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Speaker 2: What's gonna happen Like, it's just gonna the pressure is

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Speaker 4: Talked about sleeping naked, so naked, you cover the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bond Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right

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Speaker 1: or Strong, and I'm Wilford. We are very excited for

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Speaker 1: today's guest. During our journey through Boy Meets World. In

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Speaker 1: side missions, hoping to learn a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: our Friday night neighbors and the details surrounding a programming

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Speaker 1: Comedy Hall of Famer. You know him best as Balki

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Speaker 1: Bartolomeus from the Island of Mepos, a lovable goofball who

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Speaker 4: Awesome movie, awesome role.

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Speaker 5: You've forgot about True He was so good in True Romance.

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Speaker 1: There is no TGIF without cousin Balki, and so we

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Speaker 3: It's Bronze and Pinchot Bronson. We are so honored that

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Speaker 1: With us today. So first off, thank you you so much.

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Speaker 7: Here's the math I love the most because it makes

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Speaker 7: eat it till I couldn't stand it anymore, and then

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00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 7: do it again, and the apple was starting to go brown.

439
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 7: The movie came out and I a friend said, you've

440
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 7: got to go read what they wrote about you in

441
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 7: Newsweek magazine. I said, well, why would they write about me?

442
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 7: He said, go read it. So it was a review

443
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 7: of Beverly Hills cop and I walked to the supermarket

444
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 7: to read it, and then on my way home, a

445
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 7: carful of teenagers drove off of a Point Statia Avenue

446
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 7: and onto the sidewalk and came right up to like

447
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 7: three feet in front of me and jumped out and

448
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 7: started hugging me. And that's when they happened.

449
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: Your whole life changed. So how drastically does your life change? Then,

450
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: what's the first thing that you do when all of

451
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know your reviews are out, you're a star.

452
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: What's the first thing you do to turn your situation around?

453
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 7: The first thing I did was I ran away. I

454
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 7: got because it was you know, we have not caught

455
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 7: up at all with the way our brains are wired

456
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 7: is still from two hundred thousand years ago. So I

457
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 7: got a residual check for risky business, and I ran away.

458
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 7: I went to Greece and I just would turn the

459
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 7: lights out at night and I would take out a

460
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 7: big map of grease and I would put my finger

461
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 7: on it. Whenever my finger landed, I would I would

462
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 7: go there wow. And I remember once there was a

463
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 7: guy yep my age, so that was twenty five. He

464
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 7: was coming down a very steep hill with the sheep,

465
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 7: and he was a sheepherder, and he had a book

466
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 7: under his arm, and so I thought there's a fair

467
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 7: chance he might speak speak English. The people Tom Miller

468
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 7: and Bob Boyatt and Dale mccraven had come to me

469
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 7: with this idea that I didn't think sounded very good

470
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 7: for this TV show about an innocent sheepherder. And I

471
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 7: didn't think that I had any business playing innocence. I

472
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 7: thought I was rather sophisticated and urbane. So I said,

473
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 7: I said, I don't know about that. But anyway, I

474
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 7: ran out of money and I had just met this

475
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 7: sheepherder whose dog was named Dog and uh, so I

476
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 7: went to a phone booth in Athens and called them

477
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 7: and said, do you still want to do that show?

478
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 7: I didn't add because I'm out of money.

479
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Right and I just met Ader whose dog is named Dog,

480
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: and they said, yes, we do still want to do

481
00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: the show.

482
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 7: I said, okay, like.

483
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: Soon, how soon can we get it going?

484
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 6: Can you check so I can get home.

485
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 7: I was completely out of money, so I went back

486
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 7: and uh, and we we shot it, and then uh,

487
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 7: the network wanted to replace the guy playing cousin. Uh

488
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 7: Louis was was his name, because he was played by

489
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 7: Louis Anderson. They wanted to replace Louie, so they did

490
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 7: auditions and incomes marklyn Baker and we realized instantly, and

491
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 7: then it's it's the same way today. We can read

492
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 7: each other's minds. And I'm not even kidding. If he

493
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 7: was sitting right here, he would if you asked us

494
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 7: a question, he would know what I was going to answer,

495
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 7: and he'd start laughing, and then I'd start laughing at

496
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 7: the fact that that he knew. And we the you know,

497
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 7: no speaking would happen that when we when we do

498
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 7: Q and A with audiences, we just we just rock

499
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 7: back and forth, laughing, and then he has to hold

500
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 7: my mouth and explain to them all the all the

501
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 7: things that they've missed because someone would just say something like,

502
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 7: are you friends in real life? And then I started

503
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 7: laughing because of course we're must closer than friends, but

504
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 7: I want to say something like like, it's ridiculous, and

505
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 7: then he and so we just laughed. So the whole

506
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 7: whatever when we were interviewed, we laughed for ninety percent

507
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 7: of it, and he explains for nine percent of it,

508
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 7: and I have one or two things to say, and

509
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 7: it's so he walked in the room and and that happened,

510
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 7: and and then and then we were we were off.

