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Speaker 1: But Brad passed away aged forty seven, following a battle

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Speaker 1: with cancer that he was very public about. He had

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Speaker 1: The band shared a statement which announced his death, which

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Speaker 1: with heavy hearts, we shared the news that Brad Arnold, founder,

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, February seventh at the age of forty seven,

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Speaker 1: with his beloved wife Jennifer and his family by his side.

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Speaker 1: He passed away peacefully, surrounded by loved ones in his

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Speaker 1: sleep after his courageous battle with cancer. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to play this for you. And I was fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: like so many times it does, and then I think

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Speaker 1: for them, so just returning the favor. Also, I just

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Speaker 1: one of our Raging Idiots million dollar shows and against

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Speaker 1: his sobriety journey and sharing his coins and again, extremely sad.

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Speaker 1: Forty seven years old, Rest in peace to Brad Arnold.

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Speaker 1: And here's the episode of the Bobby Cast with Three

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Speaker 1: Doors Down singer Brad Arnold. This is an exciting one

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Speaker 1: for me because it's Brad Arnold from Three Doors Down.

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Speaker 1: Glad to have you man, Thank you for having him. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. I'm such a fan of

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Speaker 1: Three Doors down. Because how old of a guy are you?

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Speaker 1: I am forty, hitch okay, forty. We're about the same age.

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Speaker 1: I about turned thirty nine. Yeah, god, you were so

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Speaker 1: you were the same age basically, right, you were so

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Speaker 2: Man, we did start young. I started touring when I

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Speaker 2: So it's touring because I think I would have enjoyed

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Speaker 1: You know, and it's basically, you know.

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Speaker 2: Just to here's the back I used to tell people,

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Speaker 2: I didn't you know, I didn't do a lot of things,

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Speaker 2: And and I've been without alcohol. I've been alcohol free

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Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed it so much more. I think

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Speaker 1: last time I saw you guys was you guys in Fuel.

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Speaker 1: You guys were playing together. But I bet a lot

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Speaker 1: So how did those tours often come together? Did you?

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Speaker 2: The grace of God, our first record like done really good,

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Speaker 1: We had we went our separate ways. So like not

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Speaker 1: good blood, not good blood. So what's the deal with Knickelback?

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Speaker 1: Why did they already hate on Nickelback?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think people hate on Nickelback? And I

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Speaker 2: Started on two old Ratty Eagles, you know, like the

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Speaker 2: Somebody would always give me a bunk, and uh so

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Speaker 2: we just kind of we Our old drummer is now

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Speaker 2: And they was just I don't really know, honestly, how

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Speaker 1: But I don't know why people I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I don't like them anymore. But I don't like them.

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Speaker 2: I don't dislike you know, honestly, I hadn't talked to

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Speaker 1: Here's a story one of my friends told me because

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Speaker 2: I've heard some stories about Ched doing some pretty outland

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Speaker 1: Know, I guess probably I was probably like nineteen or twenty,

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Speaker 2: We don't tour when we you know, when those first

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for them, and I get mad for them,

439
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes, like I've popped off a crowd at people

440
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: in the crowds, I'm like, dude, they didn't pay to

441
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 1: hear you tell jokes, that's right. They paid to come

442
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 1: and experience whatever I'm bringing, that's right. And I wonder

443
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,479
Speaker 1: do you feel that way? I do? I do, and

444
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, and and at one of the.

445
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 2: Shows, that that first show, there was somebody over over

446
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 2: out in one side of the crowd that was just

447
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: kept on screaming and I remember I could hear it

448
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: while I was singing, And I mean they weren't like

449
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: screaming obscenities or something hateful or anything. But after a

450
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 2: couple of songs, security came and got them and take them,

451
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 2: took them out.

452
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: And I don't like to see anybody get taken out

453
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,919
Speaker 1: of a show. I was kind of glad. Yeah, And

454
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,119
Speaker 1: you know what, and they paid for it too, But

455
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 1: they can't run it for everybody else, that's right. That's

456
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: what That's all it's about to me, is that you're

457
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 1: running it for everybody else that got a sitter that

458
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 1: took a night and dedicated to come watch freaking three

459
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: doors downplay and there's some guy won't stop screaming as

460
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: you guys are playing here without you acoustic, which is cool.

461
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Speaker 3: We interrupt this interview to bring you a message from

462
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Speaker 3: our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

463
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Speaker 1: So what was the second single? A Loser?

464
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 2: I wrote Loser right around that same time, but actually

465
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 2: wrote her about one of my friends.

466
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: And it wasn't actually calling him a loser.

