1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, We'll buckle up, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: sweet cheeks. What we've got all the experience in the world. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: This is I. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: Want your flex. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: With Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: down everything you need to set your lineups, from position rankings. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: To starts and sits. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: let's get your flexod Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: The Thanksgiving feast is over. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 4: Hopefully your fantasy football team feasted in Week thirteen. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: It's winning time. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 4: Some leagues entering the final week of their regular season. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: Others a couple of more to go. You got Fantasy 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: Daily Fantasy contest going on. Survivor is starting to wind down. 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: Guillotine leagues are getting slimmer and slimmer. 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: It is time of the year. It is December. Welcome in. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: Hit Mike up at Swollen, don't find me at Dan 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: byer on five and find our executive producer, Ian Roddy 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 4: at Ian Roddy Underscore and Mike. Week thirteen provided a 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: lot of excitement. It just felt like it happened to 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: the first four games of the week. On Thursday and Friday. 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: Well, it just did. 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 5: It was interesting coming in Sunday morning to do the 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: show with Greg Cosell. That was kind of the open. 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 5: We go, well, how do we top the four games 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 5: we already had. Now, we had some moments, we had 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 5: some big plays, everybody got reintroduced to Treylon Burks on 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 5: Sunday night and things of that nature. But overall, yeah, 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 5: I mean, the first four games were just so captivating, 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 5: so heavy in stakes for the actual NFL world. But 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 5: I got to think in a lot of cases, I 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: certainly had it. In one of the key matchups I 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: was tracking. A lot of the principles were done by 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: Friday afternoon. It's like, all right, well we got got 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: a kicker in a defense or whatever, but most of 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 5: the principals had already played out. 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: It was crazy, actually, because those games also produced points. 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: Even you know, your Bears had two one hundred yard rushers. 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: Aj Brown went off on Friday, as you alluded to. 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 4: And then we had the Packers and Lions playing a 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 4: nice high scoring affair. Cowboys and Chiefs answered the bell 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: as well, and then Joe Burrow comes back those couple 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: of touchdown passes Jamar Chase over one hundred yards. 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a fun four games over 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: that span. 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: The funny thing about it, as I thought Sunday night 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: was such a letdown, no disrespect to the Broncos and Commanders, 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: but then they maybe play the most exciting game of 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 4: the week and going into overtime and then the two 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: point conversion the return of Terry McLaurin for the Commanders, 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: I know, too little, too late, but fantasy wise, and 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 4: put him in a lineup and he ended up coming 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: through for me. So even the back end of Week 57 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: thirteen was was pretty good with some mentioning McLaurin coming back, 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 4: some names coming back in the fold in addition to 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, we started seeing a little bit of happier charge, 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: right CJ. Stroud gets back on the field. While he 62 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 5: didn't put up a big fantasy day, you just say, Okay, 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: there's at least another another potential weapon and a guy 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 5: that we had counted on beginning of the year. Sorry, 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 5: Davis Mills, I celebrate your entire catalog, but you know, 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: when we go back and we have our laundry list 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 5: of guys that have started at least one game it's 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: nice to get those familiar names back in. I don't 69 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 5: know that there was a more anticipated return though, than 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow on Thursday Night, because honestly, on both sides 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: of that equation when you look at him and Lamar Jackson. 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: I went into that game and I'm like, I have 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: no idea what I'm about to watch, which is exciting 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: and kind of weird when you're in week thirteen of 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: a season, right, It's like, I don't know. Chase Brown 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: goes over one hundred total yards. Again, Burrow looks good 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: and confidence says all the right things. No t Higgins, 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: but Yoshavash with the big twenty nine yard touchdown reception. 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 5: But just all the mixing and matching, and you look 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: at some of the strange bedfellows, and we talk about 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: this all the time as the year goes on, just 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: how weird it catch? Right, Tarrod Taylor's your number seven 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: quarterback for the week. Ad Ni Mitchell a guy whose 84 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 5: names on your lips not for dropping the ball, but hmm, 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: is he a guy that I can ansert as my 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 5: WR three down the stretch question mark? 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Right? 88 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 5: Marcus Marioto, we mentioned him with the big game that 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: he had he was third, and just go on down 90 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: the line, just all sorts of just absolute oddities across 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: the fantasy realm. In the running back room. 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: RJ. 93 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 5: Harvey had the big night, Chewba Hubbard was back as 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: a stud for a week. Now they're on a bye 95 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: week for week fourteen, so you can't ride that new 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: Hothand but what does that mean because we had all 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 5: celebrated and built statues de Rico dowdele gone and it's 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 5: out of a knight finishes as a high RB two. 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: Welcome back Bucky Irving right there. So it's some happy returns, 100 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: but also some uncertain landscape in receiving cores and in 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: the running back rooms that may shake up the stretch 102 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: run and leave folks with some big conundrums in the 103 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 5: back end of the rosters. 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 4: You know, I'll just I'll start there since he said 105 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: his name in Bucky Irving, because Tampa is really interesting 106 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 4: to me. 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: So they beat Arizona in Week. 108 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: Thirteen in a game where statistically Arizona was the better 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: team fantasy wise. There was more production from there, but 110 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: you mentioned Irving ends up taking over the workload in 111 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: that backfield and his first came back, and honestly, they'd 112 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: kept him out long enough so you would hope that 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: he would be fresh, but there was no easing him 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: back into action. But what's also interesting here with Tampa 115 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 4: is Mike Evans could be coming back sooner rather than later. 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: The possibility that Todd Bowles had mentioned on Monday of 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: of Evans possibly returning to practice sound more promising. 