1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, This is Ashlyn Harris and welcome to Wide Open. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: I had such a great time connecting and talking to 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Nicki and Brie Garcia, formerly known as the Bellatwins. These 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: are two really, really red rad women, and they show 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: up fully and they represent themselves over and over and 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: over again in such a real and authentic way, and 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: they're so grounded. They're great moms, they're great people. I 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: always get geeked out because I grew up watching wrestling, 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: and just to see two badass women paving the way 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: and trailblazing for just strength and power and showing what's 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: possible in the ring was something I've always gravitated towards. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm envy because I wanted to be a 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: professional wrestler and I ended up being a professional soccer player. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: So I get to live my life through them. 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: I grew up in Florida, so everything in Florida is wrestling, 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: and I had an older brother and my dad and 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: my other watched it religiously, and I literally grew up 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: with the Undertaker and hul Cogan and all of these legends. 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: Stone called Steve Austin, and. 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: I just remember me and my brother just always pretending 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: we're professional wrestlers. And what I loved so much about 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Niki and Bree is I didn't get the opportunity to 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: see many women, and I think what's so freaking cool 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: is they were the trailblazers. Like they showed how like 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: they gave women permission to be beautiful and blunt and 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: a badass. And I just wish I had that as 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: a kid, Like I've always wanted to be a wrestler, 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: and you know, during that time, it was like wrestling 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Immortal Kombat, and I like kind of sat in the 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: middle of it. So it was it's such nostalgia. Yeah, 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: it's nostalgia for my youth. If I had, oh my gosh, 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: my wrestling name. Oh god, my first soccer team was 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: called the Lightning, So there would be something, you know, yeah, 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: there would be something in that type of world with Lightning. 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Not to mention I am obsessed with the you know, 36 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: I grew up watching Gladiators, Hello, So there would be 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, there would be you know, Malibu and China 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: and Lightning. You know, that would probably you know, she 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: would be something along that world that would be my 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: name with Briton Nikki, we really dive into who they are, 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: not just what they do, and how they continued to 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: reinvent themselves over and over and over. Their entrepreneurs, their moms. 43 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: They have insane creativity, and they're incredibly intelligent business women. 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: They've started a wine company, they've had, you know, all 45 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: these different types of genres that they've tapped into over 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: the years, and I think that's really setting the bar 47 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: for a lot of women who have come up in 48 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the industry, whether it's entertainment or sports, that your career 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: doesn't die when you're you know, when you stop playing 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: or stop wrestling or stop acting. There's so much more 51 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: to what we do, you know, than how we show 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: up for our work. And I think they're really a 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: testament to that. They've reinvented themselves over and over. Yes, reinvention, reinvention, reinvention, 54 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: and they're showing like. 55 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Their podcast is incredible. They they're everywhere. 56 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: These women are absolutely everywhere, and they've really transcended their 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: sport and their entertainment piece and wrestling, and I think 58 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: I love that about them and I'm trying to do 59 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. So it's a great it's a great 60 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: reminder that we're so much more than what we do. 61 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: All right, everyone, let's get into the show. Here's Nicki 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and Brie Garcia. 63 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Wide Open. 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm Ashland Harris, and today I get to sit down 65 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: with two women who need little introduction, Nicki and Brie Garcia. 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: You probably know them as the Belatwins from their legendary 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: run in the WWE, but their story goes way beyond 68 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: the ring. They've become entrepreneurs, podcasters, winemakers, mothers, cultural forces 69 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: who continue to redefine what it looks like to build 70 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: a career and a life on their own terms. I've 71 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: had the chance to meet with them a few times 72 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: in different events, and every time what stood out to 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: me is how grounded, real and down to earth they are, which, 74 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: when you think about the wild ride they've been on, 75 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Today we're going to talk about the. 77 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Transitions they've made, the risks they've taken, and the balance 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: of being both business women, moms and still chasing their passions. 79 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, ladies so excited? Yes, Well, if 80 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: you didn't know, it's Libra season and your girl is 81 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: actually turning forty next week. 82 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: Show Way Happy, My Happy, birthday season, honestly, and when 83 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: welcome to the club. 84 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: That's soays I heard, it's better. Yeah, I heard it's better. 85 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: On the other side, tell me everything. What do I 86 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: have to look forward to? 87 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: Okay, So one thing I noticed when I got into 88 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: my forties, I didn't but I feel like you're kind 89 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: of already like this. 90 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: But I just didn't care at all. 91 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: It was like I was just free of like caring 92 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: about nothing, and so it was like, nof's given, I 93 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 4: say what I want, nothing bugs me, and so I 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: don't know that's what my forties have done for me. 95 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 5: Yeah. 96 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: Well, and I also feel like it's been we've all 97 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: talked about this midlife crisis, and when I've realized being 98 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: in my forties, I'm like, no, it's not a midlife crisis. 