WEBVTT - The NBA Trade Deadline Approaches

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Trystal Quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, it's trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>but like the OKC Lakers game last night, it gets

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<v Speaker 2>hijacked by Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 1>We also get into Lebron's historic night.

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<v Speaker 2>We dig straight into Christmas in February for NBA fans

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<v Speaker 2>gets off to a hot start with Kyrie Irving getting

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<v Speaker 2>moved to the maps. We break down the trade and

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<v Speaker 2>it's aftermath, plus we'll get into a ton of other trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Rumors for around the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Get right into it, Nick, because shit is moving fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Do me a favor and drop that generic ass beat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the entire association, let's be honest, stop dead in

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<v Speaker 2>their tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night for a truly historic event.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James is now the all time leading scorer in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, having just surpassed Kareem with a I would

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<v Speaker 2>call it a mid thirty eight point performance because he

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<v Speaker 2>was really supposed to get forty for me because I

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<v Speaker 2>had money on it. But you know, I digress. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>after he broke the record, he pretty much did absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, you know who am I? Who am I

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<v Speaker 2>to make fun of the fact that it turned into

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<v Speaker 2>an entire fanfare on the court.

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<v Speaker 1>There's pictures, babies are getting kissed.

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<v Speaker 2>You got Anthony Davis sitting off to the side, which

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to in a second, but just a bucket

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<v Speaker 2>short of the record. It looked like Lebron was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to back down for a skyhook, which would have been fitting,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead Patented's step back mid range. Kobe behind the

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<v Speaker 2>free throw line, hit nothing but net. Everyone goes nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Lebron now greatest score in NBA history. People

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to downplay this. I think he's better at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight than Hall of famers were in their prime.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much facts, showing no sign of slowing down.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time he hangs up the sneakers, he's probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna put so much distance between him and Kareem it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be another forty fifty years before anyone ever sniffs the

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<v Speaker 2>record again. And then there'll be a fourth generation of

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James Is in the NBA. It'll be Lebron, these

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<v Speaker 2>kids will be in the NBA. A couple of interesting

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<v Speaker 2>things to get into before my take. First, everybody is

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Anthony Davis and his reaction right now, he

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<v Speaker 2>was on the bench during which is like pretty common

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<v Speaker 2>for Anthony Davis. During the record breaking play and before

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<v Speaker 2>Braun took the shot, he sits down like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the bus at the stop after a ten

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<v Speaker 2>hour shift. Like it's just where was he during the celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>He was nowhere to be found. He was sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>with no emotion on his face, looking I don't know where.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that there was any shade being

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<v Speaker 2>thrown at Lebron James, because I'm sure that there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reaction was very weird. It was very odd.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what to make of it. I have

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<v Speaker 2>really nothing I can speculate that was happening. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's probably a product of everyone being pretty tired

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<v Speaker 2>of the chase by now. We had the Lebron chase

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<v Speaker 2>meter on the screen. Second thing, second thing Kareem didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even like. Kaream didn't feel like he was that excited

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<v Speaker 2>by that is wearing his captain jacket. His reaction very muted.

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<v Speaker 2>Like muted's probably a very generous way to putting it.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't like Lebron. We know that he doesn't. He

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<v Speaker 2>said things about Lebron that haven't been exactly generous. This

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<v Speaker 2>was all on video. You could see it. Kareem is

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful rider. He penned a great piece about what

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<v Speaker 2>the record meant to him.

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<v Speaker 1>YadA YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

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<v Speaker 2>He also explains why he's not sad that he no

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<v Speaker 2>longer holds the record, which we know is false. Is

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<v Speaker 2>at if I won a billion dollars in a lottery

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty nine years later someone won two billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>his winning in no way affects my winning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's that's facts right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people's success do not detract from your individual success.

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem, probably the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most unstoppable offensive player in history, has not suited up

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<v Speaker 2>in a few decades, so two generations of hoops fans

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<v Speaker 2>only know him through YouTube clips and him throwing shade

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<v Speaker 2>up on James and winning time.

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<v Speaker 1>Having the record broken.

