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Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello listeners. In today's bonus episode, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking with one of my parents friends from the counterculture,

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Speaker 1: a psychedelic pioneer I call far Out. So what are

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Speaker 1: your last thoughts you're on far Out? Any last things?

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Speaker 1: Want to tell us about far Out? Since we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell his story on this podcast, It's interesting from me,

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Speaker 1: I would say far Out was the epitome of the

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Speaker 1: left wing politico hippie who started out as a left

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Speaker 1: wing intellectual and ended up as a hippie, super duper

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Speaker 1: pot smoking guy who in fact, I mean he was

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Speaker 1: the epitome. He sold like ounces and nickel bags and

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, so he really supplied it to

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Speaker 1: the people. A ground floor member of San Francisco's counterculture,

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Speaker 1: far Out was the manager of a world famous San

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Speaker 1: Francisco rock and roll band, and like many of the

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Speaker 1: psychedelic Pioneers, he's a nice Jewish boy. He's from Chicago

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Speaker 1: and landed in San Francisco's North Beach in the early sixties,

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Speaker 1: where he became friends with my mom. San Francisco's North

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Speaker 1: Beach neighborhood was ground zero for the city's iconic beat

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Speaker 1: nicks and the alternative art, literary, music, and comedy scene

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Speaker 1: before it morphed into the famed counter culture and moved

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Speaker 1: to the hate Ashbury neighborhood in the late sixties. Now,

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Speaker 1: for his entire adult life, far Out has been in

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Speaker 1: love with my mom's best friend from her North Beach

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Speaker 1: belly dancing days, and far Out spent lots of time

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Speaker 1: around my mom's best friend's communal table, a famous gathering

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Speaker 1: spot for future famed musicians like the Anonymous Artists of

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Speaker 1: America and the Quicksilver Poster artists like Stanley Mouse, Nelton Kelly,

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Speaker 1: plus actors, writers and smugglers who gathered to smoke doobies,

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Speaker 1: schmooz and eat Chinese food and hippie stew and people

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Speaker 1: always like just went to the table, rolled joints and

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Speaker 1: drank coffee, rolled and smoke joints and drank coffee and

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Speaker 1: just bullshitting like all the and all these like all

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Speaker 1: the time. It was like it was it was like

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Speaker 1: a coffee house. So it was somebody's house right now.

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Speaker 1: My mom's best friend's table is the same place where

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Speaker 1: my dad met my mom in nineteen seventy and where

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Speaker 1: Dad met far Out, So that was a famous table

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Speaker 1: by the time I got there. Oh yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got there late. Yeah, you got the table late, dad later. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: although far Out primarily worked in rock and roll, he

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Speaker 1: had one good story about pot smuggling through Mexico over

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Speaker 1: the Rio Grande. I'm Rainbow Valentine. This is disorganized crime

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Speaker 1: smuggler's daughter going to do young, free and groovy, making

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Speaker 1: it up. We rolled along a country gang New York State,

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Speaker 1: making it up as we roll. Oh my god, Oh

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Speaker 1: can I have just taken a trip through the city

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Speaker 1: San Francisco to get to the Castro, which is an

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Speaker 1: awesome neighborhood. I'm gonna ring the doorbell. Oh, here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I went to far Out's apartment in San Francisco. Now

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Speaker 1: in his eighties. Far Out has been a small time

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Speaker 1: pot dealer for over sixty years, and he might be

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Speaker 1: one of the last meaning psychedelic pioneers still living in

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Speaker 1: going in, All right, how are you? I call him

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Speaker 1: And since I say far Out all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably Shay far Out one hundred and two times

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Speaker 1: a day. Now, far Out was never a true smuggler.

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Speaker 1: He was a band manager with a pot dealing side hustle.

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Speaker 1: But being a true psychedelic pioneer, he did one smuggling

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Speaker 1: trip and he told me about it while sitting in

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Speaker 1: his tiny apartment full of pot paraphernalia and iconic memorabilia

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Speaker 1: from his life amongst San Francisco's music superstars. His one

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Speaker 1: smuggling trip happened to be some of the best pot

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Speaker 1: And I've been smoking pot since fifty seven, So what

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Speaker 1: so I consider my judgment pretty good. It was the

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Speaker 1: best Mexican pot that I ever smoked in my life. Now,

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Speaker 1: being in his eighties, far Out is vague on details

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Speaker 1: like who asked him to supervise the trip, But remember

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Speaker 1: probably another psychedelic pioneer. Also in rock and roll, they

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Speaker 1: of the most beautiful Mexican pot. And they had already

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Speaker 1: bought really thick clear plastic vinyl. They'd bought sheets and

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Speaker 1: had us operated into five piles of fifty pounds each

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Speaker 1: Each bundle was fifty pounds. So it was wrapped over

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Speaker 1: and over again with this vinyl because we were going

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Speaker 1: to cross it on the river under Rio Grande. Now

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Speaker 1: leading to tariffs. Rio Grande borderland residents seeking to avoid

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Speaker 1: adopting smuggling routes previously used as escapeways by Texas slave

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Speaker 1: had a plan. Far Out would drive a wrapped cube

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Speaker 1: of two hundred and fifty pounds of pot one thousand

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Speaker 1: So we started out. I start out. I had a

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Speaker 1: Out far Out finished his tacos and moved on smoking

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Speaker 1: I'm walking downstairs to meet my friends and have breakfast.

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Speaker 1: in the middle, as I'm walking down, I see a

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Speaker 1: picture of yellow as Abotta, an old hero of mine.

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Speaker 1: He led the Mexican Revolution in the early ye twentieth century,

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Speaker 1: And as I'm walking down the stairs and I'm approaching

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Speaker 1: brick wall. For me, this was even more of an

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Speaker 1: Zapota stood. This blew my mind. Even now, I get

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Speaker 1: the chills thinking about it. I'm Rainbow Valentine. This is

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Speaker 1: disorganized crime. We'll be right back. After spending the night

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty miles. They showed up. I finished up,

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Speaker 1: That evening, we wound up together at a motel in Metamoros.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wait till midnight to do the smuggle on

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Speaker 1: the Rio Grande. We drive in my rented car to

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Speaker 1: land part is holding it in place. We've got a

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Speaker 1: in the hands of our Texas physicists friend who's at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the river. He's better walkie talkie with him,

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Speaker 1: in touch with him. He's under the water. We're on

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Speaker 1: We're in touch by wakie talkie. But also what we

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Speaker 1: hear on our waukie talkie is the Matamoros police radio.

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Speaker 1: They're all talking in Spanish, and almost every other word

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Speaker 1: is marijuana. With every other word marijuana, we were sort

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Speaker 1: of uptight. We couldn't were so black on the beach

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Speaker 1: without their lights on. And you know what marijuana are

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Speaker 1: they talking about? Are they talking about suspicion of us

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Speaker 1: disorganized crime for sure. Meanwhile, the Texas crew drove the

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