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: Now. 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to see him against the 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: Saints in Week fourteen. 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: However, if he's. 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: Been in your lineup and you're entering the playoffs a 123 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: week fifteen, a week sixteen could be realistic. I just 124 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: hope that Baker Mayfield's all in one piece. But Tampa 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: could be a team that we thought at the beginning 126 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 4: of the year would be a fantasy gold and now 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: they're starting to get some of their pieces back. 128 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: If just Baker can stay healthy. 129 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: Well, I now you have a word that Jalen McMillan's 130 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: getting back on the practice. 131 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, him as well. 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: Here arns right. 133 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: It's a ramp up and more a longer tail to 134 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: where for fantasy purposes, may not be ready in time 135 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: to where you'd trust him in a lineup. But if 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: he's on the field, suddenly it makes Evans or Godwin 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 5: or insert option here that much better. 138 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it is one of the things that 139 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: I think. It was one of the games on Sunday 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: that ended up kind of being lost. But you talk 141 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 4: about Bam Knight coming through Trey McBride, excuse me, Trey 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: McBride as I can say it in my German accent, 143 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: just like the fans in Germany. He continues to produce 144 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: at Marvin Harrison Junior and Jacoby Brissett. By the way, 145 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: the Cardinals side of things, there's gonna be no Kyler 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: Murray this week, so you don't have to worry about 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: him taking anything, as they will welcome the Rams to 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: town on Week fourteen. 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, just I thought that. 150 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: Game was interesting from the schedule where it kind of 151 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: just blended in with everything else after the great games 152 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: earlier of the week. Mike, what stood out to you 153 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: elsewhere in Week thirteen in the NFL season? 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: Well, I think just that we're at that dividing line 155 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: even looking ahead to Week fourteen, where you've got six 156 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 5: matchups of teams that have winning records, and that's where 157 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: we're at week to week it's just such a roller coaster. Again, 158 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: I'm not doing that just because I'm looking at my 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: scorecard and all the red ink and curiosities right of 160 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 5: what a coulda should have. But it's more just a 161 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: I don't know which team is showing up for a 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: lot of these squads, and maybe it's just the recency 163 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: bias I felt in years past, at this point we 164 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: usually had a pretty good idea of what kind of 165 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 5: effort we were going to get right and what kind 166 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: of statistically where we were going to go. I mentioned 167 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: the toad Taylor, Well, I didn't expect him to be 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: a dud, but to finish as a top five, top 169 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 5: seven pit player for the week kind of stood out 170 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: to me. The happy returns and some of these other 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: big performances, the receiving corps and trying to parse through 172 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 5: has just been really interesting, right, Dantavian Wicks, all right, 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: we're waiting on Jayden Reid, We're waiting on big efforts 174 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 5: from Christian wattson Nope over there so that guy, and 175 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 5: trying to pick your poison on some of these receiving corps. 176 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: And sometimes we can look at a defense and say, Okay, 177 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 5: they're gonna play him, So we like the number two option. 178 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: But then you have teams like Green Bay, which we've 179 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: lamented the way they operate going back to last year 180 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 5: with those cool graphics of here's eight guys with four 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: hundred plus receiving yards. That doesn't help me fantasy wise 182 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 5: down the stretch to where Okay, Jordan Love I can say, Okay, 183 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 5: he's gonna have a great game. Who's scoring, I don't know, 184 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: And that's and that's a tough place to be. 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially is you know, like in the Green Bay situation, 186 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 4: if Tucker Craft was healthy, you'd feel comfortable with him, 187 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: and you feel comfortable with Josh Jacobs, but yeah, otherwise 188 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: you don't know. And even within within that four, like 189 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: like Dan Davian Wicks has always been the one. He's like, 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: look out for him, look out for him, and it's just, yeah, 191 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: there's really no reason to play him. But to your point, 192 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: you never know on where these second, third, and fourth 193 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: guys which end up mak it, you know, soda and frustrating. 194 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 4: You mentioned the Jets and Ian's team and it's not 195 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: a Jets comment, but the Jets, like Minnesota in Week thirteen, 196 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: had no business having Brozemer on the field like there 197 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: was that was that was just a train. 198 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 5: Wreck, unconscidable. As much as I love the biomedical student, 199 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: and I watched a bunch of vignettes about him dan 200 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: Ian to learn who he was beyond the Van Dijk Beard, Wow, 201 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: that was terrible. 202 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: That's that that stuff shouldn't be happening in the National 203 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: Football League. That's you know, Nathan Peterman esque. And unfortunately 204 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 4: Nathan Peterman never shook that from his career. Nope, right, 205 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: like he had stuck around in the league for a while. 206 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: But the five interceptions that Nathan Peterman threw his Rookie 207 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: of the Year, we have never forgotten that, and we 208 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: are never going to forget Max Brosmer's four interceptions, including 209 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: the awful skyhook that he threw to Ernest Jones. The 210 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: fourth I was ran back for a touchdown. But the 211 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 4: reason I bring up the Jets and the reason I 212 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: bring up the Vikings is there are bad teams out there, 213 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: and now it's trying to decipher who is bad and 214 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: playing tough and who's ready to pack this baby in 215 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: and you know, call it a season. And I don't 216 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: think Minnesota is there with McCarthy coming back, But the 217 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: Jets sure aren't packing it up and packing it in 218 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: and moving on with their season. So like when I'm 219 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: even looking at Survivor pools or you're looking at you know, 220 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: other matchups of streaming defenses or whatever, like, the Jets 221 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: to me are a team where, all right, I'm not 222 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: loading up because this team is actually competitive and there's 223 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: something to play for. So you got to find those 224 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: teams around the National Football League over these next couple 225 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: of weeks that you just kind of feel are just 226 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: punting on the rest of the season, you see. 227 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 5: And that's the curiosity of where we've been with this is, 228 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 5: you know, go back to Miami a few weeks back. 229 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: It seemed like they were at that point, and now 230 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: they've won what four or five? 231 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: Has it been? 232 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: Pretty right? 