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Speaker 1: How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.
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Speaker 1: you know that means, well, it means we got big
Speaker 1: business to talk about. Aw big business was last night,
Speaker 1: and shockingly, I don't know if you're aware of this
Speaker 1: or not, it was the debut of Mercedes Monai. Yes,
Speaker 1: she is all elite and she made her debut and
Speaker 1: she's going to be on the show next week. She
Speaker 1: was in the opening segment and the main events segment,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be very interesting to see the quarter
Speaker 1: Hours here today because yesterday I argued vehemently, vehemently not
Speaker 1: to put her in the opening segment of the show, because,
Speaker 1: as we have learned from watching The Rock, if you
Speaker 1: put the big surprise at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 1: well when the deal's over, they leave the segment of
Speaker 1: the audience leaves. And when you put Rock at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, you do a gigantic number because
Speaker 1: people wait till the end of the show. So I thought, well,
Speaker 1: you should put her at the end of the show.
Speaker 1: Well she was at the end of the show, but
Speaker 1: we will find out be the Quarter Hours if they
Speaker 1: made that clear enough in the opening segment, because if
Speaker 1: the show does very well and the last segment does well,
Speaker 1: people got the clue, and if it didn't, they didn't
Speaker 1: get the clue that she was going to be coming
Speaker 1: back there at the end. But we gotta talk about that.
Speaker 1: Gotta talk about Mark Coleman, who is a hero. He
Speaker 1: saved his family from a burning house and for those
Speaker 1: who heard the show yesterday, he is doing better. So
Speaker 1: that's good news. Talk about Jackie Crockett passing away Minneapolis,
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Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
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Speaker 1: Man the show Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike
Speaker 1: Simber VV, also of Wrestling Observer dot Com, talk about
Speaker 1: Mercedes here in a moment, but first we got to
Speaker 1: talk about this story. Mark Coleman says he is the
Speaker 1: happiest man in the world. Fifty nine year old has
Speaker 1: been hospitalized and saving his parents from a house fire
Speaker 1: early Tuesday morning Freemont, Ohio. Coleman was visiting his parents.
Speaker 1: By the way, how lucky was at He was visiting
Speaker 1: his parents when his dog, Hammer woke him up around
Speaker 1: four am, alerting him to the fire. After getting his
Speaker 1: elderly parents to safety, Coleman re entered the burning building
Speaker 1: to rescue Hammer, who unfortunately did not survive. So his dog.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even going to be staying there, so apparently
Speaker 1: there was like a fire in the kitchen, and had
Speaker 1: he not stayed over, I mean, this would have just
Speaker 1: likely been a tragedy. But he stayed over. His dog
Speaker 1: woke him up at four am. I believe he got
Speaker 1: his father out of the house, he went back in,
Speaker 1: he got his mother out of the house. He went
Speaker 1: back in to get his dog, but he couldn't get
Speaker 1: the dog, and then he had suffered so much smoke
Speaker 1: inhalation that he collapsed and he was covered in soot,
Speaker 1: soot in his lungs and airlifted the hospital, intubated, sedated,
Speaker 1: and it was it was I don't think there was
Speaker 1: ever appeared where they thought he wasn't going to make it.
Speaker 1: Even the first report I got was that it's really
Speaker 1: really bad, but he probably can pull through this. And
Speaker 1: on Thursday he woke up. He said, I'm the happiest
Speaker 1: man in the world, Swear to God him so lucky.
Speaker 1: Can't believe my parents are alive. Had to make a
Speaker 1: decision because I got out of my room and went
Speaker 1: to the door and it was already horrible, couldn't Breathe
Speaker 1: almost had to go outside, and I went back in
Speaker 1: and got him. I can't believe it. I got them,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't find hammer. So there's a GoFundMe if
Speaker 1: you want to check that out. It's on the front
Speaker 1: page of pressing Observe dot com. The link probably all
Speaker 1: over the internet as well. I think they're like seventy
Speaker 1: thousand dollars already, and I think this thing went up
Speaker 1: this morning. But yeah, it looks like he's going to
Speaker 1: be all right, the roof of the home collapsed shortly
Speaker 1: after they arrived on the scene. And uh, what a hero, dude,
Speaker 1: Holy smokes. Mark Coleman. One of the toughest guys ever
Speaker 1: in MMA, and now he saved his family from a
Speaker 1: burning house. So what a guy.
Speaker 6: Unbelievable human being, unbelievably tough human being. He can't tell
Speaker 6: the history of mixed martial arts without Mark Coleman. An
Speaker 6: incredible career and just an incredible story and an incredible
Speaker 6: tragedy that was spared by that chance that he happened
Speaker 6: to be staying there. So unbelievable and all the best
Speaker 6: of Mark Coleman.