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<v Speaker 2>Very inevitable when you have Lebron have a longevity of

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<v Speaker 2>his career as much as he did. Just like when

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<v Speaker 2>Krem broke the record in nineteen eighty four, it did

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<v Speaker 2>not take away from the greatness of wil Chamberlain either,

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<v Speaker 2>the previous record holder. There's room in the pantheon for

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<v Speaker 2>all the greats together. Anyone who questions that Lebron doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>belong there, well, like Jaji Riddick said, you just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to the trade deadline. Whoa, whoa, It

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<v Speaker 1>happened fast. It happened so much faster than anybody thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody could have predicted.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie Irving, Kyrie Irving the Dallas Maverick. Wow, we are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what just happened. The timeline of

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<v Speaker 2>it is insane. Kyrie demands a trade Friday, February third.

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<v Speaker 2>By Sunday afternoon, he's in Dallas in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most shocking trades in recent memory. In those seventy two hours,

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<v Speaker 2>so much happened. Let's break that down from the moment

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<v Speaker 2>that the news broke that he was asking out, presumably

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<v Speaker 2>because then Nets wouldn'tive him any money, which why would you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been unavailable. Speculation goes wild. Teams are rumored to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the Kyrie mix. Were the usual suspects, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Purple and Gold, the Lakers, the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>The Suns.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the Heat were really involved, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were sort of mentioned. And then the dark horses

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<v Speaker 2>like the Mavericks, and the Pelicans. Turns out only four

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<v Speaker 2>teams actually made offers. The Lakers were the presumed front runners. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Braun and Kyrie have talked about reuniting. They've made no

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<v Speaker 2>bones about wanting to play again together. The Lakers apparently

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<v Speaker 2>offered Russell Westbrook more on this later, Austin Reeves, Max

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<v Speaker 2>Christi and two first rounders. I think the first rounder

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<v Speaker 2>element is a little bit muddled. It could be one,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be two. The twenty seven twenty nine solid

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<v Speaker 2>The Clippers apparently offered Terrence Man Luke Canard a first

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<v Speaker 2>and two first round pick swaps. Kind of meh, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're the Nets, I like Terrence Man fine. Luke Canard

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<v Speaker 2>is trash, He's horrible, So that trade made no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>The Suns, this is where it gets really interesting. They

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<v Speaker 2>offered Chris Paul, Jay Crowder and some first round picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty intriguing except for the fact that Chris Paul has

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<v Speaker 2>fallen off of a cliff. Paul right intriguing, And then

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Say said, I was like, nah, I'm good, I'm good,

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<v Speaker 2>so he fast tracked the traded Dallas that was finalized

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<v Speaker 2>as follows.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie and Mark Keith.

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<v Speaker 2>Morris for Spencer Dinwoodie, which is like a wish version

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<v Speaker 2>of Kyrie Irving, who already played for the Nets. Dorian

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<v Speaker 2>Finney Smith, one of the best perimeter on ball defenders

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<v Speaker 2>in the league, and two second round picks I think,

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<v Speaker 2>a first round pick, two and a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating thing. According to those who are connected with the story,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie was never going to get a long term contract

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<v Speaker 2>from the Maps, and anonymous source reports no one in

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas will come out and say it in those terms,

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<v Speaker 2>but Irving is potentially just a rental lord, folks. I

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<v Speaker 2>have thoughts. I have a lot of thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, super excited to see this fit. People

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, oh, Kyrie, Luca, they're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to play together.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't Those people don't listen to them. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>know basketball. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just watching Sports Center and listening, and it takes

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<v Speaker 2>and then regurgitating takes. Kyrie playing off ball is excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>He is elite at that. Kyrie probably the theoretical player

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<v Speaker 2>that's always in play. But one thing you never question

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<v Speaker 2>is his work ethic and his ability to ball out

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<v Speaker 2>in crucial moments. He's a top ten offensive player in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. He's a top seventy five player in all

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<v Speaker 2>of history, and he will play really well with Luca

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<v Speaker 2>if he continues to come off ball like he did

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<v Speaker 2>with Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 1>In the time that he was in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>This does bring up a ton of questions like is

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie going to be the dinwitty two point zero? Is

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<v Speaker 2>he gonna hit sort of those game tying game winning shots?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that still gonna go to Luca? Uh? This could

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<v Speaker 2>be very fun to watch. To me, he's not a

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<v Speaker 2>selfish player. He's a player who can get guys involved.

