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Speaker 1: Hey, professional homegirls, Ishagirl, Ebiney, and I am so excited

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Speaker 1: to introduce my very first spooky series.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Halloween is one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite holidays, y'all. So every Tuesday throughout the entire month

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Speaker 1: of October, I'll be diving into the world of real,

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Speaker 1: spine tingling stories. In this week's episode, I Am a

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Speaker 1: Ghost Hunter, Part one, my guests will open up about

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Speaker 1: the unique challenges face as a person of color in

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Speaker 1: this field, her experiences living in a hunted house, and

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Speaker 1: a host of other eerie encounters. The journey is about

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Speaker 1: to kick off, so brace yourselves for a bone chilling

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Speaker 1: right starting now. So to my guests, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being a part of the show. How you doing,

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Speaker 1: how you feeling far?

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Speaker 3: So good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm really happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to talk about my spooky realm with everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am super excited about this show. If for

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Speaker 1: those who don't know, I love scary shit, Like I

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Speaker 1: watch scary movies to relax me. Like I can tell

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Speaker 1: you about any and everything about the scary movies. So

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited to be talking to my guests about

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Speaker 1: ghosts and spooky shit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can talk about it for hours, so you

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Speaker 2: are in good company.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Now, why do you think there is a lack

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Speaker 1: of representation of Black people and paranormal activity or on

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's been an uptick in a lot

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Speaker 2: of African Americans or pocs in general being in the

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Speaker 2: paranormal community. I think it kind of started out with

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Speaker 2: the whole fact that like in horror movies, most of

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Speaker 2: the time black people that right, facts, we always go first.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, it don't make no sense to actually

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Speaker 2: put yourself in the situation where you're going to potentially

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Speaker 2: die first. But here recently, I feel like we've been

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Speaker 2: a lot more. There've been a lot more like spirituality

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Speaker 2: whole all these different aspects of spirituality and stuff. And

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Speaker 2: I think that kind of does tie into the paranormal

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Speaker 2: in general. Anytime that you go to church and you

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Speaker 2: feel the Holy Spirit and stuff like that, that is

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. And I'm very comfortable around yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you make a good point with the

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Speaker 1: spirituality aspect, because I do feel like the reason why

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Speaker 1: because it's taught. It goes really well with spirituality.

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Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, And I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: being being more connected with yourself, being more connected with

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Speaker 2: connecting the two worlds together right now.

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Speaker 1: What responsibility do businesses have to ensure that their ghost

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Speaker 2: I think it's a matter of just like taking a

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Speaker 2: go to like let's say Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and obviously the

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Speaker 2: But it's really just a matter of figuring out your community,

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Speaker 2: what works for your community, and honestly, some ways even

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Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. It's just a matter of what the

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Speaker 2: kind of like exposure therapy in a way, where like

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Speaker 2: if you have like Ouiji boards or something inside of

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Speaker 2: that's really cool to interesting it and think you guys

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Speaker 1: I know the spirits and Salem just tired.

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Speaker 4: Oh I know, I feel like honestly, I feel like

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Speaker 4: from which I mean, like technically with my whole like

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Speaker 2: I'm all up in their ship. But at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, there's like a mutual respect in a way.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of places that are haunted

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Speaker 2: I think that they are there to kind of send

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Speaker 2: And even though exactly exactly, some of them might just

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Speaker 2: be like get the fuck out of here, correct, some

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Speaker 2: of them might just be like I miss my mom,

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Speaker 2: or can you please help send this message to so

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Speaker 2: and so? And it really just depends on the place.

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Speaker 2: But I know and Salem, they like over that shit right.

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Speaker 1: Now before we continue, because I can see where you at,

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Speaker 1: But can you explain to the listeners where you're at? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I am currently at the Anchorage Mansion in Mariette, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I own a business called Hit and Marietta, and we

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Speaker 1: do ghost towards ghost hunts. We also have a shop

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Speaker 1: and an office located here inside of this building. I

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Speaker 1: am currently in the attic.

