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Speaker 3: All right, Happy Wednesday, everybody. Emily, how you doing, do Grant?

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Speaker 4: We have a big show, We have multiple guests, and

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Speaker 4: we're taking a weekend show today as well that people

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Speaker 4: should definitely make sure to tune in for.

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Speaker 3: That'll be a good one, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Last week, Chrystal Sager had Ken Vogelan to talk about

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Speaker 5: his new book, Devil's Bargain. Oh No, Devil's Advocates, Yes,

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Speaker 5: Devil's Advocates. It's about representing the worst people in the world,

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Speaker 5: and they told everybody to buy copies of it not

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Speaker 5: enough if.

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Speaker 3: You did, so we're having him back on.

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Speaker 5: Well the punt will keep having him on until you

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Speaker 5: send this book to number one. Yes, Yeah, because we

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Speaker 5: rely on a lot of Ken Vogel's reporting on corruption

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Speaker 5: in DC and around the world, so I want to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's had a really interesting career, which is

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Speaker 4: what we want to talk to him about today and

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Speaker 4: get into the entire shirt question of lobbying here in

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Speaker 4: DC and how he covers it.

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Speaker 6: So hope everyone tunes in for that.

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Speaker 4: But Ryan, we'll be talking about pretty big news yesterday

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Speaker 4: out of Israel. Jd Vance has some comments about what

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Speaker 4: the future of this peace plan actually may materialize.

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Speaker 6: To look like.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump could be paid two hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 4: dollars by his own Department of Justice.

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Speaker 6: Will break down why.

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Speaker 4: And the New York City mayoral election continues to titillate

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Speaker 4: every single day, So there's some ai we're going to

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Speaker 4: run for everyone, but also just updates in that race.

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Speaker 4: Graham Plattner, Big updates in the Grand Plattner race, I

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Speaker 4: mean big in air quotes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Graham Plattner, the Democratic Senate candidate in Maine. Now

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Speaker 3: that Janet Mills is in all of Schumer' z oppo

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about the latest that's that's been thrown at him,

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Speaker 5: and we'll also get a response from Representative Rocanna, who

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Speaker 5: has endorsed him and his standing standing by him. We're

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Speaker 5: also going to talk about Kareeine Jean Pierre and who

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Speaker 5: is making the rounds to promote her latest book and

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Speaker 5: keeps getting confronted with the question of why should anybody

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Speaker 5: listen anything.

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Speaker 3: You have to say? Yes, and her answers have not

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Speaker 3: been very persuasive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Well, and yet here we are listening to

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Speaker 4: what she has to say, but we're listening to tell

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Speaker 4: you that you shouldn't listen. So it's a little meta. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna be talking about energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be talking to CEO of Green Capital, John Powers.

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Speaker 3: We've been looking for to get some clean energy guys

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Speaker 3: on to talk about what the what the kind of

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Speaker 3: wake of the Build Back Better and then also the

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Speaker 3: One Big Beautiful Bill, how that has changed, what it

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Speaker 4: And Ryan wandered in here this morning saying that he's

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Speaker 4: going to know the future president of Ireland. Like someone

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Irish presidential election is on Friday. And when

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Speaker 5: She had just launched her presidential campaign. She is now

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Speaker 5: So we're going to play a little bit of our

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Speaker 6: That's no surprise. Here's jd vance yesterday.

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Speaker 7: The President actually put out a truth this morning that

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Speaker 7: But I'm not going to do what the President of

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Speaker 7: very clear it's supported not just by Israel but by

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Speaker 6: So Advance is in Israel.

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Speaker 4: If you're listening to this not watching it, you would

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Speaker 4: have seen Jared Kushner flanking jd Vance. Not really a surprise,

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Speaker 4: but Vance made some additional comments relevant to the Kushner question.

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Speaker 6: Let's roll a two.

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Speaker 7: Well, Jared's the investor here. I'm not going to give

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Speaker 7: you a percentage, but look what we've seen the past

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Speaker 3: The ceasefire is going to hold.

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Speaker 7: And if we get from where we were a week

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Speaker 8: No reconstruction a no reconstruction funds will be going into

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Speaker 3: So that needs to happen.

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Speaker 8: There are considerations being happening now in the area that

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Speaker 8: to give the Balistinians living in Gaza a place to go,

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Speaker 8: that's one of the many things being considered.

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Speaker 4: And so that last clip was actually of Jared Kushner himself,

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Speaker 6: The question about it.

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Speaker 4: His firm, Affinity Partners, has investment from the Saudi Royal Fund.

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Speaker 3: And let's put investment in quotes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, investment, investment Katari.

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Speaker 5: It's an investments, just not necessarily looking for percentage gains

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 4: So Ryan with JD vance Jared Kushner in Israel right now.

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Speaker 4: Jady Vans is the one who invokes the term optimism.

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Speaker 4: So if someone was looking for this peace deal to hold,

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Speaker 4: does the last twenty four hours leave them optimistic?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: And you can you can gauge that by the Israeli reaction,

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Speaker 5: given any patience. He was pressed repeatedly by Israeli reporters

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Speaker 5: will you put a timeline? You know, Hamas is already

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Speaker 3: They haven't yet. Shouldn't we be allowed to open the

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Speaker 5: And he says, no, I have some patience. He said, well,

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Speaker 5: And he kept and he kept coming back to them

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Speaker 5: and saying, look, you know a lot of these bodies

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Speaker 5: And so in Kushner and Vance were there. They asked,

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Speaker 5: a lot about this this deconfliction center where they have

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Speaker 5: been snipers and rp you know, terrorists jumped out of

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Speaker 5: attack and then somehow they snuck back into into Gaza

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Speaker 5: that discovered very quickly. No, that's not that's not happened.

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Speaker 5: And so that's and that's how the information then got relayed.

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Speaker 5: You'll hire up the chain of the Pentagon.

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Speaker 3: And so that that shows like the way that this

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Speaker 4: And clearly people in the administration believed or did not believe,

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Speaker 4: I should say, the Israeli story, because they were leaking

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Speaker 5: Right right, and net Yahoo on Sunday afternoon announced a complete,

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Speaker 5: he said, actually, we're going to resume allowing in life

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Speaker 4: So what is if we get and everyone's at peace,

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Speaker 3: Like Fischburger and his whole crew hate that it ended

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Speaker 3: You failed to kill them.

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Speaker 5: You killed Kilila High's son, killed four office workers, you

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Speaker 5: their grandkids. But that didn't like that? Did that didn't

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Speaker 5: that's it, Like he said, look, it's over, you're taking it.

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Speaker 5: Talked about how it was such a privilege for him

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Speaker 4: Well, And the reason that exchange between Zach Witcough was

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Speaker 6: That's what's happening right now.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, Jeremy.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday, I just described it as like basically putting a

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Speaker 5: And that doesn't mean that they won't let that attack

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy a little a little quick there.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I know you wanted to mention the Israeli rights

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Speaker 5: Of this, Ryan, Yeah, they've been talking about it as

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Speaker 5: But the eure Lapede types have been saying Yahoo has

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Speaker 5: In response to what they perceive as breakdowns of the

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Speaker 5: As Krishner was talking about that clip you watched, then

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Speaker 5: Yahoo absolutely does not want that to happen. But Nenya

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Speaker 5: And then I was like, I don't want them.