Speaker 1: So yes, we did have the debut yesterday of Mercedes Monai,
Speaker 1: and as I talked about in the opening segment, I'm
Speaker 1: intrigued by the quarter hours for this show. It's one day,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how things go long term. But
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is they brought her out at the
Speaker 1: very beginning of the show, and the question is she
Speaker 1: did her whole promo. We'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1: And at the end she said, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: tear it up with every single one of you. We'll
Speaker 1: start with the main events tonight ReHO versus Willow Nightingale, Willow,
Speaker 1: You and I have a lot of unfinished business. But
Speaker 1: right now at big business, I'm all elite. And they
Speaker 1: played her music and she danced and she left, and
Speaker 1: I I thought, is she coming back or what?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: They didn't announce it. So the question is, you know
Speaker 1: how many fans thought she was coming back at the end.
Speaker 1: If they thought she was coming back at the end,
Speaker 1: which she did, I think this show is going to
Speaker 1: do a very very good number if they didn't get
Speaker 1: the hint that she was coming back at the end.
Speaker 1: I do expect it to be a very big first
Speaker 1: quarter and then uh and then fall back to normal
Speaker 1: levels throughout the rest of the show. So we shall see.
Speaker 1: But she is Mercedes Monette. Her gimmick is she is
Speaker 1: the CEO, which Tony is allowing her to be called
Speaker 1: the CEO.
Speaker 6: You already hate that, don't you.
Speaker 1: I don't, actually, you know what, I don't mind CEO
Speaker 1: at all, But you know what I do not like what.
Speaker 1: I hate this theme.
Speaker 6: Just you like it more than the last one.
Speaker 1: That one was weird too, but I like, I mean
Speaker 1: this one. It's like she's got this new song, which
Speaker 1: is really funny because when you listen to it, it
Speaker 1: actually sounds like the beginning of Gunther's theme, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it breaks into Chance of Ceo,
Speaker 1: like they put chance in the theme. And I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just seems like it's gonna get grating
Speaker 1: real quick. But I mean everything else that was a
Speaker 1: good debut place when Nuts for Her came out, did
Speaker 1: a promo, talked about her history, talked about her dream
Speaker 1: of becoming the best wrestler, the best women's wrestler of
Speaker 1: all time, dropping out of school at thirteen, chaotic wrestling
Speaker 1: at eighteen and ninety pounds, and she wants to make
Speaker 1: magic here in aew and it does appear actually I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that, but I mean, she's gonna do something
Speaker 1: with Willow at some point. She's getting her win back
Speaker 1: at some point. She was never supposed to lose to
Speaker 1: Willow for the new Japan Women's title, but she got
Speaker 1: hurt and put her over, and so presumably at some
Speaker 1: point she will beat Willow. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: if it's imminent. I mean, you could have Willow win
Speaker 1: a title from somebody and then she ends up beating
Speaker 1: her at some point down the road. I think her
Speaker 1: first few should be like a big name, and you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of her promo, she she didn't quite do,
Speaker 1: but she started She's gonna go see and then she
Speaker 1: went e or whatever, by the crowd chanted along. It
Speaker 1: was exactly like Britt Baker's DMD and so I don't
Speaker 1: know if that was on purpose or not, but I
Speaker 1: know that Britt was not at the show. She was
Speaker 1: not in the building. I don't know what they're gonna
Speaker 1: do with her, but that seems like a natural feud.
Speaker 1: So it looks like probably at some point Britt, probably
Speaker 1: at some point Willow. But I guess we'll know more
Speaker 1: next week because she will be in the building. But
Speaker 1: what did you think of this debut?
Speaker 6: You know, yesterday I was going to bring up you
Speaker 6: could debut her at the beginning of the show, but
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to put you know, come back to
Speaker 6: her at a couple of times during the show, which
Speaker 6: they did not do. Now, it should have probably been
Speaker 6: enough of a whistle to all the aw fans that okay,
Speaker 6: instead of the world title match, Rijo and Willow is
Speaker 6: closing the show that probably should have been assigned to
Speaker 6: people that, yeah, said Sasha and Mercedes.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be. It certainly should be a clue.
Speaker 6: It should be. But what they also probably could have done,
Speaker 6: maybe helped a little bit, is also insert her into
Speaker 6: seeing somebody backstage or having one of those things. And
Speaker 6: I know it's a very wwe thing to do, but
Speaker 6: probably wouldn't have been the worst idea in the world. Regardless.
Speaker 6: I'm with you when it comes to the Britt Baker deal.
Speaker 6: At some point we're going to have Jamie Hayter come back,
Speaker 6: hopefully at some point here in twenty twenty four. It's
Speaker 6: got to happen sooner or later. So you have a
Speaker 6: few that could possibly happen there as well too. But
Speaker 6: if it's not going to be Tony Storm, and it
Speaker 6: does not look like it's going to be the case
Speaker 6: with Deanna Parrazzo continuing to go after her, to me,
Speaker 6: Britt Baker coming back, look, Adam Cole is a heel.
