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Speaker 1: season one, episode seventeen, The Fugitive. It originally aired February,

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Speaker 1: and the synopsis is that Sean and Corey find that

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Speaker 1: going to hide under the bed. Sean says he thinks

429
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: he's going to act weird keeping it a secret, but

430
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: Corey says, no, I won't act weird, and that's where

431
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: we get the amazing optical. I like, how how you doing? Too?

432
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: For under the bed? I thought that was a funny joke, Yeah,

433
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: opening up there? Oh hey, how are you doing? Yeah,

434
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: saying that it was. But Indie watched the episode was like,

435
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: what's down there? Who's down there? Who are you saying?

436
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: I was like, it's just a joke. Who would you say? Hi?

437
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: He wanted to see under the bed? He was like,

438
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: what was there already down there? Is? Lily didn't remind me.

439
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: Did we ever do an episode where there was something

440
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: like a ferret or something that crawled out from under

441
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: the bed? Uh? We did, pig right, we have the

442
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: was there a pig a little they were in the

443
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: closet that was in the school. But then I ended

444
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: up in my room at one point having a little quar.

445
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just I just realized it was

446
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: a Girl Meets World episode. Never mind moving on. It

447
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: was a Girl Meates World episode where Maya had a

448
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: ferret in her room. All right, I was an episode

449
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: of Cheers. My my bad, sorry alone, That's what it was. Okay,

450
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: So diner the optical flip of Bennett dinner, I know,

451
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: and he's putting all the meat loaf on his plate,

452
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: and then I love that he goes to run his

453
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: hands in his hair. He does this like yeah, he

454
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: goes like this on his on his curly hair doesn't

455
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: move anywhere, but he just runs it across his hair

456
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: behind his ear, like like he's putting his hair, his

457
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: hair behind his ear, which is amazing. Um Alan says

458
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: that Corey has grounded for two weeks, and Corey says,

459
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: why what did I do? When he says, we we

460
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: don't know, but the way you're acting, it seems like

461
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: it must be at least two weeks. And then there's

462
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: a loud noise from upstairs, and Corey says it's all

463
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: of the homework he has to do that fell off

464
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: of his desk, and then he runs off with some leftovers,

465
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: grabbing the piece of bread out of Alan's hand, and

466
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: we're back in Corey's bedroom. Corey brings Sewn a giant

467
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: plate of food and we have the amazing reveal of

468
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: Sean in Corey's better too tight, too small. Uh, yes,

469
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: this is my outfit for the whole episode. Uh. And

470
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: then Eric storms in and says he knows Corey is

471
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 1: up to something. Corey is hiding a puppy. Puppy. They

472
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: there clearly was some kind of meeting about me before

473
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: this episode, because they have changed my look entirely. Did

474
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: you notice this? I am No, it's I'm now in

475
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: big flannels. Yeah. They keep it open all the way

476
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: like it's almost covering my hands. It's very And then

477
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: for a couple episodes, I remember this was so somebody

478
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: somewhere went, now, this belt thing whatever you got him

479
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: tucked in, that's not right. Put him in giant flannels, um,

480
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: which kind of I guess became a thing there so

481
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: that I could tell right when I walked in. It's

482
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: like oh, I'm they have me totally different now Yeah,

483
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: new style for you. Yeah, new style out of nowhere.

484
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: It was very strange. But I also felt, for the

485
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: first time in a while, I walked on and I

486
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: was more comfortable. I was gonna say exactly that you

487
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: really had command in this set. Walked in you you

488
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: you had you had control of your body. You you

489
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: you you know manipulated the set really well. The way

490
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: you sat down, the way you had all the dialogue

491
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: about you guys are going to take over my chores.

492
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: You felt like Ah has taken over as Eric I feel.

493
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: I I agree, I felt I even wrote that down.

494
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm definitely getting more comfortable. So

495
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: that was I was wondering when the moment was going

496
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: to be where I was going to see a scene

497
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: and go oh there and this might be it where

498
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is and Eric is nothing

499
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: in this episode. But for me as a personal note,

500
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: I was able to say, oh, they're okay. Yeah, I

501
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: feel like I'm more comfortable there. Yeah that was cool.

502
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: It was great. So Corey says that Eric is right,

503
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: but he let the puppy go outside the second story window.

504
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: Amy and Morgan come in so that Amy can bathe

505
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: Morgan and Corey's bathroom, and we had just seen that

506
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: in the yeah, lay out of the house. Now, okay, okay,

507
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: So here she says, we couldn't get into the bathroom

508
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: because of her bathroom was locked. Lily's Lily the door

509
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: from So what I figure is the bull share room

510
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: and Lily has one, and they can each get to

511
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: the same shared bathroom. And you went into the bathroom

512
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: and locked the doors, so that bathroom door, So Lily's

513
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: room is on the other side of the bathroom. Basically, yes,

514
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: were imagining. And did we ever do we ever see

515
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Alan in Amy's room? Not ever in the history of

516
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: the show do we ever see do we ever see

517
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: Morgan's room? Like this is the only upstairs we ever

518
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: get to see at the house? Ye? This actually I

519
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: actually didn't real I didn't read it as though they

520
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: share a bathroom. I thought it was that she has

521
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: her own bathroom but the door was locked. Remember as

522
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: a kid, someone would like lock the door from the

523
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: inside and then close the door, and you had to

524
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: she says something the effective we couldn't get in from

525
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Morgan's side. Yeah, forget how it's phased exactly, but the

526
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: implication is that they share the bathroom. The Morgan and

527
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: the boys share an upstairs bathroom, and I was like

528
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: trying to imagine because if you look in the like,

529
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: do we ever see into the bathroom, like where's the

530
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: other door? We well again that we do episodes, because

531
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: I specifically remember the one where Corey staring staring in

532
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: the mirror and I come in with the Mr Potato Head,

533
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: like you look like Mr Potato Head. So we do

534
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: scenes in the bathroom. There's two doors at that point,

535
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I do remember Lindsay by this

536
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: point playing Morgan coming into that scene. So she comes

537
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: into the bathroom with Corey and Eric. So I don't

538
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: know if she comes in from the same side or

539
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: if they allude to the fact that they share a bathroom.