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Speaker 3: Trump's going to blow his top. What do you mean

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Speaker 3: you don't want them? Are you always so negative. I'm

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Speaker 5: But they don't want more Muslim people, especially with guns

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Speaker 6: Comes early days, early days.

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Speaker 4: Now as the administration tries to augment this very gradual

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what Trump needs is small powers that you can

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Speaker 5: the short term. What the terms are Witkoff is now

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Speaker 5: That's something that they can bite off. Maybe we'll see this,

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Speaker 5: that's been a long simmering conflict.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 5: But Russia, like Trump can't just tell Putin what to do.

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Speaker 5: And Trump thought he and Putin were on the same page.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we've seen it play out in public

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Speaker 6: But this is actually.

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Speaker 4: Trump's bizarre, bizarrely transparent negotiating process playing out where it's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we know exactly what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: He just can't believe that Putin won't take yes for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going so well for Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so maybe he can reach peace with Venezuela. Like

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Speaker 3: He just less likely, just like not. But all he

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Speaker 6: Even less likely.

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Speaker 4: We'll see already got the ships down there, what do

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Speaker 4: Is Donald Trump set to get two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: million dollars in what would essentially be restitution payments from

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Speaker 4: his own department of Justice if he asked Trump, he says,

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Speaker 4: actually that it's it's the just outcome here.

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Speaker 6: So let's go ahead and roll some of Donald Trump's comments.

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Speaker 6: This is b one.

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Speaker 10: Who's what?

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Speaker 9: Are you asking the Justice Department to pay compensation for

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Speaker 9: compensation federal investigations into you? Are you asking them to

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Speaker 9: pay compensation? And how much into me?

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Speaker 10: I don't get any compensation. I do it for nothing.

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Speaker 10: I gave up my salary into me.

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Speaker 6: No, it's going to be the Justice Department.

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Speaker 9: Are you asking them to pay you compensation for the

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Speaker 9: federal investigations that happened to you?

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Speaker 6: And how much are you ask love?

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Speaker 11: I guess they probably owe me a lot of money

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Speaker 11: for that.

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Speaker 10: But as far as all of the litigation and everything

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Speaker 10: that's good about, yeah, they probably owe me a lot

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Speaker 10: of money. But if I get money from our cut,

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Speaker 10: I'll do something nice with it, like give it to

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Speaker 10: charity or give it to the White House where we

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Speaker 10: restore the White House.

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Speaker 6: So that was Donald Trump's de Waally celebration. Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Reporters were asking him about a New York Times story

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Speaker 4: which we can put up on the screen, that reported

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Speaker 4: President Trump is demanding the Justice Department paying about two

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty million dollars in compensation for the federal

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Speaker 4: investigations into him, according to people familiar with the matter,

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Speaker 4: who added that any settlement might ultimately be a proved

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Speaker 4: by senior department officials who defended him or those in

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Speaker 4: his orbit. The Time supports the situation is no parallel

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Speaker 4: in American history, as mister Trump, a presidential candidate, was

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Speaker 4: pursued by federal law enforcement and eventually won the election,

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Speaker 4: taking over the very government that must now review his claims.

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Speaker 4: It is also the starkest example yet of potential ethical

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Speaker 4: conflicts created by installing the president's.

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Speaker 6: Former lawyers atop the Justice Department.

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Speaker 4: Now, something that's getting lost in a lot of this,

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Speaker 4: because it's a few paragraphs down in the Time story

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Speaker 4: is quote Mister Trump's submitted complaints through an administrative claim

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Speaker 4: process that often is the precursor to lawsuits.

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Speaker 6: The first claim was.

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Speaker 4: Lodged in late twenty twenty three, seeks damages for a

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Speaker 4: number of purported violations of his rights, including the FBI

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Speaker 4: and Special Council investigation into Russian election tampering and possible

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Speaker 4: connections to the twenty sixteen campaign. That's according again to

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Speaker 4: people familiar with the matter, and the second complaint was

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Speaker 4: fired filed before the election last year, in the summer

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four, and accuses the FBI of violating

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Speaker 4: quote mister Trump's privacy by searching mar A Lago, his club,

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Speaker 4: and residents in Florida in twenty twenty two for classified documents.

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Speaker 4: It also accuses the Justice Department of malicious prosecution and

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Speaker 4: charging him with mishandling sensitive records after he left office,

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Speaker 4: and Sarah Bedford over at the Washington Examiner points out

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Speaker 4: again both of those claims for damages were filed before

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Speaker 4: he became president, again when he was in the middle

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Speaker 4: of spending, as she says, millions of dollars defending himself

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Speaker 4: against politicized cases that ultimately got thrown out. She also

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Speaker 4: pointed to the DOJ paying out settlements and partisan cases.

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Speaker 4: The FBI agent Peter Struck and Lisa Page, as you

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Speaker 4: may remember, got two million dollars over they're firing while

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Speaker 4: they were texting about going after Trump with the FBI.

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Speaker 4: So it's not entirely without precedent, but Ryan, when your

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Speaker 4: own DOJ is then in the position to approve basically

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Speaker 4: the restitution claims almost impossible to disentangle the personal h

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Speaker 4: what is even the word for the conflicts? I guess

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Speaker 4: this conflict seems like an uncertatement.

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Speaker 5: The what's even the conflict? He wants the money and

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Speaker 5: he's going to take it. The conflict, I guess is

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Speaker 5: with the taxpayer who he's going to take it from.

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Speaker 5: But why are you all complaining? This is one dollar

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Speaker 5: from every adult.

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Speaker 6: In America, one dollar to the Trump Defense Fund.

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Speaker 5: It's one dollar. You don't have one dollar for our

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Speaker 5: president for what you did to him. One dollar I

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Speaker 5: mean you and you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, two dollars from Ryan Groom.

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Speaker 5: If he could do that, he would definitely say, okay,

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Speaker 5: three dollars from every Democrat.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so he like, if you just got higher.

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Speaker 5: If you voted for Trump, you're still paying him a dollar. Yep,

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Speaker 5: because actually there's a little lesson that. So what are

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Speaker 5: you really complaining? Because I think the adult population in

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Speaker 5: the United States is about two fifty two hundred and

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Speaker 5: sixty million, and he's only asking for two hundred and

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Speaker 5: thirty million, so it's more like ninety five cents from

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Speaker 5: every American. Of course he should he should send every

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Speaker 5: we should get a photo of him and we can

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Speaker 5: put up like a save a president, like just for

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Speaker 5: one dollar.

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Speaker 3: It's like the sah, you can build this president a ballroom.