Speaker 6: She comes back upset with the treatment that this person's
Speaker 6: got walking in and all these other women have got
Speaker 6: walking in the door. Turn her heel to me, that's
Speaker 6: the perfect first feud.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I gotta say that if you're going
Speaker 1: to bring back Bridge Baker like I think she does,
Speaker 1: she's she's better as a heel. Okay, absolutely, But man,
Speaker 1: I watched this show and how many heels do we need? Brother?
Speaker 1: We got a lot, a lot, a lot of heels
Speaker 1: in AAW and thankfully they've at least turned Swerve and
Speaker 1: now we've got Will Ospray, although he's still with a
Speaker 1: heel group. I mean, they'll have to figure out that story.
Speaker 6: Well so technically so a Swerve although we saw Total Leona.
Speaker 1: No swerves definitely turned last week. But here's the thing, Well,
Speaker 1: with a heel group, yes.
Speaker 6: Bishop, yeah exactly, and Bishop conn and Total Leona kind
Speaker 6: of came out on their own with their new gear on.
Speaker 6: So maybe that's a sign that they're going to be
Speaker 6: distancing them and Brian Cage officially away from Swerve and
Speaker 6: from Nanna, and they should and it's going to be
Speaker 6: something they'll need to actually take care of on the
Speaker 6: ROH broadcast as well as AW.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll talk more about that Ali show here
Speaker 1: in a little while, but a couple of other news
Speaker 1: notes here and after the break, and again, if you
Speaker 1: want to Texas, what did you think four seven eight
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure before the break I lay
Speaker 1: down some big time praise of AW because next week
Speaker 1: Dynamite in Toronto. We already have five matches for the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Next week it's the Iquit match Christian versus
Speaker 1: Adam Copeland. Something we'll get to here in a moment,
Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston versus Okada for the Continental title. Mercedes will
Speaker 1: be there to do an interview, Deanna Parozzo and a
Speaker 1: mystery partner versus Tony Storman, Mariah May and Chris Jericho
Speaker 1: versus Five matches already announced for next week. So if
Speaker 1: you're in Toronto and you're waffling, brother, you know it's
Speaker 1: going to be on the show. You got no excuse.
Speaker 1: Now go buy some tickets. Back in a moment of
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Speaker 1: Hey, you ever heard of a compliment sandwich?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, I liked a lot of stuff on AW last night,
Speaker 1: but there was one thing on that show that my
Speaker 1: brain is melting. It's melting, okay.
Speaker 6: Lionhuwk no, fine with that.
Speaker 1: So Ocatta debuts last week. He's a heel, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, if you want the bun part of this compliment, sandwich, golly,
Speaker 1: I love this guy is a heel. He's the best.
Speaker 1: If I had to choose the young bucks, Nocada's baby heels.
Speaker 1: Heals nine days out of the week, and there's only
Speaker 1: seven days last I checked. Things might have changed with
Speaker 1: daylight savings time. But anyway, so he debuts and you know,
Speaker 1: beats down Eddie Kingston everything, and when the show's over,
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, call Lee g at the pay
Speaker 1: per view, Oh Cotton Eddie Kingston for the Continental Crown
Speaker 1: and and you know Cotta probably should win, come to
Speaker 1: conton the Continental whatever.
Speaker 6: They call it Continental Crown.
Speaker 1: Sure, so they do a six man this week, like,
Speaker 1: golly man, what a match? You know? All these great
Speaker 1: guys return a park.
Speaker 6: You tell us a man with two young kids saying,
Speaker 6: golly so much.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I hey, if I if I gave this
Speaker 1: brand tonight on the brin of any show, there'd be
Speaker 1: a lot of other words. But anyway, they do this match,
Speaker 1: great match, a lot of fun and uh and Okata
Speaker 1: hits the rain Maker on Eddie and pins him, and
Speaker 1: of course my first thought is, okay, this is the
Speaker 1: exact same thing they did with Brian Danielson. Danielson pin
Speaker 1: him in a match, set up a match in the
Speaker 1: pay per view. Whatever that's I don't care. I'm not
Speaker 1: mad about that. But then then they announce that it
Speaker 1: is not Eddie Kingston and Okada for the Continental Crown
Speaker 1: the pay per view. They announce it is Eddie versus
Speaker 1: Okada only only for the Continental Belt next Wednesday. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, hold on a second, where'd even begin.
Speaker 1: First off, first off, why do we need this match
Speaker 1: next Wednesday when we already have Adam Copeland versus Christian
Speaker 1: in their big blowoff match for the title in Toronto. Listen, Yes,
Speaker 1: you should, of course have a full lineup for the show.
