 1: to us, so I can't wait to get into it. 44 00:02:16,146 --> 00:02:18,386 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about Brady coming up in this episode, 45 00:02:18,746 --> 00:02:20,346 Speaker 1: but we're knocking on the door. We got run in 46 00:02:20,346 --> 00:02:22,346 Speaker 1: the postseason, we got the super Bowl around the corner. 47 00:02:23,186 --> 00:02:25,466 Speaker 1: That's the money making time, right, and like that's the 48 00:02:25,546 --> 00:02:29,626 Speaker 1: biggest stage on the planet everyone's watching. Is there a 49 00:02:29,626 --> 00:02:33,106 Speaker 1: player that comes to mind that really cemented their their 50 00:02:33,226 --> 00:02:35,186 Speaker 1: legacy as a player because of what they did in 51 00:02:35,226 --> 00:02:38,346 Speaker 1: that game. I would have to say Eli Manning. I mean, 52 00:02:38,466 --> 00:02:41,506 Speaker 1: think about it. I mean, if you take the super 53 00:02:41,506 --> 00:02:44,746 Speaker 1: Bowl runs, the Playoffs runs away from his career, I'm 54 00:02:44,786 --> 00:02:46,946 Speaker 1: not so sure we're thinking about Eli Manning as a 55 00:02:46,986 --> 00:02:49,346 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I would even throw my guy beast 56 00:02:49,386 --> 00:02:53,066 Speaker 1: Mode in there. I mean during the Playoffs, he had 57 00:02:53,146 --> 00:02:55,506 Speaker 1: Beast Quake. I mean I was in on that play. 58 00:02:55,546 --> 00:02:58,786 Speaker 1: It was seventy power. We blocked it terribly, and to me, 59 00:02:58,826 --> 00:03:01,226 Speaker 1: it was one of the greatest runs of all time, 60 00:03:01,626 --> 00:03:05,026 Speaker 1: regardless Playoffs or whatever. Um. But I would say Beast Mode. 61 00:03:05,026 --> 00:03:07,466 Speaker 1: And obviously you got guys like to Roll Davis, but yeah, 62 00:03:07,506 --> 00:03:09,746 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Beam those guys that stick out from me. 63 00:03:09,866 --> 00:03:11,386 Speaker 1: The Manning one is a good one. By the way, 64 00:03:11,426 --> 00:03:13,746 Speaker 1: I know we keep throwing out that term goat. Are 65 00:03:13,746 --> 00:03:15,866 Speaker 1: you cool with that? Should? I like, is there cool 66 00:03:15,906 --> 00:03:20,466 Speaker 1: with it? I mean, look, so I asked my son, okay, 67 00:03:20,586 --> 00:03:23,106 Speaker 1: is there any other terms or whatever? He didn't text 68 00:03:23,106 --> 00:03:25,546 Speaker 1: back yet he was in school, so I'm still waiting. 69 00:03:26,106 --> 00:03:30,466 Speaker 1: Uh that was a test text. While look, I'm always 70 00:03:30,626 --> 00:03:33,106 Speaker 1: I'm always tested him. Like I'll send him a message 71 00:03:33,146 --> 00:03:35,506 Speaker 1: on Instagram or something like after he's not supposed to 72 00:03:35,586 --> 00:03:37,786 Speaker 1: have the phone, and if he responds, I'm like, what 73 00:03:37,906 --> 00:03:40,306 Speaker 1: did you respond for? He's like, but Dad, you sent 74 00:03:40,386 --> 00:03:43,466 Speaker 1: the message ahead to respond to day. Because if you 75 00:03:43,506 --> 00:03:44,906 Speaker 1: send a message in the middle of the day when 76 00:03:44,906 --> 00:03:46,826 Speaker 1: he's not supposed to have the phone and it says hey, 77 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:48,626 Speaker 1: I love you and he says I love you, You're 78 00:03:48,666 --> 00:03:51,786 Speaker 1: not gonna get mad. It's alright, cool. We'll break the 79 00:03:51,866 --> 00:03:55,546 Speaker 1: rule that one is okay to go with um. I 80 00:03:55,586 --> 00:03:58,186 Speaker 1: mentioned this before. I think the way to do this 81 00:03:58,466 --> 00:04:01,066 Speaker 1: is to not just say, hey, do the greatest of 82 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:03,746 Speaker 1: all time without giving you real analysis. So what we'll 83 00:04:03,826 --> 00:04:06,746 Speaker 1: do here is go through the backs in the Super 84 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:10,146 Speaker 1: Bowl era, specifically, because if we said all quarterbacks and 85 00:04:10,186 --> 00:04:13,186 Speaker 1: we're going to try our best to do decades, like 86 00:04:13,226 --> 00:04:16,266 Speaker 1: the generational aspect of the game has changed. There's been 87 00:04:16,306 --> 00:04:19,746 Speaker 1: an evolution. In fact, we've done numerous podcasts about the 88 00:04:19,746 --> 00:04:22,786 Speaker 1: evolution of specific aspects of the game. If you've missed 89 00:04:22,826 --> 00:04:25,906 Speaker 1: any of those episodes, highly encourage you to go back. 90 00:04:26,186 --> 00:04:30,546 Speaker 1: But I do think about football as a team sport 91 00:04:30,666 --> 00:04:34,346 Speaker 1: and then to win. And yet you throughout Eli Manning 92 00:04:34,586 --> 00:04:36,466 Speaker 1: as an example of a guy that made his legacy 93 00:04:36,506 --> 00:04:39,746 Speaker 1: in that game. Do we put too much on a 94 00:04:39,826 --> 00:04:43,386 Speaker 1: championship when evaluating the greatest of all time? I mean, again, 95 00:04:43,546 --> 00:04:47,266 Speaker 1: yams Uh, you're talking to a former role player. I 96 00:04:47,346 --> 00:04:50,026 Speaker 1: played quarterback at times in my life when in the 97 00:04:50,106 --> 00:04:52,466 Speaker 1: National Football League, I was a role player, special team 98 00:04:52,506 --> 00:04:55,986 Speaker 1: or fullback, backup tailback at times, backup receiver, all of 99 00:04:56,106 --> 00:05:01,386 Speaker 1: those things. So absolutely, getting Super Bowls means everything, right, 100 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:03,826 Speaker 1: because if you win that Super Bowl, everybody makes more money, 101 00:05:04,026 --> 00:05:07,146 Speaker 1: everybody becomes more valuable, every you know, everybody, even the 102 00:05:07,146 --> 00:05:11,026 Speaker 1: front office guys. Everything changes. So yeah, I'm not gonna 103 00:05:11,026 --> 00:05:13,306 Speaker 1: say we put too much weight on it. No we don't. 104 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:15,146 Speaker 1: I think we put the right amount of weight on it, 105 00:05:15,146 --> 00:05:17,266 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, that's why we 106 00:05:17,306 --> 00:05:20,346 Speaker 1: play this game. We played this game that win championships, 107 00:05:20,666 --> 00:05:23,826 Speaker 1: not just to get the goat label. It's tough because 108 00:05:23,826 --> 00:05:26,866 Speaker 1: I think it applies across the board in every sport. 109 00:05:26,986 --> 00:05:29,506 Speaker 1: There's enough players that played and you and I are 110 00:05:29,586 --> 00:05:31,866 Speaker 1: roughly the same age. You know, in the nineties in 111 00:05:31,906 --> 00:05:35,586 Speaker 1: the NBA there was Jordan's and you know what, Jordan's 112 00:05:35,626 --> 00:05:37,586 Speaker 1: kind of messed it up for a lot of players 113 00:05:37,586 --> 00:05:39,346 Speaker 1: because how many times do we go through a list 114 00:05:39,386 --> 00:05:41,306 Speaker 1: of guys and go they don't have a chip, you 115 00:05:41,346 --> 00:05:44,066 Speaker 1: know what? And it's like, dude, that guy was amazing, 116 00:05:44,186 --> 00:05:47,266 Speaker 1: and yet you didn't win the ultimate goal. I mean 117 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:49,146 Speaker 1: to me, that has to be considered. And when you're 118 00:05:49,186 --> 00:05:52,106 Speaker 1: going up against the real goat, who's MJ Like, that's 119 00:05:52,146 --> 00:05:54,146 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a problem here, all right. 120 00:05:54,146 --> 00:05:56,226 Speaker 1: I want to give some historical context on some of 121 00:05:56,226 --> 00:06:00,066 Speaker 1: the numbers, and once again Super Bowl era, So right 122 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:03,586 Speaker 1: around nineteen seventy is where we're gonna mark this sucker here. 123 00:06:04,466 --> 00:06:06,346 Speaker 1: What we're gonna do here is look at an average 124 00:06:06,426 --> 00:06:09,506 Speaker 1: number of passing yards per game by quarterbacks since nineteen 125 00:06:09,586 --> 00:06:14,266 Speaker 1: seventy five year increments, So from nineteen seventy to twenty twenty, 126 00:06:14,266 --> 00:06:17,386 Speaker 1: the number of yards per game has increased by eighty four, 127 00:06:17,626 --> 00:06:20,946 Speaker 1: which does speak to the evolution of quarterback play, wide receivers, 128 00:06:20,946 --> 00:06:23,946 Speaker 1: the whole thing. We did those specific episodes once again 129 00:06:24,026 --> 00:06:27,626 Speaker 1: here uh real briefly, nineteen seventy hundred sixty one point 130 00:06:27,666 --> 00:06:31,066 Speaker 1: four passing yards seventy five a notch up to one 131 00:06:31,106 --> 00:06:33,626 Speaker 1: sixty two point eight, nineteen eighty a big spite, a 132 00:06:33,706 --> 00:06:37,066 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six, then two oh four. Eventually you 133 00:06:37,106 --> 00:06:39,306 Speaker 1: get to the point in twenty twenty where you're talking 134 00:06:39,346 --> 00:06:42,386 Speaker 1: about two hundred and forty five passing yards per games, 135 00:06:42,386 --> 00:06:46,146 Speaker 1: So some rough numbers to analyze there. We saw that 136 00:06:46,266 --> 00:06:48,306 Speaker 1: number hit over two hundred, by the way in the 137 00:06:48,346 --> 00:06:51,386 Speaker 1: early eighties, and then boosted by a quarterback who put 138 00:06:51,466 --> 00:06:53,866 Speaker 1: up numbers that really no one has ever seen. In fact, 139 00:06:53,946 --> 00:06:56,746 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, he was my favorite quarterback 140 00:06:56,826 --> 00:06:58,466 Speaker 1: and I wasn't even a Dolphins fan. I was just 141 00:06:58,506 --> 00:07:02,346 Speaker 1: a fan of Dan Marino. N. Eighty four, the dude 142 00:07:02,386 --> 00:07:06,426 Speaker 1: through for five thousand yards, a number no one would reach. 143 00:07:06,466 --> 00:07:08,906 Speaker 1: This is when you know you're legit until Drew Brees 144 00:07:08,946 --> 00:07:12,306 Speaker 1: did it twenty four years later. Like to me, that's 145 00:07:12,386 --> 00:07:14,306 Speaker 1: it's not a record that happened two years later. It 146 00:07:14,346 --> 00:07:17,106 Speaker 1: got broken. No, no no, no, took twenty four years, almost 147 00:07:17,146 --> 00:07:20,626 Speaker 1: three decades for that number to be hit. Now, Marino 148 00:07:20,746 --> 00:07:23,506 Speaker 1: even through forty eight touchdowns, and that was a number No. 149 00:07:23,546 --> 00:07:25,906 Speaker 1: One hit until Peyton Manning, who something tells me you 150 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:27,906 Speaker 1: might point to a little bit later in this podcast 151 00:07:28,106 --> 00:07:31,226 Speaker 1: had forty nine in two thousand four. We could also 152 00:07:31,266 --> 00:07:33,346 Speaker 1: say that he played in an arrow war defensive backs 153 00:07:33,386 --> 00:07:35,546 Speaker 1: got away with a little bit more to it, right. 154 00:07:35,626 --> 00:07:37,706 Speaker 1: I mean not to make this a basketball podcast, but 155 00:07:37,746 --> 00:07:39,986 Speaker 1: I do think about basketball in the nineties, like you 156 00:07:40,026 --> 00:07:43,146 Speaker 1: know that was that was tough. Man, were fighting out there. Legit. 