1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: And welcome inn Lake Kick is on the air Sunday night, 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: January twenty fourth, the year of Our Lord. What is it? Yeah, 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I said twenty twenty the other night. 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: It's not the first time. It probably won't be the 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: last time. Old Habits died very hard, and in a 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: lot of ways, we're kind of on autopilot when we 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: come into the show. We got so much to talk 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: about as we do tonight because guess what, the show 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: is jam packed yet again. I know a lot has 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: happened over the last three weeks. We have had jam 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: packed shows wall to wall since the National Championship Game ended. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: When you would think, if you were just a casual fan, 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: the sport slows down. No, it doesn't. And we warned 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: you about this, told you it was coming. It's an 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: abnormal year. But I think this may become more of 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: the norm. When we're talking about everything from coaching searches 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: extending into January, that may be a little bit rare. 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: But when you talk about what's happening with the transfer portal, 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: and of course you've got the recruiting cycle every year, 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: January is never going to be the same again. Now, 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: you could view that as bad news if you want 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: to take a nap for a little while, or good 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: news if you just want the season to extend and 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: you want to keep talking about college football for obvious reasons. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: We hear at Late Kick leaning towards the latter, so 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: we're okay with it. We have got a lot to 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: discuss this evening. Thank you so much for joining us. 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the channel. I can't stress this enough. We're 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: at two live shows per week right now, on Sunday 30 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: night and Thursday night, but there may be things happening 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: on Monday morning. In fact, I expect some things to 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: happen between now and the next time we have a show, 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: in which case this will be the place to come 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: for a reaction video. You know, if Tennessee hires a 35 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: coach on Tuesday at noon, I'm not waiting till Thursday 36 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to talk about it. So make sure you're subscribed here 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: and make sure you're following me on Twitter at Late Kick, Josh. 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: A lot happens there that we can't fit into the show. 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: A lot happens there on a moment to moment basis 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: that obviously we can't do with the format of the show. 41 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: So tonight we are going to indeed talk about the 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: latest with the Tennessee Coaching Search. I've also got some 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: details about the inner workings of a coaching search and 44 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Coaching Search, and just some things for you 45 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to chew on as you're deciding which news out there 46 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: to listen to, which folks to believe in, which ones 47 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: not to believe. Also, the mood Tracker segment is back. 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: It is rapidly growing in popularity. It's been fun. It's 49 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: also very interactive. So I listened to a lot of 50 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: you guys, and you've been asking me, Hey, do one 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: on this program, do one on that program. So we've 52 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: been doing about two per show, I would say, and 53 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna do two tonight. We're gonna do Florida, We're 54 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: gonna do Texas. Don't worry, it's only January twenty fourth, 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: as I said, twenty twenty one, and so we've got 56 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: plenty of time to get to all the major programs 57 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: and the programs that you want to talk about. So 58 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: let's dive into this show, shall we, the Tennessee Coaching Search. 59 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: What is the very latest here? You know what, I 60 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people know, and that's okay, 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: that's a really in fact, that's a really good thing. 62 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: What if I told you a lack of information is 63 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a good thing if you're a Tennessee fan. Here's how 64 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to start this, though. In order to make 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: it make sense, you need to understand the anatomy of 66 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: a modern day coaching search, which is a different thing 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: altogether than a coaching search was fifteen years ago. To 68 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: understand why the information seems so scarce, you have to 69 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: understand how the athletic director position has evolved. They just 70 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: hired a new one in Knoxville. His name is Danny White. 71 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: He came from UCF University of Central Florida, and we 72 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: talked about him a little bit the other night. The 73 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: risk reward when it comes to reporting for let's say, 74 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: local beat writers, I don't think has ever been more lopsided. 75 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: It's all risk. It is very little reward. And those 76 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: guys and girls out there right now are they are 77 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: sweat and bullets every time they get a name, every 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: time they get a little piece of information, Should I 79 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: go with it? Should I keep it to myself? And 80 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: you may wonder, why is that? Why wouldn't you go 81 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: with information, especially if it comes from what you deem 82 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: as a reputable source. Here's why, So the old school approach. 