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<v Speaker 2>He can play, make, he can do a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cavs won a championship with Kyrie Irving coming off ball,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's built in the lab for playoff time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he is. He is winning time in human form.

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<v Speaker 2>My second point, does anybody feel like it's weird that

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Cuban makes this move? They know that Luca probably

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<v Speaker 2>is going to ask out if they don't do something.

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<v Speaker 2>This is sort of a roll of the dice move, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like kind of like what they did with

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<v Speaker 2>russ and with Polinka. You have to sort of appease

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<v Speaker 2>the player that you know needs to be appeased, possibly

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<v Speaker 2>putting yourself in a worse situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's that's really really tough, which brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>my third point, because I think this is a rental.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one hundred percent this is a rental.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not believe that Kyrie is in the MAVs

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<v Speaker 2>uniform next year whatsoever, Dimwittie and Dori Infinny Smith. Is

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<v Speaker 2>a very steep price to pay for a rental for

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<v Speaker 2>thirty games, right like he is he is. I firmly

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<v Speaker 2>believe that Kyrie will be a Laker next year. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this was, in terms of the Lakers, probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most savvy things that Kyrie has done in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>So he asked for a trade out in the summer, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, nah, we're good, We're not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you have no trade value, nobody wants you whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just not going to happen, right, not. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>did the vaccination thing, you got hardened move to ask

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<v Speaker 2>out you uh, well, zero controversy for thirty games. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know his stepmom who's his agent, saying to him,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all you have to do, and you can ask

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<v Speaker 2>out and get whatever you want, which is exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He bawled out.

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<v Speaker 2>He as that young woman said, who asked rus that

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<v Speaker 2>question which I'm going to use forever now, which is

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<v Speaker 2>he uses his impressive dribbling skills to successfully fake out

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<v Speaker 2>his opponents multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth is Kyrie did that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good at basketball, he can hit clench shots, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's not stirring anything up ever since the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>that he stirred up. You can now use that as

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<v Speaker 2>leverage knowing that their teams are going to be very desperate,

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<v Speaker 2>desperate to make a move because this is a very

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<v Speaker 2>muddled west a team where a Westwards very mediocre. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>can get in and anybody can make a run. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're the MAVs, you know that Kyrie is an

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade over Spencer Dinwiddie. Like, this is not petulance, This

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<v Speaker 2>is not Kyrie throwing a fit. This is him saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I need to do in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of this organization.

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<v Speaker 1>The clock is ticking. He forces the Nett hand.

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<v Speaker 2>He does it down the stretch where they have no

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<v Speaker 2>time to really pivot and figure things out and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, you know, he's gone fourth. The Nets

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<v Speaker 2>did get theoretically a little bit better, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>did get not as much as probably they could have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten for him if he was Donovan Mitchell like scandal free.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie's not scandal free though, that's where we're at. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not he's not de Jonte Murray, he's not Donovan, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not Rudy Gobert.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a better player than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Theoretically he should be worth more than the four first

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<v Speaker 2>round picks it took to get them right, but his

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<v Speaker 2>stock had fallen so low after everything that he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>He was virtually untradable at one point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what the bottom line is this, The Nets traded

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie a star for two good players, good players. Spencer's

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<v Speaker 2>a good player. He's played for the Nets before. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's a diet Kyrie. He has handles, he can shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of the most clutch players in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs last year. We saw that when they went to

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<v Speaker 2>the Western Conference finals. He hit some big, big threes

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<v Speaker 2>down the stretch. Drian Finney Smith probably one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best defense wings. So you've got Katie, You've got Dorian

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<v Speaker 2>Finny Smith, and you've got Nick Claxton. Those three guys

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be able to defend. You're gonna have probably

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<v Speaker 2>the best front court defensively of any team in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>And they get a first rounder and two second rounders