467
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 2: But he and I grew up together and I know

468
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: him since were little bitty kids, and uh, he started

469
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: getting into like jokes, pretty bad and stuff, and I

470
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: wasn't writing it calling him a loser. I watched his

471
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 2: attitude chains to where I could tell that like he

472
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: thought he was a loser, and I was. I was

473
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: almost writing it from his perspective, looking at himself, you know.

474
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

475
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: And and thankfully dude straightened up and he's a good dude.

476
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: And I had talked to him a long time, But

477
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,719
Speaker 2: that it was written really about one of my friends.

478
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: He wrote those songs in high school, huh, and here

479
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: they are lasting fifteen twenty years later. That's crazy, by

480
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: the grace of God. So were you in high school?

481
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: Were you the cool music kid? Were you the dorky

482
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: music kid? I kind of hung out with everybody.

483
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was really like I was saying earlier,

484
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: it worked our avenues to be from that little town, and.

485
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of knew everybody.

486
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like the kid that got picked on, but

487
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't the kid that got invited every party either,

488
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 2: you know. And because we we practice all the time,

489
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: we were just we played all the time, and we

490
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: should have been better, but we knew we got to

491
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 2: where we knew everybody because it was one little bar

492
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: in our town and we played there every weekend. And

493
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: I was on like sixteen, and I had to get

494
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: I literally had to get a note from my parents

495
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: saying it was okay for me to be in there.

496
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: And a note that's funny, a note to break the law,

497
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: that's funny, note to take into a bar. Yeah, playing

498
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: at the bars.

499
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: And we just we'd always have like three or four hundred

500
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: people in there. It was never like but double all

501
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 2: there was to go do. And we charged like three

502
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: or three or four dollars to come in, and we

503
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: just got to keep the keep the cover charge.

504
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: So they made the alcohol money. Mm hm, and you

505
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: guys got the cover we did. Why about you guys

506
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: were doing all right then? Because again how we grew up.

507
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: You and I both hic. That's that's a lot of money.

508
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: I worked at McDonald's, and I could make more playing

509
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 2: in a bar both nights of the weekend that I

510
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: could make a McDonald's all week.

511
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: Did you continue to work at McDonald's for a little bit?

512
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: When did you go? All right, I'm just gonna dedicate

513
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: myself to music.

514
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: I mainly quit there because I wanted to go to

515
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: a party and my menage let me help work.

516
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: I was like, see, yeah, I make more money playing

517
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: in bars anyway. That's funny. Three doors down the acoustic versions,

518
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: uh from their acoustic back porch jam check that out?

519
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: All right? So how many how many singles on that

520
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: first record? Four? So what's the last one that comes off?

521
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Ud be like that? So that first single, Kryptonite, you

522
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: got a couple of rockets. That fourth one goes back

523
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: to pop and does really well. I remember that, like

524
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: playing that one like crazy. So you start with a

525
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: bang and you in with a bang. Going into the

526
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: second record, you gotta feel pretty good about yourself. It

527
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: was that was It was amazing. It was amazing.

528
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: I remember I literally remember being so mad one night

529
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: and like at my n R guy, I was like,

530
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: why did will you sell eighty thousand records last week?

531
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that is bull crowd. I'll last week? Yeah,

532
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: random week. Wow, the times have changed.

533
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: My friend was like what or maybe it was like

534
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: sixty thousand or something, but it was like ridiculous.

535
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: It was some ridiculous amount of records and I was like.

536
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: What.

537
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: Gets so crazy? Man? I was killing it now an artist,

538
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: wo beg. I think like Florida, Georgia Lansaw, like fifty

539
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: thousand last week and it was like the biggest I

540
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: didn't listen. Times have changed too, like the way that

541
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: people get music. Absolutely, but okay, So second record was

542
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: that Away from the Sun. It was I didn't even

543
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: have notes on that, Like I'm just going straight from

544
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: memory here. Away from the sun, like the black cover

545
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: the sun kind of a tell me if I'm wrong,

546
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: Like maybe like the moon's covering a little bit. There's

547
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: like an outside like the edge of the signs that right,

548
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: mm hm, I'm so good at this I'm good at

549
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: and so first song off the record is.

550
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: What, uh the first single off of U Away from

551
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: the Sun was.

552
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: When I'm Gone. Was there ever a resentment that you

553
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: guys didn't get the coverage? And did you ever go

554
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Is it because we're from super South? Is it because

555
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: I mean I resented it? Yeah?

556
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: And I mean and you know, because even really, you know,

557
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: they've wanted us to kind of separate ourselves from being

558
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: so Southern. And I mean you can hear the way

559
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: I talk. I tried not to for a little while,

560
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't help it, you know, And and uh,

561
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: and you know, I guess they associated with being.

562
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: Kind of stupid or whatever.