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Speaker 2: Of the Anchorage mansion, which I will move out the way.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely pretty spooky, Yeah, I do. I have equipment

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Speaker 2: kind of behind me in different places just to kind

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Speaker 2: of see if something goes off while we're up here

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Speaker 2: or music playing or something like that, because that's just

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Speaker 2: what the equipment does. But I am typically here. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I haunt this house more than the ghosts

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Speaker 2: to and this is kind of like my comfort zone,

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Speaker 2: my home away from home in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: Not no professional homegirls spirits trying to come to the show.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather deal with the ghost here and not bring

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Speaker 2: it to my house. The one thing I always say

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Speaker 2: before I leave any location I investigate is if you

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Speaker 2: don't listen, I got three three minut at home. I

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Speaker 2: got my two sons, I got my husband. If you

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Speaker 2: don't plan on picking up a bill, getting a job,

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Speaker 2: cleaning my damn house, or minding your damn business, you

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Speaker 2: ain't got no business coming home with me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, are there any best practices that you believe

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Speaker 1: businesses should follow when profiting from hunting places, because I

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Speaker 1: do feel like a lot of these places do make

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Speaker 1: money off of it because they know it's trending in

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Speaker 1: I was gonna attract people. So what do you think,

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Speaker 1: Oh you've heard something? Oh I see something, child? So

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Speaker 1: she has like a ghost of machine that the text

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Speaker 1: if there's any ghost interactions or that's nearby. And one

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Speaker 1: of the machines just turned red.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was like flashing red and making noise. That yeah,

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Speaker 2: mm hmm, that's the rampid back there. And then there's

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Speaker 2: a green light here on the floor that is a

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Speaker 2: para force, which is like a emotion detector. If something

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Speaker 2: walks in front of it, it will make noise and

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Speaker 2: like start making music and stuff. So I've invited them

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Speaker 2: to come hang out with us long as stay over there. Child. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna stay right here. I promise you. I promise you,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna stay right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The question is, was my fault?

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Speaker 1: My listener is about to be like, what the FUCKNA

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Speaker 1: got going on?

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Speaker 2: I bitch, it's almost October.

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Speaker 1: You got to get right, right, right. So the question is, so,

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Speaker 1: do you believe that there are best practices that businesses

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Speaker 1: should follow. We're profited from hunted houses on hunted places.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are a lot of different practices that people

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Speaker 2: should follow. A lot of the conto locations in many

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Speaker 2: is owned by the historical Society, the Washington County Historical

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Speaker 2: be very strategic with doing our research and the things

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Speaker 2: that we say about the house and stuff, not because

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Speaker 2: we don't want them to get upset with us.

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Speaker 1: Is it beep it?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: M let me find out the spirits a listener.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm fine with it. They don't bother me none.

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Speaker 2: But not only because like you might feel like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna get mad if we say certain things. But

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Speaker 2: you want to be respectful to the history.

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Speaker 4: You want to be respectful to the people that came

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Speaker 2: You want to be respectful to the people that own

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Speaker 2: have to understand is that they were here first. You're

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Speaker 2: just visiting temporarily like this, this isn't your domain, this

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Speaker 2: and just having general respect. It's the same way I

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Speaker 1: What role do you think the media play in all

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Speaker 1: have this idea that you can do this, you can

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Speaker 1: do that, but you do have to be respectful in

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Speaker 1: real time. So what do you think the media can

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Speaker 1: do to change it? And also, the media doesn't really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the media plays a big role in that they

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Speaker 2: a pretty general knowledge sort of thing with the paranormal

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Speaker 2: community is, for the most part, it's very like male dominant.