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: So think about hiring not a head coach, but an 84 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: athletic director. That's where we need to start. In the 85 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: old school. What would you do if you were in 86 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: a major program, Well, you probably go hire a former 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: coach or at the very least a former noteworthy player, 88 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: someone who has been associated with the football program. Because football, 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it drives the bus 90 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: for all the other lower revenue generating sports. And so 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: you'd go get maybe a former coach. He knows football. Therefore, 92 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: you know he knows how to handle a football higher. 93 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: And if you're going to make a new football higher, 94 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be the athletic director and maybe a 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: small circle of folks around him, but it's going to 96 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: be the ad leading the search. Information as a result, 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: filters through the same channels in the football complex as 98 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: normal news would, as normal information would. And so picture 99 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: yourself being a Tennessee beat writer. Picture yourself working for 100 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Govalls two four seven dot com, and you cover the 101 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: team on a day to day basis, and you have 102 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: your established network of sources and when it comes to 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: depth chart, when it comes to getting information from closed practices, 104 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: when it comes to roster moves, who's going to transfer 105 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: the same sources that you would go to or you 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: would utilize to get those pieces of information you could 107 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: freely utilize to get information on a coaching search. Why 108 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: because the coaching search is happening internal to the football program. Well, 109 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: that was the old school way, and it worked for 110 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: a long time. Here's the new school approach. Here's why 111 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: it becomes so treacherous for local beat writers to cover 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: coaching searches. The new school in hiring an athletic director 113 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: is there's an emphasis on finding a CEO type who's 114 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: an excellent fundraiser and who has got upper management written 115 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: all over him, In other words, someone you would trust 116 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: in a boardroom to run a major company, because that's 117 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: what a football program is. And really you could argue 118 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: it always has been, but that's how every major football 119 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: program is viewed these days. When Danny White just got 120 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: hired at Tennessee, what is the stat I gave you 121 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the other night? It wasn't about the combined records of 122 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: his football coaches that he's hired, Although that's impressive. It 123 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: was about revenue generation. Danny White, over the last fiscal 124 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: year had generated four times more money than had been 125 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: generated four years prior at Central Florida, So year over year, 126 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: four years after twenty sixteen, fifteen sixteen, that fiscal year, 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: so the nineteen twenty that ranged, they generated thirty five 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: just over thirty five million dollars, which was again four 129 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: times what they had generated four years prior. That's getting 130 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: it done. That gets the attention of everyone. And by 131 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the way, this happens without fail Normally I don't mention it, 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: but it just popped in my head. So the other 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: night I was talking about that stat and I was 134 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about what Danny White did in a fiscal year. Okay, 135 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: which anyone who has gotten themselves past third grade reading 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: level understands is different than the word physical. Well, I 137 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: thought that it was so widely understood that that was 138 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: the case. I would joke around with you and say, 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: fiscal or as my friends call it, physical year, Well, 140 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: there's always one person who probably didn't may get past 141 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: third grade, but who understands how to log onto the internet, 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: who is going to play hero in the comment section 143 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: on YouTube? So someone actually thought I was serious when 144 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: I said that, and they pulled out that e sword 145 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: and they got cut with it. I'll just leave it 146 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: at that. They got cut with it, so breaking news. 147 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: We hear a lake kick, do indeed understand the difference 148 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: between fiscal and physical. The only time I've been called 149 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: out in the last month where I had to just 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: cower and shame is I'm gonna be honest with you. 151 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: I did not know the difference between the word jibe, 152 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: jibe and jive. I've just been saying that doesn't jive 153 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: with my whole life. And I got called out the 154 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: other night and they were right and I was wrong, 155 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: and I gave myself fifty self lashes for punishment. So 156 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: we move on. Now that's been taken care of. But 157 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: in the new school approach, consider what hiring an athletic 158 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: director with that background means. It's happening right now at Tennessee. 