563
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Then especially you know, it's like because there were no

564
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: Southern bands out and the head and been for a

565
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: long time. You know, I think the last Southern band

566
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: was out before US was scandered.

567
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: There was a rock band. You know, how does that

568
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: conversation go where they go? Is it a conversation where

569
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: they say, hey, like we need you to be a

570
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: little more California a little or you know not, because

571
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: again it's another something guy right in front of you

572
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: asking this question. Because when I started in a radio

573
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, you're gonna be popping up up.

574
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: You have to lose your accent a little bit. So

575
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: and that conversation has had to me and I did

576
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: a bit, and now I've kind of got back to

577
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, I sound a bit like I sounded growing up.

578
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: But was that conversation I had with you? Like, guys,

579
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: you got to chill out a little bit on that.

580
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: In the Mississippi they did, and they send us to

581
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: a voice coach for a couple of sessions and just

582
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: to help us, like like me, which you know, a

583
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: new proper grammar.

584
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: I just don't like to use it, you know what

585
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But I did. I tried to lose it

586
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: for a little while.

587
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: And I mean, and it's not as thick as it

588
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: was when I started, Man, that was it was.

589
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: I probably could have managed to shave a little bit

590
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: of that all over. There are people surprised sometimes that

591
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: I think your accident is when you do doc. They

592
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: are because you don't really hear it in the music.

593
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: But again, you don't really hear the spice girls being

594
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: British and most of the stuff they sing either I know.

595
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: Or it blows me away, Like you you've seen this

596
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: actor in four or five movies, and then you see

597
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: me accept in.

598
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: An award or something. It's like what they guy and

599
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: Walking Dead kills me. He's off the show now. But

600
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: the main guy, Rick Grimes, he would say he's on

601
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: the show. He's like from Atlanta and he talks and

602
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: he's like hey, Rick Grimes, and then he's on the

603
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: award shows going my thanks for the award. I'm like,

604
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: what is happening right now? Like I don't want to

605
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: hear this. You're running everything I know about this guy.

606
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: I picture him with Rick Grimes from Atlanta, not this

607
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: kangaroo guy. So you keep making hits, but you're probably

608
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: not getting the respect that you just you feel like

609
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: you deserve in the mainstream Like that would that would

610
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: irritate me.

611
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: It was a little irritating, but but then you know,

612
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: I guess, but then you go home and forget about it,

613
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: you know, because you're amongst your friends and they're glad

614
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: that you.

615
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: I always just thought it was more important to stay me.

616
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Than it was to be who they wanted me to be,

617
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: because you know, I think God for my mom and daddy,

618
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, they were always encouraging to me and and

619
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: just let me.

620
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: Do my thing. You know.

621
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 2: They they didn't force me to do it, but they

622
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: didn't keep me from doing it. But you know, my

623
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: mom just always reminded me of like Brad, that won't

624
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: always be there son, you know, And it's always kept

625
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: that in my mind that this will you know, who

626
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: I am.

627
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: Will always be here, but that won't always be there.

628
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: So I just kind of got to where I just

629
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: took it with a grain of salt and I just

630
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 2: am who I am, you know.

631
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: And how is the relationship between the band as you

632
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: guys started to skyrocket with the songs doing so well,

633
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: getting better, getting worse, worse.

634
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: Really it did, because honestly, I mean, we all got

635
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: out there partying and like one of us was, well,

636
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: all of us drank a good bit, but like one

637
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: of us was, it wasn't that we didn't get along.

638
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Our drugs didn't get along because.

639
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: One person was on this, and one person was on this,

640
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: one person was on this, and and by our third record,

641
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: we all had our own buses. It was five guys

642
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: in the band and four band busses and then all

643
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: the crew buses.

644
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: So we were rolling around with seven buses because the

645
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: four main band guys hated each other. So how does

646
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: that dynamic work when you have to work on things

647
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: and when you have to get on stage and be

648
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: a collective.

649
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: That got to where it was like the only time

650
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: that we see each other with sound check and on stage,

651
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: and you know, we were playing amphitheaters and stuff. You

652
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: keep a pretty consistent sound, so we'd get a sound

653
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: established and we wouldn't even do sound check. I wouldn't

654
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: see some of those see the guys until it was

655
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, if we played at nine, I'd see m

656
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: and eight thirty when we were in the dressing room

657
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: putting years on.

658
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: And it was just all right, you guys ready. And

659
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: then you go out and play and rocky show and

660
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: everybody thinks that you're the best friends ever because you

661
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: used to be and you look like you. I mean,

662
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: you go out and you're a rock band, you're rocking,

663
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: people think you're rocking as brothers. When does it get

664
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: better or does it It's sort of didn't, man. I mean,

665
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the there.