511
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 7: But I still what I had missed because then I

512
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 7: was really famous. I had not yet had a chance

513
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 7: to at all find out how to be a functioning

514
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 7: human being. And I also didn't really know what my

515
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 7: process was as an actor. I had no idea, so

516
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 7: I didn't know how to be a person or an actor.

517
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 7: And then they were in the top ten, and and

518
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 7: they were, you know, to me, it's almost like not

519
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 7: my life, but more like a movie I saw, because

520
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 7: the level of craziness was was was I can't even

521
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 7: really quite grasp it now, but I mean it was.

522
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 7: It was crazy. And then there were stilly things like

523
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 7: I bought my first house I ever bought was the

524
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 7: house where Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio had moved right

525
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 7: after their marriage. So there were people from Europe.

526
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, driving by your house.

527
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 7: No no, no, no, no, not driving, camping to take pictures

528
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 7: of it. And then I would come out like this

529
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 7: to go get the mail and oh my god, it's

530
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 7: not only Marilyn's house, but he's there too, so you know,

531
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 7: and but so I that it's I'm not complaining, but

532
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 7: it delayed. I was not ready to come out of

533
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 7: the egg. I was not ready to be a person,

534
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 7: for sure. I had never had money. I'd grown up

535
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 7: on welfare and then been, you know, eating an apple,

536
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 7: a Browning apple when the first so he was kind

537
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 7: of like taking a toddler and saying, here, you're going

538
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 7: to drive this submarine and you'll be fine.

539
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 6: So I was.

540
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 7: I was not equipped to do anything at all except

541
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 7: to play the character. I knew how to play the character,

542
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 7: but I didn't know how to do anything else.

543
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: So how did that play out for you?

544
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Then?

545
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Over the course of the years that you were on

546
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: the show, What did that look like?

547
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 7: What it looked like? Very soton very soon I would

548
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 7: play the thing, and people would make you know, they

549
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 7: would roar and and and love it. And then I'd

550
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 7: get in my car to drive home and I would

551
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 7: I would fantasize about a truck hitting me head on.

552
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: And just.

553
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 7: Because I didn't know how to live, I didn't know

554
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 7: how to do anything except do that performance. And I

555
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 7: was I wanted it. I wanted some some some, I

556
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 7: wanted something. I wanted it to stop. But I didn't

557
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 7: know how to tell anybody. So that that meant that

558
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 7: how can I explain it? It was really almost like

559
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 7: being you know, if you took a chair and waved

560
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 7: a wand over it and said now you're a person.

561
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 7: And and they don't really know how to fake being

562
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 7: a person. They just wait for it to you know,

563
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 7: wait for the enchantment to be over. It was just

564
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 7: too soon.

565
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happened so fast.

566
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 7: It happened so fast, And it wasn't It wasn't just

567
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 7: that I was a guy with no money who suddenly

568
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 7: had money and fame. It was that I was the

569
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 7: person who didn't even know how to I didn't even

570
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 7: know how to be a person.

571
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: Right.

572
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: Did you feel more like you were a person when

573
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: you were in character than you did when you were

574
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: were not acting.

575
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 7: Yes, but then something would happen like, I mean, everybody,

576
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: you know, they really adored that character. But of course

577
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 7: he was. He was the kind of person that's like,

578
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 7: you know, you at your very best. And then when

579
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 7: I would go home, uh, to normality, and my girlfriend

580
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 7: would be sitting watching TV with the dogs and not

581
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 7: look up, I would be crushed to a point like

582
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 7: something was wrong. Well, yeah, I mean there were police

583
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 7: holding people back from coming and giving hugs, and then

584
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 7: there were you know, and then there was just a

585
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 7: person who was bored by me or whatever the problem was.

586
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 7: You know, I started playing the happiest, happiest, most optimistic,

587
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 7: loving person alive, and I was the most unhappy.

588
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: So you're Polachi essentially kind of.

589
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was afraid. I was afraid to go

590
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 7: get treatment because I was afraid whether they fixed me

591
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 7: and then I couldn't act anymore or I couldn't play anymore.

592
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 7: But that turned out not to be the case, because

593
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 7: it just gave me more, It gave me more control

594
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 7: over my acting, and it gave me better access. But

595
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 7: but because of that doubt, I waited until nineteen ninety

596
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 7: six to go to go get you know, to go

597
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 7: get help. And by that point I would have if

598
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 7: somebody says something that I thought was hurtful or whatever,

599
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 7: I would go dark for like three days. And when

600
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 7: I say dark, I mean zombie. Wow. So I finally,

601
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 7: you know, I finally got sorted out. And then then

602
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 7: then I then I started to and enjoy myself and

603
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 7: live and do Broadway and do the West End and like,

604
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, is this what it's like?