233 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 5: They still have a puncher's chance to finish as a 234 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 5: wildcard squad. That's how messed up the standing and that's 235 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 5: why this is beautiful, Like this year has been fantastic. 236 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 6: Not even certain McDaniel's getting fired anay no, but that's just. 237 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 5: It, right, He's probably gonna get a stay of execution. 238 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 5: They do some shuffling around because they're fighting for him, 239 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: and then you get the videos of like Deebo, Samuel 240 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 5: and former players coming up and hugging him and seeking 241 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: him out wherever he is on a field, Like there's 242 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 5: there's a lot more there. Like, he's a guy and 243 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: we've talked about it. He's an interesting SoundBite. He's a 244 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 5: guy that if you said, all right, pick three guys 245 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 5: to sit and have a beer with in the NFL, 246 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: he's on my metal stand for Like, I have no 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: idea what we talk about, but I'm sure it would 248 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: be fascinating as hell, and I like love to ask 249 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: him some offensive questions, no question, But like I'm looking 250 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: at a lot of these teams and I'm not seeing 251 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: where the definitive give up is, like even New Orleans. 252 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: Right, we talk about Chuck for his you know. 253 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: Top twelve Fantasy format vala Olave wasn't supposed to go. 254 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: He's out scoring a touchdown. 255 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: Now he missed another play that he would make probably 256 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: in his sleep ninety nine times. But that one hundred 257 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 5: that falls incomplete. I mean, Pittsburgh and Baltimore they're not good, 258 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 5: but they're battling going Like. 259 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: Even the Raiders they're terrible. 260 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 5: They're firing everybody and leaving pieces off, but you know, 261 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: they're they're still showing a little bit of fight. Do 262 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 5: I trust anybody outside of Bowers at this point. No, 263 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 5: But but it's just that that, you know, there's still 264 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: so much chaos in the league, Like Arizona, they're still 265 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: coming at you. Jacoby Brissett, Marvin Harrison Junior was back 266 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 5: on the field, you know finished, you know what, set 267 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 5: near seventy yards or thereabouts. So they're still gonna come 268 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: and punch, and if nothing else, cam Ward's gonna. 269 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: Talk a good game at the podium. So yeah, I 270 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: mean they're terrible. 271 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's really nothing redemptive that we can find there. 272 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 5: Tony Pollard, I think is averaging a fall down in 273 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 5: one scoot. 274 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: God, so about three yards. 275 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: I feel stupid for even mentioning on a podcast last 276 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: week that I thought that Titans could have a chance 277 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: to take down the Jaguars like it is. 278 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: That is just a bad handicap. 279 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: That's a bad analysis by me because they don't have anything. 280 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: And I'm looking at the five teams that are eliminated 281 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: from the playoffs that have officially been eliminated, Titans are 282 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: one of them. But in the NFC Cardinals, Saints and 283 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: Giants and Giants have a buy coming up in the 284 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: in week fourteen. But it's just the fact of I 285 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: don't think any of those teams are quitting. You mentioned 286 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: the Saints in their fight back and Tyler Shuck and 287 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: what he's done. I think the Raiders are done. I 288 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: mean Ian Rappaport saying that the front office is like, 289 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: play the rookies. Pete Carroll's like, uhh, We're not gonna 290 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: do that. We're gonna gonna keep on fighting. There sure 291 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: seems to be a disconnect there, not only with Carroll 292 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: and Chip Kelly but everybody else. But yeah, those teams 293 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: in the NFC right now, there's a couple of those. Again, 294 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: I'd rather face Kyler Murray and the Cardinals than Jacoby 295 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: Weresett the Cardinals even though they're three and nine. 296 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 5: No, that's it, right, And Kyler Murray was completing That's 297 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 5: the scary thing is like he was completing two thirds 298 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: of his past attempts, but they were for nothing, right, Yeah, 299 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: pushing the ball down the field not scary with your legs. 300 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 5: I really you know, we're not going to do it here, 301 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: But I think I really want more expository writing on 302 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: the Chip Kelly stuff. I found some of those little 303 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 5: quips and quotes about how things were going on in 304 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: those offensive meeting rooms very fascinating. 305 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we can dive into a little bit more 306 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: of that after our time out. Because when he's not 307 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: even getting the play calls correctly because Carroll's trying to 308 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: run a different offense, man, pure. 309 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Chaos in Las Vegas. 310 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: How about that? 311 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: But that's how they love it? 312 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: All right, we are going to take a time out 313 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: more of what happened in week thirteen and looking ahead 314 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: to the week fourteen and the playoffs. 315 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: All of it's coming up next here. And I want 316 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: your flex. 317 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: It is, I want your flex at Mike up at 318 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: Swollen don't find me at Dan Bayer on Fox, and 319 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: you can hit Ian Roddy, our executive producer up at 320 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: Ian Roddy Underscore. Mike and I threw some stuff out 321 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: that we thought peaud our interest in week thirteen. 322 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Ian, Now it's your turn. What stood up for you 323 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: this past weekend? 324 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, there were a few things I wrote down. One 325 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: that we might have seen the last of the high 326 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: powered version of the Colts offense that we've kind of 327 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 6: become accustomed to by this point. Yes, obviously Daniel Jones 328 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 6: having the broken fibula, you know, plays a big role 329 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 6: in that. But they just don't look the same in 330 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 6: any facet at this point. And if you look at 331 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 6: the upcoming schedule that they have, it's pretty brutal. They 332 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 6: still have to play the Jaguars twice, They have the Seahawks, Dan, 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: your Seahawks, they have to play the Texan still like 334 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 6: it's just a it's a gauntlet coming up. They're now 335 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 6: tied at the top of the division when they had 336 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 6: that comfortable leads. So I don't even know if to 337 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 6: make the playoffs. 