666
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Was three of us to start, and I'm one that's here,

667
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, and one Frankly is in prison, and one's

668
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: dead and both there's a result of drugs man.

669
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: And you know, and.

670
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: Chris, Chris was not one of the original guys, but

671
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: he was in the band when we got signed, and

672
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: I think guy for him because he got clean. You know,

673
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: he was on toe completely different. My thing was just

674
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: always drinking and I drink profusely, and uh, he did

675
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: a lot of different other things, but uh, he got clean.

676
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: And my drummer, Greg Upchurch, he's been a drummer for

677
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: he became. He used to play for Puddle of Mud.

678
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: And when Daniel left and went to Nickelback, that was

679
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: right after we had done a tour that was Nickelback

680
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: three doors down in Puddle of Mud, and Daniel went

681
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: to Nickelback, Greg came with us and Greg' from Oklahoma

682
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 2: and uh and Greg drank like a fish too, And

683
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: it got to where, you know, Chris By, not so

684
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: gentle persuasion went to went to rehab and he got

685
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: clean and somehow, and it's a testament to his variety,

686
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: stayed sober with us, still partying like mad men.

687
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Really And then a few years later, Greg By not so.

688
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: General persuasion went to rehab and he got clean just

689
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: from drinking and Man, I started seeing those guys and

690
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: I was still I knew that, I knew that I

691
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: needed to change, but you know, I started seeing what

692
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: those guys had, and you know, you see them over

693
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: there and they're happy, and I'm still here miserable. And

694
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: I thank God for man because seeing them like that

695
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: and through their encouragement, you know, they never pushed it

696
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: on me, but I was like, I have to.

697
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: It got to be where I could trace. I was

698
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: ruining my life.

699
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: There was no big tragedy or no catastrophe or anything,

700
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: but I was putting my wife through hell. I was

701
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: putting everybody I knew through hell and putting myself through hell.

702
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: And I was seeing.

703
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: Around me and I was like, I have to change,

704
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: and I went to rehabit. It's the best thing I've

705
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: ever done because I wanted to get sober, but I

706
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 2: didn't know how. And I went out there and they

707
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: talked me how how to deal with my problems. Because

708
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: people don't have drug addictions. They have life problems, and

709
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: they you know, they don't have drug problems, rather.

710
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: They have life problems, and they sidestepped there.

711
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: Instead of facing their problems, they sidestep them and use

712
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: drugs and that's what I was doing, and and I

713
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: just had to learn how to. And I had a

714
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: missing the gross misconception of what rehab was. I thought that,

715
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: you know, like you're going to a hospital and they

716
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: step you down and like you're going to sit here

717
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: and do you sober. But I just went out there

718
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: and they it was like going to college to learn

719
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: how to be sober. And it was awesome and it

720
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: was the best thing I've ever done. And it ain't

721
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: like you come out in your life's perfect, but it's

722
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 2: sure started to get a lot better. And bends that

723
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: I was sober, and two other guys were sober in

724
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: the band. The other two guys who didn't really have

725
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: problems anyway, they might casually.

726
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: Drink a little bit.

727
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: We all got sober, and it was like being in

728
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: a different band.

729
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: Really, man.

730
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: I always That's why I say, I wish it could

731
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: have always been like that, because we go out there

732
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: now and we didn't we generally.

733
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: We June our last summer.

734
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Too, where we were out and we were coming somewhere.

735
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 2: We're going from point A to point B, and we

736
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: were in like five miles of arches National parks. We

737
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: got off the bus and everybody went walked around the

738
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: park together. I was like, I cannot believe it. I've

739
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: been in this band for twenty years and this is

740
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: the first one of the first times I can. I

741
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: could look around and I was standing in the National

742
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Park with all five band members standing, and I was like.

743
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Man, when you took that in, I wish you could

744
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: have always been like that. You know what's funny is

745
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: you talk about these guys and not being put in

746
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: with gentle persuasion like my So I give you a

747
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: quick backstory before I tell you the question after my

748
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: mom died in her forties from drinking and drugs, because

749
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: then I put in a rehab a couple of times,

750
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: and she never wanted to be in rehab, so rehab

751
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: never worked for her. If that makes sense. Like when

752
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: you say they didn't want to go, I go, man,

753
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: because you have to embrace that, you really do. They

754
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: to hear that they didn't want to go and it

755
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: still worked for them. It's pretty amazing. It really is.

756
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: It's it really is. It was a miracle. It was

757
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: a miracle because Cryst will tell you. I mean it's

758
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: not it's not a secret.

759
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: And we we're not and you know, we're not ashamed

760
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: of of where we've been or and how we got

761
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: to where we are. And he'll tell you that he

762
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: was bad and I was bad, just on a different

763
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: on a different kid, you know.