605
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 7: Because markln Baker used to say to me all the time,

606
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 7: ro so, just let stuff roll off your back, And

607
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 7: I thought he was making that up. I didn't think

608
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 7: that was a thing that a human being could actually do.

609
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 7: I thought that was just a phrase. I didn't know

610
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 7: that somebody could come up and be unkind or just

611
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 7: dumb and that you could let that roll off your back.

612
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 7: I thought he was making it up to just get

613
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 7: me through the moment. I had no idea people could

614
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 7: do that. So that's been really eye opening, because you know,

615
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 7: there's lots of people who were ridiculous. I mean there

616
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 7: was somebody once I was getting on a plane and

617
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 7: I had lots of suitcases and things, and she ran

618
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 7: up just as we were boarding, and I don't like flying.

619
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 7: It makes me nervous. And she ran up and said,

620
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 7: could you sign this? And I said, I'd love to,

621
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 7: but as you can see, I don't have a free hand,

622
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 7: and I'm just getting on the plane and I I

623
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 7: hope I'll meet up with you again someday. So she's

624
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 7: she stood there and she yelled at the top of

625
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 7: her lung as well. I helped. The plane crashes, and

626
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 7: so there we all were, Oh my god, And that's

627
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: you know, that's that's bad enough if you've got if

628
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 7: you've got anxiety, if your own you know. Yeah, but

629
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 7: that's the kind of thing that happens if you're on

630
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 7: people's if you're on people's TVs and you're playing somebody

631
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 7: incredibly loving.

632
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Do you ever look back on those years then that

633
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: you were on the show and feel sad that you

634
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: didn't get to really celebrate those wins of that time.

635
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 7: Yeah. And I mean every day the whole cast and

636
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 7: lots of you know, members of the staff would go

637
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 7: out for lunch, and every day, God blessed them, they

638
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 7: would ask me, and I would say, no, I have

639
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 7: to stay you know, in character, and I have to

640
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 7: stay here and on perfect strangers. I have to stay

641
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 7: in my dressing room and be very simple and quiet

642
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 7: and have my berry because I was a vegan at

643
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 7: the time, and every day they would ask me, which

644
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 7: was so sweet when I look back on it. They

645
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 7: never gave up on me. But I'd never socialized. I never,

646
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 7: I mean, it all had to be for the character.

647
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 7: I wouldn't party, I wouldn't do anything for me. Life

648
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 7: was like I had an oxygen tank and I didn't

649
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 7: know how long I would be down snarkling, and so

650
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 7: I couldn't give any of the oxygen for anything else.

651
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 7: Like yes, so just just the way it was, I mean,

652
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 7: I look back on it, I couldn't even even with

653
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 7: my family. I would come and I would do Thanksgiving,

654
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 7: and one of my brothers would always have a new

655
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 7: girlfriend for Thanksgiving and then there'd be a new one

656
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 7: for Christmas. Every which meant that I had to make

657
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 7: a rule, which was no show biz at all, because

658
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 7: at Thanksgiving, I'm gonna have to sit there and talk

659
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 7: about what's so and so like, and what's so and

660
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 7: so like, and then three weeks later do it all

661
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 7: over again. And I don't like that. No show biz,

662
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 7: No show biz so I had I had a million

663
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 7: rules because I didn't have the skill set like nowadays.

664
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 7: There was a woman on a plane a few months

665
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 7: ago and she didn't know who the hell I was.

666
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 7: She sit next to me, and a flight attendant came

667
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 7: up and said, would you sign this menu? I said shirt,

668
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 7: and the woe next to me looked over, like, what's

669
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 7: that all about? And I didn't yeah. And then and

670
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 7: then somebody else came up and said would you sign

671
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 7: my napkin? And I said okay. And finally the woman

672
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 7: next to me said why are they doing that? And

673
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 7: I said because I'm an actor. And she said the

674
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 7: thing that they always say, well have you ever been

675
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 7: in anything that I have seen?

676
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Right?

677
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 7: Like?

678
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: You know?

679
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 7: So instead of you know, getting up up at the

680
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 7: I just said, let the words just come to Bronston

681
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 7: because you're a friendly, nice, warm person and you can

682
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 7: do this with humor. And it came to me and

683
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 7: I said to her, I don't know, why don't you

684
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: list everything you've ever seen and if I was in it?

685
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 7: And she laughed and I laughed, and then we had

686
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 7: a nice flight and we talked about nothing, because I

687
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 7: I there is a there is a fantastically nice, funny,

688
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 7: warm way to say no, I'm not gonna listen to

689
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 7: my credits. And I didn't when I was younger. I

690
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 7: didn't know that if you just take a breath, something

691
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 7: will come to you. That's that's kind of like true

692
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 7: but also fun. And we were laughing. We were laughing.