157 00:07:43,626 --> 00:07:45,906 Speaker 1: Now you like you breathe too hard on a guy, 158 00:07:45,906 --> 00:07:49,506 Speaker 1: and it's for saying the wrong thing. Some words that 159 00:07:49,626 --> 00:07:54,586 Speaker 1: just weren't It's just words. When he retired, by the way, Marino, 160 00:07:54,706 --> 00:07:58,226 Speaker 1: he led the league and passing yards, completions and passing touchdowns. 161 00:07:58,226 --> 00:08:01,106 Speaker 1: He also led the a f C and passing touchdowns 162 00:08:01,106 --> 00:08:05,826 Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty three to nineteen So how do you 163 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:09,266 Speaker 1: view a guy like Dan Marino? So, first of all, 164 00:08:09,266 --> 00:08:11,946 Speaker 1: people got to understand, if you haven't met this dude, 165 00:08:12,146 --> 00:08:15,626 Speaker 1: he's huge. Okay, he is a big dude. He was 166 00:08:15,666 --> 00:08:17,586 Speaker 1: at the Buffalo game when I was up there when 167 00:08:17,586 --> 00:08:19,306 Speaker 1: I was in my cold leather jacket and all that 168 00:08:19,346 --> 00:08:22,586 Speaker 1: stuff with Colleen and Steve Smith and m J. D Uh. 169 00:08:22,626 --> 00:08:25,106 Speaker 1: He was there and he's huge, So he's a big dude, 170 00:08:25,506 --> 00:08:28,626 Speaker 1: and he ain't running nowhere. And to to to understand 171 00:08:28,986 --> 00:08:31,706 Speaker 1: what Dan Marino met to the quarterback position, I think 172 00:08:31,786 --> 00:08:34,826 Speaker 1: he was the first guy to show coaches, to show 173 00:08:35,226 --> 00:08:39,026 Speaker 1: everybody in the football world you can will a team 174 00:08:39,186 --> 00:08:42,786 Speaker 1: up and down the field and win games consistently with 175 00:08:42,986 --> 00:08:45,946 Speaker 1: just your arm, just your arm. You don't necessarily need 176 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:48,386 Speaker 1: to because you got to think the sixties and seventies 177 00:08:48,386 --> 00:08:51,466 Speaker 1: were dominated by the running back position. They ran the football. 178 00:08:51,506 --> 00:08:54,546 Speaker 1: The fullbacks even ran the football in the early years 179 00:08:54,546 --> 00:08:56,426 Speaker 1: of the game. And then you get this gun slinger 180 00:08:56,746 --> 00:08:59,386 Speaker 1: and Dan Marino coming out of Pittsburgh, who you know, 181 00:08:59,466 --> 00:09:01,866 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a weird delivery, but at 182 00:09:01,866 --> 00:09:03,466 Speaker 1: the end of the day, he can hit any point 183 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:05,866 Speaker 1: on the field, any point in the field. And to me, 184 00:09:06,426 --> 00:09:09,586 Speaker 1: that's his significance to the position, the fact that he 185 00:09:09,706 --> 00:09:11,386 Speaker 1: was a guy. And again I always talk about this 186 00:09:11,426 --> 00:09:13,786 Speaker 1: on Autotal Access show. There's not a lot of human 187 00:09:13,826 --> 00:09:15,866 Speaker 1: beings who can wild their team up and down the 188 00:09:15,906 --> 00:09:18,666 Speaker 1: field with just the abilities of their arm. Dan Marino, 189 00:09:18,746 --> 00:09:21,546 Speaker 1: in my opinion, was the first, at least the first 190 00:09:21,666 --> 00:09:24,506 Speaker 1: big time guy where the numbers proved it and everything 191 00:09:24,626 --> 00:09:26,386 Speaker 1: on the scene at the quarterback position. All right, A 192 00:09:26,386 --> 00:09:27,986 Speaker 1: little bit of a tangent here because I had asked 193 00:09:28,026 --> 00:09:31,986 Speaker 1: you about the Super Bowl being that one moment that 194 00:09:32,586 --> 00:09:35,506 Speaker 1: kind of makes a career. And as I'm thinking about 195 00:09:35,546 --> 00:09:38,466 Speaker 1: what your response was, I almost now feel bad, And 196 00:09:38,466 --> 00:09:41,226 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't feel bad, but like, think about that, though. 197 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:44,746 Speaker 1: You gotta have so many right circumstances to go into 198 00:09:44,746 --> 00:09:46,666 Speaker 1: place here, and it's not just about what you do 199 00:09:46,746 --> 00:09:50,586 Speaker 1: individually on the field, it's about schematically. Your coach is 200 00:09:50,626 --> 00:09:52,946 Speaker 1: the play calling your defensive which we'll talk about a 201 00:09:52,986 --> 00:09:55,386 Speaker 1: little bit later in this podcast. Like can you imagine 202 00:09:55,426 --> 00:09:57,826 Speaker 1: if and we'll talk about Joe Montana second here, if 203 00:09:57,866 --> 00:10:00,786 Speaker 1: I said Dan Marino's playing with the Niners, Like do 204 00:10:00,866 --> 00:10:03,306 Speaker 1: we have a very different conversation about Dan Marino and 205 00:10:03,306 --> 00:10:06,146 Speaker 1: a very different one about Joe Montana? Or absolutely? I mean, 206 00:10:06,226 --> 00:10:08,146 Speaker 1: and again I know we're gonna get to Joe Montana, 207 00:10:08,226 --> 00:10:11,906 Speaker 1: but you talk about Joe Montana. Yes, one, four super bowls, 208 00:10:11,906 --> 00:10:13,826 Speaker 1: all lit those things he wanted every time he got there, 209 00:10:14,186 --> 00:10:17,066 Speaker 1: but he had Bill Walsh, and I'm one of those 210 00:10:17,066 --> 00:10:20,706 Speaker 1: guys where to me, you cannot discount the fact that 211 00:10:20,786 --> 00:10:24,906 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, who is one of the architects of offense 212 00:10:24,986 --> 00:10:30,586 Speaker 1: in our game. Almost every single offense on any level 213 00:10:30,666 --> 00:10:33,866 Speaker 1: of anything of football has some type of Bill Walsh 214 00:10:33,986 --> 00:10:37,826 Speaker 1: principle associated with it. That's how influential that guy was. 215 00:10:37,866 --> 00:10:40,986 Speaker 1: And so that's who Joe Montana had it. So I 216 00:10:41,066 --> 00:10:43,226 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, I give some of that success 217 00:10:43,466 --> 00:10:45,266 Speaker 1: to Bill Walsh as well. Yeah, I had asked you 218 00:10:45,266 --> 00:10:47,306 Speaker 1: on a previous podcast when we talked about running backs. 219 00:10:47,346 --> 00:10:50,226 Speaker 1: I said, Emmitt Smith, right, and he was like, dude, 220 00:10:50,266 --> 00:10:52,146 Speaker 1: he was good. But I think about those big boys 221 00:10:52,186 --> 00:10:55,626 Speaker 1: up from Larry Allen, those guys and I played with 222 00:10:55,666 --> 00:10:57,746 Speaker 1: Larry Allen, Hall of Fame guy. We we talked about 223 00:10:57,866 --> 00:10:59,986 Speaker 1: the past rushers and Lawrence Telling. Again, I think Lawrence 224 00:10:59,986 --> 00:11:02,146 Speaker 1: Tell was one of the best ever to do it right, 225 00:11:02,266 --> 00:11:05,226 Speaker 1: but he was in the Buddy Ryan defense who was 226 00:11:05,306 --> 00:11:08,386 Speaker 1: kind of to the National Football League, and it has 227 00:11:08,426 --> 00:11:11,106 Speaker 1: some advantageous situations for him. Let's just say that, I 228 00:11:11,186 --> 00:11:14,706 Speaker 1: say I respond to everything that m Rob said with this. 229 00:11:14,986 --> 00:11:16,986 Speaker 1: By the time we get to the end of the podcast. 230 00:11:17,266 --> 00:11:19,866 Speaker 1: Who you think is the goat or who you thought 231 00:11:20,226 --> 00:11:22,586 Speaker 1: was your selection? It might be different because as I 232 00:11:22,666 --> 00:11:24,666 Speaker 1: was going through those notes, I had a guy in 233 00:11:24,786 --> 00:11:29,786 Speaker 1: my head, and after I finished digesting everything, I said, I, So, 234 00:11:29,826 --> 00:11:31,946 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there. It could be very 235 00:11:31,986 --> 00:11:34,706 Speaker 1: different if you just stick with us here, Joe Montana, 236 00:11:34,746 --> 00:11:37,866 Speaker 1: I will bring him up now. Obviously different than Marino. 237 00:11:38,266 --> 00:11:41,066 Speaker 1: You mentioned that offense with wash, a West Coast offense 238 00:11:41,066 --> 00:11:45,906 Speaker 1: that relied heavily on a little bit more efficiency, less 239 00:11:45,946 --> 00:11:48,666 Speaker 1: on the Dare I say that bred far sort of 240 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:51,226 Speaker 1: gun slinger mentality. We'll talk about far of coming up here. 241 00:11:52,106 --> 00:11:57,506 Speaker 1: His numbers over passing yards, two seventy three passing touchdowns. 242 00:11:57,786 --> 00:12:00,986 Speaker 1: Those numbers might seem big, but for context, they're not 243 00:12:01,066 --> 00:12:03,706 Speaker 1: even in the top eighteen all time. Here's the difference. 244 00:12:03,706 --> 00:12:06,786 Speaker 1: Though he won two m v ps, and he delivered 245 00:12:06,906 --> 00:12:10,266 Speaker 1: when it mattered the most a point a passer rating 246 00:12:10,706 --> 00:12:14,386 Speaker 1: in four Super Bowls. By the way, all championships also 247 00:12:14,466 --> 00:12:18,506 Speaker 1: had eleven touchdowns zero interceptions in those games. And it 248 00:12:18,586 --> 00:12:21,626 Speaker 1: also helps if you have a guy named Cherry, right, 249 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:24,026 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice the goat the greatest way I received it 250 00:12:24,106 --> 00:12:26,266 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. But I mean to hear those numbers 251 00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:28,906 Speaker 1: from Joe Montane. And again, I don't want our listeners 252 00:12:28,946 --> 00:12:30,986 Speaker 1: to say, oh, Mike rob I'm talking about Bill Walsh. 253 00:12:31,066 --> 00:12:33,706 Speaker 1: To take something away from Joe Montown, know that hundred 254 00:12:34,186 --> 00:12:37,106 Speaker 1: passer rade. I mean those are real numbers. Eleven touchdowns 255 00:12:37,266 --> 00:12:40,426 Speaker 1: were intercepted. He plead did that. He played those games. 256 00:12:40,466 --> 00:12:43,346 Speaker 1: He had to make the real end game decisions. He 257 00:12:43,386 --> 00:12:44,906 Speaker 1: had to be cool as a cue. Come. I remember 258 00:12:44,946 --> 00:12:46,706 Speaker 1: he would talk about it. Forget that Super Bowl where 259 00:12:46,826 --> 00:12:48,866 Speaker 1: he had to make that big long drive and he's 260 00:12:48,866 --> 00:12:51,346 Speaker 1: in the huddle talking about John Candy up in the stands. 261 00:12:51,386 --> 00:12:54,306 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was his superpower, being calm and 262 00:12:54,346 --> 00:12:58,306 Speaker 1: collected in those crazy situations. But again, when you have 263 00:12:58,426 --> 00:13:02,186 Speaker 1: a guy like a Bill Walsh, who, again through necessity 264 00:13:02,266 --> 00:13:04,386 Speaker 1: because his offensive line wasn't that good at some of 265 00:13:04,386 --> 00:13:06,386 Speaker 1: the lower levels, had to the hell up a new 266 00:13:06,466 --> 00:13:09,706 Speaker 1: style of offense that the league hadn't seen. Again, Ernie's 267 00:13:09,746 --> 00:13:12,546 Speaker 1: and Pez did the same thing Mike Martz at the time. 268 00:13:12,826 --> 00:13:15,746 Speaker 1: You remember Mike Martz when he had our Kurt Warner. 269 00:13:16,226 --> 00:13:19,266 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner I mean said all types of records, right. 