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Everybody Knows Doctor Field 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: is a conflict resolution show with a panel of experts 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: that help people sort through their problems. Okay, I guess 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: I may be on that ship one day. You know. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Face the Truth is unscripted and promptu helping real people 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: with real issues. Premiered Monday, September ten on CBS. She's 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: a partner in the law firm or Martin and Martin 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: with her husband in Los Angeles, a legal analyst on 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: CNN That's where I discover her and the author of 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the popular motivational book Make It Rain, Please, Working to 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: money making Conversations Arriva Martin. Hello, I love it. I 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: love it. I love great introductions. I love giving them 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: and I love receiving them. Well, first of all, you 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 1: deserve it, you know, because of the fact that Harvard 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Law School attendee a graduate and all that good stuff. 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, tell me about. Okay, where did it all 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: start for you? Okay, because that's what I'm saying. Boring 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: in St. Louis. That's Midwest, girl, That's Midwest, Midwest. Okay, 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: the Arch, the Arch. You know, one of my favorite 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: hotels is in uh Is in St. Louis, the Four Seasons. 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: I love the hotel. You can look out and see 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the Archers, one of my favorite hotels in St. Louis. 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: And but now you know I was I would like 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: to go back to people when they get started with 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: these thoughts because I'm African American. I grew up in 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: inner city and all I had was dreams. What inspired 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: you to be to to St. Louis is cool? But 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: I want to do better. Two women my grandmother and 53 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: my godmother. Grandmother was a paraplegic. Godmother was a maid 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and a janitor. Uh two women was very limited education, 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: very very limited money, but heart. You know, they had 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot of heart. They had a lot of love. 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: They raised me and my brothers and they taught me 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: some values that you know serve you well. Whether you're 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: in New York, St. Louis, Los Angeles, Paris, it doesn't matter. Uh. 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: Some of those values that UH instilled in me in 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: a young age have stuck with me and have been 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: really the motivating force but behind everything that I've accomplished 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: in my life professionally. And then you share this in 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: public speaking. Correct. I talked about it all the time 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: because I like you, Rashaana. I think it's important that 66 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: people know where you come from. Sfer times and entertainers 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and athletes and successful people. We just see the shiny, 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: glossy them, you know, we see the Instagram pictures where 69 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: everything is perfect hair makeup, that you know that they 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: got the whip, they got everything going for them, But 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: we don't get to see the hard work, you know, 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: the obstacles, the challenges, UH that got them where they are. 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: So I always like to remind people, you know, don't 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: look at me where I am now, learned a little 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: about where I started from, because that's what I think 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: will motivate someone who feels like they can't get from 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: point A to point B because it seems so far off, 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: it seems so overwhelming. But when you know that people 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: you admired and look up to started off most of us, 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: many of us, you know, no field re spoons. No, 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, legacy admission to Harvard, you know, no uh, 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: recommendation letters from my uncle that had been there, you know, 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: two generations before me. So I think people need to 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: know that. So I'm proud of you know, and I'll 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: tell you this story. I did a book signing the 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: same words to making Ring, and I grew up in 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: a housing project called the car Square Village. It was 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: a woman that came up to me after that book signed. 89 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: She said, a Revie had been so embarrassed to ever 90 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: tell anyone I grew up in the car Square. But 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: tonight when I heard you on that stage in front 92 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: of this predominantly white audience at a college in the 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: suburbs of saying, well, she says, when I heard you 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: talk so proudly about growing up there, she says, I'll 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: never ever denied where I came from, and I will 96 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: talk openly about that. This woman is a successful nurse, 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: She was in a medical professional and she says she 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: and her sister basically denied where they grew up, but 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: hearing me talk about it so proudly gave her, in 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: some ways permission to, you know, share her background. So 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: that's That's what I hope I do by sharing my 102 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: story is give other people permission to talk about whatever 103 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: it is that they have to overcome to get where 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: they are today. We know the interesting thing about sharing, 105 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: you know, because I was managing Steve all those years 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: of just hearing him just lay his story out to 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: the general public. And that was difficult. You know, not 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: everybody knows social me. You can't hide anything, so you 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: might will share because you know how much money you 110 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: make and they're gonna google your house, you know, get 111 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: down to go in your backyard right right right then 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: security Now, if you're careful, let know that too. So 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: so you know, because we all are. This is what 114 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I take away from your personality. Okay, very well, very 115 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: very well educated, very well spoken, but there's an edge 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: in your personality where you really do understand where you 117 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: came from, and you're not you're not afraid to admit that. 118 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: That's how I am. I'm from fifth Ward, Texas, you know, 119 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: to bear Room, shotgun house six US, just two brothers. 