338 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Daniel Jones thing, I said it on Sunday. 339 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: If if Daniel Jones can't run, the Colts are done. 340 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: It's my Johnny Cochrane, that's that's and that was the case. 341 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: He ran once, he ran once for one yard. Yeah, 342 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: And it doesn't make it then easier for him to 343 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: throw the football if he's just because that's not who 344 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: he is. But I think that this has this has 345 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 4: something to do with that leg injury. He ran it 346 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: three times against the Chiefs, but just the one carry 347 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: against the Texans, and again Texans are a good defense, 348 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: but you have to be able to be mobile. You 349 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: have to be able to move, and to your point, 350 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 4: it takes away at dimension when you're playing away, you're 351 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: playing against these better teams, they take it away, and 352 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: then the Colts just don't look as dangerous, even with 353 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. 354 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. But something else I wrote down a Mecca book. 355 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 6: He's quietly been really disappointing since his hot week five exactly. Yeah, 356 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 6: since his hot start to the year, and no one's 357 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 6: really talked about it much. He's still a top ten 358 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 6: receiver on the year just because of how well he started, 359 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 6: but he's had three straight stinkers now, and then before 360 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 6: that he did have a big game against New England 361 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 6: where he had twenty three Fantasy points, but before that 362 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: he had another three straight stinkers. So he's pretty inconsistent 363 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 6: right now. Like obviously he had that awesome start to 364 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 6: the year when it was every week he was catching 365 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 6: a touchdown. He's Baker's guy, but I don't know now. 366 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 6: I don't know now. He's still good, but it's like 367 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 6: it should be his show. 368 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 5: In my cryptic note sending him to the Sin bin 369 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 5: for the week thirteen had written down one game with 370 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: more than seven point eight points in his last six. 371 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I think I did read that stat correctly. 372 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: I may have botched others, but I know I may 373 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 4: have gotten it around it. I actually think I may 374 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: have gotten that one because it sounds like I felt 375 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: like I just had deja vu. 376 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 377 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: There, you go, you back in. Yeah. 378 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 4: I also think this he's a rookie. This at some 379 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 4: point it was going to even out. Whether it be 380 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: because of the lack of weapons that were around him 381 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: to also draw attention, I think is a part of it. 382 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: But I just think ultimately, yeah, that was probably going 383 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 4: to happen. And now it'll be curious to see if 384 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: the things that we talk about with the Buccaneers do 385 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 4: end up happening, and if Baker is healthy or healthy 386 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: enough to see how things go. I'm really curious because 387 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: they have the Saints coming to town. It's a prime 388 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 4: survivor pick opportunity as well. But if Baker's not one 389 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: hundred percent, yeah, you never know, it could happen against 390 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: a team like the Saints. So yeah, Mecca, because I 391 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: just I feel like the rookie portion of it just 392 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 4: kind of ended up coming bringing him back to life, 393 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: because that's what happens for rookies in the NFL. 394 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, he definitely gets a little bit of grace because 395 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 6: he's a rookie. I don't know. And then the last 396 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: thing I had, I don't think this is like some 397 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 6: out on a limb take right now. It's been all 398 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: over the place, But George Pickens, is it at least 399 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: worth having? The conversation is like, is he better than 400 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb? And that might be a wild question to ask, 401 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 6: and I'm not even sure that I believe it to 402 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 6: be the case yet, but man, he looks good and 403 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb has been having his drop issues that have 404 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 6: kind of played him throughout his career, and Pickings just 405 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 6: catches everything and he's Dack's go to guy right now. 406 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's going a little far 407 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 6: to say he's better than Ceedee Lamb, but I there 408 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: are most games he looks like the Cowboys wide receiver 409 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: one and Ceedee Lamb's on the same team. 410 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: So. 411 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that yeah, I think I will. 412 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 5: I still think it comes down to, you know, CD's 413 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 5: gonna be look number one. The drops certainly don't help. 414 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 5: But for Pickens that think he's the beneficiary of it. 415 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 5: I mean, look at the way defenses are are playing 416 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 5: given his past inconsistencies and temperamental issues like usually draw 417 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: the agitator corner that tries to jam and then gets 418 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: beaten up over the top. I think it's just the 419 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: most wonderful of circumstance to have a guy like ceed 420 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: Lamb with you. 421 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: A quarterback who's willing to put the ball up that too. 422 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 6: I just would say that when Ceedee Lamb was out 423 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 6: for those few games, Pickens didn't even miss a step. 424 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: The funny thing that I thought in the the win 425 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: the previous week for the Cowboys was Pickens was nine 426 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: for nine on targets to receptions against Philadelphia, and then 427 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: target CD was I think four of eleven in that game. 428 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: And then you go against the Chiefs and it flips 429 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: a little like Pickens caught six of the thirteen his way. 430 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: CD caught seven of the nine for the one hundred 431 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: and twelve in a touchdown. I don't know who is better. 