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Speaker 3: The ballroom will be beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's currently tearing down the East wing of the

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Speaker 5: White House, and he's he doesn't mind illegally moving money

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Speaker 5: like he does it all the time, moving it like

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Speaker 5: you cannot, as president just take from one congression appropriated

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Speaker 5: bucket and move it over to another. He does that

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Speaker 5: all the time. So why is he even going through

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Speaker 5: this whole rigmarole of he's going to take two hundred

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Speaker 5: and thirty million dollars from the Justice Department and then

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Speaker 5: he's going to hand it over here to his construction buddy,

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Speaker 5: he's building the ballroom. Just take the money, your president. Well,

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Speaker 5: you're stealing it from all over the place all the time.

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Speaker 4: His back and forth with reporters somewhat amusing because the

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Speaker 4: New York Times.

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Speaker 6: Report was from anonymous sources.

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Speaker 4: Trump just gets asked about it on camera and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they owe me right, Like this is like the way

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Speaker 4: the Times wrote this story is that this was like

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Speaker 4: a very a very high level piece of investigative journalism

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Speaker 4: and is very controversial, scandalous, and then Trump's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they owe me money. He gets asked by a reporter

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Speaker 4: and he's like, yes, pay me. I mean, they really

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Speaker 4: could have just called him. Probably they didn't even rely

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Speaker 4: on the anonymous sources. They could have used the biggest

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Speaker 4: source in the media.

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Speaker 3: I would suspect that he was one of the anonymous sources.

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Speaker 3: Not impossible, is Maggie on there, Uh well, good reporting

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Speaker 3: by The New York Times.

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Speaker 5: Utterly preposterous, utterly outrageous, Like there aren't enough words for

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Speaker 5: the idea that a guy who's made himself already a

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Speaker 5: billion dollars through his like crypto scams, he and his

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Speaker 5: he and his kids running these crypto scams where he's

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Speaker 5: getting all these people who want things from the American people.

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Speaker 5: So he thinks that because he's president, they want things

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Speaker 5: from him, so people should therefore legally be able to

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Speaker 5: bribe him, give him crypto, give him money. Because he

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Speaker 5: really believes he's like Napoleon, like he's the revolution, he's

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Speaker 5: the state. He really believes that, but he's not the

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Speaker 5: government is in the United States of America's supposed to

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Speaker 5: be a representative of the American people.

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Speaker 3: It's the American people's money. It's American people's government.

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Speaker 4: Remember when he posted the Napoleon quote, he who saves

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Speaker 4: his country violates no law.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, I'm paraphrasing.

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Speaker 3: Anyth Yeah, I think it was made up. Napoleon quote too, right.

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Speaker 6: It was apocryphal.

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Speaker 3: It might be. I don't know either way.

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Speaker 6: He boasted it.

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Speaker 3: I think it all capt Actually, of course yes he

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Speaker 3: did so.

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Speaker 4: Yes, these claims were filed before he was president. Probably

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Speaker 4: from Trump's perspective, it would make sense drop the claims.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't need two hundred and thirty million dollars from

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Speaker 4: the US government to go into construction.

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Speaker 6: He already has.

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Speaker 4: Millions and millions of dollars from the tech companies that

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Speaker 4: he just threw a dinner for. Not just tech companies,

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Speaker 4: but of these companies that are funding the White House

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Speaker 4: or innovations.

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Speaker 3: Who is doing this work?

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Speaker 5: You cannot get people to show up on job sites

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Speaker 5: in Washington, DC because of ice running around everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Who's doing this work? This is an interesting question.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 4: They also have said the Treasury employees, because this is

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Speaker 4: the East Wing, have to stop taking pictures of the construction.

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Speaker 4: Basically the only place you have a good view is

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Speaker 4: from Treasury. You really can't see it if you're I

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Speaker 4: mean press barely can see it. So I mean maybe

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Speaker 4: some people with like telephoto lenses are able to get pictures,

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Speaker 4: but it's really hard to see.

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Speaker 6: So no idea.

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Speaker 4: But on top of all of that, so basically he

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Speaker 4: has his net worth has ballooned because of crypto, or

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Speaker 4: the Trump family not worth as a balloon because of Crypto,

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Speaker 4: will certainly benefit him when he is out of office.

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Speaker 4: The two hundred and thirty million dollars in compensation from

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Speaker 4: taxpayers basically could just be dropped now that he is president.

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Speaker 4: These were claims that were filed before he was president

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Speaker 4: in damages he won, so he doesn't need the money.

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Speaker 4: Could just drop it and then have no significant conflict

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Speaker 4: of interest questions floating over the administration. But I feel

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Speaker 4: like maybe we're just beyondo that ran.

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Speaker 5: Right, Donald Trump, I will not take a salary because

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Speaker 5: I care so much about the American public. Keep this

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Speaker 5: four hundred thousand dollars, but I will take two hundred

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Speaker 5: and thirty million dollars from you two thirty.

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Speaker 4: Till two thirty. Well, part of this, it's more understandable.

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Speaker 4: I suppose as like a punishment and a disincentive for

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Speaker 4: further corruption if you aren't in the process of attempting

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Speaker 4: to remake reorganize the Department of Justice itself. So he

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Speaker 4: controls the Department of Justice right now, which is obviously

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Speaker 4: the predicate for this entire story. So if he's worried

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Speaker 4: about punishing the US government and creating a disincentive, which

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Speaker 4: by the way, was for the DJ acted horribly throughout

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Speaker 4: the Russia collusion investigationshment looks like Donald Trump getting re

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Speaker 4: elected and completely reorganizing and dismantling the DOJ. The two

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty million dollars in potential payments seems like,

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Speaker 4: you know, small potatoes compared to him reorganizing the FBI

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Speaker 4: and the DOJ completely on like as president. So it

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Speaker 4: seems like the thing to do would just be drop

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Speaker 4: the claims.

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Speaker 5: And he's also threatening, not threatned, threatening to use the

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Speaker 5: power and using the power of the government to go

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Speaker 5: after his his opposition.

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Speaker 3: You can put up B three and actually a good story.

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Speaker 5: In Barry Weiss's Free Press Inside the Trump Induced Chilling

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Speaker 5: Effect on Liberal Philanthropy by Gab Kaminski takes a look

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Speaker 5: at the what the what the effect already is of

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Speaker 5: Trump saying in the wake of Charlie Charlie Kirk's assassination

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Speaker 5: that he's going to go after all of the groups

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Speaker 5: that he blew nims for it and who he blames

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Speaker 5: for it is like liberal nonprofit organizations, which is to

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Speaker 5: me patently absurd. But setting that aside, he has threatened

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Speaker 5: to use the irs to go after his his opponents,

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Speaker 5: which is completely new. Like you had this like kind

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Speaker 5: of fake lowesst. Learner scandal fifteen years ago from the

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Speaker 5: Obama administration, where like the Republicans are like, oh, they're

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Speaker 5: going after conservative groups. They also went after like medical

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Speaker 5: marijuana groups, and they're.

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Speaker 6: Like, they went after more conservative groups than they did the.

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Speaker 5: Other Yeah, maybe more conservative groups, probably being shady about

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Speaker 5: their nonprofit status.