120 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: My father there was a truck driver, has a third 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: grade education. My mom graduated from high school. That was 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: that was That was my resume and I will tell 123 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: people that and not just to let everybody know that 124 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not special. That's first of all. I want to 125 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: just lay that out there. I'm not special because I've 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: been in environments where people look at me like I'm unique, 127 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: and they look at me like, oh, you're different from them, 128 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: and that's what those the stereotypes. But I understand that you, truly, 129 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm a clean understanding that there's a success lane and 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: there's an everyday lane and you and you balance both 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: of them, because absolutely, you're right, we're not. I definitely 132 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: don't feel special. What I tell people is I just 133 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: go to work. The joke in my house is Mom 134 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: and my husband say, I think the answer to every 135 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: problem is another job, right right, right right. That's the 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: craziest in the family. And my first question is do 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: they have a job? Do they have a second job? 138 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of a running joke, Like, Mom, 139 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: the answer to everything is not a job, I says, well, 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: it'll solve a lot of problems, trust me, and just 141 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: multiple straies of income. And it also allows you to 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: understand that you're not you're not uh, you're not linked 143 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: to somebody else's success or failure. If you're deciding all 144 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: your overall income by by several platforms, and that's what 145 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: you're doing right now. Because I wanted, because I want 146 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: to slide over to we're gonna talk about because I 147 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: got two breaks with you. We're gonna talk about the 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: TV show. But you have so much and I guess, 149 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: like you're on the show, your journey in entrepreneurship, your 150 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: journey and education, your background enables me to say I 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: want them to hear a full scope. Make It Rain, 152 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: the very popular book that came out in March that 153 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: you wrote, and it tells people how to take advantage 154 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: of the media to build your brand. That's what money 155 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: making conversations about. I got to had to get you 156 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: on this show to talk and talk about that book. 157 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Talk about that book. Well, I'm excited about Making Rain. 158 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: You're right. It was published by the Shed Book Group 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: in March. It's a national best seller. It hit the 160 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: top of a ton of best sellers list when it 161 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: came out. It's been doing really, really well. I traveled 162 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: the countries from March till about literally just September, doing 163 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: bok convinced with the hundreds sometimes styles of people. I 164 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: did Urban League, I was at a conference of public administrators. 165 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I've been at a ton of women empowerment conferences, including 166 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: a wonderful conference in Malwa, had been to Chicago, St. Louis. 167 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about how amazing it is this this is 168 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: my third book and my second book. I sat in 169 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: bookstores Rashan with like two people, people praying like, you know, 170 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: trying to play it off like I really wasn't ever 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: during a book sign when nobody showed up. And I'm 172 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: just I'm so blessed. And I tell this story because 173 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: I tell people, you know, I was told on my 174 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: second book that I would never get a third book 175 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: deal because my second book, although a wonderful book, it 176 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: wasn't position right, it wasn't marketed properly, and it didn't 177 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: sound well. And so this book, I had a totally 178 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: different approach to how I was going to get out 179 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and reach people. And one of my ways was, you know, 180 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: going to where people are not sitting in the bookstore 181 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: hoping somebody will show up up. But I actually went 182 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: to conferences wherever were already gonna be hundreds and hundreds 183 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,119 Speaker 1: of people, so if I could make sure I connected 184 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: with folks. But but this book has been a labor 185 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: of love for me, talking about how I used the 186 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: media to grow my own practice, my own legal practice, 187 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: how I've used the media to go from being an 188 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: unpaid death expert to uh someone who now has multiple 189 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: contracts with networks in the media, and just how you 190 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: can you know, find your brand and amplify you and 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: don't get the talk show now you know, and you 192 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: know when you have so much to talk about, you 193 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: need a hype man like ra Sean McDonald to remind you. 194 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm a hype man. This is the showy main conversation 195 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: is your hype man show? Now? The title of the book? 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Now that that I love that title? Okay, Well, there 197 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: in discussions were discussions about that title, because it really 198 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: is about the title of the book. Was like a 199 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: lady to think like a man. We sold three million copies. 