1 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Tis of that street, shut Coast come power storys. I 2 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: tell myself not. This is a Theo Henderson from Media 3 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: House and I'm here in the studios with a resident 4 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: that has been several bouts of being on housed and 5 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: have some interesting perspectives. Eco Park is a very special 6 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: place with me and win in house because it is 7 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: where I got my beginnings and it got I guess 8 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: my sea legs in order how to highlight the stories 9 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: of the in house community in addition to Chinatown and 10 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: other areas, and I right now want to talk about 11 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things about what is pertaining to the 12 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: in house community without further dude, let's welcome Christie. Welcome Christie. Okay, 13 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: hi THEO. This is Christie. Hi everybody, this is Christie, 14 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: the unhoused representative of Highland Park. I wanted to come 15 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: on this show to talk to you guys about decriminalizing 16 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: the unhoused people in our communities. It is very, very 17 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: important that the people who are listening to this podcast, 18 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: especially the people who are on house, realize that this 19 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: is the time for us to build solidarity in our communities. 20 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: If you do not have an onn house representative in 21 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: your area, if for some reason you feel like you're 22 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: being threatened, that there's suits going on, that there's cops 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: trying to take all your stuff, that there is sanitation 24 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: department trying to take your things, and whatever community across 25 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles that you are, you do not deserve that. 26 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: We need to decriminalize you. And one of the steps 27 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: is to get the people in the community involved. This 28 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: is not an easy step. First, you have to build 29 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: solidarity within you, guys. I really think that the unhoused 30 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: people really need to build solidarity similar to the one 31 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: in Eco Park places like Highland Park. I was able 32 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: to stand up and be the representative for them, but 33 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: not a lot of neighborhoods have people that are willing 34 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: to stand up for them. We need to wake up 35 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: and stand up for our communities. We were mentioning earlier 36 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: before we go on camera, and I want to talk 37 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: about it because this is a conversation that needs to 38 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: happen in the unhouse, homeless and structural insecure communities, and 39 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: it's how we want to be called. A lot of 40 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: people say that they this term unhoused. I use it 41 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: because I get to create agency. But what is your 42 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: perspective on that well. I really think that calling us homeless, 43 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: calling us transient, calling us bombs, calling us anything else 44 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: other than on house can be kind of How do 45 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: you say, Uh, it could be a little offensive. I 46 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: mean you you're talking about people who are human beings. 47 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: You're not talking about trash. When you say transient, you 48 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: make it sound like we're true, like like we're picking 49 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: up trash. Like, uh, it just sounds so how do 50 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: you say? Okay, I don't wanna say racist. It sounds 51 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: so insulting. We're human beings. We are we we don't 52 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: have a home, so technically are homeless, but we're more 53 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: on house because California, Los Angeles is our home. Yeah, 54 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, we do have a home. We just don't 55 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: have a roof over our heads. Because there's more on 56 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: house people than you think. They're not just people on 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: the street. There's people in hotels, people sleeping in their house. 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: They don't have houses either, even when they have jobs, 59 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: even when they have a job to go to nine 60 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: to five, they're still on house. I think the terms 61 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: should change to give us back our dignity. That could 62 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: be a good way to start decrement. No, Liz, you 63 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: know one of the things I agree with is that 64 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a friend of mine 65 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and they was said, because I have seek sought shelter 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: at a place, well, you're not on house anymore. And 67 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I would say, you don't understand. I'm still in the 68 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: house because it's just not a stable place. Tomorrow I 69 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: could be out on the streets again if I don't 70 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: have enough plans to stay at this place. And I 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: think this is one of the conversations that many people have. 72 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: This visualization of a house, is that people think once 73 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: you're in a roof that you're not I stayed on 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: house on the kindness of someone's couch. I was on 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: house that wasn't my home, and it wasn't in the place. 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: It's not my home. If you're not paying rent, and 77 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: if you're not being able to take a shower at 78 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: your leisure and come out or your room and you know, 79 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: just walk around at your leisure, you're not housed. Yes, 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: you're not. You know, if you're not paying your own 81 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: bills and you're not able to use the home leisurely, 82 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: you're not. That's not your house. And if you have 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: to abide by sometimes and the praising the rules of 84 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: the or of the log rest of people that you 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: are on staying with. That's not how you're not how secure. 86 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: I have a question on that very particular point, and 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: he makes a very good point. A friend of mine 88 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: made it. He says, Uh, people will stigmatize the new 89 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: term on house. What do you think about that? Because 90 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: I have some ideas about it, But what do you 91 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: think about it? I think people shouldn't stigmatize the name. 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: I think they should be more accepting to it. As 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: I said, anybody who's on house, anybody who considers us 94 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: some quote unquote pomos who is listening to this podcast, 95 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: I urge you, guys, not just sustand buying solidarity, but 96 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: also to start using that term. If you start using it, 97 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure other people are gonna start using it soon. 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Don't call yourself something that they called you. Don't use 99 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: it to your advantage for the positive and not homos 100 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: come on House. Thank you for her saying that. So 101 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your story, because you 102 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: sound like you are doing some excellent things. You were 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: the representative, How did you start becoming the representative? What 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: made what was the lightning rod for you? To step 105 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of things. Basically, a couple of years ago, 106 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I was handcuffed for being on house when they did 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: a sweet They basically sort of like, how do you 108 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: say they did a sting on us, so I guess 109 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: to see who they could arrest. But these things aren't 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: These things aren't conducted or weren't conducted in Highland Park 111 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: just to catch the quote unquote drug users. They were 112 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: used to kick us out of the neighborhood because of 113 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: all the name bees in the area. That area of 114 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Highland Park got gentrified very quick and unfortunately a lot 115 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: of you know, racist Caucasians, which I don't want to say, 116 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, unfortunately there are a lot. They were on 117 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: calling you know, they're not they're not beautifying the neighborhood. 118 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: They're making their words, we want to make it pretty. 119 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: So they were kicking everybody out. They were blaming us 120 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: for a lot of drug use, which were not all 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: of us what we're doing, and they basically took our stuff. 122 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: They basically took all their stuff. How doesn't handcuffs, Well, 123 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: they took our stuff and that made me. That made 124 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: me very angry. I was like, Okay, there's no reason 125 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: for me and people on the street who I can 126 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: call family, because let's keep it real, sometimes people on 127 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: the street could be closer to them family exactly. They 128 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: were the ones that encouraging me. I mean, I don't 129 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: know if I'm putting too much out there, I don't know, 130 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: but me, I only smoked, me and my characters and 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: the only smoked spot. You know, I'm only I'm like, 132 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like, yeah, exactly, but yeah, so 133 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't like, oh, look at me, I'm 134 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: being arrested and I'm not doing anything. It was more like, 135 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: why are we all being like handcuffed for being on house? 136 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Then a little bit after, I ended up going to 137 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: the hospital because my cart was so heavy it ended 138 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: up sending a hernia to my L four and my 139 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: L five. I had to go to the house, but 140 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: I was kicked out for being on house. I had 141 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: to go back to the street while I was recovering 142 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: from spinal surgery. And while I was there, there were 143 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of news reports about the house in which 144 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: they were saying a lot of derogatory things, how they're this, 145 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: how they're unsightly, how they're this and that, and not 146 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: know something's got to be done. If at the least 147 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: that can help in my neighborhood, I'm gonna step up 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: and write letters and go to council meetings, neighborhood council meetings. 149 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: And that's why I started meeting people that could help, 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: and I started getting in touch with blay can as 151 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: WLA and of course LATOO, which I'm a proud member of. 152 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I love the Los Angeles Tenants Union and Yet oh yeah, hey, yeah, 153 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: of course those are great organizations that help the on house. 154 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: And again I urge the on house population who's listening 155 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to go to the nearest LATTO chapter and request either 156 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: an on house working group or requests to work there. 157 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: That's a good way to make a difference. Get in 158 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: touch with your LA Tenants Union, the on House Working Group. 159 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: They can help, They give up resources, they help people, 160 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: and they can help you. Get in touch with Street 161 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: Watch LA, who records when there are sweeps, who records 162 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: when there is unfair treatment of on house, so that 163 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the on house can have support not just from themselves 164 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: but from the community. As I said, it's very, very, 165 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: very imperative that we build up solidarity. That is why 166 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm a member of law because I've seen the things 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: that a Lot Too does within its foreign organization for tenants, right, 168 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: and I love what they do with the unhoused working group. 169 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: They don't just give out, you know, small resources like 170 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: water intents. They help decriminalize the unhoused, They help people, 171 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: They have bring awareness. This is what we need. We 172 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: need to stand up in our communities, all of us together, 173 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: the tenants and the un housed, and say this is 174 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: gentrification is affecting all of us directly. Yes, yes, the 175 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: more outstanding sorry, oh no, no no, I go ahead, please, 176 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: the more on house, the more evictions are in Los Angeles, 177 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: the more homeless people are going to be their unhoused, 178 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: the more unhoused people that's going to be on the streets. Therefore, 179 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna criminalize us more. They're gonna try to get 180 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: rid of us more. We understand they're gonna what I 181 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: want to ask you to because COVID nineteen has caused 182 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things that happen to bring it into 183 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: sharp relief. For example, I was thrown out of a 184 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: park within the Creative Park creat a park to create 185 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: a shelter for unhoused during COVID nineteen. The issue with 186 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Do you expect what do you think that 187 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more unhoused people as a result. People 188 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: have lost their jobs for not being able to pay 189 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: their rent. Hot of course, there's gonna be evictions. There's 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people ending up on a house. 