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Speaker 2: You see people like Zach Began, Nick Broth, like all

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Speaker 2: age where women are starting to feel more comfortable with

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Speaker 2: being a part of the paranormal community community. But then

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Speaker 2: you also have people like me that are coming out

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Speaker 2: of the world work being more comfortable with the paranormal

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Speaker 2: community and being open and honest about my experiences because

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Speaker 2: my experience has come from when I was just like

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Speaker 2: a lot of us have had those experiences, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of us don't like to mention it. But that's

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Speaker 2: exactly why we kind of have to put ourselves in

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Speaker 2: to understand this is not just a you thing, This

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie. It was so hard trying

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Speaker 2: I know my sister has been a really big support

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Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about you when I

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Speaker 2: Yep, period exactly. That is exactly right. I have always

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Speaker 2: And I loved you In my research. I love finding

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Speaker 1: Right who was walking into?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? You don't know what you're walking into and if

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Speaker 2: you find out while you're investigating that these motherfuckers was

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Speaker 2: And it's really a quick Google search you could find

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Speaker 1: Now, can you describe your earliest memories a paranormal activity

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Speaker 4: Oh girl, let's get into it. Yes girl, because it

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Speaker 4: when I tell you, Okay, So I always attribute my

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Speaker 4: she used to watch all that shit. So we was like, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Uh, Sterudica, go all the way, Come on, We grew

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Speaker 2: Yep mm hm. And I honestly have no idea how

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, girl, she's still I'm not kidding to this day,

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Speaker 2: Wow. Like it was a regular occurrence, and there was

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Speaker 2: she this She wasn't dreaming. This was a real woman

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Speaker 1: So before you consent, you this just came up to

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Speaker 2: If it is something like if you're purchasing a property,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that it's like they're obligated to

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Speaker 2: But if you buy a house, you're kind are like

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Speaker 1: Because I think I was reading somewhere where in some

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm yep. And I think they should honestly, I

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Speaker 1: Especially with KI Come on now, right, yep, So did

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Speaker 1: you gotta know? Right? So, did you ever feel frightened

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Speaker 2: I did, But at the same time, it became so

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Speaker 2: It was just it was as easy to live with

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on? Where's my wife? And

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Speaker 1: to this because obviously you're alive. Well, but why is

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00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: that that spirits are not able to move on to

438
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: either heaven or hell? Like why do It's not like

439
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: they always stuck? Like, how is that possible? Do you know?

440
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: Personally? I don't know. I do believe that there is

441
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: an afterlife for everybody, but I also think maybe sometimes

442
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: people get lost along the way and they just kind

443
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: of end up in places. I don't think that a

444
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: person that died in a particular place is going to

445
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: automatically be tethered to that particular place. For example, there

446
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: is a nursing home just in front of this building here,

447
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: and we have had patients that there have been patients

448
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: that have passed away down and just so happened to

449
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: find their way up here. Whenever we do investigations, we

450
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: try to figure out the name. And we tried to

451
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: look online and look up obituaries and see if we

452
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: can figure out who this person might be. And we

453
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: actually found a person, a gentleman that we were talking to,

454
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: had passed away at that nursing home two weeks prior

455
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: to us conversing with him here in this house. So

456
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: I genuinely think people just get lost. Sometimes people aren't

457
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: able to find the light that is supposedly in the afterlife,

458
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: and they kind of just get stuck in this sort

459
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: of middle ground purgatory area. So of course that's just

460
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: my own assumption. I don't know for a full fact,

461
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: but it's definitely very very interesting to think about. For sure.

462
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: Now, the other people in the building that you grew

463
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: up in, did they also see these entities?

464
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Yep? There was one guy, the headless guy would kind

465
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: of go from a apartment to apartment all throughout the building.