432 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: I actually think like in a one on one situation, 433 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 4: I'd rather have Pickens making the play. I feel that 434 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: he's got a better ability to get the ball. I 435 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: think CD gets open, you know, more like in that way. 436 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: So but yeah, six and one hand half dozen in 437 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 4: the other. I mean I love them both. I think 438 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: most people do, and nobody now is even batting an eye. 439 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: They're both, you know, in absolute play and coming into 440 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: the season, I think that we had questions about Pickens 441 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: and he's absolutely answered it in every feasible situation we 442 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: could think of. 443 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we look at it overall. I mean, 444 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: you've got a two hundred point season. You had two 445 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 5: monster games accounting for fifty of that, right weeks eleven 446 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: and twelve, surrounding that thirteen point eight this last week, 447 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 5: and then three games with fewer than twelve before the bye. 448 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 5: So like there's a couple of really big performances. Ye like, 449 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 5: but it becomes the eye test of man, I like 450 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: watching the explosiveness here versus what the final production really is. 451 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 5: So trying to balance that as well, Right, But it 452 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 5: does help. You do have a guy in Dak who's 453 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: been magnificent all season long. Go back to what they 454 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 5: did with Javonte Williams and bringing him in and he's 455 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: been great. So you add that balance to it. At 456 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 5: ferguson running the seam. You got a lot of things 457 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: that you're able to pull as a puppeteer, and it's 458 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: worked masterfully. Like they're just so much fun to watch 459 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: as an offense right now. And I love the fact 460 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: that they're winning, which begets a billion other arguments about 461 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 5: what the Cowboys are this year, But I do like that, 462 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 5: like it's a fun talking point, right given the reputation 463 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 5: of CD and let's face it, George Pickens was a guy, 464 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 5: giant question mark when he showed. 465 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 6: Up, huge question mark. 466 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 5: But you look at Pittsburgh, but it's now the history 467 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 5: of wide receivers. At some point they all go nuts 468 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 5: clinical term of course, but like it's one. 469 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Guy after the next. Yes, the on the other side 470 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. 471 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: The other sideline of the Cowboys game on Thursday is 472 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: Kansas City. 473 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys view the Chiefs. 474 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: I think Thanksgiving was the anomaly and when you look 475 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: at their schedule, we didn't know how the backfield was 476 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: going to shake out. But again it was Kareem Hunt 477 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: backfield that Kansas City ended up having having it in 478 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: that contest. But now when you look at the Texans 479 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: you've got the Broncos another matchup with them on the 480 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: slate coming up. Sure, there's a matchup I believe with 481 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: Tennessee as well. But I think this is the this 482 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: is the this Chiefs team that I think we're going 483 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: to see over the next three or four weeks. Where 484 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: are you guys at with Kansas City? 485 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 5: Well, I'd love to see the deep ball back into 486 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 5: play and at least being able to make some hits 487 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 5: down field which was missing early now, Rice and while 488 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: Worthy hasn't popped with the consistency that we'd hope for 489 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 5: maybe a little more of him downfield because you are 490 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 5: establishing perhaps a little bit better of a run game. 491 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: But Checko coming back having a hunt that that perhaps 492 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 5: we see a little bit better worked out. I mean, 493 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes was the number one quarterback again, right, So 494 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 5: it's certainly for fantasy purposes, certainly not hurting him in 495 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey for all the folks that want him to 496 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: go away. 497 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: What is he number two on the year for tight 498 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: ends in terms of yardage? 499 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a bit of a resurgence right to 500 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: the position. 501 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I just look at the Chiefs 502 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 4: and I look at what Dallas provided, and Dallas provided 503 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: that opportunity of game and I don't think that game 504 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: script for Kansas City is coming up in their next 505 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: couple of weeks. 506 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 5: Now, you got huge through this week, which is which 507 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 5: is awful. I mean because the offensive line, what do 508 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 5: they have. They're down three starters, right. 509 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: Sus Simmons hurt now the rookie who's been pretty good. 510 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: So yeah, so going up against that defensive front, I mean, 511 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes has been a scramble god for you over 512 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 5: the course of the year as rushing yards or trying 513 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 5: to make things happen. He's really gonna need to be 514 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 5: on his game in that one. 515 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that truly is an elimination game for the Chiefs, right, 516 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: I mean, they've got right now, they're sitting there at 517 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: six and six. Current playoff probability according to NFL dot 518 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: Com is thirty three percent. And so if you lose 519 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: to the Texans, you here six and seven, you then 520 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: lose the tiebreaker to the Texans, who will end up 521 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 4: being eight and five in that scenario, and and you 522 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: have games against the Chargers and the Broncos coming up 523 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: later on. Like it's it's really difficult for them to 524 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: bounce back from and so trying to win a game, 525 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: trying to make sure you win that game, which is 526 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: so important. I think that the Chiefs are going to 527 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: want to just figure out how to win the game. 528 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: You don't need to be having Mahomes throw it all 529 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: the time, you don't have your offensive line. As Mike says, 530 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: I would just be cautious with some of the Chiefs. 531 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: You're probably gonna play You're gonna play with Shei Rice, 532 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: you're gonna play Travis Kelcey, and you're gonna play Mahomes. 533 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: I just I don't know what my expectations. They wouldn't 534 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: be too high for those guys, especially in the week fourteen. 535 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah lowered down in Week fourteen. The total is forty two, 536 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 5: and I think that's a that's pretty big ceiling for 537 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: YEAH th teams, right because of my trust in Houston's offense. No, 538 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: they scored twenty against a hurt Indianapolis team that lost 539 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 5: Sauce Garter and they needed a Nico Collins run to 540 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 5: find the ends. So hey, that all counts just the same. 541 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 5: But in terms of moving forward, remember CJ. Stroud and 542 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: that offense wasn't exactly clicking before he got hurt, So 543 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 5: that's suddenly not gonna get right against Bagnola in that defense. 544 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: But conversely, as you say, Dan, you know you're starting 545 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: those guys. But this is one of those weeks where 546 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: you're really hoping for a lot of other chaos across 547 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: the NFL. 548 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Plus Sunday night football could be a little chilly 549 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: tempts in the twenties in Kansas City for that. So yeah, 550 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: i'd say temper your expectations. All right, We're gonna take 551 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: a time out. We're not talking about expectations. We're doing 552 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: our report cards. How do we do in week thirteen? 