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Speaker 1: those are positive tests. They're not close contexts, are mostly positives.

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Speaker 1: The good news is many many of them are asymptomatic cases.

425
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Speaker 1: So that's good that the guys are not sick, you know.

426
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,719
Speaker 1: But the bad news is they're they're still testing positive

427
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: and so they're probably going to miss games. Kevin Stefans

428
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: gave the Browns coach that he's just announced that he

429
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: tested positive the second time he has COVID. He just

430
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Speaker 1: had his booster shot. So you know, the NFL is

431
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: sort of caught in this situation where they're doing everything

432
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Speaker 1: they can, you know, and league officials are talking to

433
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Speaker 1: team officials. They talked to them yesterday at the Labor seminar,

434
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Speaker 1: and they're going to talk to the owners today basically

435
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: saying like, you know, we have to hunker down here

436
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Speaker 1: and tighten up because we got we got through this

437
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: last year and we didn't have a vaccine. We knew

438
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: so much less about the virus at that point, but

439
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: they got through the season on time, and we're so

440
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: close to the end now, They certainly don't want to

441
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Speaker 1: have to push games around, so you know they're going

442
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: to tighten up, that's for sure. Yeah, And I find

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Speaker 1: it interesting you mentioned the extra measures that they put

444
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Speaker 1: in place Thanksgiving week and then right after an anticipation

445
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: of some kind of surge with all the family gatherings

446
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: that you're anticipating players, coaches, executives having. But this surge

447
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be in line with that based on

448
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: the timing, because we're like three weeks removed from Thanksgiving.

449
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Speaker 1: Does the data that the league has at their disposal

450
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: reveal any root cause? Are we blaming Omicron for this

451
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: or do they not have that data readily available yet now?

452
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Speaker 1: But what the league always says is that they are

453
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Speaker 1: generally ahead of what you see in the country, I

454
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: mean the country. We're seeing rising rates around the country.

455
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Speaker 1: Right it's winter, As we know, in many places, people

456
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: are indoors, more people are in close quarters more. I

457
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: got back to something Tom Brady, of all people, brought

458
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Speaker 1: up in training camp. He told a reporter in Tampa

459
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Speaker 1: that he thought that this season was actually going to

460
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Speaker 1: be more difficult than last season to get through because

461
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: he said, people are going to be out and doing

462
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: more stuff than they were last year. Right, you're behaving

463
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: more normally as sort of as if the pandemic is over,

464
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: and of course the pandemic is not over, and so

465
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Speaker 1: he thought that it would be more difficult if it

466
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Speaker 1: turns out he was right. I mean, that's exactly what

467
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Speaker 1: we're seeing when we ask the leagues. The one positive

468
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Speaker 1: note that the league brings up is when they do

469
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Speaker 1: the genomic sequencing, the virus is not spreading inside the buildings,

470
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Speaker 1: so that's good. There are not outbreaks within team facilities.

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Speaker 1: It's coming from community spread. It's coming because guys are

472
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Speaker 1: out in the community with their families. They are going

473
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Speaker 1: to restaurants, they're going to the movies, they're you know,

474
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Speaker 1: do a charity events, and so they're in contact with

475
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Speaker 1: members of the community. And then they get it and

476
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Speaker 1: bring it into the facility. So you know, the question

477
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Speaker 1: is what more can they do? You know, are they

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Speaker 1: going to go to mandatory mask squaring and the facilities

479
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Speaker 1: when they go back to Zoom meetings. You know, all

480
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Speaker 1: the things become very familiar with last year and haven't

481
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Speaker 1: really get to think about this here. You know, are

482
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Speaker 1: those things on the horizon as they try to get

483
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Speaker 1: through the final month of the regular season and into

484
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Speaker 1: the postseason. Yeah, and I realize it's kind of a

485
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Speaker 1: touchy issue for the league, But you can have all

486
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Speaker 1: the Tier one and Tier two people jumping through whatever

487
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Speaker 1: hoops you want them to, executives, coaches, etc. The players

488
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Speaker 1: here are the main issue because there you have to

489
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Speaker 1: collectively bargain whatever you would hope they'd be willing to do.

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Speaker 1: Is there any indication, judy that there is some nudging

491
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Speaker 1: on the part of the league to try to get

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Speaker 1: the players Association back to the bargaining table to address

493
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Speaker 1: this before it gets really out of control and we

494
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Speaker 1: see a situation where you've got NFL teams going to

495
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Speaker 1: play a game with twelve practice squad players on the

496
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Speaker 1: active roster. I can't imagine that's a recipe that any

497
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Speaker 1: owner would want. I'm just wondering is there any prodding

498
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Speaker 1: going on to maybe get the players back to the

499
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Speaker 1: bargaining table because we saw the push for daily testing again.

500
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: The league doesn't want to do that, probably because of

501
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: the costs involved, but at least they seem to be

502
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: willing on some level to do something else. Can they

503
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Speaker 1: get them back to the bargaining table. Do you think, well,

504
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: they have constant conversations with them on this topic especially,

505
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: and have had constant conversations, you know, over what's now

506
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: two years, so they're in constant communication about how to

507
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: proceed here. I think the bigger question is what can

508
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: they do at this point? You know, they've mandated for staff,

509
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: they've mandated the boosters. I think it's December twenty seven. Yes,

510
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, they're not mandating vaccine for players. They can

511
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: certainly encourage players to get vaccinated and then get the

512
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: booster if they're eligible for it. But I think the

513
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: more immediate question is what can they do in the

514
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: short term. I think this is a problem that's on

515
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: their doorstep right now, you know, and you've got what

516
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: is it, four weeks left in the regular season and

517
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: then into the postseason. We're so close to the end,

518
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: and so that's the much more pressing question is what

519
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: can they do right now? Do they basically say to

520
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: the players like sort of reeled it in, you know,

521
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: you're going to have to sort of go back to

522
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: being in your family bubble and not going out and

523
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: not doing all those events in public, and you know,

524
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Is that what our team is

525
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: going to have to say that to players? You know,

526
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: I go back to last year at around this time,

527
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the teams that knew they were getting into the playoffs

528
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: or that we're in the race for the playoff spot,

529
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: they sort of proactively on their own right tighten things up, right,

530
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean players. I remember Patrick Brome saying that at

531
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Speaker 1: the end of last season, he basically was going from

532
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: home to the team's facility, meetings, practiced, and then home

533
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: again like he did nothing else. And you heard that

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00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: from many players, And I suspect that that's probably for

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Speaker 1: teams that know they're on the way to the postseason

536
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: or trying to get to the postseason, I suspect they're

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Speaker 1: probably going to hear stories like that. Last one on

538
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Speaker 1: this issue is and I kind of feel bad for

539
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: these people. The coaches have virtually no voice in this

540
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: at all, and yet their job security could be most

541
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: greatly impacted by what does or does not happen, or

542
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: by what players choose to and not to do, and

543
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: a lot of them across the league have had to

544
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: walk this very fine line and interviews with the media

545
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: when this subject gets brought up. They're obviously not going

546
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: to have a voice in what comes down the pike

547
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: here in this imminent situation that needs to be addressed

548
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: so they can get through the regular season. I know

549
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: you talk to coaches from time to time. I'm sure

550
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot of those conversations are probably off the record.

551
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for identities of coaches. I'm just curious

552
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: if you've gotten any coaching feedback on how frustrating a

553
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: process and this has been, because it flies in the

554
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: face of everything that they preach to their teams about

555
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: the team concept sack, self sacrifice and all of that.

556
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: This flies in the face of that, and there's really

557
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: no work around for Look, you don't even have to

558
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: have sources. I mean Sean McVay said it after the

559
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Rams game, right like where they literally lost players, you know,

560
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: hours before kickoff, including Jay and Ramsey, and he said,

561
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, he had he was asked like, how did

562
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: you feel when they came to you and told you

563
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: this was happening? And I can't even repeat the word

564
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: to use, but he said, basically, you got to be

565
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: kidding me. Obviously they're frustrated, right, I mean, they're immensely frustrated.

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00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: They're in his case, they're finding out hours before a

567
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: huge game with huge playoff implications that his star player

568
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: is out. So it's very difficult for the coaches. It's

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00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: very difficult for everybody. Nobody wants this to impact games,

570
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: least of all the league, you know, And that's why

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00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I think they've they've got to come up with a situation,

572
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: some sort of solution for how they work around this.