540
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: But all right, so we do end up seeing the

541
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: bathroom upstairs, but other than that we never see I think,

542
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: So I don't think we will find out. There's never

543
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: an Allen an Amy scene. Is there up there no room?

544
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: So uh, we know Sean is hiding in the bathroom,

545
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: which is a big problem. But then just at the

546
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: right time, Sean comes back in through the window. So

547
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: there's also window out of the bathroom. There's a window

548
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom that I guess goes to the treehouse.

549
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Or how do you get from that bathroom window to

550
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: the sec in story window? You Spiderman scaled the house.

551
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: I don't know severely the tree the treehouse because I

552
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: think when I'm running in other episodes with UM with

553
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Mr Turner, I end up dropping down from that tree

554
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: in the backyard. He catches me if I remember correctly,

555
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to escape right, say that in this

556
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: episode you say I climbed the tree. I climb the

557
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: tree and went and came in the window. Yeah, I

558
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: mean say that. So it's you know, from the side yard.

559
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I guess the tree and the bath The tree matches

560
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: up to the bathroom. The tree is big enough that

561
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: it goes from the bathroom to also his bedroom in

562
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: front of the bedroom. Yeah, okay, so eric ce Sean

563
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: but says he doesn't want to know what's going on,

564
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: but he does need he wants to UM. Yeah exactly.

565
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: He decides to bribe them, Uh, they're going to do

566
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: all of his chores, and at that time Alan comes

567
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: in says it's time to take out the trash and

568
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: up Corey volunteers. So then we are in Phoeni's class

569
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: very quickly. Sorry you say you don't like to do stunts,

570
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even a stunt, but the look on

571
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: your face when you just drop out of frame because

572
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: you don't do it big. You just go you like

573
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of your body like your bones just go water

574
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: and you just put it very fer When I tuck

575
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: under the bed, yeah, I was like, this is there's

576
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: some like hijinks going on. It was very very far

577
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: for the time. He was good on this episode and

578
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: all of those beings. I was like, oh, this is fun.

579
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: Caught the same thing exactly. Yeah. Yeah, you could have

580
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: easily not gotten a laugh on the fall, like it

581
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: could have just been a frantic fall, but the way

582
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: you did it, you ended up finding a laugh where

583
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: there shouldn't have been one. To your point earlier, Danielle

584
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: about how you kind of wish that the lesson had

585
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: been introduced earlier, you know with I Actually, what I

586
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: really appreciated about this episode is that it stays in

587
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: this sort of like hijink Cee, you know, like hiding

588
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Sean and in the bedroom and the vacuum later and

589
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: all this, all these like little bits that you know

590
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: are fun. Like I think if we if we it

591
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: got too heavy handed early on, it wouldn't have earned

592
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: that ending. But the fact that that classroom scene, I

593
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: don't know, I felt like, if you know, because even

594
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: this scene that we're about to enter the Telltale heart,

595
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: it is more fun that you know, it's more fun

596
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: than it is serious. Like into early it would have

597
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: felt like not it would have felt like a very

598
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: special episode of World as it comes to a hijinks

599
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: episode of Boy Means World. At the end, there's also

600
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: a great lesson, Yeah, rips your heart out. Yeah, Well,

601
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: it's still at the end of the day, it's still

602
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: this is the thing that I forgot because of of

603
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: how much we know this. This episode was important for

604
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: Sean and important for writer. At the end of the day,

605
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: it's still a Corey episode. It's still Corey learning about

606
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: his friendship and his choices and how he is in

607
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: the dynamic of the friendship. And we're following Corey as

608
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: he's hiding Sean as opposed to following Sean as he's

609
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: going through something which I thought was kind of an interesting,

610
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: interesting way to write it, frankly, because it's still about Corey,

611
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, kind of quite cool. All right, you're right, writer,

612
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: I take back my original comment. Way to be wrong, Danielle.

613
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I was wrong. I'd like to issue

614
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: a public apology, not just to writer, um, but really

615
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to everybody. How many times you have in this episode?

616
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I actually forgot I was in

617
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: this episode altogether, and then when I saw myself, I

618
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm actually in this episode, um political

619
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: statement sitting so I know you have to set up

620
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: the scene, but just the first thing we see sitting

621
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: there watching it with my wife last night, and she's like,

622
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: that has to be the biggest Danielle's hair will ever

623
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: be on this show. Your hair was so big it

624
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: so made those Richard Carusoe curlers you really do in

625
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: their work. So Tapanga tells Mincus that Sean was making

626
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: a political statement with the cherry bomb. Mr Feenie walks

627
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: in and tells the class that Shawn's parents said he

628
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: didn't come home last night, and he alludes that maybe

629
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Corey knows where Shan is, and then Corey reveals he

630
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: knew exactly where the bomb was set off, and Mincas

631
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: spells a conspiracy and a cover up. Mr. I have

632
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: a question. I have a question, do you think because

633
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: I know what I think? Do you think by this

634
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: point in my head, Alan and Amy the second they

635
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: heard the bumps upstairs, essentially new Sean was up there.