553 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 4: Plus Mike is a look at some waiver wire pickups 554 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: in advance of Week fourteen. Again, it's winning time in fantasy, 555 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: and we've got the answers for you next year, and 556 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: I want your flex all right, it is report card time, 557 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: Mike Harmon. How did the rankings look in Week thirteen? 558 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 5: Some successes, I mean, Mahomes was first, so I'm gonna 559 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: give myself a gold star there. 560 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: Drake May gave us a great performance. The rest of 561 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks kind of kicked me in the teeth a. 562 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: Chad scored his big touchdown early. Henry like we got 563 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: to double digits. We got the early touchdown that got 564 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: us across the finish line. Chase Brown over one hundred 565 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: total yards. Fantastic bunch of injuries in the wide receiving core, 566 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: which is terrible. Another touchdown for DeVante Adams. He cannot 567 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: be stopped. We talked about George Pickens. He gave us 568 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: a solid game, not a top five, but solid game. 569 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 5: And then Rashie Rice was in our top five. So 570 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: that's a little bit of a victory lap there. And 571 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 5: I wrote down Ceed Lamb's name appropriate nothing Dan in 572 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: a sixth slot for you as you and Bursha appreciate 573 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: you trying to handle my doctor slash serial killer note 574 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: sheet that is just replete with all sorts of goodness here. 575 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissette was a top ten quarterback for us. Goff 576 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 5: also finished top ten, which was great missus. Trevon Henderson. 577 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 5: We saw a lot of Ramandre Stevenson. Saquon Barkley gave 578 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: us another dud his sixth game of the year under 579 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: ten fantasy points. Had a possible big gainer on a 580 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 5: swing pass. 581 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: Guess what he dropped it? 582 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 5: Bears were giving up nearly one hundred and sixty yards 583 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 5: a game on the ground the last month. Move between 584 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: the twenties, fumble it after that, but get your yardage, 585 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 5: manh Yeah, so that's a huge dud. 586 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert broke his hand. 587 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's boy. I'll tell you that. If it 588 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: wasn't for the Raiders, they they could have been in 589 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: real trouble. 590 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, play through it. 591 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 5: Though, apparently he's gonna get surgery, surgery as by the 592 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 5: time we said, yeah, we tape. But yeah, so he's 593 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: expected to go next Monday. With Philadelphia coming to Los Angeles. 594 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: He's gonna have a difficult time under center. Like you know, 595 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: they had a fourth and short in the first half, 596 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: like right after he returned to the game, and they 597 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 4: ran it out a shotgun. Yeah, you know, and with 598 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: Herbert at six', five you, know it's an, easy easy 599 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: sneak for, him but they didn't want To they didn't 600 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 4: want to risk anything with. It So i'm curious on 601 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: how that plays, out if he even plays at all 602 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: in that. 603 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: Contest, WELL i. 604 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 5: Think you just go back to all of those fourth 605 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 5: and shorts or whatever where he could run the ball 606 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 5: Because Philip rivers refused to do quarterback, sneaks go back 607 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 5: and pull. 608 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: All those, players, Right. 609 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: Ald, Days, yeah good, Up. 610 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 5: Philip all right from our cold Source Caleb, williams he 611 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 5: was twenty, fifth so we'll take a victory lap. There 612 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 5: Daniel jones at. Seventeenth, look as soon as we found 613 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: out he had a broken leg exacerbated seventeen or fewer 614 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: now in four straight games for, Him tracy left with an. 615 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: INJURY i can't take a victory. There With ruk. 616 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: O'dowdell, well we talked About Cuba hubbard earlier in the, 617 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: show so we got that And abuca hit. Again adunza 618 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 5: recovered the on side, kicks so but that doesn't give 619 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 5: me any fantasy. Points And Justin, JEFFERSON i believe he's 620 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: now in the darkest ink pen THAT i could fine 621 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: in terms of my gold. Sores he's like emeritus at this, 622 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 5: point he's got a doctorate in that. 623 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: COLUMN i may just continue to start him just out of. Spite, 624 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: yeah to be like you're gonna. Play it's almost like 625 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 4: just you, know making myself feel that pain because it 626 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 4: was THE i, mean at one point he had one 627 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: catch for negative four, yards, right they tried to get 628 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: him an easy catch and he lost four. Yards then 629 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: he got one for eight yards on like a third 630 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 4: and twenty one because there wasn't anybody even. 631 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Near AND i think they. 632 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: Just, HONESTLY i think that they felt, bad like just 633 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: throw them, one get them on the plus side of the. 634 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: Yard itche. Is it is so. Bad now you have 635 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: the commanders coming into. 636 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: TOWN jj McCarthy should be back and you're, thinking, hey 637 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: you know things are looking, up but they're probably. 638 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: Not but they can't get any lower than they were 639 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: in week. 640 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: Thirteen do you remember the NOTE i had next to 641 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 5: him and, said quote maybe Better, NO JJ i E 642 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 5: brosban knows he's not in the league for. Long he's 643 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 5: just gonna wake it around and give him a. Chance 644 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: it was. WORSE i, mean that's staff that that like 645 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: everybody's seated at this. Point but maybe a couple of 646 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 5: you listening have not. That they could have spiked the 647 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 5: ball every down the last two weeks and finished with 648 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 5: a higher quarterback rating for McCarthy And brosebur the last 649 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 5: Two vikings. 650 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: Games that skyhook of a pass on the fourth down 651 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: was just it was like a line drive right To 652 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: Ernest jones as, well which. 653 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 5: Was worse that Or young Way KU's field goal attempt 654 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 5: On Monday. 655 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: Night i've done that with a pitching wedge many a, 656 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: times or even a sand, wedge taking out the fifty 657 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: six or the, sixty and it just gets stuck and 658 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: there's nothing you can. 659 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 7: Do it's, different, Though, hey you do you start around 660 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 7: that reverb when the is six inches into the, earth you? 661 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: KNOW i, Mean i'm telling you it stings like you're getting. 