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00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: The coaches issues that earn a very difficult spot because

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Speaker 1: they're going to be the ones who almost certainly have

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Speaker 1: to convey the message to players like careful, right, Like

576
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: you've got to sort of go back into your bubble

577
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: like you lived last year. Nobody wants to go back

578
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: to that. Everybody knows that, but certainly coaches, you know,

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00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: like Sean McDermott, who's team is very much in the

580
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: playoff race, you know, they're going to have to make

581
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: it clear to players like listen, this is an imminent issue.

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00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: It's a problem. It could really put you in a

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: terrible position with such important games, you know, and they're

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00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: probably going to have to tighten tighten things up again. Yeah,

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00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say it, but as tight

586
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: as the AFC playoff race is top to bottom in

587
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: the conference. NFC is getting tighter too. You lose the

588
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: wrong players at the wrong time, and it costs you

589
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: a game. I mean, it could cost you a playoff birth.

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00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: It's really crazy question. Think about question. I mean, look,

591
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: what's happening to the Cleveland Browns. I mean out there

592
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: in the playoff mix two and I forget what the

593
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: number is. I think eight players now Kevinsky the head coach.

594
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it puts you in a just

595
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: a terrible spot. Yeah. We're talking with NFL Network reporter

596
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: Judy Batista and Irving Texas at the NFL's Winter Owner meetings,

597
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: and we've got a big agenda today. Aside from all

598
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: of this COVID stuff that's going on, it looks like

599
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four super Bowl is going to go

600
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. We're hearing right. It had to be

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00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: reassigned though, right, because New Orleans had some kind of

602
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: conflict or something. How do you have a conflict for

603
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: posting the super Bowl pushed the other thing out of

604
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: the way? What the heck is that the super Bowl?

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00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: So next year as Arizona, well, you know it's in

606
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: LA this season. Then in Arizona, and then it was

607
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be New Orleans, except that when they added

608
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: the seventeenth game to the regular season, which starts this year,

609
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: it pushed the super Bowl back in New Orleans and

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: would have happened at the same time as Marty Brow,

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00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: which is the only thing in New Orleans that could

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: possibly trump the super Bowl. And I think the city

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00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: can't handle both Marty Brow and the super Bowl happening

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00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: in the same week. So everybody considered, and they they've

615
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: flipped it now, so that that spot is we believe

616
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: very strongly it's going to go to Las Vegas, the

617
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: new Stadium in Las Vegas, and then the New Orleans

618
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl gets pushed back a week. And I guess

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the calendar, but off is the

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Speaker 1: Eastern must fall at a different time, so Marty Girl

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Speaker 1: will not be happening that okay, And so all right,

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00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: so Las Vegas, Okay, good by twenty twenty four, Judy,

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Speaker 1: when this Super Bowl is held? What kind of I mean?

624
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Because gambling, sports, betting, all this stuff is on a

625
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: collision course with the league. There's already a marriage of

626
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: sorts there. Where do we think it's going to be

627
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. I mean, are there gonna be

628
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: lines on the scoreboard during the game? Like where are

629
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: we going to be bet from your seat? Like what

630
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: are we looking at? Listen? The landscape on gampling has

631
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: has evolved more quickly than anything I can remember. I mean, look,

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00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I remember when Tony Romo got in troubled for I'm

633
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: trying to have his identity at an hotel and at

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00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: a casino. I mean, this has been this has moved

635
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: so quickly in the last year year and a half,

636
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: has more state have come on board with legalized sports betting.

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's going to be like by then.

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Speaker 1: And I can't imagine what it's going to be like

639
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Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl in Las Vegas. It's going to

640
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: be fascinating. Yeah, and frankly, I think Las Vegas will

641
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. It goes throughout saying we

642
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: saw the diversity, Equity and Inclusion memo. I believe one

643
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: of your colleagues, Tom Pellasero, put out the memo kind

644
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Speaker 1: of outlining some new hiring practices that are they're going

645
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Speaker 1: to be voted on though first right there? Or are

646
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Speaker 1: some of these already in place. The owners were told

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Speaker 1: at the October meeting that this was coming some sort

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Speaker 1: of little tweaks where they construct the interview process before

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00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: the regular season actually ends, but they have to vote

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Speaker 1: on it to make it officials. So yeah, I mean,

651
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Speaker 1: this is, as you guys know, a very big topic.

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Speaker 1: They for the last few years have frankly been embarrassed

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Speaker 1: by the hiring of head coaches and the lack of

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Speaker 1: diversity of those hires, and so they are doing everything

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Speaker 1: they possibly can to put things in place to boost

656
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Speaker 1: minority representation among the hires. I think, you know, I

657
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: was talking to a big official last night. He said,

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Speaker 1: one of the big questions for this year is how

659
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Speaker 1: many openings are They're going to be like they're you know,

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00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: it's a good and bad thing if there's some years

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00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: where you have to eat openings, and so obviously that's

662
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: many more opportunities. There might not be that many openings

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Speaker 1: this year, and that obviously is good for incumbent coaches,

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Speaker 1: but for coaches who are looking for an opportunity to

665
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: get a job, not so good. And then this Washington

666
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Post report on Daniel Snyder is pretty ugly and it's

667
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Speaker 1: it's just another notch in a very troubling saga that

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Speaker 1: I'll call it a saga because that's how long this

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Speaker 1: has been going on in Washington. And this is going

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Speaker 1: to be addressed as well. How do you see this

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00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: playing out among ownership? Are we looking at? I mean,

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00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: missus Snyder is technically still you know, she's in charge

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Speaker 1: now with the day to day operations of the franchise.

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00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: That seemed to be an acquiescence on his part, like, okay,

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00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: well my wife will run things now. I'll you know,

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I'll be out of the picture. Where does it go

677
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: from here? What turn does this take? I don't know.

678
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that it changes anything within the league.

679
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: You know, owners, other owners have been frustrated by these

680
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: revelations over the last however, you know, it's been more

681
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: than a year that these stories have come out. They

682
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: are upset about them and discussed it, and some of

683
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: them have even questioned the discipline you know that was

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00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: handed down ten million dollars fine and Daniel Snyder, could

685
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Speaker 1: you know it was not supposed to be running in

686
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Speaker 1: the franchise. His wife is doing that right now, you know,

687
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: And he will return at an undetermined period of time

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Speaker 1: if we don't know what that's going to be. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think the bigger question is, you know, congressional committees

690
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: are looking at this and they want to hear more

691
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: from the NFL about its investigation into the Washington football team.

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00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, the league says they are cooperating fully, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's the question of where

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00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: does that go and who did they want to hear from?

695
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, who does the committee want to hear from um?

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: And who is going to appear and what will they say?

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00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure anything changes within the league about this.

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00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: You know, what was in the story that the Washington

699
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: Post published yesterday was disturbing, But you know, I'm not

700
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Speaker 1: sure that there's much more the league is going to

701
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Speaker 1: do their end with Washington. I think it's much more

702
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: a question of does their hand get forced by Congress? Right?

703
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: And I probably should have prefaced the question better since

704
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 1: our listening audience may not know that the Washington Post

705
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: report is basically indicating that Snyder allegedly interfered with the

706
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: previous investigation into the team's conduct, workplace environment, etc. And

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Speaker 1: to me, Judy, how is this different from the Jerry

708
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: Richardson situation. That's That's what I don't understand. I'm sure

709
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: there are differences. Every case is not the same, but

710
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: it seems to be traveling along a similar path in

711
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: terms of the alleged infractions, problems, workplace culture, etc. Why.

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00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why Jerry Richardson was summarily given

713
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: the boot and told hey, it's time to sell the team,

714
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: and here we are with Daniel Snyder, and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be traveling on that same path right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm confused by the primary difference is that Jerry Richardson

717
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: was prepared to sell the team, so he went somewhat willingly.

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00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, these revelations to him and he was you're

719
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: a member. Was literally twenty four hours later that they

720
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: said he is, you know, leaving the team and preparing

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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: to sell it. So, you know, was he nudged. I

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00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: don't think he had to be nudged all that much.

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Speaker 1: And so that's a much different situation Charity, which is

724
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: a much older man. He was prepared to sell. That's

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00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: not the situation with Daniel Snyder. He is a young man.