Speaker 1: People may want to see other people, but brother, that's
Speaker 1: what you need for next week's show. That's all you
Speaker 1: need for the show. You have not their actual aw names,
Speaker 1: but it's Edge and Christian for the title. Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't need anything else for next week, but you know
Speaker 1: what you got to show the week after, you could
Speaker 1: do it there, but anyway, whatever, they're doing the match
Speaker 1: next week. So now it's only for the Continental Belt,
Speaker 1: not the Continental Crown. It's for one of the three belts. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now there's only there's only three finishes possible. Okay. Finish
Speaker 1: number one is you do a disqualification or something in
Speaker 1: no title changes hands, which I don't think anybody's gonna
Speaker 1: be happy with. But actually, honestly, if somebody else booked
Speaker 1: this match and I had to come up with a finish,
Speaker 1: that's what I come up with Oka, even though it's
Speaker 1: the worst I don't want to see, but like, that's
Speaker 1: the best possible finish in the scenario. Your other finish
Speaker 1: is Eddie Kingston beats Ocada in Ocada's first singles match.
Speaker 1: I would not do this. I think that's ridiculous. And
Speaker 1: then the third possibility is that Okada beats Eddie and
Speaker 1: wins one of the belts, which would mean that you
Speaker 1: did a Continental Classic tournament, which was a great tournament,
Speaker 1: and the whole point of that tournament was to unify
Speaker 1: these three belts into a Continental Crown. And after going
Speaker 1: through this great tournament, unifying the titles and creating a
Speaker 1: continental crown. Three months later, you're going to split it up?
Speaker 1: Why would you do this?
Speaker 6: Is that what the tournament was for? Brian?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Really there was no half Eddie Kingston gold Watch Royal.
Speaker 1: Well, of course it was then, but it was to
Speaker 1: create a continental browns.
Speaker 6: In can't rustle him next year's g one, So we
Speaker 6: created a little g one we can do every year.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's all. That's all backstage reasons. As a fan.
Speaker 1: The reason for that tournament was to create a three
Speaker 1: belt continental crown, and after investing in the tournament, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna go split it up three months later. Look,
Speaker 1: I forgot when that happened to the All Japan Triple Crown.
Speaker 1: Split him up three months later?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, what is gonna do walking around? You
Speaker 6: think he's gonna be walking around with the NJPW Strong
Speaker 6: title over his shoulder? Not a chance in hell?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 6: Who cares?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 6: Because cares? You're talking about from Okay, take the backstage
Speaker 6: out of it. That you're getting paid to do a job,
Speaker 6: and if they pay you enough, I'd walk around with
Speaker 6: the Strong title too. But we're talking about on TV.
Speaker 6: This guy just came over IWGP World Heavyweight CHAMBI the
Speaker 6: guy that everybody wanted to be for the last ten years,
Speaker 6: and now he's going to revert to being I mean,
Speaker 6: why doesn't he just be.
Speaker 1: He'sting to being a strong champion. He's becoming a triple
Speaker 1: crown champion with three unified belts.
Speaker 6: But what belt?
Speaker 1: Now we have another belt because they're splitting it off
Speaker 1: from the cunt. How many belts do we need.
Speaker 6: But we have that belt. Here's the thing. The R
Speaker 6: O H title should not be on TV on aw TV,
Speaker 6: and they need a champion. Okay, put it back there.
Speaker 6: I don't think any strong title should exist at all,
Speaker 6: but they continue to push him because I guess for
Speaker 6: touring in the US and the UK, they want to
Speaker 6: have those titles. Okay, fine, let it jettison back to
Speaker 6: where it was. Do I think you need a continental title? No? Would.
Speaker 6: I'd like to see that title at some point, maybe
Speaker 6: you know, merge with the international title. I think that
Speaker 6: would be great. There are absolutely too many titles I.
Speaker 1: See, and they're about to be another one. But we're
Speaker 1: about to have another one.
Speaker 6: But Eddie Kingston has defended the continental crown anyway, so
Speaker 6: who cares if the ROH title and the NW Japan
Speaker 6: Strong title go away from AW. I don't think that
Speaker 6: this is an issue, although it is interesting.
Speaker 1: Book, well, nothing is an issue. But I don't know
Speaker 1: why they bother doing this tournament if they're just gonna
Speaker 1: just get all the belts out. Three belts, now, three
Speaker 1: more belts, all right, Well, someone's gonna win the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor title next and now will have another belt.
Speaker 6: But that's but they need a Ring of Honor champion
Speaker 6: on TV though, don't they. I mean, Bennett and Tavid
Speaker 6: are walking around with the ROH titles and the six
Speaker 6: man tag team titles have been on AW television for
Speaker 6: how long? For what reason? I mean to me, it
Speaker 6: is they have a superfluous amount of belts on TV.
Speaker 6: The ROH titles would be fine in the realm of
Speaker 6: ROH and that's it. Same thing with the new Japan
Speaker 6: Strong titles period. Now take this continental crown and merge
Speaker 6: it with the international title and be done with it.
Speaker 1: So but then we're gonna defend the belts from one
Speaker 1: at a time again.
Speaker 6: Afterwards, No v R child and the Strong title.
Speaker 1: I guess apparently those are gonna go to two other
Speaker 1: people at some point and then we'll just have eight belts.
Speaker 1: Eight singles belts in AW, I think is what the
Speaker 1: number would be, right, eight because we're fine now, OBTUSI no, not,
Speaker 1: We've got a real title, an international title, a continental crown.
