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Speaker 1: Warning.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode, after about ten minutes of spoiler free conversation,

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Speaker 2: will contain spoilers for Deadpool and Wolverine. Hello, my name

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Speaker 2: is Jason Concepcion and on Wedsday Night, and welcome back

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Speaker 2: to x Revision of the podcast where we dive deep

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Speaker 2: many of your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture,

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Speaker 2: coming to you from My Heart podcast, where we're bringing

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Speaker 2: you to episodes week every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 1: In today's episode, it's a big air lock chat about

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Speaker 1: Deadpool and Wolverine. As Jason mentioned in the first ten minutes,

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Speaker 1: are gonna be spoiler free. We're gonna sell the movie

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Speaker 1: to you. We're gonna tell you who is this movie for?

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Speaker 1: Was the advertising correct? Do you want to see it?

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Speaker 1: Did we enjoy it? But then it's gonna go full spoilers.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say this is the rare movie

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Speaker 1: that I'm actually really glad I didn't get spoiled for.

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Speaker 1: I usually don't mind, but there was some moments in

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Speaker 1: And after that little ten minute count, we will do

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Speaker 1: another spoiler warning. And if you haven't seen it, I

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Speaker 1: would say go and check.

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Speaker 2: It out, and that's gonna be the spoiler conversation. Is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a free flowing conversation containing many spoilers about

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Speaker 2: a lot of different topics, including who appears in this movie, cameos,

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Speaker 2: where this leaves us, etc.

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Speaker 1: And comic books, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So let's jump into it. Okay, Rosie, we have seen

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Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine. Sell this movie to someone who's like,

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Speaker 2: I really want to see this or I'm slightly on

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Speaker 2: the fence about seeing it. Uh, I don't. I've seen

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Speaker 2: all the trailers and is this movie for me? Sell

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Speaker 2: it to a Rosie?

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Speaker 1: Do you like violence?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 1: Looney Tunes style actions?

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Speaker 1: Do you love the MCU? Are you somebody who goes

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Speaker 1: you enjoy cinematic references? Do you enjoy comic book references?

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Speaker 1: These are the things that you are going to need

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Speaker 1: to enjoy if you want to enjoy this movie. Are

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Speaker 1: you someone who has at times sat around with your

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Speaker 1: friends and riffed on ideas about what you might want

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Speaker 1: to see in a movie like this? This may well

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Speaker 1: bring some of those ideas to life. I would say

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Speaker 1: that you go with your friends, you just be prepared

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Speaker 1: to see some gory action and some a lot of jokes,

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Speaker 1: I would say, Jason, what about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with everything you said.

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Speaker 2: And I would say, do you like are you a

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Speaker 2: fan of the first two Deadpool movies that kind of tone,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna like this movie because all of that is

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Speaker 2: amped up, amped up, I would say, yeah, a good

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Speaker 2: ten to fifteen percent over what you've seen before. More jokes,

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Speaker 2: more meta commentary, more winking, lots of fourth wall, lots

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Speaker 2: actually pretty smart for how dumb it is. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: and it knows what it is and it's giving that

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Speaker 2: to you. Do you love the characters Deadpool and Wolverine?

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Speaker 2: Do you love those two characters? Yes? From their comics appearances,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna like this movie. Do you love surprises?

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Speaker 1: Is that something that brings something to your Do.

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Speaker 2: You go to the cinema to be like, I wanna

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Speaker 1: You will enjoy this movie. There is many of those moments.

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Speaker 2: And I would say further still, I think one of

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, you want to see Bizark.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason for that, because what you would get

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of stuff. You know what.

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Speaker 1: I will say as well, the biggest selling point to

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Speaker 1: and so I'm saying, if you've always dreamt of seeing

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Speaker 2: And one last thing again, if you I think Rosie

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Speaker 2: This movie will reward you. When I say fan service,

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Speaker 1: This does feel like a movie that was specifically Yes,

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Speaker 2: This movie will reward will say, we appreciate. We know

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Speaker 2: we shall now proceed behind the curtain. Yes to the

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Speaker 2: who have not yet seen Deadpool and Wolverine but wanted

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Speaker 2: I don't think we need to recap the plot because plot.

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Speaker 1: This movie is more like you're watching a ton of

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Speaker 1: I know they were trying to like satirize, but like

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Speaker 1: when she's there, she comes out in one of Charles's

439
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Speaker 1: wheelchairs and she stands up and then Deadpool's like ableism

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Speaker 1: that won't go down well with the woke mob and

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Speaker 1: I was like, is this a satire because that's something

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Speaker 1: Wade Wilson would say that one. I was like, who

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Speaker 1: threw that in there? Because I was like, let's be

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Speaker 1: real MCU fans, we love that kind of inclusive shit,

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Speaker 1: like that's why the movies have broadened their scope, you know.

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Speaker 1: So those were the there was a couple of like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get canceled jokes and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: feel like they were left in from like a five

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Speaker 1: year ago version of the script.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those were like I will say that I think

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Speaker 2: that generally speaking, you know, the idea of like we

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Speaker 2: can be inclusive and also not take ourselves seriously is good.

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Speaker 1: It's vibe said do you feel it?

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Speaker 2: Did feel it a little bit like Okay, we get it,

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Speaker 2: we get it. I ever got fully into the enough

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Speaker 2: with the woke jokes, but I did feel as if

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Speaker 2: like there were moments where I was like, oh there's

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Speaker 2: another one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like okay, I was like, that's it

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Speaker 1: just felt to me. I just felt a bit random.

