1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: M celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Do you well, Jackuars? 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Did you Jack Jaguars? Did you Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan 3 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Sex Steps, John o Jo Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: right now. Good morning, and welcome to Jack's Drive Time 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: in this Thursday Morning brought to you by Fields Auto Group. 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: And we said this week wouldn't have any drama or 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: anything like that, but we started the show with a 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey update. So ap News tweeted out this story 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: late last night that Sean Khan told AP News that 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey in his mind, would not be traded. They 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: want him to stay with the team. They're trying to 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: work things out. We've been talking about this for the 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: past week or so that we thought it was going 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: this way, but to see it in writing solidifies what 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: we have been thinking that Sjalen Ramsey is gonna be 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: a Jaguar for the near future. Yeah. If um, if 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: someone offered a herschel Walker sort of you can't turn 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: it down trade then I imagine that Mr Khan would 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: see the value in that. But we're talking about your 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: best player, um, and a guy who changes the game. 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I think maybe I mentioned this yesterday. If he plays 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: in that game in Denver, you're not having to win 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: at the end because he takes Courtland Sutton out of 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: the game entirely. He doesn't have one touchdown, let alone too. Uh. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: And that allows a j boy to take Emmanuel Sanders 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: and Trey Herndon isn't pushed. Uh. That's how important he is. 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: And it's just if you own the football team, are 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: you gonna let the best player, a generational player, a 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: guy that you can't find any year, let alone every year. Um, 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna walk. No, there's no chance. You have all 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the leverage in the deal. And so you're just gonna 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: calmly say what mr concept, which is he has great 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: value to us. We're expressing that to him. We'll get 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: past this. I want him to be a Jaguar um. 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: That to me, Ashton is the best outcome of this 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: because it indicates that they're going to figure out a 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: way too. You know, when you and I fight, which 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: we do all the time. I don't know whether people 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: know that or not, but we just we go aty. 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: We just she throws staplers across the office. But we 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: do find a way to come on the show every 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: morning and smile and get along, right kidding, But the 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: reality of it is is that you do have people 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: in every walk of life, in every work environment, where 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: there are disagreements. Jalen said, you know when respect is lost. Well, 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that respect was lost. Jalen reacted angrily 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: right on the sidelines, and everyone's assuming it's Tom Coughlin 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: who who dressed him down in the locker room after 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: the game. And I think that's probably a fair assumption. 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: But whoever it was, or they overreacted, So did they 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: do anything worse than Jalen did? Right? Right? So from 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that perspective, can't two people get together and have a 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: conversation about how to go forward? And I think that's 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: what Mr Khan is doing, is he's letting the emotion 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: of the moment get away. Because if you make a 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: business decision and let emotion drive it, someone is losing badly, 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: right one of the other sides. He's winning big and 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: the other is losing badly. Um And I love the approach. 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: It's so calm. I'm not a calm person by nature. 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I can't always do this, but I can admire it. 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: From others. The emotions have definitely subside, I think, especially 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: from Jalen's point, and we talked about whether the respect 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: was there or not. And I feel like, especially this 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: past week, the Jaguars have definitely had Jalen's back on 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: him going to Nashville to be with this daughter, the 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: back injury, sitting out for his first start. I didn't 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: hear a lot of criticism over the brinkstruck and that 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: probably that grated I know that grated on people. Uh, 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: And you have Mr Ghan saying and he's going to 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: be compensated. So the reality of it is is that 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't a lack of respect. It was an emotional 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: reaction on both sides part at the time, they're letting 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: it go away. And like the hole in the dry 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: wall above my desk. Uh, you know you can fix that, Yes, 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: so you can. All right, let's get into big things, 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one is passed and rush throwing 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the ball. You better protect this quarterback, gardnerments Panthers have 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: fourteen sacks the last two weeks. You also have to 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: pay attention to Greg Olsen and Christian McCaffrey, James O'Shaughnessy 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: tells us this might be the best defense they've seen 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: all season. Oh, they're a great deal. You know. The 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: front seven is probably the best we've seen yet. Um, 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: they got playmakers all across it. Um they got fifty 84 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: nine in the show. Who's you know, sideline to sideline 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: every play. Um, So it's gonna be a really good 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: challenge for us. Big thing too, is the backup battle. 