159 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: When you bring in a guy who's more of a 160 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: fundraising CEO type. Danny White hasn't been a head coach. 161 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: Danny White wasn't a former All American player who understands 162 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: the entire landscape of the game. But Danny White is 163 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: the proper hire for CEO. Well, what is the first 164 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: thing he did. He came in and announced that they 165 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: were hiring a search firm. And so what does a 166 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: search firm mean? Well, a search firm, just like happened 167 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: at Auburn a few about a month ago, means that 168 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: you're taking what is normally inside the hands of people 169 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: in the football operations department and you're outsourcing it. Well, 170 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: guess what that means for someone covering a coaching search. 171 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Guess what that means for you as a fan. You 172 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: can't rely on your normal sources of information, at least 173 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: if you're trying to get legitimate information. And so the 174 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: search firm handles the hiring process and the interview process. 175 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: That interview process, in turn, especially right now, takes place 176 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: over zoom or A lot of people have figured out 177 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: how to hide their tail numbers on their planes, and 178 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: they know not to fly to Louisville if they're going 179 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: to interview Bobby Patrino. Once upon a time, you fly 180 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: to some remote, clandestine location in the middle of nowhere, 181 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: and you mutually agree to meet, let's say in Springfield, Missouri. 182 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: That's how you do it. Small circle. On the university side, 183 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: there is a very small circle that will ever, at 184 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: one given point in time, be aware of what's going 185 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: on in a coaching search. Only place you can get 186 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: information as a result, usually are agents, and agents are 187 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: notorious for misleading you because an agent does not have 188 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: their relationship with you at the forefront of their motivation. 189 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: They have their relationship with their client at the forefront 190 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: of their motivation. A lot of times you're being intentionally 191 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: fed false information because they're trying to get their guy raises, 192 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: they're trying to get them extensions and whatnot. Now, I 193 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: say all that to say this, that's not a bad thing. 194 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: That's a very good thing because by default, if that's 195 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: what's happening, if that's how Tennessee is operating their coaching search, 196 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: well then that means a lot of folks who have 197 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: been involved in the past aren't involved in the coaching search. 198 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: So where is the search. Well, I'm focused, to be 199 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: honest with you, a whole lot more on the timeline 200 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: than the names themselves. Because again, let's back up, if 201 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: that's the way the coaching search is being operated, we 202 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: don't have a legitimate list of names. We have little 203 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: tidbits here and there. You know, you'll see a tweet 204 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: so and so is being vetted for the job. So 205 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: and so it's it's his job if he wants it. 206 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: That stuff may end up being reality, it may not. 207 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you from my end, I don't view 208 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: any of it as credible because I know the sourcing 209 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: could be someone who has an ulterior motive other than 210 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: just keeping the Tennessee public and college football public informed 211 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: on where the Vall's head coaching search is. So I'm 212 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: focused on timeline. That's where you can get more legitimate information. 213 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, someone close to Danny White's circle or that 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: search firm circle, they will be completely hesitant in never 215 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: giving you legitimate information. But here's where they could be 216 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: somewhat forthcoming, giving you a loose timetable. Letting a loose 217 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: timetable leak out, there's no harm in that. You know, 218 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: if they're planning on making a hire by Wednesday, there's 219 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: no harm in them leaking out that, Hey, we plan 220 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: on having something in the next seventy two hours or so, 221 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: in the next few days or so, there's no harm 222 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: in that. That may be legitimate. Now that I have 223 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: heard from a number of people, and that I do 224 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: believe to be the case. The timeline's important because that 225 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: totally flies in the face of what the initial assumption 226 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: was for me. I got to admit that for me 227 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of other people too, and that was, Hey, 228 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Steele's probably going to be the coach here for 229 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: a while, gonna be the interim coach here for a while, 230 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: Gonna be really hard to go get someone. Well, some 231 