764
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: And and when he when he had to go, it

765
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: was he had to go.

766
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean he had to go and and and I

767
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: think when he got there, he like realized it's like okay,

768
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: it's I think he realized it.

769
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's this or death that is that close.

770
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: So it was that much of a problem. It was

771
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: do you do the thing? Because so I've never had

772
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: a drink of alcohol because I like, I see my

773
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: mom died from it. My I don't know my real

774
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: dad because an alcohol like my I have a lot

775
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: of family problems with it. So I was early on

776
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to have this happen

777
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: to me. But what happens is people will treat me

778
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: different even though I let if I drink around me

779
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: like I'm good. Yeah, But I have to face I

780
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: was out a couple of nights ago and I was

781
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: meeting up with a friend, new friend, and I have

782
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: to get there early and order something that looks like

783
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: a drink or people treat me, they'll go, you know

784
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: what if you're not drinking, and I'm like, no, no,

785
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: just be yourself. I wonder do you have those problems

786
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: for people go, oh, he's sober. Now we have to

787
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: act different? Yes? And do you want them to act different?

788
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: No?

789
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: Do you need them to act different?

790
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: No?

791
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: And do you feel like sometimes you have to kind

792
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: of go guys, it's good?

793
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do all the time. I was read

794
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: a thing on it was a post on Instagram not longer.

795
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: It's it said as I follow a few recovery pages

796
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: and stuff on there, and it was one of them.

797
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: It said it said, uh, alcohol is the only drug

798
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: you have to justify not doing.

799
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, true, you're right, because it's it's such a

800
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: social such a social drug. Yeah you know that. Yeah,

801
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: that's wild. You're like, why don't you Why don't you drink?

802
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, because I do, because I'm allergic to it.

803
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: That's what I just tell it. I'm allergic alcohol. You

804
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: know that's crazy. And listen, that's a great story. I

805
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't even wasn't gonna spear off into that. But I'm

806
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: comfortable talking about my story, and it's great to have

807
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: somebody else that that is the same.

808
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome

809
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: back to the Bobby Cast.

810
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't curse in my personal life, and I definitely

811
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: don't curse on stage, like I have my my shows

812
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: be completely clean. And I know that's the same thing

813
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: with you guys. Now do you do if the bands

814
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: are opening for you have songs with curse words, do

815
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: you have that talk with them like, hey, we don't

816
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: do that or not we shy.

817
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: Away from a band and if they get out there,

818
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's the one thing that is the festival.

819
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 1: You can't really say.

820
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: And and I don't speak perfectly in my private life,

821
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: but I do not cuss on stage. And that also

822
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: goes back. My mama told me I better not get

823
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: up there. She's sitting the bread and my mama is

824
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: the other Baptist to the bone. You sitting the.

825
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Bread, you gotta do it. Cuss on that stage and

826
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: be ashamed of you. So I never did. And and

827
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: but you know it's.

828
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: Worked out, and people vowed you that very very much

829
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: because I can't tell you, you know, especially having songs

830
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: about Superman and this and that we have a lot

831
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: of kids at our shows, and we still have a

832
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: lot of kids at our shows. It's like just the

833
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: next generation of them, which is freaking cool. It's the

834
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: kids of the kids. Yeah, yeah it is. And but

835
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: I've over the years had so many parents come up

836
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: to me and say thank you for putting on the

837
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: show that I can bring my kids too.

838
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: And you know, we really have tried over the years to.

839
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: Kind of to I mean, you know, hey, man, come on,

840
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: you know you can't. We hate to try to control

841
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: an opening band. But they got out there and were

842
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: vulgar or something. We definitely say something to them about it.

843
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will have that talk with my openers, like

844
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: I'll bring music as because when I tour, I'll go

845
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: and I'll do an hour set of stand up. But

846
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: I kind of treat it like a variety show. I

847
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: have someone coming open musically for me, and I'll have

848
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: the talk like, hey, people, it's not a kids show,

849
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: but there may be some kids in the crowd. But

850
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: people feel like this is safe space, like don't get

851
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: out there and be political, don't get out there and

852
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: be dropping f bombs and bombs, like just know that

853
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: people feel like this safe spot for them to come

854
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: and breathe, yes, and smile and taking a show, and

855
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: there can be some kids. And if it's PG thirteen,

856
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: that's all right, yeah yeah. Or if it's SpongeBob Basket

857
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: where you make a joke that's only adults will get

858
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: and kids really won't, that's okay too. Yes, But that's

859
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: a that you know, I do that, and people appreciate

860
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: that because they don't have to come in and worry

861
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: and sit and go all right, is this gonna be

862
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: a place where one of the ways I'm gonna feel uncomfortable.