191 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: And as I said, not everybody out there ship I'm 192 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that anybody should be criminalized at all, 193 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: but there's gonna be people that are like, you know, 194 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 1: wait what, I'm a hardworking person. Why am I being criminalized? 195 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: And that's the way you guys don't see it. Once 196 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: you're on house, you have absolutely no respect the cops 197 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: stopping your friends. Even in the hospital, they can kick 198 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: you o just because you're on house. Now, imagine being 199 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: unhoused and undocumented. That's even worse. You understand, You get harassment, 200 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: you get treated. I mean, like I've said, I've had 201 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: my tent burned down, I've had my tent ransacked, I've 202 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: been through spinal surgery, and I've been handcuffed just for 203 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: the sake of being on house, just for being on 204 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: the street. And again, this is a harmless stoner. Can 205 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: you guys even imagine what it must be like for 206 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: the substance users. I mean, I'm not gonna go and 207 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: criminalize the on house at all. I love the people 208 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. They have been better than my own family. 209 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: I've had very toxic family members, and the people on 210 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: the street have actually been even substance users themselves have 211 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: told me, don't ever try any substance. They're the ones 212 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: keeping me up there. One's going, yes me, keep going, 213 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: this is good, keep fighting for us. I actually ends 214 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: up getting more encouragement. So it's like, how could you 215 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: look down at them just because they're in substances and 216 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: say this and this and this and that, like you 217 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: have no idea how these people, these people like the 218 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: lives of these people live. I mean, I'm not these people, 219 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: these wonderful people live. I mean, you're talking about mothers, fathers, brothers, cousins, musicians, artists, 220 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: shy people. You're not just talking about like these big, bad, 221 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: horrible criminals that you have in your head. Stop thinking 222 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: what they say now in the movies. Start stop stop 223 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: looking at the world through one side. I mean, you 224 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: guys got to remember that the heartbreaks before the mind does. 225 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: So if you're seeing somebody with a mental illness, don't 226 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: just look at them with pity, but look at them 227 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: with compassion. This could have been my grandfather, This could 228 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: have been this, And then you say to yourself, no, 229 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: they can't be my mom. Now that's not gonna be 230 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: my grandpa. Really, really, really, How many on house mothers 231 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: are there in Highland Park with kids of all agents? Okay, 232 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: myself included. I have three boys. And you can't tell 233 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: me that your mom cannot be on house, that she 234 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: cannot fall n circumstances, that those circumstances could drive or 235 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: use substances. You cannot say those things. Stop looking at 236 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: people like they're trashed. Yes, I understand it's not nice 237 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: to see substance abuse. It is never nice. But I 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: see people having more compassion for people in the media, 239 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: like he's led your died of them overdose. Yes it 240 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: was medical overdose. But still they were drugs. Okay, prescription 241 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: drugs are that are not that different from heavy substances. 242 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Prince River, Phoenix through Barry More. These are 243 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: the celebrities that had was Nextquence Lindsay Low had all 244 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: of them and had mental health issues and stuff and usage. 245 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: But our society we're blaming and shaming society we have 246 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: we have been programmed to being heartless, callous and evil 247 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: and to find a way to other people in order 248 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: for us to be honest and open and compassionate about it. 249 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: How long have you been in house? I've been on 250 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: house for three years. I started in my truck. I 251 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: was in a truck that got repossessed because I couldn't 252 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: pay for the parking, so I had my truck repossessed 253 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: with everything. The person who sold it to me did 254 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: not want to give me the paperwork for it, so 255 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: when they went into the junk yard, that person took 256 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: it and gave away all my stuff. So the way 257 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: it was, that's horrible, and I can imagine there's challenges 258 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: of it. I want to ask this newer question. It's like, 259 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: what was it like the first night that you unhoused? 260 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Because I had someone reach out to me ask me 261 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: because they are becoming an house and they want to 262 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: know what's the first thing and what what did what 263 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: goes through their mind? What was your first thoughts? Well, honestly, 264 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that I was left with a just 265 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: out on the street. I mean, like I said, it 266 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: was circumstance. I lost my job, I lost my kids, 267 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't start going downhill, right. I'm not gonna say that 268 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I was prepared for it, but thankfully due to you know, 269 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: me trying to be resourceful, I get my truck and 270 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: all that. So I haven't had it hard the first 271 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: few days. But I've seen people who just they can't 272 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: handle it. It's really hard for them. It's like they cry. 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's not easy being on the street, especially 274 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: when you have nothing. When you lose everything, which most 275 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: of us do every time there's a sweep. We lose 276 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: all our documents, all our documentation, we lose everything. We 277 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: lose our blankets, our clothes. We literally have well we 278 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: have left on our bodies. Our shirts are pants and 279 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: if you don't have any socks and you're just when 280 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: you sand those, well that's how it is. Sorry about that. Well, 281 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: one of the things I noticed to like the first 282 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: night that I have and it does have a sense 283 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: of shock. But I walked a lot because it was 284 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: because everyone deals with it differently. I walked. I never 285 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: did it. I walked out in the valley trying to 286 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: find a place to force myself to sit down and 287 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: go to sleep somewhere, because it was like, I just 288 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: refuse to do that because I think it would have 289 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: to be a psychological breakdown, And so I just kept 290 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: walking into like they maybe a couple of weeks. Then 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: I did the bus thing. I used to sleep barn 292 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: the seven twenties Cinna Monica, But because in my mind 293 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I could justify I'm not completely all the way lost hope. 294 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: And I think people realize when they say people like 295 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: being out here, they don't understand the psychological, emotional, and 296 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: physical total it takes on people that they give up 297 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: hope if you continually demonize somewhe or you keep beating 298 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: him down. One of the things that I talked about 299 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: in another episode was the fact about the doll experiment. 300 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Back in the day, we had a black and white dolls, 301 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: and they would show black people the doll. They will 302 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: say what would be the good doll and what would 303 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: be the bad dogs? And based on the stereotypes that 304 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: black people would heard, they would pick the white dog. 305 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: And based on the stereohipe, the stereotypes stereotypes that about black, 306 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: bad things about black people. Even black people were saying 307 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: bad things about So if you continually say, or live 308 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: and be drummed into that you are horrible and wasted 309 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: breath and a drug dealer or with all these other negative, 310 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: nasty ideas, eventually you ingest those harmful stereotypes and you 311 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: tend to believe that, even if it's not about you, 312 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: you will say that you are better than this other 313 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: person because you're not this. So how are you? How 314 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: were you able to to come to the sense of 315 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: compassion that you expressed earlier? What made you look at 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: us all in the correct and the correct human lens, 317 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: that we're all in human We're a microcosm of society, 318 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: and we life happens to all of us. Honestly, what help, 319 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: when I would help, what made you wake up was 320 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: being on house seeing it for myself with my own eyes. 321 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: Because it's a world that you guys don't get to 322 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: experience until you actually get to live it. It's your work, 323 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you're indoctrinated to think a certain way to think. Oh, 324 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: homeless people, drug user, homeless people, bad homeless people, rape, 325 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: that's homeless people. And when you go into these encamments 326 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: and you actually end up losing everything and you become 327 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: part of the on house. You start realizing, wait a minute, 328 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: if they're not that bad, they're regular human beings, and 329 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: you start seeing the psychological, the emotional, all the damage. 330 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to glamorize by somethings to say I've 331 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: always been this kind of compassion everything. Don't like that, 332 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: but I've always tried to help out people before. You know, 333 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: like I said, maybe here and there are less track 334 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: of it, so I wasn't that wasn't as as active 335 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: as I might have wanted to be. But I mean, 336 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: you gotta look at people and see the humanity in them, right, 337 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: you know what I have to say. I was just 338 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: having a conversation earlier about these very same thing I remember, 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: and in fact, a very close friend of mine did 340 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: this and made me and brought me back. She was 341 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: the idea of when people would see unhouse people when 342 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: I was a kid. But there was there was this 343 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: lady that used to go around and this was before recycling, 344 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: where people always recycling. She was like, I have to 345 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: think she had to be mostly like ahead of her 346 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: time because this would actually in the seventies and eighties, 347 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: and I would see her going around and she would 348 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: wear shavel she was shabbily dress, but she would go 349 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: into garbage can and this is not like it is now. 350 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was like such a big surprise. 351 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: And my parents would say, if you don't stay in school, 352 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna end up. Or how many 353 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: people have like that? Are listening now? Have her parents 354 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: say when they see an unhoused person, this is what happens. 355 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: If you don't stay in school, you don't study it, 356 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna be. A friend of mine who 357 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: knew I was in house, told her daughter this very 358 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: same thing, and I looked at like, you know, this 359 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: is why we have such an antipathy against unhoused people. 360 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: It's because it's an ignorant and it's a very harmful 361 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: stereotype because now she's ingested that she's gonna grow up 362 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: and she's gonna spread that because you've passed that poison 363 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: on to her and she and as children, they trust you, 364 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: and they they believe that you have the answers. But 365 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: when you have a corruption, which it is, you've corrupted 366 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: this child who is innocent and believes the good in people. 