Speaker 1: Now we'll have a continental crown and we'll have a
Speaker 1: dual crown, and then we'll have the other continental title
Speaker 1: and we have so we have six right now, after Wednesday,
Speaker 1: we will have six singles belts floating around in AW.
Speaker 6: Six yes, six, so close the universe when it comes
Speaker 6: to Ring of Honor, I guess with Tavin and Bennett
Speaker 6: they can go back and forth because I would want
Speaker 6: them to work with my young teams like the Infantry
Speaker 6: and guys like that. But the reality is we should
Speaker 6: never see those belts in AW and until it comes
Speaker 6: time for Forbidden Door, we should never see the strong titles.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 1: But here's the problem, Like, what your arg doing is
Speaker 1: what they should do. What I'm arguing is what they
Speaker 1: are going to do. But what they're going to do,
Speaker 1: what I'm arguing is what they're going to do. We
Speaker 1: don't need five singles six singles titles. As of Wednesday,
Speaker 1: we do not.
Speaker 6: Know six what do we need an FTW title for? What?
Speaker 6: Do we need a TNT title for? What do we
Speaker 6: need international title for? Like, take all of these belts
Speaker 6: and merge them together. Maybe that could be next year's
Speaker 6: Continental Classic and you can call it the Quad title.
Speaker 1: This person's saying what they might do, So what what
Speaker 1: are you saying they're gonna do? Like they're gonna do
Speaker 1: a draw. His first singles match on TV is just
Speaker 1: gonna be a draw. That's what they're gonna do. Okay,
Speaker 1: whatever do we Hey, I'll wait till next week.
Speaker 6: Do we have brackets for the Tag Team Tournament? By
Speaker 6: the way, Well.
Speaker 1: This is a mystery because uh well you know we
Speaker 1: go for sure we're gonna get the brackets on rampage. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I could have sworn they said they were gonna
Speaker 1: have a bracketology tonight. Wouldn't bracketology be giving you the brackets?
Speaker 1: What else you're gonna do on bracketology? Then give the brackets?
Speaker 1: Isn't that not tonight?
Speaker 6: It's kind of ridiculous, though, you know, you want people
Speaker 6: to like fill it out, You want it to become
Speaker 6: a social media thing, like what happens in like the
Speaker 6: NCAA tournament. That's what this whole thing is about. March madness, right, Like,
Speaker 6: usually you give people more than twenty four hours from
Speaker 6: the time the tournament begins to actually, you know, have
Speaker 6: some fun with this thing and see who they think
Speaker 6: is going to win.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see, bracketology is what they're doing on rampage.
Speaker 1: They're calling it bracketology. Yeah, so they get the barket
Speaker 1: thing on collision. Yeah, the tournament starts on collision. They
Speaker 1: announced that last week. We will have the brackets on
Speaker 1: rampage tomorrow. Way more news and we'll get back to
Speaker 1: aw City of Minneapolis submitted its bid for next year's WrestleMania.
Speaker 6: They want this the Pro Wrestling Torches bid. A Keller bid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, they reported Wednesday, submitted its pitch to hold
Speaker 1: Mania forty one at us Bank Stadium. The Star Tribune
Speaker 1: said the process was quote very competitive. We are hopeful.
Speaker 1: I hope we get it, said Wendy Blackshaw, the president
Speaker 1: of Minnesota's Sports and Events. It would be amazing, she said.
Speaker 1: Last year, CBS Minneapolis reported the city was among the
Speaker 1: finalists for this year's or next year's event. It would
Speaker 1: be the first time Russell Manie would be held in
Speaker 1: that city, and WWE's had to confirm details for Mania
Speaker 1: forty one. So Minneapolis, Minneapolis is what's looking like next year.
Speaker 1: We shall see back in a moment. Obserr alive.
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Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Life with Brian olt
Speaker 2: For and Mike SIMPERVV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: You know I was watching WWF Wrestling Challenge from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six. Oh yeah, yeah, they got a h. I
Speaker 1: got a segment called Wrestler Rebuttal on the show, and
Speaker 1: I would like to do the the rebuttal here from
Speaker 1: the AEW mecha that we've got going on here in
Speaker 1: the uh the chat we had we had a TNA
Speaker 1: mecha threat on the board where no matter what they did,
Speaker 1: it was defended. So I want, I want the explanation
Speaker 1: for this. Okay, I'm sure someone's got a great explanation.
Speaker 1: So this this continental title match next week? Okay, they
Speaker 1: announced it is under continental rules. Okay, yes, Mike, what
Speaker 1: are continental rules?
Speaker 6: Nobody can interfere?
Speaker 1: Okay, nobody can interfere, sir. Okay, that's what they say.