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: people initially thought that about the ad search too, and 232 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: they basically snap their fingers and snag Danny White out 233 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: of UCF. I don't even know if he had time 234 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: to pack his bags before got to Tennessee. And so 235 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: now it looks like they're trying to hire the coaching 236 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: search in the same way. Now here's the awareness Tennessee 237 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: is aware. I mean, they're keenly aware. No one understands 238 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: the potential pitfalls and snags around their program and the 239 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: branding and the current reputation more than Tennessee themselves. And 240 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: so the money they've committed to this search and this 241 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: entire endeavor of overturning this football program and really athletic department, 242 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: it speaks to their awareness of their limitations. Right now, 243 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee tell you what it reminds me of. One of 244 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: my favorite movies is Tombstone, and you watch Wyatt Earp 245 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: and he's out of the law game and he's moving 246 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: to Tombstone, wants to settle down, just wants to operate 247 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: a nice, good faith business out there, depending on your 248 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: definition of faith. But listen, he's done, man, no more killing, 249 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: you know, no more chasing folks through the desert. Well, 250 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the status quo changed, and so 251 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: too did Wyatt Earp's attitude the rest of the movie. 252 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it for you. It's only 253 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: been out about thirty years. I don't want to spoil 254 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: it for you if you haven't seen it already. Well, 255 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: that's how Tennessee is kind of operating right now. Yeah 256 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: we know this, and yeah we know that, we know 257 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: what kind of rebuild it is. But do you see 258 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: this sack over here, Not sack, that's the wrong usage 259 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: of word. Right now, do you see this briefcase over here? 260 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: It's full of money, a lot more than you get 261 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: paid right now, a lot more than you'll probably make 262 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: over the next two years. We're giving you a multiple 263 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: year guarantee. We're gonna load it up with incentives. This 264 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: is a commitment from us to you. We need a 265 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: commitment from you to us. Now, this search has the 266 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: makings of a stunner because of those two reasons. Number one, 267 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: very secretive, not a lot of people in the loop. 268 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: That's good. Number two, they're willing to overpay and they're 269 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: not bashful about it. And when you have those two 270 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: elements in place, you have all the makings of this 271 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: long list of widely reported candidates. And then you wake 272 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: up one morning and you were fresh Twitter at eight 273 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: twenty eight am, and there's breaking news from like four 274 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: different outlets. So and so set to be hired as 275 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee head coach, and you go, what number one? I 276 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: had not heard his name once, maybe my buddy and 277 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned him in passing at the water cooler the 278 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: other day, but I never really thought he was a 279 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: serious candidate. And that's the way this could go down. 280 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't even have a list of names. We all 281 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: have the list. We've seen the list out there, but 282 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I think it may come out of nowhere. 283 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: There's one name that wouldn't quite be out to know where. 284 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: I've seen some mention of his name on the fringes. 285 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: The one I have thrown out with some buddies, and 286 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I'll just put it out there now was James Franklin. 287 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: James Franklin's the guy i'd go after. I know some 288 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: of you in Tennessee don't like him because of his 289 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: track record and where he's been previously. I'd go after 290 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: James Franklin. James Franklin Number one, I think has learned 291 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: about the limitations of recruiting at Penn State, and what 292 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: he could do at Tennessee is a lot greater than 293 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: what he could do at Penn State in terms of recruiting. 294 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Number two, you know what would interest me. What would 295 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: interest me is the energy I would get with him, 296 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: the ability to get him closer to his family, which 297 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: I think they live in Florida. Maybe in number three, 298 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: and here's the most important part. When he went to 299 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Penn State, things were not well. When he went to 300 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: Penn State, they were in the midst of trying to 301 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: rebuild their image, repair their program. And so even if 302 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: that is the case, at Tennessee, you'd have a premier name. 303 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: He matters coast to coast. He has a proven track record, 304 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: and he's dealt with those kind of problems internally before 305 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: he's weathered that kind of storm, and so I wouldn't 306 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: have any doubt about his willingness to take on that 307 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of challenge. I don't know if he's interested. I 308 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: have no clue about that. I'm not floating his name 309 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: out as me knowing something. I'm saying if I were 310 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: part of this search firm, he would meet my requirements. 