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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: This is his dream, this is his boyhood team. He

727
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: wants to own it. He has no intention of selling it.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, he has. He bought out

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00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: his minority partners, so he actually consolidated his hold on

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Speaker 1: the franchise. That's the big difference, right, he would fight

731
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: any effort to push him out. And frankly, there's not

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Speaker 1: much appetite among other owners to push out other owners

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Speaker 1: because they don't want to set a precedent, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they don't want to lay the groundwork so that if

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Speaker 1: anything ever happens in their organization that other owners could

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Speaker 1: try to force them out. So I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: much appetite. As much as these allegations, and this whole

738
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: situation has upset people in the league and embarrassed some

739
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: of them, I don't think there's much appetite among owners

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Speaker 1: to push a fellow owner overload. Okay, fair enough, Judy,

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Speaker 1: You've covered a lot of ground for us. We appreciate

742
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Speaker 1: the time. As always, we'll keep a We know you'll

743
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Speaker 1: keep an ear to the ground, so we will keep

744
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: an eye on Twitter for any of your latest reports.

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00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: At Judy Batista. That's two t's in the front, one

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Speaker 1: tea at the end. So Judy, thanks again for the time.

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Speaker 1: We know you'll stay busy out there. Great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you to take care of all right. That's NFL

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Speaker 1: Network reporter Judy Batista joining us here from the NFL

750
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: owners meetings in Irving, Texas. We'll take a break here,

751
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: be back with your thoughts on the tweet sheet. Next

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Speaker 1: swag swag that I got on here, Chris Brown, Steve

764
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Speaker 1: Tasker with you. COVID is still ravaging league player availability.

765
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: The Rams just added four more players to the COVID

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00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: reserve list. Linebacker Justin Hollins, tight end Johnny Munt and

767
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: tight end Jared Pinkney all added to their COVID reserve list,

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00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: which already has upwards of six or seven players. So

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00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: it continues. The numbers continues to go up across the league.

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Speaker 1: It was at seventy yesterday and now it's got to

771
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: be approaching close to ninety. Between players and coaches at

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00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: over thirty when the week started, thirty new cases and

773
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: it's going up. So you hear about all these guys

774
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: going on, going on, going on. There's also some guys

775
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: once a while coming off, but if you're in the

776
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: enhanced protocols, it doesn't matter if they come on because

777
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: nobody's in the building. Yes, it's a mess, it is.

778
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and leading us off

779
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: here is Jake and Amhurst. Jake, what do you have

780
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: for us? You're on One Bill's Live. Jake, are you there, sir?

781
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: All right? Jake, if you're trying to talk to us,

782
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: we're having trouble hearing you. I'm gonna put your back

783
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: on hold here and we'll move along to Tom and Buffalo. Tom,

784
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on One Bill's Live.

785
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, gentlemen, and over this COVID talk right now,

786
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: because everybody's dealing with that. I could have gone to

787
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: a Christmas party this morning and I don't want to

788
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: bring it home. So but anyway to expand on your

789
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: opening discussion, you were talking about Allen and a sturf

790
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: toll and whether it's better to rust him for one

791
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: week two weeks. Steve said it would heal faster. So

792
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: what do you do then? Do you start drubisky on

793
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: web and not dress Alan or do you have Alan dressed? Also,

794
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: because Allan's the only one I want throwing a deep

795
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: pass Drubisky on Web. They can try to run the

796
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: ball and maybe get away with some jet sweep screen flats,

797
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: maybe use a tight end on the backfield with Gillian.

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00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Caroline has got a good d I got

799
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff here. And Steve, could you exactly

800
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: describe turf toe because I've had a lot of injuries

801
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: in my life, but I've never experienced that. Turf toe

802
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: is when the ball of your foot, that joint right

803
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: behind your big toe inside your foot, not the top knuckle,

804
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: but the big ball of your foot. Yeah, I know

805
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: exactly because I got a bad foot right, So it's

806
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: when that point joint gets dislocate. Tom it's when that

807
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: joint gets dislocated, and then it pops back in right

808
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: away and it's sore from that. So you can imagine

809
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: every time you rock up on the top of your

810
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: foot your toes to walk, it's excruciating. So what they

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00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: do is to treat it. They'll get They have these

812
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: insoles that stick into the bottom of your shoe and

813
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: the front half of it, from the middle of your

814
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: foot up to the toes is steel. It's real thin

815
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: plate of steel, and it won't let your toes flex.

816
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: So when you walk, you go up on stiff, stiff

817
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: toes and you can go like that in your toe,

818
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: your big toe joint, your ball or your foot will

819
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: never move and they tape it stiff, and then they

820
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: also put that plate in your shoe so you can go.

821
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Speaker 1: But as you can imagine, compromises your mobility. Yeah, it

822
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: feels funky, but if if they can get it going good,

823
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: if it's not severe, you just go as hard as

824
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: you can and trusting the brace and the tape job

825
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: and the and the insole to hold it steady. And

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Speaker 1: we don't know that it's a toe It was originally

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Speaker 1: reported as such, but coach McDermott labeled it a sprained foot. Now,

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Speaker 1: could it still be a turf that's different. Yeah, it's

829
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Speaker 1: a Liz Frank. It's different. That's the top, that's your

830
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: arch of your foot. He wouldn't be playing if he

831
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Speaker 1: had that. Liz Frank's a crusher two. That's usually. It

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00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: seems like Star Lotulele has the toe thing. He's got

833
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: a toe in dream? Is that maybe his turf toe

834
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: for Star? But we don't know that Josh has got

835
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: turf toe. It might be a Liz Frank and they

836
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: have those midfoot sprains. I don't think it's a Liz Frank.

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Speaker 1: If it's a Liz frankie might be done for the year,

838
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, that's that's a much

839
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: more serious injury. He's called day to day. You're not

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00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: day to day with a Liz Frank. There's no way. Um,

841
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: but it could be like one of those midfoot sprains

842
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: that we hear about sometimes. Um. We'll have to see.

843
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: But basically Josh today said, if I'm able to go,

844
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Speaker 1: I'm going to play. And as much as you realize

845
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: that the New England game carries more weight in AFC

846
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: tiebreakers being a conference game, let alone the importance in

847
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: the division title. You're seven and six, you need this

848
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: game too. You're gonna need every game all the way

849
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: to the end. You're gonna be biting your fingernails. You

850
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: finished ten and seven, ye eleven and six, you're probably okay.

851
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Ten and seven, you might need help. Let's think about it.

852
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: In normal years, it was really rare once in a while,

853
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: like once every five or six years, not even a

854
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: team that'd go eleven and five to get shut out

855
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. It happened maybe a handful of times

856
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: since they went to the format they have now. But

857
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: we've never really seen a conference like the AFC this

858
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: year where so many teams are so tightly knit with

859
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: this mini obviously with this mini games, seventeen is to

860
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: the sixteen, but this tightly together with this mini games

861
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: to go, it's tight. It's a tight race. It's a

862
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: tight race. Almost well, ten teams, thirteen teams are within

863
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: one game of the last wild card and really one

864
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: game of the first wildcard, so two games of the

865
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 1: first wild card. It's it's a tight race. So this year,

866
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: even with seven teams in the playoffs. A team with

867
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: ten wins, there may be multiple teams with ten wins

868
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: who can't get in, and that's a that stinks if

869
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: you're that team. Now it's I'm telling you you gotta win. Everyone.

870
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Josh can play, You should probably play. You're gonna need

871
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: this game. I know it doesn't carry as much weight

872
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: as the New England game next week in the AFC

873
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: conference tiebreakers, but overall, wins and losses do, and you

874
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: need as many as you can get. Right now, let's

875
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: go back to the phones and we go to Mike

876
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: and Eriie. Next, Mike, what do you have for us?

877
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: You're on one Bills live. Yes, um, I'm a long

878
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: time Bills fan. But um, I wanted to give you

879
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: my opinion on the officiating last Sunday, okay, and I

880
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: wanted to see if you guys agree with me. Go ahead, Yes.

881
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible that the league is favoring

882
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: teams like the Patriots and the Buccaneers because they want

883
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: to see a Patriots Buccaneers Super Bowl rather than two

884
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: small market teams like the Bills and the Cardinals. No, No, no,

885
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Really, I don't and we look

886
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: at there's a I mean, I know it sounds good,

887
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: and I know it's a great story, and people have

888
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: been talking about and what a great epic tale it

889
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: would be. If the if the you know this guy

890
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: the finger quotes greatest coach of all time had the

891
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time, and they were together for

892
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: so long, they broke up, and now they come back

893
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: and they both meet in the super Bowl. Yeah, no,

894
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: that's the league doesn't work that way. Yeah, so appreciate

895
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: the calm because you got you got thirty other billionaires

896
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: that are loud, that can be loud and obnoxious and powerful.