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Speaker 1: Because what I love about the way they've represented Deadpool

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Speaker 1: in these past couple of movies is he is like

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Speaker 1: this bastion for the weirdos and the freaks, and that

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Speaker 1: has often meant that it's all different people who come

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Speaker 1: towards him, and no one's saying, you want a Deadpool

466
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Speaker 1: movie to be as the boomers would say, politically correct, right,

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Speaker 1: like you've got blind Alan, She's talking about cocaine and

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Speaker 1: vibrating and pegging, like you want all that in that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there was a couple of times where I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is weird. I was like, I feel

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Speaker 1: like Deadpoole wouldn't be saying that stuff. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the satirical aspect, because I do feel like

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Speaker 1: this movie will it probably plays as a satire down

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Speaker 1: a straight superhero's still question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, yeah, me a great point.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like Airplane. It's like, yeah, plane of

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Speaker 1: superhero movies.

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Speaker 2: So one of the conversations we had actually we should

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Speaker 2: just bring Yeah, let's bring that.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring the people in, let's bring that. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: the Marvel Council.

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Speaker 2: I will say to just as they're as they're entering

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Speaker 2: the inner sanctum of spoilers, super producer Joel.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying super produced a common I want to know,

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Speaker 1: because I know you you're seeing less of these movies,

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Speaker 1: so I want to know how it played for you.

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Speaker 2: I will say, you know, as they're coming in. One

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Speaker 2: thing that I think this movie does really well is

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Speaker 2: Jedi mind trick the audience into thinking that whatever your

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Speaker 2: particular socio political leaning is, that they agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Do you hate woke shit, You're gonna think this.

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Speaker 1: Movie again exactly that to me.

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Speaker 2: Then you're gonna do you believe in diversity, inclusion and

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Speaker 2: believe the conversations around quote unquote wokeness is actually important.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna think this movie agrees with you. And so

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Speaker 2: I think that in that sense, that's actually an incredible

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Speaker 2: feat for a movie that's all jokes.

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Speaker 1: That's all jokes to me, like they were trying to

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Speaker 1: do every side. And I will say another thing that

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Speaker 1: I was like that. I will obviously be writing extensively

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Speaker 1: about the I do. I will say there is some

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Speaker 1: like I'm guessing I would say this was probably the

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Speaker 1: zeb Wells influence, but I can't say that for sure.

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Speaker 1: But obviously we know he's a comic book writer. I

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Speaker 1: worked on all this.

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Speaker 2: Zeb went over there and was working pretty hard on this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and zeb is like one of the named people

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Speaker 1: behind the you know, who wrote the story, who wrote

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Speaker 1: the screenplay. There was so much like comic book shit

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Speaker 1: in this movie that you almost can't They're gonna some

511
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Speaker 1: people are gonna try and do like every Easter Egg impossible,

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Speaker 1: I would say as somebody who's had to write those

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Speaker 1: pieces all made.

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Speaker 2: It's all the entire plane out of Easter eggs.

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Speaker 1: Like literally, like you can. You are in a situation

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Speaker 1: where like there is a five minute Wolverine montage where

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Speaker 1: they literally directly reference multiple covers.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember Wolverine two fifty one, Wolverine on the Crucifix? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you will be like.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, do you like do you like to see

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Speaker 1: Mark Silvestri Wolverine?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But to life? Do you remember an Uncanny X Men

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Speaker 1: four fifty three by Greg Land where he's with a

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Speaker 1: on his bike, Well, guess what you're gonna get that?

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Speaker 1: And Insane cameo another one that I didn't see coming.

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Speaker 1: So there is a lot of stuff like that. But

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Speaker 1: let's bring in the Marvel councils here baby, Now a

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Speaker 1: word from our sponsors and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, Aaron, you you had a point about legacy that

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Speaker 2: I think is interesting conversation. Let me raise your point,

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Speaker 2: super deser.

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Speaker 8: So I asked whether this movie would have a huge

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Speaker 8: run of success early on and then in two three years,

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Speaker 8: what we still care about it? In the same way,

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Speaker 8: and in particular, I was like, what are we going

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Speaker 8: to think about this in ten years if you watch this, Like,

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Speaker 8: are the furiosa jokes gonna ring? Then obviously some of

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Speaker 8: these comic book cameos that'll still hit and stuff. But

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Speaker 8: like Ryan Reynolds, you know, referencing the proposal, Well, people

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Speaker 8: remember that in twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this stands.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting conversation. I think one jokes

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Speaker 2: have an expiration date and they will age like that

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Speaker 2: the Office thirty rocket. It doesn't matter what it is.

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Speaker 2: If you go back after a period of time, the

548
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Speaker 2: hit rate is just naturally gonna lower because of the

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Speaker 2: way culture moves. So I think on a certain level,

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Speaker 2: you're right in that some of these jokes two three, four,

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Speaker 2: ten years from now just they're not gonna land or

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll land on the wrong side of funny offensive.

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Speaker 2: That a funny offensive marker line that said I was

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Speaker 2: taught you kind of hinted at it Rosie. The airplane

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Speaker 2: movies were a satire of the then in this late

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Speaker 2: seven mid to late seventies, very very very popular disaster

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Speaker 2: movie movement, you know, Towering Inferno, Attack of the Killer Bees,

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Speaker 2: all this fucking shit. And right now today, you're much

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Speaker 2: more likely if you're flipping, if you're somewhere where you're

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00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: still flipping channels and Airplane is on, you're much more

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Speaker 2: likely to be like, maybe I'll sit and watch ten

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Speaker 2: minutes of this airplane movie than you would the Towering Inferno.