311 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: Maybe my requirements differ from that of Tennessee. So that's 312 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: where we think the Tennessee coaching search is right now. 313 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully we have more information sooner rather than later. I 314 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: really think by the next time we have a show, 315 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: which is on Thursday night, Tennessee will have a head 316 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: coach in place. Let's roll on here on this Sunday evening. 317 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Mood Tracker is back. It never went anywhere, some could say, 318 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: and I would agree with you. The mood Tracker, for 319 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: a reminder, those of you who are new, is just 320 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: us taking the temperature of a fan base essentially, and 321 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: us taking an overall snapshot. You know, there are going 322 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: to be some fringes, maybe some overly pessimistic foot folks 323 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: and overly optimistic folks who may not fit this description, 324 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: but this is sort of the middle eighty percent, if 325 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you will, so the Florida mood tracker in the Florida 326 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: fan base. Where are Gator fans at right now? Well, 327 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: I think I classify them as being in the heart 328 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: to heart conversation territory. That's what they want to have. 329 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: But it's very important, just like you and your family, 330 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: if you may not be getting along, you don't have 331 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: the heart to heart in public. Okay, it doesn't matter 332 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: if an argument starts in the middle of Outback Steakhouse. 333 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,479 Speaker 1: You don't argue in the middle of everyone at Outback Steakhouse. 334 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: You just look at everyone. And if you've got kids, 335 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: you have to say it. If you've got adults around, 336 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: you don't have to say it. It's understood, but unspoken. Will 337 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: handle this later, will handle this when we get home. 338 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: So when we're out of the public eye, that's where 339 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: we'll handle it. And I think that's where a lot 340 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: of Florida fans are right now, because in public it 341 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: is swords out, defend the Gator logo until the death. 342 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: We just won the East. We played in the SEC 343 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: championship game. Okay, we ran a rough shot over most 344 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: of you, guys, some of you got us. But hey, 345 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: we were still standing in Atlanta at the end of 346 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: the day and we beat Georgia. So don't let me 347 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: hear a word of Athens. That's the public statement, that's 348 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: the public stance. But now let's talk about getting behind 349 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: closed doors. Let's just be honest. I'm going to assume 350 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: the role of a Florida fan right now. We need 351 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: to be honest with one another. But hey, I need 352 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: Dan Mullen in the room too, if we can get 353 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: him out, Dan, you got time, Okay, Yeah, come on 354 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: over here. So so Dan's in the room now, and 355 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: we need to look at you and the eye Dan Mullen. 356 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: And we got to tell you a couple of things, actually, 357 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: like four or five. Loved the offense this year. We're 358 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: going to start on a positive note. We need you 359 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: to listen to all of it though. Loved what the 360 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: offense was this year. Loved the year over year progression 361 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: of Kyle Trask. You totally and completely backed up and 362 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: validated everything we thought you were in terms of an 363 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: offensive play caller and a developer of the quarterback position. 364 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: It was great. We overachieved and we already had pretty 365 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: high expectations for the offense. Secondly, it's no small deal 366 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: to us that you beat Georgia. In fact, it's a 367 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: huge deal to us this year, and we had I mean, 368 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: we had the ability to hang over half a hundred 369 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: on him if we wanted to. We all know that. 370 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: You know that, we know that. Let's wink at each other, 371 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: let's smile, and let's chuckle. It's a big deal because 372 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: now they have to shut up and we can be 373 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: alone over here and we can talk about this. Let's 374 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: also remember this. At the beginning of the year, a 375 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: lot of us were talking about the fact that we 376 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: did not believe we'd ever beat Georgia. If we couldn't 377 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: beat them now, I mean, it was now or never. 