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: Not many of us thought when this matchup would come 88 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: in Week five you'd see Kyle Allen and Gardner Minshew 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: as the starting quarterbacks. But you have to think maybe 90 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: both teams at this point are much better than most 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: of us thought in Week five. And Big Thing three 92 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: is still the one for net versus McCaffrey. Jack took 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: for Nett, but McCaffrey is the NFL's leading rusher through 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: four games this season. Rushing numbers are similar, but if 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: you look at receiving, Christian McCaffrey is winning that well. 96 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: And and to be fair to Fournett, the Panthers use him, 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: and if the Jaguars had taken McCaffrey, they would be 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: using him the exact same way. I mean, you're talking 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: about the difference between a bull and a gazelle, right. 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is Earl Campbell, a bull type running back. 101 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: He puts his head down and runs over people. Just 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: go back to the way that he played last week 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: in that long eighty one yard run, and now you 104 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: get McCaffrey, who is incredibly difficult to catch. Take all 105 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: the young lions on the defense, and they're chasing this 106 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: gazelle all over the field. I think last week he 107 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: had a hundred and fifty all purpose yards, more than 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: seventy rushing, more than eight receiving, and a touchdown. So 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: here are the numbers real quick. Here's the difference between them. 110 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: UM rushing McCaffrey is averaging four point six yards per 111 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: carrying and scored thirteen touchdowns and as forty five rushing 112 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: yards UM Leonard has eighty three in only five games. 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: By the way, leonards played twenty five. McCaffrey's played thirty six, 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: UM eight eighty three. He's averaging four yards to carry, 115 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: he has fourteen touchdowns, So those are incredibly similar numbers. 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: The difference is McCaffrey is two and twelve catches in 117 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: thirty six games and eleven receiving touchdowns. Leonard has only 118 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: seventy four catches for six hundred yards, a third of 119 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: the yardage total and only two touchdowns. It's just a 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: he's been healthier eleven more games and they have not 121 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: used Leonard in the same way. But they didn't draft 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Lender to do that. So in terms of the impact 123 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: on the franchise, well right now and in Leonard's impact 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: was exactly what the Jaguars wanted. McCaffrey's has been more consistent. Yeah, 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: we'll hear more next um block around to hear from 126 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Jim Zokie in Charlotte. But you gotta think with the 127 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Camp Newton issue and that was so weird how that 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: was handled, and now he's injured, Christian McCaffrey is their 129 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: go to guys off Well, first of all, everything about 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Cam Newton is weird. Did you see him after the 131 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: loss to the Buccaneers wearing the scarf and looking Susan 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Surrandon from He always has the outfits. The hats one thing, 133 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: the scarf is another one entirely. Yeah, he's different. So 134 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the Alan kid has not um He's not let the 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: world on fire in back to back weeks. He doesn't 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: have the the drama of min Shu mania. But he 137 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: had four touchdown passes in Caroline. I'm sorry. In Arizona 138 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: against the Pardners last week, he fumbled a couple of times, 139 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: didn't have any touchdowns, so you didn't have a great 140 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: quarterback rating. Um, But then that was a game where 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: I think they scored what four field goals? Right, it 142 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: was not they won and that's the important thing. This 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: team did not win in Houston. They had a chance. 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: So um, what was at the top. I want to 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: go back the passing, the rush, So obviously they have 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: got to get after the quarterback. They have to. They 147 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: have got to get after that kid. They had two 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: guys on their injury report this week, a guard and 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: attackle Greg Little, the rookie, the second round pick uh 150 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: was in the concussion protocol, played his first game last 151 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: week in Houston. Is back in the concussion protocol. And 152 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: the right guard, Trade Turner, another one. This defensive line 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: got no pressure, no significant pressure at all. We talked 154 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: about the feast and fans on Joe Flacco. You must 155 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: get the pressure. You must because Greg Olsen and McCaffrey 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: are such incredible weapons and they have the the the 157 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: young receiver from d J Moore from care not from 158 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: from Maryland, good players all over the place. You better 159 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: get to this quarterback. He's young, he's not his experienced, 160 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: his Flacco. If you can get to him, get to him. Yes, 161 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was funny. Um. We talked about the 162 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: impact Calais Campbell has around the league and how other 163 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: teams talk about him. A bunch of guys were asked 164 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: about Luke Kickley, the linebacker yesterday in the locker room, 165 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: and it was a similar approach to how you hear 166 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: guys talk about Calais. Was talking to Quincy Williams about him. 167 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: He's like, man, I've grown up my whole life watching him. 