636
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Pheney called them, was it calls them? Yeah? He if

637
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Phoene found out first climbing in yesterday called the Matthews,

638
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: which we never saw happened off camera. So they didn't

639
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: know when you were up there with a puppy, but

640
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: obviously that night, later on that night, because otherwise they

641
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: would have called the cops. Right, That's what I'm doing.

642
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Sean's parents, Yeah, that's what I figured. So they Sean

643
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Perry knew where he was the entire time, which is

644
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of a stretch. So at this point

645
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: they are testing Corey. They're like, this entire situation like

646
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: is to test Corey because that means a teacher and

647
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: two sets of parents, Sean's parents and are are waiting around,

648
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: knowing what the situation is, waiting around for Corey to

649
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: do the right or Sean to do the right thing. Yeah,

650
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: it's really interesting extreme test. So that's what I meant.

651
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Phoenie knew this. He walks in, he knows Sean is missing,

652
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: and this is all again about Corey getting core a

653
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: lesson to get Corey to do the right thing. Yeah,

654
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of intense actually think about Yeah, it's a

655
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: little it's a little elaborate. I don't think. I don't

656
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: think as a parent, I would be comfortable with another

657
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: set of parents keeping my kids so they can test

658
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: their kid on his moral you know, compass. That's a

659
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: little weird. It is a little it's a little far fetched.

660
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: But also we have established that maybe Sean's parents aren't

661
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: the most ideal parents in the world. Well, here's the thing,

662
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: and doesn't care about any other student. This is this

663
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: is the thing that hit me. That probably didn't really

664
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: occur to me at the time, but like certain and

665
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: it's in the next scene, but like it is like

666
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: is Sean being hit by his dad? Like is he

667
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: It seems like that, It seems like that's the underlying

668
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: thing because he says, he's like, my dad's gonna kill me.

669
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: He'll he'll kill your dad to get through to me.

670
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: And it's such a genuine fear and like that Shawn's

671
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: willing to run away from another his best friend and

672
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: his parents parents and go to school to sleep on

673
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: the ground. I was like, oh, this is darker than

674
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: I thought. This is like, you know, this is probably

675
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: a kid who's like genuinely scared of one of his

676
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: parents or both of his parents in a way that like,

677
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have to say on the show,

678
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: but I think probably, um, you know, a lot of

679
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: kids watching would have related to in a very you know,

680
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: in a sense of abuse, like like oh, I need

681
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: to get away from my parents. And you know what

682
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: else it made me think of is whether or not

683
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: they let your parents know that you were there, and

684
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: it was you know, what keep him, you know, like

685
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: if there was you know, a little bit of like

686
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: yeah exactly like you know he's yeah, like yeah, that's

687
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: kind of what I thought. But which which again is

688
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: completely different to when they actually later cast Chet, because

689
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: they cast kind of a big teddy bear who may

690
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: might have always made the wrong decisions or right, might

691
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: always be looking for the next kind of but nothing

692
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: about Blake came off as he was would have been

693
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: physically abusive, like he wasn't intimidating. So it's interesting how

694
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: they probably, you know, the character obviously changes as they

695
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: as they move forward, but I thought the same thing.

696
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, is he is he staying away

697
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: because he he's going to actually get the hell beat

698
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: out of him? I mean it's like I think so, yeah,

699
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: I think it was an underlying used to believe. Like,

700
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: having watched it now, I'm like, yeah, the the the

701
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: the intensity of my emotions, especially in the next scene

702
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: and then the last classroom scene, I was like, well,

703
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: well we'll get to it. But yeah, it doesn't I

704
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: mean again not to not to take it to a

705
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: whole different place, but then it doesn't. Don't you think

706
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: with the character the way they've set up Alan, if

707
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Alan knew that Sean was getting actually physically hit, don't

708
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: you think Alan would have done something? Yeah? I mean

709
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: I think here's the thing. I think the show is

710
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of having it both ways, right. It's implying that

711
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: my character might be over overreacting, and and that my

712
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: dad quote unquote going to kill me is metaphor just

713
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: like perbly write um. But I also think that for

714
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are spanked or smacked around

715
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: by their parents and in a way that they rationalize

716
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: and that parents don't think of as abuse, which I

717
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: think still continues to go on and certainly was happening

718
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: to a lot of families. I think that this storyline

719
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: would have spoken to those kids and to those families

720
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: and would have directly addressed that issue, you know, because

721
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: I definitely think that. Yeah. I mean, if if we

722
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: had said out loud, like, oh, my dad is going

723
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: to hit me, then it would have become a very

724
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: special episode, which we did do later, we did an

725
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: abuse of an episode about a child abuse with Arianna

726
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: Richard exactly. So by not saying that, but by implying it,

727
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: it's sort of like the show can have it both ways,

728
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: is and and it can speak to that issue without

729
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: having to really address it head on. And I think

730
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: that that was really kind of cool. Like I watching

731
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: it this time, I was I was just struck by

732
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: how emotional my character was, like how how sad my

733
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: character was, and how scared my character was, And it

734
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: seemed severe to me. It seemed more, it seemed extreme,

735
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't seem like this is a kid

736
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: just worried about getting in trouble. It seemed like This

737
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: is a kid contemplating completely running away from his home

738
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: life because his home life sucks that bad. And we

739
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: didn't even have to do that much about it, you know,

740
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: we have to discuss it too much. But the it

741
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: justest struck me as very severe and that's kind of cool.