863
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't want that.

864
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's awesome that you do that too, man,

865
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: because it's not a whole lot of that in the

866
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: world right now.

867
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: It's cool.

868
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's better. It's better like that too. And

869
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: and also that's quality.

870
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: You know, you don't need that. You don't.

871
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I need I like because you

872
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: put on a quality show and you're entertaining.

873
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: Guy, you don't need that. I appreciate that. I don't

874
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: know about that exactly what I appreciate it. Well, you

875
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: think about I was listening to some of these bands

876
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: talk about, like imagine Dragons. They're really big. But when

877
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: you get so big, you start to get a lot

878
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: of hates. And the Magic Dragons are get a lot

879
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: of hate from a lot of these quote unquote finger

880
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: quote legit rock artists like Nickelback gets hate for their music.

881
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Wh how do you feel about, like, imagine dragons getting

882
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: all this hate right now? I didn't know that they were. Yeah,

883
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: who are the bands, Mike that are like out ripping

884
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: imagine Clipno's pretty big on ripping them slip No. They're like,

885
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: you're not real rock? What even is real when it

886
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: comes to.

887
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: Art of any of those guys real monsters, right, they're

888
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: the ones that bit on mask on stage.

889
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: You're right about that. When you did, you guys ever

890
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: start feeling that hate because you got so big?

891
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: We did from from it was it was like those

892
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: little movement bands. And it was from bands like Some

893
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: forty one and then those I hate, Like I don't

894
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: mean to.

895
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Pick on as they say, spill the tea, who is it?

896
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just all those like, you know, those

897
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: those movement bands, the punk bands that come through and

898
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: then this little movement comes, you know, and we were

899
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: we were never like the cool guys. But at the

900
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: same time, it's like we've done a lot of the

901
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: stuff that we've done sort of under the radar, you know,

902
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: because we were never like big enough that that we got.

903
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: A lot of hate. You know, I would say that

904
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: you guys are one of the most underrated bands in

905
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: my lifetime because of the amount of hits you have,

906
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: and people unfairly don't put you in that conversation of

907
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 1: the sounds that changed other and influenced other sounds, because again,

908
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: we didn't even play all your hits. I just have

909
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: like nine ten humongous songs. Here we're talking about humongous

910
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: songs that cross genres, and you know, I feel like

911
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: you guys are super underrated. Would you think that three

912
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: doors down an unrated band had to be humble and

913
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: say yes? But I wonder, I wonder what you say.

914
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: We never got a lot of attention. But but it's okay.

915
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that.

916
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't not me. I'm too competitive because I.

917
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: Always felt sorry, you know, like just just say like

918
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: it's easy to easy to say, Like Britney Spears always

919
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: felt sorry for her man of living under that microscope.

920
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: Me crazy too. I know she had like her little

921
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: episode and stuff. But I mean when there's constantly I

922
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: can't imagine walking out of every restaurant, every establishment, everywhere

923
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: that I went, somebody's standing there with the camera or something,

924
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: always wanting just living under the microscope. I never always

925
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: used to say, Man, I love being a radio band because.

926
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Everybody knows their homes.

927
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: They don't know what I look like, and so I

928
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: can sell a bunch of records, but I can see

929
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: go to Walmart.

930
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: That's funny you mentioned Walmart because I was talking to

931
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who lives in Boston. I was like,

932
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: growing up, we used to hang out of Walmart. Like

933
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: you go to Walmart, you know, you're in the parking lot,

934
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: or you're in Walmart or Sonic like in the South,

935
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: that's where you hang out. And he was like Walmart.

936
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and like we used to go

937
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: and hang out at the Jestsebelle Walmart. Like all right,

938
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Friday night, we'll go on quote cruise, you know, you

939
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: drive around this little square and then we'll just end

940
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: up with the Walmart. And you know, it's funny that

941
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: you would say that, because that's totally a Southern thing too,

942
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: as like to hang out of Walmart. That's funny, man. So,

943
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: but do they ever do the thing with you guys

944
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: where they go, hey, you should like they ate another

945
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: celebrity because if you do that, it can raise the

946
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: image of the band. They ever did that with you guys?

947
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: Do you ever do?

948
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: No?

949
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: I would I'd been like, Brad, there's Christina Aguilera. I'm

950
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna set you up right now. Did you ever think

951
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: of I'm moving to Los Angeles? Did you move to

952
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Los Angeles? Not only only while we were making a record? Hell?

953
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: They there for like a month? They ever say in

954
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: the move you need to get where the action is

955
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: and live there to be a part of it. Not

956
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: so much. I'm I think they kind of wanted us

957
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: to move to New York for like a little bit.