897
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: And there would be guys like the commissioner and his

898
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million dollars salary would get kicked

899
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: to the curb pretty quick if that got out. Yeah,

900
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: and you don't do it with the commissioner of the league.

901
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: The owners don't work that way, and you know they're competitive.

902
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: And while there would be a handful of owners who

903
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, it'd be good for the league if

904
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: we did that, there's gonna be other owners that are

905
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'll chop you up if you try and

906
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: short change the team. I put together. This is our window.

907
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: I want to win a championship and a lot of money.

908
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm spending a ton of cash. You're not, You're not

909
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: manipulating anything. So there's too many guys that would profit

910
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: or get or relish the opportunity to blow that little

911
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: plan out of the water publicly. And the commissioner knows

912
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: that the league, no, they're not going to do anything

913
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: untowards like that because they know they get they'd get

914
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: out it quick, yeah, quick, so that they can't get

915
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: away with it because there's too many guys in the

916
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: room that want no part of it. Competing and all

917
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: it takes is one not even an owner could be

918
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: a GM could be Competing agendas, is the bottom line. YEA,

919
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: too many competing agendas, which is what makes the league

920
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: so great because there is that much competition. We have

921
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: to take a break here. When we come back, more

922
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: of your phone calls at eight oh three oh five

923
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: fifty open line for you there. Feel free to chime in.

924
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: Our Twitter conversation today involves the Buffalo pass rush. What

925
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: do the Bills need to do to reinvigorate their pass rush?

926
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: So if you have a comment on that, feel free

927
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a comment on Josh Allen's availability for Sunday,

928
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: We'll hear that as well, or anything else on your mind.

929
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: We'll get to your phone calls next. Here on one

930
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

931
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field.

932
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

933
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: players for you. St Steve a blimp. We're not even

934
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: in the straggier of normalcy. All right here we are

935
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: our number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

936
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: with you, talking Bill's pass rush, talking Josh Allen sprained

937
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: foot and his availability after being limited in a walkthrough

938
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: practice today, Coach McDermott said, the reps that Josh did

939
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: not get we're given to Mitchell Trubisky. So that possibility

940
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: exists for Sunday. We'll just have to see where it

941
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: goes on Thursday and Friday. Josh, addressing the media today,

942
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: said that if he can go, he will go, simple

943
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: as that, not resting it in any way, shape or form.

944
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: If he feels like he can play and be effective,

945
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: he will play. And given the way that game win

946
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, it's hard to imagine them winning a

947
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: game without him in the game. And I like, I

948
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: like Mitch Trubisky, and I think that's why they brought him,

949
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: And I think they'll play okay with Mitch Truby. They

950
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: may look very different with Trubisky in their quarterback. I'm

951
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: sure they would. Um, you have confidence that they could

952
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: win this game with Mitchell Trubisky instead of Josh I'm

953
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm not writing it off as a loss right away,

954
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: particularly with this Carolina team. Carolina's got them, but they

955
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: got a good defense offense. Yeah, but their defense is good.

956
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to generate some turnovers and do that

957
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But yeah, that'll be an interesting that'd

958
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: be an interesting question. But as we've seen and talked

959
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: about a lot, this is a this is a staff

960
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: and in a program that if a guy is not

961
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, they'd give him a chance to get

962
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: there before they put him on a field. I don't

963
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: know if that same template applies to their franchise quarterback.

964
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: Just so everybody's up to speed on this, uh. The

965
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: nfl PA put a tweet out that was retweeted by

966
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: some of the national reporters from the NFL. They tweeted

967
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: the following the NFL decided to take away a critical

968
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: weapon in our fight against the transmission of COVID nineteen

969
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: despite our union's call for daily testing months ago. We're

970
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: talking to our player leadership and to the NFL about

971
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: potential changes to the protocols so that we can complete

972
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: the season. So interesting stance on their part. So there's that,

973
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: and then there are other developments going on at the

974
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: owner's meetings in Irving, Texas. We'll try to pass those

975
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: along to you as they unfold. As you heard when

976
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: we had Judy Bautista on, it looks like Las Vegas. Oh,

977
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: it's official now. Las Vegas will be getting the twenty

978
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: twenty four Super Bowl, which New Orleans had to pass

979
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: on because with the addition of a seventeenth game to

980
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: the regular season schedule, it pushed the super Bowl back

981
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: a week and they had a conflict with their scheduling

982
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: because it's Marty grop I can't do Marty grown Super

983
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Bowl in the same way in New Orleans. That's a

984
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: little too much, a little too much and smoke a

985
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: little too much. There might not be in New Orleans

986
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: left by the end of that week. I don't know though,

987
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: that wouldn't that be the time when you wanted to

988
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: do a Super Bowl. I don't know how you do

989
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: it though. You've got people descending on the city don't

990
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: even care about the game, they just care about Mardi Gras.

991
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: Then you get all the football fans coming down on

992
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: top of that holy crow. You could build enough. You

993
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: could build some more hotels between now and twenty twenty

994
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: four and have it just ready, just in time, I suppose.

995
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: I suppose. So we'll try to keep our ear to

996
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: the ground on the goings on at the owner's meetings.

997
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: That pass along news to you as it happens. But

998
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: in the meantime we go back to the phones, and

999
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: we lead off here with Richard and Rochester. What do

1000
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: you have for us? Richard, you're on one bills live. Hey, guys,

1001
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: I got two questions. First of all, the pass rush

1002
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: or lack of the pass rush right in the inability

1003
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: to stop the run in the middle. And Ed Oliver

1004
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: looking so slim and trim and quick. What about moving

1005
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: him to end? Yeah? The problem there is an issue

1006
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: of length. He is not a tall player and he

1007
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: is not a long armed player. And you say, well,

1008
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: what does that matter? Well, it matters because every offensive

1009
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: tackle he's going to go against with longer arms is

1010
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: going to make contact with him before he makes contact

1011
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: with them, and that essentially renders a pass rusher off

1012
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: the edge powerless because now they have control of your

1013
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: body and where you're going. And that's why you put

1014
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: a player like ed inside where he's dealing with shorter

1015
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: length players and he can use his speed and quickness

1016
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: to be effective inside. Yet it I mean, I guess

1017
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: you could move him out there and rundowns or whatever,

1018
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: but you're you're talking about a guy that would be

1019
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: significantly physically smaller than the guys he's going against. Tackles

1020
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: are the biggest, longest guys on the field you're talking about, Like,

1021
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: think about Spencer Brown. He's six eight three bill three

1022
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: plus bills, He's got thirty four and a half inch arms. Yeah,

1023
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, can you know he can stiff arm me?

1024
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: He can't even touch him. Same thing with Dion Dawkins.

1025
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: He's got long arms. It's just a hard thing to ask.

1026
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: So there's a reason the guys playing the positions they

1027
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: do because they have a skill set and they've been

1028
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: trained to do it. And just because they all wear

1029
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: the same helmet doesn't mean they can all do the

1030
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: same thing or that. You know, you can move them

1031
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: around just wherever you think. So yeah, I mean I

1032
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: get it. In certain situations rundowns or maybe sure yardage

1033
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: or whatever, you can move them around and do different things.

1034
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: But that's not what we're talking about. So let's go

1035
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: to Jeff in South Lake next. What do you have

1036
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: for us? Jeff? You're on one Bill's life. Hey, how

1037
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: are you guys doing. I'll be as quick as possible

1038
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: because my phone's about to die. Sure, I listened to

1039
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: you guys all the time, and for three days now,

1040
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: I've listened to these guys calling in about the officiating,

1041
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: the conspiracies, all they don't want a small market team

1042
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: to go to Super Bowl, et cetera, et cetera. I

1043
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: want to lay that to rest. I mean, it just

1044
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: sounds so crazy to me. First of all, you can't

1045
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: play the best quarterback in history for half a game

1046
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: and win. Um and and you know, like the last

1047
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: color before break talking about they don't want a small market,

1048
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: small market team to win, I think it's the exact opposite.

1049
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a commissioner from Western New York.

1050
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: And I think it'd be great if I think it

1051
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: would be great for a small market team to get

1052
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl, you know. And I just

1053
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: these officials have an incredibly hard job, and I think that, um,

1054
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: hey there, you know, there's miss calls on both sides,

1055
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: and Bill fans seemed to focus on, Hey, we lost

1056
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: the game, and find an excuse. I guess I'll find

1057
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: excuses Josh Allen. And and the other thing is, Josh

1058
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: Allen can't play two physicians. He can't be the quarterback

1059
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: and the running back. And I just you know, I

1060
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: want to know your feelings on UM. Also on it

1061
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: seems that we have totally abandoned any any sort of

1062
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: of faith or anything and trying to run the ball

1063
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: with our running backs. Um. And it just seems like

1064
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen all the time. And uh so, so I

1065
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: wonder what your feelings are on UM why we're not

1066
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: even trying to give our running back to the ball anymore.