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: To be able to play against him is so cool 169 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: to me. It was just funny because you hear guys 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: talk about Klais like that, Luke Keickley is there, Calais, 171 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: He's uh, he's Paula's Lesnie. You know, I mean he 172 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: no fans paul He's probably a little bigger, a little 173 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: faster Pauplas Lesnie. And what's interesting about him is earlier 174 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: in his career struggled with concussion and people thought that 175 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: this is going to be a great player whose careers 176 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: cut short because linebackers are always in the middle of 177 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: the biggest collisions on the field, and yet he has 178 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: found a way to take care of himself. He is 179 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: a prose pro just like the Las Campbell. That's a 180 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: good comparison, absolutely all right. When we come back a 181 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers preview Jim Zoki in Charlotte, North Carolina. 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On Sunday, the Jaguars will play the 210 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: Caro lineup Panthers. Both teams got to think a lot 211 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: of throwbacks going on with that game. As we welcome 212 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: in Jim Zoki with w b T w F m 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Z Radio in Charlotte. Jim, how's it going doing great games? 214 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: What are you're doing Jim z Oki, how are you, 215 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: pal Brian, the original voice of the Jaguars. It's been 216 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: twenty five years. Yeah, you've gotten old and you oh yeah, 217 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: well as you know. Hey, look when you work with 218 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: someone who is who wasn't born you are. How old 219 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: were you when when in July a couple months? Yeah, 220 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: I see what I mean. It keeps you young. I 221 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: was just about to tell go ahead. Has been like 222 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: sharing memories of her early memories of the Jaguars expansion 223 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: season all morning. I'll tell you that Jim and I 224 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: first met in the press box at Fawcett Field, the 225 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: old Fawcett Field, at the Hall of Fame, when the 226 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars and Panthers squared off in n the very first 227 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: game Jim, and since then, this game Sunday Um for 228 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars is game five hundred and four. It's just 229 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: hard to believe it's been that long. It is. And 230 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, no matter whatever happens in the rest of 231 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: these franchises history, the Panthers will always have won that 232 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. And can You'll never get that 233 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: one game. We owned that game. You can't have it. 234 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I love it version the rivalry is still there. Um, 235 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: so give me a sense of where this Panther's team is. 236 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: I know I saw the look on the face of 237 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera after the loss to Tampa at home. Uh, 238 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: the injury to Cam Newton, and you're thinking, you know, 239 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: is anything gonna go right here this season? And you 240 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: put a rookie quarterback in and we know something about that. Well, 241 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: the first year quarterback for you guys, and Kyle Allen, 242 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're two and two and right 243 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: back on your feet in a competitive division. Yeah, very 244 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: similar storyline, not like a Mania type of story. But quietly, 245 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen lights up that first game in Arizona, four 246 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: touchdown passes and then last week just in terms of 247 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: the passing game, managed it, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Of course, 248 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: the bumbles, three bumbles on three quarterback sex and obviously 249 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: they've been working overtime on getting that problem corrected, which 250 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: he just deal us on that step with a young quarterback. 251 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: But you know, he's got poise, He's got a lot 252 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: of swagger and confidence about himself. People don't know that 253 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: he was the number one high school recruit coming out 254 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: of high school and Scottsdale Arizona. Everybody wanted him, just 255 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: was one of those kids that bounced around from Texas 256 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: A and under. Houston came to the pros early and 257 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: he knew he would go undrafted he did, but he 258 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: always believed in himself and he's showing the world that 259 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: he at least is a competent player. To this point 260 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: in the NFL. We don't know what his ceiling is. 261 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch and no dealing with some injuries. 262 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Of course, trade turn it in practice again yesterday, Grank 263 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Little and Brookie offensive tackles. I left tackle last week, 264 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: is in concussion protocol for a second time. And we 265 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: put our Pro Bowl and defensive Lindman KK Short on 266 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: the interviews eerved this week. So Panther's got our dealing 267 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: with a number of the injuries all of a sudden 268 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: over the past couple of days. So I just know 269 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: we had a picture of him up on the screen. 