WEBVTT - Deadpool & Wolverine Reactions 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:00.880 Warning. 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:06.080 Today's episode, after about ten minutes of spoiler free conversation, 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:27.400 will contain spoilers for Deadpool and Wolverine. Hello, my name 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.440 is Jason Concepcion and on Wedsday Night, and welcome back 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.479 to x Revision of the podcast where we dive deep 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.720 many of your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture, 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.840 coming to you from My Heart podcast, where we're bringing 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.800 you to episodes week every Tuesday and Thursday. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.800 In today's episode, it's a big air lock chat about 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.440 Deadpool and Wolverine. As Jason mentioned in the first ten minutes, 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.280 are gonna be spoiler free. We're gonna sell the movie 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.560 to you. We're gonna tell you who is this movie for? 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.240 Was the advertising correct? Do you want to see it? 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.680 Did we enjoy it? But then it's gonna go full spoilers. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.400 And I have to say this is the rare movie 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.160 that I'm actually really glad I didn't get spoiled for. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.040 I usually don't mind, but there was some moments in 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.840 which really took my breath away, So I'm saying be careful. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.720 And after that little ten minute count, we will do 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.840 another spoiler warning. And if you haven't seen it, I 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:17.920 would say go and check. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.000 It out, and that's gonna be the spoiler conversation. Is 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.000 gonna be a free flowing conversation containing many spoilers about 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:28.480 a lot of different topics, including who appears in this movie, cameos, 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.760 where this leaves us, etc. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.759 And comic books, et cetera, et cetera. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:40.280 So let's jump into it. Okay, Rosie, we have seen 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.720 Deadpool and Wolverine. Sell this movie to someone who's like, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.200 I really want to see this or I'm slightly on 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.960 the fence about seeing it. Uh, I don't. I've seen 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.200 all the trailers and is this movie for me? Sell 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.200 it to a Rosie? 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.840 Do you like violence? 0:01:59.720 --> 0:01:59.760 You? 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.560 Looney Tunes style actions? 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:03.920 Time? 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.760 Do you love the MCU? Are you somebody who goes 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.680 to the movie theater often? Do you enjoy cinema? Do 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:17.000 you enjoy cinematic references? Do you enjoy comic book references? 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.840 These are the things that you are going to need 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.480 to enjoy if you want to enjoy this movie. Are 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.800 you someone who has at times sat around with your 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.160 friends and riffed on ideas about what you might want 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.320 to see in a movie like this? This may well 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.400 bring some of those ideas to life. I would say 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.119 that you go with your friends, you just be prepared 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.880 to see some gory action and some a lot of jokes, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.480 lots of bits going on here. And that's that's what 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.760 I would say, Jason, what about you? 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.760 Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with everything you said. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.480 And I would say, do you like are you a 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:01.040 fan of the first two Deadpool movies that kind of tone, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:06.600 that kind of snecker a huge the genre tone, Then 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.800 you're gonna like this movie because all of that is 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.119 amped up, amped up, I would say, yeah, a good 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.320 ten to fifteen percent over what you've seen before. More jokes, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:26.920 more meta commentary, more winking, lots of fourth wall, lots 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.840 of like meta commentary on the fourth wall and what 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.280 it means. All of that makes it sound smarter. It's 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.040 actually pretty smart for how dumb it is. Yeah, it's 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.360 a very it's a very very smart dumb movie. Yeah, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.680 and it knows what it is and it's giving that 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.119 to you. Do you love the characters Deadpool and Wolverine? 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:50.160 Do you love those two characters? Yes? From their comics appearances, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.520 from their movie appearances, and guess what it's all, it's 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.200 all there. Are you a fan of the X movies 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.160 in general. As spotty as that track record is, You're 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.880 gonna like this, You're gonna love this stuff. Have you 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:11.880 been invested in comic book movies from jump I'm talking 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.480 about from the time this movement started several decades ago. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:22.080 You're gonna like this movie. Do you love surprises? 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.839 Is that something that brings something to your Do. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.760 You go to the cinema to be like, I wanna 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.520 be shocked? I want to be like, oh my god. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:38.479 What do you go to the movies specifically because you 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:43.839 love those in theater moments where the whole audience has 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:44.480 a reaction. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.520 You will enjoy this movie. There is many of those moments. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.279 If you are worried that everything that you've seen in 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.520 the trailer is all the movie has to offer, that 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:56.360 is not the case. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:57.760 Definitely nothing. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.840 I would say the trailer is representative the tone and 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.359 vibe of the film, But when it comes to what 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:09.599 is contained within the film and tho, yeah, you get 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.760 a lot more of those surprising, shocking moments, those those 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.680 kind of everybody gasps or everybody cheers moments. So if 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.679 you go for that communal experience of cinema where everyone's 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:25.000 laughing out loud, cheering, They're surprised, they're shocked. This is 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.680 another one of those movies. I will also say I 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.520 would just put it out there one more time. I know, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.440 especially in our discord, we have some people who are 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:35.000 not Gore fans. This is the glorious supermovie you will 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:39.440 ever see. So prepare yourself, Prepare your fans, Prepare your friends, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.479 Prepare your kids, whoever you're going to go and see 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.000 it with. Just have that in mind. But it is 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.960 a very comedic, looney tune style of Gore. But there 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.160 are still definitely some moments where if I was like 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.320 the ex when I was a kid, I was very existential. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.479 If there were a couple of moments where if I'd 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.600 seen that when I was like ten, it would have 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.440 like haunted me. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:06.200 There are at least two haunting, potentially haunting moments of Gore. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.200 And I would say further still, I think one of 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.880 the criticisms, maybe of Wolverine's early appearances in the movies 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.280 has been we don't really see him cut loose. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:20.960 Oh baby, you want to see Bizark. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.600 There's a reason for that, because what you would get 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.599 as an R rated movie, you know, in terms of 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:32.839 the violent content and and uh, that violent content would 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:40.480 include how adamantium razor sharp adimantium a weaponry would affect 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.320 the human body that is in this movie. You will 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.240 get that. You will see that. And again it's more 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.120 of like a Looney Tunes We're not you know, nobody's like, 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:55.600 You're not like, oh no, that was horrific in what 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.720 I've seen, the someone's life was extinguished in the most 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.400 flesh shredding terrible. What you're not gonna feel. It is 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:09.120 like a cartoon that said, visually you can see that. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.320 You're gonna see a lot of stuff. You know what. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.640 I will say as well, the biggest selling point to 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.880 this movie that I wasn't necessarily expecting, which may sound silly, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.800 but you know what, it's not called versus, It's called 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.559 and so I'm saying, if you've always dreamt of seeing 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.640 Deadpool and Wolverine fighting on screen, this is the movie 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.480 for you. It is the this is the movie for you, baby. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.120 And one last thing again, if you I think Rosie 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.080 said it so well, do you see a lot of movies? 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.480 Have you seen every comic book movie? Have you seen 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.200 more movies than normal? 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:44.920 Mm hmm? 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.600 Is your lesson feel. Do you want to feel, for 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.280 once in your life, that you're rewarded for that dedication. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.480 This movie will reward you. When I say fan service, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.680 it's less fan service and more fan real warding. Do 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.960 you want to feel rewarded for being a fan? 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.040 This does feel like a movie that was specifically Yes, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.000 for that purpose. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.960 This movie will reward will say, we appreciate. We know 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.880 that you've seen all this stuff. We know that you've 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.360 paid attention, We know that you know what goes on 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.880 behind the scenes to make these movies. You're gonna be 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:29.880 rewarded watching this movie because of that. And with that, Yes, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:36.679 we shall now proceed behind the curtain. Yes to the 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:49.160 spoiler area oft and we are leaving all of you 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.240 who have not yet seen Deadpool and Wolverine but wanted 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:57.680 to know about it, leaving you behind that curtain as 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.160 we proceed to the inner sanctum where all the gore 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:06.000 and all the cameos will be discussed. Goodbye and for friends, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.960 and welcome everyone who has seen the film to the intersect. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:27.839 Yeah, here we are. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:30.760 We see dead Pull Wolverine. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:32.240 We don't. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:40.440 I don't think we need to recap the plot because plot. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.200 This movie is more like you're watching a ton of 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.719 vignettes on like Mad TV, but that's all about Dead 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.719 Pull and Wolverine. Yeah, it's lots of There's a lot 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.480 of bits in this movie, guys. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.320 A lot of bits. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.280 Now here's the movie works for me on this level. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:03.720 It is a machine gu of jokes and and for 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.840 me at least, I think every joke landed and was 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.040 really funny. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.079 The jokes they do hit, and there are of them. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.120 There are a lot, a lot a lot of them. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.960 Now important thing to note, I saw this movie in 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:24.640 fucking Burbank in a crowd that was like clearly extremely 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.160 movie literate. Many people who work in the movie industry 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.040 at some level, either in the marketing side, in production itself, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:40.240 or are kind of jobs. And so every random movie 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.000 joke there's a Again, we're in the spoiler section, so 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:44.960 I'm gonna give you a last chance if you have 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.120 proceeded to get the fuck out of here right now. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.319 At the end of this movie, there is a there 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.760 is a Star Trek two. You know, the big climax 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:01.960 of Star Trek to the emotional climaxes Spock is he 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.360 goes into the Edgine room where he's I massively irradiated, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.400 and that he puts his hand on the window and 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.640 says goodbye to Captain Kirket. It's heart wrenching. Yeah, there's 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.160 a fucking reference to that as a diet at the 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.320 end of the Yeah, there's a direct joke about that 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.800 at the end of this movie. And Yeah, everybody in 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.160 my theater got it. That's a forty two year old movie. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.080 I don't know when, like a forty year old movie, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:32.360 will that hit elsewhere in this country. I truly do 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.440 not know, And my guess is going to be no, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.920 a lot of like the joke hit rate is going 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.520 to be a lot lower. So in that sense, I 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.440 do wonder how this will be regarded outside of this 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.280 bubble that we are in. But at least the theater 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:53.320 I was in laugh out loud for every joke, got 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:58.400 every reference and was delighted, particularly at the skewering of 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.160 like fai Y Marvel comic book movies in general, got 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.120 all of those jokes. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.440 So I definitely agree with you. I am interested to 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:12.680 see what the the wide range popularity of this movie is. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.400 So something that we always do when we're not going 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.160 to the screenings or going to screens is we always 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.480 watch the They live stream the premieres and they're really 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.040 interesting to watch because you can kind of see the 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.880 conversations the filmmakers are having. Right, so we live stream 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.760 the premiere because it was in New York. It was 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.680 on before we went to the screening, and I found 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.080 it very interesting because they kept saying things like, this 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.200 is a movie anyone can go and see. This is 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.520 a movie where you don't need any homework. This is 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.520 just like a fun movie. This is also a movie 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.920 that doesn't exploit it's R rating. This is a movie 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.520 that's about friendship. It's not really about Ryan Reynolds seeing 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.440 the movie like this movie is. First of all, it 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.600 opens with in my opinion, like I do think it 0:12:55.760 --> 0:13:00.440 peaks quite early because the opening credit sequence is absolutely fantastic, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.680 where they essentially say, how do you bring Logan back 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.880 in a way that is respectful? And they go, you 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.480 can't do it, So let's do the most disrespectful thing possible. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.600 Let's dig up his body and use his adamantium skeleton 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.320 to kill a bunch of TVA agents. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.760 There's such a funny setup in joke where you open 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.680 up he's digging. He's at the famous gravesite from the 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.880 end of Logan, the Wooden X, still marking the spot. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.640 He's digging, digging, digging, digging, and there's this build up 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.960 and then there's this tight shot of Deadpool. He's dug 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:37.240 up the corpse and he says, well, Logan, unfortunately you 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.000 are incredibly passed away, and then it goes well, yeah, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:40.880 because he thinks. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.360 He would regenerate, right, and he assumes he's still alive 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.160 body yeah, And then he uses the skeleton to kill 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.400 these TVA agents and as he's doing it, they do 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.120 these kind of three D esque shots where the bones 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.680 are coming towards you. It says Hugh Jackman on the 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.520 skulls head. And I think that that is one of 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.600 the best directed actually sequences we get in the film. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:06.199 And it's a really dynamic, outrageous this is what you get, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.160 Like it tells you what you're gonna get in the 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.400 opening of the movie, and I think that is like 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.079 a really fun, outrageous way to start. But as soon 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.959 as that happened, I was like, Ryan Reynolds, you exploiting 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.800 the R rated movie, Like there is a different era 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.480 that we would live in that this would have been 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.360 pushing an. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.560 X rated now not to mention like homework. I mean, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.920 oh my gosh, we're gonna talk about cameos. Now, let's 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:33.400 talk about homework. If you have not seen elektra you're 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.880 gonna be like what. If you have not seen the 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.240 original Blade movie trilogy or move you know movie or trilogy, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.080 you're gonna be like what. There are gonna be people 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.040 who are truly confused. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.360 Not even just if you don't understand that, if you 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.400 don't know that there has been a ten year rumor 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.080 and production hell version of Gambit that was gonna start 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:01.320 chanting right you, then you will not you will be 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.600 like what that was so funny? But I have to say, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.920 in my screening, which was in the Grove, it was 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.840 it was a press screening, really, there was not that 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.160 many people who understood why Gambit was. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.520 That people got it. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.240 Yeah, I've read people really back. Everyone in that screening 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.520 had probably like written a treatment for that movie that 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.960 never got made. But like in that way, I do 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:29.760 think I don't know if they're overestimating the interest or 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.760 comic book literacy or like the understanding that people. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.680 I mean, this movie is these movies. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:36.640 Like the joke buck. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.960 Yeah, the the action obviously you don't need the homework, 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.080 and some of the gags, but I would say fifty 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.160 to sixty percent of the jokes are like you know 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.080 about comic book movies. You know what you know about movies, 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.840 You know about the reporting that's gone on around movies, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.080 and therefore you will get this joke. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.240 I mean even to the point where, like I think 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.280 one of the cameos that made people lose their ship 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.240 the most in the screening I went to is like 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.360 so basically the setup of the movie, even though you 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.680 should have seen the movie, if you've listening to. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:17.560 This part, you've gotten get the you see this movie, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.400 but like, yeah, go back to the degment of work. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.600 Depo wants to save his world, which is gonna get 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.000 erased by Tom from Succession because he's bored of waiting 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.600 around for these lines carriage. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:34.239 I have to say put some respect on praise paradox. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.400 I love I love seeing him here. It's great. But 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.400 I will say this is one of this is where 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.920 one of my one of my first like wrinkles of 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.840 this movie comes. I think it is a totally wasted 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:50.200 opportunity and I don't understand why the meta conversation and 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.840 the meta jokes don't extend to why they have to 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.520 get rid of the Fox universe, like it needed to 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.080 go that She Hulk level of saying like Kevin Faige's 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.600 making us get rid of your universe because Disney doesn't 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.960 need it anymore, like the idea that they just wanted 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.879 to get rid of it because like it's anchor being 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.879 is gone. And did a exposition. I was like, guys, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.400 this is a Deadpool movie. You can literally just say 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.560 you have to get rid of it because of the MCU. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.480 I thought it was I thought it was appropriate. I 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.880 thought the jokes were pointed but appropriately respectful. I think 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.120 I will. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.840 Say I have to say I do think if I 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.000 had a if I had a general critique of the movie, 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.640 I think it's a bit too it's a bit too 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.280 kind to Disney, which I understand is the nature of 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.679 being owned by Disney. But I do think that the 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:42.000 satire is imbalanced in that way where in something like Sheholk, 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.800 we got the evil Robot, you know, Kevin and stuff 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.760 like that, I feel like they could have leaned a 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.920 bit more into the meta text. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:54.920 About I don't disagree, but I will say that I 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:59.560 thought that they got more Kevin Figy slash Disney jokes 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.879 through than I think anybody was expected. And you agree 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.240 with you that that they were. They were kind of 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.520 much more. They weren't really ever mean to Fox, but 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.120 they were. They definitely went in. 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.800 The idea is like Fox sucks and Disney's the way 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.280 you want to be because it's the MCU and those 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.240 are the kind of jokes you're gang, which honestly it's 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.120 not untrue, like those are those are right, those are 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.680 correct kind of like readings of the situation. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.359 But but I do think but I do think that 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.840 they I do think that in terms of the Disney 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.720 joke content, they went. Part of the fun that you 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.120 will have watching this movie will be like, oh my god, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.080 I can't believe they let them do that. Like there's 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.960 one where again, if you're here and you haven't seen 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.400 this movie, get. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:43.320 The fuck out. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.520 But there's one where where Deadpool has you know, met 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.679 up with all the shocking cameos by now you know 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.520 it's Wesley Snipes, it's Blade. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:19:01.200 Which for me, Blade that was a gas Nobody knew 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:01.920 that was happening. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:07.880 Yeah, and and Deadpool says you know, Welcome to Disney. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.640 You're joining at a little bit of a low point. Yes, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.880 that was That was That was one where I was like, wow, 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.680 I can't believe they let them put that one in there. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:16.520 That was a little bit. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.080 That was also I think I thought that was funny 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.760 and that one got a big laugh, and it's like, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.280 I think that's where the movie is strongest, where it 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.240 can be completely honest about the scope and scale of 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.680 like where we are in these movies. But I mean 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.000 going back to our thing about like, so they go 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.040 their paradox is going to get rid of the universe 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.680 because he's tired of waiting for it to die naturally. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.960 So Deadpool has to save the universe rather than kill 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.119 the universe as we had predicted. Goes to this place 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.159 called the Void where the TVA kind of sends unwanted things. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.879 I will say, very very clever narrative device to just 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.520 be able to have any cameos you want. So this 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.439 is how in the conversation you have to be to 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.720 truly understand these movies. Chris Evans is in the movie Shocking, 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.399 another Shocking one that was a mind blower, and this 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.480 he is in the movie to suit a purpose that 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.639 me and my friends at the comic book shop, Me 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.240 and Jason, me and whoever have been talking about for 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:15.800 no joke, like a decade. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.120 Right. 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.879 You see him, He's in this kind of nomad esque 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.400 suare you see him? It's Captain America. He's gonna say 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.359 Avengers Assemble, and then he says flame on and he 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.119 flies up into the sky and it's actually Chris Evans 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.520 playing Johnny Storm from The Fantastic Four. That is a 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.080 joke and a riff that people have been making in 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.679 these scenes for like almost a decade, right, And the 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.600 show the movie is so in conversation with those people 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.600 that that is the joke. And I think like that 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.640 shows that this idea that you don't have to do 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.120 homework to understand the movie, I just don't think it's true. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:54.920 And I do think they did sell it that way. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.919 But if you've done the homework and you are in 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.320 those spaces, you're gonna be cheering about. 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.359 I think that's part of the thing. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:02.040 I think. 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:07.840 You know, I do agree that like obviously you're your homework. 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.240 The level of homework that you've done will increase your 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.320 satisfaction seeing this movie. But I guess there's a way 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.320 to frame that comment as like, you're a fan of 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:23.280 this stuff, you love it anyway, so it's not technically homework. 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.439 We the homework word is the homework wood is the 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.560 way they other people pose it. I never see this. 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.960 I love it. 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.439 The TVA is. The TVA is a big part of 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.439 this And there's a there's a point where Deadpool another 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.200 makes a joke where, oh my god, you mean from 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.359 season three, episode five or whatever, Yeah, and it's like 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:49.680 there's a homework jerk right there. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.840 Okay, I will say, did you expect the TVA and 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.119 Loki to be such a huge part of this movie? Like, 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.879 not Loki the character, he's not in it, but Loki 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.560 the TV show. I was surprised by how connected it 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:06.560 was specifically to that series and kind of the TVA 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:07.680 and the world of the TV. 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:12.159 Slightly surprised how big a role they played, But again, 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.199 I feel like it was quite celebratory. I'll tell you 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.080 what I was surprised at. I'll tell you what surprised 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:22.159 me is how how open ended they left the integration 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:23.679 at the end of yes movie. 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.080 I will say that's I think that's what Kevin fid 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:27.520 I need to talk about. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:32.200 And the Marvel shot callers could either decide to integrate 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.760 Deadpool and or never mentioned walk away from it and 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.520 never mention it again. So I was a little I 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.040