1067
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: And also, I you know, this officiating stuff's got to stop. Yeah,

1068
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: there's some miscalls and it sucked in it was at

1069
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: bad points of the game, but it didn't lose us

1070
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, the reason it came up at this time,

1071
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: the reason it came up this time, Jeff, and thanks

1072
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: for the call, is because it was all one side

1073
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: of this game. That's what it seemed like. Yeah, you're right.

1074
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: In other games there you could go back and say

1075
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: this the call when I went there, this one, that one,

1076
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: And even if the if the calls were in congress,

1077
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: like if you got a personal foul here and you

1078
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: only got an off side there or whatever, it seems like, yeah,

1079
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: they're they're inconsistent and bad on both sides for both ways.

1080
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: It didn't seem that way in this game. This is

1081
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: one game that stood out in the in the nature

1082
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: of the penalties that were not called against the Bills.

1083
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: That's why even the national media it was the four

1084
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: clock game, the whole country was watching, and that everybody

1085
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: saw the exact same thing. It was egregious, it was wrong.

1086
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: It was a little bit like the the La Rams

1087
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: and the New Orleans Saints of about four years ago

1088
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: when they had the Nicole robi. Uh. Yeah, the non call.

1089
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: The pass interface which called it and it wasn't right.

1090
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: They didn't call it, and it was it was a

1091
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: non call and then right, I'm talking about that. So

1092
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: there was all this stuff. Um, this was a bad game.

1093
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: You're right, And I don't think there's a conspiracy because

1094
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: what Brownie said, it's conflicting, it's conflicting agendas. Here's the thing,

1095
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 1: and I'll say, I'll tell you a story. Super Bowl

1096
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: twenty five. Our team was down in the in the

1097
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Giants, and I know for a

1098
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: fact that there were guys in the NFL and the

1099
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: properties end of things they said, missing, we would love

1100
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: it if Buffalo won this game because of what happens

1101
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: when your team wins. Everybody buys your stuff. I mean

1102
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: it's worth and they would say at that time, theres

1103
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of managing. They we're talking about like a

1104
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: thirty five, like a double digit, big, huge bump in

1105
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: our bottom line with our end of the business because

1106
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: the small market team won and they would win fans

1107
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: and there stuff would sell and all that. Nobody's gonna

1108
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: buy more Giant stuff because it's a New York you

1109
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They sell all that stuff anyway,

1110
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: But a small market team winning is actually a boon

1111
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: financially for the NFL properties end of the business. So

1112
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: there's there's all kinds of conflicting agenda. So that's why

1113
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: the league, I mean they I'm true, they run it

1114
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: as fair as they can possibly run it. Certainly, the

1115
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: officials that officiate the games or human beings, and for

1116
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: whatever biases and problems and this and that and the

1117
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: other they have to live with. I get it. But

1118
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: so the human error is always going to be there.

1119
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: But I do not. There is no big, super dark

1120
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy about what goes on, because there can't be, because

1121
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: it would always get somebody always going to find out.

1122
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: And when they find out, the whole league is dead.

1123
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: The jig is up and you're dead. You'll never gain

1124
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: the credibility of the country again. Time now for us

1125
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: to turn to Panthers radio color analyst Jim Zoki, who

1126
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: joins us to give us the four one one on

1127
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers as the Bills get set to take

1128
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: them on here in week fifteen at Himark Stadium on Sunday.

1129
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: All right, Jim, so let's jump into this matchup right away.

1130
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: Obviously there are you guys are coming in with a

1131
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: roster that looks dramatically different than it did at the

1132
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, particularly a quarterback obviously at running back,

1133
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: with you know, Christian McCaffrey out for this season, there

1134
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: have been changes at the coaching level also with Brady

1135
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: no longer the offensive coordinator. How has this team maybe

1136
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: morphed and changed the most as you have seen it

1137
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. I think, you know,

1138
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: with the offense obviously McCaffrey was this is your two

1139
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: of the Matt Rule era, and you're two of Christian

1140
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: McCaffrey missing most of the games that only have played

1141
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: in ten games over the past two seasons. And that's

1142
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: the big thing is, you know, you build your offense

1143
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: around the centerpiece that you're spending sixteen million dollars a

1144
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: year on and you've not had them, basically for various

1145
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: injuries over the past two seasons. So that's the biggest one.

1146
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: The offensive line just really hasn't gotten cohesive throughout the seasons.

1147
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: That's been an ongoing issue by and large as well.

1148
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: And he mentioned quarterback, and we started with Sam Darnold,

1149
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: who could have envisioned we'd be talking to you about

1150
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and the Panthers rolling in at this time

1151
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: of year to play against the Buffalo bills. So, as

1152
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: you said, it's been kind of all across the board,

1153
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: with a lot of surprises and then changing offensive coordinators

1154
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: during the bye week a week and a half ago.

1155
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't really have much more change than

1156
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: that with the offensive side, and then just with quarterbacks specifically.

1157
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I know the platoon has begun. I saw Cam Newton

1158
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: got seventy five percent of the snaps last week. P

1159
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: J Walker gets the remaining twenty five five. Are we

1160
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: expecting that kind of balance for the most part going forward? Yeah,

1161
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: hard to say. I think it's a flow of the

1162
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: game kind of thing, honestly, like the Washington the game

1163
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, PJ didn't play because Cam

1164
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: was playing well and had three touchdown drives, and then

1165
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, struggled mightily in Miami two games ago, and

1166
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: then had some issues again this past game that we

1167
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: just had with Atlanta. So I think PJ is more like,

1168
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: if they feel like they need a spark, a change

1169
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: of pace, a package of plays, I think we'll see that.

1170
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's necessarily premeditated. I do think

1171
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: he's up and ready and available if they want to

1172
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: use them. But things are going, well, they're not going

1173
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: to change it just because it's Pja Walker time. And

1174
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: then with Matt Rule, you know, I know some of

1175
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: the boo birds are coming out now, some of the

1176
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: more critical fans are saying, well, maybe we should move

1177
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: on from this guy. I mean, I know they're under

1178
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: five hundred, but they're not out of the NFC playoff race.

1179
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: So inside the building is what is the conversation like,

1180
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: do they feel like they're in this thing? I'll tell

1181
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: you that they have this really one and O mentality

1182
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: each week. So I can tell you as far as

1183
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: if you're asking what the organization things are focused on

1184
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo this week, and that's what you gotta do. I mean,

1185
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: this team is is five and eight and you start

1186
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: looking at if you win out you're nine and eight,

1187
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: that might get you in the playoffs. So really, they

1188
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: just got to focus on playing good football this week

1189
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: and if they have a successful result, then you can

1190
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: look at the next one. I mean, when you've alost

1191
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: to the end of your last ten, I don't think

1192
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: you know they're walking around making playoff plans right now.

1193
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: They got to figure out how to play good football

1194
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: this week. New offensive coordinator They've only had Cam here

1195
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: like three weeks, three and a half weeks, and so

1196
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to really, you know, just get things together

1197
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: where they can get a win. They've been close to

1198
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: some of these games, and Miami was not one of

1199
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: those games. But they got to figure out how to

1200
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: play four quarters of football. And then with all of

1201
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: the turmoil on the offensive side of the ball, how

1202
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: much more complicated does it get if DJ Moore is

1203
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: unable to return from the hams string injury. Yeah, I think, yeah,

1204
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: we'll see first of all, as the week goes on,

1205
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: but I think he's day to day. But he did

1206
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: come back and play last week. Things could change. I

1207
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: think they'll probably play, But that's a big one. Obviously,

1208
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: he's a number one receiver by far when you look

1209
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: at the stats especially, but even just the way he's

1210
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: relied upon and with each quarterback, he's been their go

1211
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: to guy much more than Robbie Andrews. This is Robbie's

1212
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: best week the past week. But yeah, DJ's critical, especially

1213
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: the catch after the run. After the catch I should say,

1214
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: because especially you know, get cold weather, things like that,

1215
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: if you can make a shorter pass into a bigger pass, play.