693
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 7: She was like, oh, yeah, I get it. Yeah, And

694
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 7: if we had the Greens time we chatted, we we've

695
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 7: made fun of the movie. We but I, you know,

696
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 7: like I didn't know that if you just took a second,

697
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 7: the right, the right, and and and and just choice

698
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 7: words that let everybody still be a human would come

699
00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 7: to you.

700
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: Well, now I'm so curious.

701
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 5: You talked about how essentially you were one person in

702
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 5: the early eighties, and like we all do, we change,

703
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 5: but you really had a big change in the nineties.

704
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: So when you got to go back to then play the.

705
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: Same character again that you did in something like Beverly

706
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: Hills Cop, did you come at it from a different

707
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 5: way because now you were such a different person When

708
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 5: you went back to the character again, you came back

709
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: it the same line characters.

710
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 7: You know, as any astrophysicists will tell you, there really

711
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 7: is this thing as time, and as any psychotherapists will

712
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 7: tell you, the unconscious has no grasp of time. So

713
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 7: I mean, I kai smell if someone makes big plant

714
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 7: farmers dount exactly the way my mom did, I'll start

715
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 7: crying because that's it. So what you know, characters certainly

716
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 7: have no concept of time. No, And as soon as

717
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 7: you start to do it, or I do that, and

718
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 7: it's the same, it's nineteen eighty four again, and there's

719
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 7: no there's no passage of time at all. And also

720
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 7: I was quite lucky in around two thousand and three,

721
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 7: two thousand and four, two thousand and five, as fate

722
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 7: would have it, I did two plays back to back

723
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 7: where I played multiple characters, and I'm talking about one.

724
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 7: In one play, thirty eight different characters, and then right

725
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 7: after it a play where I played eight different characters.

726
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 7: And in both plays it was male, female, old, young,

727
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 7: in between every nationality, every ethnicity, every everything. And in

728
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 7: both plays it was part of the magic of the

729
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 7: play that you didn't have. There were no costumes, there

730
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 7: were no props. You just transformed. So doing that for

731
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 7: three years really expunge the final you know, I used

732
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 7: to be the kind of person who would say, well,

733
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 7: I'm you know, if you want me to play this

734
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 7: seventeenth century musketeer and you don't have the musketeer hat

735
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 7: and the exact rapier, how am I supposed to.

736
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: Be having from?

737
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 7: But after you play thirty eight plus eight forty six

738
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: characters without having anything, and you have to turn, you

739
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 7: have to go from an eighty five year old Irish

740
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 7: priest to a five year old you know, and to

741
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 7: it for a little boy to a box and sexy

742
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 7: amazing female movie star boo boo boo boo boom blah

743
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 7: boom like that. Then you stop, you know, you stop

744
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 7: saying if you don't give me the hat and the rapier,

745
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 7: I can't do it. You never the final the final

746
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 7: piece was that I did for two seasons on DIYTV.

747
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 7: I did my version of a home renovation show on

748
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 7: the DIY TV where I worked on my own homes.

749
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 7: I had half a dozen I would redo rooms, I

750
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 7: would redo the whole house using pre Civil War architectural salvage.

751
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 7: And it was called the Bronzen Pinchow project. And once

752
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 7: in a while they would say, oh yeah, when you

753
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 7: went to the salvage yard, you got out of the

754
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 7: truck before the truck even stopped moving, and we didn't

755
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 7: get a clean shot of that, so let's do it again.

756
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 7: And I would say, well, no, that's what I do.

757
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 7: I'm excited. And I got out of a moving truck

758
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 7: and they called the Bronzon Pincho Project and it ain't

759
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 7: going to get any more bronze and pinch show than that, right,

760
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 7: And they'd say, well, the shot is, the SHOT's not cleaned,

761
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: and I would say, well, maybe you should be readier,

762
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 7: because I mean, I wasn't being a brat. I was

763
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 7: just there was another time where you know, they move

764
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 7: into your house and the cameras are there, they live there.

765
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 7: And another time, these two beautiful like eighteen forties gas

766
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 7: lamps arrived and they had been poorly packed and they

767
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 7: were broken into a million pieces. But you have a deadline,

768
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 7: so they're filming me. I opened the box and I want, okay,

769
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 7: get the dealer, you know. I sent an email to

770
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 7: the dealer and find out if you ensure them. All right,

771
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 7: what are we doing next? And they said, cut, cut,

772
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 7: cut cut. You really need to be a lot more upset,

773
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 7: said I just was in real time, just out as

774
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 7: Bronson Pincho at my own house, opening a thing in

775
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 7: real time, no happening to be what what do you

776
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 7: want me to do? Reality TV? That's that's as upset