958
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, and what was up with

959
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: that move? Why do they think that was a good idea.

960
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Just to being being just like amongst the label and

961
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: just being amongst the business and and everything. But I

962
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: just I couldn't do it, man, I am I am

963
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: a country mouse.

964
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: I can't do it. What's home life for you? Like? Now? Uh?

965
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: We live on a farm out in Murphy's Boro. My

966
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: wife Beryl races horses, and we have six horses at

967
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: our house. We got a fifty acre farm, which I

968
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: never thought i'd have much that much land, and it's

969
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: kind of out in the country, but it's at the

970
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: same time, I got a grocery store like six miles

971
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: from the house, and it's not fancy, but it's it's

972
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: my heaven.

973
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: And I will get there and if we have stuff

974
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: to eat.

975
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: And I'll go home and the gate closes behind me

976
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: and I won't leave for three or four days.

977
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty acres, we do. I assume you have help. Uh.

978
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: We have my friend comes and feeds horses when we're

979
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: out of town or something if I'm gone.

980
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: And I have some guys that cut a part of

981
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: the yard.

982
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: But just because I don't have enough time to cut

983
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: it all, they probably cut like because I'll have to

984
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: mow it all because some of it's back in the

985
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: woods and some of it like the horse pastures. We

986
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: only cut a couple of times up, maybe once a month,

987
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: just to kind of knock them, knock the tops off

988
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: because they won't eat it once it gets a certain height.

989
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: They have their We have finicky horses.

990
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: They're spoiled. But there are our kids.

991
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: But you know that, right, So they cut probably ten

992
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: acres and I cut the pastures and we do it

993
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: all ourselves. When I leave here, I'm going home to

994
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: clean horse stalls.

995
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: And you're smiling as you say it. It's like you

996
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: love it. I like they're my babies, though, yeah, because

997
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: we don't have kids. Our horses are our kids. And

998
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: now I say, I'll smile about it here, I'll run

999
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: about it, but I'm standing here doing it.

1000
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: But you know, there are a lot of times when

1001
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: I'm busy and just kind of going and going and going.

1002
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: I'll like, man, I would love to be standing in

1003
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: my barn right now, and it's just I mean, it's peaceful,

1004
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: you know.

1005
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: And you get to do both. You get to be

1006
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: alone on your property and then you get to go

1007
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: and play shows and still have that lifestyle too and

1008
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: sing your songs. It's a blessing. And how often are

1009
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: you guys on the road right now?

1010
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: We go right now like every other weekend, and I

1011
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: have shows this weekend and next weekend, and we have

1012
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: a little more coming up later on in the summer,

1013
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: and then next year will be the twentieth anniversary of

1014
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: the Better Life, and we're gonna do like a full

1015
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: world tour on that one.

1016
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: Is that right? That'll be fun? And but I look

1017
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: forward to it. But man, I'm not twenty one years

1018
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: old anymore. You ever think, because you know, the big

1019
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: thing with and not for me, but the big thing

1020
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: with a lot of people that go in country music,

1021
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: they're like, well, that ain't country like yours country is

1022
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: a gets Do you ever think about doing a country

1023
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: song country record?

1024
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: I've been writing some lately, and I wrote about half

1025
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: of a country record one time. But honestly, I took

1026
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: it and uh, I was talking to some record guys

1027
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 2: about it, and it's like sell I said, why, They said,

1028
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: because it's because it's like.

1029
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: It's really country in a new countries to help it.

1030
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: What did you listen to growing up? I was.

1031
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm the youngest of seven kids, so I grew up

1032
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: listening to whatever my brother's sisters listened to. But when

1033
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: I was a kid, my favorite band growing up was

1034
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: Bon Jovi, and I grew up on eighties rock and

1035
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: I loved it and loved it and and honestly, when

1036
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: when Nirvana and stuff came out, I kind of fell

1037
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: off of it. I wasn't ready for it. I was

1038
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: too young for it, I think or something. And I

1039
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: listened to probably more country growing up than I like.

1040
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: My all time favorite song is to dance Garth.

1041
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it. You ever meet Garth? I never?

1042
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: That's the best. You'd love him? His trishy or what

1043
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: was up here a few days ago? Yeah, And I

1044
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: got a chance. I got to know Garth a love bit.

1045
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Garth played you know the show you played with this

1046
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: this year. I think you played with us the year before.

1047
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: I know, it's awesome. I love Garth Brooks. I would

1048
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: love to meet him. He's and he's a he's a

1049
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: guy too that you know, I've I've learned a bit

1050
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: from when like with people like Garth Brooks walks into

1051
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: a room and every single person, doesn't matter who you are,

1052
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: gets the same attention. And Garth looks you in the

1053
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: eye and he spends time. And when Garth leaves, you go.