466
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: The Spanish lady has I've seen her in different apartments,

467
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: and I've seen her in like different hallways and like

468
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: the steps and stuff. A few other people in the

469
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: apartment building stated that they had things happened to them,

470
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: or they would hear things, They would hear conversation, they

471
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: would have stuff being moved, like poltergeist activity, basically, and

472
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: everybody just kind of kept it to themselves, and they

473
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: would kind of speak to like all the adults would

474
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: kind of speak to each other in a hush sort

475
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: of way just to not alarm, like bring any alarm

476
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: bells with the kids. With the kids were also dealing

477
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: with that same shit too. My niece when she was

478
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: living there, she was pretty young. Her and her cousin

479
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: would say that they would play with a man in

480
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: the hallway a lot of times in our apartment. They

481
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: didn't know who he was, but they would just be

482
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: like laughing and giggling and like having a grand old time.

483
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: And we'd be like, who are you talking to? And

484
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: they're like the man, and like, we don't know. We

485
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: couldn't see this man. She still remembers to this day.

486
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: One day he was in the hallway with her and

487
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: her cousin and he scared the living daylights out of them,

488
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: and after that they refused to play with him. Every

489
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: time they saw him, they would like cry and they

490
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: were just like he's he's a bad man because he's

491
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: going too yeah.

492
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically like he was doing too much.

493
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: She was much, and they were not. They were not

494
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: with it, honestly, they were.

495
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: How many spirits you think you saw? Do you think

496
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: you saw in the building?

497
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: One? Two, three, four, five, oh six six six?

498
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: That I've interacted with in just our apartment alone.

499
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: And I remember there being a little a little kid,

500
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a boy or girl.

501
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: Me and my sister were getting like our plates together

502
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: for dinner, and we were singing, uh, oh, she's gonna

503
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: hate me for not remembering the song, oh can you

504
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: think that?

505
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

506
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: And we were just singing that in the kitchen and

507
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: we stopped and in the living room just off of

508
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: the kitchen, we could hear a little boy or a

509
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: little voice go can you.

510
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

511
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: It was so wild. And when I tell you, even

512
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: though we were scared in that moment, we didn't drop

513
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: not one. We didn't. We left our plates right in

514
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: our hands and we went to run into my mama room.

515
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: We weren't leaving our dinner there. But yeah, it was

516
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: a common occurrence for us growing up, having something paranormal

517
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: happen to us. And even with my two older brothers too,

518
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: they would have stuff happen, but they were kind of

519
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: just like ignore it, you know, They're.

520
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Just like, right, do your no.

521
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: My mother, my sister, and my brother actually live here

522
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: in Marietta, Ohio with me. Cool not with me physically,

523
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: but they lived in this area.

524
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Right now, you mentioned your high sensitivity to encounters. Are

525
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: there any particular locations in New York that you tend

526
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: to avoid due to your sensitivity?

527
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: The main place that I will avoid is ground zero. Okay,

528
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: so here's another story. Once again, I have story on

529
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: top of story, on top of story. This was I

530
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: was I think it was just it was my twentieth

531
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: birthday and me and my boyfriend at the time he's

532
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: now my husband. We were walking. We were walking to

533
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: like a local restaurant in that area, but we had

534
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: to pass Round zero. Now, if you're familiar with that

535
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: particular area, there is a church, or at least at

536
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: that time, there was a church there, and the church

537
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: had a gate up around it and it had great

538
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: He was in the front yard. As we're walking past

539
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: this church, I see a man in a suit all

540
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: tattered and stuff, and he's like, and mind you, this

541
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: is at nighttime. He's like confused, and he's scratching his

542
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: hand and he doesn't know what's going on. He's pacing,

543
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: he's pacing, and I'm just looking at him, like, oh God,

544
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: there's a crackhead in the graveyard. And I'm just like, lord,

545
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this like businessman crackhead doing in

546
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: the graveyard?

547
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: Right right?

548
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: And at whatever point it was, he had made eye

549
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: contact with me, and he it seemed like he teleported

550
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: from the middle of the graveyard to the gate. Oh yes,

551
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: And I kind of stopped because it scared me. I

552
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: stopped and he was at the gate like with his

553
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: face in between the bars, and he was mouthing, help me,

554
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: help me. I don't know, help me. And I can

555
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: only assume that maybe it was one of the people

556
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: that either perished in the one of the twin towers.