742
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the reason why people relate

743
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: to Sean, you know why people have said to me

744
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: over the years, like your your character felt like something

745
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: slightly different on this show, and it felt like I

746
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: could relate to that character more than I could relate

747
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: to the Matthews. Um, I think there's a lot of

748
00:37:51,000 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: people out there who felt that way. Yes, so, uh.

749
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie begins reading The Tell Tale Heart by Edgar

750
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: our Loves. I love that he never looks down at

751
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: the book, just directly, so funny, and Bill's voice is

752
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: just so you know, he's just one of those people

753
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: you want to hear reading great literature, him doing it

754
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: looking right at Corey. I was dying. Jensen asked if

755
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: there was some sort of effect in Ben's shirt that

756
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: was like doing a heartbeat, but there wasn't. It was

757
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: just him using his chest to Breathe have we done

758
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: the push ins before have we done like a pushing

759
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: on the body. It was interesting the way they did

760
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: that was the first time where I was ever like

761
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: boom right in on the heart the thunderclasp and the

762
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: lightning going and the crash and everything. Yeah, Corey has

763
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: a stunned look on his face. Well, Poenie reads and

764
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: we focus on his very deep breaths, and then we

765
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: have a commercial break. We come back. We're in Corey's bedroom.

766
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Amy is vacuuming the room and hits Sean in the head,

767
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: who is hiding under the bill. So well, very funny.

768
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Corey walks in talking to Sean, but quickly realizes his

769
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: mom is there, and she says she found what Corey

770
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: is hiding. His telltale heart starts pounding again that he

771
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: organized his closet. Sean is a cleaner kid than Corey. Well,

772
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Sean had a lot of time on his I had

773
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: a lot of time on his hands. Because he talks

774
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: about it. He's like, your video games are very outdated.

775
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: Now there's a pong reference. So this is what if

776
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: we were to do this today, what would be the

777
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: rest I don't even know what was before? Would be

778
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: like sorry, your Mario, I mean, it's like there'd be

779
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: something because no one would get pong, he said, Pong

780
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: today my whole thing. Yeah, games anymore, everything's iPad, at

781
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: least at Indie's age. I don't know. I think when

782
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: you're older, still PlayStation thirty or whatever it is now

783
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: PlayStation whatever it is. Yeah. So Amy leaves and Sean

784
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: comes out from under the bed. He admits he cleaned

785
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: the closet, and Corey braggs that he didn't snatch. Uh.

786
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: This is where we get some of the hands through

787
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the head because you've now been hit by the head

788
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: with the vacuum. I mean hands with the hair, not

789
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: hands with the head, um Sean, and then shot shot shot.

790
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh sorry. Alan then comes up and tells Corey he

791
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: put about six bills in the mailbox outside of his

792
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: story yesterday and he heard what Sean did. Corey seems

793
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: very guilty, and then Sean sneezes that this is a

794
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: great little beat, a great little beat. He's so fast.

795
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: The minute it happens, He's like, huh, sorry, funny, and

796
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: then Alan says bless you, and he goes thank you.

797
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: So cute. Alan is telling a story about someone he

798
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: went to school with who was like Sean, dangerous troubled kid.

799
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: Alan then jumps back onto the bed without Sean and

800
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: knowing Sean is hiding there and is obviously talking to Sean,

801
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: but without giving it away. Alan says, of Corey ever

802
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: does anything bad, he can always come home. That nothing

803
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: is as worse, nothing is as bad as not coming home.

804
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: And he says he's a come homer. Don't worry, dad,

805
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm a real come homer, come homer. But I had

806
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: forgotten how much Alan and Amy were in the show.

807
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: For lack of a better way to put there. I

808
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: just as you know, you're sixteen, you're doing your scenes,

809
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you're in school, you're doing that stuff. You don't realize

810
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: how intricral the parents were so huge. I mean, it's ugly.

811
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: He was so good in this scene, and just the

812
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: emphatic way you can always come home, it was I

813
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: thought it was. He's a genius Brilliana. And the second

814
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: jump on the bed I loved too, just for no reason.

815
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: That one he just gets up and jumped back. Alan

816
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: then leaves, and Corey tries to convince Shawn to just

817
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: explain what happened to Alan. He can work it all

818
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: out and Seawan says, no, I can never go back home.

819
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: So this is I remember, Um, we recently were doing

820
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: the Q and A episode and were asked about improv

821
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: This was being a horrible actor at this age. I

822
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: remember I improvised the word mischievous into this scene. Okay.

823
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: It was like I said, it's like we do these

824
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: little mischievous things or like instead of like bad things

825
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm not it's the line I blew up

826
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: with my and I remember thinking, oh, I I understand

827
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: this script, like I understand what Sean like the message

828
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: that Sean is saying, and so adding the word mischievous

829
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: makes it clearer. Remember Michael and the entire writing staff

830
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: coming out and being like what was this word? What

831
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: was this word in the script? What is this doing here?