378 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: If not now, then when we still remember saying that, 379 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: we remember that. Okay, so since we said it on 380 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: the front end, we've got to credit you and congratulate 381 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: you on the back end. I mean, we're the best 382 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: team in the state right now by a mile. I 383 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: mean we're superior to Florida State by ten miles. We're 384 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: significantly superior to Miami. We recently played them, we beat them, 385 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: so we're good there now. Dan it's time to transition, 386 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: because some of us are going to go and sit 387 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: in another chair, and others of us are going to 388 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: sit here. Some of us still think recruiting's pretty good. 389 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: Those folks over there, though, they're looking at us currently 390 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: ranked in the ten to fifteen range and the twenty 391 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: four to seven sports team rankings, and it's good. But 392 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: it's not good enough because we're looking at the teams 393 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: we have to consistently compete against, and they're always hanging 394 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: out in the top five, and we have every advantage 395 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: over them. We're parked in Gainesville, Florida. We can again, 396 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: as we always like to say, throw a pebble out 397 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: of our window and hit enough four or five star 398 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: recruits to land inside the top five. A lot of 399 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: our instate guys leave, though, we need to keep them home. 400 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's not bad, Dan, So it's not us, 401 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: but it's not you. It just is. So let's make 402 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: it better. Now, Dan, it's time to make things a 403 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable because now we got to give the 404 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: floor over to the folks in the other camp here 405 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: and Hope take the microphone. Okay, so they got the microphone. Now, Dan, 406 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of uncertainty. We want to know what 407 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: your commitment level is. We did not like waking up 408 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: every morning around Christmas time and hearing word about you 409 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: potentially talking to NFL teams. It's great that you could 410 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: get the opportunity, but man, we could have really used 411 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: a statement from you. We really could have used you 412 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: just coming out and saying I'm gonna be here. I mean, Dan, 413 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of Ryan Days, the 414 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: head coach of Ohio State, and the moment his name 415 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: was linked to NFL jobs, he made sure to get 416 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: in touch with about thirty seven reporters to anonymously leak 417 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: that sources out of Columbus say Ryan Day has no 418 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: intro in NFL jobs. Well, well, Dan, I didn't hear 419 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: a word from you when your name was linked to 420 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: all sorts of jobs. So what does that tell me? 421 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: We're just gonna leave it open ended. What am I 422 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: supposed to make of that? Number two? I did not 423 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: enjoy whatsoever watching our locker room fragment so easily down 424 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the stretch this year. It's kind of embarrassing. Actually, we 425 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: had the pieces, We had the pieces to win. I 426 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: think we could have given Alabama not just a serious 427 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: run in Atlanta. I think we could have beaten them, 428 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: but it came off the rails late in the year. 429 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like we had enough gas in the tank 430 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: to make it through the Georgia game, but not really 431 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: much past that in terms of big games coming up 432 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: on our schedule. That was really disappointing. Also, man, can 433 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: we talk about our defense, like, can we seriously have 434 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: just a conversation heart to heart about Todd Grantham and 435 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: about the fact that our product has somehow been less 436 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: than the sum of the individual parts. It's supposed to 437 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: be the other way around, especially when you're at this 438 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: level and you're getting paid what we're paying Todd coach 439 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: grant them whatever we want to call him. We got 440 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: to do something over there because us we're just gonna 441 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: hang those kinds of offensive numbers every year. Don't think 442 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: our defensive product is good enough right now. And hey, 443 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: we hung those kind of offensive numbers this year, and 444 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: even then, our defense wasn't good enough, and therefore our 445 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: football team wasn't good enough to make it all the way. 446 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: We shouldn't have lost to A and M this year. 447 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: We shouldn't have We shouldn't have had to score over 448 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: fifty to beat Alabama. We should be one of the 449 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: best teams in the country. Man, We certainly shouldn't have 450 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: lost to LSU. There were a number of reasons for that. 451 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: But Dan, what are we gonna do here, Because let's 452 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: just go back to what I said for a second. 453 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: LSU LSU, Man, LSU was already terrible. LSU had been 454 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: sucking water through a garden hose the entire season. LSU 455 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: got boat raised by Michael Leitch, not Mike, Michael used 456 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: the full name. And then they come in here. They 457 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: left half of their bad roster at home, and they 458 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: beat us. And they didn't beat us early in the year. 459 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: They beat us when we had everything we knew to 460 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: be in front of us. We could have been a 461 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: playoff team, Dan, we could have made the playoff. We 462 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: may have even been able to lose to Alabama and 463 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: make the playoff. But no more So that's out of 464 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the way. Now we can go back to being cordial. 