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. So you kind of made lemonade at

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<v Speaker 2>a Lemons now. Very solid deal for the Nets, considering

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<v Speaker 2>that Kyrie has been a disaster. I think also the

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<v Speaker 2>Nets need to make another deal. They need to figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Maybe you figure out a way to get

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<v Speaker 2>og Anobi, Maybe you find a way to get Pascal Siakam.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what the new Tea leaves say.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll probably have to give up Nick Claxton for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still don't hate it. And also to show

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<v Speaker 2>Katie you're not tearing it down to the studs. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a possibility he gets moved and wants to be moved

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't show him that he is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on a team that's gonna win. Right, this is now,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact really is Sham's reported Kyrie asking for

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<v Speaker 2>a trade now makes it so that so many more

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<v Speaker 2>teams are asking about Kevin Durant than they were about Kyrie.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to know, Hey, is he on the move? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get him for nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get him for just a couple of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the three first round picks and Dyson Daniels who knows

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<v Speaker 2>more on that later. By the way, Kyrie left for

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<v Speaker 2>three games and Cam Thomas exploded, So this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really fun to watch Cam Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>He's crazy. He's had more than forty points three straight games.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, insane, we do went off for forty four against

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<v Speaker 2>the Wizards, forty seven against the Clippers, and had forty

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<v Speaker 2>three last night. So dude's going to be a star.

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<v Speaker 2>First player in NBA history to have three forty point

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<v Speaker 2>games at his age.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Ben Simmon's not getting talked about enough. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been trash. He's maybe the most untradable player in the

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<v Speaker 2>league right now. As for Dallas, they are rolling the

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<v Speaker 2>dice and Jason Kidd thinks that they can fix Kyrie.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie his mentor his idol is Jason Kidd obviously had

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship with the front office executive Nico Harrison, who

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<v Speaker 2>came from a Nike where Kyrie had his signature shoe,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had a long standing relationship that Kyrie since

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie got into the league, and you know that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they said.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Kidds said, Hey, we have a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>He's all about basketball, he wants to win, he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to be coached, and this is a great opportunity for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kyrie has great things to say about Luca. He

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<v Speaker 2>loves Luca, and before this trade was even possible, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what he said about him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think first we got to discuss just how long

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<v Speaker 3>he's been playing professional basketball. I think it's been since

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<v Speaker 3>like fourteen fifteen years old, so he's used to seeing

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<v Speaker 3>so many different defenses, so many difer you know, different

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<v Speaker 3>roles that he's played shore overseas, and now that he's

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<v Speaker 3>in the NBA, I mean, you just see him. He

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<v Speaker 3>plays at an incredible pace. He makes great decisions. Most

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<v Speaker 3>offense goes through him, and he takes his time a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and he gets to the free throw line. So he

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<v Speaker 3>maximizes on all the rules of the game of basketball

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<v Speaker 3>and uses it to advantage and all the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the guys around him play their role really well. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're a good team and they're only getting better. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad we got to see a team like this

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<v Speaker 3>that you know down the line, the continuity that they

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<v Speaker 3>have in the trust because they've been through certain battles,

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<v Speaker 3>you can see it and they don't panic. That's just

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<v Speaker 3>good to see traits of a great team.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean this is gonna be very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that Kyrie is a Maverick for probably twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five games, and if he doesn't sign from them with

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<v Speaker 2>them in the offseason, which I don't think he will,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a hefty price to pay for a rental unit.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he keeps Luca happy, and that's what Cuban wants,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>And also for the Lakers, why would you do that

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<v Speaker 1>deal if you thought Kyrie would be there anyway for

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<v Speaker 1>you in free agency? Why you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you pay all those first round picks and

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<v Speaker 2>your young players if you think you're gonna get Kyrie anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>And so we'll talk about this in a bit, but listen,

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James is not happy about it. So the Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Show never disappoints, which we'll talk about in a second

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<v Speaker 2>up next.