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Speaker 2: So I do think that there's a world in which

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Speaker 2: Deadpool does have legs years later, but I would imagine

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Speaker 2: that it's gonna be potentially a much different audience than

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Speaker 2: likes it right now.

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Speaker 1: That's actually what I think. When Aaron brought this up,

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Speaker 1: it kind of spoke to one of my things, which

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Speaker 1: I think we could see kind of a splitting of

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Speaker 1: the audience where I think that people who are really

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Speaker 1: into the MCU and that's their main fandom, I think

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Speaker 1: they'll probably love this movie. I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: has a I don't know if it has huge legs right,

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Speaker 1: but I do feel like in ten years, see things

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Speaker 1: are gonna hate it, yeah, and I exactly, And I

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Speaker 1: do feel like in ten years there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: whole crew of super cool kids who discover this movie,

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Speaker 1: who love comics, who are gonna think it's like the

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Speaker 1: ultimate cult movie. If in ten years we're not still

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Speaker 1: in an MCU high point and this isn't still like

581
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Speaker 1: the biggest blockbuster behemoth. But I do think, I actually

582
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Speaker 1: think there's a version where age is well because of

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Speaker 1: the amount of love for comic books that are in there.

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Speaker 1: But I also feel like it has a very specific

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Speaker 1: audience right now on release, and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that translates to, though I will say, think about the

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Speaker 1: Venom movies, right those movies make so much money and

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Speaker 1: are of a questionable quality, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: But that's because there's there's a generation of people like

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Speaker 1: us who grew up on Venom, right, Venom, this Venom

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Speaker 1: basketball shirts, Venom on on every like lunchbox, Venom on

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Speaker 1: the TV, and the spider Man cartoon. Wolverine does have

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Speaker 1: that impact. So I do think that in itself is

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Speaker 1: gonna be enough to keep the movie going for a wild.

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Speaker 2: Age late middle aged men like fucking fighting for the

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Speaker 2: Wolverine popcorn.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were getting out the Wolverine pop.

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Speaker 2: And like fucking crying in the movie. You know, Yeah

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Speaker 2: that's true, Joelle, you didn't you did not like this movie.

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Speaker 2: So your thoughts? What are some of your notes?

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Speaker 9: I would like to caveat that. I laughed my ass

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Speaker 9: full Disclaire. I was high as hell. I was like,

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Speaker 9: I was like, I'm gonna go and see that. I

604
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Speaker 9: was like, I'm gonna spoke a fat before I get.

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Speaker 5: Into this theater. It's gonna be great. I cackled.

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Speaker 9: I was so At one point my phone was like

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Speaker 9: my I have a watch off, like it's too.

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Speaker 5: Loud, and I was like, that's me laughing. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 5: Like I really really.

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Speaker 9: Enjoyed watching the movie, had a good time. But to me,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't work as a fight.

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Speaker 1: It's a full movie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah I don't.

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Speaker 9: I I don't get a full and to me, okay,

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Speaker 9: we're just starting the greatest.

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Speaker 5: Don't feel that this movie had No, that's my least

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Speaker 5: favorite part. Was so fucking stupid. Yeah, Like I really

618
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Speaker 5: hated that.

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Speaker 9: I was like this, I hate the song choice of

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Speaker 9: Like is this a nineties graduation?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like this was a.

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Speaker 9: Solid Wolverine and Deadpool film, right Like I thought this

624
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Speaker 9: was a great or a pretty solid a dead Pool

625
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Speaker 9: film that featured Wolverine. I needed him to have a

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Speaker 9: fuller arc, yes, And the film even kind of calls

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Speaker 9: it out at one point. They're like, oh, Deadpool's talking

628
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Speaker 9: so too much, Like isn't it nice when he's quiet

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Speaker 9: so we can focus on you, Wolverine. And they give

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Speaker 9: Wolverine his space, but it doesn't quite feel like he's

631
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Speaker 9: got the same emotional stakes. And maybe that's because he

632
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Speaker 9: already lost everything. Maybe it's because he can't die and

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Speaker 9: they're constantly trying to kill each other. I just think

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Speaker 9: like the balance of this film is off. I was

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Speaker 9: telling you guys earlier, like it feels like a Deadpool

636
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Speaker 9: mini series, which can kind of be a great thing.

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Speaker 9: It's like every fifteen minutes we're jumping into a new comic.

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Speaker 9: Here are all of these great cameos.

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Speaker 5: You do get the Hulk.

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Speaker 9: That's amazing, Like, yeah, you get all these things you

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Speaker 9: really really want, and yet you don't get the satisfaction

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Speaker 9: of like, oh my god, this saved the world. There

643
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Speaker 9: should be a relief when hero saved the world and

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Speaker 9: I just felt that it was I never felt anyone

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Speaker 9: any real danger, and therefore I couldn't get emotionally like

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Speaker 9: into it.

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Speaker 1: It is hard to have steaks, I will say that

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Speaker 1: in a movie where two people are basically immortal. And

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Speaker 1: I did feel like then this introduction of the idea

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Speaker 1: of the time stripper and like suddenly the TVA just

651
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Speaker 1: he's bored and he just wants to get rid of

652
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Speaker 1: your universe. I was like, I need it to have

653
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Speaker 1: higher stakes than that. Also, I will say, and this

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Speaker 1: is gonna sound meaner than it means too, because it's

655
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: not an insult in my mind. But I did at

656
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: times feel like this would have been like a really

657
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: good TV special, Like that was how it would have

658
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: been VP TV special. Because there's so many jokes. I

659
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: wanted to like pause stuff and explore it and like

660
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: see but I didn't necessarily as a whole piece. I

661
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: did come out of it thinking like if my mom,

662
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: for example, someone who loved Logan, right, that's like one

663
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: of her favorite movies, she couldn't go into this movie

664
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: and enjoy it, and not because it's offensive, but just

665
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: because she had a brain hemorrhage like fifteen years ago,

666
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: and would be like, what the fuck is going on?