557
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: Maybe you might have jumped and he was just kind

558
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: of trapped there. Of course, I had explained to my

559
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: husband that I'm sensitive and I have things that happen

560
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: sometimes it just don't make any sense, seem kind of weird.

561
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: So he just stood there with me he's like, are

562
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: you okay, what's going on? Like, pack me through this?

563
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: And I told him. I was like, there's a man

564
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: right here, literally right here, and he's just like at

565
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: the gate thing help me. I don't know, help me.

566
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: And he's like, okay, well, let's cross the street and

567
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: just keep going. I don't want you to get stuck

568
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: in this moment because it's a lot.

569
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

570
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: And then of course we passed the sight of Brown

571
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: zero and I could feel like my heart just like pounding.

572
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: I was just so nervous. And eventually we get to

573
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: the restaurant, I get a drink to kind of calm

574
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: my nerves and everything. And we're walking back to the

575
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: train station that's over there, and the man in the

576
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: grit yard sees me again and he is at the fence.

577
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: He has his arms out through it. He's like, help,

578
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: I fell, help, I need help. I fell. And I'm

579
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: like I can't help you. I'm sorry, and I didn't

580
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: know what to do, and I just started crying, and

581
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: of course my husband was just like, it's okay, he's

582
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: going to find help. He's he's at the church. Somebody's

583
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 2: going to help him. You're okay, and he kind of

584
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: just like helped me with that, and it was just

585
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: it was definitely a lot and even still to this day,

586
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: I won't I won't ever go back to that area ever, ever, ever.

587
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Ever, you know, shout out to your husband, because some

588
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: niggas would have been freaked out literally whoa.

589
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: Well, realistically, my husband is.

590
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay to oide from hey y'all, yes, yes.

591
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: The Caucasian descent. So even though he wasn't really he's

592
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: not into the paranormal type of stuff, he knows that

593
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm sensitive, and so he tries to help me through that.

594
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: He's very much like disconnected from all sort of paranormal stuff,

595
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: so I kind of see him as a like he's

596
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: very grounded in a way, so he kind of pulls

597
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: me back from that.

598
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: So two things I think. The first thing is, I

599
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: think what's even more said is that the ghosts can

600
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: see when people see them mm hmmy. But unfortunately some

601
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: people just can't help them mm hmm.

602
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: And and it sucks too, because, like I said, there's

603
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: a lot of spirits that kind of just gets sucked

604
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: in one place and they don't know what to do,

605
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: what to do. Some of them don't know that they've

606
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 2: passed on, and especially with something that traumatic, that is

607
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: just the worst way to possibly go.

608
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

609
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: But in many ways, I'm happy that he didn't get

610
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: trapped in the grounds of ground zero and that his

611
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: spirit was transported to a church. Maybe that's some place

612
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: that's a little bit safer for him, you know, even

613
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: though he's still I hope that he's not still an

614
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: anguish or pain or anything. I hope that he has

615
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: found peace, And I kind of think about that at

616
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: least a couple of times a month. Honestly, I really

617
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: do keep him in my prayers and keep him in

618
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: my thoughts constantly. But it's it's I'm just happy that

619
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: he even though he passed away in ground zero, he

620
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: was able to go someplace that would tractically technically be

621
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: considered a safe space like a church.

622
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: Right, So, how are you able because I think I

623
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: read somewhere that you used to go to cemeteries when

624
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: he was growing up. Yes, So how were you able

625
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: to do that? Was that not a lie for you?

626
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: Cemeteries, for me, for some odd reason, are very calming.

627
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: The original purpose for a cemetery. Actually a lot of

628
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: people don't realize this.

629
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: I won't take us the history class come on exactly.