200 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: Much debate on that title when we when we were 201 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: putting it together. So I know a title can do 202 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot for a book and also connects explain the 203 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: direction of a book, and I thought they just fit 204 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: with this book so well. So tell us how you 205 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: came up with that title and associated with this book. Well, 206 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I got a lot of pushback. 207 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes publishers get a little you know, get a little answer, 208 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: little hansitant because making rain. If you google it, you 209 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: may get some strip club might people throw our money 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: up in the air. But I was okay with that. 211 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: I was like, great, that just means the title is 212 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: already out of the university because I wasn't afraid of 213 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: it because I knew when you looked at my picture, 214 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna see I wasn't stripper. That's okay, But that's 215 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, that 216 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: that independent nature of yours. You know, you can keep 217 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: it regular and you keep it successful, but you're so 218 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: confident in yourself. You're very confident in yourself. No, and 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: that means that you'll I'm gonna slide a little bit. 220 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. But that means that your husband 221 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: has to be stronger. But it hasn't have a strong 222 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: personality too. Oh absolutely absolutely does Martin and Martin Law Firm. 223 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Got to be Martin and Martin, 224 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, together to understanding that you can go out 225 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: and do your thing and you can be successful and 226 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: you're still understand the values of partnership both are in marriage, 227 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: but from motherhood, both in parenting and both in responsibility. 228 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: That's an important role in leading that balanced life that 229 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: I've Really when I was doing my additional work on 230 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: your your name on your brand pops out. Yeah. No, 231 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: I have three kids, are proud to say, and one 232 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: of my children, my youngest son, already actually has special 233 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: needia as autism. So my second book was really about 234 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: my journey as a mom. I'm a child with autism. 235 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: So I took that, which was very very very painful 236 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: and hurtful for our family when we got a diagnosis. 237 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I took that and turn it into 238 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: something where I now run a nonprofit specialties network. So 239 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: as devastated as I was by my son's diagnosis, I 240 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: I God didn't want me to stay in that place 241 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: of that kind of self pity and depression, and he 242 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: helped moved me from that place of anguish to a 243 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: place of advocacy where you know, now I helped other parents. 244 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: And so what PEO, we're gonna do. We're gonna come 245 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: right back the next Our next break will be strictly 246 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: about the talk show because I wanted to understand who 247 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: she was. We'll be back with more money making conversations. 248 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: I my guests on the phone, is the co host 249 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: on the new daytime syndicated talk show Face the Truth, 250 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: which is from Dr Fields Production Company. It's a conflict 251 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: resolution show with a panel up experts to help people 252 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: sort out their personal problems. There are the problems in life. 253 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: Face the Truth is unscripted and promptu helping real people, 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: real issues. Premiered Monday, September ten on CBS. Now I 255 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: have on the phone, Please welcome back to the show. 256 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: A Reva Martin, A Reva Okay, you got you've done 257 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: three books mother three uh law firm Martin and Martin. 258 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: I I discovered you personally. I'm gonna claim you seeing 259 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: that that's what I'm ann claim. I claim her. You 260 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, claim her in. You know when 261 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: she was just a Reva Martin, not your Reva. You 262 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know? So, she expanded, We're 263 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a after while when you get big. If 264 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: everybody hey hey, no, no, no, hey, hey what's hey? 265 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: So tell us about this show and your co host 266 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and how did they get started, 267 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: How they get started? And why did you do it? 268 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Why did you do it? Well? I started my entree 269 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: into TV. I'm a trial boy for many years, but 270 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: I started a TV one daytime with Dr Till. I 271 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: started as a commentator, legal commentator and expert of children's 272 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: rights at expert on Dr Phil. And then I left 273 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: for several years and got heavily into cable TV, into 274 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the more hard hitting news that happens on cable at night, 275 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: and started doing you know, everything from police shootings to 276 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: politics to raise uh. And I love that stuff, you know. 277 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I I love being a part of these big national 278 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: conversations that are happily on the Me to Move and 279 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: now the you know, the nomination of Brett CoV and 280 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I I love having to bring my boy back to 281 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: that an African American woman as a woman from an 282 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: underserved community, uh, you know, as a woman that that 283 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: has just lived through some stuff. I think that's a 284 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: perspective that needs to be a part of those big conversations. 285 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: But I fell in love the TV in daytime watching 286 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Dr Phil help real people with real problems transform their lives. 