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<v Speaker 1>In related news, stephen A is trending.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of a fight over Kyrie that occurred over first

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<v Speaker 2>take with Jay Williams. People are losing their minds. If

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard it, it is tremendous. Here are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the audio Daily News.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>We put a different kind of onus on our athletes

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<v Speaker 4>than we do and you may mention that on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't deny that. First off, I'm not the one.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't deny that I'm being sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't deny that.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're the one that seemed very emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Jack, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Not sitting up here on National TV absolving Kyrie Irving

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<v Speaker 4>of every every decision. I'm not going back and reaccounting

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<v Speaker 4>every decision. I'm just saying how it's interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It just carries such a bigger momentum, in particular with you, Abody.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I would what I would ask you is.

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<v Speaker 5>Do me a favor.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop telling us what you find interesting to just tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Us what you feel. No my job.

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<v Speaker 3>You say I find it interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>You always say that. Say what you're saying? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you say?

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<v Speaker 5>What did I just?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 4>See what am I saying? I just said what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>steven A with you in and I'm not allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>say what I find interesting you are, but like, once again.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to show what's interesting. Hey, thinks you're too

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<v Speaker 1>preoccupied with Kyrie too hard on Kyrie?

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<v Speaker 4>Did I printed printed Kyrie Arvin last week before he

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<v Speaker 4>demanded the trade. We were talking foot Paul, how many

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<v Speaker 4>times have I mentioned Kyrie Arvin over.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't seem to go. I don't seem to me

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<v Speaker 4>the one being triggered right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let's I'm always triggered.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it gets worse from there. This is anybody

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<v Speaker 1>shocked that two former duke players are aligned.

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<v Speaker 2>Dookie's gonna Duke right, that's Jay Williams and and Kyrie Irving. Second,

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<v Speaker 2>stephen A Smith got personal because Jay was hinting at

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<v Speaker 2>something that he wanted to say and wouldn't come out

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<v Speaker 2>with it. Stephen A does come after Kyrie hard and

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<v Speaker 2>they've argued about him before. They've had been very adversarial

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where it feels that they are personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Like discovering I don't know your favorite aunt is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you love her and you guys talk all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a truther.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a truther basically how steven A and j R.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now they feel that same way about one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay feels like steven A is standing up for Dana

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<v Speaker 2>White and Jerry Jones and their improprieties, but will not

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<v Speaker 2>go out of his way to defend Kyrie or at

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<v Speaker 2>least create some nuance or context about Kyrie. And Jay

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<v Speaker 2>is asking why why do you allow that energy for

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie and not for them? And stephen A would say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go after Kyrie more because this is

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<v Speaker 2>a professional thing versus a personal thing, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>many things that Kyrie has done that has hurt his

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<v Speaker 2>team and kept them from winning. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why he got triggered. Daniel White's trans transgressions are personal

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<v Speaker 2>and domestic. Those are societal questions. Kyrie's issues were a

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<v Speaker 2>professional thing that bled into professional lives. Back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting. I would listen to the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you can, because of really what was

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<v Speaker 2>not said steven A was kind of like, I know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're trying to do. You're trying to sneak me

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<v Speaker 2>in front of my audience, and you're not about to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I know that that's what you've been doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that how the culture views me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do not like it. Say what you mean, or

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<v Speaker 2>don't say anything unless you're gonna say it with your

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<v Speaker 2>full chest. And all of this is a reminder that

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<v Speaker 2>there are probably no two more, no more polarizing players

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<v Speaker 2>than Kyrie Irving, even with people who traffic in hot takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, though, Kyrie is not going anyplace, not

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<v Speaker 2>by a long shot. So we're gonna have more of

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<v Speaker 2>these Jay Williams of the stephen A. Smith conversations and altercations,

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<v Speaker 2>unless Jay Williams is not allowed on the show anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>which is definitely possible.

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<v Speaker 1>What would a Kyrie trade be?

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<v Speaker 2>Without checking in on what the newly crowned NBA scoring

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<v Speaker 2>leader Lebron James thought, I want to know what does

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<v Speaker 2>he think about something that did not affect him at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he think about something a trade that did not

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<v Speaker 2>happen that he thought was going to happen for him?