777
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 7: as I have the time and energy to get. That's

778
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 7: what you got to be kidding me, Well, we need it,

779
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 7: it would be more accident. No, thank you. I actually

780
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 7: I had a great I had a great line. He said,

781
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 7: we need we need you to be more worried all

782
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 7: the time about something you can pick. I said, well,

783
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 7: I'm worried that you're not giving me enough money to

784
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 7: do these episodes. And they said no, but but you know,

785
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 7: could you can we can we make it that there's

786
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 7: a giant storm coming And I said, And the director

787
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 7: loved this so much because he was a goofball. He

788
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 7: said that the network said, like, if if you could

789
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 7: do like there's a storm coming, or there's a there's

790
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: a you know, like a building inspector coming or something

791
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 7: that just makes it all like worried all the time.

792
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 7: And I said, I am not participating in bull crape.

793
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: The only real stress I have is that they're not

794
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 7: giving me enough money to do these rooms the way

795
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 7: I want. So I'm using my own money, so I'm

796
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 7: not making any money the real stress and if you

797
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 7: don't want to show the real stress, I'm not doing stress.

798
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 7: So I'm not participating. And all the crew who all

799
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 7: lived up there and would be in the house and

800
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 7: they went went you. Did you hear them in the

801
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 7: other room say that. Samony would say, do you want

802
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 7: to get like chicken salad? And I'm not participating inpating.

803
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: Well, a few years ago we did a commercial together

804
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: for the ABC reboot of TGIF. It was me Reginald

805
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: Bell Johnson and you and Mark Lynn Baker, and I

806
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: vividly remember they wanted you to to do the dance

807
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: of joy and yes, and there was like a real

808
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: hush on the set and it was so incredible because

809
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: both of you were not really sure you fully remembered it,

810
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: and then you guys rehearsed it very briefly. You nailed it.

811
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: It was perfect. It was like no time had passed

812
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: and the both of your faces just lit up, and

813
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: there was so much.

814
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: Joy around the two of you.

815
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I just I just had to mention that because are

816
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: you guys still very close?

817
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 7: Oh? Yes. The funny thing is we're so close that

818
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 7: I don't even know every once in a while I'll

819
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 7: think of something and I'll just text him. And we

820
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 7: share an agent for personal appearances. And the agent, well,

821
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 7: he's a very nice guy, but he'll he'll say to me,

822
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 7: are you on board? Uh, We're gonna do a personal

823
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 7: appearance in Knoxville in July. Are you on board uh

824
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 7: for these? Uh? This, this and this? And I'll say yes,

825
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 7: and he'll say great. And I'll say, but I but

826
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: only if Mark is nude. So I know that he

827
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 7: has to professional. As a professional, he has to pass

828
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 7: that message.

829
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk very briefly about another classic movie

830
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: or in True Romance. It was written by Quentin Tarantino,

831
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: directed by Tony Scott, a star studded cast.

832
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: What was that experience like for you?

833
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 7: Well, I want to tell you about the most Hollywoodish

834
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 7: thing that ever happened to me ever, all all in

835
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 7: one thing. Okay. So there's a scene in it where

836
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: I'm driving in a was it open that was open convertible?

837
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was a nine to eleven slant

838
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: nose with the open top, the white one.

839
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 7: Okay, So with this adorable actress playing a crackhore and

840
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 7: we're driving and then I and then we shot me

841
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 7: driving first, and then I had to pull over, and

842
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 7: because the cop was behind me, so we had already

843
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 7: shot a good portion of the scene when it was

844
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 7: time to pull over. And when it was time to

845
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 7: pull over, Uh, I looked down and realized, because they're

846
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 7: they're toning you. They're toning you, you know, and shoot

847
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 7: you tell truck is playing. So yeah, I could pretend

848
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 7: I'm driving, but then it's time to pull over the car.

849
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 7: And I said, oh my goodness, this is stick shift.

850
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 7: I don't know how to drive stick shift. And you

851
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 7: can't very well pull over in park if you can't

852
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 7: drive stick shift. So Tony says, are you kidding me?

853
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 7: Nobody elst him. If you can drive, the fuck are

854
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 7: you're going to get this stop? And so he was

855
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 7: because we were really just so We're way up on

856
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 7: mulhalland drive in LA and I'm like, to dude, he's

857
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 7: not my fault. So my hair is black at that

858
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 7: point in time. So they hurriedly decide, and I had

859
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 7: not been wearing sunglasses. They hurriedly decided the only way

860
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 7: out of it is to get this one of the

861
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 7: one of the crew who knew how to drive stick

862
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 7: They just spray painted his hair black, and then he

863
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 7: pulled the car over, and Tony said, does it look

864
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 7: a thing Bronson? So somebody said, how about sunglasses? And

865
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 7: he said, but he's not wearing glasses in the scene.