367 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: And I've seen it when I lived in Chinatown Park. 368 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good kids that have a very good, kind, 369 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: open heart, and then there comes some nasty, corrupted individual 370 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: adult that has completely torn their whole life and their 371 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: vista of life away by saying these horrible things about 372 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: over sixty plus at the unhoused people. So what's your 373 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: perspectives on this? As I've said before, we really have 374 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: to stop this as a community. I mean, you can't 375 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: look around house people and guess whether they're on house. 376 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people will say, well, this person doesn't 377 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: have a job. None of them want to get jobs. 378 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: I've had people in the restaurant at Highland Park tell 379 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: me that we ask them for a bit of a 380 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: donation and maybe they could either donate some tacos or 381 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: at the very least so cut on the price. And 382 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: the lady told me, she goes, well, none of you 383 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: guys want to get jobs. And I'm like, excuse me. 384 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Undocumented people cannot get a job that quick here in 385 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: the US because they can't get you know, undocumented people 386 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: don't have a way to get back on their feet 387 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: as quick as a person that's documented. And some of 388 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: the unhouse people, as I've said, have mental issues, have 389 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: substance abuse problems, but those are not just choices that 390 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: they make up. And you know, the things that circumstances happen. 391 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: And as I've said, there's a lot of people like 392 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: I love the van. I'm let you know the yeah 393 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: before we call yourselves freedom fighters. The reason why we're 394 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: strong is because we choose to keep going and going 395 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: and going. But how many circumstances have the people on 396 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: the streets have to dealt with before they broke? As 397 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: I've said, the heartbreaks before the mind does. So you 398 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: have to really look at them and say, wow, what 399 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: have what? What's gone so wrong in their lives? Because 400 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: so many people punch themselves. They'll say I deserve this, 401 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: or oh I can't get a job, it's too late 402 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: for me. Look at me, you're more dirty, and they 403 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: already look down on themselves. And well, do not think 404 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: that the unhouse people are not aware of what they 405 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: are because they are don't and don't understand, unestimate that 406 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: they know what you think of him. That's another thing 407 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: what really blew my mind that there is a community, 408 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: how like you said, undocumented families out here, and we 409 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: need to talk about something else as well. Is about 410 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the undocumented families that are in fear of having their 411 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: families and their children separated because of some Nimbi nancy 412 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: or some nimb Nelson that decide, or some parent or 413 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: principle that sees them. Maybe when they're running back to 414 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: where their location, their hiding spot is, and they'll called CPS. 415 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: We need to we need to talk about. Yeah, I'm sorry, 416 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: but I'm not. I don't. I don't think highly of DCFS. 417 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see anything negative because I don't want 418 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: anybody to go anything. I'll go and say anything. But DCFS, 419 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: even if they are looking for the will for the child, 420 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: separating from their parent is not okay. And a person 421 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: not being able to make ends meet, which is happening 422 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: more and more and more and more and more and 423 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: more across the Sungeana, especially now during COVID and with 424 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: the gentrification rising, it's very easy for a lot LATINX 425 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: and Black families to find themselves low income, lower income, 426 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: and it's not okay. You guys are ripping people of 427 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: parting them, taking them away from their parents. Okay, maybe 428 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: they're not able to provide a completely stable environment for them, 429 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: but they're better off with their parents and with anybody 430 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: else are. But gentrification causes this, and like capitalism causes this. 431 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: That's because do you have this relief system about quicking 432 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: yourself up by your bootstraps if you cannot If we 433 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: don't have livable wages, we have a stactic wage from 434 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: over thirty years ago, and we resist creating a livable 435 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: wage for people to be able to support their families. 436 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: You're going to see poverty, and you're going to see 437 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: disruptions and symptoms that looked like they're dangerous because we 438 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: embrace that there's always capitalism has winners and losers, and 439 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: the people that are not successful or able to loot 440 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: the system, like President Trump with his seven hundred and 441 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: fifty dollars in taxes over So let's let's let's be real. 442 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: These things are the result of it, and we pay 443 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: people like business improvement districts to criminalize and displace people. Yes, 444 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: it's horrible. I mean, as I've said, so many businesses 445 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: around the neighborhoods, local neighborhoods that will look down at 446 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: you just because you're on house. I mean a lot 447 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: of people are so hypocritical they don't let people use 448 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: the bathroom. They're afraid of substance abuse, right, but some 449 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: people won't let them use the bathroom no matter what 450 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: they look like. And your like, excuse me, so you 451 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: don't want me to pee my pants, but you're not 452 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: letting you use the restaurant. But then complain when they 453 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: see people use the bathroom out of the public because 454 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: you don't allow bathrooms. You shut the bathrooms down, you 455 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: refuse to open bathrooms, You don't let them be able 456 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: to clean themselves. So what do you expect is gonna 457 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: happen exactly? I mean instead of trying to fight the 458 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: substance abuse. Instead of trying to I mean the substance abusers, 459 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: try to fight the substance abuse itself, right, Try to 460 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: decriminals them, try to give them the room to go 461 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. We're human beings. What do you want 462 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: to do because we're because some people use substances? What 463 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: that makes us what aliens like gives us a special 464 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: rock in our backs or something. No, we're still human 465 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: beings that deserve human necessities. And that's the fact that 466 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: we're going to need to use the rest and we're 467 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna need to be clean we're not gonna need to shower, 468 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: So I really commend I'm really so glad for all 469 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: the all the organizations that come and help us with that, 470 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: the Shower of Hope a lot too, street Wall chir La, 471 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: all the stuff that they do. I think that's a 472 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: huge improvement. But people in the communities need to stop 473 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: stop looking down at the unhused people and start looking 474 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: at the people that are causing the gentrification. Stop putting 475 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: them on pedestals. Yes, yes, it just makes me so angry. 476 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? These business developers I looked on 477 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: as they a great businessman or they're just so kind 478 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: hearted and all this kind of stuff. But yeah, they 479 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they are just very They're sucking the 480 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: soul out of the communities. Yes they are. They're just 481 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: criminalizing everyone they're trying to do. You guys, put them 482 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: on pedestals, as I said, but it's horrible. I can't 483 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: stand it. I mean, you see these businesses, they're putting 484 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: black lives matter, they're trying to give up water when 485 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: there's protests. But they're the same people that refuse to 486 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: help you if you ask for un house help. They're 487 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: the same kind of people that say, oh, well, I 488 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: can't give you a free pizza. What will that do 489 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: to me? You know my clients, My clients have to 490 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: pay and blah blah, blah blah. It's those kind of 491 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: people that are tearing the neighborhood apart, that are like, well, 492 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: this miural doesn't have to be here even though Hispanic heritage. 493 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Screw this. Let's take it out with Martin Luther King. 494 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: Let's take them out. Who cares. It's my business. I 495 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: do whatever I want with it, and I'll raise the 496 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: prices so that only gentrifying Caucasians can afford it and 497 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: screw everybody else. But heah, I love the neighborhood, you know. 498 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: And not only that too. Here's the thing too, of 499 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: the reality is like these people are, like again, are 500 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: seen acceptable by the city, and which brings up what 501 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: they use and they weaponize the police and security outfits. 502 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: So what's your perspective, What has been your experiences with 503 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: the police. Do you have a positive view on them? Yeahead, No, 504 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: I can't stand the cops. I'm not afraid of telling 505 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: people too that their biggest weapon, right, especially the on 506 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: house people in the community who are listening to this 507 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: as we speak, anybody listening who's on house. Your biggest 508 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: weapon against the cops right now is your video camera. Okay, 509 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: because you are maintaining shelter in place in public, and 510 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: as long as you're in public property in public, you 511 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: can do shelter in place. There's nothing illegal of a 512 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: being on house right so there's no reason for the 513 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: cops to be coming down at you right now during 514 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, when there's a global pandemic and they're just 515 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: harassing us for the sake of being on house. I 516 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: don't like it. I'm sorry, but this is I don't 517 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: know what to say. I just can't stand the cops. 518 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean, a a cab all day can stand them. 519 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: And on that note, is there anything else that you like? 520 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: For is because you have some good, great news. You 521 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: mentioned that you have some great news that's been going on, 522 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about the news and 523 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: why you are so motivated now to make sure everyone 524 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: gets your message out. Well. I just want to put 525 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the message out because the people in Highland Park have 526 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: been doing so good. They're trying to clean up their areas. 527 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: The people in e Go Park have been following through. 528 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: I think Honestly, if the community start seeing us, the 529 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: Latin X and the Black communities start seeing that we're smoking, 530 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: are keeping our substance used in check, and we're keeping 531 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: that indoors, I think that's a huge help. And I 532 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: just want to I want everyone to reach this to 533 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: try to do that, to try to do the best 534 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: because it's gonna work. And people know what you do. 535 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: When they find out what you're doing and you're doing 536 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: the positive change, they start seeing the change in themselves. 