270 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: He's got a little scruffy facial here. He needs to 271 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: work on his mustache game. Well, you can't steal it. 272 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of the fans and Jackson they 273 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: are probably stealing that musta should support of the Jaguars, 274 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: but Kyle Allen's going to be his own dude, and uh, 275 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: I think you know, he is very low key, like 276 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: he's got a swagger in the confidence, but he is 277 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: not looking for public MSA. Gargnerments who he is looking 278 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: for that necessarily, But that's that's kind of Kyle Allen's personality. 279 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: How has he handled you know, he's on a team 280 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: with some superstars now, I mean McCaffrey is a household 281 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: name and Olsen is too. I really like what you're 282 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: getting from d J. Moore And of course on the 283 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, there are some big personalities 284 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: over there as well. You know in Jacksonville because we 285 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: have the similarity. Uh, they are captivated by by Minshew. 286 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean when he brought them back last week with 287 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: the touchdowns in the third quarter, there was a line 288 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: of players who wanted to congratulate him. How have the 289 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: veterans and Kyle Allen um come together? It's been fun 290 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: to watch because you know, we started the season, like 291 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: you guys, there were two losses and Cam was you know, 292 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: out there kind of tooling around on a bad foot 293 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: and didn't run at all. Wasn't playing like Cam Newton 294 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: at all. And so not his fault. But then Kindle 295 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Allen comes in a week three and immediately put some 296 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: points up in that game and the bench is going crazy. 297 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: And five there was like his energy that they just 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of surrounded this reinvigoration had kind of Alan out 299 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: there at quarterback, so they've quickly brought him in. It's 300 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: great holding a vetter again, like Gregor Olson has been 301 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: around so long, because we know there's time. So they'll 302 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: come out of the huddle, they'll line up and somebody 303 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: will be not at the right spot or even Kyle 304 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Allen is an exactly shore we're so supposed to be 305 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: and Greg almost like the backup quarterback there. I tell you, 306 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: then we'll redirect somebody to where they're supposed to be 307 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: for a certain play. Those there's still a certain amount 308 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of learning that's going on with him in North Turns offense. 309 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: But you know you're dealing with up basically, you said 310 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: almost a rookie, you gol had the three starts in 311 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: this league over two years, and you just got some 312 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: growing pains and now that's that could be perfect. You're 313 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: just trying to do enough to win the game. Watching 314 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: the All or Nothing series on Amazon. I now like 315 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Greg Olson more than I ever did. His personality cracks 316 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: me up. I didn't know much about him, but after 317 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: watching that show, was like, wow, that is a funny 318 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: guy to be around. Uh. Cam Newton. From the beginning 319 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: of the season, he's he's not injured. Now he is injured. 320 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: What's the timeline with him coming back if he does? 321 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: You know one thing that coach Are Barry's asked about 322 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: every single week says there is no time table, and 323 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: he's not have been putting it like as a week 324 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: to week. You just will say there's no timetable. When 325 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: he's healthy. He's healthy, and so at this point he's 326 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: doing its Frank's quick injury. Um, yeah, I guess they're 327 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: they're secretive because there are a lot to be secretive 328 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: about it. Did they have to tell you he's got 329 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: to put injury that's why he's out. But they're not 330 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: obligated to go in detail, and they don't have an answer. 331 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: It's not like say a high ankle spraining. We just 332 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: kinda know it's gonna be four or five, six weeks 333 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. They said, basically when he feels healthy enough, 334 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: because uh, you know what came rely relies on a 335 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: lot is his athleticism and his ability to run. So 336 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: if he can't do that, uh, he becomes one dimensional 337 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: and not nearly as effective. And of course he affects 338 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: your pantsing game as well. So no timetable to answer 339 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: your question. We'll see And in the meanwhile, we're kind 340 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: of living week to week with kind of allan. I 341 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: don't know what their broad perspective is on that, but 342 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, they've won two in a row and got 343 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: got a hot hand drawing right now, we know the 344 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: week to week feeling, that's for sure. Hey tell us 345 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: about the loss of Kuan Short, who's you know, in 346 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: all Pro caliber player, but the defense has been terrific. 