99 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: You just get to a point in your life when 100 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: you get into your forties and you go, I'm going 101 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: to do this thing I want. I don't care about 102 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: what people say, like Bresa's So when people were like 103 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: buying ferraris or like divorcing and wanting to like just 104 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: be with other people, it was because we realized we 105 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: have half our life left. 106 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: And do what we want. They were gonna be birthday. 107 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: That's our terms now, Yes, I love Yeah, it's sus 108 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do for your birthday? I 109 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: don't know. Sophia has some tricks up or sleeve, and like, 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: if you know anything about me, I hate surprises. I 111 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: hate feeling like I have to entertain or be the 112 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: center of attention. So kind of my worst nightmare. I'm like, 113 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: can we just go to like Majorca? 114 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't know alone? 115 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really love a sexy vak, but it seems 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. 117 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: So County can't big. 118 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: You can't always get what you want. 119 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: Now, But you and I, you and I did a 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: solo like como trip like. 121 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: Oh that was actually magical for forty. 122 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: Three, so we didn't I could do that. 123 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 5: It was incredible. 124 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: So I do want to peel back the layers a 125 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: little bit because I like, how fucking cool is it 126 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: that you two are sisters and twins and like you've 127 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: had like a homie and a sidekick your whole life 128 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: and you still like each other. 129 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's why, like how how like how did you 130 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 6: do it? 131 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: And I not like because that's such a longloaded question, 132 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: but did you always knew did you always know your 133 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: star power as a young kid. 134 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: Well, you know what's interesting is Nicky and I. I mean, 135 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: I will say we've been blessed. We were born with 136 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: the best friend. We never had to experience the first 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: day of school alone. Even on like when we were 138 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: on the soccer team, it was like, you know, people 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: knew like if you take out, Breed will run up 140 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: the field and then take you out. Like so I 141 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: did always have this sidekick bodyguard. But I think the 142 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: one thing that Nicky and I like at a very 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: young age, we always had each other's back, like we're 144 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: never because some twins can get in competition with each 145 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: other and hate each other. 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: It's wild. We've met twins that hate each other. 147 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: But and I we instantly were like, Okay, my weaknesses 148 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: are Nicky's strengths and her weaknesses are my strengths. And 149 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: we were just each other's number one cheerleader. Like I 150 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: felt like you and I always pushed each other, rooted 151 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: each other on. 152 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: Totally and I what was neat too. And I've realized 153 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: this specialvity over the years. But growing up, Breen and 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: I really drew people in where they felt like they 155 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: can open up and like be in this safe place. 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's because you know, growing up, 157 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: when you have an identical twin, you just have someone 158 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: that you can say anything too, isn't going to judge you. 159 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 3: You it's this judgment free zone. They'll hit you with 160 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: the truth and all that like happened at such a 161 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: young age. But I felt like Breen, I drew in 162 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: so many different style of people in that way. What 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: do you say, Brien, it's kind of over the years happened. 164 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: It just made us different and stand out in that way. 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: And we all superpower. Yeah, and we were entertainers like 166 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: her and I. 167 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: We we loved oh yeah. 168 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: We would dress up as the Spice Girls and my 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 4: parents would like throw these boxing parties and we were like, okay, intermission, 170 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: we want to perform for everyone, and my parents are 171 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 4: like all right, and so we would like lipsing to 172 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 4: all them like the Spice Girls, and we'd be all 173 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: dressed up. 174 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 5: But we're performers at a young age. 175 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: So we're athletes, but we're also performers, which is why 176 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: WW was perfect. 177 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, I have to share this story 178 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: because it's so good and I don't know if I've 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: ever shared this anywhere ever. So it's funny that you 180 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: both choose. You chose wrestling, and I mean, I'm from Florida, 181 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: like it was a way of life. Oh like yeah, 182 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, hello, that's all we watched every Halloween. I 183 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: was the Undertaker or I was like Hogan huol Cogan, 184 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Oh dang stone Cold, what is it? Steve Austin, I mean, 185 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: you name it, and then mortal Combat. So we would 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: always put them together, right like King of the Mountain, 187 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: King of the Hill. But when we couldn't be outside, 188 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: that was like what we played. 189 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: Like if you could stay on the bed and you could. 