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Speaker 6: I mean from the medical marijuana groups.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were also being shady, so they went

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Speaker 3: after them too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, and now they don't go after anybody except

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Speaker 5: so that they had years of non enforcement. Now what

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Speaker 5: Trump is going to bring back is selective enforcement, and

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Speaker 5: the qualification will be do I perceive you to be

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Speaker 5: part of the broad opposition? Do you represent uh an

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Speaker 5: interest group that has something to do with somebody who

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Speaker 5: voted against me.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And so what Comminski was finding here, uh is that

668
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Speaker 5: it's already basically crippling liberal foundations because uh, it's making

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Speaker 5: making it very hard for them to raise money because

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Speaker 5: nobody wants to be, you know, have the you know,

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Speaker 5: to be under the under the watchful eye of the

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Speaker 5: I R S or the d o J. They're spending

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Speaker 5: the money that they do have on security and on

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Speaker 5: high powered lawyers to go through their books and and

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Speaker 5: and make sure that you know, they're completely buttoned up

676
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Speaker 5: because now they're they're all expecting that somebody's gonna be

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Speaker 5: looking through everything. And there are some cases, you know,

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Speaker 5: the Biden administration here actually deserves some blame because there

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Speaker 5: was this one case where Israel claimed that like these

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Speaker 5: five human rights groups in uh East Jerusalem or the

681
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Speaker 5: West Bank were uh, we're actually terrorist organisations. Europe demanded

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Speaker 5: all of the evidence for this is really handed over,

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Speaker 5: no evidence. In Europe was like, we're not we're not

684
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Speaker 5: counting this. This doesn't it doesn't work. Biden of course,

685
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Speaker 5: was like, oh, well, met yah who says these are terrorists,

686
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Speaker 5: they must be terrorists, and just accepted even though there

687
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Speaker 5: was reporting that the Biden mistician knew this was all

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Speaker 5: made up.

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Speaker 3: They just accepted it and didn't push back.

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Speaker 5: And so now the Trump administration is coming in and saying, ah,

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Speaker 5: this American nonprofit did you know has a fellowship program

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Speaker 5: with this Palestinian nonprofit? And Biden said that they were terrorists,

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Speaker 5: so therefore you're terrorists too.

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Speaker 3: It's like Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: Well, and it's great.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so this report will read a little bit

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Speaker 4: from it here. One head of a nonprofit told Gabe,

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Speaker 4: who's great reporter, we've had him on before, quote, everybody

699
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Speaker 4: is concerned across the board about being investigated. That person

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Speaker 4: oversees a nonprofit that has more than a billion dollars

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Speaker 4: and assets. Another told Gabe it is directly impacting the

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Speaker 4: ability of groups to raise money. There's a chilling effect

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Speaker 4: across the entire nonprofit sector. That's echoed actually by some

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Speaker 4: groups on the right. So in the report, loss In Bader,

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Speaker 4: the head of Donors Trust quote, one of the country's

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Speaker 4: most influential right leaning nonprofits, told me that he has

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Speaker 4: heard from many liberal foundations since he told the Free

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Speaker 4: pressent Lea it's September that the stream of retaliatory rhetoric

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Speaker 4: since Kirk's assassination has the potential weaponized philanthropy in a

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Speaker 4: way that is anathetical to philanthropic freedom. There's another there's

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Speaker 4: another Republican who was talking to Gabe about something similar

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Speaker 4: as well. So Philanthropy Roundtable actually is I would say

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Speaker 4: maybe right leaning quote under they say philanthropy is under attack,

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Speaker 4: and that they quote stand firmly on the side of

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Speaker 4: philanthropic freedom and defending the right of Americans to give,

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Speaker 4: how when and where they choose within the bounds of

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Speaker 4: the wall. Now, one interesting part of this, though, Ryan,

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Speaker 4: is it sort of reminds me of weaponized Farah enforcement,

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Speaker 4: so Foreign Agents Registration Act enforcement. Some of the quotes

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Speaker 4: in here are about nonprofits just like cleaning up their

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Speaker 4: activity and like hiring general counsels to make sure that

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Speaker 4: they're actually operating in compliance with nonprofit standards, because that.

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Speaker 3: Is a thing.

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Speaker 4: There are nonprofits that are just like widely out of

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Speaker 4: compliance and it's normalized with nonprofit standards and they get

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Speaker 4: all of the tax benefits of that. But interestingly, here

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Speaker 4: Gabe quotes Jason Smith, so Republican of Missouri, saying that

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Speaker 4: organizations who are influenced by our adversaries and who counter

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Speaker 4: to US national influence should not benefit from tax exempt status.

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Speaker 4: The days of turning a blind eye to bad actors

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Speaker 4: in the US nonprofit sector are over.

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Speaker 6: Jason Smith told Gabe, I'm reading.

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Speaker 4: That and thinking, I know he is implying what you

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Speaker 4: just described, Brian about potential like Quo Hamas connections, sounds

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Speaker 4: a whole lot like APEX could be in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Under a future democratic administration.

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Speaker 5: I guess, mom, Donnie can't be president since he wasn't

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Speaker 5: born here, But yeah, under a h I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I can't even think under President Platner. But see how

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Speaker 5: much that President Platner can say that that a Pack

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Speaker 5: is comrade Platter, yeah, support comrade Platter's supportive chairman Platner,

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Speaker 5: That a PACK is allied with an organization that is

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Speaker 5: the government of Israel, that is accused of war crimes

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Speaker 5: and crimes against humanity, humanity, and so therefore, yeah, it

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Speaker 5: should be itself dissolved. That's I can't imagine that a

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Speaker 5: world in which that actually happened.

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Speaker 4: Smith was very careful to use the word adversaries. Organizations

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Speaker 4: are influenced by our adversaries, but the law is really

749
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Speaker 4: not just adversaries, it's foreign control, and so it will

750
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Speaker 4: be like you can see how this is setting basically

751
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Speaker 4: doomsporal precedent, but we have yet to understand exactly how

752
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Speaker 4: they're going to implement this. There's obviously the MPSM seven

753
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Speaker 4: that Keen is reported on and talked about a lot

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Speaker 4: that you can understand how it already is having this

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Speaker 4: quote chilling effect that gave reports on. Now there are

756
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Speaker 4: and you and I would probably disagree on this. I

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Speaker 4: do think there is money that goes from groups like

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Speaker 4: TIDES to groups that do like bail funds for some

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Speaker 4: of these protests in Portland or it was in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 4: and I think there's there's probably reason to look into

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Speaker 4: whether they're going beyond just bail funds. I disagree on that,

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Speaker 4: like actually funding demonstrations that are organized for the purpose

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Speaker 4: of being like rabble rousing, breaking laws and the like.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, what most of these organizations in my experience

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Speaker 5: across the board, think that they are aligned with the

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Speaker 5: Democratic Party, like they're part of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 6: Orbit we're talking about TIDES and such.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and the groups that TIDES funds or

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Speaker 5: or passes money through to they're basically part of the

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Speaker 5: Democratic Party, and they all think that violent street demonstrations

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Speaker 5: hurt Democrats, Like that's it's that's a like antifi lefty.