287 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: So when I have an opportunity to be a co 288 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: host on face the truth. I jumped at it because 289 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: that's where my heart is helping everyday people. And we 290 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: get people in conflict, husbands and wives, mother and daughters, 291 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: best friends. Uh, you know, people who are trying to 292 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: put the pieces back, maybe after a substance abuse issue, 293 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: maybe after the death of a child or death of 294 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: a loved one, maybe after some kind of financial scam 295 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: has happened to them, and they're just looking for answers. 296 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: And what I love about the show is you get 297 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: five strong voices that give their perspective, but were everybody 298 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: goes home. Uh, it's not ellen where we're giving the audience, 299 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, cars and big gets like you know the 300 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: Oprah Show used to do. But we give the people 301 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: in prices. We give them help. So it could be 302 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: thirty day you know, rehab program that would be otherwise 303 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: unaffordable to someone who's going through substance abuse, six months 304 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: of family therapy and counseling. Uh, you know, job coaching, 305 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: financial planning, coaching. He's given spot trips, we've given vacations, 306 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: so just resources. You know, we don't just send people 307 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: away like you know, go do what we tell you 308 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: to do, but we say here, do what we tell 309 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: you to do, and and here's some professional help to 310 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: help you do what we tell you to do. So 311 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: I like that. It keeps me ground, It keeps me 312 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: again working with you know, real people. Uh. And fortunately 313 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I get to do that and still be a part 314 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: of CNN and you know, be a part of these 315 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: big you know, uh, conversations that are happening, uh that 316 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really shaping our nation. So I'd like 317 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: to say I have the best of both rules in 318 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: that I get to help real people, but I also 319 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: get to help shape the conversation and narrative around things 320 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: that impact real people. Well that's that's important because you know, 321 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Steve or whatever launched this talk show in Chicago, Steve Harvard, 322 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: and you know, one of the things that we wanted 323 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: to do was I love the fact that you you 324 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: bring resolution because you you bring people on and you 325 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: can't solve their problems and forty two minutes and you 326 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: can't solve it in a one eight minute segment. And 327 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: so I love that. That's what I like about the show. 328 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: At least there is let me just say this, at 329 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: least there is an attempt to be able to fix 330 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: a problem when you to bring them on the show, 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: and it's not being exploited because we know television it's 332 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: entertainment at least at least their mechanism in place on 333 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: this show that say you come over here, we got 334 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: we got, we've got people over here, and we were 335 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: making a sincere effort that when you walk, we're not here. 336 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: This is not about you know, because a lot of 337 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of shows will make that 338 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, nless they say a shotgun you know, uh 339 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: guess you know, they come over there, they come over 340 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: one thing, they's doomed. There's just to explore them. That's 341 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: that's what the show did. Did you have an impact 342 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: input on how to show that the format of the 343 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: show not so much an impact on the format, but 344 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: we definitely get to weigh in as the host in 345 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: terms of the help that we give to guests. So 346 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: we see a story and we think that guests need 347 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: particularly you know, kind of help, we can weigh in 348 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: and make sure they get that help. And you're right, 349 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of shows bring people on to exploit their stories, 350 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: but we clear a lot of people come on TV 351 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: because they just want that opportunity to you know, and 352 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: now with social media to take the pictures and say 353 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: they were on TV. You know. But like I said, 354 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: for us this show, we have a whole aftercare department. 355 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: So when you leave that stage, you meet immediately with 356 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: an aftercare professional who's a you know, a licensed professional, 357 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: and they are hooking you up with the services. Uh. 358 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: So you do get if you want to get out 359 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: of your situation, whether it's a weight loss, Like we 360 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: just have a guy on head of you know, horrible, 361 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, more of really obese. You know, we hooked 362 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: him up with a gym membership. We hooked him up 363 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: with some counseling to help him, you know, dig a 364 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: little deeper about what was you know, causing a weight 365 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: We've even got him, uh like a thousand dollars worth 366 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: of healthy meals delivered to his home. So I mean 367 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: you walk away with the beginning of what you will 368 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: need to change your life. Talking about the co host 369 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Soldier show, how did that? How did how did they 370 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: how did they come about? Well, Vivica, that's my friend. 371 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Now I want to let you know, how are you 372 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: are you guys just still taking the show now? We're yeah, 373 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: we're on break this week, but we take usually three 374 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: weeks out of every month, and we take two big Thursdays. 375 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: You see telling you did Roshan McDonald's show. Okay, that's 376 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: a friend. Okay, so know that, you know, you get 377 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: in my circle now. Yeah. Vivica is great. She has 378 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: We honored her the nonprofit that I run. We gave 379 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: her an Icon Award in May because of this great 380 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: work she's done over so many decades. But she's fantastic. 