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<v Speaker 2>Because ESPN, through Michael Wilbon, out to interview Lebron James

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<v Speaker 2>one on one to get I don't know, like to

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<v Speaker 2>just get his perspective on the trade, the non trade

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<v Speaker 2>for them and the trade to Boston or to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>So when Kyrie asked out Lebron, this is the timeline,

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron responded by tweeting a crown and a big eye emoji.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious, hilarious. That's like Lebron in Twitter for him,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he is. He's just setting the stage up

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<v Speaker 2>for what he thinks is gonna happen. He's getting excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just have never seen this sit down for

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<v Speaker 2>something that's like a non trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Never seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just Broun candidly came out and said he was disappointed

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<v Speaker 2>that they did not get Kyrie Irving and made sure

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<v Speaker 2>to say that he thought Kyrie Irving and him would

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<v Speaker 2>win championships together, and which is again part of the

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<v Speaker 2>reason that I don't think he's in Dallas long.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what was saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, definitely disappointed. I can't sit here and say I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not disappointed on not being able to land such a talent,

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<v Speaker 5>but someone that I had great chemistry with and know

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<v Speaker 5>I got great chemistry with on the floor that can

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<v Speaker 5>help you win, you know, championships in my mind, in

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<v Speaker 5>my eyes. But my focus is shifted now. My focus

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<v Speaker 5>is shifted back to where it should be, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>this that's this club now and what we have in

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<v Speaker 5>the locker room. These guys quick pivot, quick pivot. It

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<v Speaker 5>don't take me long. It don't take me long. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't I don't get too excited about the possibilities of

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<v Speaker 5>things that can be. I kind of envisioned myself on

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<v Speaker 5>what it can but I don't. I don't invest it

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<v Speaker 5>all the way into until I know what's happening, and

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<v Speaker 5>when it does not happen, I'm back locked in on

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<v Speaker 5>the job at hand. So you know, we had an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>I think our names was out there, the Lakers name

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<v Speaker 5>was out there. We had an opportunity. Didn't happen. We

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<v Speaker 5>move on and we finish the season strong, try to

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<v Speaker 5>get a bid into the postseason, where I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>A bid into the postseason is the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>matters right now. He is just throwing Russell Westbrook under

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<v Speaker 2>the bus because he knows that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the trade for sure, like absolutely was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be in the trade. Bron This is so strange to

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<v Speaker 2>me in this interview because he just never does anything randomly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he just is one of those strategic players.

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<v Speaker 2>He broke the scoring record at home. He made sure

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<v Speaker 2>that things get set in place with Clutch whenever he's dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with Brownie's announcement about where he's going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to college, it's all gonna be done strategically. This interview

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<v Speaker 2>was done strategically. I am disappointed we did not get

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie Irving. I think we can win championships together. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we have great chemistry. I think we still will

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<v Speaker 2>have great chemistry, and I bet I'm moving on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a good teammate, I am a good team player, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are now going to try to get into the

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<v Speaker 2>play in tournament now that we don't have Kyrie Irving.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something very funny. That's just something that you've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen before in history. Is an athlete come out

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<v Speaker 2>and say, Hey, I am mad that we didn't trade

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<v Speaker 2>for this guy. I'm going to do a one on

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<v Speaker 2>one sit down with Mike Wilbon, one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>premier commentators in all of the NBA, who's been in

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<v Speaker 2>this business for a long long time, writes books for players,

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and he's going to come out and see

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<v Speaker 2>me so that I can say I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.679
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get Kyrie. That's wild the.

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers that were smart. I don't think they should have

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<v Speaker 1>done it.

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they should have given up all those pieces,

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<v Speaker 2>Max Christy, Austin Reeves, two first round picks, Russell Westbrook's

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the buck books, whatever it's coming off regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you can use those picks and get Jared

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt and Mike Conley Jr. And Malik Beasley, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can just get Kyrie in the off season for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that it's going to be. I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a two year deal, our a three year deal

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<v Speaker 2>while at like while keeping Max Christy and keeping Austin

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Reeves and who knows what you can do with resigning

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Jared Vanderbilt, who's awesome. He's another good defender who can

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 2>score a little bit. Malik Beasley can score a lot.

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a really good team.