190 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Throw all your cirians and your cousin's off and your 191 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: friends like you were, you were winning the game. 192 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 193 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: And I remember he was my teammate at the time, 194 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: Craig mcletty. I had him and he like was bullying 195 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: me a little bit and like being an asshole, and 196 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: he was like thick, so like I had his shoulders 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: at the This was a really fuck around and find 198 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: out moment for him, and I was. 199 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: It was on his bed and. 200 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: I was fucking throwing everyone off, and I was like 201 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: getting a jungle and literally threw him off and flipped 202 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: him off of the bed and he landed on a 203 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: turtle cage, sitting down. Glass everywhere, it like in him. 204 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Nine to one one had. 205 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: To be called. Blood was everywhere. 206 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: So pretty much what I'm saying is. 207 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: You should have been a wrestler, should have been arrestling. 208 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 5: Hey, it's never too late. 209 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean I still am in my thirties, you know 210 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: what exactly Hey, well, and this is what I love 211 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: is because you guys were literally doing the Royal Rumble 212 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: and you just in order to win sometimes you gotta 213 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: do some ugly moves to get people off. 214 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: And that's just not. 215 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: You know what, I am a competitor. 216 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and really was a rich moment for my buddy 217 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: Craig that probably will never live that day down. 218 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 5: Oh no, you too stoned him. He got his rest 219 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 5: in peace. Yeah. Yeah. 220 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: So as we were all performers at that a you know, 221 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: at a young age, clearly, why did we pick wrestling, 222 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Because what I've heard is we were quite the soccer player, 223 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, both of you little I. 224 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know, yeah, it was weird because soccer, yeah, 225 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: we I mean, soccer was our lives and we were 226 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 4: on club and our team was doing incredible and Nicky 227 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: and I both I mean getting soccer scholarships. And it 228 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 4: was weird because our senior year was a really defining 229 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: moment for us. I unfortunately, my senior year, my boyfriend 230 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: passed away. He was killed by Yeah, he was killed 231 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: by a drink driver June. It was my senior year January, 232 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: and I kind of and now that was a big 233 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: turning point in my life. And I think, you know, 234 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: I was eighteen. You feel like you have the whole 235 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: world figured out at that time, and when something like 236 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: that happens, I just, I mean I gave up everything, 237 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: Like that was it for me, like kind of in 238 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: my eyes, you know, life was done. I wanted to 239 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: figure out something new, and so my my journey shifted. 240 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: And then Nikki unfortunately broke her leg in half. 241 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah literally right and in a high school game, which 242 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: you know, those not that they don't mean anything, but 243 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: for any of us who were club players and going 244 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: to college, like you had a pause it to like 245 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: be on your high school team, like at least in Arizona, 246 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: you weren't a lot of play club. 247 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: You had to take those few. 248 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: Months off and it was in like one of our 249 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: last games and just snapped my tibia right in half. 250 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: And my god, yeah, and doing that your senior year, 251 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: a lot of things changed for me. And when I 252 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: look back, I could have fought through, but I wasn't 253 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: in the right mental place at that time. We had 254 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: a lot going on in our home, which was a 255 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: very broken home. Brie was going through everything with Bear. 256 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: That happened a week later, so it was like a 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: boom boom, Oh my god, and it just like Brie said, 258 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: there was a turning point. And when we both graduated 259 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: high school, we both just said at Arizona and we 260 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: drove to San Diego, where we were born and where 261 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: we had family, to start a new life. And then 262 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: soccer came back around for me, which it needed to 263 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: because I was just in a place where I had 264 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: so much trauma done beyond the soccer field, like just 265 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: stuff in my personal life that I needed that back 266 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: in my life to shape me. And that was kind 267 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: of crazy. Is then it brought in wrestling, yes, but yeah, 268 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: it was weird how we both had that turning point 269 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: senior year within a week of each other. 270 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: That mean, it was like wow, yeah, I mean it 271 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: really changed everything. And I think what you know, when 272 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: Nicky and I when we graduated high school, were like, 273 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: let's get the fuck out of here. You know, we 274 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: did need a job and we were like, well, where 275 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: can we make some good money? We're eighteen, and that's 276 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: when Hooters came around, So we became Hooter girls. 277 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Yet you love a good chicken, I mean. 278 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: Especially when you're from Florida. It's like, I gonic, Yeah. 279 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: Totally iconic. And we had twin peaks. 280 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 281 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that. 282 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: You know, we had it all in Florida. 283 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: You guys did you did? 284 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: No shame, no shame there. 285 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: I was like, dad, let's go. 286 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. But so what was cool is Nicky and I 287 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: being Hooter girls. You know, we always showed the wrestling 288 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: pay per views and we we watched wrestling. 289 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 5: We just weren't big fans because. 