662 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: JAMMED i feel like you're, electrocuted like you're in caddy. 663 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 4: Shit oh, man, WOW i still think, GOSH i Think 664 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: i'd still rather Be Young wayku than the brosemre. 665 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: THROW i don't, know Maybe i'm. 666 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 3: Wrong, no it was just. 667 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: Interesting i'm, like because thinking about the, game it's, like all, 668 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 5: right this is a Guy New, Hampshire minnesota knows he's 669 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 5: not like he's already talking about like he's in grad school, 670 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 5: now like for. Kideesiology so like here's a shot winging. 671 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: Around. 672 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: Fitting, Yeah vikings fans wanted to be put asleep during that. 673 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: Game that is very, fitting and he did his best 674 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 4: to allow that to. 675 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Happen. BELIEVABLE. J. J McCarthy back in week. Fourteen all, right. 676 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 5: Last one quick, one, yeah Often, ninja just real. Quick 677 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 5: the victory laps For Trevor lawrence and R. J. Harvey 678 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: Sam darnold screwed. Me and DO i get Credit yoshavas 679 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: with a perfect night of one catch for twenty nine 680 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 5: yards in a. 681 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: Touchdown, well it depends if you're talking About Isaiah, joshavas 682 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: WHICH i accidentally called him in the podcast at one 683 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: point and instead Of Andre. Yoshavas and but, yeah so 684 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 4: we'll take it With andre because he's the one that actually. 685 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: Played, well there we. GO i think it WAS i 686 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: just Called. 687 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm a first name, Anymore Yoshi. Mike he's a member 688 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: of The mario. 689 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Universe, RIGHT i had to correct. MYSELF i don't know 690 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: where that came. 691 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: On, Ian it's there's the long running joke that we 692 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: have with former Producer Ryan, berschinger HOW i Called Greg 693 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: Dorts greg Borch AND i KNOW i brought this up 694 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 4: on the podcast, again BUT i just know. It Whenever 695 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: dorts catches a, PASS i always remember saying. That and 696 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: so now WHEN i See, yoshavas And yoshavas has been 697 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 4: around for a, WHILE i just THINK i saw the 698 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 4: eye and for whatever, reason BUT i called Him isaiah 699 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 4: instead Of. ANDRE i know there was an eye in vowels. 700 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: INVOLVED i just didn't get in the right. 701 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: Place i'm gonna give myself the brain fire freezes THAT i. 702 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: Have it's far worse than. 703 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 5: That. DAN i go to talk About Joe, burrow AND 704 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: i always it almost crosses my lips to call Him Carson, palmer, really, 705 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 5: Like i'm still obsessed with the now a high school 706 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 5: coaching champion here in Southern. California but, yeah that was 707 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 5: the last time that we had A bengals quarterback that 708 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 5: you really liked that was really. 709 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 3: Good SO i equate the. 710 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: TWO i don't know, why but every once in a, 711 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 5: WHILE i was, like, Yeah, Carl, no It's Joe. 712 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: Burrow that's. 713 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 4: Great, yeah, man it's nothing like The Kevin garnett And Kevin, 714 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 4: durant The Russell wilson and The Russell westbrooks that will 715 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 4: make him crossing that one's score, one but it. Happens So, 716 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 4: Ian what do you got for streaming? Defense is how 717 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 4: they work? Out In week thirteen is. 718 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 6: A pretty good. Week we'll start with the worst as 719 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 6: always and then work our way. Up the worst defense 720 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 6: was the forty nine ers THAT i gave. You they's 721 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 6: still got you twelve fantasy. Points only allowed eight points 722 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 6: to The browns And Shaduur sanders recovered two fumbles And 723 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 6: sackshaudor three, times so pretty successful day. There, next The Miami, 724 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 6: dolphins they got you thirteen fantasy. Points they allowed seventeen 725 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 6: points to The saints And Tyler, schuck but they did 726 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 6: pick him, off they recovered a fumble and they sacked 727 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 6: him four, times so pretty good week there as. Well 728 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 6: and then lastly The Jacksonville, jaguars they got you fourteen fantasy. 729 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 6: Points they allowed three points total to Cam ward and The. 730 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 6: Titans they recovered two fumbles and sacked him three. Times so, 731 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 6: yeah got, twelve, thirteen and fourteen points respectively out of 732 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 6: our streaming defense this. Week good. 733 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 4: WEEK i took Some Ian roddy advice and picked up 734 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: The dolphins and played the smart of you and winning 735 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 4: by just six tenths seven tenths of a. Point AS 736 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: i did in my league last, week lost by six. 737 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 4: Tenths this, WEEK i won by seven, tenths so the 738 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: play By Ian roddy led me to. Victory, VIGEY i 739 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 4: completely whiffed on points Of palooza for some, REASON i 740 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 4: Said Saints. DOLPHINS i don't know IF i was drunk 741 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 4: when we, recorded but that did not. Happen if points 742 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 4: Of polouza meant returning a two point conversion for a, 743 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 4: score that would have been. Great and in, fact it's 744 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 4: too bad my league didn't give any points for the 745 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: interception on the. Pat i'm not sure how many leagues 746 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 4: actually have, that but for a DEFENSE i at least 747 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 4: should have. GOTTEN i felt a point for. THAT i 748 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 4: KNEW i wasn't going, to but maybe now for leagues 749 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 4: when they look into stuff and look into settings so 750 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: that that could be an. Opportunity And i'll tell you, 751 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 4: what it made a difference On sunday because even if 752 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 4: he bats it down or knocks it, Down saints recover 753 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 4: that outside. Kicked they were in field goal, range being 754 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 4: down two in that, scenario that could have kicked a 755 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: field goal instead of trying to go for it on 756 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 4: fourth and. Short but the two points end up making 757 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 4: the difference and making The, saints you, know. 758 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: Have to score a touchdown at the. End but that was. 759 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 5: Crazy, yeah that's one of those where we would have 760 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 5: had to back in My yahoo, days, right a big, 761 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 5: explanation and you would have gotten the astisk points depending 762 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 5: on how the league was set. 763 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: UP i don't think it should count as an. 764 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 4: INTERCEPTION i think that there's a way like where you 765 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 4: could make it for the point or the two points 766 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: get you. Convision, yeah, yeah, YEAH i think that you, 767 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 4: know something like that would be fair in. That BUT 768 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 4: i didn't feel like that was robbed by any, means 769 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 4: but it just would have Made Ian's dolphins pick a 770 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 4: little bit. Better survivor wise told you to take The 771 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 4: chargers if you still had, them as they were able 772 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: to get past The raiders even With Justin herbert's broken. 