465 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: And I just want to ask you, do we have 466 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: the staying power? Do we have what it takes to 467 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: stay at the big boy table, Because here's what the 468 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: concern is. We've been talking amongst each other here and 469 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the pessimism and the optimism either way, you feel there 470 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: is one shared concern and that is this year we'll 471 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: be looked at four years from now as the peak, 472 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: and we don't want it to be the peak. We 473 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: want to be here every year. But we're concerned that 474 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: recruiting is not going to be at an elite level 475 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: and we're not going to have another quarterback like Kyle 476 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: Trask and you're gonna flirt with the NFL every year, 477 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: and that's going to be sold on the recruiting trail 478 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: as Dan Mullen's not going to be here through your 479 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: entire high school tenure. Therefore, why would you go to Florida? 480 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: And it's gonna work enough to where we look back 481 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: and we say, man, that twenty nineteen season, you know, 482 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: we thought we had arrived, but as it turns out, 483 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: we just rented a space and by the way, we 484 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: had to check out before the season was over. LS 485 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: you booted us. That's not good, Dan. We don't want that. 486 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: We want to stay, and so we just need you 487 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: to show us, help us, help ourselves to be fully 488 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: invested into this program. And that concludes the Florida Gators 489 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Mood Tracker as of January twenty fourth, the year of 490 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: our lower twenty twenty one. I think that's the only 491 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: time I have assumed the role of a fan base. 492 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: Didn't plan that, Colin just kind of went with it. 493 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: The Texas Longhorn Football mood Tracker. Where is the fan 494 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: base in Austin right now? Well, like I just said, 495 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm assuming the role of a Texas fan. If you're 496 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: watching the individual video for the next however many minutes 497 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: this goes, I am a Texas fan right along with you. 498 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: I got three words that are going to come out 499 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: of my mouth that describe what my mood is. My 500 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: mood is roll tiede roll. I'm not apologizing for that. 501 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: There are no qualifiers. I don't need to explain my statement. 502 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: Forget about two thousand and nine, forget about what would 503 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: happen to Colt didn't get hurt. All that's behind us. 504 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: It does us no good to focus or dwell. I 505 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: need as much of that energy that we just brought 506 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: from Tuscaloosa to come west as possible. Look, Texas is Texas, 507 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: and we'll all be proud of it until the end 508 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: of time and we'll defend the brand to the very death. However, 509 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: we also need to understand they got something figured out there. 510 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: We hired Sark from Alabama and he hired a bunch 511 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: of people from Alabama. Hopefully we can import that, but man, 512 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: we need to humble ourselves enough to know they've had 513 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: something figured out. We want to import it. And losing 514 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: is not fun. In fact, losing sucks. It's awful. And 515 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: we've done too much of it here. I mean, we 516 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: haven't been two in ten or anything like that, but 517 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: we've done too much of it. But you know what, 518 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: I've come to realize it's kind of like a Kyle 519 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: south Park premonition. I've come to realize that losing is 520 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: kind of a byproduct. I think a lot of you 521 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: guys get it too. Around Texas, you pay attention to 522 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: the program day to day. Obviously we all do. We're 523 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: Texas fans, right, But here, I think is one key 524 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: difference the public. Oregon State fans, Virginia Tech fans, they 525 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: watch us, they care about Texas, but they just see 526 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: us lose the game on Saturday, you know, and they 527 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: look and they say, hey, Texas lost today. Well we 528 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: look around and we say, no, oh Man, we lost 529 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. We lost on signing day 530 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: when we watched a bunch of kids leave our state 531 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: and go play with the opposition. Maybe not at Oregon 532 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: State or Virginia Tech, but they go to Alabama, they 533 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: go to Oklahoma, they go to Ohio State, and as 534 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: a result, a lot of guys who we know good 535 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: and well, if we have things figured out, should be 536 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: playing with a long horn on the side of their helmet, 537 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: are playing elsewhere and we're dropping these games. We shouldn't 538 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: be dropping for a number of reasons. But it really 539 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: all boils down to we don't have it in recruiting. 