270 00:13:19,266 --> 00:13:22,426 Speaker 1: But when he left, Mike Martz and that offense wasn't 271 00:13:22,466 --> 00:13:24,786 Speaker 1: coach the same he went to the Giants. Kurt looked 272 00:13:24,826 --> 00:13:26,546 Speaker 1: a little bit different to me. That had a lot 273 00:13:26,586 --> 00:13:29,026 Speaker 1: to do again with the play called, and it flips 274 00:13:29,186 --> 00:13:31,706 Speaker 1: the other way. You know. We talked about this on 275 00:13:31,786 --> 00:13:35,306 Speaker 1: another episode about two h um Man. You know, look 276 00:13:35,346 --> 00:13:38,666 Speaker 1: at how different his season was with Mike McDaniel there. 277 00:13:38,706 --> 00:13:41,746 Speaker 1: And it's not not it's just sometimes guys gravitate towards 278 00:13:41,746 --> 00:13:45,106 Speaker 1: a specific scheme of just a better fit. Talked to 279 00:13:45,346 --> 00:13:48,546 Speaker 1: differently from a coach's perspective. You know, how you show 280 00:13:48,626 --> 00:13:51,746 Speaker 1: up to work like those and your mindset heading into 281 00:13:51,866 --> 00:13:54,666 Speaker 1: that day changes depending on leadership. And it's not a 282 00:13:54,706 --> 00:13:57,386 Speaker 1: positive or negative thing, you know, not to knock anyone, 283 00:13:57,426 --> 00:13:59,586 Speaker 1: it's just kind of the reality of some of those 284 00:13:59,586 --> 00:14:03,186 Speaker 1: situations I mentioned far. I think he's important to get to. 285 00:14:03,466 --> 00:14:07,506 Speaker 1: It's a guy who's won three consecutive mp he's seven. 286 00:14:07,706 --> 00:14:11,106 Speaker 1: He's still fourth all time in yards touchdown, only behind 287 00:14:11,426 --> 00:14:12,906 Speaker 1: a couple of guys who could be on the Mount 288 00:14:12,986 --> 00:14:16,906 Speaker 1: Rushmore of quarterbacks and Brady Breeze and Manning eighteen seasons 289 00:14:16,986 --> 00:14:20,466 Speaker 1: of three thousand plus passing yards, second only to Yacht 290 00:14:20,466 --> 00:14:23,346 Speaker 1: t Beach twelve and his eleven Pro Bowls were the 291 00:14:23,426 --> 00:14:26,866 Speaker 1: most by a quarterback when he retired. There's a lot 292 00:14:26,946 --> 00:14:29,466 Speaker 1: of good that comes with Brett Farve. There's also some 293 00:14:29,466 --> 00:14:32,906 Speaker 1: stuff that happens when when you play a whole lot 294 00:14:32,946 --> 00:14:37,706 Speaker 1: as well. Also the record holder in most career interceptions 295 00:14:37,706 --> 00:14:41,066 Speaker 1: thrown and fumblest six I and t s a hundred 296 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:44,746 Speaker 1: and sixty six fumbles, a total of five hundred and 297 00:14:44,826 --> 00:14:48,626 Speaker 1: two career turnover. That doesn't even sound right you saying that, 298 00:14:48,866 --> 00:14:55,226 Speaker 1: right and two and he has a winning record. Wow, 299 00:14:55,266 --> 00:14:58,826 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's all the fame worthy just in itself, right, 300 00:14:58,866 --> 00:15:03,026 Speaker 1: being able to overcome the turnover that Green Bay fans, 301 00:15:03,066 --> 00:15:04,826 Speaker 1: by the way, they love this because Aaron Rodgers is 302 00:15:04,826 --> 00:15:07,946 Speaker 1: coming up later in this episode. Think about he's kind 303 00:15:07,986 --> 00:15:11,266 Speaker 1: of the antithesis when it comes to touchdown the interception 304 00:15:11,386 --> 00:15:15,386 Speaker 1: ratio and yet far you know, look context here. One 305 00:15:15,426 --> 00:15:20,626 Speaker 1: in every thirty throws that far through was what's an Like, 306 00:15:20,786 --> 00:15:23,466 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. But there's also something to be 307 00:15:23,466 --> 00:15:27,106 Speaker 1: said for playing and being available most consecutive starts by 308 00:15:27,106 --> 00:15:30,906 Speaker 1: a quarterback two hundred and that to me is as 309 00:15:30,906 --> 00:15:33,506 Speaker 1: impressive as any of the passing records that he holds. 310 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:37,346 Speaker 1: It is very impressive. I mean quarterbacks sometimes, yea, we 311 00:15:37,386 --> 00:15:39,786 Speaker 1: see it all the time. I mean, hell, all referees 312 00:15:39,866 --> 00:15:42,746 Speaker 1: can't get rough in the passing right, right, because sometimes 313 00:15:42,786 --> 00:15:46,466 Speaker 1: they're in such compromising positions and situations when they're trying 314 00:15:46,466 --> 00:15:48,986 Speaker 1: to throw the football and just kind of operate their offense. 315 00:15:49,026 --> 00:15:52,106 Speaker 1: And so the fact that Brett far through deaths in 316 00:15:52,186 --> 00:15:55,706 Speaker 1: his family, through everything that's going on, through stuff going 317 00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:57,506 Speaker 1: on in his personal life that we all knew that 318 00:15:57,546 --> 00:15:59,946 Speaker 1: was a very public thing, he still went out there 319 00:16:00,026 --> 00:16:02,226 Speaker 1: and played football. So to me, yet that there has 320 00:16:02,266 --> 00:16:04,066 Speaker 1: to be something said about that. But there also has 321 00:16:04,106 --> 00:16:07,786 Speaker 1: to be something said about that. And again, I I 322 00:16:07,826 --> 00:16:11,306 Speaker 1: almost think I'm saying something wrong because it's Brett Farve. 323 00:16:11,466 --> 00:16:15,346 Speaker 1: He only got one super Bowl, right, one? Like I 324 00:16:15,386 --> 00:16:17,546 Speaker 1: talked about Anne Rodgers. How do you say I got one? 325 00:16:17,546 --> 00:16:19,786 Speaker 1: He got the same amount as me, and I had 326 00:16:19,826 --> 00:16:22,786 Speaker 1: none of the talent those guys head And if they 327 00:16:22,786 --> 00:16:25,106 Speaker 1: were that great, shouldn't we get more out of them? 328 00:16:25,106 --> 00:16:27,946 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we get more championship? Sham. I'm not saying you 329 00:16:27,986 --> 00:16:29,986 Speaker 1: can throw that out there. But once again, by the 330 00:16:30,066 --> 00:16:33,066 Speaker 1: end of this podcast, you might say there's a reason 331 00:16:33,666 --> 00:16:36,706 Speaker 1: and some guys that have more of those championships might 332 00:16:36,746 --> 00:16:39,066 Speaker 1: have just had I don't know, the top five defense 333 00:16:39,186 --> 00:16:42,746 Speaker 1: might have had a guy like Jerry Rice. Those circumstances 334 00:16:42,746 --> 00:16:45,626 Speaker 1: dictate a lot of this conversation. I mentioned both the 335 00:16:45,626 --> 00:16:47,146 Speaker 1: good and the bad for far and we've done that 336 00:16:47,186 --> 00:16:50,226 Speaker 1: for a lot of these players. Does is he in 337 00:16:50,266 --> 00:16:52,546 Speaker 1: this conversation? I mean, clearly he is because we're talking 338 00:16:52,586 --> 00:16:56,426 Speaker 1: about him, But should he be discussed this way with 339 00:16:56,466 --> 00:16:59,026 Speaker 1: some of those turnovers that you made reference to? I 340 00:16:59,066 --> 00:17:02,466 Speaker 1: think so, God think I think when you when I 341 00:17:02,506 --> 00:17:05,026 Speaker 1: think about the greatest of all time, I think about 342 00:17:05,066 --> 00:17:07,866 Speaker 1: you have to when you think about the position, you 343 00:17:07,906 --> 00:17:10,226 Speaker 1: can't think about the position without thinking about the player. 344 00:17:10,506 --> 00:17:12,386 Speaker 1: And when I think about the quarterback position, and yeah, 345 00:17:12,426 --> 00:17:13,746 Speaker 1: we can say what we want to say about Brett 346 00:17:13,786 --> 00:17:16,906 Speaker 1: father and his personal life and miss Hues Funds, whatever 347 00:17:16,906 --> 00:17:19,386 Speaker 1: it was you want to say about it, interceptions, all that. 348 00:17:19,986 --> 00:17:21,186 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, when you think about 349 00:17:21,226 --> 00:17:23,866 Speaker 1: the quarterback position in the National Football League, Brett Farve 350 00:17:23,986 --> 00:17:26,906 Speaker 1: does come across your brain. Uh, you've ever heard of 351 00:17:26,946 --> 00:17:31,826 Speaker 1: the word entrapment? Okay, I'm actually glad. I wasn't even 352 00:17:31,826 --> 00:17:34,306 Speaker 1: doing this on purpose, but I just realized that if 353 00:17:34,346 --> 00:17:36,306 Speaker 1: you not if you didn't give the answer that you 354 00:17:36,386 --> 00:17:38,546 Speaker 1: just gave. I was going to follow up on a 355 00:17:38,586 --> 00:17:41,626 Speaker 1: conversation you and I had off their today about Josh Allen. 356 00:17:42,146 --> 00:17:45,546 Speaker 1: We're talking about some of the turnovers and you know 357 00:17:45,546 --> 00:17:47,706 Speaker 1: he's leaving the NFL and takeaways at this point of 358 00:17:47,786 --> 00:17:50,906 Speaker 1: this record, and you still stand by your guy because 359 00:17:50,946 --> 00:17:53,746 Speaker 1: of that. Mental's the mentality. And again in my notes, 360 00:17:53,786 --> 00:17:56,786 Speaker 1: I talked about Brett fav being authentic. His personality was 361 00:17:56,826 --> 00:17:59,586 Speaker 1: authentic and it showed up in his play. Right. Brett 362 00:17:59,626 --> 00:18:01,706 Speaker 1: Farve was gonna try you. He was gonna talk trash 363 00:18:01,786 --> 00:18:04,146 Speaker 1: to warrant sap, he was gonna get in his face there. Yeah, 364 00:18:04,186 --> 00:18:05,946 Speaker 1: he was gonna see it tight. He didn't see a 365 00:18:05,986 --> 00:18:07,866 Speaker 1: window small enough that he didn't think he could get 366 00:18:07,866 --> 00:18:10,346 Speaker 1: a football through. So I can live with that, And 367 00:18:10,626 --> 00:18:12,866 Speaker 1: to a back to our conversation with Josh Allen, I 368 00:18:12,866 --> 00:18:15,186 Speaker 1: can live with it. He fights defensive tackles at practice 369 00:18:15,226 --> 00:18:16,586 Speaker 1: and in the game. I've seen it with my own 370 00:18:16,586 --> 00:18:18,746 Speaker 1: two wives jams, So yeah, I can live with a 371 00:18:18,786 --> 00:18:22,266 Speaker 1: couple of interceptions. Once again, So for anyone who's who's 372 00:18:22,306 --> 00:18:23,946 Speaker 1: thinking that m Rob talks out of both sides of 373 00:18:23,946 --> 00:18:26,906 Speaker 1: his mouth, no, he is very consistent in the line 374 00:18:27,026 --> 00:18:29,186 Speaker 1: of thinking. All right, still to come, we continue this 375 00:18:29,226 --> 00:18:32,586 Speaker 1: conversation on quarterbacks. In fact, we'll flip ahead in terms 376 00:18:32,626 --> 00:18:35,426 Speaker 1: of generational type quarterbacks and give you some stats that 377 00:18:35,546 --> 00:18:38,866 Speaker 1: once again might have you rethinking who you think is 378 00:18:38,906 --> 00:18:42,266 Speaker 1: the goats before listening to this entire podcast that's still 379 00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:51,866 Speaker 1: to come on NFL Explained. All right, welcome back to 380 00:18:51,906 --> 00:18:54,866 Speaker 1: the NFL Explained podcast. We're talking about goats, in fact, 381 00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:58,026 Speaker 1: just one goat, and I'm a little undecided on who 382 00:18:58,066 --> 00:19:01,026 Speaker 1: that go to the quarterback spot actually is. And I'll 383 00:19:01,066 --> 00:19:02,826 Speaker 1: let you guys decide by the end of this podcast, 384 00:19:02,826 --> 00:19:05,306 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you there's a crazy stat coming up 385 00:19:05,306 --> 00:19:10,946 Speaker 1: a little bit later that totally had me rethinking entire time. 386 00:19:10,986 --> 00:19:12,666 Speaker 1: I think it's going to shave every show that I 387 00:19:12,706 --> 00:19:15,186 Speaker 1: do on Total Access as well, because we always talk 388 00:19:15,226 --> 00:19:17,466 Speaker 1: about these skill position players and what they do. But 389 00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:19,866 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you the guys on the 390 00:19:19,866 --> 00:19:23,266 Speaker 1: other side of the field, they're pretty good something. Uh 391 00:19:23,506 --> 00:19:25,826 Speaker 1: as far as quarterbacks go. Drew Brees and I think 392 00:19:25,826 --> 00:19:28,306 Speaker 1: about the numbers, I think about his winning mentality, I 393 00:19:28,306 --> 00:19:31,506 Speaker 1: think about some of the production here and just how 394 00:19:31,546 --> 00:19:34,466 Speaker 1: prolific he was when he was playing. Here's some numbers 395 00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:38,666 Speaker 1: for you. Over eighty thousand passing yards, five hundred and 396 00:19:38,706 --> 00:19:42,706 Speaker 1: seventy one passing touchdowns, both of those numbers behind Tom Brady. 