347 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that this has been an ongoing thing with 348 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: Short that generally happens with the shoulder injuries. How much 349 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: of a contribution did they get from him before they 350 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: put him on IR this week? And does it show 351 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: the depth of this defensive front that they've played well 352 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: and he hasn't been a percent Yeah, it is because 353 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: they've got four teen sacks in the last two games 354 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: and so they've been playing great. That's what Okay, one 355 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: shore who was in the Pro Pole last year and 356 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, one of the best defensive tackles 357 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: in this link. So you don't want to lose Some 358 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: of the good news is what they did this all season. 359 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's go out and address pass rush. And the biggest movie, 360 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: of course they made was bringing in Joe McCoy from 361 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay after nine years there, spent their first round 362 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: pick on Brian Burns right and Bruce Irvin the Floomers 363 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: Seahawk Riter Falcon, and so it's it's like the second 364 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: unit comes in and in no particular order or mix 365 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: and match and three four and four three and you 366 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: can't tell him. Last week, burn and Butler at the 367 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: biggest play strip Sablo turned the game around and uh, 368 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you know the guy they're activating our practice by Ryan 369 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: Cox Jr. Was active for some games last year and 370 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: he's a pass rusher. But guys most people outside of 371 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Carolina haven't heard of, like Marquis Haynes, a f a obada. 372 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: You know, they come in and they can make some 373 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: them big plays, and they just have to make their contribution. 374 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: They don't have to be Mario Anderson, who is our 375 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: best quarterback snapper. He's got five and a half he's 376 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: got five in the last two games, and uh and 377 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: he's one of the best the Panthers have ever head 378 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: at that position. So by committee, but a really good 379 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: committee over the county players up front. I've got one 380 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: more for you, Jim. So. We were in the locker 381 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: room yesterday and whenever we talked about Calais Campbell and 382 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: we hear what other teams think of him, we always 383 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: hear what great honor and just great positivity he has 384 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: around the league. And we were talking about Luke Kickley, 385 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: and all of the guys in the Jaguars locker room 386 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: were saying how excited they were to play against him 387 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: and how they've been watching him when they grew up. 388 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: In no offense to Luke, but if it was me, 389 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: I would kind of feel old with that because Quincy 390 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Williams was telling us how he's growing up his entire 391 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: life watching Luke Kickley. What's it like to have a 392 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: guy like that so steady, even kill, a guy you 393 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: can always count on With the Panthers, he is just 394 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: the real deal. I mean, he's obviously one of the best, 395 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: is not the best tacklers in pro football. He is 396 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: a film study, junkie, I mean he just you saw 397 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: the Amazon series. I mean that's real, and that's all 398 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: the time. I mean, he studies like a coach and 399 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: those tendencies, and he'll make some big plays that are 400 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: basically strictly from us additional film study that he does. 401 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: So he's smart, he's intuitive, he's athletic. He came out 402 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: of Boston College as a leading tackler in the nation twice. 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: But he was viewed as a first and second down guy, 404 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: that he would tackle a running back with the last 405 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: coup off feel a third down in the pros, and 406 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: he proved from day one in the pros that is 407 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: not the case. He's a sidelined to sideline guy. He's 408 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: very good in past coverage. He's able to get after 409 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback as they sent a monoplitz and again, like 410 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned greg Ols, again, that'll set the defense out 411 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: there and he'll line people up the right way. So 412 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: he knows his job, your job, and every one of 413 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the eleven job on the defensive side out there, and 414 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: he just backs it up with being a six on 415 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: top of that, which, by the way, is just how 416 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: Jim Zoki has handled the entire broadcast booth for twenty 417 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: five years. It doesn't matter who the play by play 418 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: guys been, who the talent has been. Jim can do 419 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: their jobs. He can do the sidelines, he can do 420 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: the pregame, you can do the post game. Yeah, he 421 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: can do it all. Uh. You know, a good friend 422 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: of mine and a longtime NFL gentleman who has retired 423 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: and now living in the Carolina Is once said to me, 424 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: it's the memories that make us rich. It's the people 425 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: that you meet along the way that add the greatest value, 426 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: that tell the greatest stories that make you feel like 427 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: you've really done something in this league. And Jim Zoki 428 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: is one of those guys. Jim, thanks so much for 429 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: your time. Guys have an appreciate Yeah, right, well we'll 430 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: see in the press box. Yeah, exactly right, fair enough, 431 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: we'll see a Sunday Jim, sounds good. 