866
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 7: And so somebody said maybe Bronson would would pantomime putting

867
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 7: on sunglasses and some other part of the scene, and

868
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 7: I said, I will, It's fine. So they're they're painting

869
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 7: this guy's head. They're painting his head and he's pulling over.

870
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 7: Tony is still hyperventilating. The man's head is painted and

871
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 7: he's pulling over, and I have nothing to do while

872
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 7: I do that, And just at that moment, Madonna cycles

873
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 7: by in head to toe lycra. God, it's never gonna

874
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 7: get any more holiday, right, They just they just painted

875
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 7: somebody to pretend to be me. Everybody's upset and yelling,

876
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 7: and nobody but me sees that Madonna has just cycled

877
00:48:51,520 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 7: by in in like purple and lime green lycra. This

878
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 7: is so wonderful. Nobody is paying attention because they're busy

879
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 7: watching the man painted to be me and so funny.

880
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: God.

881
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: Also, to call you prolific in the world of audio

882
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 1: books would be a wild understatement.

883
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: Well over four hundred books.

884
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 7: Well over four hundred and fifty.

885
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: Please, oh my gosh, well over four hundred and fifty books,

886
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: tons of awards. You are a legend in the field.

887
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: What makes giving a voice to a book so exciting

888
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: to you?

889
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 7: Well, it is like it is like going to the

890
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 7: acting gym like constantly, and I have to say, because

891
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 7: you're sitting in the booth the size of the front

892
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 7: seat of a car, and I'm claustrophobic, and you have

893
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 7: to be the narrator. You have to give it the

894
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 7: narrator a voice, and then you have to give every

895
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 7: single character a voice. And then sometimes I just did

896
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 7: a book where the I just did a book the

897
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 7: narrator is he's been brainwashed with drugs to think he's

898
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 7: three different people. So you have to have three different

899
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 7: voices for different sections of the book. And this one

900
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 7: is been throwing up all the time, so his voice

901
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 7: has to be hoarse, and this one on some different

902
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 7: kind of drug. And then you have to be all

903
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 7: the characters. And then one character is when when people

904
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 7: are around, she's in hiding, so she has a fake

905
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 7: Southern accent when there's people around. But then when people

906
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 7: aren't around she she's got her own accent and blah

907
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah. And so it is like, I'm

908
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 7: not a big fan of juggling, but when people are

909
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 7: really good at it, I'm like, And so it's like that.

910
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 7: It's like the kind where you're catching things you didn't

911
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 7: even throw. It's like you're juggling and then there's a

912
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 7: bird and then there's fire. And it's awfully good for

913
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 7: keeping the whole acting musculature super fit because you don't

914
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 7: have any time. I mean, I would say really, between

915
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 7: those multi character plays and the books, my prep time

916
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 7: nowadays is negative one minute. I because you you know,

917
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 7: you think when you're twenty five, well, I have to

918
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 7: have an hour in pitch dark with no sensory anything

919
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 7: so I can get into this one character. And then

920
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 7: you know, after you've done forty eight characters on stages

921
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 7: from London, Sacramento, and four hundred and fifty audiobooks with

922
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 7: ten characters each, you're like, character boom, It's like what

923
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 7: and so I it it has and I do them.

924
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 7: I do them all the time, and they keep me

925
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 7: from going nuts in between acting gigs. But it also

926
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 7: teaches you something we already all know. You know, if

927
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 7: if you and I are going to take a friend

928
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 7: out to dinner, and it's a very important thing, and

929
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 7: one of us dropped the ball and forgot to make

930
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 7: the reservation, we will look at each other and go

931
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 7: all right, the person doing the reservations that they look

932
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 7: like they like guys or girls. In fact, they like guys, Bronson,

933
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: So I will go up and be so flirtatious. I

934
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 7: will get us at table, because the stakes are life

935
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 7: and death. And if we decide that they like girls,

936
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 7: you'll go up and be like ah, and you will

937
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 7: just do it right. You do it all the time.

938
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 7: You you act all the time in life all the time.

939
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 7: My mother, you know, was in a she had an

940
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 7: operation once since she was she had to go to

941
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 7: a rehabilitation center. And I had bought a house, but

942
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 7: I knew my mom would disapprove, so I hadn't. I

943
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 7: bought it in my sisters name. And my mother looked

944
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 7: at me on the pillows and went, tell me the truth,

945
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 7: look into my eyes and tell me did you buy

946
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 7: that house? And I said no. And so when the

947
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 7: when the stakes are high, we all act all day

948
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 7: long with no prep at all, you know, or if

949
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 7: you're trying to get a toddler to eat their yogurt

950
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 7: or whatever, and just do it. And so if you

951
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 7: do doing the audiobooks reminds me like, dude, you don't need,

952
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 7: you know, to be like one guy dying on the

953
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 7: battlefield and his best friend holding him and crying. You

954
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 7: don't have time you like do a prep for each character.