667
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: Like it's so speedy.

668
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: I think, Joelle, you put your finger on something important,

669
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: which is if you want do you want story? You're

670
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: not You're maybe not gonna love this movie because it's

671
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: definitely it's quite clear from jump that like this is

672
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: about getting the jokes off in the Easter Eggs, this

673
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: is not about They do make gestures towards like emotional arcs,

674
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: like but I would call them gestures bear gestures towards

675
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: emotional life. There's no they're not trying to hit you

676
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: with an emotional story that you're gonna be thinking about.

677
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: That's gonna work in the way traditional movies and stories do.

678
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: And that's which I think.

679
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, I think it's tough coming in the.

680
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 9: Last trailer to be like an homage to to Logan

681
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 9: all the things he did for the superhero genre in general.

682
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 9: Like I thought this was going to be based off

683
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 9: the last trailer. I was like, Oh, they're going to

684
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 9: do like a really great sendoff to the Fox universe

685
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 9: and it's going to be emotional and like almost like

686
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 9: a film thank you for setting this up, which I

687
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 9: thought it beautiful thinking about Kevin Figy's history with Fox

688
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 9: and all this to your point earlier, Rosie, like you

689
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 9: could have really worked in like Kevin Figgey's entire trajectory

690
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 9: through Fox up into Marvel, Like there's a lot of

691
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 9: story there and it just sort of fell flat and

692
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 9: then final thing and then we can kick it to Carmen.

693
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: But like the Deadpool Army was such a disappointment to me.

694
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, what are you actually when you

695
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: lost I think that was when it lost you, right,

696
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: because we chatted after the movie.

697
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I kicked it. I checked out and.

698
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: You were like you were kind of you were like vibing,

699
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: you were laughing, and then that was the moment where

700
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: I remember you said to me, like you just it

701
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: wasn't That was where it lost you. Okay, Carmen, So

702
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: you are not someone who has necessarily spent your time

703
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: doing this homework, but you you can you can enjoy

704
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: these movies like you've seen them. What was what was

705
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: your take when you're walking into the screen and in Atlanta, Like,

706
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: how did it feel to watch this movie and just

707
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of experience it like that?

708
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

709
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 10: I mean I definitely went into the movie with just like,

710
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 10: you know what, this is just gonna be a fun movie.

711
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: And I have seen like.

712
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 10: All of the all of the previous MCU movies, but

713
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 10: I've only ever seen them in the theater. I never

714
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 10: went back and like revisited them. It was like just

715
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 10: kind of a one time event for me. I've also

716
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 10: seen Loki season one in season two. Loved those, so

717
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 10: I loved like the kind of tie ins to the TVA.

718
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 10: But for me, I was mostly just kind of living

719
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 10: for all of the needle drops.

720
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: I know that that's like, no, it's true, they did

721
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: go they went crazy with the needle drop. They did

722
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: because like that's your favorite one.

723
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 10: Oh well, I almost cried with the like a prayer.

724
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 10: I mean they, I will say, the Deadpool movies, even

725
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 10: though it's not my not my thing, they have found

726
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 10: a way to capture my attention in the sense that

727
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 10: all the trailers feature like a prayer, which I'm a

728
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 10: huge Madonna fan, and the last Deadpool movie features an

729
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 10: original song from Celine Dion and I'm a huge Celine

730
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 10: Dion fan, so they have a way of like capturing

731
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 10: my attention. So I definitely was living for I almost

732
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 10: like cried when the like a prayer. But I hated

733
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 10: the Deadpool Army thing because at at a few points

734
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 10: I was looking out at, you know, all the people

735
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 10: and it definitely felt like, uh, you know some bad

736
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 10: like costplays, you know, like some of them felt like

737
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 10: bad costplays and not quite and.

738
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I do think that was intentional, But did they wuck?

739
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: Did it put something across that we needed? Like probably not?

740
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, And then again like the same critics I have,

741
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 10: like the same criticism stuff, like it didn't really feel

742
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 10: like there were mistakes. I was very unclear of like

743
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 10: what Cassandra nova, what her motives were I think she did.

744
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 10: I just kind of felt like she just wanted to

745
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 10: stick her fingers and everything and just like fast, Yeah,

746
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 10: I wasn't really sure.

747
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was again like there's your there's

748
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: your gestures towards emotion, where it was like they tried

749
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: to make Cassandra's thing. Uh, you know, wouldn't it be

750
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: great if your brother acknowledged and loved you, like, is

751
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: then a thing that you actually want? But that like

752
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: didn't matter. Nobody cared. Nobody cares about that shit, nobody

753
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: that didn't do anything for.

754
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: Any No, didn't. It didn't capture me like what we Yeah,

755
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: what were your feelings?

756
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 7: I want to caveat my feelings with the fact that

757
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 7: I kind of sit somewhere between Carmen and Joel with

758
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 7: my attachment to the X Men and my knowledge of

759
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 7: the X Men. I'm a big superhero movie person. I'm

760
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 7: definitely you know, tuned in with geek culture and pop

761
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: culture and so not. Maybe not quite as much as

762
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 7: the Burbank people, but I got most of the references.