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Because the guys were back yesterday after a 466 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: victory Monday day off Tuesday, it was a minshoe field 467 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: locker room because of course, what else would be going 468 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: on right now? Is there anything going on to Jacksonville 469 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: other than Gardner minship. As I was coming over the 470 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: inter Coastal Bridge Atlantic this morning, there's this great big 471 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: picture of him and I saw, I means a billboard child, 472 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: And I have to say again, you know, before the 473 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Falcons game, we talked to Doug in a production meeting 474 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: for our television broadcast and he said, this kid still 475 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: has to prove to me he can be my backup. 476 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: And to see that picture this morning, it puts everything 477 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: into perspective. But a few weeks can do. It's an 478 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: amazing story. It's amazing. And speaking of that doubt in 479 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: the preseason, we talked to Gardnerment too in the press 480 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: conference and he said, the doubters and nonbelievers, the haters, 481 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: as the kids call him, you don't pay attention to them. No, 482 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: I just gotta play, um, complete balls, throw it on time, 483 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: you know, do my job, um, because at the end 484 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: of the day, I got guts here that count on 485 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: me and I don't have anything to do with anybody else. 486 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: That's all you need to know, only the locker room. 487 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: And you know I drove. I parked this morning and 488 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: I parked right next to him. And I don't park 489 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: in the player's corral, right, you don't know, I don't. 490 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: It's amazing, right You think they give that to me 491 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: after twenty five years or they don't, And I'm good 492 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: with that. But the point is is that he doesn't either. 493 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: And I started starting quarterback. He could very easily park 494 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: wherever he wants right other than Mr con spot Um. 495 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: But he doesn't he And I think that to me. 496 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: When I saw that this morning, I went, Okay, I 497 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: like this because it says he's not gotten too full 498 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: of himself. Uh. They don't let rookies park in that 499 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: corral until they make the team. Well, you're not just 500 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: you didn't make the team. You are making the team 501 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: right now. You easily could parked in a lot. You 502 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: are making the season with the way that you're playing. 503 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: Because if he came in and played like you did 504 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: in the preseason and Nick Foles is down, we're talking 505 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: about oh and four seasons already over and it's Daddy 506 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: has not just got you to two and two and 507 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: the season is far from over. Um, but he has 508 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: given your team everything it needs, including marketing right selling tickets. 509 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: They are selling tickets for the Saints game. Absolutely if 510 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: you want to come to that game, by the way, 511 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: you might want to get your tickets now because it's 512 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: all the romania everywhere. It's no, it is. It is 513 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: true that he easily and you think with all the 514 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: success he's had in the past couple of weeks, you'd 515 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: see most people change from that. He is not, and 516 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: almost it's like he doesn't want that attention on him. 517 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: A bunch of the questions in the press comments were 518 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: about the mustache and everything's going on with the marketing. 519 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Since you say that his answers are he answers the question. 520 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: He answers it directly. He has a little bit of 521 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: fun with it. But he doesn't stand there and pontificate 522 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: like some people do. He gets in, he answers your question, 523 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: he moves on. It's almost as if he is trying 524 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: to deflect it. Right right, He's still gonna wear the 525 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: headband and the mustache and the sunglasses and the gene 526 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: sh hurts um. He's still gonna do that. But he doesn't. 527 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't need you or I to care, or to 528 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: lie get or to want to look like that in 529 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: order for him to be him. He's just him. He 530 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: is genuine. Someone asked me the other day, who is he? 531 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: To me? He's Ken Stabler, the Hall of fame worthy 532 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: quarterback of the Oakland Raiders, who was a free spirit 533 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: baby and one of the best uh and a gun 534 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: slinger too. He was He was bred far before bred 535 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Farve and and Min choose the perfect blend of Farv. 536 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: Even though within at Farve's arm he's got the gun 537 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: slinger mentality and uh Stabler who's the free spirit? And 538 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: if I could choose two quarterbacks, free spirit is a 539 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: good way to put it. A J boy who is 540 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshoo's locker mate. He sits in between a J 541 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: boy and d. J. Chark said. The best thing about 542 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Gardner Man Shoo's he's been even keeled this entire time. 543 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: He know it was only first quarter to season. We 544 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: still got a long way to go. And just to 545 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: really not buy inte the hype or anything like that 546 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and just stay focused. That's a lot. You know, he's 547 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: next to me in DJ and the locker room, so 548 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: we