955
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 7: You cry, and then you say it will be all right,

956
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 7: and then you cry and then you die and then

957
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 7: you say, oh my god, my friend died. Now I'm crying,

958
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 7: and then you just do it. Yeah, and and so

959
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 7: it's it's the it's the acting gym. It really is

960
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 7: the acting gym. And it makes me chuckle a little

961
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 7: bit when people say, Okay, I'm sorry, I've got to

962
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 7: stop this conversation out because in three days I'm doing

963
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 7: the scene. I'm like, there are three days you don't

964
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 7: need it, But that's what it does for you. Plus

965
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 7: there's you know, there's people that are bed ridden or

966
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 7: they're on a twenty hour trip or whatever. And I

967
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 7: always think, okay, so I'm just gonna do this in

968
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 7: such a way that you'll laugh or you'll cry or

969
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 7: you'll forget you know that you're on up a big

970
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 7: long and it's it's marvelous. It's really fun, and it's

971
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 7: so intimate because most acting, even if the camera is okay,

972
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 7: so this this phone here is like seventeen inches from

973
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 7: my face. But when you do an audio book, I'm

974
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 7: speaking into a mic, I like the mic really close.

975
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 7: So my mic is like there, I like it. I

976
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 7: like the you're too young to remember Tom Jones, you guys.

977
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: Times of course had the mic like.

978
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 7: Inside him.

979
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.

980
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 7: I like the mic pretty close. I could, so I

981
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 7: could be super intimate. And then I think to myself,

982
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 7: this is so amazing because when somebody listens to the book,

983
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 7: they're going to have earphones on, and the earphones are

984
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 7: how how close are your earphones to your actual brain?

985
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 7: Maybe an inch? Yeah? Maybe right? Yeah, I've got the

986
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 7: mic maybe an inch from my mouth. And then the

987
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 7: the the people that are going to experience this storytelling,

988
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 7: it's an like that is the closest you are ever

989
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 7: going to get, even if you're lovers. Even if your

990
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 7: lovers you have to back up a little. It's like

991
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 7: you're it's the most intimate.

992
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 5: You're literally well you're the voice in our head, you're

993
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: the voice in their head when we're reading ahead.

994
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 7: And what happens sometimes that's a marvelous something that the

995
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 7: book that's latent in the book becomes much more pronounced

996
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 7: in the audio version. And one version I can give

997
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 7: is there was a somebody that wrote a book about

998
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 7: the race of the North Pole. It was a Norwegian

999
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: explorer who actually got there first, and then it was

1000
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 7: a British explorer who actually froze to death before he

1001
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 7: got there. The book was written by a brit and

1002
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 7: he was kind of hard on the British explorer. He

1003
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 7: kept saying all the way through the book, if he

1004
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 7: had been less stuffy and less British, he would have

1005
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 7: understood this, this, and this. So he was kind of

1006
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 7: hard on the British explorer, and it just as it happened.

1007
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 7: The very last page of the book was the piece

1008
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 7: of paper they found in his frozen hand when they

1009
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 7: found his dead body, his frozen body, he was writing

1010
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 7: with a pen in his tent and he froze to death.

1011
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 7: So the very last page of it was this entry

1012
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 7: from his diary saying, I know people have found fault

1013
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 7: with me, and I know I haven't been the best.

1014
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 7: But for the love of God, whoever finds this way,

1015
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 7: you please please take care of my wife and children.

1016
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 7: And so my voice I broke down reading it and

1017
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 7: I said to the engineer, do not you don't you

1018
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 7: dare ask me to do another take of that that

1019
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 7: because that is what he was feeling. And so the

1020
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 7: audiobook version of this book, where the British author was

1021
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 7: kind of ragging on him, he gets the last word,

1022
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 7: please please think of me with humanity. I mean, I

1023
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 7: choked up thinking about it. And that's like I didn't

1024
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 7: really change it. It's just the last word is by

1025
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 7: this man who died as he wrote these words. No

1026
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 7: matter what you say about him, he actually is having

1027
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 7: the last word because it's an audiobook and you can't

1028
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 7: it's wonderful. That happens quite a lot in audiobooks. Is

1029
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 7: a quality that may or may not have. Either it's

1030
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 7: in the book, but it becomes much more luminous, or

1031
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 7: it's kind of not in the book but there's no

1032
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 7: way around it, and that's it's kind of neat, that's

1033
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 7: wonderful special, or or sometimes there's like in a mystery,

1034
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: you know, there's there's a there's a character with an

1035
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 7: identifiable accent, and he's actually the murderer, and at a

1036
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 7: crucial point of the book, he comes up behind the

1037
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 7: main character and says, now, I've got you. Well, on