Speaker 1: All right? Did I miss the rule where you're allowed
Speaker 1: to interfere in a normal match. You're not a to
Speaker 1: have interferen a normal match either. Yeah, Well, the continental
Speaker 1: rules are there's no outside interference. There's no outside interference
Speaker 1: allowed in any matches. Okay, how is this different, some Lenny,
Speaker 1: I know you must have an answer. How is how
Speaker 1: is the rule no outside interference? How is that different
Speaker 1: from no outside interference? How is that different?
Speaker 6: I know, I know, but Brian, when it comes to
Speaker 6: the aw rule book, it is a choose your own
Speaker 6: adventure depending on who is refereeing, what matches going on,
Speaker 6: who is in the ring. I mean, look at last night.
Speaker 1: For instance, hold On, would the title change hands of
Speaker 1: their They've never said that. They've never said that. They've
Speaker 1: just said no outside interference?
Speaker 6: Now, what bothers you more as a wrestler, former wrestler
Speaker 6: and as a critic of this stuff? Does that bother
Speaker 6: you more than Chris Jericho and Hook being in the
Speaker 6: ring at the same time and guys getting choked out
Speaker 6: and Aubrey's checking on the guy being choked out, and
Speaker 6: then the guy leaves the ring, and it's like, none
Speaker 6: of this would be legal, None of this is technically legal.
Speaker 6: That's going on right now.
Speaker 1: They're guaranteeing no outside interference, Well, why don't you do
Speaker 1: that for all matches? If you're not allowed to interfere,
Speaker 1: that's what the referee is for. That's why there's DQ's.
Speaker 6: Did they do that for the first match because there
Speaker 6: was no interference during the Wardlow and Sumova Joe match?
Speaker 6: Did I miss an announcement where they said there would
Speaker 6: be no outside interference in that match? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Cod Hill rules don't even allow for seconds. No one
Speaker 1: is allowed at ringside. Really, yeah, that is that, so.
Speaker 6: They might steal one of the belts.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, let's uh, let's talk about more from this show,
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of good stuff on this show.
Speaker 1: I liked it overall, except for those that kind of
Speaker 1: all cli thing. So we had Samo Joe and Wardlow.
Speaker 1: They didn't like this match very much. I thought this
Speaker 1: was a good matchmo Joe's a total babyface. Wardlow is
Speaker 1: now starting to do a more longer matches, which is
Speaker 1: what he needs to be doing. His finish was so
Speaker 1: great because Joe always does the choke, but he's like
Speaker 1: a big dude. Well, Hook always does the red rum
Speaker 1: and he's a small dude. So whenever Hook goes for
Speaker 1: the red rum, he leaps on somebody's back and he
Speaker 1: applies the hold. Well, Wardlow's a big dude, and so
Speaker 1: Wardlow goes for a power bomb, but Joe avoids it
Speaker 1: and Samoa Joe leaped onto Wardlow's back and put on
Speaker 1: the choke and Wardlow went out. That finish was awesome,
Speaker 1: beat him clean in the middle of the ring and
Speaker 1: uh and then they had to pull apart with Swarm
Speaker 1: and Samoa Joe. We have gone from a match where
Speaker 1: both of these two were going to be heels, where
Speaker 1: now Swerve his turn babyface and Joe is never like turned,
Speaker 1: but he's a total babyface. He was a total babyface
Speaker 1: in this match. We now have a babyface babyface main
Speaker 1: event for the title coming up at the pay per view.
Speaker 6: Now even more important than that, because those guys are
Speaker 6: gonna be fine. Now what with Wardlow. It's very important
Speaker 6: if you want this guy to be something, and they do.
Speaker 6: That's why he went into length of time that he
Speaker 6: did with Samoa Joe. You know, was it a perfect match?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: But my god, how how often is he wrestling let
Speaker 6: alone in there with somebody at Joe's level? So hopefully
Speaker 6: they have a good plan for him that doesn't just
Speaker 6: consist of standing there next to Adam Cole as he
Speaker 6: sits in a wheelchair cutting promos.
Speaker 1: Then we had Samoa Joe or then we had the
Speaker 1: Elite interview with the Nick Jackson's my favorite character on
Speaker 1: this show. His his uh his angry Marvez asks. He says,
Speaker 1: uh Okada, you know why did you affiliate with the Elite?
Speaker 1: And Nick chumpson and he says, have some respect. Call
Speaker 1: him by his full ass name, the rain Maker, kazus
Speaker 1: Ko Kada I died. And then Matt says, we helped
Speaker 1: this guy. Lows of the lows we helped each other
Speaker 1: out I could give you. He says fourteen million other
Speaker 1: reasons that he joined us because Tokyo Sports did an
Speaker 1: article which claimed that aw Hit paid Okada fourteen million dollars.
Speaker 6: I love that story, Doctor.
Speaker 1: Evil, write that story. It's ridiculous. Anyway, he says, Uh,
Speaker 1: so God is doing this promo. He goes, We're coming
Speaker 1: for you, pent Up Hawk and Eddie anyway, he says,
Speaker 1: which made me laugh. Anyway, Happy say happy birthday to
Speaker 1: Matthew Man's birthday yesterday. So Alex says happy birthday and
Speaker 1: then Okatta says, no sing it, and Alex has to
Speaker 1: sing happy Birthday. This segment was the greatest.