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Speaker 3: Thing to want to you know, get kind of rowdy

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Speaker 3: in the street.

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Speaker 4: They've supported bail funds for like Antifa organizations and that

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Speaker 4: sort of well.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: Bail fund Bail funds for people who get arrested at

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Speaker 5: demonstrations are different.

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Speaker 6: Totally legitimate.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that there's I think there's actually probably and

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying actually that the federal government needs to

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Speaker 4: be a weaponized to go into it, but I think

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Speaker 4: that there's probably is some reason to suspect certain groups

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Speaker 4: that have gotten past money through pass through entities are

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Speaker 4: actually using that money not just for bail funds, but

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Speaker 4: for supporting the demonstrations themselves, not just coming in after

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Speaker 4: and bailing people out.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but yes, but demonstrations that's right there in

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Speaker 5: the First Amendment.

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Speaker 6: Demonstrations that they know are not demonstrations.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm that you think they're going to there's

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Speaker 3: opposed to.

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Speaker 4: Like like Portland, like black block Antifa type stuff.

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Speaker 5: I would highly doubt it those that's like fifty Portland Portlanders.

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Speaker 5: Like I mean, if you're in Portland, let us know.

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Speaker 5: But like that's like fifty not.

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Speaker 4: Just Portland, but in other parts like Seattle and the like.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to look for the who had some good

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Speaker 4: reporting on this. I just interviewed them, actually, but I'm

800
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Speaker 4: trying to remember where. Anyway, that's beside the point. The

801
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Speaker 4: bigger point is that the the why the larger effort here,

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Speaker 4: And this is what I should have started by saying,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's some like vast widespread conspiracy to

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Speaker 4: prop up using George Soros money, violent Antifa rioters.

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Speaker 6: I think that's the case. And I think what the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration is.

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Speaker 4: Doing is another example of obviously weaponizing the government in

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Speaker 4: a way that is going to be flipped around a

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Speaker 4: second there's a dem back in office. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: if it's happened to some degree before, it's going to

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Speaker 4: happen on a higher degree now into the future.

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Speaker 6: And something you said, uh, stuck with me a few

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Speaker 6: weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, it's that when you start having this Chilean effect

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Speaker 4: on people getting into power or people organizing whatever, it

816
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Speaker 4: is you just incentivize people having action in the or

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Speaker 4: exercising agency in the political process, and that's dangerous for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, it's like, I'll be careful what you wish for.

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Speaker 5: Because the galaxy brain argument would be that these liberal

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Speaker 5: foundations are actually taking like public anger and funneling it

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Speaker 5: into and shepherding it kind of into a democratic party

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Speaker 5: led political process where it is it is muffled and

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Speaker 5: muzzled and kind of just dispersed in a way that

824
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Speaker 5: doesn't actually then represent any threat to the system, and

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Speaker 5: that if you get rid of that, then the anger

826
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Speaker 5: has nowhere to go, and so the anger then just

827
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Speaker 5: bursts out wherever it bursts out, in different posopulous moments.

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Speaker 5: Because the first analysis that people will have when they

829
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Speaker 5: start learning about philanthropy is like, oh, how ironic it

830
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Speaker 5: is that the children and the grandchildren and the descendants

831
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Speaker 5: of the Carnegie and the Fords and all these childs

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Speaker 5: and the Soros is like all of these or the

833
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Speaker 5: night all of these like oligarchs and plutocrats from one

834
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Speaker 5: hundred fift years ago, their descendants are now working against

835
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Speaker 5: the plutocratic interest and working to uplift the working class

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Speaker 5: and the public, and then you're saying, after you've been

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Speaker 5: in for a while, you're like, oh wait, actually, actually.

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Speaker 3: It's what we think it is.

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Speaker 5: It is it is capital just you know, exploiting tax

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Speaker 5: policy in order to hoard wealth and using that wealth

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Speaker 5: to actually kind of muffle discontent with this, with the

842
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Speaker 5: contradictions and problems that the plutocrats created one hundred and

843
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Speaker 5: fifty years ago.

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Speaker 3: So go ahead and get rid of that and see

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Speaker 3: what happens.

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Speaker 5: Would be would be one would be the galaxy brain take.

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Speaker 6: Hmm, yeah, well, I mean nonprofit.

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Speaker 4: We should do a full segment on like nonprofit laws period,

849
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Speaker 4: like how they've just been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the shorter version of it, like it's it's actually

851
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Speaker 5: Soros and ties that are holding people back.

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Speaker 3: You think that they're coming for you. No, no, no, it's

853
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Speaker 3: the opposite.

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Speaker 4: Not yet, yeah, not yet. Yeah, well we'll see, we

855
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Speaker 4: will see. But it's uh of a good report, so

856
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Speaker 4: somebody to keep an eye on for sure. And by

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Speaker 4: the way, it's it's pretty interesting that in this climate

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Speaker 4: where criticism of Trump is like your ticket to ostracization

859
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Speaker 4: in the conservative movement, that you have donors, trust and

860
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Speaker 4: philanthropy round table saying anything because It's literally a climate

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Speaker 4: where a Trump is super sensitive to these loyalty litmus tests,

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Speaker 4: and b he's weaponizing the like it is weaponizing the

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Speaker 4: I R s and others to go look people's nonprofit statuses.

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Speaker 4: So that tells you how concerned people are about the

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Speaker 4: president that this could potentially set. And I think that

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Speaker 4: tells you how serious the president that's being set is.

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Speaker 4: So the fact that you have those groups talking about

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Speaker 4: it is significant in and of itself, even if you

869
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Speaker 4: don't buy it, and whatever you think there is bullshit.

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Speaker 4: It's a fairly bold thing to do in this environment

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Speaker 4: to even make those statements.

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Speaker 6: If you're donor strusts your clients to be around.

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Speaker 3: Tables, this is true. Let's move to the New York

874
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Speaker 3: City mayoral election.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it all kinds of good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump very frustrated that his man, Andrew Cuomo is

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Speaker 5: not catching fire as an independent candidate in the general election. Cuomo,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure becoming increasingly bitter at the Acmans and the

879
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Speaker 5: others in the world who insisted that he pursued this

880
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 5: humiliating general election race. But Trump doing everything you can

881
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Speaker 5: to come to his defense. Let's roll a little bit

882
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Speaker 5: of our good president here.

883
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Speaker 10: To explained there might be some dark, deep psychological reason

884
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Speaker 10: where they want to vote the opposite way. I don't

885
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Speaker 10: know what it is, but we have to win the

886
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Speaker 10: midterms otherwise all of the things that we've done, so

887
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 10: many of them are going to be taken away by

888
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 10: the radical left lunatics. I mean, we're going to end

889
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Speaker 10: up with a communist mayor in New York.

890
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Speaker 3: Can you believe it?

891
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Speaker 10: A communist? Remember I would always say we will not

892
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Speaker 10: have a socialist elected in our country. Remember I'd say

893
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Speaker 10: that all the time, and I was right. We skipped socialists.