1038
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 7: the page, it doesn't say who it is, but if

1039
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 7: you're doing the same voice you've already created, then the

1040
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 7: listener does know who it is. And that's fun. It's

1041
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 7: like whoa, it's it's suddenly in three D. This isn't

1042
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 7: this is what you isn't what it would look like

1043
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 7: on the page. My favorite example ever was there was

1044
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 7: there's a book that ended with this guy. He's getting

1045
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 7: stabbed and he's he makes his way into a building

1046
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 7: and he knows he's dying. So he's crawling across the floor,

1047
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 7: dying of blood loss, and he's trying to stay aware

1048
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 7: and alive until he reaches the phone and he's talking

1049
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 7: to himself and talking to himself, and finally, right in

1050
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 7: the middle of a sentence, it stops and the rest

1051
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 7: of the page is blank, so that you understand reading

1052
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 7: it that he has died of blood loss. That's it

1053
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 7: doesn't say he died of blood loss. He just stops thinking.

1054
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 7: And so it's very, very meaningful on the page. You

1055
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 7: see this blank page. So I did it like that.

1056
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 7: I just stopped right like that, and the note came

1057
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 7: back from the proofreader. The thought seems unfinished.

1058
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1059
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 7: Yeah he's dead.

1060
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 4: Yeah he's gone.

1061
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 7: And that's the way it's got to be.

1062
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to stay that way.

1063
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 7: That's what the You know, if you don't have the

1064
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 7: book in front of you, this is I'm not even

1065
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 7: sure it's the next best thing. It's it's just as

1066
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 7: good as it's like this. The existence of this brain

1067
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 7: has ceased. But it's so funny the notes you get unfinished.

1068
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: I have one last question for you, and forgive me

1069
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: if you do not know this, but we are one

1070
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: year away from Perfect Stranger's fortieth anniversary. Yeah, I wanted

1071
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: to know if you could go back and tell young

1072
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: Bronzon something on the set of his massive, huge hit

1073
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: TV show, what would be the one message you would

1074
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: give young Bronson.

1075
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say a thing he for for acting wise, No.

1076
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: Just any message now, knowing what you know now, having

1077
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: lived the life you've lived, now, if you could go

1078
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: back and tell him.

1079
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 7: Anything, because he did it as he did it to

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Speaker 7: the best of his abilities. What he did was conserve

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Speaker 7: one hundred percent of himself for that performance, and at

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Speaker 7: the time that led to people saying, you don't socialize

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Speaker 7: very much, and you know, but the performance stands and

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Speaker 7: now I'm still here, So I wouldn't change I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: change anything. Not that he would have listened, but his

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Speaker 7: feeling was one hundred percent of it belongs on screen

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Speaker 7: and I'm going to pour my heart into it and

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Speaker 7: it's still there. Yeah, So I mean nothing.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful Bronson, Thank you so much for spending some time

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Speaker 1: with us today.

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Speaker 3: We so appreciate you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for your patience.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so wonderful. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day. Enjoy the rest of your weekend

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 7: Big love, Thank you so much, Thank you bye.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. He's got so many interesting stories he

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Speaker 3: is in.

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Speaker 5: Like I mean, if you listed twenty of my favorite movies,

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Speaker 5: he's probably in eight or nine of them.

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Speaker 4: Seriously, he has one of those.

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Speaker 3: Get to ask about after hours after our.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want

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Speaker 5: to jump in and interrupt any of his stories. But

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Speaker 5: he's there for like the start of the careers of

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Speaker 5: Tom cruise Matt Dillon.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's what Eddie Murphy you need.

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Speaker 5: It's one after another of these people that became went

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Speaker 5: on to define Hollywood, and he was right there for

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Speaker 5: for just star after star after star.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing when you love.

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Speaker 2: You know, his laugh with his co star, like the

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Speaker 2: idea that they have, that mind meld, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I get it, we get it.

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Speaker 6: That's that's that's still in us.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know he described it so well, but

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Speaker 2: also just watching him do it, like they kept happening

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Speaker 2: to him and we brought him up.

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Speaker 6: He's like, well, let me tell you about this, and

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Speaker 6: then he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Even really have much of a story because it's just

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Speaker 2: their connection. It's like it's even probably not that funny,

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Speaker 2: but he's a perfect Yes, it's so cool speaking a

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Speaker 2: witch rider.

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Speaker 5: Right now you have the perfect Superman Clark curl.

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Speaker 6: Look at that right Wow? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, straight up Clark Kent. I love it, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Time to take some heads shots.

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Speaker 4: But if you put on a haired glasses, I would

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Speaker 4: know who you were. Who are crazy?

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Speaker 6: Who are you crazy? But the Curl's never there when

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Speaker 6: he's Clark right.

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Speaker 4: The curl is yeah, it's part of Superman mostly Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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