540 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: We have not had it in recruiting. I know everyone 541 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: puts out the roster comparisons and they talk about how 542 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: we're still top ten, this top five, that we're not 543 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: good enough, we don't have the play. We should be 544 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: number one, that's what we should be. We should be 545 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: right there with Alabama, right there with Ohio State. We 546 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: should be better than Ohio State because the only way 547 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: there where they are is because they got our players 548 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: on their roster. So we should be not top five, 549 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: not top ten, number one, number two. Any given year, 550 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: if we were that. You know what we could afford 551 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: to do. We could afford to actually show up and 552 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: play a B minus game any given Saturday and still win. 553 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: Alabama can do it, you know why, because they're that 554 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: much better than everyone. We should just be that much 555 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: more talented than everyone. Basically, what I guess I'm saying is, 556 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: we know we have to fix Texas. It's all encompassing. 557 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: It's not just we need to fix the offense. We 558 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: need to have a better defensive backplay. We got to 559 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: fix Texas. We got to fix the culture in a 560 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: lot of ways from the ground up. There needs to 561 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: be a proper understanding around here of what Texas athletics 562 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: and what Texas football is. We got to fix our 563 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: image to where we matter the way we should matter, 564 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: to where we strike the proper emotion in someone when 565 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: they see that Longhorner, when they hear a University of 566 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: Texas from coast to coast. We got to fix our branding, 567 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: which kind of goes along the same lines. But all 568 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: of that, if we fix that, we will have fixed 569 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: recruiting and not until then. You can't just run the 570 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: lawnmower over the weed and then say the weed's dead. 571 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: We got to fix it by the route, and it's 572 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: going to take some time even if we hired the 573 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: right guy. But that's how we fix football. We fix 574 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: those things and we fix football. Did we high the 575 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: guy to run a football program? Did we do that 576 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: with Steve Sarkisian? It's fair to doubt. It's fair to 577 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: do that because if we didn't, then then we may 578 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: be spinning our wheels a little bit. Because Steve Sarkishan. 579 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I watched him at Alabama. Everybody did. That Guy's knocked 580 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: it out of the park. I've never seen offensive football 581 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: run at such a high efficiency level as I've seen 582 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: for Nick Saban at Alabama with sark calling the plays 583 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: and at the wheel over the last couple of years. 584 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: But it's great if he comes in here and does 585 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: that offensively. I need someone to grab the wheel and 586 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: drive the bus, and I need it to be different 587 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: than the folks who have been driving the bus. I 588 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: think that's pretty clear. I think it's pretty understandable what 589 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sark is great at one of those things. 590 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: He's a total mystery at the other. He's great calling plays, 591 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: he's great running an offense. I'd have no doubt he'll 592 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: do it here. That's not left up to debate. In 593 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: my mind. What is left up to debate is will 594 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: it all be for not? Because if we don't have 595 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: the entire bus, if we don't have the train going 596 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: in the same direction, it's really just going to be 597 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of points every now and then. But we 598 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: largely still to achieve. The hires are exciting. Don't get 599 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: me wrong. When I'm watching these guys that Sarks bringing in, 600 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: I love it. Hey, the more Bama flavor here the 601 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: better as far as I'm concerned. But they worked at 602 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: Alabama because Alabama works. I want to stress that these 603 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: guys didn't start at Alabama. They became rock stars at Alabama. 604 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, they worked at Bama because 605 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: the Bama model works, and the Bama model works. Finished 606 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: the sentence with me. Because Nick Saban runs it, who 607 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: is going to run Texas? And if it takes you 608 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: more than two seconds to answer that question six months 609 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: from now when I ask you, Hey, who's running Texas football? 610 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: If it takes you more than two seconds, then we 611 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: still have a problem on our hands. So that is 612 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: my wish. My wish is that Sark is the right higher. 613 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: He's running the ship, he's operating everything, He's got his 614 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: hands on everything, and as a result, we are in 615 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: the process of fixing Texas to be continued. I don't 616 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: think we can judge that right now, but I do 617 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: think we can wrap the show right now. 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