1216
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: DJ is a strong runner of the football after he

1217
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: catches it, and then with the running game in the

1218
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: absence of McCaffrey. What kind of back is Chuba Harvard. Yeah,

1219
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: Chuber can do a lot of the skill set things

1220
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: that McCaffrey can. You can you can throw to him somewhat.

1221
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: He can run between the tackles as well. So he's

1222
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: got a well rounded game for being a rookie running back.

1223
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: So you don't think that stylistically you have to change anything.

1224
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: You know, the big change has been the return of

1225
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: Cam and with the RPOs and the zone, the reads

1226
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: and he ran at ten times last week forty seven yards.

1227
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: He was actually the top rusher for the Panthers in

1228
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: the game against Atlanta last week. So that's the number

1229
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: one thing is the threat of Cam. And you know

1230
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: he could either hand it off to Cuba keep it,

1231
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: and it makes defenses accountable for not just you know

1232
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: what Cuba's doing, but keep it an eye on Cam

1233
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: if he might keep it. Everyone I know, on the

1234
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, as Son Reddicks put a

1235
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: nice season together in terms of sack totals and the like,

1236
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: and you know, Stefan Gilmour is in the fold now

1237
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: and is pretty much settled in. What has Gilmore's impact

1238
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: been like on the back end for this defense thus far. Yeah,

1239
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: he'd been playing, you know, a percentage of snaps that

1240
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: were kind of in say, the sixty percent range. He

1241
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: played one hundred percent of the snaps last week, so

1242
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: obviously got a former Defensive Player of the Year. He

1243
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: seems like he's healthy, and then you just get the

1244
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: communication and veteran leadership that comes with a guy who's

1245
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: been around the league as long as he has, so

1246
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: that's huge. We lost Donte accident after the last game

1247
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: prior to Atlanta Miami, and Dante was the other starter there.

1248
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: So his emergence as start as being healthy coincides with

1249
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: losing a starting cornerback in Dante Jacksons. You kind of

1250
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: lose one unfortunately to put the other one in there.

1251
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: But they got an A J. Boyer who's been playing

1252
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: a lot nickel. He can play out on the outside

1253
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: a little bit as well, and as CJ. Anderson's been

1254
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of wild card. He only played twenty five percent

1255
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: of the snaps this past week. But they traded the

1256
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: third round pick and a starting tight end and Dan

1257
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: Arnold d Jacksonville. They gats CJ. Henderson, a former top

1258
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: ten pick from twenty twenty, and he did. You know, again,

1259
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: they didn't use him a lot in this past game.

1260
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: They view him as more of a long range play,

1261
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: maybe something more for next year, but really needed to

1262
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: step on, Gilmar, step up and actually play football for

1263
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: them right now. And then I remember when Jeremy Chin

1264
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: came out, he looked like a Swiss army knife type

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Speaker 1: of safety. Are they utilizing him that way? How are

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Speaker 1: they using Chin within the scope of the defense there,

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Speaker 1: He's been playing more like a true safety. He'll play

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Speaker 1: some box safety in the run game when they think

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Speaker 1: they needed. He had thirteen tackles last game, so he

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Speaker 1: actually was on the field a lot and played well.

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Speaker 1: And so I feel like he's getting more comfortable with this,

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Speaker 1: as you said, kind of restructured role, more of a

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Speaker 1: traditional world at safety this year, where last year here's

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Speaker 1: more of a hybrid linebackers. So again they'll play them

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Speaker 1: down in the box and obvious writing plays a doublets

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Speaker 1: them here and there, so they'll kind of move them around,

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Speaker 1: but not as much as they were doing last year.

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Speaker 1: And then just with the defense, you know, statistically carrying

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Speaker 1: the day for them, it would seem in most games.

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Speaker 1: Is I don't think it's an oversimplification to say the

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Speaker 1: fits and starts on offense have been the Achilles heel here?

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Speaker 1: Would I be wrong in assuming that. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: only seen a couple of their games to this point,

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Speaker 1: but it just seems like all the turmoil over there

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Speaker 1: is what has compromised this season more than anything else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's shared. It's mostly been on the offense,

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Speaker 1: but they expect their defense to outperform their offense. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the defense plays well, that's okay, they need to play

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Speaker 1: that really really well. Great, because the offense, of what

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Speaker 1: you're saying is kind of the fits and starts. We

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Speaker 1: start out well with a good opening drive a lot

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Speaker 1: of games, and then points can be difficult to come

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Speaker 1: up with, or in the case of last week, give

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Speaker 1: up a pick six to make that whole even bigger

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Speaker 1: for the defense, And so we're seeing what the defense is.

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Speaker 1: Third down conversion rate is where they need to play

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Speaker 1: better football. They give up fifty percent against Atlanta last week,

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Speaker 1: and the two previous weeks we're forty percent. And some

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Speaker 1: of you look at the yardage stats and some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. It's really gaudy, like top two, top three

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Speaker 1: in these areas, but a lot of that was built

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Speaker 1: over the first ten weeks of the season, so there've

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: been some breaches. They've been hitting the running game a

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01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: little bit more lately overall, and again, get up the

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Speaker 1: field on third down. Did not have a quarterback sack

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Speaker 1: against Matt Ryan, of all people, last week, who was

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: sacked five times by Tampa Bay the week before. So

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 1: the pressure is not always as consistent as the overall

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Speaker 1: stats of the season may indicate. And then, Jim, what

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Speaker 1: are we to make of the Cam Newton return? Obviously

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: they were in a desperate situation, but this was Nobody

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Speaker 1: had any preconceived notions that they were getting the same

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton in his prime when he returned right, No,

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Speaker 1: and it was a nice fit. From the standpoint of

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Speaker 1: it appears to me Cam wanted to come back to

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Speaker 1: the starters somewhere and teams weren't willing to do. I

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Speaker 1: think he had some opportunity to be a backup while

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Speaker 1: he was sitting at home after New England let him go.

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: I think Seattle and Houston talked to him, but you know,

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: he views himself as a more of a starter or

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Speaker 1: at least a guy's got a good chance to start

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: every week. And then when Sam Darnald went down for

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Speaker 1: an extended period of time, you know, that opened the

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Speaker 1: door to create a starting situation for Cam and they're

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Speaker 1: paying him starters money about you know, ten million that

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Speaker 1: he could make over the back half of the season.

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Speaker 1: You're coming in, but he's been inconsistent. So he's come

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Speaker 1: in and I think he's at just over fifty eight

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01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: percent completion, three touchdowns, three interceptions, Still a big running threat,

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Speaker 1: but again at this point the jury still out, will

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: see what he could do over the next four weeks

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Speaker 1: as a young guy. There's thirty two, which where quarterback

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: is not that old. But he has been, as you

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01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: kind of alluded to, inconsistent as far as a pastor

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Speaker 1: of the ball. Yeah, and Jim, I bring this up

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: because I think there are Bills fans that look at

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's game, the problems with the run game up here.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is essentially the run game and the pass game,

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01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: and I think some fans harbor concerns that that is

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01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 1: not sustainable long term, and they often use Cam Newton

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01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: as the quintessential example a guy that got old fast

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01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: because of all that was put on his plate. You know,

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01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: with his read option runs a lot of short yardage

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: hits that he's taken over the years. Can you just

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: speak to the toll, the physical toll that Cam Newton's

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: style of play put on his body and might be

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: partly at least responsible for the decline in his play

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01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: and production. No, I think it's valid. You know, Cam

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: has been around, I said, eleven years, so he's got

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01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: a lot more years than Josh Allen. Right, those hits

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01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: add up, and not even just the hits, because I

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: think Cam takes PARTI. Cam is always taking more big

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01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: hits in the pocket than he has in the open field.

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01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: He's taking control of the outcome of sliding, running out

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01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: of bounds, just a birding a play by throwing himself

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01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: to the ground. And Josh Allen could do the same,

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01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: although I've seen them, you know, obviously put his body

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01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: out there and extended. I would recommend to him not

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: to do that. It's not worth it in the big

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: picture to get there unless you're in a playoff game

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I would not recommend doing that

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01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: because it does take that toll. And I always look

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01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: at say a quarterback's age, someone like Cam or Josh Allen.