537 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: And that's what we need. We need people to you know, 538 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: build solidarity within communities, but specifically the un house people 539 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: to stand up to group, to look out for one another, 540 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: to record and to know their rights. I mean, if 541 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: you do that, believe me, it's not gonna be that hard. 542 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: It's not so hard to just keep your substance using 543 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: doors and to keep your area clean. It's not that hard. 544 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: Everything else just comes together once you start, you know, 545 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: building solidarities. And the thing is, I wanted to tell people, 546 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: specifically you guys, that I'm kind of sort of stepping 547 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: down from being the in house rep for the area 548 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: of where I was from because I've been sheltered for 549 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: a bit. But I still want to work alongside Latto, 550 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: and I want to let anyone who's listening know that 551 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: if you guys need any kind of representation or any 552 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: kind of organizing or any kind of tips, you guys 553 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: should be able to get out more than help. I'm 554 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: more than willing to help people all over the community 555 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: who may need help organizing, who need to get in 556 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: touch with these organizations, who are having a hard time, 557 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: who may not have a phone or may not be 558 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: able to get online. I'm urging you guys to try 559 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: to get in touch with people like me because we 560 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: want I want to work with more neighborhood I want 561 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: to be able to go and spread this message across 562 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: I want to be able to show on empowerment. I 563 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: want them to be I want them to have the 564 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: confidence and say, Okay, we're on house, but we're still human, 565 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: you know. I want this to go to as many 566 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: neighborhoods as we can get, so that by the time 567 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: I start doing that, the people in Highland Park will 568 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: start stepping up. Every time there's a sweet every time. 569 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: You guys gotta know your rights. You guys gotta know 570 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: what's going on, know how to stand up for yourself. 571 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: And I've said your biggest weapon is your video camera, 572 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: your your phone, charge it record, no matter what, you 573 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: always record. That's an excellent place to end it. And 574 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: I thank you very much for you. It's taking your 575 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: time to come out. There's a quote that I said earlier. 576 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: It is said, and education with only the mind and 577 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: not the heart is not education at all. What we 578 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: need is we need a whole sale revamping of the 579 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: education system about what white supremacy, capitalism and gentrification does 580 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: for people that are impacted by it. But we also 581 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: need compassion and humanity and looking at us as human 582 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: beings in every facet, from either from gender, expression of identity, 583 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: from a class system, from raise, you name it. And 584 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: with that said, I thank you all for listening, and 585 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: I hope we meet in a lot of understanding. This 586 00:30:17,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: is del Henderson unhoused news. Tragedy has struck again at 587 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Eco Park. An unhoused name by the name Sean Murphy, 588 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: who would have turned thirty one on the twenty sixth 589 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: of this month, passed away on October second, twenty twenty. 590 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: This is the third unhoused depth amid COVID nineteen. The 591 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: heat wave and the brush fire and the aftermath. The 592 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: other unhoused people that were passed away in Echo Park 593 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: was Brianna Moore who was eighteen years old, Sean Murphy 594 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: who was twenty nine, and Andrew Cattl who On October tenth, 595 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: it will be the World Mental Health Day. Another tragedy 596 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: also occurred in San Diego, California. An unhoused woman was 597 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: run over by a tractor on Oceanside Harbor Beach. In Philadelphia, 598 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: housing activists are going to try to set up community 599 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: land for unhoused neighbors using inflammatory dog whistles once again. 600 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: In other news, Los Angeles City Council has revisited and 601 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: are pushing forward with the city Attorney my Fura direction, 602 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: Ordinance forty one eighteen and the special enforcement zones. If 603 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: you remember in previous episodes, I mentioned that ten of 604 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: the city council members voted to continue to sweep during 605 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen despite the CDC advice of keeping them in 606 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: the area. They're going to use these Ordinances forty one 607 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: to eighteen and special enforcement zones to target criminalize the 608 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: unhoused community. Council member Lee stated it's time to be 609 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: compassionate to business owners eighteen will prevent the young house 610 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: to sit, live, or even be near parks, bridges or 611 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: any of the businesses or schools. Insinuating that all the 612 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: un housed, even the ones with families, are are danger 613 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: to your children and choose the community. And as you 614 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: probably have guessed, because the city has a history of 615 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: coddling police brutality, with the example of recent George Floyd 616 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: and the other depths here, mister McLain, protests have demonstrated 617 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: the brutality the LAPD has done here. The constant agreement 618 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: with Nimbi's this will be a legal holocaust roundup. This 619 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: final solution is on the wings for increased police and 620 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: upcoming Olympics. In other dire news, marrick ar study abdicates 621 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: responsibility of the high sless crisis and used the imagery 622 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: of horsedung to describe the unhused community. Los Angeles is 623 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: the second highest number of unhoused in the United States, 624 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: according to a recent study in The New York Times. 625 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: It reports the number of elderly unhoused people have tripled. Meanwhile, 626 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: a vigilantic group who calls themselves Downtown New Yorkers for 627 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: Safe Cities and Safe streets are using the excuse that 628 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: the city did not consult them and the house community 629 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: are all criminals. Are using Twitter and Facebook to get 630 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: more supporters to fight the expansion of a shelter in 631 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: Feeding New York. Echo Park is creating a GoFundMe to 632 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: provide other alternatives as well as new services to provide 633 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: in Echo Park to help the Young House which is 634 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: trying to employ the unhoused get money for lights and 635 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: other amenities that are necessary that Mischell Farall council member 636 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: is trying to punch down on the unhoused community. Also 637 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: bear in mind Mitchell Farall is one of the people 638 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: that voted to continue to criminalize the in house with 639 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: the sweeps. Mitchell Pharaoh is also one of the ones 640 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: that are spear at the revisiting of forty one to 641 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: eighteen on October seventeenth, Weedian House, among other advocates and 642 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: partners such as Katown Farral, Los Angeles Community Action Network 643 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: Services Not Sweeps Hello Dogtown Podcast will be hosting an 644 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: Unhoused Voters Registration and education where we were gonna be 645 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: talking about the issues that are Germane to us and 646 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: to activate some activism in order for us to fight 647 00:35:29,200 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: the anti unhoused cinema and this is on Housed News. 648 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: I wish to provide this episode with some nuggets of 649 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: information about Los Angeles, California and its different locations. There 650 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: are many similarities with Eco Park and the city of Hawthorne. 651 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: Of course, you can have probably guessed it. It is 652 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: deeped in discrimination. However, Hawthorne is known also as a 653 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: sundown town. A sundown town is a town that refuses 654 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: black people to be in the town, to buy a home, 655 00:36:53,239 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: or even to stop doing through the night. Hawthorne resented 656 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: a white nineteen fifties aura. They also had Cold War 657 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: experimental planes. They had artists like Maryland and Roe, Beach Boys, 658 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: James Mansfield, as well as the Young Kid from Lasses. 659 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Hawthorne was named after the Scarlet Letter author Nathaniel Hawthorne. 660 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: It prided itself on being a very deeply religious community. 661 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: As if you probably have guessed in the history pertaining 662 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: with the African American community, anytime you see a religious community, 663 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: it is always usually with steeped in deep racism in 664 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: the country here and during the fifties and sixties, Hawthorne 665 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: was no example. It is similar and it is known 666 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: as the religious community, much like today's Trump religious community 667 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: evangelicals in order to attract the white religious racist community, 668 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: they would hold revivals bribing children to generate home leads 669 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: to rural open areas. Many times people from the Midwest 670 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: would come by and look in or would be tempted 671 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: to buy a house in that area. The Italians were 672 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: welcomed there, the Japanese as well. They were the gardeners, 673 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: but not the blacks, which is not surprise. Black people 674 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: were barred from living there. If caught in town, they 675 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: were thrown in jail, beaten, or killed. In the thirties, 676 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: the signs will say the N word, don't let the 677 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: sun set on Europe in Hawthorne. Hawthorne also boasts of 678 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: a famous resident and indigenous athlete by the name of 679 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: Jim Thorpe who won a gold medals and was not 680 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: a victim of the sundown laws that it held for 681 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: black Americans. Of course, I mentioned before, Marilyn Monroe spent 682 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: eight years there, as well as a another superstar, Sonny Bono, 683 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: who spent his formative years there. The same excuses about 684 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: quality of life and children's safety follow this community today. 685 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: The un housed community lives way in the boonies, away 686 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: from civilization. It took a while for us to find 687 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: the area and is very difficult to find out where 688 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: they are unless you're actively looking to go out and 689 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: find the unhoused community. They also get constant harassment. So 690 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: join us for episode thirty four of Whedian House, where 691 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: we get to know the residents and what it's like 692 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: to live out in a far away from civilization in Hawthorne. 693 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: This is THEEO Henderson from Whedian House. We're also out 694 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: here in Hawthorne at Hawthorne, California and near some train 695 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: tracks where we are here to get the story and 696 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: what life is like out here. As you understand that 697 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: unhoused people over sixty hous and unhoused people are everywhere. 698 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: That's just not in on the sidewalk. There are sometimes 699 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: near train tracks, abandoned buildings, cars and hotels, you name it. 700 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: So without further ado, we're going to introduce our guest 701 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: and he's gonna tell us a little bit how he 702 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: became unhoused out here. So welcome. Yeah, my name is 703 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: Filippe Solaris and I have like, uh three years on 704 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: the streets is believe me this car. How did you 705 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: become out on the street. Oh, because I was firing 706 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: my in my jav. First I have injuring my job 707 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: and you yeah, and then I have fired in the 708 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: jav and you know for things like I see in 709 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: the job. I want to sue the company, Like what 710 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: did you see that wanted to make you sue? Because 711 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: they are they're not just they are injustice in the job. 712 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: They're they're paying cheap, like really like you know they 713 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: said they have they are fair in the job. But no, 714 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: it's not right and you know many things. So I says, 715 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: I just had to sue the company. But my wife, 716 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: we are in in you know, not agree. She says, Okay, 717 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: if you want to do this, they're by yourself alone. 718 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: You are alone. And uh why she didn't want you 719 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: to fight back me? Oh because I don't know, because 720 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: I think I have the rights. I want to see 721 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: this this country right, this says is we have a 722 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: right to talk to what we disagree. Right. One other 723 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: things too, is like did you feel because you are 724 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: not are you documented undocumented? Oh? I'm documented, but I 725 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: mean like residents permanent. I don't have the citizenship just oh, 726 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: I say I see. So maybe she was concerned about 727 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: baby retaliation for your residency. Yeah exactly. And you know, 728 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: like I said, my wife, she don't disagree with me. 729 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: We have a problems. You know, this is not the problem. 