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Or you could have just spent all that for Kyrie

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<v Speaker 2>when you can just get him in the free agency.

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 2>So but with Braun now the scoring record holder, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be fascinating to see if the Lakers do

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<v Speaker 2>anything at the deadline at all. Windhorse just tweeted that

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers have two options, trade Russ and improve marginally

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<v Speaker 2>but screw over their cap space immensely, or keep Russ,

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<v Speaker 2>maintain cat space and signed Kyrie this summer because that's

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<v Speaker 2>where he wants to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think option two is what's happening. Lakers aren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything of the deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>WOJ also just reported that Darvin Ham and Russell Westbrook

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>just got into a heated argument at halftime at the

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<v Speaker 2>OKC game over Russ, apparently lingering on the court after

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>getting pulled. Yikes, how does this change things? Are they

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 2>tired of us?

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, but it's just weird. The whole

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>As Wendy notes, moving Russ would probably be a mistake,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't think that they'll do it. I think

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 2>they have become a more competent franchise. They're just trying

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 2>to fix their incompetence from the past. But the Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Show and their dysfunction never disappoints moving on. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna dissect the entire trade deadline on our next show.

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Keith Smith's gonna come on as well for probably thirty

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes to tell us kind of how it all

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 2>went down. What things didn't happen, et cetera. But I

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<v Speaker 2>did want to address a couple of the rumors floating

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<v Speaker 2>out and give you my opinion ahead of time. So

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>we did have another major trade, a shocking a but

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>we'll call it a buzzy trade. You know, like they

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 2>had to massage this deal in order to make it work,

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>if you know what I mean. So Miami ships Dwayne

0:25:56.240 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Deadman to San Antonio for a bag of chips and

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>a Thera gun. So let's get into some of the

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>trade rumors as well. This one's hot off the wires.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Windhorst just reported this on his podcast, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am shook big one.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>This is huge. And I don't mean Dwayne Deadman to

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<v Speaker 1>this burs. I mean like a real trade.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Now that Kyrie Irving has been traded, maybe the NETS

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>position on not trading Kevin Durant as it really was

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of last summer may change. That is an interesting

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 2>development that has happened over the past forty eight hours

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 2>since the Kyrie trade.

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<v Speaker 1>From the people that I have talked to, Why isn't

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>this bigger news? Is everybody talking about this?

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen this on first agg I haven't seen

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 2>anything on NBA today. Nobody, no Shams, no Chris Haynes.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Where are we at with this? Does Kyrie? Does Kyrie

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>move everything for the Brooklyn Nets? Is Kad going to

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 2>legitimately say, yo, I'm out. I know you guys have

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Cam Thomas and he's dropping forty seven on against the Wizards,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>but I got to go.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean Kevin Durant is gonna be on the

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<v Speaker 2>move like now, like before tomorrow. I don't think he's

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna be trade I don't think they're gonna able to

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 2>get a deal done by then. But the off season

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>is fascinating to me. The entire trade deadline again gets

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>hijacked by Kevin Durant as usual, he likes to you know,

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>easy money sniper, just likes to lay in the weeds

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and funck shit up. Uh So, no one is gonna

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>risk throwing away their assets when they could get Kevin Durant.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 2>So we might have a very dead deadline in advance

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>of this offseason, which I think is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year there's a bizarre rumor that sometimes turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this year it is the buzz that Chris Middleton

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<v Speaker 2>might get traded.

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<v Speaker 1>What what're you talking about? Will?

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 2>It's according to something called Wolfle's press box. This NBA

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>officials believe there's a chance the Bucks may move Middleton

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>before the deadline.

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Why who would they get back in return? Really?

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were bad without Chris Middleton? What are

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>they gonna be without them?

0:27:58.880 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Again? Not?

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where this rumor came from. This feels

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>like fake news to me. This feels like when I

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>ate the garbage on a tweet about James Wiseman officially

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>asking out, which made perfect sense but also wasn't true

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 2>factually James Wiseman speaking of which rumored to one out,

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I do not think that's true.