1054
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: That was amazing. Yeah, And I think Taylor Swift learned

1055
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: from Garth. And I'm just trying to like get his

1056
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: crumbles and like I just want to learn, you know,

1057
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: did anyone take kind of take you under the wing?

1058
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: A bit or at least go Brad, this is what's

1059
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen, like other artists who would be like, this

1060
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: is what you gotta do?

1061
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: Or was that kind of not cool? Then I never

1062
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: knew a whole lot of him. I never knew like

1063
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: a ton of artists. But I guess the people that

1064
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: you meet along the way do do kind of let you,

1065
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: let you uh, let you have some info. And but

1066
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: we had the unity of there early in our career

1067
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: to to work with Alex Leison.

1068
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: He produced a couple of b size for us and

1069
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: guitar player for.

1070
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: Rush and and he had some pretty interesting conversations with him.

1071
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: And he's a great, great guy.

1072
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I think what meant more to me

1073
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: than anything was I was very fortunate to me like

1074
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: you say that that Garthur comes into a room and

1075
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: he's like everybody gets attention, and he's a he's like

1076
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: a real person. And I was very fortunate to be

1077
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: around some just for moments here and there, like really

1078
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: famous people like that and see that, just get a

1079
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: chance to see that.

1080
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: Wow, it's just he's just a dude. Du Yeah, just

1081
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: a freaking dude.

1082
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: Fans make us who we are man, I'm just before

1083
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: when I got signed, I drove a forklift, and before that,

1084
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: I drove a bush haul tractor.

1085
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: I'd mode tank fields.

1086
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: And I am so thankful I get to play in

1087
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: a rock band for a living.

1088
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Just humans, exactly. Yeah, it's crazy that it other people

1089
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: that make other people. Like Garth is just a good

1090
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: dude who has a skill at being somebody else may

1091
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: have a skill of like a brain surgeon, you know,

1092
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: at learning how how math works. They don't get that

1093
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: because people don't make them that. Imagine a math if

1094
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: in America, if people that did good math were celebrities,

1095
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: our country be way ahead of China. They're checking our

1096
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: butts right now. Exactly. So we need we need like

1097
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: we need to start a movement to make mathematicians cool.

1098
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Get us out, get us up and out of there. Wait,

1099
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: so you did you know folk left where you do that?

1100
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: Down in pasta goople of Mississippi.

1101
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: At Electric Motor Shop, I've cleaned like electric motor we

1102
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: rebuilt electric motors and things like that, and so I

1103
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: cleaned parts and and bed blast them and stuff like that,

1104
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: but mainly probably drove the more than anything.

1105
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Could you hop back on one right? Now and felt

1106
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: like a bike you could. I have two jackers at home.

1107
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: I stay on all the time. Let me ask you

1108
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: a simple one. Where did the name come from? Three

1109
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: doors down? It came off of an old boarded up building, honest.

1110
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: Actually, we we used to go down to Golf Shores

1111
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: a lot, which is like the Beats down in Alabama,

1112
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: but pretty close to where we grew up.

1113
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: And driving down there, you went through a little town.

1114
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 2: That was just full of fruit stands and there would

1115
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: be several of those were fruit stands in one building.

1116
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: And we had a gig, like our first show that

1117
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: night coming back and we didn't have a name, and

1118
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: we had like a notebook full of names. And one

1119
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: of those buildings had closed up and moved just a

1120
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: couple of parcels down and there was like tack on

1121
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: wooden letters that said, you know, business move like so

1122
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: many doors down and someone falling off or whatever. And

1123
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: there was three of us at the time, and Todd said,

1124
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: well what about three doors down? And we're like all right,

1125
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: and it just kind of stuck.

1126
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: So like the first real name you came up with,

1127
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: you kept, well, that's odd. Most bands are like, well,

1128
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: our first name was the Wiener Jumpers, but we didn't

1129
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: like that, so then we decided to go with the

1130
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Tonail Kids, and we didn't like that. Next thing, you

1131
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: know here we are you two, like that was weird hot.

1132
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: But that's the first name you guys had, huh first name.

1133
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: And it's the only band I've ever been in. I've

1134
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: never been in another band. And you wrote those songs

1135
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 1: in high school. And look at you. You look happy. Man.

1136
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm blissed because I am. I have

1137
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: not that talented. I feel so inferior with the same age,

1138
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: and he's like I had a rock star live man.

1139
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: Look at you. Good to see you, my friends, you

1140
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: can see you two. All right. That's it. Thank you

1141
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Speaker 1: very much. This has been a Bobby Cast production.