730 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: Like this is just a little drop too, you know. 731 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: And I ended up on the streets first. You know, 732 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: believe me, I feel like the first day all these 733 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: days because you know, uh, sorry if I get emotional 734 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: because in this situation, I lost the communication with my kids, 735 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: I lost the communication with my wife. After after these years, 736 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: my wife came one day and says, this is the 737 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: papers for divorce. We are divorced and we're done. And 738 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: those days are like the worst for me. So I 739 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: think being on the street this is not a this 740 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: is just a part of the On top of that, 741 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, I got my carriage as somebody stolen my car. 742 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: I lost a lot of tools I haven't in the 743 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: storage because I can pay more the storage. You know, 744 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: in one week, become the like I ruined for me everything, 745 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: Like like we said, it's being homeless. You know, somebody 746 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: predicted this when I start coming with the homeless, because 747 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: first I'm sleep in my car. Then when I told me, oh, 748 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: he says, first you wanna lose your car, then you're 749 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: gonna lose this, and then he's like he predicted everything. 750 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: What was it like your first time to be out 751 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: away from your family and you're just out here on 752 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: your own and you just have you and yourself just 753 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: to deal with the situation. How did you handle that? Oh? 754 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: Believe me? Holidays like some people say in our culture, 755 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: says the men don't cry, but you know, I cry 756 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: a loud and I feel alone, feel too much pressure 757 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: on me? A how don't get seek? Maybe it's schools. 758 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know because something is holding me, Like I 759 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: think it's not down to me with me, it's not 760 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: down all of them like like be like throwing in 761 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: the alcohol and they you know, drugs or something like that. Right. 762 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: My ext question too, is like if you had someone 763 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: that was happening in your situation, what would you do 764 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: to help them be able to manage it? Because it's 765 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: tough to be out here, isn't it? Yeah, So what 766 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: would you do? How would you help prepare them? Because 767 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 1: like COVID nineteen and people are being evicted from their 768 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: homes and they don't know. They think it's just like 769 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: you living in a house. Everything is fun. You can 770 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: party every day, you can dance, you dog, So what 771 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: would you do do you? You said, like prepare somebody 772 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: in this for this thing is not preparation, like this 773 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: thing is like a coming, like like a heroicano or 774 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: like a yeah like a like but yeah, believe me 775 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: in this right here and homeless. And I been suffering 776 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: like stolen, like beat it up, like everything you said 777 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: you got beaten up. I got stabbed a few years ago. 778 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, uh, some of the perils about 779 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: it being out there. So what what happened with you 780 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: when you get how did you get attacked? Oh? You 781 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: know what the first time? It's a a bunch of 782 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: gang members, you know, explainable members and you know, you know, 783 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: like in a circle and and I'm in the middle 784 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: and I'm talking to the guy who sounds like is 785 00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: the directors and the gang members Like uh, I think, like, 786 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: like how do you say like, I don't think it's 787 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: without respect? The old I says is you know like 788 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: always I did is be my rights, no, you know, 789 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: express my rights. But he don't like it. He punched 790 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: me in the face. Let me on the floor, throw 791 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: like like like carn and knock down because he hit 792 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,959 Speaker 1: me sideways. I never happened this to me, so now 793 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: now and all, I said, hey, don't get close to 794 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: be but it's somebody I see, somebody like anger to me. Well, 795 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: and then one day happened when somebody hit me with 796 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: a cane. Right here, I have a scarf. I have 797 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: a scarf right here. You can see I see it. Yeah, well, 798 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, why would this person hit you with a cane? 799 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: Because you know that's why I I have something to 800 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: me like I'm a I have to joke alert with 801 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 1: the people. And this this is supposed to be my friend, 802 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: not my friend, but I know me and we living 803 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: together in one thing. Then I found him in a 804 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: couple uh not months, maybe in a month and a half. 805 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: I saw it in the street and we start joking. 806 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: I start joking with him and I saw him like 807 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: a kind of man or something like that, and he 808 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 1: started me chasing with a cane. But I think he's 809 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: like a game. So on the middle of the street 810 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: he he coming. I found a couple of friends, he 811 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: saluted friends, and then when when I go see back 812 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: to see him, he hits me with a cane. Then 813 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: like he hasn't. I'm sorry to hear you. No, you 814 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: know those are experience is like believe me, maybe these 815 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: things make me a strong song in this situation. I 816 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: don't know how many more I have to sell it. 817 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: I think, God, no more. But you know I want 818 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: to ask you too. Not because we were mentioning a 819 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit about it before we got on camera the police, 820 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: because they mentioned, like you guys have as you can 821 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: see here, there is no regular trash pickup and they 822 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: always complain about unhoused people are dirty and things. But 823 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: we were talking about something that happened with me and 824 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: as well as you is that people come and dump 825 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: the stuff that a house and they'll leave it with 826 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: and blame the unhoused. What what's going on? You know? 827 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: Like always they have people like I think they h 828 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: for them. It's too much take the thrust to the 829 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: dumb players because they had to pay and they have 830 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: they it looks like a day gosw places and clean 831 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: the house and charge a lot of money and then 832 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: they want to get the you said, the easy ways, 833 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: easy way out of this. This thrash is just dumping 834 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: distressing some place some place like it's empty, and they're 835 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna blame and the people. So which also brings up 836 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: an interesting point about how capitalism penalizes even house people 837 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: is they have so many ridiculous high prices, and instead 838 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: of abandon together and challenging the system, they rather punch down. 839 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: So what would you be able to how would you 840 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: be able to get this stuff out if you had? 841 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: But you know, you know, I can you see, to 842 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: remove this thress from here. You know that there's a 843 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: couple of dumb sters that I know where I can 844 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: every day they are empty. I can feed the trash 845 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: right there. But anyway, they're gonna still kickers out of here, right, 846 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: So what's the point. Yeah, what's the point? Well, also, 847 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: here's the thing to like you said, the sheriffs came 848 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: out here. What did they say? Oh they you know, 849 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: believe me, they don't say they don't they treat us 850 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: through nothing. That just says, uh, please, we can move 851 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: from here tomorrow because a crue the cleaning is coming 852 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: and they don't wanna throw away you know, our stuffs. 853 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: Where are you gonna go? I don't have no idea. See, 854 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: just because they're polite doesn't mean that they're exactly that's 855 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: the kindest will throw you out because they're just that's 856 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: that's that's what I think all the time, like, oh 857 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: they are nice and they're polite, but still if we're 858 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: asking where we can go, he says, got out of 859 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: the cattle. So they is just throwing the you know, 860 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 1: the ball to somewhere. We were coming out of the hotel. 861 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: It's like a coming like we are now more the 862 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: problems for them, like we are problems for another city 863 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: when where we are when we land there. But but me, 864 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: there is over there. You see, there's three down there 865 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: is uh the other side is right on the beach, 866 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: and uh they are we are like a ball like 867 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: they throw over here. Yeah, exactly. So basically they have 868 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: no solution for you. They just don't want you in 869 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: the neighborhood exactly. The definition of back, yes, exactly. And 870 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: they are some officers that very rude. He says, get 871 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: out of hat, get out of here, get go to 872 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: the freeways. Because in the freeways, you know, the freeways, 873 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: we have to deal with the highway patrol and the 874 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,479 Speaker 1: cultures and Caltrans is another people like a very rude 875 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: people like very rude Caltrans. There they are coming and 876 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: posted one day we want to get you get out 877 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: of you guys, get out of here, like we have 878 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: to do it because they an't coming with it. They 879 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: I think it's intimidation. Is the other way like they 880 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: use in TIS because they says you are transpassing, We're 881 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna give you tickets for trespassing, and you are here 882 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: when we coming you get you can get arrested. You know. 883 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: This is one of the things that I think of 884 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,959 Speaker 1: your universal things where the unhealth community is the fact 885 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: that we explaining that we are harassed and terrorized by 886 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,280 Speaker 1: the law enforcement. But they have people that run around 887 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: saying the police are wonderful and they don't do any 888 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: anything wrong. And it's like maybe one day this world 889 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: would understand and wake up, wake up to see the 890 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: reality of this. One of the things before I end 891 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: is what would be a way of us help you? 892 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: How can we get you back on your feet? It's 893 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: a good question. I have what I think, well, we 894 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: have we've found a place where we can stay, not 895 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: for a right because I don't want to leave for 896 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: on this tree because it's it's hard, like we say, 897 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: it's hard, so hard. Sometimes we get where we have 898 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: to sleeping with because the what is it's raining the 899 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: last year raining a lad and all the time I 900 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 1: was talking yeah yeah, like but I went up back 901 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 1: to the point, like he says to the police, is 902 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: some some people thinking the polypics is nice. That's what 903 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: I taught before before they when the first time when 904 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: I have my first first first with the shelves, you know, 905 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: I it is when I began to be when I 906 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: start coming homeless because I've been sleeping my car one 907 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: day coming and knocking my window and I says, let 908 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: me put let me pull the pants because in summertime 909 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: and I sleeping and I can underwear. They put me 910 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: in underwear on the street in front of the people 911 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: like I is passing, and I think this is this 912 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: is like a make make us low like in humiliation. Yes, 913 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: because you know, uh, nobody is the self to like 914 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: treat it like that. Nomal is this to be like that? 915 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: Because just too because just to being homeless or just 916 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: to being no money or you know, money don't change nothing. 