630
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: In the Victorian times, like the late seventeen hundreds early

631
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds, a lot of families saw cemeteries as a

632
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: place of peace and comfort, and they would actually have

633
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: picnics there with their dead relatives. Obviously, a lot of

634
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: the people that have passed away nowadays, especially those old

635
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: old cemeteries, they don't have anybody visiting them anymore. They

636
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: don't have people putting flowers on their graves anymore, and

637
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 2: their graves are a lot of times just kind of.

638
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: The time and weather just wears on like the gravestones itself.

639
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: But cemeteries were supposed to be a place where families

640
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: can congregate and keep their loved one in their memory. Yeah,

641
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: and a lot of people have lost that tradition many ways.

642
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: So I like to go to cemeteries not only because

643
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: they are peaceful to me, but also to spend time

644
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: with those people that had passed away and their family

645
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: members had long passed away and their descendants have long

646
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 4: forgotten about them, and just kind of.

647
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: Spend time with them. Everybody deserves to have somebody that

648
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: cares about them. And even though cemeteries are seen as

649
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: something that's like, that's spooky, or some people might see

650
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: it as being disrespectful to just go into a cemetery,

651
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: of going to a place where you don't even know

652
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: who's in there right, like you don't have any connection

653
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: with them. I see it in my head as we're

654
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: all supposed to be family in a way, and we're

655
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: all supposed to be connected in a way, and just

656
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: because they're dead doesn't mean that they're forgotten. So it

657
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: never hurts to go back and eat some chicken nuggets

658
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: and just talk.

659
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think we see ghos in the regular

660
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: because I feel like, even though I know you're in Ohio,

661
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: but I feel like in New York we just see

662
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: mad Man random shit, but we just disregarded. So you

663
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: do you think that sometimes we'd be seeing shit and

664
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: it's actually a ghost. A lot of ways, yes, because

665
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: a lot of spirits can present themselves as a full

666
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: bodied apparition, which is basically just as solid and as

667
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: real as me and you. Of course, then you have

668
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: spirits that are a little bit more opaque. They can

669
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: you can kind of see through feed through them in

670
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: a way. A lot of people have poultrygeis activity that happened,

671
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: but they're just like, hmm, I wonder if.

672
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: That was this or that was that. We have a

673
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 2: we have like a trigger in our brains to think

674
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: of things very logically, which is why there are so

675
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: many people that aren't in the paranormal community that are

676
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: skeptics because it don't make sist. Yes exactly, it's it

677
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's paranormal.

678
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: There just has to be a logical explanation for it.

679
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: And so some people have a very logical way of

680
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: thinking about things. So if you see a mug slide

681
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: across the countertop, you could just be like, oh, oh,

682
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: there was water underneath that, so that's the reason why

683
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: that month slid across the countertop. You can say if

684
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: a door closes, you can be like, oh, well, maybe

685
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: it's because I'm in a high rise and the wind

686
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: was swaying the building and that could have caused the

687
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: door to close.

688
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 4: If you hear footsteps, you could automatically think, Okay, that's

689
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: just my neighbor upstairs.

690
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm just misreading the situation. So there's little things here

691
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: and there that a lot of people have happened to them.

692
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: On a regular basis, but they just disprove it as

693
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: something paranormal because the logical part in their mind is

694
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: telling them that it's not anything to be afraid of.

695
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: Right, not for nothing. I feel like I shared this

696
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: story before, but one time when I was living in Brooklyn,

697
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: and I got in the bed because I do believe

698
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: in spirits and stuff, like, I definitely believe that there

699
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: are other entities amongst us. Yes, And I was in

700
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: the bed about to go to sleep, and I'm by

701
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: myself and no, Lie, I felt something get in the

702
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: bed with me. Like you could tell you know, when

703
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: somebody in the bed you feel the pressure. I felt

704
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: something get in the bed with me and put their

705
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: arm around me. And when I tell you, I jump

706
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: up And I was like, nope, I said, listen, I said,

707
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know who you are. I'm like,

708
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was my grandma, I don't

709
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: know if it was an ancestry. Oh, I said, but

710
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: we don't do that. I was, so, I'm gonna give

711
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: you a little minute to get your ass back out

712
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: the bed. I'm like, because now you're make you're making

713
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: me feel very uncomfortable. I was like, and then they

714
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: just left. But I would never forget that feeling because

715
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I thought I was dreaming at first,

716
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: but I was like, I wasn't asleep, and I was like,

717
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: oh no, no, nope, I said, you gotta go go

718
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: sitd in the corner or something. But no, eye, you're

719
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: too close.