894
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Speaker 10: We got a communist elective. So I didn't tell a lie.

895
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Speaker 10: I didn't tell a lie. I was right, We'll have

896
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Speaker 10: a communist, not a socialist.

897
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Speaker 3: Okay.

898
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Speaker 5: Anyway, So he also accused Mom Donnie of posing with

899
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Speaker 5: a terrorist. This this echoing what the New York Posts

900
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Speaker 5: and RNC has said that this is because he appeared

901
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Speaker 5: with any Mom New York City Saraj Wahaj, who the

902
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Speaker 5: right has been calling a quote unindicted co conspirator of

903
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Speaker 5: the ninety three World Trade.

904
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Speaker 6: Center bots technically not true, right right?

905
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Speaker 3: Which? Yeah, not true?

906
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Speaker 6: Foxing's had to issue a correction on its story.

907
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Speaker 3: But I see that the RNC is not corrected. It's

908
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Speaker 3: it's hit here.

909
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Speaker 5: So hopefully he sends them a little letter because like,

910
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Speaker 5: you can't do that. And I've seen like the Laura

911
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Speaker 5: Lumer types say that that, you know, this is somebody

912
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Speaker 5: that the NYPD considered to be a threat and had

913
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Speaker 5: under surveillance. It's like, bro, the NYPD had every mosque

914
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Speaker 5: in the city under surveillance. Like the fact that the

915
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Speaker 5: NYPD considers somebody to be suspicious who was Muslim in

916
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Speaker 5: New York City does not mean that there was actually

917
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Speaker 5: anything remotely wrong with him.

918
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Speaker 6: He was a character witness for the blind Chic.

919
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Speaker 3: Though, right because he was like, yeah, he was in the.

920
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Speaker 6: Whatever he had been organizing like New York City.

921
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Speaker 5: Yes, and he's said things about you know, women's rights

922
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Speaker 5: and stuff that people would generally agree with. He's also

923
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Speaker 5: has a huge base of support in New York City,

924
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Speaker 5: and that's why Eric Adams and Build a. Blasio peered

925
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Speaker 5: with him, went to him because they want to get

926
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Speaker 5: his supporters to vote for them. It was never the community, yeah,

927
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Speaker 5: and it was never it was never controversial until you know,

928
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Speaker 5: Mom Donnie showed up. Although I'm sure they was decided

929
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Speaker 5: to do something with the Blasio. If you go back Adams,

930
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Speaker 5: I'm sure he got a pass.

931
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Speaker 4: If if you go back and look, there's I mean,

932
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Speaker 4: he's he's been controversial. But and I maintained that if

933
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Speaker 4: a conservative was out there with someone who said the

934
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Speaker 4: things about gay people and women that he said.

935
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Speaker 6: It would have been a much bigger story.

936
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Speaker 3: All that is to say, what was it that Trump

937
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Speaker 3: had as his preacher, Like, not his preacher, but like

938
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Speaker 3: the guy it his inauguration. His inauguration was Page or

939
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Speaker 3: whatever his name John Paige.

940
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Speaker 4: Hay said crazy stuff obviously about but that's like.

941
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Speaker 3: The guy doing the inaugural Trump.

942
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't remember whether it was Haggy, but

943
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Speaker 4: that would obviously. Trump is a slightly different story because

944
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Speaker 4: he talks to everybody. He took to Alex Jones, he

945
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Speaker 4: talks to it like.

946
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Speaker 5: But if it were so, who's Trump to blame? Mom

947
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Speaker 5: Donnie from No.

948
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Speaker 4: I have no disagreement for me on that, no disagreement

949
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Speaker 4: for me.

950
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Speaker 6: On that whatsoever.

951
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Speaker 4: But again I don't I I think it's true that

952
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Speaker 4: this is very obviously much more of a controversy when

953
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Speaker 4: Mom Donnie does it and the coverage of the Mom

954
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Speaker 4: Donnie stuff has been Just the fact that Fox News

955
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Speaker 4: had to issue a correction for calling him an unindicted

956
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Speaker 4: co conspirator tells you what you need to know about

957
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Speaker 4: the standard for Mom Donnie going to see him now.

958
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Speaker 4: Adrian Cuomo went on Impulsive spelled p A U L.

959
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Speaker 3: Everybody loves to do a name play and I never

960
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Speaker 3: did Grim News.

961
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Speaker 6: So that was that was a really brave decision I have.

962
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Speaker 4: Here's a little flavor of Cuomo on Impulsive with logan pol.

963
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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. Andrew Cuomo, why would you want to

964
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Speaker 3: be the mayor of New York?

965
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Speaker 11: We are at a point where we have to make progress.

966
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Speaker 11: Mamdanni is a socialist, the child of wealth, never had

967
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Speaker 11: to work, never managed anyone. If Mandani is elected mayor,

968
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Speaker 11: Trump will take over New York.

969
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Speaker 6: So why is Mamdani currently leading the polls.

970
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Speaker 11: He has appeal with very simplistic solutions that would never work.

971
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Speaker 11: Fast free busses, Oh yeah, that sounds good.

972
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Speaker 6: Did everyone was a fast bus when he was slow bus? Okay?

973
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Speaker 4: And that's the backs of desperation to me, And of

974
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Speaker 4: course he probably is openly desperate at this point.

975
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Speaker 6: We've seen him down in just about every pole.

976
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Speaker 4: Uh not look a good friend of Cuomo when you're

977
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Speaker 4: going on impulsive to laugh about kicking your brother's ass.

978
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Speaker 3: I mean, uh, Democrats, should you reach out go on

979
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Speaker 3: these different Oh sorry, independents because Cuomo tried to be

980
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Speaker 3: a Democrat and Democrats thoroughly rejected him. So he's independent

981
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Speaker 3: on there.

982
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Speaker 5: But yeah, he looks like somebody who wants this election

983
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Speaker 5: to be over, annoyed at the fact that he has

984
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Speaker 5: to compete for it, frustrated at the public for not

985
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Speaker 5: allowing him to have this easy re entry into public life.

986
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Speaker 3: And I guess just contemplating, like, you know, what.

987
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 5: Kind of big money organization he's going to like fall

988
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Speaker 5: back on after his inevitable defeat in upcoming election, because

989
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: you know, and he keeps thinking that, and Bill Ackman

990
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Speaker 5: keeps thinking that if Sleewah Curtis Leewah, the Republican nominee,

991
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Speaker 5: will drop out, that that would be the ticket for Cuomo.

992
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Speaker 5: But it doesn't make any sense, Like if you are

993
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Speaker 5: currently supporting Sliwah, you're you either want some outsider who's

994
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 5: says like wacky fun stuff all the time, which is

995
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Speaker 5: not Cuomo.

996
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Speaker 3: Or you are a very part as a Republican and

997
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Speaker 3: you live in New York City and you hate Cuomo

998
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Speaker 3: more than you hate Mom Donnie at this point, like

999
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Speaker 3: Cuomo has been you know, the Republicans of New York

1000
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: hate Cuomo. Yeah, So on what planet if Sleiwa dropped out?