917 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: We always being like humans and and there is no colors. 918 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: There is only one sentiment, like like a survival on 919 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: the street. Yeah, that's that's my opinion. Thank you very 920 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: much for your time. This is the Henderson from William House. 921 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna mild about a little more the interviewing some 922 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: other perspectives on the treatment of behind the house here 923 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: in Hawthorne, California. Thank you all for listening to Maybe 924 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: we again met in the light of other m This 925 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: is your hand from Median House. We are out here 926 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: in a ninety degree Hawthorne, California, and we are here 927 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: to show the different dimensions of what it is like 928 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: to be on house in other parts of the city. 929 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: I've covered Hollywood, Shadow Card, Chatsworth, I've covered a whole 930 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: host of different places. But I'm making my way to 931 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: certain other areas that doesn't get the love and attention 932 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: that we in house. Which is it yet? So here 933 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: I am out here to spreads and love and speaking 934 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: of love. This is what justice is love And actually 935 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: doctor King says this. So one of the things that 936 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: I noticed is that one of the difficulties I mentioned 937 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: during the COVID nineteen is when everything stood still, the 938 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: world stopped and shut down on house. People were unable 939 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: to charge their phones as well as the other amenities 940 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: like bathroom usage or usually bought showers and here we 941 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: have out of this need. What not the city doing this, 942 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: but this is volunteers and activists that have joined in 943 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: and pulled their resources together to create a solution. And 944 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: this is called how without fer do We have some 945 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: of the activists here, We'll have a conversation with them 946 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: and ask them what prompted them to come out here 947 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: to do this without fervid dud. Let's introduce ourselves. Hi, 948 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm Hillary Barker. W Hi. I am Matt Zorrow. I 949 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: love to live here in Hawthorne. My name is Maggie Clark. 950 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: I also live here in Hawthorne. Maggie, I'll start with you. 951 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: So what got you involved into looking for sociuggestions and 952 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: giving a flying group for our house community. Wow? That 953 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: is such a big question. I think a lot of 954 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: things probably kind of contributed. But one big thing for 955 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: me is I'm a librarian and I work now at 956 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: a university here in the South Bay. But my first 957 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 1: jobs in libraries were all of public libraries, and and 958 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously public libraries provide a lot of services 959 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: for unhoused folks, and I got to know a lot 960 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: of people through that and kind of get I think 961 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a little taste of sort 962 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: of some of their concerns and their struggles and the 963 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: things that were were difficult for them. I also got 964 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: to experience so much just violent discrimination that they experienced 965 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: from other library patrons, from library administration sometimes, and just 966 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: generally from the community. Like I think a lot of 967 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: that sort of anti homeless rhetoric would kind of fall 968 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: on libraries and librarians, even from Lake City councils and stuff. 969 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: And it was like a constant fight to explain why 970 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: we were providing services to people who were unhoused, which 971 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: was really disturbing obviously. And yeah, I think that's probably 972 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: specific specifically relate a ton House folks. That was kind 973 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 1: of what initially got me into it, and I just 974 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: sort of have been interested in larger social justice issues 975 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: for a while, and I started working with street Watch 976 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: maybe like a year and a half ago, but our 977 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: South Bay local we've just formed in the last couple 978 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: of months, so that's been really exciting. I think it's exciting, 979 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: and I thank you for stepping up and reaching a 980 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: corner that Nan House probably could not ever articulate as 981 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: eloquickly as you are able to be in a library, 982 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: you're able to show that there is humanity is possible. 983 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: Let's get to matt Man. Tell us how did you 984 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: what was your AHA moment or what was your moments 985 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: start to become involved in this dis community. Yeah, So 986 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: I I went to seminary and while I was there, 987 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: we have to do like we have to go and 988 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: work at different places, and I did some. I did 989 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: my program in the Tenderloin, so a lot of street 990 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: ministries out there, and then I did my work study 991 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: at San Francisco State University campus ministries there and we 992 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: did a lot of street ministries in the city as well. 993 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: So that was my sort of first taste of like, oh, 994 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: this is a problem and there's like ways you can 995 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: actually help as as a person. And then you know, 996 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: just living in La the last you know, I grew 997 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: up here. I know it's getting worse, Like you don't 998 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: have to tell me. I can see it with my eyes. 999 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: So I was really concerned about it and ask you 1000 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: a question, Mike. I don't mean to cut you off there. 1001 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Let'sten ask what if you here because people say that 1002 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 1: me and the n House don't want help or they're resistant, 1003 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and they are drug addict, or they're crazy, or they're 1004 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: they have all but the harmful stereotypes. And you said, 1005 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: you're looking at it and it's getting and it'sploding. What 1006 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: would you say to you one of the Nimbi nos 1007 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 1: and on Nimbi Nancy that has those kind of ideas, 1008 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I would tell them to get out. And I actually 1009 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: talk to the folks who are unhoused because like you 1010 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: learn real quick that like everybody's got a story and 1011 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: you don't. You know, I'm surprised how many of these 1012 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: folks out here got on the streets because of their divorce. 1013 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: And I went through a divorce, so like I know 1014 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: that pain and it was like one of those things 1015 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: like I could bond with and like there's a party 1016 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: brain that turns from from charity or like abstract helping humans, 1017 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: so like, oh no, I'm helping Chris, I'm helping Bucky. 1018 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: And when that happened, like my relationship to the to 1019 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: the work really changed. But I would tell them that, 1020 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, on house folks are just like everyone else 1021 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 1: in the sense that like, yeah, sometimes they do have problems, 1022 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, like everyone I know at your church or 1023 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: whatever job I've been to, there are people there who 1024 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: have mental illness issues, and that's that's not a bad thing, 1025 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: that is you know, that's just being life. You know. 1026 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: I've met a lot of alcoholics in my life, not unhoused, 1027 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: who are working, and we don't say all their alcoholism 1028 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: caused their employment, you know, like that's true. So I 1029 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 1: would say, people are people are people, and you have 1030 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: to take them where they're at and love them. And 1031 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: that's don't know if I'm rambling now, but that's understandable. 1032 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Let's pass the time. Let's have you introduce yourself. Yeah, 1033 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm Hillary. So I got into street Watch a few 1034 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: months ago. I grew up in la as well, and 1035 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: the homeless problem is growing and I've always been concerned 1036 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: about it. And like about four months ago, I started 1037 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 1: working downtown more regularly and close by skid Row and 1038 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: it's just right there. And and then I learned I 1039 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: forget how I learned about street Watch exactly, but when 1040 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: I started reading about what they were doing it that 1041 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: was sort of like a light bulb went off, like oh, 1042 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: du I can just go bring some water and just 1043 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,919 Speaker 1: basic things like humanity. And it was such a moment 1044 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: for me. I was like why why am I not 1045 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: doing this? And so that's when I got involved, and 1046 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm really happy I did. Now explained to me the 1047 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: concept of power up for people that understands that are 1048 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: due to the situation because they have may I not 1049 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 1: have heard of it, I know of it. I know 1050 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: that it requires some kind of organization with charging. So 1051 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 1: let's start from there. Yeah, so we bring out a 1052 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: generator and power strips and cables and chargers and a 1053 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 1: table and a tent and some food and some waters, 1054 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: and we just set it up and allow people to 1055 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: come by and charge their devices and grab some food 1056 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: and water and even have a conversation. What were the 1057 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: obstacles to creating this and how often you guys do this? 1058 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: We've been doing it about once week. There aren't as 1059 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: many obstacles as you might think, Like I think, if 1060 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: you have three or four people and five hundred dollars, 1061 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: you could probably start a power up table. So, uh, 1062 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: there is the initial cost, and you have to have 1063 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: electricity to charge the unit, so if you know, you 1064 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 1: have to have access to that. But other than that, 1065 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: if you have some friends and you have the heart 1066 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: for it, you can get out here and do a 1067 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: power up tap for yourself. I have a question I'm 1068 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: going to ask you, is that what if because this 1069 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: area here is some respect is kind of off the 1070 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: beaten path. Now, let's say, because they have a power 1071 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: up here at Eco Park in MacArthur Park, another part 1072 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: in LA they met with some police and nimby resistance. 1073 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Police harassed the and how people people harassed the people 1074 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 1: at a work. I think they put it in the 1075 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: ticket tim for having this stuff and things like that. 1076 01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: So what happened do you guys experiences or do and 1077 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: if it happens, what kind of creative solutions can't we 1078 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: do to meet the need where the city and the 1079 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: police are not being his need. That's such a good question. 1080 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: It's weird because we are you know, I don't know 1081 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: if podcast listeners will we really are off the beat truck. 1082 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: We're like in the back of a parking lot next 1083 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: to like these railroad tracks, which is not uncommon in 1084 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 1: the South Bay because a lot of our city governments 1085 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: have been really really aggressive about evicting on house people 1086 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 1: from anywhere where people can see them, really like parks, sidewalks, 1087 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: stuff like that. We have a lot of nimbiism in 1088 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: this area. So a lot of our unhoused folks have 1089 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: been kind of pushed into these really inaccessible or sort 1090 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 1: of more off the beaten path areas, but we still experience, 1091 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: well they experience a lot of harassment from law enforcement 1092 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: back here. I think in the last since we've been 1093 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: doing this, they've been They've threatened to sweep this encampment 1094 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: what like five times, like they literally just did it today. 