720
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's crazy when stuff's like that happens to

721
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: you and it's like straight off the cup, like you

722
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: didn't expect it, and it's just like super random. Thankfully,

723
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: I have never brought anything home with me. I've never

724
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: had anything paranormal happen in my adult life, in my home,

725
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: in my space.

726
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: I am very much protected. I don't play that. Yeah,

727
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: you know, I'm very protected.

728
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: But in those moments where I go places and things happen,

729
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: is like sometimes can be like very terrifying, but sometimes

730
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: it can be just like, oh okay, I see you, queen.

731
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: Like about an hour and forty five minutes away from here,

732
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: there is a place called trans Allegating Lunatic Asylum.

733
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: It's in Western Western Girl.

734
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: When I tell you, oh my gosh, that place is insane.

735
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: I go there at least once twice a year. It's amazing.

736
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: I always have something happened to me. Me and my

737
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: husband went there to do one of their like nighttime

738
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: like flashlight tours and stuff. I know, I know, I know,

739
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: putting myself in a situation. I know he listened. He

740
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: once again, he is support system. He's an ally, right,

741
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: So we just we just let them live. So we

742
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: go to this place and there were children at were

743
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: housed there. It was mostly for adults, but if you

744
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: had a patient that had a baby and she didn't

745
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: have any family members, then they would keep the kids.

746
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: There in the asylum. Some of the kids passed away there,

747
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: And as we're walking through one of the hallways, I

748
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 4: feel a child hold my hand.

749
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: Nope, yep, And in that moment, I have kids, so

750
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 2: I know what that felt like. And even though it's

751
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: very jarring, very surprising, and very much like a big no,

752
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: at the same time, the mother and me kicked in

753
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: and I was just like, Okay, you can hold my hand,

754
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: you can stay as long as you need to. I'm

755
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: like a safe space for you, because whether our child

756
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: is dead or alive, if I'm interacting with them, I

757
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: want them to know that they are safe. So I

758
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: held onto their hand and as we're walking doing a tour,

759
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: was holding my hand and it fell cold and it

760
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: felt staticky, and I kept looking down and I didn't

761
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: see anything, but I could feel little, tiny, little hands,

762
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: like maybe of like a four or five year old

763
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: hold in my hand. And I told my husband, I'm like,

764
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: there's a little kid holding my hand right now. And

765
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: he went to the side that the kid was holding

766
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: my hand, and he crouched down and he's like, I

767
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: know it's probably scary here, but you're safe with us.

768
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: It's okay. So he stood on that side and he

769
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: put his hand down to see if it would hold

770
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: his hand. He didn't feel anything hold his hand, but

771
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: he still stayed on that side, just so whatever child

772
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: that was knew that it was it was safe. We

773
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: walked through and we were going to one of the

774
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: criminally insane areas, and I would assume the child was

775
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: not allowed to be over there, because as we're walking

776
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: through that hallway, I feel like the fingers just kind

777
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: of let go slowly, and I stopped in the hallway.

778
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: My husband stops in the hallway and I tell them,

779
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: I was like, you can come with me, it's okay.

780
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: And I could feel like swirling. It was like cold

781
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: air just kind of swirling in front of me, and

782
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: I was just like, it's okay, like you can come

783
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: with me, you can walk with me. I will make

784
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: sure you're safe in this place. And my husband put

785
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: his hand there and he felt the cold air too,

786
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, we're going this way. If

787
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: you want to come hold my hand again, you can.