763
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 7: I understood almost all of the jokes. Everything landed. I

764
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 7: found it extremely funny. The Blade appearance. I actually gasped

765
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 7: out out loud, and I swear the guy next to

766
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 7: me like tried to hold my arm because it was like, Wow,

767
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 7: that was Yeah, that was a wow moment. I genuinely

768
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 7: was like giggling during the entire Chris Seven's bit with America.

769
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: I really liked a.

770
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 7: Lot of the human and I, you know, again, I

771
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 7: agree with a lot of what's been said. The stakes

772
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 7: didn't feel present, the emotional arcs, like there was this

773
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 7: like trying to toy with Logan dealing with this trauma

774
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 7: and having some sort of arc where he comes to

775
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 7: accept who he is and what's made him who he

776
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 7: is and what it means to be a hero, and

777
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 7: none of that quite landed. Like there was that sort

778
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 7: of awkward campfire conversation with X twenty thirty I for

779
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 7: like two minutes.

780
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

781
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: And you Yeah.

782
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 7: For me, it just didn't go deep enough for me,

783
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 7: Like she said some she said some of the right things,

784
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 7: but then we learned that Logan just kind of like

785
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 7: had do not Disturb on his phone and missed a phone,

786
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 7: a really important phone call, and like that's the thing

787
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 7: that's traumatizing him. And apparently there's some extra comic book

788
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 7: lore there that I'm not aware of. All I know

789
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 7: is what they said in the movie.

790
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 8: And so for me, the thing that made it hit

791
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 8: so hard is Daphne saying I got to live my

792
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 8: life because of you. A lot of kids did. And

793
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 8: that was like the most meta, like, hey, this is

794
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 8: Daphne standing in for the audience, like this is all

795
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 8: the kids who grew up with X Men movies and

796
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 8: the nineties cartoon and the video game. I like that

797
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 8: read so I loved that. I thought that was the

798
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 8: most emotional point for sure.

799
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: I love like, I really did for her being in

800
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: the movie was a real high point for me. And

801
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: I loved when she put on the sunglasses from Logan

802
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: and that was like.

803
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: That was that was really you know what I loved

804
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: and I thought was fucking actually kind of awesome. It was,

805
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the best gambit on screen. Oh yes,

806
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: that was like that was his powers. He was the

807
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: card ship was was well done and really cool, like

808
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: when he fans them and like goes from hand to

809
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: hand it you I was just like, ship, like, get

810
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: if you do game it like this on screen when

811
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 2: you really like it'll be cool, it will work.

812
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Channing a funny the accent was so funny, too funny.

813
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: Jokes about it. Yeah, right, and then when he when

814
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: like when he springs into action, it was truly good,

815
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: like it was actually awesome. And I was so surprised,

816
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: like they.

817
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 4: They gave you.

818
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: The best version of Gibbet, Like his powers were awesome.

819
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: It's costume. His costume looked great. I was so surprised.

820
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as well. I do think. I will

821
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: say I do think that that sequence where they're in uh,

822
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Cassandra Nova's kind of you know, layer and you've got

823
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garnet Electra Wesley Snipes, Blade, Channing Tatum Gambit, daph Nickan.

824
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: I actually did think that they did a good job.

825
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: The action there was really solid. It was fun to

826
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: see their powers. I will say though, one thing that

827
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: did this to me was like one of the rare

828
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: moments where I think they seemed kind of out of touch.

829
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: Is like equating like the Channing Tatum gambit that never happened,

830
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: so people had forgotten about it, Elektra. People have forgotten

831
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: about it as much as I show them to bring

832
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: Me to Life. Yeah, not not the gays. We haven't

833
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: forgotten about it.

834
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Bring me to life, to.

835
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: Bring me to life. Evanescence sequence lived strong with us yet.

836
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: But say, I think equating that level of cultural like

837
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: impact with Blade, I felt like that was a miss.

838
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Like when they kept when they kept saying okay, when

839
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: they when they kept saying like, oh, you know, people

840
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: have forgotten about them, I was like, no, they haven't.

841
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like, so impactful that you're still struggling

842
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: to make another Blade movie.

843
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: That's a great point. The first I mean, I love

844
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: the Blade trilogy.

845
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: That's incredible.

846
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: The first two in particular are.

847
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: Great, great, Yeah, unbelievable standard still wone.

848
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Action, the performances, direction, the whole fucking thing is great.

849
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: Shouts the David. Shout the David as Gloria who wrote

850
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: the Blade movie.

851
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also m del Toro, like just casually like directing

852
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: the second Play movie. That to me, that was one

853
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: of those moments where I was like, I feel like

854
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: everything else you're doing here. The seeing Patch Wolverine is

855
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: Patch seeing Wolverine on the crucifix like Age of Apocalypse Wolverine.

856
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: You are speaking to the fandom. But in that moment

857
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: where they were like, you know, these are the heroes

858
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: that people have forgotten, I was like, guys, you that's

859
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: not true. Really really great comes to Wesley Snipes.

860
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: There's a really great joke as they're driving towards the

861
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: gates of uh pim Falls a Layer, they're all saying, oh,

862
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: there's like this version of that one and this version

863
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: of that one, and then Wesley Snipes as Blade goes

864
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: they'll never be another Blaze.

865
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: There's only one Blade I have. Okay, so I did

866
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what one?

867
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: I was like, what are you telling?

868
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: There?

869
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Was I will also say like the one thing I

870
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: was very impressed about when we talk about the jokes

871
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: and and whether the jokes were last They actually obviously

872
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: were writing jokes for this very close to when the

873
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: movie came out. Because I did think that joke. I

874
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: felt that joke felt really timely and it really hit,

875
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: and I also felt like, I love. One of the

876
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: moments that definitely gave me like a great bit of

877
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: cathartic joy was the dead Evil joke when they're like

878
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: dead Evil died and then she's like, I'm calling it.