397 00:19:43,026 --> 00:19:47,666 Speaker 1: The guy owns five of the fourteen five thousand yard 398 00:19:47,706 --> 00:19:50,546 Speaker 1: passing seasons of all time. Next player, by the way, 399 00:19:50,826 --> 00:19:54,026 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady. Here's the other number for me that 400 00:19:54,186 --> 00:19:58,666 Speaker 1: is really meaningful. The three highest single season completion percentages 401 00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:05,306 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Those are Drew Brees seventy four point 402 00:20:05,346 --> 00:20:09,346 Speaker 1: four per sent in nineteen seventy four point I mean, 403 00:20:09,346 --> 00:20:10,986 Speaker 1: you were pointing at me when I was saying it. 404 00:20:10,986 --> 00:20:14,106 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I just want our listeners and viewers to 405 00:20:14,226 --> 00:20:19,826 Speaker 1: think about that. For three years straight Drew Brees three 406 00:20:19,866 --> 00:20:23,586 Speaker 1: out of every four passes was complete. Wild. That is 407 00:20:23,826 --> 00:20:28,306 Speaker 1: ridiculously crazy. And guys, the defense, defensive backs, everybody, they 408 00:20:28,306 --> 00:20:30,906 Speaker 1: get paid a lot of money to not allow the 409 00:20:30,906 --> 00:20:33,986 Speaker 1: wide receivers to catch the football. I mean, that's that 410 00:20:34,226 --> 00:20:37,466 Speaker 1: is crazy, Yams, It's crazy. What was it about Drew 411 00:20:37,506 --> 00:20:42,066 Speaker 1: Brees that had him being that successful statistically? I would 412 00:20:42,066 --> 00:20:45,826 Speaker 1: say accuracy and where you put the football, Because see 413 00:20:45,906 --> 00:20:47,666 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I wouldn't sit here, and I don't. I 414 00:20:47,666 --> 00:20:51,146 Speaker 1: don't think anybody would say Drew Brees had the strongest 415 00:20:51,226 --> 00:20:54,586 Speaker 1: arm right, but his ability to fit the ball in 416 00:20:54,666 --> 00:20:58,586 Speaker 1: the tight windows right with anticipation in timing, and it's 417 00:20:58,626 --> 00:21:02,226 Speaker 1: a catchable ball. Like so everybody knows I'm Bills Mafia 418 00:21:02,306 --> 00:21:04,626 Speaker 1: right now. I love Josh Allen. And even when I 419 00:21:04,666 --> 00:21:07,386 Speaker 1: talked to Josh, like the conversations I've had with him, 420 00:21:07,386 --> 00:21:10,146 Speaker 1: I'm like, Josh sometimes, bro, when you throw that thing, man, 421 00:21:10,226 --> 00:21:12,146 Speaker 1: especially as a running back, when I do my punching 422 00:21:12,146 --> 00:21:14,906 Speaker 1: pivot and I turned around over the football, you're throwing 423 00:21:15,026 --> 00:21:18,066 Speaker 1: smokers man that that knows that that football is down 424 00:21:18,226 --> 00:21:22,426 Speaker 1: and to complete a reception. Yes, there's a throw part 425 00:21:22,466 --> 00:21:24,466 Speaker 1: to it, but the other part is me being able 426 00:21:24,466 --> 00:21:27,986 Speaker 1: to catch it. And the nose is always down. With 427 00:21:28,066 --> 00:21:30,666 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, oftentimes the nose is a little 428 00:21:30,666 --> 00:21:33,906 Speaker 1: bit then because they're driving the football right. Drew Brees, 429 00:21:33,946 --> 00:21:36,746 Speaker 1: the nose stayed up and it allows the receiver to 430 00:21:37,066 --> 00:21:39,026 Speaker 1: snatch it out of the air right and be able 431 00:21:39,026 --> 00:21:40,666 Speaker 1: to do kind of what he wants to do with it. 432 00:21:41,306 --> 00:21:43,546 Speaker 1: To me, I'm not so sure there's been another quarterback 433 00:21:44,306 --> 00:21:47,586 Speaker 1: better at ball placement. And accuracy, and if you can 434 00:21:47,746 --> 00:21:49,786 Speaker 1: put the ball where you need to put it um 435 00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:52,906 Speaker 1: where the receiver can go, that means you're processing information 436 00:21:52,946 --> 00:21:55,626 Speaker 1: at a very high level. That's to me, that was 437 00:21:55,706 --> 00:21:59,226 Speaker 1: Drew Brees' superpower, his accuracy, his ball placement, and his 438 00:21:59,306 --> 00:22:02,866 Speaker 1: ability to process things. I mean, there's oftentimes on Drew 439 00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:06,346 Speaker 1: Brees second step. So for all my quarterbacks out there, 440 00:22:06,386 --> 00:22:08,306 Speaker 1: the first step is your power step to get away 441 00:22:08,306 --> 00:22:10,666 Speaker 1: from your understanding. Your second step is another power step 442 00:22:10,866 --> 00:22:14,386 Speaker 1: to kind of continue to drive away. By the second step, 443 00:22:14,466 --> 00:22:17,066 Speaker 1: Drew Brees oftentimes knew where he was going with the football, 444 00:22:17,626 --> 00:22:20,946 Speaker 1: and the defense hadn't always said itself by that time, 445 00:22:20,986 --> 00:22:23,666 Speaker 1: but Drew Brees knew what they were doing before often 446 00:22:23,746 --> 00:22:25,946 Speaker 1: times they knew what they were doing. Again, I don't 447 00:22:26,026 --> 00:22:28,666 Speaker 1: know if there's been another quarterback on that, you know, 448 00:22:28,706 --> 00:22:31,346 Speaker 1: to his level of doing it, throwing the ball, ball 449 00:22:31,386 --> 00:22:36,426 Speaker 1: placement and obviously processing data. How many Super Bowls though one? Yeah, 450 00:22:37,066 --> 00:22:39,106 Speaker 1: that's the thing for me. You just said something. We 451 00:22:39,226 --> 00:22:43,426 Speaker 1: highlighted the accuracy for Drew Brees. I would imagine you 452 00:22:43,626 --> 00:22:46,346 Speaker 1: felt like when you were playing quarterback, you could hit 453 00:22:46,386 --> 00:22:49,826 Speaker 1: any mark anywhere. I would imagine every other quarterback in 454 00:22:49,866 --> 00:22:52,266 Speaker 1: the NFL. When they hear accuracy, They're like, are you 455 00:22:52,346 --> 00:22:54,666 Speaker 1: kidding me? I could hit like a quarter You want 456 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:56,426 Speaker 1: to throw a quarter down the football field, I'll hit that. 457 00:22:56,466 --> 00:22:58,946 Speaker 1: Damn le gonna stop you right there. I agree with that. 458 00:22:59,466 --> 00:23:02,186 Speaker 1: I believe every single quarterback or everybody who's played quarterback 459 00:23:02,426 --> 00:23:07,666 Speaker 1: says that publicly. Yes, I'm I'm real, Mike robbed Um okay, 460 00:23:08,186 --> 00:23:09,866 Speaker 1: And when I got to the National Football League, I 461 00:23:09,866 --> 00:23:12,266 Speaker 1: remember calling my brother, was one of my biggest fans, 462 00:23:12,306 --> 00:23:15,066 Speaker 1: and my dude one of my best friends, and I'm saying, Bro, 463 00:23:15,666 --> 00:23:17,106 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could have played quarterback in 464 00:23:17,106 --> 00:23:24,106 Speaker 1: this league. The accuracy and ball placement is on point. 465 00:23:24,906 --> 00:23:27,186 Speaker 1: And I used to always remember I used to always 466 00:23:27,186 --> 00:23:29,946 Speaker 1: have to think about where that ball was gonna go 467 00:23:29,946 --> 00:23:31,666 Speaker 1: in it, but went until, you know, later on in 468 00:23:31,706 --> 00:23:33,626 Speaker 1: my last year playing, and I was really feeling good 469 00:23:33,626 --> 00:23:35,506 Speaker 1: about it, where the ball was just coming out, just 470 00:23:35,506 --> 00:23:38,506 Speaker 1: throw it. I wasn't aiming. I wasn't aiming, and the 471 00:23:38,626 --> 00:23:41,186 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks just do that naturally. It's just what it was. 472 00:23:41,466 --> 00:23:45,186 Speaker 1: But to your point, yeah, every quarterback will say that 473 00:23:45,226 --> 00:23:47,746 Speaker 1: out loud, but what are they saying to themselves? And 474 00:23:47,786 --> 00:23:50,226 Speaker 1: I believe. Quarterbacks will say they can hit every part 475 00:23:50,226 --> 00:23:52,266 Speaker 1: on the football field, but do they really know if 476 00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:54,626 Speaker 1: they can't. No, I don't think they do. That's good. 477 00:23:55,066 --> 00:23:56,746 Speaker 1: I just I kind of wanted to hear that because 478 00:23:56,746 --> 00:24:00,146 Speaker 1: I heard we gave the numbers for for Drew Brees, 479 00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:02,786 Speaker 1: and yet I'm going through a short list of the 480 00:24:02,786 --> 00:24:05,466 Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks that have played in this game, and I 481 00:24:05,466 --> 00:24:08,666 Speaker 1: think it is important to highlight those numbers in particular, 482 00:24:08,946 --> 00:24:11,306 Speaker 1: because I think all these guys can say because it's 483 00:24:11,346 --> 00:24:13,586 Speaker 1: frustrating at times when we get closer to the NFL 484 00:24:13,666 --> 00:24:16,386 Speaker 1: Draft and you hear the same phrases like pinpoint accuracy 485 00:24:16,546 --> 00:24:17,906 Speaker 1: or you know, a guy can make every throw on 486 00:24:17,906 --> 00:24:19,506 Speaker 1: the football field, And in my mind, I'm like, all right, 487 00:24:19,546 --> 00:24:21,746 Speaker 1: I bet that guy believes it, But how come they're 488 00:24:21,746 --> 00:24:24,186 Speaker 1: not all doing it? Well, a lot of those buzz 489 00:24:24,186 --> 00:24:27,026 Speaker 1: words come up because not everybody watches Tate, no doubt, 490 00:24:27,146 --> 00:24:29,186 Speaker 1: and so what happens is you see one guy saying that, 491 00:24:29,226 --> 00:24:31,586 Speaker 1: people start started falling back to that stuff. That's why 492 00:24:31,626 --> 00:24:34,266 Speaker 1: I always say, even talk producers here, I can't talk 493 00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:38,386 Speaker 1: about the Gunless. I've seen him on tape, ye know. 494 00:24:38,786 --> 00:24:42,506 Speaker 1: And I remember when Justin Herbert was coming out and 495 00:24:42,546 --> 00:24:44,746 Speaker 1: people were talking about a lack of accuracy for him 496 00:24:44,746 --> 00:24:47,466 Speaker 1: because the numbers were raw. And if you I just 497 00:24:47,506 --> 00:24:49,706 Speaker 1: happened to know this, because you know, I was obviously 498 00:24:49,746 --> 00:24:52,786 Speaker 1: covering him when he was in college. He had like 499 00:24:52,906 --> 00:24:56,026 Speaker 1: one season the team had tracked it. I think it 500 00:24:56,106 --> 00:24:59,066 Speaker 1: was like forty five drops. I mean it was something unwowable. 