788
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: And obviously it couldn't come past that sort of barrier.

789
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: So I stayed in its area because realistically, criminally insane

790
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: part is absolutely bonkers bananas, So I would happily keep

791
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: a kid out of that area. Yeah, but it was

792
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: still very much it was very jarring. But at the

793
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: same time, like I said, my mother leave like nurturing side. Yeah,

794
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: my instinct just kicked in to just protect it. You know.

795
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: It was a spooky moment, but very very sweet and

796
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: very in my opinion.

797
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about going back to your apartment

798
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: that you grew up in and doing any like investigations

799
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: there or documents all? Really no, because.

800
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: It's even when I was growing up there it was

801
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: pretty bad. So it's gotten worse.

802
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: With the neighborhood or just the building.

803
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: The building and that neighborhood has gotten worse, So I

804
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: don't plan on going back there ever again, if I

805
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: can hope, if I can hold on to that sort

806
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: of thing, especially to do an investigation, because right now,

807
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: from what I've been.

808
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: Told, it's not a very good place to be. Like

809
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: I said, when I was growing up there, there were

810
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: like gang members, there were drugs, there were cops, there

811
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: were shootouts and stuff like that. So just to know

812
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: that when I was growing up there that was happening

813
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: and it's gotten worse.

814
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So what is your advice to individuals who

815
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: feel like they're grown they live in a hunting house,

816
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: but just don't know what to do.

817
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Make sure that you are protected at all times, and

818
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: in regards to what or a belief system that you

819
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: might have, you can pray to whichever god you are

820
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: more comfortable praying with. You can also use different tools

821
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: to protect yourself. Some people pay like the evil Eye

822
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: over their door just to kind of ward off negativity.

823
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Some people put like salt at their front door and

824
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So there's there's several different things that

825
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: you can do. But overall, I think making sure that

826
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: you set those boundaries, letting whatever spirits might be there,

827
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: know that you are comfortable exactly, I'm not with the shifts.

828
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: You gotta, you gotta. Like I said, I always tell

829
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: spirits if you're not playing on paying my bills, picking

830
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: up bill, getting a job, and cleaning my don't don't.

831
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: I don't count for it that I already got. I

832
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: already got three three people in my house that already

833
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: give me a headache. I don't need to add you

834
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: onto the onto the tally, you know I don't need that.

835
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: But just making sure you set your boundaries, making sure

836
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: that you say out loud what your intention are. I'm

837
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: living here, this is my space, this is my happy place.

838
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 2: You need to understand that. You need to know when

839
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: it's time for you to just leave me alone. Fine

840
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: with us, especially if it's been going on for a while.

841
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: Just basically saying I'm fine with us sharing the space together.

842
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: You were here first, so I understand that. But you

843
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: have to understand when I need space, I need space.

844
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: You need to give me that. So I think just

845
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: setting boundaries, just like you would with a person, is

846
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: going to be beneficial.

847
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: Now before we get into your career. I just this

848
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: question just popped in my head. What are your thoughts

849
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: on people having sex with goals, like, do you think

850
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: that's true? Not to scratching your.

851
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: Head, Listen, I don't think that that is true. But

852
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: I think people think that they are having sex with

853
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: a ghost. It's all about what you feel. Everybody, every

854
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: physical body is different, so everybody's gonna feel things differently.

855
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: Some people can, lack of better words, get off and

856
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: not even touch themselves, you know. So maybe the combination

857
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: of possibly living in a place that's haunted and having

858
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: the ability to get off while not doing anything physically

859
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: to yourself can be a recipe for them thinking, oh my.

860
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: God, I just find a recipe.

861
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, like they out here. No, yeah, no,

862
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: I don't think that that is a possibility. And if

863
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: it is, I mean I could be proven wrong. Not

864
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: any nothing's to possible, you know, something impossible in my opinion,

865
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: it's just very improbable. Right.

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