879
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: I love that. I was like, I was like, this

880
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: woman has had to live through one the movie being

881
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: maligned to seeing her husband like marry Jennifhi Lopez and

882
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: make like a documentary about it. I'm like, I really

883
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: am very happy that she got that like shady moment

884
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: in that I thought that was.

885
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Like very relationships asked the relations the relationships between the

886
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: general Benjamin. I always had his.

887
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: Struggles, He's had his struggles, you know, his struggle. But

888
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: I thought that was very funny joke. I'm not gonna

889
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: let's okay, so let's talk about Yeah, you go for it.

890
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say the one. I will say

891
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: the one emotional, but I'm I'm a sucker for particular

892
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: for things exactly like this. You mentioned the song choice

893
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: of the montage.

894
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that actually got me. I'm sorry,

895
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm as I got the Time.

896
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: Of Your Life by Green Day, which is the classic,

897
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: mind you know, one of the top five montage songs

898
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: of all time up there with the End of the

899
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: End of the Road by it. So they do that

900
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: montage where it's everybody's you know, it's behind the scenes

901
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: footage and screen test footage for Hugh, Ryan and everybody

902
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: else who was cameoed in the movie.

903
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: And they even had a bad Affleck bad evil moment.

904
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: They had a Ben Affleck Daredevil moment. It was crazy

905
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: seeing huge that young and Ryan Reynolds that we're talking about,

906
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: Brian talking about like yeah, during X Men origins, Wolverine

907
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: talking about like how much he wants to play this character,

908
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: and I'll fucking admit it, it got me, to be.

909
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 9: Honest, it really got me.

910
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: I didn't get me.

911
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about, like, fuck, man, I've seen

912
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: all of these movies. I remember the person I was

913
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: when I was so stoked to see the original X

914
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: Men movie, Like I fucking saw Electron tears. Yeah, I

915
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: saw Blade in the movie theater. I it hit it

916
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: really that one hit.

917
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: I think, so, I agree, I was That's actually what

918
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, was like, how did the end

919
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: line look? I think the fact that they used the

920
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: Greeney song is in itself a meta joke because we

921
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: all know that's like you're somebody makes the thing. But

922
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: seeing all those clips, ironically, Joelle, that to me was

923
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: the moment where they encapsulated that feeling that I wanted

924
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: the movie to have, where it was like, look at

925
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: all the people who on this, look at how we

926
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: look at all this work that's come into it. But

927
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that should have only been like five

928
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: minutes of the film. I feel like there was a

929
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: space where That's why it didn't hit for me. I

930
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: think there was a space where that could have been built. Also,

931
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: speaking of the uh like things that have come before,

932
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: very weird to me that they didn't have a Blade

933
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds reference he was in this.

934
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 8: They oh they did, Yeah, there was like there It

935
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 8: was a lot of jokes in that moment, and especially

936
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 8: with Channing Tatum doing the accent, this is like, that's true,

937
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 8: we're laughing too much to hear all the jokes at

938
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 8: that happened, but they do have a reference with Ryan

939
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 8: Reynolds says something like or I think Ryan Reynolds says

940
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 8: something like, it's good to see you again.

941
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: And Blade is like, talk about it.

942
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 5: He says, you never did. It's a line directly from

943
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 5: the movie.

944
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so what is it?

945
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: Ye?

946
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a line. He's like, I don't like you.

947
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 5: He's like, you never.

948
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I know what else as well? I will

949
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: say I do think that that sums up something that's

950
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a much longer range measure of the success.

951
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: This movie is going to have a high rewatchability factor

952
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: simply just so you can get all the jokes and

953
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: all the references.

954
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, those YouTubers that do like

955
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 7: one hundred easter eggs you missed, Like those four folks

956
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 7: have their work.

957
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: Getting ready right now.

958
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: I was so relieved that was not part of my

959
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: job this time. That used to be me and I,

960
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: Me and Nick would be like Charlie from It's Always

961
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Sunny like with our boards, like making all the lists.

962
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: But I was like, I can just vibe through this one.

963
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: And I still caught a lot of stuff, because that's

964
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: how my brain is wired. But yeah, I think the

965
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: rewatch ability of like even those like you said, Jason,

966
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: it's a machine gun is such an appropriate It's a

967
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: constant barrage of jokes.

968
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: You brought raised something really important, Rosie, which is the

969
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: many gay jokes.

970
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of gay joke.

971
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Deadpool is canonically gay. Yeah, he's he's joking. Yeah, he's

972
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: a queer gentleman, and he's he's joking from a from

973
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: a place of experience that said, I thought you you

974
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: raised something important.

975
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: I think that the question is, like, does the movie

976
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: use the fact that Deadpool is gay, is like queer

977
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: to make a lot of gay jokes, but he never

978
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: actually like gets to be queer like you doesn't kiss

979
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: a man even like you know, I remember the meme

980
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: got shared before the movie came out, and it's that

981
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: it's like getting queer baited by the MCU is like

982
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: getting beaten at chess by a dog. And it's like,

983
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: I do feel like this movie it did that same

984
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: thing where if you look at all the marketing, there's

985
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: all these like it's Deadpool's like hand on Wolverine's leg

986
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: and they're in the heart shape together and they're and

987
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, there are jokes, even the popcorn bucket right

988
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: very much. It plays very much into this idea of

989
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: like there might be something between them, but they do

990
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: not get into that. They they never there is never

991
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: a hint of that. It's not like Deadpool Spider Man

992
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: in the comics, where there very much is a sexual tension.