290 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: My brother was obsessed, but you know, we I saw 291 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,359 Speaker 4: this thing that was on a search for female wrestlers. 292 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: It was called Diva Search and for anyone who ever 293 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: watched Glow. 294 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 295 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 5: It was kind of like that. 296 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: Where you're like, oh, okay, like yeah, I could be 297 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: a female wrestler, and you're thinking of your character and 298 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: you know her and I being athletic, where like we 299 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: just had the mentality that we can do anything. And 300 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: so that's how we stumbled across wrestling. Was wow, And 301 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: this is before social media. So this is straight up 302 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: a flyer like figuring. 303 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Out pulled it at Hooters. 304 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't at Hooters. It was like we were 305 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 5: at this time. I got to say, movie. I know, 306 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: a movie. But that's what I like. 307 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: When I look at kids nowadays, I feel like they 308 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: would even know how to function without social media and 309 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: all those things. I'm like, we all made it before 310 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: social media. Oh, thank you you can, thank God. 311 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: Thank God, thank God, Oh my god. 312 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: So grateful for that. But yeah, yeah we really did crazy, 313 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,479 Speaker 3: we really died. I mean we be just so lucky. 314 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I college days, honey, in high school, I was. 315 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: Like, whoa I would have Oh man, I'm very grateful. 316 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, what was not on record. 317 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: So we just are like, we're going for this. We 318 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: make a group decision. Is this how you both operate 319 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: all the time. It's like you're both all in. I 320 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: assume you've never played on different teams who were always 321 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: on the same team always. 322 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 5: Except I do have to say breathe though. 323 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: When we got into San Diego and like a year later, 324 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: I started to play soccer again and she didn't. So 325 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: I was playing college ball. She would show up to 326 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: my games and like the littlest outfits making signs for me, 327 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: like with like some of our other Hooter friends and 328 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: they're all watching me play soccer. And then she came 329 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 3: to me about the devissearch and I was like, I 330 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm like, they really wrestle, like it's not 331 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: like we have to wear bikinis or anything, and she's 332 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: like no, So that was like a different well and 333 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: you were. 334 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 5: Thinking about playing pro soccer in Italy. 335 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the women's league at that time had folded here. Yes, 336 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: I remember being talks with the Arizona heat Wave and 337 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: then when all of that went down, breaking my leg 338 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: and stuff, all that went away. 339 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: Went to San Diego and then I went and played 340 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 5: a coach who knew of me. 341 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: From Arizona was like, just come walk on, like it's 342 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: Grossmack College, like we could use your help. And so 343 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: he then was helping me find my place in Italy. 344 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: Right when she came to me about Divasearch, and I 345 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: had to make this decision do I go to Italy 346 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: and play soccer or do I. 347 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 5: Go be a wrestler? And I fell in lave when 348 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 5: we went to that audition. 349 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 7: I was like, oh, stay tuned, I'll be back in 350 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 7: just a moment. After this brief message from our sponsors, 351 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 7: do you guys like laugh. 352 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: A little bit, like how do you take it? 353 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Like you have to be so, I mean, like I'm 354 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: so into it because I was raised on it, Like 355 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? 356 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: It's hilarious, hilarious. How did you were? 357 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: You were like, well, thank god I was a spice 358 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: girl all those years. 359 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 5: In the morning room. Real well, and like really that helps. Yeah, 360 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: it definitely did well. And I think a diva search. 361 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 4: When Nikki and I showed up, we had like ponytails, 362 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: no makeup on, and we made these tank tops. Mine 363 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: said Breezy Forsheesi and her said Nicole the show and 364 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: like when we walked in, but this is the best 365 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: we were and we're wearing like kicks and stuff. When 366 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: we walked in, everyone was dressed up as like go 367 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: go dancers and we were like, oh gosh, and she 368 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: was gonna kill me and I'm like, I swear this 369 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 4: is like all about wrestling, and she was like brief. 370 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: But then when we actually go on the audition, they 371 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: like tour us apart. They're like, your boobs aren't big enough, 372 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: You're not the look like we like walked out and 373 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: we were. 374 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 5: Like what, well, no, we first kept promos on them. 375 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: We went at them like, well you want to know 376 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: what this is what you all need to change about yourself. 377 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: And that's when we walked off. They go go get 378 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: those girls, we need them. 379 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: Oh, wait, are perfect, You're but your identity was born 380 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: in that moment. 381 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: Yes, the guitar, we were definitely. 382 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: But it was funny because when we had started training, 383 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: we would ree those moments of laughing when like one 384 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: would be selling like ah like doing this stuff because 385 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: in the beginning it is uncomfortable. 