501 00:24:59,346 --> 00:25:01,866 Speaker 1: And how many times I watched the game to your point, 502 00:25:01,906 --> 00:25:04,306 Speaker 1: watching the film going, you know that that throw couldn't 503 00:25:04,306 --> 00:25:07,466 Speaker 1: have been better, and that guy football exactly. So sometimes 504 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,706 Speaker 1: those numbers are a little skewed. But the point is 505 00:25:10,066 --> 00:25:12,266 Speaker 1: all these guys are super talented. But the next guy 506 00:25:12,266 --> 00:25:15,466 Speaker 1: on our list is I think a real contender for 507 00:25:15,706 --> 00:25:19,706 Speaker 1: the goat spot. That's Peyton Manning different facet of the game. 508 00:25:19,786 --> 00:25:23,186 Speaker 1: Here across the board what he I could see it? Man, 509 00:25:23,186 --> 00:25:26,306 Speaker 1: how about you just take this man? It was a badman. 510 00:25:27,026 --> 00:25:29,786 Speaker 1: Oh he was all right here here the numbers here, 511 00:25:29,866 --> 00:25:33,906 Speaker 1: five NFL MVP awards most of all time, three second 512 00:25:33,906 --> 00:25:38,106 Speaker 1: place finishes, seven time First Team All Pro That ties 513 00:25:38,146 --> 00:25:41,066 Speaker 1: the most by any quarterback autogram the other guy. Two 514 00:25:41,106 --> 00:25:43,386 Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins and a Super Bowl m v P. 515 00:25:43,706 --> 00:25:45,746 Speaker 1: Those some of the statistics and some of the numbers 516 00:25:45,746 --> 00:25:50,466 Speaker 1: there quantified for me. So yeah, yeah, I wentn't alive 517 00:25:50,506 --> 00:25:53,306 Speaker 1: when every single quarterback let's play in the National Football 518 00:25:53,386 --> 00:25:55,586 Speaker 1: League has went through. I used my favorite quarterback of 519 00:25:55,626 --> 00:26:00,466 Speaker 1: all time before I experienced Peg Manning was Joe nam Right, 520 00:26:00,506 --> 00:26:02,426 Speaker 1: And no, I wasn't alive when Joe named was on 521 00:26:02,466 --> 00:26:03,826 Speaker 1: the side. I was doing this thing. But when I 522 00:26:03,826 --> 00:26:05,946 Speaker 1: watched the tape and I watched film of him was 523 00:26:06,026 --> 00:26:08,066 Speaker 1: calling his own plays and then he would put on 524 00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:11,186 Speaker 1: a fur coat on the sideline. Man, you know, I 525 00:26:11,226 --> 00:26:13,226 Speaker 1: just thought that was so cool, and I'm like, damn, 526 00:26:13,386 --> 00:26:15,666 Speaker 1: how can that dude just be wearing for Coco out 527 00:26:15,706 --> 00:26:18,226 Speaker 1: party in the night before, call his own plays understand 528 00:26:18,226 --> 00:26:20,466 Speaker 1: the game that much when he can do that. So 529 00:26:20,506 --> 00:26:23,266 Speaker 1: that's why I rolled with Joe Namath and then I 530 00:26:23,386 --> 00:26:28,466 Speaker 1: encounter Paid Manning. Okay, so Yeams, he's the greatest quarterback 531 00:26:28,506 --> 00:26:31,426 Speaker 1: of all time in my opinion. He's the greatest quarterback 532 00:26:31,466 --> 00:26:34,626 Speaker 1: of all time in my opinion. Okay, this is so 533 00:26:34,746 --> 00:26:38,226 Speaker 1: much here. First of all, immediately when he got the 534 00:26:38,306 --> 00:26:41,426 Speaker 1: National Football League, he didn't look overwhelm. Yes, he had 535 00:26:41,826 --> 00:26:44,746 Speaker 1: the interceptions were there, but he looked like he could 536 00:26:44,826 --> 00:26:47,786 Speaker 1: operate in the National Football Last whatever football player wants 537 00:26:47,786 --> 00:26:49,386 Speaker 1: to know man. Like I used to tell you on 538 00:26:49,426 --> 00:26:51,506 Speaker 1: a previous episode, I would call home, man, how did 539 00:26:51,546 --> 00:26:53,626 Speaker 1: I look? Man? Forget my numbers? Did I look like 540 00:26:53,666 --> 00:26:55,386 Speaker 1: a kid out there? Did I look like a grown 541 00:26:55,386 --> 00:26:57,426 Speaker 1: man I was supposed to be out there? He looked 542 00:26:57,626 --> 00:27:01,426 Speaker 1: the part that's number one. And he basically developed an 543 00:27:01,426 --> 00:27:04,746 Speaker 1: offense like for real. And I say that because I 544 00:27:04,786 --> 00:27:07,106 Speaker 1: was in college when um, you know, it was kind 545 00:27:07,106 --> 00:27:09,466 Speaker 1: of early in his career in two thousand two, two three, 546 00:27:09,466 --> 00:27:12,626 Speaker 1: two thousand four. And I remember our coaching staff because 547 00:27:12,746 --> 00:27:15,026 Speaker 1: coach Carlwell used to be at Penn State, and our 548 00:27:15,426 --> 00:27:18,626 Speaker 1: coaching staff we would go to Indy to see the 549 00:27:18,626 --> 00:27:21,466 Speaker 1: passing principles and things that they were doing. And and 550 00:27:21,586 --> 00:27:24,106 Speaker 1: what he did was he married some some real cool 551 00:27:24,266 --> 00:27:26,986 Speaker 1: passing principles to the outside zone, stretched play and all 552 00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:30,146 Speaker 1: those things. He was able to kind of operate everything 553 00:27:30,146 --> 00:27:32,146 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. He really didn't necessarily need 554 00:27:32,706 --> 00:27:34,626 Speaker 1: the guy calling plays from the sil and he needed 555 00:27:34,666 --> 00:27:37,186 Speaker 1: the information and the input from the guys and stuff 556 00:27:37,226 --> 00:27:39,426 Speaker 1: from the booth. But he was the maestro. He was 557 00:27:39,506 --> 00:27:42,666 Speaker 1: handling it all at the line of scrimmage. I think 558 00:27:42,706 --> 00:27:45,026 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos thought that's what they were getting with 559 00:27:45,106 --> 00:27:49,106 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, a guy who was gonna bring them a playbook. See, 560 00:27:49,546 --> 00:27:51,266 Speaker 1: I knew Adam Gates out of Gates with my guy 561 00:27:51,426 --> 00:27:54,146 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Adam Gates used to be the office coordinator 562 00:27:54,146 --> 00:27:56,146 Speaker 1: for Peyton Manning when he was in Denver. And Adam 563 00:27:56,186 --> 00:27:58,426 Speaker 1: told me, Mike, when Peyton got there, when he was 564 00:27:58,506 --> 00:28:02,826 Speaker 1: choosing the team, he sat me down and taught me 565 00:28:03,706 --> 00:28:07,826 Speaker 1: his offense and what we we're gonna run. Think about 566 00:28:07,866 --> 00:28:11,586 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Your offensive coordinators paid to be there, 567 00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:15,346 Speaker 1: the top brain on the offense. And he said, no, Bro, 568 00:28:15,626 --> 00:28:17,866 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm going on my team search. I'm 569 00:28:17,906 --> 00:28:19,706 Speaker 1: going around and see what teams I want to go to. 570 00:28:20,226 --> 00:28:21,746 Speaker 1: I want to make sure the front office straight. Don't 571 00:28:21,746 --> 00:28:24,026 Speaker 1: worry about the offense. I'll teach coordinated offense. That was 572 00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:25,426 Speaker 1: his thing, and I want to make sure my defense 573 00:28:25,506 --> 00:28:28,066 Speaker 1: is straight. She went to Denver and he sat down 574 00:28:28,106 --> 00:28:32,066 Speaker 1: and talked a whole plate. But to them, okay, think 575 00:28:32,106 --> 00:28:34,466 Speaker 1: about that. To me, that is amazing. That's on that 576 00:28:34,586 --> 00:28:36,306 Speaker 1: Joe naming thing where I can go out the night 577 00:28:36,306 --> 00:28:38,386 Speaker 1: before and they come out of the tall place. That's 578 00:28:38,386 --> 00:28:41,266 Speaker 1: why you see my training and thought. You see my thinking. Okay, 579 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,146 Speaker 1: he did it with multiple teams. He did it with Indy, 580 00:28:44,266 --> 00:28:46,626 Speaker 1: a right broke bunt records at all that, and then 581 00:28:46,626 --> 00:28:49,786 Speaker 1: he did it with the Denver Broncos. And I was 582 00:28:49,826 --> 00:28:52,746 Speaker 1: the best offensive season that our game has ever seen. It. 583 00:28:52,746 --> 00:28:56,706 Speaker 1: Of course, it ended in defeat to my Seattle Seahawks. 584 00:28:57,546 --> 00:29:00,506 Speaker 1: When I was in San Francisco, Yams, we played the 585 00:29:00,546 --> 00:29:03,866 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Coats. I was a returner. I got tripped up. 586 00:29:03,906 --> 00:29:07,186 Speaker 1: I'm gonna score a touchdown that game. Anyway. We were 587 00:29:07,266 --> 00:29:12,906 Speaker 1: down by two obe three. That's that's in consequence. He 588 00:29:13,026 --> 00:29:15,306 Speaker 1: got the ball on his own, like seven or eight 589 00:29:15,386 --> 00:29:19,106 Speaker 1: yard line, eight minutes left in the game. Yams. We're 590 00:29:19,146 --> 00:29:22,146 Speaker 1: on the side line saying, Bro, we've been to win 591 00:29:22,266 --> 00:29:24,106 Speaker 1: this thing. We're gonna get the ball back. He gonna 592 00:29:24,106 --> 00:29:26,946 Speaker 1: put it to his names. I'm telling man, we're gonna 593 00:29:26,986 --> 00:29:28,506 Speaker 1: take this thing back. Bro, We're gonna do this. We're 594 00:29:28,506 --> 00:29:30,306 Speaker 1: gonna do that. Alex Smith gonna throw me a rail 595 00:29:30,386 --> 00:29:34,026 Speaker 1: route down the We're gonna win this game, Yams. That 596 00:29:34,146 --> 00:29:40,066 Speaker 1: excitement turned into me taking a knee mad as Peyton 597 00:29:40,146 --> 00:29:44,066 Speaker 1: Manning is taking a knee on our four yard line. 598 00:29:44,906 --> 00:29:47,826 Speaker 1: Game over. He held the ball for eight and a 599 00:29:47,866 --> 00:29:50,746 Speaker 1: half minutes and we didn't touch the ball again. We 600 00:29:50,746 --> 00:29:53,426 Speaker 1: were we were moving the ball in their defense, but 601 00:29:53,466 --> 00:29:55,066 Speaker 1: he had to wear with all to say, you know what, 602 00:29:56,186 --> 00:29:58,986 Speaker 1: y'all ain't gonna touch the fielding. He made sure he 603 00:29:59,066 --> 00:30:01,306 Speaker 1: hiked the ball with one second on the clock every 604 00:30:01,306 --> 00:30:04,866 Speaker 1: single time, and he managed the entire damn thing. I 605 00:30:04,866 --> 00:30:08,466 Speaker 1: remember watching our coaches on the sideline like it's nothing 606 00:30:08,506 --> 00:30:13,666 Speaker 1: we can do, there is nothing we can do. Oh 607 00:30:13,666 --> 00:30:15,706 Speaker 1: and then one last thing. I'm sorry, Peyton Man's best 608 00:30:15,786 --> 00:30:19,186 Speaker 1: quarterback of all time in my pain after we beat 609 00:30:19,266 --> 00:30:22,426 Speaker 1: the hell out him in the Super Bowl. Okay, this dude, 610 