993
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: Anything here is like, you know, Deadpool thinks that Wolverine

994
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: is hot, but it's not. I don't know that they

995
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: ever commit to it in a way that's other than

996
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: just a joke.

997
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that you're right, and I think that

998
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 2: it's clearly also quite strategic. You know, I talked about

999
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: obviously how this is a movie that feels like no

1000
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: matter what you come into it with with your political

1001
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: cultural biases, it will feel as if this movie agrees

1002
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: with you. And I think that this is one of

1003
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: those cases trying to have it both ways, and I think,

1004
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: to a certain extent successfully do have it both ways.

1005
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: But I think you're right to note that this is

1006
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: it's all jokes. No, there's no substantive Just let him

1007
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: kiss a guy.

1008
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Yes, there's so many cameos here. Just let him kiss

1009
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: one guy.

1010
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: Another is it?

1011
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, let him kiss another Deadpool dude. Even Venom did

1012
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: that weird thing where it was like he's making out

1013
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: with Lady Venom and it's like there's all these I mean,

1014
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: Deadpool is a I mean, Venom is a far more

1015
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: queerer franchise than Deadpool in what we actually get because

1016
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: the two of them are in love, right, Like it's

1017
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: very clear. It's like quite textual. Tom Hardy knows it.

1018
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think in this movie they could

1019
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: have committed to it. And actually it's an R rated movie,

1020
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: Like what is the problem with showing a queer person

1021
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: if he is? If Deadpool's queer, what's the problem with

1022
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: showing him kiss another guy? Or or I will also

1023
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: say I also say the American market. I do truly

1024
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: believe that is also part of it, Like because also

1025
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: you can it's that classic thing. You can show Deadpool

1026
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: and Wolverine multiple times, like stabbing each other in the

1027
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: most brutal way possible. They're like stabbing each other in

1028
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: the guts, that pulling things out of each other. People's

1029
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: skins are getting ripped off. But you can't just show

1030
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: two men kissing. Yeah, I say that's a I say

1031
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: that's an issue.

1032
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: I think that it's less it's less the American market

1033
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: than it's the international market, which is increasingly important with

1034
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: the decoupling. I don't want to fucking talk like this,

1035
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: but like China like is playing less of a role

1036
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: in box office down that used to be the honeypot.

1037
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: Like you know, you put put a put an actor

1038
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 2: from China in the movie and then release it there

1039
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: and you're gonna watch you know, the bucks roll in.

1040
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: That doesn't exist anymore. It's a lot of parts of

1041
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: the world. There's a lot of parts of the world

1042
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: where stuff that works culturally here does not work. And

1043
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: I think this is the gay jokes is clearly a

1044
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: way where they can be like, hey, you care about

1045
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: diversity inclusion here in the United States, in you name

1046
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: the country, they don't feel that way way, but you know,

1047
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: joking about gainness word joking at Yeah. So I think

1048
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: that that's a part of I think that's part of

1049
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: the way that they can make sure that this movie

1050
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: can work in different markets.

1051
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: I think you've tapped into something very interesting on this

1052
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: almost like both sides of the movie, and I will

1053
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: be interested to see if that makes it hugely popular

1054
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: or if as sometimes when you try to go to both,

1055
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily hit perfectly with either. I'm going to

1056
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: be very interested to see which way it goes. Now

1057
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors and we'll be right back.

1058
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: Rather than making a statement, let me ask you, guys, like,

1059
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: how does it feel about like as as you? Does

1060
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: it feel like that massive reset that Kevin Faigie and

1061
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: everyone promised, because that was what I didn't get a

1062
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: feeling of when.

1063
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 9: It has that MCU been saved.

1064
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 5: Right, So.

1065
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 9: No, it hasn't been reset because we did not come

1066
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 9: back to our sacred timeline really bother like I we

1067
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 9: we we got Deadpool back to his apartment and with

1068
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 9: his people.

1069
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: That was lovely.

1070
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 9: Uh if y'all don't let him have his love in

1071
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 9: the next I just don't even please let that man

1072
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 9: have his life.

1073
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: I just need it.

1074
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 9: But I just but I think that because we don't

1075
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 9: go back to the sacred timeline and don't invest in

1076
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 9: and all we get we got a little bit of

1077
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 9: moments but are happy, it just doesn't feel connected. It

1078
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 9: still feels like if we never see Deadpool again, nothing

1079
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 9: will have changed in the MCU and it'll be fine,

1080
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 9: and because of that, it doesn't feel like a reset

1081
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 9: or an establishing. I felt more when the Marvels was like,

1082
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 9: here's beasts, and I was like, oh my god, like

1083
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 9: this is fundamentally changing what we're doing here, but didn't

1084
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 9: say the MCU, which is slightly different question.

1085
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: I save it's too strong a.

1086
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 9: Word, but I think this is gonna boots belief in

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Speaker 9: the MCU that part.

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Speaker 5: I really think that, especially for your.

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Speaker 9: Average movie go for someone who's seen a ton of MCU,

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Speaker 9: but maybe not every movie. Somebody who just is like, ooh,

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Speaker 9: a new sci fi actions film, Gotta go see that.

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Speaker 9: Those kind of people are gonna be very, very satisfied

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Speaker 9: with this film.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 9: I think for some of the diehard comic book fans,

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Speaker 9: it's gonna leave a lot of questions. But I also

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Speaker 9: don't think we're going and we don't have anywhere else

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Speaker 9: to go. There's no other safe space for us to

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Speaker 9: be like, this is where I can love my comic

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Speaker 9: books on film, So.