832
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: And my heart just sinking. He's like, there's a word.

833
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: What was it? Well, and they're all looking in the

834
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: script like he's in. Michael's like, no, he said this

835
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: word that wasn't doesn't make any sense, And I said mischievous.

836
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, and I was like yeah, He's like

837
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: did you improvise mischievous? Oh my god. Yeah. He's like, don't.

838
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: That's not the way kids talk, which is absolutely true,

839
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: but you know, like it's you know, because like being

840
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: a good actor, especially being a good improv actor, means

841
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: being in the moment and being present and being being

842
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: a part of your character. I was like clearly intellectualizing

843
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: and like thinking in terms of like, you know, a

844
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: better word that would help clarifying. Yeah, it's like Sean

845
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: would ever use the word mischievous horrible acting. I disagree.

846
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: I think it's good acting. I think it's just more

847
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: right than anything else because at that age would absolutely

848
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: have used the word mischievous. So that's so funny. Don't

849
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: don't do that. That is really funny. Um, I don't. Yeah,

850
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure I have moments like that where I tried

851
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: to improvise, or maybe I just never had any uh confidence, yeah,

852
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: or even just confidence like oh yeah, no, that's definitely

853
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: going to get shot down. I remember, I can remember

854
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: a specific time where you did something where you one

855
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: up to me and got a much bigger laugh. You

856
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: you mean, yeah, you built on my laugh and got

857
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: an even bigger laugh and stole the scene and was awesome.

858
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: I know exactly the moment it was. We can wait

859
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: for we can wait fourteen years to get to it

860
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: if you want, or we can talk about it now.

861
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: Let's just wait fourteen years. It was the episode, the

862
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: black and White episode where we go back to CASABLANCT

863
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: and we're you're I'm sitting across the desk, um, and

864
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: you come in to hire me and you're like, tell

865
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: to me straight, stupid or something like that, and I

866
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: say something and I put my hand on the desk,

867
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: and you had never done this before, but in front

868
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: of the audience you then say it back and put

869
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: your hand in front of mine, and it's just the

870
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: way you did it, built on my laugh and got

871
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: a much bigger laugh. So there were times you did stuff, Danielle,

872
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: don't sell yourself. I can remember several of them, but

873
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: that one always jumps into my head. Well, thank you.

874
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch that. Okay, we'll get to

875
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: that in I'll be sixty. So Corey calls for Alan,

876
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: but Sean bolts out the window. Alan sees Corey yelling

877
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Shawn's name out the window. Um, yeah, this kind of

878
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: bummed me out. This kind of bummed me out for Sean,

879
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: even though I think you know Corey was I was

880
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: like that sucks man. Your friend. Yea, yeah, but to

881
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: me it spoke to the severity of Seawan's fear, you know,

882
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: like that you just can't I couldn't get over this episode.

883
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: It was like, really, dude, dude, like it's it's that big,

884
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: it's that big of a deal that you're gonna avoid

885
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: your parents. That kind of seems like, yeah, it seems like, yes,

886
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: it really was that bad. So then we are in

887
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: the Matthews kitchen. Corey tells his parents Sean is gone,

888
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: and he admits that he was hiding him under the bed.

889
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: His parents continue to pretend they didn't know. Ish then

890
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: of course they admit that they knew the entire time

891
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: that Sean was hiding. Mr Feeney saw him sneaking in

892
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: and called them, and Corey then says, well, you didn't

893
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: tell Sean's parents, did you, And they say, of course,

894
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: we told Sean's parents, but he knew that he was

895
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: safe in our house for the time being. Alan then

896
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: says that Sean has some rough edges and he can

897
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: go one of two ways. Alan admits he was like

898
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: Sean as a kid and he had a best friend

899
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: like Corey. Based on my mind, I did not remember

900
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: this right away. Oh my god, I thought it was

901
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: so cool that Alan compares himself to Sean. That is

902
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: such a great turn, because I guess the assumption would

903
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: be coy, he was the Corey. And the fact that

904
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: you know the turn is like I was that and

905
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: I had luckily I had my friend Richie. I just loved.

906
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: I just thought it was such a nice moment and

907
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: something that like I had forgotten. And I don't know

908
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: if we do this again where Alan identifies with Sean,

909
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: because that's a cool touch. I don't know. Remember the

910
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Cult episode, and there's a bunch of different ones. I

911
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: remember him standing up for me in the Cult. Think

912
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times he identifies. So cool. You

913
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: know what's really cool about it is that it humanizes

914
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: and doesn't otherwise for we we have sometimes given UM

915
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: the show a little bit of crap for other rising nerds,

916
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: and you know the way we've talked about those weirdos. Yeah,

917
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: and yet then to its credit, if we're going to

918
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: criticize when it other rises, we also have to give

919
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: it credit when it doesn't. It really humanizes that even UM.

920
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: It humanizes the idea of going the other way that

921
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: not that there really is no such thing as a

922
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: bad guy. That it's just person, a person who has

923
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: made bad choices and is a little lost. Yes, and

924
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: that the kid. There's those thing as a bad kid,

925
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: which I think is in which you know it's yeah,

926
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: you can still go either way. And again, Rusty just

927
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: killing it. I mean he's so good. Maybe speaking of

928
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: bad kids, maybe this is a good time for a

929
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: little too much shirts. Yes, a great kid. Let's play

930
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: ended up not talking so much about which is you know,

931
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: we didn't talk so much about the episode as uh,

932
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: whether Indy thinks he's a good influence or a bad influence. Yeah,

933
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: so my character got in trouble. Who um, have you

934
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: ever a little firecracker? No? I don't think you have

935
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: it all. Do you have any interest in lighting firecrackers? Dad?