1095 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 1: And then the ridiculous thing is they never do it, 1096 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: but like once a week someone from Hawthorn PD or 1097 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: LA Sheriffs shows up and says, if you guys don't leave, 1098 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna come sweep you tomorrow. And then they don't come, 1099 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and it's incredibly frustrating and it has a huge psychological 1100 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: call because you know, but I have to oh, yeah, no, no, 1101 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: because because I experienced that kind of crap, because I 1102 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 1: have I know when they do that down in LA 1103 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: or in where the area that I'm in, they it's 1104 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: usually and I don't want to say this on I 1105 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: don't want to curse, but they they have one person 1106 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 1: that usually is the butthole of the person that usually 1107 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: they always comes out and causes problems. Is that the 1108 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: same thing that comes on out of here too that 1109 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: did you have that kind of thing or do they 1110 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: have new rotating offices? I feel like I don't know, 1111 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 1: Maybe you would be better to answer, Eric might be 1112 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: the best to answer this. I feel like it's like 1113 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,759 Speaker 1: a and I'm going to try not to uh anger 1114 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 1: to overtake me, but I I feel you on that one. 1115 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: So let me, you know, reiterate my words. So that 1116 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: does they have a certain select police officer that comes 1117 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 1: out and targets the unhoused people or is it just 1118 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 1: a random group of people decide to just come down 1119 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 1: and borrow if you stated they stated that you guys 1120 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 1: face this harassment today. So what's going on? So by 1121 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 1: the day to day basis, we have some we have 1122 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 1: a lot of sheriffs and a lot of heath EPD 1123 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: coming here and seeing that people are complaining, Now they 1124 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 1: don't They never stay right and they can't stay who 1125 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: who's complaining? First it said cost go, So nobody goes 1126 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: to Costco anymore. Now they're saying that the back ladder 1127 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 1: is ano, they're saying that the storage unit is so 1128 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: they never they come and it's like they have to 1129 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 1: feel they won't. Yeah, they're manipulating their fourth here whatsoever. 1130 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,559 Speaker 1: We are out the poony somewhere damn where. So that's 1131 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. And if you see, we're really discreet, you 1132 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 1: can't really lets you really walk over here look and 1133 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 1: find you guys. The blue tar might be a little 1134 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 1: bit like out there, but behind that, you don't know 1135 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: anybody's out there with the tar. But still here when 1136 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, you're here's a training track, their 1137 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: fences all around there, there's no way that people I 1138 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: don't see any y'all gotta be nosy comic with their 1139 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: shopping car rolling down the street to a train to 1140 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: catch a train. So how ridiculous is that kind of 1141 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 1: thing that's nimbiasm does. That's that's why I have to 1142 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 1: kind of calm myself down. But that's just this is what. Yeah, 1143 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I had a flashback, but this is what, uh that 1144 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 1: I I understand? So how long have you been out here? 1145 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: I've been out here for like seven months? How did 1146 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: you become an ouse? I had an apartment and it 1147 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't work out with people that you live with, you 1148 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 1: know how that goes, And they they had a place 1149 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: to go, and we were not prepared for it because 1150 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 1: we're basically playing the majority of the rent, so we 1151 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: didn't have any like extra to save up for another 1152 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 1: dumb payment on apartment, you know, and we want to 1153 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,560 Speaker 1: yeah California in any other area, so please understand, you know. 1154 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: And it wasn't tax season yet, you know what I mean. 1155 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: So we just put everything in the car and got 1156 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: a storage in it, put all our stuff in there, 1157 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: and we just kind of like motelter for a little bit. 1158 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 1: And then it got to a point where like one 1159 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day sometimes, so we just kind of 1160 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 1: post up a tent with one of my with the 1161 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 1: provos over here, and it just you know, we just 1162 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 1: started saving U mour money here. I think it's a 1163 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 1: better way to do it. You know. You don't all 1164 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: have to worry about his food and go to a 1165 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 1: gym or something like that, you know, and you just 1166 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 1: handle what you gotta handle, you know. So you know, 1167 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: and you have a fortunate, fortunate ability because you have 1168 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: youth on your side. Whereas for people that I like, 1169 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,759 Speaker 1: uh that maybe I won't say, let's just say season 1170 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: or age season. I don't want to call myself old 1171 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 1: uh age season that we you know, it's not as used. 1172 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: It's not easily to bounce back if you have healthy 1173 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 1: challenges and things like that. But you may may and 1174 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: may not have. So did you find here but personally 1175 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 1: then somewhere Let's say, for example, skid rolled. Some of 1176 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: my homegirls are from Hanthorne, and I just like looked 1177 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 1: around and heard that one of my friend Lucy's out here. 1178 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 1: So I asked her if it was okay to put 1179 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 1: a tenter her and she said, it's cool, We're more 1180 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: to welcome, and that kind of like gave us let's, 1181 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's stress to worry about for a 1182 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, what's the difficulty of living out here? 1183 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: And this is a different life to live in here 1184 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 1: than where I lived. I lived out in Chinatown in 1185 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the city in a park at night, and and this 1186 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: is a little bit different because one the foot traffic 1187 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: was a lot, the police presence was a lot, I 1188 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 1: mean they were constantly there. And then there is also 1189 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,560 Speaker 1: private security and they're the nimbies, so and which is 1190 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 1: you We got that in common, but this is a 1191 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: little bit more outside here. How how is it to 1192 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: live out here? What's the challenge is here? Over here? 1193 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that tend to be not pretend, 1194 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 1: but they they have a place to live, and they 1195 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 1: come and play homeless and try to like bring the 1196 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: heat from the police over here. So some people don't 1197 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: live over here, man, They crement crimes come over here 1198 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: to hide thinking that well I know her, so I'm 1199 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: gonna see if I can hide in her tent real quick. 1200 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: They don't know, and then we wind up getting you know, 1201 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 1: the all the outcome of it because we live here. 1202 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 1: So it affects us because there's a constant police looking 1203 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,639 Speaker 1: for somebody, and it wanted to being a problem because 1204 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of traffic because of that, you know, 1205 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 1: I see, So is there places for you to get 1206 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: food and showers and places like that here? Yeah? When 1207 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 1: the when some sheriffs, when the detectives come, not just 1208 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 1: a regular officer, but a detective comes. The detectives come 1209 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: to give us resource pamphlets to help us get into 1210 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: like some type of a source, and they try to 1211 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 1: like give us the best advice they can. They've never 1212 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: arrested us or put us a handcuffs and searched us. 1213 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: It's just the constant harassment, like as if we're a nuisance, 1214 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: and it's like we're very discreet. All of us are 1215 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: very discreet. If you if somebody's not here that we know, 1216 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: we won't even we pretend that we're not here. We 1217 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: literally will like look like we're out. We wall tear 1218 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 1: our shits down, and we'll leave someone and we'll come 1219 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: back later when they're all gone. So we're we are 1220 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: very discreet. You know, they're it's like they're almost harassing us, 1221 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: and they're they're they're bullying us because we're not doing 1222 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 1: anything to them. They're trying to like almost like antagonize us. 1223 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: Yes too, because I noticed one thing. It's a common feature. 1224 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,679 Speaker 1: But Christy was telling me about over at the Apple 1225 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Park and other areas, and it's the fact that they 1226 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 1: have a constant recipe I'm trying to provoke me on 1227 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: how sports so they can arrest that. That seems to 1228 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,760 Speaker 1: be the common they w do concept harassment. They know 1229 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: that it's gonna irritate you. But as soon as you 1230 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 1: foie them any kind of voice, any disapproval or outrage, 1231 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 1: then here comes and particularly like what I had, like 1232 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: thirteen cops throwing me out in the ring. So this 1233 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: is the common thing. So, what is the way that 1234 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: we can get people to help give a system to 1235 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 1: help you get more people to help you catch you 1236 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 1: on your feet. I don't know how to answer that. 1237 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: How can we help you get what's the first step 1238 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 1: and for reaching reaching you to get maybe a place 1239 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: to stay, but that's safer away from police harassment and 1240 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: the house key source I've been hearing about. You know, 1241 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 1: homes not not handcuffs. House key is not handcuffs. Yes, 1242 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: that's an excellent solution. I think that's why do you 1243 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 1: think that this is such a stumbling block for the 1244 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,680 Speaker 1: city to take a whole or joined forces with. I 1245 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 1: feel like Hawthorne, the Hawthorne area specifically, the Hawthorn area 1246 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: specifically is very like they're anti homeless people because a 1247 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 1: big percentage of the city population are on house So 1248 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,680 Speaker 1: I feel like they don't want to put people in 1249 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: housing like that because there's so I can they can 1250 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: answer that, But I'm just speaking on what I've I've 1251 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,679 Speaker 1: witnessed myself. I think I feel like the the city 1252 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 1: does really care about the homeless people. They don't really 1253 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 1: want to put emphasis on us. They want to help 1254 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 1: us out. It's a consistent narrative about the problems on 1255 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: how people that they've never met, and it's always amplified 1256 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 1: or exaggerated to a point to make it sound like 1257 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 1: that they are a problem to the community. And what 1258 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 1: we found is, like a lot of times it has 1259 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: is deeply rooted into the gentrification and capitalism. And so 1260 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 1: we're going to ask a little bit more questions. What 1261 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 1: is your perspective about this area here, what do you 1262 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: feel that's the energy that goes on, and why that 1263 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: they are against the in house community here. Yeah, I 1264 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: think there's a couple of reasons. I think. I think 1265 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 1: capitalism does give the homeowners around here a real incentive, 1266 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 1: or at least a perceived incentive to worry about their 1267 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:45,799 Speaker 1: property values. So they paid probably somewhere around a million 1268 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 1: dollars for their houses back in the nineties. Now they're 1269 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 1: worth two million, and they need you know, that's their wealth, 1270 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: that's what they're passing on, and so they do a 1271 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,439 Speaker 1: lot to protect that wealth and to them. You know, 1272 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: the South Bay has a really long history of things 1273 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: like redlining, Homo associations making so people can't sell to 1274 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: African Americans or or or you know, other races too. Uh, people. 