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: You've got almost view them as a hybrid running back

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01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: tight end age, like what does the thirty two year

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: old running back look like? What does a thirty two

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: year old tight end look like? And not just a

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Speaker 1: pure quarterback. And that's how I kind of view it

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: with guys like that as far as if they're what

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01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: they're creating, as far as defenses is having trouble with them,

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Speaker 1: is that a scapability in running? If that's taken away,

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Speaker 1: they become one dimensional. Obviously, it cuts down on just

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: how overall performance goes for them. Jim, thanks very much

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Speaker 1: for the time. We appreciate you kind of bringing us

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01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: up to speed on the Panthers in their state of

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: affairs here with a few games left to play. Thanks

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: for joining us here. All right, that's Jim Zokie from

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01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: the Panthers Radio network helping us out getting us up

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Speaker 1: to speed on what we can expect from Carolina on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Sunday's game, the Bills would like to thank

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Speaker 1: the red shirt treatment. Steve and I are going to

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but when we come back, more

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Speaker 1: of your phone calls. So if you're online and on

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Speaker 1: hold at eight oh three five fifty, stay right where

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill is Live.

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Speaker 1: Steve was out of town yesterday. We mentioned this on

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01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: the show yesterday on How Bills. Fans, in an effort

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01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: to draw attention to the lack of penalties called against

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Speaker 1: the Bucks and some of the questionable penalties called against

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Speaker 1: the bill, particularly in overtime, decided to ban together and

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Speaker 1: send seventeen dollar donations to the Visually Impairment Advancement of

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Speaker 1: Western New York. And Steve's got an update on the money.

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Speaker 1: Total is over twenty thousand dollars has been raised in

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Speaker 1: seventeen dollars increments, Yeah, for the Visual impair Visually Impairment

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Speaker 1: Advancement Organization. Over twenty thousand dollars. And that's just counting

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Speaker 1: the seventeen dollars donations. Somebody, people you know, might turn

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Speaker 1: a negative into a positive, Brownie, you said it. That

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Speaker 1: is absolutely savage. It is savage, and I love every

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Speaker 1: bit of it. I am here for it. Just the

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Speaker 1: seventeen dollars donations over twenty visually impaired advancement of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: The seventeen dollars increments on behalf of the blind officiating

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Speaker 1: in the Bucks Bills game last Sunday night. Isn't that great?

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's so cleverly delicious, so clever. That

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Speaker 1: is great. Uh, let's get back to those fans on

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Speaker 1: the phone lines. At eight oh three oh five fifty one,

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two, five fifty, we go down to

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Speaker 1: South Carolina to talk to Jay. Jay, what do you

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Speaker 1: have for us? Hey? How are y'all doing today? Good? Good? Hey? Um,

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Speaker 1: I want to do it, trust me talking about the

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Speaker 1: pass rush um small games that I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about because I think we're vacuum. I'm that like Sam Adams,

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01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: Ted Washington, I'm compared to Harrison and star Um. I

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Speaker 1: like Harrison a lot and uh, an of your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that at first? Yeah, I mean the league has

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01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: drifted away from the gigantic interior defenders because it has

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: become such a passing league. You know, twenty years ago

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Speaker 1: when those guys were playing, uh, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a different game. The run game was still very much

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: a part of the majority of offenses across the league.

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: Running Backs were routinely putting up thirteen fourteen hundred yard

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01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: seasons and they had to be stopped. And you needed big,

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01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,520
Speaker 1: girthy guys inside to handle two blockers, so your linebackers

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: could run and hit and bring tacklers down not far

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: beyond the line of scrimmage. Then the passing took over

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: and is the majority of how offense has moved to football,

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: and defense has said, well, I can't have a three

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pound two down player when they're

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: throwing on first down. That's right, And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things you talk to people, and we've we've had

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Speaker 1: Ted Washington on the show, and I think he's a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber player without question. For the sixteen

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Speaker 1: or seventeen years he was in the National Football League,

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01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: the defense that he played on was never out of

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: the top five in rush defense, never and he was

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: the reason for He was a big reason for it.

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Speaker 1: The problem with his Hall of Fame candidacy, So I've

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: been I've come to know is he came out on

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: threw down. He can't he couldn't rush the passer. And

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Speaker 1: that's you know, So that's why they're looking now for.

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01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: It's a it's a delicate balance. You want guys that

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: can stop the run, but you want them fast and

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: athletic enough to run to really run at least push

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01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: the pass, push the pocket. Yeah, they got to be

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: able to rush the passer or to drop into coverage

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: and zone blitz schemes. They got to be able to

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: run sideline to sideline. You're talking like the Richard Seymour, right,

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01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: you're looking for athletic, athletic quarterbacks, and you're looking at

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 1: the teams that will run or pass on any down

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: you can name. So you got to have more versatile athletes,

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: the bigger and they can they can be big, that's fine,

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: but they also got to be able to run and

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: like run and move and all that. And those guys

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Speaker 1: are rare. Yeah, they're rare. I mean you're talking to

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Speaker 1: like Klais Campbell, Richard Seymour, and Helodi Nada. What's that

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01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: three in the last fifteen years? What else you got?

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Speaker 1: Jay Um I was thinking of your thoughts. I know

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Speaker 1: it's come up. I don't thought um Edmonds and his leverage, Um,

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Speaker 1: why kill he put him on the outside. You know,

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Speaker 1: I understand his capabilities, but I think madevich with his

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01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: leverage and maybe stopping the run might be more beneficial,

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: so we put him on left side, right side A

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01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: little bit more on that. Yeah, I understand what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for the call. Jay. Tremaine Edmonds was essentially

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Speaker 1: a strong side backer who got up on the line

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01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: a good deal in college at Virginia Tech. He had

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01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: never played middle linebacker before. He's been there going on

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Speaker 1: four seasons now here with the Bills. Is he long

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Speaker 1: for that position? Probably? Does he have the length to

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Speaker 1: play outside? I think he does. I just don't see

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01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: this organization changing course with him necessarily unless something comes

1474
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: down the pike where they're in a position to draft

1475
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker, believe he could be more suited or

1476
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: limited to just that type of role, and they choose

1477
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: to take an athletic phenom in Tremaine Edmonds and decide

1478
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: to move him. I think that's the only thing that

1479
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: changes the conversation there. That's right. I don't think they're

1480
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: going to move him change his position. Certainly, his physical

1481
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 1: build is completely different than anything he's seeing most inside linebacker.

1482
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: And he's high cut, you know, So leverage can be

1483
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: an issue sometimes and I get it too. Sometimes he

1484
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: goes in. It seems like he gives himself up on

1485
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: the run game to you know, take on a block

1486
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: or not try to play off the block or to

1487
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: make the tackle. And you can look back at that

1488
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: that block, the tackle he missed inside on four net

1489
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: on the short yardage, just clean missed the guy. You know,

1490
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: middle linebackers don't do that very much. His skill set

1491
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: is built more for a team that drops him into

1492
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: coverage more so than moves him out. Very good at that,

1493
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: he's good at that, and he's also long. He's gifted

1494
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: at that. Physically, he's got traits that make him especially

1495
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: good for that. So I think when this team is

1496
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: playing the way they wanted to play, you don't want

1497
01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: anybody else except Tremaine Edmunds inside. But you over the

1498
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: last you know, when this offense fails to score or

1499
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: when you get a team that can can really grind

1500
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: it out in the run game, you can't stop him,

1501
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: can't force him into throwing the ball, then he becomes

1502
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: something different than what he's that he than what he is.

1503
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: When the defense is playing the way it is supposed

1504
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: to play, offenses can force him into doing things that

1505
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: he's not that good at. Back to the phones and

1506
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: to Mike and Orchard Park, Mike, what do you have

1507
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: for us? You're on one Bill's life. Yeah, Hi, guys,

1508
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: enjoy your show very much. Thank you. You know, the

1509
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: comeback that we we saw on Sunday was pretty monumental.

1510
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at comebacks of that type,

1511
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: you can you could you could sometimes trace it to turnovers,

1512
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: fewer mistakes, UM, perfect execution, sometimes luck. And then there's coaching,

1513
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: And I know coach McDermott has been getting a lot

1514
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: of criticism lately in regards to his coaching expertise. And

1515
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: I just wanted your take, Steve, primarily yours from your

1516
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: playing days with you know, UM with the Bills. How

1517
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: do you rate UM coach McDermot in terms of his

1518
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: ability to motivate UM? From what you know? Does he

1519
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: have the ability to intensify his voice? Does he does

1520
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: he show anger emotion? Does he challenge his players? Does

1521
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: he challenge their athleticism? I'm just curious as to what

1522
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: role do you think this played in in Sunday's comeback.

1523
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Interesting. It's an interesting question because there's

1524
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: a number of ways, Like like you alluded to, there's

1525
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: a number of ways that coaches use techniques that coaches

1526
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: used to motivate. Here's one thing that I've noticed as well.