936
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: It seems like you don't even know me. What does

937
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: that mean? Lovely lighting fire quackers? But have we ever

938
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: done it? Do you think you are a good influence

939
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: or a bad influence on your friends? I don't know.

940
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: Are you the one that says let's break the rules

941
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: and do something bad here or are you the one

942
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: who said, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop what you're doing? Because

943
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: we got to follow the rules. Some people say they

944
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: wout to break out of school, what they draw plans

945
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: for it? And once the girl she actually went out

946
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: of this school. She dug a hole under the fence. Yeah,

947
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: he dug a hole and went under the fence out

948
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: of the school. Did she get caught, Yeah, she went

949
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: back in. But you think I'm free and that you

950
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: just culled back into the school. So she wasn't really

951
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: going to run away from school. She was. She literally

952
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: had like her backpack, her water bottle. Would you brought

953
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: money with her to buy because he was because there's

954
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: like a little food market school. Now you would you

955
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: run away from school or would you run away from home? Ever?

956
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: You think if you ran away from home, where would

957
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: you go? I'd go to my backyard and just trying

958
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: to camp out there. Ja, my parents still know him

959
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: out here. I keep waving to them, a little widow,

960
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: but I'm sure they don't see me. Green worsh meadows

961
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: on the side of my trampoline, D D D do

962
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: I go to my backyard and I'm there for at

963
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: least forty two days. Don't ever run away? You can

964
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: always come home, Yes, father wink alone. Is that why

965
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: he's counting the days that he's he's gone. No, But

966
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: I just loved it. When I asked him if he's

967
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: going to run away, he runs away to his own

968
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: house yard. I was like, great, that's all I needed

969
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: to hear. Dude, you're a good kid. That's all you

970
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: can think of exactly. I was like, if that's the

971
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: farthest you want to go, it was our backyard. Also,

972
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: he's waving to you. The only reason he hasn't been

973
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: rescued is because you'd haven't seen him. Who at that

974
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: age is tunneling under a fence? I know, isn't that intense?

975
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean, is there no open gate? You've got a tunnel?

976
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: What's what's happening? Oh? Man, that's great. I'm so glad

977
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: we had a too much shirts. I know, you only

978
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: like to do it when he's like really interested in

979
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: doing it. So I'm glad he had some time off

980
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: because that was a great one. So, based on Alan's

981
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: own experience, Alan says, Corey will know what to do

982
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: when Sean comes around. And then it is very late

983
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: at night. We are in Phoene's classroom very quickly before

984
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: we get to the classroom. I have to point out

985
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Eric in the back of the kitchen scene for some

986
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: reason just is cooking something and then leave you And

987
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: we're just gonna leave and leave the stove unattended. That's

988
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: something obviously very much needs. Run out And now I'm

989
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: leaving one of the cigarette at that moment, it's like,

990
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: get me out of here. I delivered my lives, I'm gone,

991
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: and that was it. I just left. So I just

992
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: wanted to quickly point that out because it was these

993
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: are episodes where they obviously wanted the family to be

994
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: there but had nothing for us to do, so there

995
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: wasn't even business. It was just like and Eric exits,

996
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: that was it. I know I noticed that too, but

997
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: I did think at least it looked like you were

998
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: running out after Morgan as opposed to just like go.

999
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: It looked like you were chasing after her because I've

1000
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: just decided to leave. Got a smoke. Uh So does

1001
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: anybody do you guys remember the weird rain strip? I

1002
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: really noticed it in the Phoenies classroom scene. Do you

1003
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: guys remember the strip that went up against the window

1004
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: and that's how all the water just ran down the glass? Yeah,

1005
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: that's cool. Really cool the effect it has. Can I

1006
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: ask where Sean got a sleeping bag if he wasn't

1007
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: using a good question for and he was wearing Corey's

1008
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: clothes and he can stole it from We didn't see

1009
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: him grab it on the way out. No, he didn't

1010
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: take it on the way out, so he obviously he

1011
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: either robbed his sporting goods store on the way to

1012
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Phoene's or he somehow had a sleeping bag. Yeah, I

1013
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: think he probably stole it. That the implication is that

1014
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: a broke a window somewhere, all right, Yeah, I know,

1015
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: but not close, because yeah, I'm making him a real

1016
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: bad kid, like he sold Heroin to make sure to

1017
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: get the season bag. It's like, I think it's finally

1018
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: just props going gas. Just throw a sleeping bag there. Yeah.