see it every day and just to have that approach, 549 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, it shows that he's not complacent, he's still working, 550 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: and it just gives a good message to the whole 551 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: locker room to just keep working. Now, I wouldn't peg 552 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: for Boy and Garnerman should really hang out much together, 553 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: but because they are lockermates, you see the three of 554 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: them all the time together, Boy Gardnermans DJ Charker. You know, 555 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: after watching, after watching the players line up, you know 556 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: get in line literally like they're a kindergarten class on 557 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: the sideline. To congratulate him. Um, he's you know, he's 558 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: got that coolness to him because he's just so fun 559 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: to be around and himself at all times and not 560 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: overly inflated. There's not a lot of drama. You don't 561 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: have to really work to be friendly with him. Um, 562 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I can see where he could hang out with. You 563 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: name a player, Marcel Darius, a big defensive tackle, right, 564 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: you name it. I could see him going and hanging 565 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: out of the movies with marcelle I could too. And 566 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: finally we heard Dug Moron on Good Morning Football this 567 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: morning say he has trouble growing a mustache. You can't 568 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: really get into the mustache trend. DJ Chark is with 569 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: him could not grow on like Gardner has. I mean, 570 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: everybody don't have that talent. DJ was a little upset 571 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: about that he had to put on the fake one. 572 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: He told me before he put on the fake mustache 573 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: that he's been growing the mustache. He had under that 574 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: for twenty three years and it's about ten little hairs. 575 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: And he said, when I ripped this off, it's gone forever. 576 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: So thanks a lot for the fake mustache. As someone 577 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: who has to shave every morning, I would like to not, 578 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: but it just it's uncomfortable to me. I couldn't do it. Yeah, 579 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: DJ said he took one for the team and wanted 580 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: to play along, but he was a little upset that 581 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: that tenure mustache was. If this becomes some sort of 582 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a trend, fad craze, keep me out of it. You've 583 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: seen the locker room guys. I don't think the guys. 584 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we look good on Really, I've been trying. 585 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: You don't notice the different now. I think the people 586 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: closest to you would probably tell you the same thing. Really, 587 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: my dad was all for it. He said, you might 588 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: lose your job, but at least it's the friend. Think 589 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: that's the interesting one. I haven't asked, nor will I ever. 590 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: I love it. Independent, free spirit, that's right. That is me, 591 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: all right. 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Visit Experience pinpoint dot com. If we 619 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: have not talked about him enough, this show, Gardner Minshew 620 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: this morning, right before the show, was named NFL Offensive 621 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: of a Rookie of the Months, first time the Jaguars 622 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: have had a an offensive Rookie of the Month since 623 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Byron Lethwidge was a rookie in two thousand in three. 624 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: You did your research on this well, I know the 625 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: right press releases to read. Um, it's been a long 626 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: time and you know they've had some good young players. 627 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew was never named Offensive Rookie of the 628 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: mom I mean, who else are you gonna give it to? 629 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: You can't make an argument, no, no, no, no, no 630 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: no no, he's not the offensive player of the month 631 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: because a guy named Pat mahomes Uh stands at the 632 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: top of that list. But in terms of rookie performers, no, 633 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: he's taken it by storm. And not to mention a 634 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: great week for the Jaguars, you have Josh Lambo, a 635 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: f C Special Teams Player of the Week and a 636 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: week after um Calais Campbell was the a f C 637 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week. And look, the awards are nice. 638 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: I think the players would like it more if there 639 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: was cash involved. However, it's worth pointing out that when 640 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: you're winning awards individually, it's generally because your team is 641 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: performing at a high level. Minshew was playing well in 642 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: the two losses to Kansas City in Houston, Calais has 643 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: played well throughout and obviously Lambeau has been money. So 644 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: if you have guys winning individual awards your team is 645 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: doing well. Absolutely no, you can't win them without a 646 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: team win. You have to think if the Jaguars don't 647 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: get it done in Denver, does Gardner win this award 648 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: with that final drive and everything existing? I think the 649 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: final drive was the match that led the flame. Absolutely Alright, 650 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: Stay tuned on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Social media 651 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: coordinators Speak today. We'll be back on the practice field, 652 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Happy Hour and the Dug Round Show this afternoon. Jaguars 653 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: All Access tonight. It's a busy day here in jack Lands. 654 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Get them go, get them see you tomorrow.