1001
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: I would that the lead that zoramm Donny has over Cuomo,

1002
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Speaker 3: I think would actually expand. Like I said, this, this

1003
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 3: weird idea that like everyone would just rush to support

1004
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: Cuomo if only Sliwa wasn't there. It's just completely absurd.

1005
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 4: So John Hagey, by the way, did the benediction when

1006
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem.

1007
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 6: Is what it looks like right now.

1008
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: And Hagy's one of these millennial like.

1009
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 5: Oh, he's apocalyptic, like we need all of the Jews

1010
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 5: in Israel to like burn so that we can bring

1011
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 5: about the apocalypse and whatever.

1012
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 4: He said that Antichrist will be like Jewish and half

1013
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: half Jewish and gay.

1014
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 6: He's said all kinds of stuff that.

1015
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 5: Like I think he said, so we don't have to

1016
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 5: wonder what would happen if Trump appeared with somebody, Well,

1017
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 5: if Trump.

1018
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: Views like that, right, and I have looked up. He

1019
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 4: has appeared with Ted Cruz to my point to undermine

1020
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: my point, but he's he's yeah, but I mean like

1021
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: he's I'll say.

1022
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: This like if he has a following, he.

1023
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: Has a following, and any conservatives who are acting like

1024
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: this is just like that that it's utterly disqualifying for

1025
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: mom Donnie to meet with a community leader, whether or

1026
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 4: not you like that community leader.

1027
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 6: Everyone does that.

1028
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: My point is just I think it would be a

1029
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: huge media circus. But that was beside the point of

1030
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: what we were talking about. I think I genuinely think

1031
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: it would be a huge media circus like the Haggy

1032
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 4: stuff was at the time. So anyway, don't need to

1033
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 4: get into that any more. We could do a full

1034
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 4: segment on that. Let's take a look at this mashup

1035
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Speaker 4: from Bill Marshaw last week when Andrew Rosserkin went on and.

1036
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Speaker 6: Said, we have a financial literacy problem in America.

1037
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Speaker 12: But the financial literacy problem in America is affecting the

1038
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 12: politics in America, which is that if you don't understand that,

1039
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 12: if you actually decide that you think rent stabilization is

1040
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 12: going to somehow increase the supply of apartments and homing

1041
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 12: and homes in the country, you've got it completely backwards.

1042
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 12: Because what happens is the developers say, well, if they're

1043
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 12: going to stabilize the rent in this town, we don't

1044
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 12: really want to be developing in this town, in which

1045
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 12: case there's not going to be enough supply, in which

1046
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 12: case it's going to cost more to rent your apartment.

1047
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 12: That's just the way it is. And unless people understand that,

1048
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 12: when a politician stands up and say, excuse me, I'm

1049
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 12: over here and I'm very happy to give you rent

1050
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 12: stabilization and the free grows us and this and that,

1051
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 12: and then it doesn't happen.

1052
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 3: I think people are going to be in for a surprise.

1053
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean a couple of things.

1054
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Speaker 12: Disturbed by the global uh the globalize uh the what?

1055
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 9: What?

1056
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: What do you say?

1057
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: That?

1058
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 12: Just just this made me crazy over the weekend. Did

1059
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Speaker 12: you see what he said globalized? He didn't say globalized, Yeah,

1060
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Speaker 12: in Fidida, but he did say that he wouldn't condemn it.

1061
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Speaker 6: That clip is so painful. Globalized, the what globalized? The globalized?

1062
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 6: The globalized? Oh, he didn't say it, but he said

1063
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 6: he wouldn't condemn it.

1064
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Speaker 5: I will say that he's one of the harder working

1065
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 5: guys in media, like he's doing a column for the time,

1066
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Speaker 5: he's doing that.

1067
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: Show every day. Yeah, he's probably meeting with bankers late

1068
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: at night, so.

1069
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Speaker 6: Like you know, like that, I feel bad for him

1070
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Speaker 6: because of that. He's gonna talk.

1071
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Speaker 5: Also that, so the guy's probably running on fumes. So

1072
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Speaker 5: I I sympathize with people stumbling over their words.

1073
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Speaker 4: These we have had tried to get him on to

1074
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Speaker 4: talk about his new book name.

1075
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Speaker 3: Did he come on this Crystal and Sager.

1076
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Speaker 4: I don't think he did, but I was listening to

1077
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Speaker 4: it this weekend. It's it's quite interesting.

1078
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Speaker 5: And so while I will sympathize with the stumbling over

1079
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Speaker 5: the words, what I won't sympathize with is lecturing people

1080
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 5: about not knowing how things work, and then objectively not

1081
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 5: knowing how things work. Because he's talking about freeze the rent,

1082
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 5: and he's saying that that will disincentivize developers from building

1083
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 5: new projects. Except the freeze the rent program that MM

1084
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Speaker 5: Donnie's talking about would apply to particular buildings that are

1085
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Speaker 5: already in the.

1086
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Speaker 3: Rent stabilization system or whatever.

1087
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Speaker 5: That would not necessarily apply to all new developments, and

1088
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 5: New York City housing law is extremely complicated. There's rent control,

1089
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 5: there's rent stabilizer's lots of other things. But to say

1090
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 5: that it would just blanket apply to all rent is

1091
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 5: just false.

1092
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: And he lives in at least he works in New York.

1093
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 5: I don't know where he lives, so he should he

1094
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Speaker 5: should know that so and it's fine to get that wrong,

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Speaker 5: but he shouldn't get that wrong. While you're also criticizing

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Speaker 5: kids for not having financial literacy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I also think the question of like, where's the

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Speaker 4: financial literacy among those who are overseeing the status quo?

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Speaker 4: If you're missing that part of it and you're criticizing

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Speaker 4: the people criticizing the status quo, while arguably I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 6: Want to accuse him.

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Speaker 4: Of defending the status quo in New York, but if

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Speaker 4: you're just picking on the quote financial illiteracy of people

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Speaker 4: who are now asking for rents to stabilization, which I

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Speaker 4: obviously disagree with, but there's a huge degree of financial

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Speaker 4: illiteracy among the people who are overseeing the status quo.

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Speaker 4: And if you're just attacking the people against the status quo,

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Speaker 4: never you know, asking or condescending to the people who

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Speaker 4: are overseeing the status quo, then you or your priorities

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Speaker 4: are wrong.

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Speaker 5: And then you wanted to talk about this AI slop

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Speaker 5: the Quomo's been serving up to people.

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Speaker 3: And if you're angry.

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Speaker 5: About your electricity bill every month, you should be a

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Speaker 5: little bit frustrated that Quomo is using the juice to

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Speaker 5: create let's roll this utterly disturbing and bizarre AI ad.

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Speaker 13: Hello, it's me de Blasio. You know New York City's

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Speaker 13: least favorite mayor. Today I wanted to introduce you to

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Speaker 13: my mini me mom, Danny Hia. If you thought my

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Speaker 13: policies were eber, you're gonna freaking hate this shaw Will boss.