00:30:22,546 --> 00:30:27,066 Speaker 1: I sat there and watched him. He waited for every 611 00:30:27,106 --> 00:30:30,706 Speaker 1: single one of us to finish our press conferences, all 612 00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:32,066 Speaker 1: of us. You know, I wo wasn't a quarterback, so 613 00:30:32,106 --> 00:30:33,866 Speaker 1: I'm a fullback. I got a little table, you know 614 00:30:33,866 --> 00:30:36,426 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He waited for all of us to finish, 615 00:30:36,986 --> 00:30:40,346 Speaker 1: shook every last one of our hands, every last one. 616 00:30:40,546 --> 00:30:43,106 Speaker 1: I'm telling all fifty three guys that we could be 617 00:30:43,146 --> 00:30:46,426 Speaker 1: available for the game. He made sure he made a 618 00:30:46,466 --> 00:30:48,226 Speaker 1: connection with every single one of them. And then the 619 00:30:48,226 --> 00:30:52,066 Speaker 1: man took a picture with my mama. Okay, why he's 620 00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:54,666 Speaker 1: in the middle of bit defeated. Okay, I ain't never 621 00:30:54,706 --> 00:30:58,226 Speaker 1: seen nothing like it, So YEAHMS. The only thing that 622 00:30:58,266 --> 00:31:00,906 Speaker 1: stopped to me, that stop Peyton Manning from getting even 623 00:31:00,906 --> 00:31:03,666 Speaker 1: more Super Bowls was the fact that he physically couldn't 624 00:31:03,666 --> 00:31:06,906 Speaker 1: do it anymore. Towards at the end, he was as 625 00:31:06,986 --> 00:31:09,426 Speaker 1: healthy as the Tom Brady was. I think he would 626 00:31:09,466 --> 00:31:12,306 Speaker 1: get it. If he had a coach, a defensive guy 627 00:31:12,426 --> 00:31:15,226 Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick, I think he would have more. But 628 00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:17,186 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he took two teams. 629 00:31:17,546 --> 00:31:19,306 Speaker 1: He'd been to Pro Bowl with two different teams. It 630 00:31:19,346 --> 00:31:21,306 Speaker 1: was an All Pro with two different He took multiple guys, 631 00:31:21,306 --> 00:31:24,386 Speaker 1: he elevated multiple guys, and he had his own offense. 632 00:31:24,706 --> 00:31:27,146 Speaker 1: For that, I give him the best quarterback of all time. Alright, 633 00:31:27,266 --> 00:31:29,706 Speaker 1: just for clarification purposes, Yeah, I just want to be 634 00:31:29,786 --> 00:31:33,026 Speaker 1: clear A lot no know. What you said about teaching 635 00:31:33,906 --> 00:31:37,186 Speaker 1: his offense like Landin in Denver sounds amazing. I just 636 00:31:37,226 --> 00:31:39,306 Speaker 1: want to be clear here. The other guys that we've 637 00:31:39,346 --> 00:31:40,866 Speaker 1: been talking about so far and the guys that we 638 00:31:40,906 --> 00:31:44,306 Speaker 1: will be talking about on this podcast, he don't do 639 00:31:44,386 --> 00:31:47,106 Speaker 1: that can't do that. I'm not saying they can't, right, 640 00:31:47,226 --> 00:31:49,146 Speaker 1: they just didn't do it. They haven't done it, okay, 641 00:31:49,266 --> 00:31:52,306 Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is jail. Are there some nuances 642 00:31:52,346 --> 00:31:56,946 Speaker 1: about the Mike McCarthy offense that are strictly tailor to 643 00:31:57,106 --> 00:32:02,306 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Absolutely? Are there some nuances of offense that 644 00:32:02,386 --> 00:32:04,906 Speaker 1: are strictly tailored to the Mahomes of the world and 645 00:32:04,986 --> 00:32:09,786 Speaker 1: the app slutely, but um. When Tom Brady was looking 646 00:32:09,826 --> 00:32:11,426 Speaker 1: for when he was a free agent, he was looking 647 00:32:11,586 --> 00:32:14,506 Speaker 1: for a team to go to. When I heard the 648 00:32:14,546 --> 00:32:17,466 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager when he talked about him, 649 00:32:17,466 --> 00:32:20,146 Speaker 1: he was like, it was almost like Tom was trying 650 00:32:20,186 --> 00:32:25,066 Speaker 1: to get us to pick him. Right. It was almost like, Wow, 651 00:32:25,226 --> 00:32:27,026 Speaker 1: I didn't know that I would get that type of 652 00:32:27,626 --> 00:32:30,666 Speaker 1: Tom was looking for offense that fit him, and yes, 653 00:32:30,946 --> 00:32:34,466 Speaker 1: he had some passing principles that he would add to it. 654 00:32:34,706 --> 00:32:36,666 Speaker 1: But he won't bring an offense. He won't say, Oh no, 655 00:32:36,706 --> 00:32:38,026 Speaker 1: I don't matter. I'm gonna sit there and teach you 656 00:32:38,026 --> 00:32:39,466 Speaker 1: about what I did up in here and this is 657 00:32:39,466 --> 00:32:42,426 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. No Bomban Leftwich and Bruce Areans 658 00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:45,466 Speaker 1: had to come together and have that play. Okay, I'm 659 00:32:45,466 --> 00:32:47,306 Speaker 1: glad you bring that up here. Last point here before 660 00:32:47,306 --> 00:32:49,186 Speaker 1: we get to Tom Brady, who's coming up next year. 661 00:32:49,706 --> 00:32:52,986 Speaker 1: We mentioned Drew Brees indoor versus outdoor played most of 662 00:32:53,026 --> 00:32:55,426 Speaker 1: his career indoor. I just want to throw this out there. 663 00:32:55,906 --> 00:33:01,506 Speaker 1: The numbers generally speaking are skewed better production indoor for 664 00:33:01,586 --> 00:33:05,266 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I say that for Peyton Manning as a comparison, 665 00:33:05,826 --> 00:33:10,506 Speaker 1: the numbers generally equal indoor versus outdoor, which I think 666 00:33:10,586 --> 00:33:14,106 Speaker 1: is it speaks to your point, it doesn't matter the venue. 667 00:33:14,186 --> 00:33:16,226 Speaker 1: I know people talk about Peyton playing in the cold, 668 00:33:16,466 --> 00:33:19,506 Speaker 1: oh yeah. And then on top of that, he played 669 00:33:19,506 --> 00:33:21,866 Speaker 1: in a f C. Who do you have to go through? 670 00:33:22,746 --> 00:33:24,306 Speaker 1: You had to go through the Times and the Bill 671 00:33:24,346 --> 00:33:26,586 Speaker 1: Belichicks and he had to go through that guard every 672 00:33:26,626 --> 00:33:28,626 Speaker 1: single year. Alright. So once he had the leader in 673 00:33:28,626 --> 00:33:30,946 Speaker 1: the clubhouse on all this stuff, Like when I saw 674 00:33:31,066 --> 00:33:32,586 Speaker 1: we were going to do this episode, I'm like, oh, 675 00:33:32,586 --> 00:33:35,186 Speaker 1: all right, this is gonna be like the Tom Brady 676 00:33:35,506 --> 00:33:40,786 Speaker 1: to the Goat episode. This section is okay, uh Brady, 677 00:33:40,826 --> 00:33:43,586 Speaker 1: and the number like, are you serious? Some of this 678 00:33:43,626 --> 00:33:47,226 Speaker 1: stuff is just it's it's crazy. Here. I'll just go 679 00:33:47,306 --> 00:33:49,666 Speaker 1: through some of these wins. Entering the playoffs, Brady thirty 680 00:33:49,706 --> 00:33:53,506 Speaker 1: five wins uh three more wins which he may or 681 00:33:53,546 --> 00:33:56,026 Speaker 1: may not get next season, depending on what he decides. 682 00:33:56,386 --> 00:34:01,626 Speaker 1: More playoff wins than any NFL franchise, Just crazy, except 683 00:34:01,626 --> 00:34:03,906 Speaker 1: for the Patriots, who has the most with thirty seven. 684 00:34:04,226 --> 00:34:06,866 Speaker 1: Here are some of the individual numbers. Eighty nine thou 685 00:34:07,026 --> 00:34:10,706 Speaker 1: passing yards a little over that, sixty nine passing touchdowns, 686 00:34:11,066 --> 00:34:14,346 Speaker 1: seven super Bowl wins, ten super Bowl appearances, all of 687 00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:17,626 Speaker 1: those numbers, by the way, most all time. Three NFL 688 00:34:17,746 --> 00:34:20,826 Speaker 1: MVP Awards tied for the third best with Peyton Manning, 689 00:34:20,946 --> 00:34:23,786 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers still to come, by the way, only five 690 00:34:23,786 --> 00:34:26,186 Speaker 1: times super Bowl m v P and NFL history. When 691 00:34:26,186 --> 00:34:28,906 Speaker 1: I say that there is a long freaking list in 692 00:34:28,906 --> 00:34:30,706 Speaker 1: front of me, it's a long list. I will stop 693 00:34:30,786 --> 00:34:35,746 Speaker 1: there and let you explain what's the most special thing 694 00:34:35,786 --> 00:34:40,506 Speaker 1: about Brady is. Maybe the answer is longevity. But there's 695 00:34:40,506 --> 00:34:42,186 Speaker 1: a reason why you called him the greatest winner, and 696 00:34:42,226 --> 00:34:43,626 Speaker 1: I think it speaks to the Super Bowls that I 697 00:34:43,666 --> 00:34:45,506 Speaker 1: made reference to. But you hedge on calling him the 698 00:34:45,546 --> 00:34:48,106 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time. Yeah, Um, he is the 699 00:34:48,106 --> 00:34:49,986 Speaker 1: greatest winner our game has ever seen. He is the 700 00:34:50,026 --> 00:34:53,826 Speaker 1: greatest force multiplier at the quarterback position that this game 701 00:34:53,866 --> 00:34:56,346 Speaker 1: has ever seen. And I can make arguments that those 702 00:34:56,346 --> 00:34:58,626 Speaker 1: first two or three Super Bowls were kind of one 703 00:34:58,666 --> 00:35:00,946 Speaker 1: off the defensive Proud was, running game prow was or 704 00:35:00,986 --> 00:35:04,946 Speaker 1: whatever before Brady kind of figured out this greatness about him. 705 00:35:05,826 --> 00:35:09,506 Speaker 1: You know, I figured out what made him himself. Right. Um, 706 00:35:09,546 --> 00:35:12,106 Speaker 1: the numbers that you just talked about, to me that 707 00:35:12,666 --> 00:35:15,666 Speaker 1: not only is a testament to the teams that he's 708 00:35:15,666 --> 00:35:18,666 Speaker 1: played on and his ability as football ability, but yeah, 709 00:35:18,706 --> 00:35:24,146 Speaker 1: it's the longevity. Man with three seasons. Nobody does that. 710 00:35:24,146 --> 00:35:26,826 Speaker 1: That wasn't even the thing. He's playing alongside guys that 711 00:35:26,906 --> 00:35:30,826 Speaker 1: weren't even born when he first started playing. Um, in 712 00:35:30,826 --> 00:35:33,106 Speaker 1: the in the National Football and I started playing football, 713 00:35:33,226 --> 00:35:35,986 Speaker 1: But in the NFL when he first started playing, they 714 00:35:36,026 --> 00:35:39,666 Speaker 1: weren't even born. And again, being the greatest winner is 715 00:35:40,186 --> 00:35:42,106 Speaker 1: a bad thing. And I don't want it just to 716 00:35:42,146 --> 00:35:44,426 Speaker 1: seem like I'm knocking Tom Brady or anything like that. 717 00:35:44,466 --> 00:35:47,546 Speaker 1: I just think that when I compare him, I'm talking 718 00:35:47,546 --> 00:35:50,586 Speaker 1: about the quarterback position and the demands and things that 719 00:35:50,626 --> 00:35:53,706 Speaker 1: are associated with the quarterback position. I just put him 720 00:35:53,746 --> 00:35:56,786 Speaker 1: a little bit of a notcher two behind Peyton Manning 721 00:35:57,026 --> 00:35:59,546 Speaker 1: the attention Siper Bowl appearances, by the way, twice as 722 00:35:59,586 --> 00:36:02,826 Speaker 1: many as any other quarterback in NFL history. The Super 723 00:36:02,866 --> 00:36:08,106 Speaker 1: Bowl completions two and seventy seven the season. Yeah, he's 724 00:36:08,106 --> 00:36:10,546 Speaker 1: got more completions in the Super Bowl than any other 725 00:36:10,586 --> 00:36:15,546 Speaker 1: player has attempts paint Manning by the way times it's crazy, 726 00:36:15,666 --> 00:36:17,426 Speaker 1: man And again, like, I don't know if we're gonna 727 00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:21,146 Speaker 1: see another quarterback played this long. I mean just simply 728 00:36:21,146 --> 00:36:23,426 Speaker 1: because I do think that you know when the quarterback 729 00:36:23,466 --> 00:36:25,386 Speaker 1: because they make so much money. When you look in 730 00:36:25,466 --> 00:36:27,626 Speaker 1: your bank account, you gotta hunt in fifty million dollars. 