1527
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: Coaches motivate do their best to motivate a certain type

1528
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: of player that they have. They click with certain players

1529
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: with certain type of personalities. If you've got these guys

1530
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: that are like you know, if you've got these guys

1531
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: that you just you don't know where they're going to

1532
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: do in their off time, you just hope they show

1533
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: up on time. You know, the guys that you know,

1534
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: they may end up you might have to bail them

1535
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: out on Sunday morning to get into the game on time.

1536
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: That I'm exaggerating to make a point, but you get

1537
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: my point. Um, guys who who are not the kind

1538
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: of guy you take home to meet mom. There's a

1539
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: type of there's a way to motivate those guys. There's

1540
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: also a guy a way to motivate the guys that

1541
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: you know have the wife and the kids, their mortgage

1542
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: and they they're they're upstanding guys and they're they're all

1543
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: these kind of guys. There's ways to motivate them. When

1544
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 1: you get a mix of those guys, you got to

1545
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: find a way to reach all of them. And coaches

1546
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: and gms they tend to look for guys with similar traits.

1547
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: You can look at this team and you see, you know,

1548
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of stellar, high character guys on

1549
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: this squad. So the techniques that work on those guys

1550
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: are what Sean McDermott will try to use to motivate

1551
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: those type of guys. You don't have any guys that

1552
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: you know that that are that are arrested. You know,

1553
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: you don't have guys like that. You don't have guys

1554
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: that are anger have anger management issues. You don't have

1555
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 1: guys that have authority issues. You don't have guys like that.

1556
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of guys that really put their

1557
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: nose down and work hard, great sweet guys. They're they're wonderful,

1558
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: but you got to find a way to motivate those guys.

1559
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: So it's different for every team. Marv Levy used to say, listen,

1560
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: if I have to motivate you, I got the wrong guys,

1561
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: and that in and of itself was a motivator for

1562
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot of us. Was like, listen, if I don't

1563
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: need him, I could do it myself. I'm ready, let's go.

1564
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get yourself ready. And appealing to

1565
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: that in every single guy is what you want. You

1566
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: also want to hire guys if you can find them

1567
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: that are like that. They don't need to be motivated.

1568
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't need you to tell me how to get

1569
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: ready to play. I got it. Let's go. Guys like that.

1570
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 1: So for the fifty three or you know, basically, you know,

1571
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: the seventy guys that are in the building, Sean McDermott

1572
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: has to look at each of them and find what

1573
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: what does it for them and strike those chords with

1574
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: seventy different people plus twenty five guys on a coaching staff. Well,

1575
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: and I think that he's not a button pusher. Bill

1576
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: Parcels was a button pusher, that's right. You know. He's

1577
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: got Brian Cox in the locker room and he walks

1578
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: in and he drops a gas can next to his

1579
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: locker stall, and he goes, what the hell is at

1580
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: and he says, somebody said you were just about out

1581
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: of gas for the rest of the season, so I

1582
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: thought I'd help you out and he just walks out

1583
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: of the locker room. Right, guys, that's at pusher. Some

1584
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 1: guys respond to the guys right, But that's not coach McDermott.

1585
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: What coach McDermott usually does is he tries to find

1586
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: coaches for his staff that bring energy. They motivate, They

1587
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: actively motivate the guys they're dealing with every single day.

1588
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: They invest the most time in those players at their position,

1589
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: so they he tries to have them pull it out

1590
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: of them by demanding. That's not to say the coach

1591
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: doesn't demand things, but he's not the guy leaning on

1592
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: him every single day, says the overseer. He sets the

1593
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: tone and he lays out the process. The coaches deal

1594
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: with the details and the motivation. Every team is different

1595
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: in that regard. That's what makes it culture. That's what

1596
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: every coach unique. But usually it's it's commonplace around the NFL.

1597
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: Every morning head coach stands up in front of a

1598
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: team meeting, it gets the day started. Say hey, hey,

1599
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: here's where we are today. Guys. We're gonna do ABC

1600
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: and D and a lot of times. That's all it is.

1601
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 1: It's book, it's housekeeping. Hey, don't forget you know, you

1602
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: got this going on today. You got that going on today.

1603
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: Make sure you're there for that, and make sure you

1604
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: look out for this and blahla la lah. That's it. Okay,

1605
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: break down into meetings. Or he's got a video that

1606
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 1: he shows. Hey, guys, I want you to see this,

1607
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: look at that, Look what happened here. And he'll show

1608
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: a video of some type either something that has nothing

1609
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: to do with football that says something about the human

1610
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: emotion and it gets guys like you can all we

1611
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: can all relate to it. Like we see on social

1612
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: media these videos that go viral or whatever. Some coaches

1613
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: will have some made up for them, specially done, or

1614
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: they'll find one, or they'll have somebody who we've heard

1615
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: numerous times come in I got it done. Happens as

1616
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 1: much under COVID because you can't get the guy in

1617
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: the building, but they'll have somebody come in and tell

1618
01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: their story for ten minutes, you know, all poncha villa, right,

1619
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: So everything is on the table and it's up to

1620
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: the head coach to find to explore every avenue he

1621
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: has to put his arm around the shoulder of every

1622
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: guy in the building wants to day and say, hey,

1623
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: we need you and you're important and let's go. We

1624
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: need you to be motivated. That's the job of every

1625
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: head coach, not and Sean McDermott does that for some

1626
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: guys and other guys he drops a can of gas

1627
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: next to their you know, or I don't know if

1628
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: he's that kind of a button. No, I don't think

1629
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: so either, because he doesn't go he doesn't even go

1630
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: near the line of negative. I'll say this enforcement. It's

1631
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: all about positive reinforce. Say this though somebody I'm maybe

1632
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: it was sal Or, maybe it was you this morning

1633
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 1: that asked Sean McDermott, do you need more out of

1634
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: your defensive line? He said, one hundred percent. There's some

1635
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,560
Speaker 1: coaches that will make it public. Well, he'll give it

1636
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: to him straight. It's not like they. He probably isn't

1637
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: from him. Yeah, he's probably not saying anything public to them.

1638
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Um, we have to break here. When

1639
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: we come back, Steve and I will wrap it up.

1640
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: We'll see if we have time to get to a

1641
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: couple more phone calls here on one Bill's Live stay tuned.

1642
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. I want

1643
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: to squeeze in a couple more phone calls here for

1644
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: guys who've been waiting patiently. We go to Albert and

1645
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: West Seneca. Albert, what do you have for us? You're

1646
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Some of the teams like that.

1647
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: I say, Tennessee, he has a running back, Henry. Do

1648
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: you think would help Buffalo Bills for a larger running back?

1649
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: I know Singletary's real good, and I know Mom, but

1650
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: I think we need somebody a little bit bigger. It

1651
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: takes some of the press. Rof Allen and you know, well,

1652
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: we'll see Albert. I'll tell you. There's a sentiment going

1653
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: around that, you know, the Bills have abandoned their run game,

1654
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: or don't spend enough time on it, or it's just

1655
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: a complimentary piece. I get it. And their draft picks

1656
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: would probably say that. Yet they take running backs on

1657
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: the third round round in there. They're not going to

1658
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: go up and jump up and get a guy with trades.

1659
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: But if you gotta think a player that's more gifted

1660
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: would make you better, I don't know if you want

1661
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: to spend the capital or the draft capital or the

1662
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: money to get a guy like that. And if you

1663
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: do spend that much, is he going to take it

1664
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: out of gear when it gets tough because he's already

1665
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: made his money. A running back is the most effective

1666
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 1: in his first handful of years in the league when

1667
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: he's hungry and trying to get to his second contract,

1668
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: and notoriously, when they sign that contract, they evaporate. That's

1669
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: what you're up against. And because I get it too,

1670
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't hold anything against those guys. It's a brutal

1671
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: way to make a living. I think what is certain

1672
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: is this in this offseason, the Bills have to find

1673
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: a way to reduce the burden that is on Josh

1674
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: Allen every single week. He has to be an all

1675
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: world player for this team to win consistently and stack

1676
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: victories even with a number one defense. What does that

1677
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: tell you about the offense? So whatever that path is

1678
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: to reduce his burden, it has to be accomplished this offseason.

1679
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Whether it's a better running back, a better offensive line,

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Speaker 1: an all world receiver that you want to pair with Digs,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, they got to find it because it's

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Speaker 1: not sustainable long term. Steve and I are back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: got Field Yates with us, Join us at one