1019
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: So Mr Feenie walks in and we see Sean sleeping

1020
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: in a sleeping bag under his desk. Seawan asks if

1021
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: Corey ratted him out, but Phoenie says Corey has actually

1022
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: been a loyal friend. And then Phoenie, while holding a

1023
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: strong canvas he left in class over the weekend, says,

1024
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: once the integrity has been breached, even the strongest fabric

1025
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: can unravel even the strongest friendship, right, it's metaphor. I

1026
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: also like how he said, you know, he's been a

1027
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: loyal friend. You're the one who's screwing up the friendship,

1028
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: Like the second you asked somebody to lie for you

1029
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: about something like this, you're the one who's the bad friend,

1030
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: not the other way around. I thought that was a

1031
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: really really cool point. Yeah, very true. And then I

1032
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: love his little here have a bandanna. Um, Okay, not

1033
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: to get into this because we got so many of

1034
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: the emails about the Llama, but how do we know? Yes,

1035
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: Alan says you when since he's picked since he learned

1036
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: to pick the lock on your plays a joke that

1037
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: we've been friends since the Lama pen but that goes

1038
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: all okay, or you guys have been friends since again,

1039
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: sometimes families get raised together in certain ways and you've

1040
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: been friends since you were like you just always been friends,

1041
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: been friends as you were too. So I didn't know. Yeah,

1042
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know how that was going to read. But

1043
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: you can send about it. I appreciate it. I do

1044
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 1: think it was Alan making a joke, but I did

1045
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: I did like that it sold the idea that you

1046
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: guys have been friends forever, and he's always been this.

1047
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: He's always been the kid with the rough edges. Yeah,

1048
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: and apparently a lot picks it at a very young age. So, yeah,

1049
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Corey comes into the entrance. Yeah, it's not Monday. I know.

1050
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: He comes into the class with an empty bag instead

1051
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: of the things that Sean asked for. It just visual.

1052
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: Why do you need the bag if you're not going

1053
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: to bring it? Why? It's touch, man, it's a nice

1054
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: visual touch. It makes it a scene. But so it's

1055
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: for the TV show because not for his friend, Okay,

1056
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: because it's like you literally carried the empty bag there too,

1057
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: then hand it to him to open it up to

1058
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: show the bag was empty. Yeah, yeah, I think it's

1059
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: it's a nice dramatic touch. I get what you're saying

1060
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: it's a cheap, but I thought, okay, I think it's

1061
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: nice because then I get to react to it. It

1062
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: was opposed to I didn't bring you anything. You know,

1063
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: if you can tell something visually, I guess action seems

1064
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: a little it seems a little ridiculous. Let me let

1065
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: me go get an empty bag and bring the empty

1066
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: bag in with me. I see both sides. I didn't

1067
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, that's not logical, but I did appreciate

1068
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: the visual touch of it. I didn't I got the

1069
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: visual I just didn't make a lot of sense to me.

1070
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, Corey says he drove to the school with

1071
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: Shawn's parents. Sean tries to keep running and he even

1072
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: threatens to beat up Corey, and Corey begs Sean to

1073
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: go home, even if that means he'll be grounded. Sean

1074
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: says he's going to be killed, and Corey says, well,

1075
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: we're twelve, we live again. And then Sean kind of

1076
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: quickly makes the decision all right, I'll go out to

1077
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: my parents, and you kind of walk out with almost

1078
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of a smile on your face, like

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00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: all right, buddy. And then it made me think, maybe

1080
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: it's not quite so bad at your house. Maybe it's

1081
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: not that you're that afraid. But I don't know. I

1082
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: think they just didn't want to end it on such

1083
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: a bummer. Note. Uh, I remember this scene so well.

1084
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: I remember yes, and I remember Ben being very very

1085
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: excited to do this scene, very nervous about it in

1086
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: a in a good way, excited more than nervous. But

1087
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: like I remember, I think this was the first time

1088
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: that Ben felt like he got to do drama on

1089
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: our show. And and you can see it in his face,

1090
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: like he is so present and he is so um

1091
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 1: both of you are confident, Like he is so confident

1092
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: in his like no, I'm just going to stand here

1093
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: until you you know, you have to beat me up

1094
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: to get me out of the way. And he's a rock.

1095
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: He's a rock. And I remember Ben and me both

1096
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: like pulling each other aside and amping up for the scene,

1097
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like we thought we were doing something really important. We

1098
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: thought we were doing a dramatic scene, and and and

1099
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: we cared. And I remember him caring so much about

1100
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: this scene, and um that there's there's there's a moment

1101
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: in the scene that I was like kind of taken

1102
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: aback by. And I remember the switch, which is I'm

1103
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: he grabs me and works almost like in this physical confrontation,

1104
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: and my line is, um, what do you want for me?

1105
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: And I think I had been reading it like confrontational,

1106
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: like what do you want from me? You know, like

1107
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: we're sort of going at it still, and instead what

1108
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: ends up happening is I like, have this really kind

1109
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: of sad? What do you want for me, And it's like,

1110
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: that's like the most Shaun Hunter moment of all right,

1111
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: like this whereas like it's gonna be internal sadness as

1112
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: opposed to external confrontation. And it's like, and that's what

1113
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like the depths of Sean's home life in

1114
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: this scene, like when he says I'm gonna They're gonna

1115
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: kill me. It's just like, I don't know. For me,

1116
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: I was watching this going like, oh wow, this feels

1117
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: way more severe than it probably should be on the sitcom. Yeah,

1118
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right. Then it kind of wraps up

1119
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: really quickly and it's fine, and then we see me

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: in the next and I'm happy and I just got

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: grounded and everything was okay. But these little glimpses that

1122
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: we get in these moments of like drama, it's pretty intense,

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Speaker 1: I think pays out the rest of the both of you,

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: both of you. It did take the whole relationship to

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00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: a whole different level. You kind of again, you saw

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00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: it a little bit with the with the Santa's Little Helper,

1127
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: but this was a totally different Again, that was all confrontation, right,

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: that was all like screaming at each other and throwing

1129
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: the basketball, and this like reaches this weirder point where

1130
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: it's like it stops and we sort of aren't in

1131
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: confrontation anymore, and we just have to sit with our

1132
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: emotions and our relationship and make a decision like, Okay, Corey,

1133
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: you're right, You've won this argument because you're just you're

1134
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: just such a good friend, and like there's no denying

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know. It's nice, it's great. It's

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: a really great scene. And then we are in the

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: Matthews living room. There's a knock at the door. Corey asks,

1138
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: what day is it? Amy says it's the nineteen Corey

1139
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: knows it's Sean. He freaks out, opens the door, and

1140
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: the no longer grounded Sean is ending there free after

1141
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: a month of being grounded, and we see the famous handshake.