Speaker 6: Loved it then we had done since the old Wrestling
Speaker 6: Observer site.
Speaker 1: They had the sixth Man we talked about, we had
Speaker 1: the will Osprey promo. God this guy, you know, I
Speaker 1: said last night, as did Dave. I cannot believe wwe
Speaker 1: missed on this guy and everybody had eighty five million
Speaker 1: reasons about how there was no way WWE could give
Speaker 1: him the schedule allow it. I'm like, dude, yes they could,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. Don't act like I love how when
Speaker 1: we're making certain arguments. You know, some of the arguments
Speaker 1: WW is like this global you know, phenomenon with unlimited
Speaker 1: cash and they can do whatever. And then sometimes the
Speaker 1: argument is, oh, they just couldn't afford that. Trust me,
Speaker 1: they could pay him more than AW if they wanted.
Speaker 1: They could give him the same schedule if they wanted,
Speaker 1: and they could allow him to live in England if
Speaker 1: they wanted. They didn't want to, but they could have.
Speaker 1: Let's not pretend this is an impossibility. It's ridiculous and
Speaker 1: they should feel stupid for not getting him. If I
Speaker 1: were WWE, I would feel stupid for not getting him.
Speaker 1: But I'm not WWE. Thus I don't feel stupid.
Speaker 6: I think they're okay, I think they're.
Speaker 1: They are fine, But god, this guy is like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know he's a great worker, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if this guy can cut a promo. Oh not sure
Speaker 1: about his charisma?
Speaker 6: Well, look his promo look. To be honest, you could
Speaker 6: question his promo ability because I can't. It's like, look, yeah,
Speaker 6: you can't now, but look at his promos how they've
Speaker 6: been for the most part, and guys coming over where
Speaker 6: you actually have to drop some of the obscenities and
Speaker 6: things like that. Like that's the only thing we really
Speaker 6: didn't know about him. Would he be able to cut
Speaker 6: a promo translating to the American audience? Certainly doesn't look
Speaker 6: like there's an issue with that. What's soever, I don't
Speaker 6: think charisma or physical ability was ever in doubt when
Speaker 6: it came to will Ospray. I don't bet. Maybe I
Speaker 6: guess it was for them, but certainly it didn't seem
Speaker 6: like for anybody else.
Speaker 1: If they put the rocket on this guy, he would
Speaker 1: be the biggest star in this company, by miles, miles
Speaker 1: and miles. His promo was incredible. He's got charisma out
Speaker 1: the ears. The place goes absolutely haywire for this guy.
Speaker 1: His work is at another level. It's just like, God,
Speaker 1: what a dude? What sign?
Speaker 6: Huh?
Speaker 1: Don't get me started, because then I'll be stuck on
Speaker 1: that one for a long time.
Speaker 6: What's a better chance?
Speaker 1: Brov or ceo, cheeky slag, don't get me started on
Speaker 1: that one either. Darby Allen and Jay White, Harby is
Speaker 1: out of his mind, out of his mind. They had
Speaker 1: a good match. Darby killed himself and then Jay White
Speaker 1: pinned him with a sling blade and then this was
Speaker 1: the other thing on the show that was just like
Speaker 1: all right, So they go to beat him up and
Speaker 1: out comes the rest of the Bang Bang Scissor Gang
Speaker 1: and they tell Jay not to do it, and they
Speaker 1: start to help Darby to the back, and Jay then
Speaker 1: just takes a chair and beams mister ass and like
Speaker 1: it's done. It's like, so I sat around four months
Speaker 1: as you guys put together Bang Bang Scissor Gang, did nothing,
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing, nothing, And this was the end of it.
Speaker 1: They just turned on Billy Gunn and we are right
Speaker 1: back where we started. We just have lost like four
Speaker 1: months of everybody's careers. That's what happened here.
Speaker 6: Well, lost four months, but gained two sets of six
Speaker 6: man tag team titles.
Speaker 1: Wow. Cool, all right.
Speaker 6: I think we got a better use for Jay White
Speaker 6: here now that we got Osprey.
Speaker 1: And you don't say we have a better house than
Speaker 1: when he was doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6: Now would be the time, folks, That would be the time.
Speaker 1: And we had Jericho and Hook beating the Mogul embassy
Speaker 1: and then they did a promo later which was really weird. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jericho says, you know you are a future champion, but
Speaker 1: I need to know what it's like to stand across
Speaker 1: the ring from you, and so I'm challenging you to
Speaker 1: a match next week in Canada. They're doing one on
Speaker 1: one next week in Canada. But like we're supposed to
Speaker 1: get the brackets for this tournament.
Speaker 6: Friday dain't in it.
