WEBVTT - Bronson Pinchot Meets World 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.400 Well, this is a bit of a weird update considering, uh, 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.440 you know, we're multiple months into the year of twenty 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:31.720 twenty five, but we get a lot of emails. We 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.159 get a lot of emails about whether or not we 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.600 have exchanged our Christmas gifts. You guys are so cute 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.840 with how much you pay attention and care about these 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.800 little moments in our lives. 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.680 What's gonna happen Like, it's just gonna the pressure is 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.800 gonna keep building, Like ten years from now, we're gonna 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:52.160 have to be like buying each other cars. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.880 We don't have to keep getting each other bigger and 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:56.440 better gifts. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:01.120 They just want to know what, Yeah, guess yeah, it 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:01.760 sixs a lot. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.640 I mean, whatever when I buy you a Lamborghini next year, 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.000 because I know you so well, I know. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.360 How much you want Lamborghin exactly? Can you also go 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.520 camping in it? Can you press a button and then becomes 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:13.039 another thing? 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:13.400 You can? 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.720 I do have a poster of a Lamborghini as a kid, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.880 of course, a Lamborghini cuontash. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.200 Yeah, one of the worst driving automobiles in history. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.759 By the way, Yes, they're not a sponsor. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:29.399 They know they were. Lamb I don't want a Lamborghini. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.400 I don't want a Lamborghini. I don't I don't want 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:32.000 a laborghady. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.760 Okay, So we did get together. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.520 We had a wonderful little lunch and we exchanged our 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.880 Christmas gifts. So, writer, why don't you go first and 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.720 tell everybody what you got? 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:49.080 I got superhero underwear, Yes you did, Spider Man, it's 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:50.000 still in its packaging. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.920 And how did you fly without them? 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.600 Oh my god? And then you framed our baseball cards, which. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:05.000 Is Allen and ginter tops cards. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:05.880 Each one of those. I got one myself too. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.160 Yes, that was very sweet. Will what did you get? 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:09.720 Well? 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.919 First of all, Danielle, you also got superhero. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:12.160 Underwear from me? 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.480 I most certainly did. I got superhero boxers. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.079 Shopping for it was really creepy, I. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.400 Know, because at first you didn't go right to boxers, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:25.120 no superhero, but it was. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:26.800 Like all these super I was like, wow, oh my god, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.120 I can't look Batman the same if it's a Batman. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.919 You thought jewelry was too personal to buy me, you know, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.919 tutic imagine buying me a thong. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.239 So I'm talking to Sue, I'm like, I don't feel 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:37.840 comfortable with this. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.000 She's like make them boxers. I'm like, okay, that makes 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.400 more sense. You guys both got the same pair, And yeah. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.120 We got the same Christmas gift this year, which is 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:44.560 very cool. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:45.440 We both got. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.799 Superhero boxer shorts and are framed. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.000 Down I got, which I'm actually it's funny. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:56.880 I'm starting to read about Rider got me an electronic calendar, 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.959 which is really cool. But the problem with it is 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.560 the screen is small, so as I'm writing on it 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.560 with sharpie, there's not a whole lot of room to 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.680 put my day stuff. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.960 The story behind this is that Will can never schedule anything, yes, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.600 without his physical what he calls the big calendar that 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.679 is in their house. And so if we're texting or 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.160 figuring out and we have to schedule a lot of things, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.960 guys like it's a constant can do this together. That's 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.760 why it takes it April, and it's always like I'll 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.399 have to tell you when I get home tomorrow. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.600 And look at the big calendar, like I can't really. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.720 Also doesn't take a picture of it on his phone. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:33.800 I've started doing that. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.760 He can't reference it, he can't tell you what he's doing. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.080 And he started doing that. I started doing that, so. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.440 My idea was, let's get Will a big calendar that's electronic, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.080 and then maybe there will. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.520 Be a way to learn how to use it. It 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.560 reminds me of my our frame, which I love so 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.960 much for a calendar. And then from uh, Danielle, I 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:59.440 got my Batman and it actually works. Huh like it 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.880 really Jeck sabacity and it's so cool. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.800 I actually pictured it in your theater room. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.240 Yes, I don't know if you can see it. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.680 Now, Will, when you were Batman, was it a slightly 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.160 different symbol? It was, right, Yes, it was red. It 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:19.080 was also a different what it's this symbol? Oh right, right, yeah, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.320 that's the Batman beyond symbol. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.760 This is original. This is a this is eighty nine. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.360 Old school Yeah yeah, cool. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.839 So I love that. So yeah, I've got it right. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:27.480 Here and that stuff. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:27.760 It was. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.680 It was very I don't have my gift. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.880 If I was recording at home, I could show off 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.280 the gift that Danielle got me. Daniel and Jensen got 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.680 me this amazing little work of art. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.120 I don't do you do you have? Do you know 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.320 the artist's name, yes, the of your head. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.880 So the artist's name is Scott Hildebrandt and he makes 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:50.600 incredible works of art inside vintage clocks. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.039 Yes, so it's like a vintage alarm clock. I wish 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.920 I was in my office show. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.080 But it's a vintage alarm clock. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.279 And it has this little camper scene of like a 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.320 car and a trailer and a little it has a 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.640 flickering light so you turn it on. It's the coziest, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.680 coolest little thing. And it's in my office now, it'll 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:06.600 be it'll be behind. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:07.600 Me when I'm recording there normally. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:08.720 Yeah, I love it. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:09.240 Very cool. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.200 Wait, what did you get from? 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:10.400 Writer? 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:16.039 I got an incredible pullover that has the Grateful Dead 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.360 dancing bear on it. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:19.640 What's the designer? 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:20.160 Writer? 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.760 It's like a design it's a clothing brands clothing. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.680 Oh, Huckberry, like anybody if you if you go on Huckberry, 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.440 it's like the rider's strong clothing, like you just look. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:30.080 Yeah. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.160 So they were doing they did a special like Grateful 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.520 Dead limited edition sweat sweater and this was like in 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.440 September or whatever, and I was like, oh, gotta get 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.240 it for Danielle because she's a dead head now and 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.760 I just think it's steral. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.880 But yeah, it's it's a little Bear's. It's a nice sweater. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.200 It's such a nice pullover. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.760 It's a good quality, it's nice and thick, it's beautiful. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.600 I love it so happy and and we already mentioned well, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.560 got me the Allen and Ginter cards. I'm gonna put 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.760 my Allan in Ginter cards. I think right under over 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.279 here is where I have the Thomas Guide that I 0:05:59.360 --> 0:05:59.720 frame for. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.200 And I know that so writer obviously doesn't care. But 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.760 have you worn your superhero boxers to bed yet? 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:12.680 I haven't. But I don't sleep in boxer shorts. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.159 But do you either? 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.080 If it's really cold, I have sweatpants on, or I 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:17.960 just like in a T shirt. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.080 Okay, you porky piket in bed? 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.920 Really have this conversation on this podcast. I feel like 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.760 we've talked about but because we. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.279 Talked about sleeping naked, so naked, you cover the bottom. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.640 You keep the top is one thing, but cover the bottom. Okay, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.040 I get it. You are You're Donald ducking it in bed? 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:35.599 I get it. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.000 Welcome to Bond Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:54.839 or Strong, and I'm Wilford. We are very excited for 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.080 today's guest. During our journey through Boy Meets World. In 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.279 addition to trying to create a definitive audio time capsule 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.799 for our own show, we have taken on some quick 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.280 side missions, hoping to learn a little bit more about 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.840 our Friday night neighbors and the details surrounding a programming 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.600 block that would change TV forever. Whether it was Jim Janisek, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.240 the brainchild behind the TGIF campaign, or Nick Backay, a 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.800 man who went from a writer to the voice of 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.160 a cat who could somehow make us time travel, we 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.480 are interested in all the info, and today we're not 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.560 only talking to someone who was the star of TGIF's 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.560 first ever anchor, but his legendary run on TV and 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.960 unforgettable appearances in classic movies makes him a first Ballot 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.120 Comedy Hall of Famer. You know him best as Balki 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.400 Bartolomeus from the Island of Mepos, a lovable goofball who 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.080 has immigrated to Chicago to live with his distant and 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.000 unsuspecting cousin Larry. The show ran for eight seasons and 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.600 it was a massive hit, with Balki becoming the face 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.120 of the channel, and the ratings were so high they 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.480 would lead the way on the mission to turn Friday 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.480 Nights from a TV graveyard to appointment family viewing. And 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.800 even before Balky touchdown in the US, our guest was 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.560 already a bona fide movie star. His first movie ever 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.960 was alongside Tom Cruise in the seminole eighties movie Risky Business. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.240 Awesome movie, awesome role. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.680 I'm gonna be saying that all day to day, just 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.440 so you know everything you're about to mention. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.080 And it didn't stop there. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:30.520 Beverly Hills, Cop one, two and three, Ah, After Hours, Ah, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:35.240 the First Wives Club, I can't And True Romance. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.840 Oh my god, he's got Oh he was so guy. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.800 You've forgot about True He was so good in True Romance. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.120 Oh my Truman, Okay, I have to be honest. True 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.640 Romance is the only one of those I've seen. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.680 You've never seen any of the No, I know, there's 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.480 like Cepy Holes and then Risky Business. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:51.280 I've never seen either. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:56.640 After you've never seen the hours of Scorsese film, Yes, yes, okay, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:57.280 I have. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.680 After I know. I just it's actually on my list, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.160 Like I'm dude, it is. It is absolutely brilliant. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:03.640 Everything. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.680 You just listen and actually you forgot He's done four 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:12.080 of the uh, Beverly because they just did the new 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.440 one and the whole cast got together, got back together. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:19.280 He was one banger after and next. And he's never 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.319 the lead. He always is a character actor who comes 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.559 in and then steals whatever the hell he's in. It's 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:26.880 so good, Oh my god. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:31.920 His performance in the first Beverly Hills cop movie, Eddie Murphy. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.280 You see him on camera just trying to keep it 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.839 together as he's speaking to him. He's like, Eddie Murphy 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.880 is trying not to break. It's so funny, funny, it 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:40.480 is amazing. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.120 There is no TGIF without cousin Balki, and so we 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.240 are honored to welcome a legend to the podcast this 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.000 week break out the Dance of Joy. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:56.880 It's Bronze and Pinchot Bronson. We are so honored that 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.319 you agreed to spend some time. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.600 With us today. So first off, thank you you so much. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.960 It is really great to see you. Before we get 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:08.560 into the branches of our big TGIF family tree, we 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.880 wanted to delve a little into your. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.679 Actor origin story. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.480 I know you were born in New York, but you 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.280 moved to California at a very young age. But neither 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.360 of your parents were in the business. So how did 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.160 acting find its way into your life? 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:29.120 It found its way in. I had a friend I 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.199 was I was all ready to be an illustrator and 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:38.880 an artist, you know, painter, illustrator. And I had a 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:45.000 friend who I was an actor at the UCSB Santa Barbara, Yeah, 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.080 And I went to see him in a play, a 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.760 really interesting, you know, dark Russian play, and I came 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:59.400 home and felt a strange emotion which was something like 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:06.520 I guess initially it it might have been something like jealousy, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.320 but it was so much deeper than that. It ended 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.040 up being that's what I'm supposed to be doing. And 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.000 now what do I do because I don't have any 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:18.880 acting training, but that's obviously what I need to be doing. So, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.480 uh we were very poor, we were poort so but 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.720 but I had gotten a scholarship to go to Yale, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.560 which I mean, I mean. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.520 Just just just a scholarship. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.800 School. I got this scholarship. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.199 Part of the system. 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:44.760 So I went and I started to to do you know, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.800 drawing and painting and studying ancient philosophy. But but they 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.440 had uh, you know, student plays you could audition for, 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.160 and I auditioned for, uh a Shakespeare play and I 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.040 got it. I didn't know what I was doing, but 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.360 the head of the acting department came to see it 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:10.079 and said, you don't know what you're doing, but there's 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.480 something there because when you walk on stage, it's like 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.800 a breath of fresh air. Would you like to actually 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.720 learn how to do this? And I said I would. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:24.079 So he created a little tutorial for only just five 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.640 of us, and he started to teach us how to act. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:32.000 I got into it. So at a certain point, the 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:36.800 fine arts department makes you do a portfolio review where 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.480 you put up all your stuff and they tell you 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.920 what they think. And I remember very distinctly with what 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.000 they said. The guy leaned back and he looked at 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.959 everything and he said, well, it's very exuberant, although heavy handed, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.160 and I guess we'll take you. But this acting crap 0:12:53.280 --> 0:13:00.400 has to stop. And I thought, what is it? You know, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.679 life is just so well scripted. I was like, you're 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.080 I went an arrogant butt head, What are you talking to? 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.680 What the hell are you talking about? I'll do plays 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.400 if I want to. What difference does it make? But 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.440 I mean I didn't. It was like done. I don't 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.840 want you, you know, you're arrogant and uh, anyway, you know, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.160 drawing and painting is the thing you do by yourself 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.480 in an attic, and I'm a very social creature, and 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.440 he made the decision for me. It was it was 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.520 a terrible thing to say to a nineteen year old, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.520 but a wonderful thing because I literally just was like, 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:40.520 screw you, I don't have anything. No. So fast forward 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.520 about a year and I did a I did a 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.520 play by Ian Escoll called The Lesson, which is just 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.520 a crackpot professor teaching this one student and kind of 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.440 coming on to her. And it's it's a very weird play. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.280 But anyway, the director had come in every single day 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.280 and just hump. He would just had me get on 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.760 top of this actress and it was like an acting exercise. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.560 And I finally said, wait, I'm sorry, did you say 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.000 hump or hum? 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:13.000 Hum? 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.760 Oh? I heard hump, and then I wasn't sure how 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.120 you were Okay. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:24.680 You did have a sexual undertone undertone. So I finally said, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.000 the play is opening in like ten days and we're 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.400 doing theater games and I feel really odd about that. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:35.040 I mean, there's no play happening, So I will I 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.400 will propose to you that you go away and I'll 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.920 just figure it out myself. And if you don't go away, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.560 I'll go away because you've really had us here for 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:45.160 three weeks. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.720 You've done nothing well also. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.040 You know, doing voyeuristic weird stuff. So he went away. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.200 I figured out to play with this with this wonderful 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.640 young actress and another young actress who was in it, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.920 and somebody came to see it who was in He 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.640 was studying music composition. I wish I remembered his name, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.440 because he's responsible for my whole career. He came to 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.640 see it, and then he went back to his class, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.800 which was being taught by a composer named Maury Yeston. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.960 And Maury Yeston was writing incidental music for a play 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:22.680 off Broadway called Cloud Nine, and he mentioned, in passing 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.080 to his students, we're seeing people professional actors in New York, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.320 and they're supposed to be funny. They're not. Isn't it 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.720 a pity? Because I'm sure there's somebody right, you know, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:35.080 within spinning distance who is funny. And his students said, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.920 I just saw somebody in a play called The Lesson, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:42.560 and he's funny. So that the Yeston said well, I'll 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.600 get him an audition, and he got me an audition 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.480 site unseen. I went down. They kept me waiting five 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.600 hours because I was the charity case. But at the end, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.880 at the end of five hours, I did a really, really, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.600 really a good audition and the casting director kim all 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.120 the way out of the back of the theater because 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.400 she's the one that had kept me waiting five hours, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.440 and she said, where did you come from? I said, well, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.640 I've been in the lobby for five hours, and she said, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:14.440 well you've you're I didn't. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.560 see what's up here. So she she took me under 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.120 her wing. Her her name was Mary Cahoun. She took 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.360 me under her wing, and she she she brought me 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:28.080 to casting sessions. And then I got a play in 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.200 New York and the producers of Risky Business came see 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.960 the play and cast me in Risky Business, and then 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.080 I was off. And so it it it's that's that's 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.960 my acting origin story, and that's the that's how it happened, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.600 you know. It's I saw Isabella Rossellini on a thing 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.760 the other day saying that she asked her mother Ingrid Bergman, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.960 how do you get into acting? And her mother said, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.440 you don't. If it's a calling, it comes for you, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:17:02.120 which is true because you can knock and knock and 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.879 knock and knock and knock on the door, but you know, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:09.000 it's like the mailbox opens and somebody reaches out and 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.600 pulls you in. And so that's how that's how it happened. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.639 Wow, And so Risky Business was your first movie. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.600 It was my first movie. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.720 And is that the movie that you were auditioning for 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.320 at the time where she came out and got you 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.080 or was that a different project? And then she. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.080 Product at the plate the thing where I said, in 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.760 the lobby for five hours, which is funny because it 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.680 then happened again the second most important juncture of my career. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.760 They had a movie called Beverly Hills Cop and there 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.320 was a character in it who was named Jack. He 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.320 was American, and there was just a brief scene where 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.000 Axel comes into a store, a clothing store called can 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.280 you Imagine with a question mark? And there's a character 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.040 named Jack who's described as an extremely this is why 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.199 I said I wouldn't go in it is described as 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.320 incredibly good looking and gay, and he had just a 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.359 few lines, and the whole purpose of the scene was 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.679 for it was nineteen eighty four, for Axel to just 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.000 be like, you know, kind of beat on him because 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.159 he was gay and leave. And they came to me 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.040 and said, we can't make this funny. And I looked 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.920 at it and said, I wonder why there's there's it's 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.920 a it's a one beat. You know, it's one beat. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.359 It's it's the main character being kind of like a 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.399 jerk too. So they said, well, can you can you 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.760 come up with something? So I said, I don't know, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.440 there's nothing really there. But I took a long, long 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.200 walk with the script and I kept doing it and 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.800 doing it. I was like, what, And then it came 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.639 to me that it might work if I did the 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.439 voice of this Israelian makeup lady that I'd worked with, 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.800 and also her body language because she had no bones. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:19:00.280 So I went and the director, Marty Breast, he really 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:04.440 loves actors. He loves them so much that I sat 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.720 there for three hours. Three hours is a long time, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.080 so long, and I sat there for three hours and 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.919 I thought, I should you know, I've I've been in 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.199 risky business, and I've been in the Flamingo kid, and 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.159 why do I have to wait three hours? So I 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.479 called my agent and she said, yeah, you're absolutely right, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.159 you can leave if you want. But I stayed. But 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.040 over the course of three hours, I cycled through. I 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:34.600 cycled through these these emotions about six times, which were 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:40.240 how dare they too? Well? I mean, really, there's a 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.200 there's a nice couch. I mean, you could go get 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:47.320 a you could go get a nature valley. How bad 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.400 is it to how dare they? I mean, what where? 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:52.840 What do you got to do? What are you going 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.159 to do? You know? And so by the time I 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.840 finally went in to see the director, I had cycled 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:02.240 through there so many times that I was relaxed enough, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.400 even though I was twenty four, to say, so, here's 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.080 what I got, and this is all I've got. So 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.840 if you don't like it, I'll totally understand. And if 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.080 you do like it, then we can talk. I mean. 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.879 And I didn't say it arrogant. I just was like, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.560 this is it. I mean, I didn't say I'd been 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.680 here three hours, but that's what I'd cycled through. And 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.720 I did it, and he said he he went like this, Marty, 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:27.960 so shit done? He went I love that, And what 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.200 would you call him? And I said, I just came 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:34.720 up with this name, Sash and so so uh that. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.520 So you know, those were the most important eight hours 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.280 of my life because you have to cycle I think 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.920 in absolutely everything, everything, whether you're meeting a person who's 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.879 going to change your life, or auditioning or even sitting 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.199 in traffic, you have to cycle through. I shouldn't have 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:55.679 to wait. This has been too who are you? Just 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:00.520