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Speaker 5: We're here until that happens. Mm hmm, what do you think?

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Speaker 8: Ann So my real quick thing, FIGI was saying something

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Speaker 8: I think in the run up to this film of

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Speaker 8: if Infinity War was a nine and Endgame was a ten,

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Speaker 8: for the changes to the Marvel universe, this is an eight.

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Speaker 8: I think that's categorically not true. It's like a three.

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Speaker 8: This is far closer to Far from Home than it

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Speaker 8: is to Infinity War.

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Speaker 2: And that's totally.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Like it was a very fun movie to watch

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Speaker 8: and like it was a ton of okay.

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Speaker 1: Actually if i'm movie, yeah.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think it saves anything. I don't think

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Speaker 8: it truly did anything to bring mutants into the universe

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Speaker 8: any Differently, I thought it was a great end to

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Speaker 8: the Fox universe. So that's that's where my thoughts lie

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Speaker 8: on the end of things.

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Speaker 2: Aboo.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Aaron and I walked out of the theater and

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Speaker 7: I was asking him questions like did I miss some

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Speaker 7: lore thing? Were they set up the future of mutants

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Speaker 7: and the MCU? Like you know more about X Men

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Speaker 7: than I do. Was there some easter egg that I

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Speaker 7: missed or went over my head? And the answer seemingly

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Speaker 7: is no, there wasn't, and there there hasn't been any

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Speaker 7: ground laid for the mutant's introduction into the MCU, which

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Speaker 7: I think is a bit of fan expectation.

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Speaker 4: Going into it.

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Speaker 7: I think longtime fans have been like, Oh, here it comes, here,

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Speaker 7: it's come. It's the next one, it's the next one.

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Speaker 7: This one's gonna set it up. And I think some

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Speaker 7: of that is also was hinted at or heavily implied

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Speaker 7: by the folks behind the movie too. So I don't

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Speaker 7: think it's the reset that the mc as a cinematic

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Speaker 7: universe needed. But I do think this movie is gonna

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Speaker 7: make a fuck ton of money, and that is going

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Speaker 7: to be the financial pocketbook reset that the MCU baby

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Speaker 7: is looking for.

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Speaker 10: Car Oh, I actually don't really have a lot of

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Speaker 10: thoughts on this that haven't already been said. I'm not

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Speaker 10: a huge I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a funny movie.

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Speaker 10: Do I think would you go see another one? I

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Speaker 10: would definitely go see another Deadpool movie, and I would.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm I love superhero movies in general. I

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Speaker 10: think they're fun. I would go see them. But I'm

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Speaker 10: probably I'm not so much the person that's gonna be like, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I need to rewatch that at home.

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Speaker 2: You know, it saves the MCU. I think that they

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Speaker 2: need the hit. They need the hit as a short

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Speaker 2: term news cycle, short to medium term news cycle like

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Speaker 2: get off my back, Matt Bellanie on the town about

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Speaker 2: about how like the MCU is flagging. I think this

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Speaker 2: will get people off of their back as a hit.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, Rosie and the conversation we had

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Speaker 2: about like how surprised we were at like the lack

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Speaker 2: of integration content wise and thematically, and Boo noted like

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Speaker 2: this is not some big culture shift towards mutants. They

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Speaker 2: can take or leave anything from this movie that they want.

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Speaker 2: It does not affect Cannon quote unquote. They can be

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Speaker 2: like that mattered or that didn't matter to a la carte,

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Speaker 2: whatever they decide. So it'll be interesting to see going.

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Speaker 8: Forward real quick before we end two minutes, what do

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Speaker 8: we think of the wolverine mask in real life? Seeing

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Speaker 8: it on screen?

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Speaker 2: It was cool. It felt like it was falling down

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Speaker 2: on his face. There was anybody else feeling found.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the white for I love

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Speaker 1: the visual for the wings, but I'm not a white

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Speaker 1: eyes on a wolverine type of guy. I need to

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Speaker 1: see his eyes.

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Speaker 2: I liked it. I did feel like it was falling down.

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Speaker 10: In that penultimate moment where they're like holding hands when

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Speaker 10: I wish that.

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Speaker 1: The mouse and the mask is still on.

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Speaker 9: Yeah that was yeah, yeah, yeah, no shirt and this

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Speaker 9: guy was in for two guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any baby.

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Speaker 9: I was like, I like the look.

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Speaker 5: I love.

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Speaker 9: The climax of this movie was Hugh Jackman taking a

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Speaker 9: shirt off. I said, good for you, sir, good for you.

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Speaker 5: You are old as hell.

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Speaker 9: Not really, but he's older, and he's like, listen, the

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Speaker 9: body is still bodying the body.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciated it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, the body continues the body. Baby, it's a Marvel

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Speaker 1: it's the Marvel method. It's got a new meaning nowadays

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Speaker 1: you can get would you like the mask?

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Speaker 7: I have no emotional attachment to the mask. I thought,

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Speaker 7: I thought it was cute.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna be like you, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: listen to that over and over again, just like I

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Speaker 1: have no emotional attachment to.

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Speaker 2: The Graybeards who were fighting over the wolverine cornhead in

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Speaker 2: the fucking lobby were like.

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Speaker 3: Like there was a gut.

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Speaker 1: Guttle. It was.

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Speaker 2: When he the vestment that erin oboo Joel.

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Speaker 1: Car, thank you much, the Marvel Council, and.

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Speaker 2: That has been our our reaction to Dead pul Wolverine,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Yes see you next time, See you, next time.

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Speaker 4: Bye bye.

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