773 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 4: HAND i did Recommend dolphins And falcons as possibilities in 774 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 4: the coin. Flip falcons lost To Ian's, jets so that 775 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 4: was a tough, one and we just mentioned that The 776 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 4: dolphins survived again it's The. Saints dolphins were the second 777 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 4: most popular in the survivor pool That i'm in this, 778 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 4: week behind The, chargers so there were some late late 779 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 4: worries on that. 780 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: One no one took The. 781 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 4: Falcons in the pools That i'm, in only losses with 782 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: The rams And eagles this, week so that was interesting 783 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 4: to see but, yeah two out of three on The, 784 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 4: survivor but, hey we'll take it after the points Of 785 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 4: paluza was so. Bad all, right let's look ahead To 786 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 4: week Fourteen Mike waiver wire pickups as it's winning. 787 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 3: Time, yeah we have those four teams on. 788 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 5: By remember that we Got New, England New York, Giants San, 789 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 5: francisco And, carolina so we missed some heavyweights for this, 790 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 5: Week so let's go find a little bit of love 791 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 5: on the. Wire Jacoby. Brissette people still running away from. 792 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 5: Him he's got an. Opportunity it's a tough game against The, 793 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 5: rams but we've watched This arizona. Squad he's consistently been 794 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: a top ten, guy but for whatever, reason folks still shying. 795 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 5: Away fantasy, wise still available in about forty percent of. 796 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 5: Leagues you're looking At manungai against The, packers like The 797 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 5: bears number two rushing offense in the game Behind buffalo right, 798 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 5: now and you have the fact that we could run 799 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 5: On Walter payton And Matt sue graphic really brought tears 800 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 5: to my eyes this week as they as we had 801 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 5: the two guys over one hundred. 802 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 3: Yards he In swift just absolutely. Insane there Adn. Mitchell let's. 803 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 5: Go we're talking about target counts over the last two. 804 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 5: Weeks you're lucky ten catches over nineteen, targets had six 805 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 5: his first, week so you've got opportunity. There rodriguez of 806 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 5: The commanders three double digit touch games in his last. 807 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 5: Four he's got three touchdowns sov a little about seventy 808 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 5: five percent of, League so an opportunity for you. There 809 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 5: you Got Jayden higgins four plus catches five of his last. 810 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 5: Six now you're not getting the, yardage so this is 811 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 5: where you've got to just recognize your ceiling. There he's 812 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 5: only got one game with more than sixty, yards but 813 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 5: he's also scored three. Touchdown but again we're talking. Opportunities 814 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 5: targets five, six seven per game gives you at least 815 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 5: a little bit of a base play. Defense go pick 816 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 5: Up blake korm because you're gonna see a bunch of 817 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 5: him down the. Stretch vyle there for The, saints we 818 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 5: talked about him a little. Bit he's got fifteen targets 819 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 5: the last two. Weeks so For Tyler, shuck you, know 820 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 5: we always try to figure out who that second team 821 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 5: guy that's going to get elevated when a new quarterback 822 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 5: comes in because of some, chemistry and we've got a 823 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 5: little bit of an opportunity there that certainly rises. 824 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 3: Up we've talked about The packers a. 825 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 5: Bunch i'm reticent to just, say, hey you, know go 826 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 5: outside of the defensive side of, it, right and this 827 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 5: becomes the you don't want it to be the week 828 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 5: That watson Or reid is in a lineup against. You 829 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 5: so if you have a deep enough bench that you're 830 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 5: doing a little bit of a, churn maybe you play 831 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 5: a little bit of defense. Here because Against, chicago they'll 832 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 5: move the, ball they may give it away. 833 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 3: Or have it stripped or all sorts of. 834 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 5: CHAOS i mean that that tush push thing might have. 835 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 5: BEEN i want to get a snapshot of that and 836 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 5: hang it on the. Loover But Al harris's defense getting 837 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 5: after it on the back end there in the. Secondary 838 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 5: so you'll move the, ball but you, know finishing it. 839 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 5: Off opportunity there Chewba. Hubbard we talked about taking some 840 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 5: of that. Workload are you reticent to go full? In, 841 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 5: no but he should be rostered and right now he's 842 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 5: available in quite a chunk of. Leagues Darren, waller he's 843 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 5: back and as much as you're, like all, right is 844 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 5: he is he gonna finish against The jets don't play. 845 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 3: Defense against tight? 846 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: Ends sure The. 847 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 5: Dolphins don't, either so that'll be an interesting game to 848 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 5: watch in that. Respect and then you Got Breton strange 849 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 5: of Your jaguars against The, colts and that secondary should 850 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 5: have some opportunity as, well trying to find some value 851 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 5: at the tight end. 852 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: Position, yeah that tight End. Wasteland, well that's it, Right, 853 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: YEAH i. 854 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: Got a guess work week to. 855 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 5: WEEK i, mean because you look at this week for 856 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 5: yardage of, receivers overall of the top, twenty you had 857 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 5: eight tight, ends including such luminaries As Kyle. 858 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 3: Pitts, yeah how about. 859 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: That good to see You Kyle pitts. 860 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: In week thirteen when nobody's Trusting. 861 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: You're, right that's to your. 862 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 6: Point The jets don't guard tight, ends and that's who 863 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 6: he was. Playing that's. 864 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: It, oh, well that's gonna do it for. 865 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 4: Us in Our week thirteen, recap we'll be back with 866 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 4: our midwek episode And week. 867 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: Fourteen with some dandy matchups on the. 868 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 4: Card should be exciting to see the lineups that we, 869 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 4: have especially as you're about to edge the playoffs and 870 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 4: wrapping up your regular, season and so much more so 871 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 4: For Ian roddy And Mike. Carmen I'm Dan. Bayer we 872 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 4: can't wait to talk to you next. Time It's, december 873 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 4: it's winning. 874 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: Time right. HERE i want your flex