731 00:36:27,746 --> 00:36:29,066 Speaker 1: Is hard to get up and go to work. You know, 732 00:36:29,106 --> 00:36:31,466 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get hit up and beat up on every day. 733 00:36:31,466 --> 00:36:33,546 Speaker 1: But I don't know if we'll see a guy played 734 00:36:33,546 --> 00:36:36,586 Speaker 1: this long again. My guess is probably no. You can 735 00:36:36,626 --> 00:36:39,106 Speaker 1: make the argument yes because of nutrition and training and 736 00:36:39,146 --> 00:36:41,026 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I think about some of the 737 00:36:41,026 --> 00:36:43,546 Speaker 1: younger guys and what this position is like. Think about 738 00:36:43,546 --> 00:36:45,946 Speaker 1: Brady's not running around here. We talked about the evolution 739 00:36:45,986 --> 00:36:48,186 Speaker 1: of some of these offenses. These dudes are expected to 740 00:36:48,186 --> 00:36:51,546 Speaker 1: take off these younger quarterbacks. I think to me, that 741 00:36:51,826 --> 00:36:54,986 Speaker 1: screams what we've witnessed even if it's not done, and 742 00:36:55,026 --> 00:36:56,546 Speaker 1: hopefully he keeps on playing. And I don't know if 743 00:36:56,586 --> 00:37:00,226 Speaker 1: it's gonna be with Tampa Bay or not. Hopefully hopefully 744 00:37:00,266 --> 00:37:01,826 Speaker 1: he does because I like watching them out there. But 745 00:37:01,866 --> 00:37:04,586 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever see this. Well, I might 746 00:37:04,626 --> 00:37:06,626 Speaker 1: get in trouble with saying this, but I think Brady 747 00:37:06,706 --> 00:37:09,146 Speaker 1: is the last of the dying breed of the statute quarterback. 748 00:37:09,506 --> 00:37:12,986 Speaker 1: And again, I'm not saying that you have to have 749 00:37:13,026 --> 00:37:16,506 Speaker 1: a runaround guy, but he has to be dynamic. He 750 00:37:16,626 --> 00:37:18,986 Speaker 1: has to be able to be Joe Burrow whisk right, 751 00:37:19,146 --> 00:37:21,906 Speaker 1: avoid a little bit of a pressure kind of scramble 752 00:37:22,026 --> 00:37:24,026 Speaker 1: for five or ten yards to get the first down. 753 00:37:24,106 --> 00:37:25,946 Speaker 1: You have to be able to challenge the defense. Then, 754 00:37:26,186 --> 00:37:28,546 Speaker 1: all right, still to come here on NFL explained, I 755 00:37:28,586 --> 00:37:32,026 Speaker 1: got two more quarterbacks to dissect with you, and maybe 756 00:37:32,026 --> 00:37:34,666 Speaker 1: they'll make some of our listeners goat list. We'll do 757 00:37:34,706 --> 00:37:43,746 Speaker 1: that coming up next. All right, I'm rob we are 758 00:37:43,746 --> 00:37:45,706 Speaker 1: all about the quarterbacks and the greatest of all time. 759 00:37:45,746 --> 00:37:47,826 Speaker 1: I got two more names for you, and then we 760 00:37:47,826 --> 00:37:49,666 Speaker 1: can although you already said to Painton Manning, so I'll 761 00:37:49,706 --> 00:37:51,786 Speaker 1: just gonna pick a little bit later here, Brett far 762 00:37:51,866 --> 00:37:53,786 Speaker 1: I've talked about the numbers, and I said we would 763 00:37:53,786 --> 00:37:57,626 Speaker 1: talk about Aaron Rodgers hard not to four NFL MVP awards, 764 00:37:57,666 --> 00:38:01,506 Speaker 1: second behind your guy in Peyton Manning. Fifty nine thousand 765 00:38:01,586 --> 00:38:05,586 Speaker 1: passing yards, that's in the top ten, seventy five passing touchdowns, 766 00:38:05,586 --> 00:38:07,986 Speaker 1: that's fifth all time. Yes, he's got the Super Bowl 767 00:38:08,266 --> 00:38:10,426 Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl ring. To me, what I think 768 00:38:10,506 --> 00:38:13,106 Speaker 1: is really cool. Fewest interceptions of any player with at 769 00:38:13,186 --> 00:38:16,626 Speaker 1: least three hundred and fifty passing touchdowns. The next closest 770 00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:19,746 Speaker 1: Mattie Ice, Matt Ryan. You know, I think if you 771 00:38:19,786 --> 00:38:21,826 Speaker 1: ask a Green Bay fan, maybe they'll say Aaron Rodgers 772 00:38:21,826 --> 00:38:24,106 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. There's some things when I 773 00:38:24,146 --> 00:38:27,826 Speaker 1: watch him play that just this even mentality, that Tom 774 00:38:27,866 --> 00:38:30,466 Speaker 1: Brady kind of effect. I always think that's really impressive. 775 00:38:30,826 --> 00:38:32,786 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever been a quarterback, and 776 00:38:32,826 --> 00:38:34,586 Speaker 1: maybe you just disagree with me because I know it's 777 00:38:34,586 --> 00:38:38,066 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, but when I watched them play, it always 778 00:38:38,146 --> 00:38:41,306 Speaker 1: looks so freaking easy. It the game looks easier to 779 00:38:41,346 --> 00:38:44,586 Speaker 1: me to Aaron Rodgers than any quarterback I've ever seen play. Yeah, 780 00:38:44,626 --> 00:38:47,866 Speaker 1: he may have one of the top armed talents and 781 00:38:47,866 --> 00:38:49,786 Speaker 1: guys I want to When I say armed talent, I 782 00:38:49,826 --> 00:38:52,386 Speaker 1: mean being able to throw from different arm angles, having 783 00:38:52,426 --> 00:38:54,746 Speaker 1: the big arm to be able to push it down field. 784 00:38:54,746 --> 00:38:57,106 Speaker 1: We've seen all the hill Mary's from an Aaron Rodgers, 785 00:38:57,146 --> 00:39:00,026 Speaker 1: the accuracy, ball placement, all of those. That's what I'm 786 00:39:00,026 --> 00:39:02,706 Speaker 1: talking about when I say armed talent and Aaron Rodgers. 787 00:39:03,026 --> 00:39:05,346 Speaker 1: There isn't an arm angle. There isn't a past. There 788 00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:08,266 Speaker 1: isn't a defender who can get their arms in the 789 00:39:08,386 --> 00:39:11,306 Speaker 1: way to stop Aaron Rodgers from completing the past if 790 00:39:11,306 --> 00:39:14,426 Speaker 1: he's trying to do that. I mean, there's a lot 791 00:39:14,466 --> 00:39:17,946 Speaker 1: to say a part Aaron Rodgers. I think sometimes he 792 00:39:17,986 --> 00:39:21,026 Speaker 1: doesn't get put into the Greatest of All Time conversation 793 00:39:21,146 --> 00:39:23,146 Speaker 1: just based off of kind of some of his recent 794 00:39:23,306 --> 00:39:25,986 Speaker 1: things with the media, you know, retiring and not retlying, 795 00:39:26,026 --> 00:39:28,986 Speaker 1: all those types of things. But uh, to only have 796 00:39:29,226 --> 00:39:31,866 Speaker 1: a hundred five interceptions through as many years as he's 797 00:39:31,866 --> 00:39:34,426 Speaker 1: played and as many times if they've thrown the football 798 00:39:34,466 --> 00:39:36,746 Speaker 1: as many times if they've lived in Green Bay, of 799 00:39:36,826 --> 00:39:40,666 Speaker 1: moving the offense just through his arm, that's pretty impressive. 800 00:39:40,666 --> 00:39:42,666 Speaker 1: And yeah, you can't have the go conversation without talking 801 00:39:42,706 --> 00:39:45,306 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers as well. I will say this though, 802 00:39:45,546 --> 00:39:48,226 Speaker 1: MS I believe when I modern on it, I mean 803 00:39:48,306 --> 00:39:51,666 Speaker 1: like this generation, the Patrick Mahomes, the Josh Allen's, the 804 00:39:52,426 --> 00:39:57,306 Speaker 1: those guys. I do believe this generation is heavily influenced 805 00:39:57,306 --> 00:39:59,986 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. You can see his game in all 806 00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:02,666 Speaker 1: of them. You mentioned Patrick Mahomes. He's the guy that 807 00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:04,906 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about here. He's twenty seven years old. 808 00:40:05,346 --> 00:40:08,306 Speaker 1: He's not in the goat conversation right now, quite honestly, 809 00:40:08,346 --> 00:40:09,906 Speaker 1: just because of his age. He hasn't done there. But 810 00:40:09,946 --> 00:40:12,346 Speaker 1: he's on his way. He's already got an m VP Award, 811 00:40:12,386 --> 00:40:13,986 Speaker 1: he's got a Super Bowl win, he's been a Super 812 00:40:14,026 --> 00:40:16,066 Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. I'm not even gonna get into 813 00:40:16,106 --> 00:40:18,546 Speaker 1: the numbers because they're not necessarily going to compare because 814 00:40:18,546 --> 00:40:20,866 Speaker 1: he hasn't played long enough here. But we talked about 815 00:40:20,866 --> 00:40:23,706 Speaker 1: the magic of Mahomes. He's one of the special players 816 00:40:23,706 --> 00:40:25,946 Speaker 1: that this league has of this generation here, right, Like 817 00:40:25,986 --> 00:40:27,986 Speaker 1: we've heard Brady and Rogers say, hey, that next group, 818 00:40:28,146 --> 00:40:31,346 Speaker 1: it's pretty damn good, and my Homes is there. If 819 00:40:31,386 --> 00:40:34,026 Speaker 1: I said to you in ten years you and I 820 00:40:34,066 --> 00:40:36,786 Speaker 1: are still working together, knock on alright, that's glass, But 821 00:40:37,106 --> 00:40:39,786 Speaker 1: knock on wood, we're still working together. We're doing this podcast, 822 00:40:39,826 --> 00:40:43,106 Speaker 1: we do another one of these versions. Is Patrick Mahomes 823 00:40:43,106 --> 00:40:47,026 Speaker 1: going to be the goat? Mm hmm if Andy Reid 824 00:40:47,466 --> 00:40:50,826 Speaker 1: stays around for that long too, Yeah, I think I 825 00:40:50,826 --> 00:40:53,186 Speaker 1: don't think it'll be a question. I mean, the rate 826 00:40:53,466 --> 00:40:57,266 Speaker 1: at which he's putting up these numbers, the growth in 827 00:40:57,386 --> 00:41:00,186 Speaker 1: his game. I've seen him gone from you know, not 828 00:41:00,226 --> 00:41:02,706 Speaker 1: being able to just check the ball down to now 829 00:41:02,866 --> 00:41:05,266 Speaker 1: you know, they're functioning. Right, they're being very efficient as 830 00:41:05,306 --> 00:41:08,066 Speaker 1: an offense, and he's hitting the right receiver almost every 831 00:41:08,066 --> 00:41:11,546 Speaker 1: single time. Right. But I will say this, it's tough 832 00:41:11,626 --> 00:41:15,746 Speaker 1: to anticipate the huge numbers again if he doesn't have 833 00:41:15,786 --> 00:41:17,626 Speaker 1: Andy Rey. And I can't wait to see him in 834 00:41:17,666 --> 00:41:21,146 Speaker 1: the playoffs without Tyrikill. I want to see that because 835 00:41:21,466 --> 00:41:23,786 Speaker 1: tyri Kill is one of those special players as well. Okay, 836 00:41:23,826 --> 00:41:26,146 Speaker 1: you bring the players perspective, like the guy who actually 