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Speaker 13: In twenty twenty, I cut one billion dollars from the NYPD,

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Speaker 13: which dramatically spiked the crime and I wanted it fund

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Speaker 13: the police entirely.

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Speaker 3: So evil, so unsafe. What are we supposed to do

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Speaker 3: with that?

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Speaker 4: This is profoundly embarrassing. I don't know who's laughing at that.

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Speaker 4: It's I mean, well, who's the market for that?

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Speaker 3: You could laugh at it.

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Speaker 6: You could laugh at it. You can't laugh with it.

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Speaker 3: It's a little too pathetic to laugh at almost you can't.

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Speaker 3: I can imagine some people like you, if you were stoned.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not what he's going for though.

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Speaker 5: Then, but you'd be so confused because in order to

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Speaker 5: laugh at it, you have to have some sense of

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Speaker 5: what on earth it's trying to do.

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Speaker 3: And then if.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't do it, the subversion of that is very funny.

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Speaker 3: But I keep like, what come on, come on, guy,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing?

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Speaker 6: It's brutal, but it's the desperation and they.

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Speaker 3: This is your king, this is who Trump wants to

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Speaker 3: be the mayor of New York City.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think any part of Trump wants him

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Speaker 4: to be the mayor of New York City.

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Speaker 6: He just wants him.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more than he wants melm Nani to

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Speaker 4: be the mayor of New York City.

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Speaker 3: Why is Trump not right?

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Speaker 6: Great question?

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Speaker 3: He has just as much chance as Cuomo and way

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Speaker 3: more is.

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Speaker 4: Way morez Well the Ai stuff and the Logan Paul

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Speaker 4: stuff like that Logan palm like he's got a huge audience.

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Speaker 6: Does he have a huge audience.

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Speaker 4: Of people who are going to vote in the New

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Speaker 4: York City mayoral election? Based on an interview that Logan?

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Speaker 4: Probably not. But he's like Cuomo is down double digits

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Speaker 4: to a thirty two year old Democratic Socialist and just

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Speaker 4: within the last like what two weeks before the election,

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Speaker 4: he decides to get this desperate. That's how bad. I mean,

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Speaker 4: his whole campaign has been really bad. It's escalating in

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Speaker 4: its awfulness.

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Speaker 3: Remarkably, it really is. You wouldn't think it could have

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Speaker 3: gotten worse.

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Speaker 6: And here we are, here we are now.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait for his kind of post election analysis

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Speaker 5: of what he did wrong in the general.

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Speaker 6: That'll be good, that'll be good.

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Speaker 5: My favorite part is that he now is going around saying,

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Speaker 5: why is everybody talking so much about Israel?

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Speaker 3: This is a New York City mayoral election. Incredible, you

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Speaker 3: made the whole thing about Israel.

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Speaker 4: But he could have used that tactic in the primary,

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Speaker 4: when Mam Donnie was saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna rest Nyaho or whatever. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, But when Mam Donnie was saying, hey, he got

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Speaker 4: Mam Donnie was praised for his excellent answer to that

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Speaker 4: question in the debate, where he said, I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to Israel, I'm staying in I'm the mayor of New York.

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Speaker 4: And Cuomo then decides to get back in the race

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Speaker 4: on a bold platform of learning literally nothing from getting

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Speaker 4: his ass handed to him by a thirty two year

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Speaker 4: old Democratic socialist in the prime Mary and has continued

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Speaker 4: to talk talk, talk about Israel as though it's the

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Speaker 4: only way he could possibly win the New York City

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Speaker 4: mayor all release, so let's put this last element on

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Speaker 4: the screen for this block. He was at a town

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Speaker 4: hall on the Upper West Side Monday night with Alisha Bisel,

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Speaker 4: who is I believe, the daughter, I'm sorry, the son

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Speaker 4: of Elie Vessel, so obviously the famous author Holocaust survivor.

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Speaker 4: And the quote from Alisha Bissell was, what would our

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Speaker 4: fathers think that we have to be here tonight in

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Speaker 4: this moment, this moment that they spent their entire lives

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Speaker 4: working to make sure never happened again.

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Speaker 5: Ryan, Yeah, yeah, he's like to campaign with Eli Bezel's

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Speaker 5: son while at the close of the race, while at

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Speaker 5: the same time complaining that it's all that's too much

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Speaker 5: about Israel. Is I'm not well thought out as a

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Speaker 5: campaign strategy.

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Speaker 3: By the way, everybody's read Night, which is, you know,

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Speaker 3: amendous work of literature. He also wrote, Dawn, you read

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 6: I think we had to read it in school.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's like it's like his character and a

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Speaker 3: British soldier and he and his job is to execute

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Speaker 3: the British soldier at dawn because they were killing a

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Speaker 3: lot of British soldiers at the time. And it's just

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Speaker 3: him having a conversation with the guy that's the kill

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Speaker 3: in the morning. It's really interesting, disturbing book. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I don't know what, like what's Cuomo doing here.

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Speaker 6: The final thought on this and maybe you can explain

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Speaker 6: it to me.

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Speaker 4: But the right, and it's not even just the right,

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Speaker 4: it's people like Andrew Cuomo who want at the same

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Speaker 4: time to look at mom Donnie as a radical left

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Speaker 4: culture warrior. And Cuomo isn't on the sort of he's

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Speaker 4: not on the as much as some people on the

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Speaker 4: right are. But saying this guy is queer liberation means

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Speaker 4: to fund the police. That's my favorite mom Donnie tweet, obviously,

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Speaker 4: But you can't have that and then say he's an Islamist.

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Speaker 6: At the same time, Like that's insane.

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Speaker 3: It's like insane because nothing is required to make any sense.

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Speaker 4: But like I think that is the that is the

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Speaker 4: narrative on the right right now about Mam Donnie is

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Speaker 4: that he law is right, queer surial, He is a

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Speaker 4: political isthmust. I've heard people try to scare that circle before,

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Speaker 4: but like it's the same thing with ilhan Omar or.

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Speaker 3: Is a Shaqueria law.

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Speaker 6: That's that's something different.

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Speaker 4: But it makes like that's that is that landing with anybody,

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Speaker 4: because it.

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Speaker 6: Really it does. It's on its face.

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Speaker 4: The common sense question to that is like you're telling

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Speaker 4: me he's extremely pro gay and that he now met

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Speaker 4: with this m mom who has said, you know, don't

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Speaker 4: make don't go out with sticks and look for homosexuals,

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Speaker 4: but make them feel uncomfortable. You're saying that Mamdani and whorse,

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Speaker 4: is that secretly that he's he's he's fooling us into

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Speaker 4: he's actually like a full Cheria in Manhattan type person.

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Speaker 5: To Trump's credit, he really just sticks with the communist

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Speaker 5: thing like his his friend Laura Loomer just goes one

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Speaker 5: on the Muslim hit, whereas Trump, I think recognizes that

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Speaker 5: that's that's absurd and just he goes just hard on

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Speaker 5: the he's a he's a comedy.

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Speaker 6: Mmm, yes, that's I guess that is Trump's credit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll give him that one.