1275 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to introdect. Now, many people didn't know 1276 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 1: that they were doing that very same things that cold 1277 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: out in your Highland park in his home, they had 1278 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 1: a claw that king or that clause against renting out 1279 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 1: to people of black people. And this Akron is very 1280 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 1: very much one of the reasons why I wanted to 1281 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,600 Speaker 1: exploit this issue police. Yeah. So, I mean all of 1282 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 1: the beach cities have a real long history. You know, 1283 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 1: I grew up in Manhattan Beach. We have Bruce's Beach. 1284 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know the story behind Bruce's Beach. Uh. Yeah, so, Uh, 1285 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: there's a beach community that was African American community, Uh, 1286 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 1: very middle class or or you know, actually pretty wealthy 1287 01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: community there. Uh. And the KKK drove them out, burnt 1288 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: down there there. The resort over there in the city 1289 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 1: built a park there and kicked all of the black 1290 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: people out of Manhattan Beach. Uh. And so you know, 1291 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 1: my parents grew up here too, they know. You know, 1292 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I heard all kinds of stories about driving while black. 1293 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 1: And and you know, if if you're out past past 1294 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: sundown and Elsa Gundo, you're getting pulled over and you're 1295 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,600 Speaker 1: getting taken to the edge of town. You know, it's 1296 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 1: a it's a real history that we we like, I'm 1297 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 1: not proud of that history, uh, but we need to 1298 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: talk about it, you know, because you know, I do 1299 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: think it feeds into the demonization of the of the homeless. 1300 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 1: And it's all all comes from sort of the same 1301 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: same source, which is, uh, we want to keep our 1302 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,600 Speaker 1: property values high, and we'll do we'll be racist, will be, 1303 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 1: we'll be we'll do whatever we can to to to 1304 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: keep to keep our corporate you know. And that's what 1305 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 1: capitalism does to us. That's you know, I agree too, 1306 01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: because like I always have to have a villain in 1307 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 1: this story, in this fairy tale, which is what exactly 1308 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 1: it is. It has to have the fairy tale of 1309 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 1: the hero that's dressed in white and the villain that's 1310 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 1: dressed in black will have black skin or brown skin 1311 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 1: or some other kind of identifying notion to justify the 1312 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: othering and the criminalization that usually ensues or murders. And 1313 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, so with all that said, do you think 1314 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 1: with all of the protests and things going on, does 1315 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 1: it helped open up a conversation with people to understand 1316 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 1: about how community your w Yeah, I think so. I 1317 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 1: think I think that at the very least, people are 1318 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: starting to see, you know, I think that's why it's 1319 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 1: so important to have images, and people are starting to 1320 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 1: see the truth about how police interact. You know, if 1321 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,759 Speaker 1: you would have told somebody, you know, a police officer 1322 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,880 Speaker 1: stole a homeless person's bike, you know, I think five 1323 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 1: years ago they would be less willing to believe you 1324 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: than they are today. So I do think that the 1325 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,640 Speaker 1: protests and sort of the spotlight that's been shining on 1326 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: how our police state, you know, how the police function 1327 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: in our police state, and uh yeah, I think it 1328 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 1: has made a difference. So I'm a big supporter of 1329 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 1: Black Lives matter. Uh you know, street Watch considers them 1330 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: allies and we march with them. We do our best 1331 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 1: here in South Bay. You know when when kings Kizi 1332 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 1: Dejon Kinzi, you know they put the call out that 1333 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 1: night we had I was so proud of my team. 1334 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,680 Speaker 1: We had we had like eight people out there from 1335 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 1: street Watch LA South Bay showing up and uh yeah, 1336 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 1: being good allies. Well that's what we need. We need 1337 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 1: everyone our hands on deck in order for us to 1338 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:50,799 Speaker 1: finally dismantle on white supremacy. And anton On how cinnament. 1339 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 1: We are looking for you that are listed to join 1340 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 1: us and help us beat us in the light of 1341 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: understanding and then such we could do something as make 1342 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: this place a better place to live. Out this meeting 1343 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 1: in house, I think you also listening again, maybe again 1344 01:22:07,040 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 1: men might listen. This is Seo Henderson from William House. 1345 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Uh So here we have a new resident and I 1346 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 1: want to introduce uh uh him. After our interview, he 1347 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: was listening in and he wanted to tell us history. 1348 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 1: So what's your d answer. I've been running around from UH. 1349 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I was first from UH Alabama, Birmingham, oh Steen Stephen 1350 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 1: Terrence Taylor. Okay, I'm also a kid like I have 1351 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 1: a kidd family and Alabama and my father in Cleveland, Ohio, 1352 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 1: and so I ran from Alabama Birmingham. I was given 1353 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,760 Speaker 1: a ticket by someone that I know and he paid 1354 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: for my ticket from another country and then he was 1355 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 1: brought here you know or whatever. He's a United States citizen. 1356 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 1: Why did you leave Alabama for my religion? God alone? Mmkay? Okay, 1357 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and uh I found out the truth and like the 1358 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 1: reason why Thomas Shefferson had a Quran so to speak. Kay, 1359 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 1: and he was the one of the forefounding fathers of 1360 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: this nation, and uh he built something called we the 1361 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: People that's also in the Quran. So I started finding 1362 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: out about all these truths. Then I found out that 1363 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: I was a messenger just to just to shutting it up. 1364 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: This is why you hear all these weird stuff sounds 1365 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 1: sometimes with your angels. They're not more than angels, okay, 1366 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: but there's a gift that is used behind it, that 1367 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: God gives. So the government, uh does know about this, 1368 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,680 Speaker 1: sorry to say, but they do know about it. The 1369 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 1: government has been protecting me in a way I can't 1370 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,439 Speaker 1: I'm not at liberty to speak about right now. One 1371 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: of the questions that I have, but I have Why 1372 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 1: am I treated this way? Is what I wanna know? 1373 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Why am I running around all the time tryna get 1374 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: back to my family? I said, well, can I get 1375 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 1: back home? I'm tryna get back home my family. They 1376 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: contacted my family, you know what I mean. My my 1377 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 1: uncle Rickett n he knows and they Ricky Kidd he 1378 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,640 Speaker 1: knows who I am. And he's African American. And I 1379 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 1: have Masons in my family. Okay, So what I don't 1380 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: know too much about the masons in my family, but 1381 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: I do know I have them. So it's a whole 1382 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,760 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff going on. It's not a conspiracy to 1383 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 1: kill me or anything, but it's speacause of who I am. Well, 1384 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 1: how long have you been here me? I've just been 1385 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: here all day. You just got here, Yeah, I just 1386 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: I've been traveling on the bus and I've been trying 1387 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 1: every way to get home. So if you know anyone 1388 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: that can purchase me a Greyhound ticket or anything to 1389 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 1: get home, then that would be better. Or a phone 1390 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 1: is really what I need so I can record. This 1391 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 1: is one of the things about finding a way up 1392 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: to helping the house community, is that what's the best 1393 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 1: way to help you. So you're looking for a bus 1394 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: to get it back off as you're right, or a phone? Right, Well, man, 1395 01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 1: I'll stay here and just watch the so well, you know, 1396 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,599 Speaker 1: thank you for telling us this your story. Like I said, 1397 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,759 Speaker 1: we can, you know, give it out to the public 1398 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: and maybe they can. Someone can reach reach out to 1399 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 1: you here in the eco park because this is the 1400 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,640 Speaker 1: commonplace and your stuff is protected. Your camera, you you 1401 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 1: you and you you're protected. Thank you very much. This 1402 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 1: is still Henderson from Weedy on House and I thank 1403 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 1: you for your time, and I thank you all for 1404 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 1: listening and maybe again meet in the light of understanding you. 1405 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: I took my time waiting for the right inspiration to 1406 01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:01,760 Speaker 1: conclude this episode. In the course of this episode, a 1407 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,720 Speaker 1: lot of things have happened that has moved in a 1408 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: breakneck pace. The city is moving faster to criminalize unhoused 1409 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 1: under the bridges due to the Judge Carter's rule. The 1410 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: city council has approved again a Business Improvement District in 1411 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,519 Speaker 1: Chinatown to criminalize the Young House, and all through the 1412 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: city there's meetings and nimbies. As a matter of fact, 1413 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,759 Speaker 1: across the country there has been retaliation against a vulnerable 1414 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: population using the same stereotypes that has been used here 1415 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 1: against many of the young housed, quality of life, safety 1416 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 1: of people, children, and drug needles. Through the course of that, 1417 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 1: also there has been some phenomenal things, some amazing things. 1418 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Weed The Young House has opened the door for conversation 1419 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and people have responded favorably to me, and it surprises me. 1420 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 1: I do with you and House completely alone. I've always 1421 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,559 Speaker 1: had some people that met me where I was, which 1422 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 1: is why I've been inspired to do the same. When 1423 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I interviewed the young House and figure the solutions. It 1424 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,760 Speaker 1: should be the same. We should meet people where they 1425 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 1: are and not everyone is going to be perfect. This 1426 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 1: obsession that they have to have perfection in order for 1427 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 1: you to receive help or the conditions is an elusive dream. 1428 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 1: This time, I wanted a way to thank my video editor, 1429 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,479 Speaker 1: Carlos Nietto Third. I also wanted to thank my audio editor, 1430 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Carla Green, and my other associate editor as well David Brown, 1431 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:47,439 Speaker 1: my cartoonist Katie Fishill, and I also many many people 1432 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that have came to me and came 1433 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,360 Speaker 1: along to offer behind the scenes help and have done 1434 01:28:55,360 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 1: a wonderful job, in particular Katown for all the Los 1435 01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 1: Angeles Community Action Network, Polo Pantry, and many others that 1436 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 1: stay in the background. And I wanted to take this 1437 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to let people know that I also do video 1438 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: podcasts of WEEDI in House as well, so in the 1439 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,719 Speaker 1: upcoming future you're going to see some of me highlighting 1440 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 1: some of these other first responders other than the ones 1441 01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,920 Speaker 1: that you all of the time see like medical personnel, 1442 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:31,800 Speaker 1: fire departments, and the police. Of course, these are the 1443 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 1: ones that are grassroots that don't get a dollar, don't 1444 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: make any money off of this, and they come out 1445 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:43,879 Speaker 1: and they rise to the occasion due to overwhelming public 1446 01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:48,400 Speaker 1: antipathy from the nimbies and then some support from people 1447 01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 1: that really get why we need to get together and 1448 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 1: band together to create a positive solution. And on that light, 1449 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 1: I hope the light shines a little bit more brighter too, 1450 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:05,519 Speaker 1: toward the light of understanding. Thank you for listening. I 1451 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 1: think he's sacking and so how badly