837 00:41:26,226 --> 00:41:28,546 Speaker 1: did it on the field. I just bring the talking 838 00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:32,706 Speaker 1: deal and the numbers from a math perspective. I didn't 839 00:41:32,706 --> 00:41:34,706 Speaker 1: even crunch these numbers. I love how I'm taking credit 840 00:41:34,746 --> 00:41:40,506 Speaker 1: for crunching projection numbers. Whatever. But how about this. Our 841 00:41:40,586 --> 00:41:43,066 Speaker 1: our crew is amazing. They actually did some of the 842 00:41:43,146 --> 00:41:46,386 Speaker 1: numbers for us based on projections five years as a 843 00:41:46,426 --> 00:41:49,386 Speaker 1: starting quarterback thus far and what we could see. So, 844 00:41:49,426 --> 00:41:52,306 Speaker 1: if my Homes plays thirteen more seasons, which would put 845 00:41:52,346 --> 00:41:55,186 Speaker 1: him at forty By the way, the numbers project out 846 00:41:55,226 --> 00:41:58,226 Speaker 1: to eighties six thousand, five hundred passing yards and six 847 00:41:58,666 --> 00:42:02,386 Speaker 1: eight six passing touchdowns, it's fewer passing yards than Brady, 848 00:42:02,426 --> 00:42:05,746 Speaker 1: but more touchdowns. If my Homes places fifteen more seasons, 849 00:42:05,746 --> 00:42:07,786 Speaker 1: that put him at forty two. Come on, now, this 850 00:42:07,906 --> 00:42:12,266 Speaker 1: is just crazy town. The numbers nine thousand passing yards, 851 00:42:12,306 --> 00:42:15,426 Speaker 1: seven hundred and sixty two passing touchdowns, that would be 852 00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:18,466 Speaker 1: almost seven thousand more yards than Brady and a hundred 853 00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:21,626 Speaker 1: and third team war touchdowns. So it does give you 854 00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:25,346 Speaker 1: some context on the trajectory of his career. Um, did 855 00:42:25,346 --> 00:42:29,066 Speaker 1: they crunch his bank account to how much? Did he 856 00:42:29,146 --> 00:42:32,146 Speaker 1: make three billion through fifteen years after all of that too? 857 00:42:32,186 --> 00:42:36,826 Speaker 1: I mean jeez, But yeah again, if Andy Reid Eric 858 00:42:36,866 --> 00:42:39,786 Speaker 1: being of those play callers are there, man, uh yeah, 859 00:42:39,826 --> 00:42:42,946 Speaker 1: this run can go for a long time. Alright. One 860 00:42:42,986 --> 00:42:45,506 Speaker 1: more thing, actually two more things for context here that 861 00:42:45,586 --> 00:42:48,946 Speaker 1: I want to position for people listening to this podcast. 862 00:42:49,586 --> 00:42:51,626 Speaker 1: We always do. It's talk radio. I spent a long 863 00:42:51,626 --> 00:42:53,306 Speaker 1: time my career doing talk radio. Like I get it, 864 00:42:53,346 --> 00:42:56,066 Speaker 1: Like summertime comes around, you need some topics. So greatest 865 00:42:56,066 --> 00:42:58,186 Speaker 1: of all time you have all these debates here. The 866 00:42:58,266 --> 00:43:02,786 Speaker 1: generational thing is it's hard to compare across generations. Our 867 00:43:02,866 --> 00:43:05,266 Speaker 1: team try to build out some stats that compare some 868 00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:07,906 Speaker 1: of these guys within a generation to see how much 869 00:43:07,946 --> 00:43:12,306 Speaker 1: better they were than their peers. From twenty two, the 870 00:43:12,346 --> 00:43:15,666 Speaker 1: average passing yards in a game was two hundred and 871 00:43:15,826 --> 00:43:20,106 Speaker 1: thirty and a half. Patrick Mahomes average three hundred three 872 00:43:20,186 --> 00:43:23,226 Speaker 1: yards a game over that span, so that's almost seventy 873 00:43:23,306 --> 00:43:26,866 Speaker 1: three yards over the average. Drew Brees by the way, 874 00:43:26,906 --> 00:43:31,226 Speaker 1: fifty seven yards over the average, Peyton Manning fifty four 875 00:43:31,346 --> 00:43:35,746 Speaker 1: yards over the average, Damn Marino almost fifty eight point eight, 876 00:43:35,786 --> 00:43:40,226 Speaker 1: Brady forty four over the average, Rogers thirty over the average, 877 00:43:40,306 --> 00:43:44,306 Speaker 1: Far nine over the average, and then Joe Montana ten 878 00:43:44,666 --> 00:43:46,946 Speaker 1: over the average, and Rob I got one more for you, 879 00:43:46,946 --> 00:43:50,346 Speaker 1: a completion percentage over NFL average in their career. Joe 880 00:43:50,346 --> 00:43:52,946 Speaker 1: Montana when he was playing in his era, the average 881 00:43:53,066 --> 00:43:56,826 Speaker 1: NFL completion percentage was fifty. He was at sixty three 882 00:43:56,866 --> 00:44:01,146 Speaker 1: so his average percentage was plus seven point two. Breeze, 883 00:44:01,746 --> 00:44:05,226 Speaker 1: he was plus six point three, Manning a little over five, 884 00:44:05,466 --> 00:44:08,106 Speaker 1: fare of a little over three. Rodgers was at three, 885 00:44:08,266 --> 00:44:11,226 Speaker 1: Marino at two point eight, Brady at two point eight, 886 00:44:11,226 --> 00:44:14,586 Speaker 1: and my Homes at two point too. So you found 887 00:44:14,586 --> 00:44:16,786 Speaker 1: something pretty interesting when you were going through those numbers. 888 00:44:17,106 --> 00:44:20,186 Speaker 1: The average completion percentage has been going up over time. 889 00:44:20,226 --> 00:44:22,546 Speaker 1: The QB has been getting better. Yeah, the the QB 890 00:44:22,706 --> 00:44:25,426 Speaker 1: position has evolved that they've been getting better. Again, you 891 00:44:25,466 --> 00:44:28,826 Speaker 1: look at that Joe Montana, the NFL average completion percentage 892 00:44:30,186 --> 00:44:32,306 Speaker 1: right like like that's not that wouldn't be good in 893 00:44:32,306 --> 00:44:35,866 Speaker 1: today's football. You look at Patrick Mahomes NFL average sixty 894 00:44:36,666 --> 00:44:41,546 Speaker 1: almost jumps. So just again, just the quarterback position in 895 00:44:41,586 --> 00:44:44,266 Speaker 1: the passing game in general is getting better and they're 896 00:44:44,266 --> 00:44:46,186 Speaker 1: getting coach better as well. All Right, I threw this 897 00:44:46,226 --> 00:44:47,986 Speaker 1: out there at the top of the show. I continue 898 00:44:48,106 --> 00:44:50,826 Speaker 1: to mention it, and here's the time. This is the 899 00:44:50,906 --> 00:44:53,786 Speaker 1: number that really matters the most when it comes to 900 00:44:54,066 --> 00:44:56,266 Speaker 1: the go. Touched on this a little bit before about 901 00:44:56,306 --> 00:45:00,946 Speaker 1: Joe Montana the team around him. That is important. Defense, baby, 902 00:45:00,986 --> 00:45:04,306 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the defense. We looked at how often 903 00:45:04,426 --> 00:45:07,346 Speaker 1: each quarterback the ones that we discussed had a top 904 00:45:07,386 --> 00:45:13,266 Speaker 1: ten defense, and Rob Brady had top ten defenses seventeen times, 905 00:45:13,986 --> 00:45:17,546 Speaker 1: seven more than Joe Montana, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers 906 00:45:17,586 --> 00:45:21,226 Speaker 1: only had three and Damn Marino four. So to me, 907 00:45:21,546 --> 00:45:24,786 Speaker 1: while we can talk about, you know, the statistics, when 908 00:45:24,786 --> 00:45:27,306 Speaker 1: it comes to what these guys did individually, having a 909 00:45:27,306 --> 00:45:29,946 Speaker 1: pretty damn good defense, that to me might be the 910 00:45:30,026 --> 00:45:32,426 Speaker 1: complete differentiator for all this stuff. I think it is 911 00:45:32,466 --> 00:45:35,546 Speaker 1: defense was championships. That's an old accident that we always say. 912 00:45:35,546 --> 00:45:39,506 Speaker 1: But I also think we have to kind of wrap 913 00:45:39,546 --> 00:45:42,706 Speaker 1: our minds around just like whenever you have And again, 914 00:45:43,306 --> 00:45:45,146 Speaker 1: some of these quarterbacks, like Tom Brady, when he was 915 00:45:45,186 --> 00:45:48,066 Speaker 1: first drafted, nobody knew he was gonna be what he was. 916 00:45:48,106 --> 00:45:50,506 Speaker 1: But some of these high draft picks or guys that 917 00:45:50,546 --> 00:45:54,346 Speaker 1: are with these high expectations, these big time physical attributions, 918 00:45:54,666 --> 00:45:59,226 Speaker 1: oftentimes the teams built around them aren't great because for 919 00:45:59,306 --> 00:46:00,986 Speaker 1: them to get a chance to get that person, they 920 00:46:00,986 --> 00:46:02,786 Speaker 1: were the first pick in the draft or whatever, and 921 00:46:02,826 --> 00:46:05,106 Speaker 1: the team around them wasn't so good. And so when 922 00:46:05,106 --> 00:46:07,746 Speaker 1: you look at it, uh like a Tom Brady, it 923 00:46:07,826 --> 00:46:10,346 Speaker 1: makes sense he was a six round pick so they 924 00:46:10,546 --> 00:46:12,506 Speaker 1: actually had all the they had to build a team 925 00:46:12,546 --> 00:46:14,626 Speaker 1: around him because they didn't know he was gonna be 926 00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:17,106 Speaker 1: that good. But it's pretty good. I didn't know Joe 927 00:46:17,106 --> 00:46:19,466 Speaker 1: Montana had a top defense ten times. I did not 928 00:46:19,586 --> 00:46:21,746 Speaker 1: know that, which, by the way, that ten times, that's 929 00:46:21,986 --> 00:46:24,506 Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of his seasons as a starter he 930 00:46:24,546 --> 00:46:26,906 Speaker 1: had a top ten defense. Brady by the way, one 931 00:46:26,946 --> 00:46:33,146 Speaker 1: percent of his seasons a top ten Defensemo Manning, by 932 00:46:33,186 --> 00:46:37,466 Speaker 1: the way of the time, Marino God, I feel bad 933 00:46:37,546 --> 00:46:41,466 Speaker 1: for Dan Rodgers twenty and then Drew Brees the worst. 934 00:46:41,906 --> 00:46:44,746 Speaker 1: Only fifteen point eight percent of his seasons as a 935 00:46:44,746 --> 00:46:47,146 Speaker 1: starter he had a top ten defense. Well, Drew Brees 936 00:46:47,186 --> 00:46:50,146 Speaker 1: probably made money in all these quarterbacks, you know what 937 00:46:50,226 --> 00:46:52,626 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So again, you're pulling the money putting it 938 00:46:52,666 --> 00:46:54,466 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Can't build a team around you. That's 939 00:46:54,546 --> 00:46:56,586 Speaker 1: kind of how those things work themselves. Unless he got 940 00:46:56,586 --> 00:46:59,146 Speaker 1: that TV money too on the back. I'm trying to 941 00:46:59,146 --> 00:47:01,146 Speaker 1: get some of that TV money, you know what I'm saying. 942 00:47:01,266 --> 00:47:03,266 Speaker 1: All Right, we'd love to hear from you guys as well. 943 00:47:03,266 --> 00:47:05,026 Speaker 1: I know we continue to ask for questions on a 944 00:47:05,026 --> 00:47:07,626 Speaker 1: maw back episod. I'd rather this. If you like this episode, 945 00:47:07,746 --> 00:47:10,146 Speaker 1: share it on social media. I would love to see 946 00:47:10,426 --> 00:47:12,706 Speaker 1: some of your guys comments on who do you think 947 00:47:12,746 --> 00:47:15,266 Speaker 1: the goat is at that quarterback spot. Can't thank you 948 00:47:15,266 --> 00:47:17,226 Speaker 1: guys enough for listening, and of course we've got some 949 00:47:17,226 --> 00:47:19,626 Speaker 1: more episodes down the road of NFL explained