1142
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: So much fun, and then I go to the TV.

1143
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: I love that moment, like, yeah, you go to the TV.

1144
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: Amy is on the computer with a truly tragic line,

1145
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: which is, I've got five more numbers to enter on

1146
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: this spreadsheet for the I've got your computer. She's got

1147
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: computer make on the machine. Five more numbers in this spreadshet,

1148
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: this abacus yeah, I just gotta It is so just

1149
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: every it's all set up for everything, right like the game.

1150
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: It's it's triple overtime, and you're on the phone with

1151
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: the girl. Of course, what you're saying like I almost

1152
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: had her? Yeah, I got her most almost tripped her

1153
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: in my claws. And then the power goes out and

1154
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: everyone panics. I didn't say have my Dolly's hair. I

1155
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: don't get to have the date. The triple overtime. Amy

1156
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: asks if Alan paid the electric bill, and he says,

1157
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: of course he did. On sherry Bomb day. I thought

1158
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: it was a very cute. I thought that was so

1159
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: that was really set up very well. And then Sean

1160
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: jumps up and see him at the door, which I,

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01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: what is that? Who did that? Somebody said that some

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01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: famous person said good night everybody. I think it was

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson. Maybe Ny Carson had no idea. They had

1164
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: to tell me how to say that, like what you know.

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01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: Every first take was just like good night everybody or whatever.

1166
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: But they were like, no, no, it's a bit do

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01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: a whole thing. And I think I do it a

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: couple of times. I think there's another episode I do

1169
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. I feel like this repeated. Yeah,

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01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: well really truly a great episode, right, I mean super

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01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: important show and for Sean, yeah, absolutely really defining episode

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: for the show. Uh well, some episode we get like

1173
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: this is the last one of the season, which is

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: where to Panga and Corey do their sock? Well, if

1175
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: Disney Plus is right, which they haven't been in the past,

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01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: that's not the last episode of the season. It's the

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01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: second to last episode of the season. Sirrel was the

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01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: name of the episode, and and it's the second to

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01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: last episode of the season. So I don't know if

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: that's another Disney that's the next sort of defining episode

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01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: of our show, where you know where it's like, oh,

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: this is what the show is going to be. It's

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: like this one Corey's alternative friends, that last episode you're

1184
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to see. Will if in every

1185
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: episode from here on out you are as comfortable in

1186
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: your skin as you were in this episode. I wonder

1187
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: if this was the real turning moment where you were like,

1188
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: I got it. I hope it was the earthquake man

1189
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: change in California. It was that, and we we were

1190
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: just talking about the earthquake again. That whole week was Aftershocks. Yeah,

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01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: an episode. It's front of a live audience. I don't

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: think with this episode because because everything was broken was

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: there was and you're you're also all of a sudden

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: on a set and firmly aware that you are standing

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: underneath lots of hanging lights and heavy stuff. I remember

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01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: being terrified at people being like, actually, this is one

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: of the safest places to be, which I don't know

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01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: if that's true. But the whole lights were changed, remember,

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01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: like they weren't just clipped up. They also had a

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01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: metal chance to everything. But you just look up and

1201
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: see all this swinging stuff. It's like in the horror

1202
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: movies where all of a sudden you're just around swinging

1203
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: blades everywhere. It's like, oh, everything here can kill me.

1204
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was that was to do this show

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: and this performance for especially the I would say, the

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: three of you, you and Ben and Rusty to do

1207
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: this this week, which was arguably one of the most

1208
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: uncomfortable weeks of my life, so I have to imagine

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01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: it was for everybody else. Because the whole ground was

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01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: shaking randomly all the time. Is pretty impressive. The house

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: we were living in at the time moved off the Foundation. Yeah,

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's not. It was. It was pretty

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01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. It was quite an earthquake. Um. Yeah. So

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: going back to what we were talking about with the

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01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: final episodes of the season, the final episode of season

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: one is called I Dream of Phoenie, and the second

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01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: to last episode, at least as far as Disney Plus

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01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: is concerned, is Boy Meets Girl. So we will double

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: check to see if Disney Plus is writer if we

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01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: need to go back to the DVD order I Dream

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01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: of Phoenie, the one where he's like Ben thinks he

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01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: puts a curse, Corey thinks he puts a curse on Peenie,

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: and Phoenie's like starts showing up everywhere. Yes, that one,

1224
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: it is okay. And I just got word from Tara

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: that Disney Plus is right that that is the correct order.

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01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: So it is not that Boy Meets Girls the second

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01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: to last episode of the season. We will get to that.

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: But our next episode that you will hear us recap

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Speaker 1: is season one episode eighteen, It's a Wonderful Night, which

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: originally aired March eleventh. N Thank you all for joining

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