381 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: And then we have a doctor. Her name is Dr 382 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: Jucky Hell. She's life was clinical psychology. So we have 383 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: people that really know what they're talking about. We have 384 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: a former, a retired judge, she was Gonna Fench in Michigan, 385 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: Ry Mary. And then we have a life coach. Her 386 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: name is Rosie Mercado and she's a woman who's had 387 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: her own journey with weightlars. She was over four hundred 388 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: pounds and she lost over a hundred yeah fifty pack hound. 389 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Just so so you get all of these different, uh, 390 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, people coming from you know, their different perspectives 391 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: coming together to give this advice. So I think that's 392 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: what makes the show unique. Everybody has their own different journey, 393 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: the different angle, the way they see the problems that 394 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the guests have. Uh, and you know the way we 395 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: think because like I said, I became a fan of 396 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: your talents on CNN, and that's a different tone, you 397 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's a different that's a different layer. 398 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: And so I'm just trying to find out because it's 399 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: about using the media to build your brand, and you're 400 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: you're your your layered and so many different angles on 401 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: television and then the media and perception. Who what brand 402 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: do you want to everything? What makes you like a 403 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: let Just using example Steve already he was known for 404 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: being a comedian and then I think he became author 405 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: or personality or radio personality, and I was able to 406 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: shape that as an entertainer. Okay, entertainer you are. You 407 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: have a law firm, your mom, I said this, your mom, 408 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: Your legal analysts don't tell a vision. Okay. Now you 409 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: have this show and it's conflict driven and then you're 410 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: sharing the meet you're sharing the emotions in the format 411 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: with other talented people. How do you shape your brand 412 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: out of that to pop out? How do you how 413 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: do you make that work for you? And that's a 414 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: really good question. So at the heart of like you 415 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: said speed that the heart is a comedian. At the 416 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: heart of me, I'm an advocate, so I'm you know, 417 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: my legal training you know helps me, you know, discerning 418 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: what your legal issues may be. But at the heart 419 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: of it, I'm an advocate for under certain people. So 420 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for that angle. I'm always looking for, 421 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, how can I help someone go to that 422 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: next level? How do I so on the show? You know, 423 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of the cheerleader person, so after I beat 424 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: you up, I'm gonna be the person who's gonna build 425 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: you back up. Uh. So I'm gonna give you some 426 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: tough club, but I'm also gonna be that person sharing 427 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: and rooting for you. Uh. And that's what I do. 428 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: You know, whether I'm doing hard hitting news. Can you 429 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: say that to tell you I'm a marketing brandy guy. 430 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: You're an advocate for the unserved, You're champion for the undog, 431 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: for the underdog. That's you. If you please tell them 432 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: to put that because that is so that is so you. 433 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: And when you said that, I just lit up because, 434 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: first of all, when you said I believe it, your 435 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: results of it, and you have a career that says 436 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: I tell the truth. So when you say you're an advocate, 437 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: because I saw that nowhere in your paperwork, and I 438 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: want you to say that that is something I want 439 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: you to continually say. I wanted you to build on that. 440 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I want to the big part of your legacy because 441 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: that is part of a brand that you can take 442 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: to the next level with your career. And I'm saying 443 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: you need ra Sean McDonald's help, but believe me, with 444 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald give us advice, a lot of people 445 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: do listen, and I've listened to Rashan McDonald. Man. I'm 446 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: writing that down because that's not in my paperwork because 447 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: I say that conflict. You read my book, if you 448 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: read anything that I've so you know we're gonna make 449 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: sure because I'm just telling you. That's what I'm just 450 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: trying to say. When I when I I want to 451 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: call your family, I want to call you a person 452 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: that I've always been a fan of. Not having money 453 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: making conversations allowed me to meet so many people that 454 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I've been cheering on the outside. It's amazing. My wife, 455 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: she looked at me. I said, she's good, she's talent 456 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: it she's she said, what'd you stop? I said, well, 457 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: she did this, she can be there. But I was 458 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: just telling you already there, and that's just a note 459 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: and trying to understand your brand and saying that you're 460 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: an advocate. An advocate, that's such a powerful word for 461 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: your brand, and please use it all the time. Okay, 462 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: Reva all, I will thank you absolutely. I received that 463 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: one thing about me. I tell people all the time. 464 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, you know show business, the show business people 465 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: is a big echo chamber. Just tell you over and 466 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: over again, how wonderful, how great? 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