Speaker 1: They have to be in it. Why why would they
Speaker 1: be put together and having tag match wins and then
Speaker 1: not be in the tag tournament. I'll bet you, I'll
Speaker 1: bet you, Mike, fifty bucks if you want to take
Speaker 1: the bet that they're in this tournament.
Speaker 6: You want to take the bet, all right?
Speaker 1: Fifty bucks? All right, all right?
Speaker 6: Because here's why I think maybe we see look for
Speaker 6: Hook's sake, Hook should choke out Chris Jericho. You can
Speaker 6: do some sort of weird thing that led to the
Speaker 6: finish that allowed Hook to get that choke. But I
Speaker 6: think if you're gonna do some we talked about this
Speaker 6: with Brian Danielson, that would be a big thing. Jericho
Speaker 6: not only getting choked out by Hook getting choked out
Speaker 6: by Taz Hasan in Canada. That actually is it would
Speaker 6: be really something in a feather in hook's cap. Plus,
Speaker 6: then if you're going to keep this goofy FTW title
Speaker 6: around again, maybe you can do more with it that way.
Speaker 6: To me, I don't they are not needed in this
Speaker 6: tag tournament. I mean, let's be honest, and if they
Speaker 6: are in the tag tournament, to me, it's still screams
Speaker 6: unless they're gonna win it. That it's going to lead
Speaker 6: to an angle with somebody or with themselves later on
Speaker 6: just doesn't make any sense when you have so many teams.
Speaker 1: Then we had Kylo Riley promo which man, I saw
Speaker 1: this and I don't trust this bloke one bit, not
Speaker 1: one bit. He's turning heel on Saturday, that's my prediction.
Speaker 1: And then the main event was Rijo and Willow Nightingale.
Speaker 1: This is the best AWD women's match in a while,
Speaker 1: had the best heat of any able D women's manchi
Speaker 1: in a while. This is awesome chance. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the key to this match is, this is a mind
Speaker 1: blowing revelation here. ReHO always gets ober and Willow always
Speaker 1: gets ob so if you put them together, it gets over.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 1: So anyway, at a very good main event, Willow pinner
Speaker 1: with the Doctor Baum and then the lights went out.
Speaker 1: They come back on and Julia is steering down Willow,
Speaker 1: but then sky Blue jumps her. Fans start chanting CEO
Speaker 1: and so Mercedes the music hits, run down to the ring,
Speaker 1: quick brawl, Mercedes hits the her. I don't like her
Speaker 1: new finish either. Have I mentioned in that hits her
Speaker 1: new finish on Julia, which thankfully this time Julia took
Speaker 1: it great. They did that. It was it was the
Speaker 1: Kyrie match at the Tokyo Dome. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: was a disaster. But then Willow raised Mercedes hand left
Speaker 1: the ring so Mercedes could dance showing off the air
Speaker 1: and as a good show. And I hope they keep
Speaker 1: this momentum going, which they should next Wednesday. Next Wednesday
Speaker 1: should be easy Toronto. They've already got like five thousand
Speaker 1: tickets out or something. I'd have to look after the break,
Speaker 1: but hopefully they can keep it up back in a moment.
Speaker 1: Observer Live.
Speaker 2: You are listening to wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Oh, hi, I guess we're back.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I don't know for sure. The uh there's
Speaker 1: there's numbers floating around on the chat here as to
Speaker 1: what Dynamite did last night, but I haven't got that confirmed,
Speaker 1: so we shall wait. But I will say that if
Speaker 1: you're on the chat and you've seen those numbers, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty good number, pretty good number. I know some
Speaker 1: people were expecting it to be some gigantic one million,
Speaker 1: blah blah, but uh, I was I was not expecting that.
Speaker 1: I think I think that number, if that's the accurate number,
Speaker 1: I think that'd be good. But we'll have more on
Speaker 1: that later on today. Just go to wrestling Observe dot com.
Speaker 1: It'll be on the front page wrestle Nomics wherever so
Speaker 1: you can you can get the update there And in
Speaker 1: an hour I will be back here with Landstorm. He
Speaker 1: watched the show, wants to talk about it and everything
Speaker 1: else going on in wrestling. So that's coming up on
Speaker 1: a special Thursday edition of the show at two Pacific
Speaker 1: five Eastern, and then an hour and a half of
Speaker 1: aw Dynamite and NXT with Brian and Vinnie show tonight.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about from those two shows.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and.
Speaker 6: For the Twitch people, I see that it is scheduled
Speaker 6: that Brian Rose is going to be doing a little
Speaker 6: F four W gaming with Final Fantasy six coming up
Speaker 6: at ten pm Eastern time tonight.
Speaker 1: Ten Eastern tonight. Check out Brian Rose playing a video game.
Speaker 1: I like that, Brian Rose. He's a fine chap, is
Speaker 1: what he is.
Speaker 6: Not a bloke.
Speaker 1: It's fine bloke too, I guess. But anyway, that's coming
Speaker 1: up tonight, and lots of other stuff to talk about,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna wrap it up for today. Thanks everbody
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