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>He has very little trade value.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>But the only reason and incentive that the Warriors would

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 2>want to trade him is cap space. He would help

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>them out with one hundred and thirty one million in

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 2>salary and penalties over the next two years. The question

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>for y'all, is Wiseman worth sixty five I mean, I

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>don't even I can't even get it out. Is Wiseman

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>worth sixty five million dollars a year? I think you

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>know the answer to that. Truthfully, that is just short

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>of the sixty eight million that they had to pay

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Kelly Oubray to be on the Warriors. There's been some

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>bad deals for the Dubs, for our Dubs, excuse me.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Seems impossible, though, the Warriors will hold on to him,

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.239
<v Speaker 2>considering how much money he's going to cost and how

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>little he does. He's basically a Santa Cruz Warrior for

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the rest of his career, as long as he's there

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 2>moving forward. Another player who asking for a trade makes

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>no sense because what kind of leverage do they really

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>have is Ferkmond cork Moss. He has demanded a trade

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>from Philly. Okay, does anyone care about that? Firkhon cork

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Moss has demanded the trade.

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>He's he wants out.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 2>No one knows why, probably because his role is diminishing,

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>and it would because he stinks. Fresh off of getting

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.719
<v Speaker 2>jumped by the Georgia national team. Everyone thought he might

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 2>break out. Has not happened this year. He's looking for

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 2>a new home. See you later, frick On cork Moss.

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon. The Raptor is moving on easily, looking

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>like the most active team at the deadline. No one

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>knows though, I actually think maybe Masai Zieri does nothing

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>at all. Ognnoby's been rumored to be on the move.

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Fred van Fleet has rumored to be on the move.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Pascal Siakam rumored to be on the move. That's a

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of picks you're gonna have to get for those

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>three guys. Pascal Siakam and Ognobi are elite wings. This

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>is a wing driven league. If you're moving past and Og,

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>you better get six seven picks. You better get what

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Utah got for Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell. I tell

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you what, that would be an upgrade for any team

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>who gets them. I'm very, very fascinated Fred van Fleet,

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>he's rumored to be on the move.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I think actually that's probably a.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>More likely scenario given the fact that he's on inexpiring.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna want a lot of money and Clippers are

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the potential landing spot for him moving forward.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Portland. Portland's got to do something right. They have to.

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.239
<v Speaker 1>They're linked to Nerlins. No Well, I don't know how

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>much of that moves the needle Mobama just fresh off

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of his fight with Austin Rivers, the team pr representative for.

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 2>The Minnesota Timberwolves, and Jay Crowder. I don't know how

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>that helps him. I don't this team is going nowhere.

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Josh Hart could probably be on the move

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 2>as well. Nuggets definitely are trading Bones Highland. The other

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>rumor that's in the mix on that is Alex Caruso

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that works.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Probably for Bull teams. I don't think it makes Chicago

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>any better. I think Alex Crusoe is a key piece.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Of the what the Bulls want to do moving forward.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Miami apparently is done with Kyle Lowry. That trade stinks.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>That is a horrible trade. He hasn't been healthy. We

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>all know that Kyle Lowry is kind of fat. And

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the truth is Time is undefeated. You know, Father Time

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>continues to win. So that's where thirty eight year old

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Lowry is at when he doesn't take care of

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>his body.

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>So he's probably on the move to where who will

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>want him. I do not know. Mattis Thible seems to

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>also be on the move.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>A lot of suitors, Hawks, Kings, Warriors, Pacers, Blazers, Bucks, Mavericks, Hornets, Raptors,

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>and sons pretty much all interested in Matist Stible. His

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 2>attitude is not very good. I would be very curious

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 2>to see how he looks on another team with another

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 2>identity in another role. Clippers apparently, well we know not.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Apparently they need another point guard. They need to figure

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>it out. They're looking at d Lo, They're looking at

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Eric Gordon, They're looking at Fred Vanfleet.

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>So all that's all the rumors.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens. We've got one day and about

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>twelve hours left to go. We will bring on Keith

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>right after the deadline. That will go up Friday morning

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>very early. I will have my thoughts Friday, sort of

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>mid morning, the early afternoon East Coast time, so we'll

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>drop that as well.

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But that is all the time that we have for

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat Check.

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