386 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 5: You're like, can she just really hit me? 387 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: Like I'd rather sell a real hit than like not 388 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: a real hit, for sure. 389 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: I don't What I don't want is either one of 390 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: you hitting me. That's where I would really have to 391 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: draw the line and let alone. I saw the Ronda 392 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Rousey moment. 393 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: I mean that chick would destroy me. 394 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 5: Oh she's so crazy strong. 395 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: So being in the industry for so long and then 396 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: when I knew I had, I was doing that story 397 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: with her. I remember the first time she gave me 398 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: a slam just like everyone else. 399 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: I was like, oh that feels different. 400 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: I was like, she's it was just had this power 401 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: to it where I was like, holy shit, like she's 402 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: a beast. That is a different breed of a woman 403 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: that slam any of her judo tosses she would do. 404 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, I would never get in 405 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: an octagon against. 406 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: Her ever, No, no, thank you. 407 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: But you've both been you've both been in the spotlight 408 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: now for so long, and I'm curious, you know, how, 409 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: how would you describe yourself today outside of you know, 410 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the Bela Twins identity? 411 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: What does that look like for you? 412 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: Because you you know, I know you're back a little 413 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: dabbling back a little bit in it, but you know, 414 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: you've both been trailblazers in showing what's possible for women 415 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: in the WWE, which is a pretty male dominated sport to. 416 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: Say the least. 417 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: But like, how do you how do you show up now? 418 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 419 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I have a question. 420 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: It is and you know, I have to say I've 421 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: been blessed because having a twin, we've kept each other 422 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 4: humble our whole entire you know, time on television. So 423 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: I feel like the journey for me has been easier 424 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: for maybe people who might go in entertainment solo because we, 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: you know, Nicky and I've always had each other. But 426 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: I think the greatest thing for me my identity is 427 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: I started to really write down because Nicky and I 428 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: love journaling, but like what makes me happy and like 429 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 4: what really makes my heart beat. So I was always 430 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: like drawn to the environment and being you know, an 431 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: activist for you know, the planet and animals and really 432 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 4: what I believe, you know, the voiceless. And I started 433 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: to realize like anytime I'm in that world, I glow 434 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: and like I feel like me and so I you know, 435 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: coming out of being like known as the wrestler, I 436 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: you know, now I feel like kind of like I'm 437 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: the planet's champion, Like I'm kind of like that's my 438 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: new tag partner. And that's really where I feel like 439 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: I see myself now in that world. 440 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, because no one has really recreated themselves successfully as 441 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: much as you both, and that's like that is a 442 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: special thing to do because what I have noticed more 443 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: than anyone is when you become an athlete, you live 444 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: in that identity and you don't know what it's like 445 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: outside of it, and you get really fucking blurred vision 446 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: and you get jaded and truthfully, and I say this 447 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: with the utmost respect, like, we didn't cure cancer. 448 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: We were performers. 449 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: Our job was to perform for the people, to bring 450 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: them joy, to bring them a moment of happiness, which 451 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ is so. 452 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: Vital more than ever right now. 453 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: But I will say that like walking away from the 454 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: WWE in this Bela brand was such. 455 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: A huge move. 456 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: What gave you that courage to step into this new 457 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: era of the Garcia twins. 458 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. So, you know, it's funny because. 459 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: When we've talked about growth before the past two decades, 460 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: I've realized I've had a tremendous amount of growth and 461 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: it's uncomfortable and you get to see the results and 462 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: you put in the work and you get those results. 463 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: And the one thing that I've realized they always the 464 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: fans started to call me fearless snicky. What I realized 465 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: is over time I finally started to walk as fearless snicky. 466 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: It was more than a character, and when that time came, 467 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: it was like you make those decisions, but you stop 468 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: and you go away. I think God he put this 469 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: in my path and I could either make a stand 470 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: for myself and for women and for my worth, knowing 471 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: that tomorrow I'm going to still see the sun rise. 472 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: The career might look different, but the things that truly 473 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: matter my son, my sister, my surroundings, my family, my 474 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: faith that's going to I'll be there and as long 475 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: as I know God has me, then like, I know 476 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: things are. 477 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: Going to be okay. 478 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: And I feel like for Bree and I, we just 479 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 3: knew in that moment we had to stick to what 480 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: we believed in. And when we made that choice, I 481 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: started to be like, wait, I'm truly now living as 482 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: fearless Nicky. I'm finally fearless in my decisions beyond the ring, 483 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: and I'm finally I've recognized my worth and I know 484 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: that if something goes away, then it wasn't meant for 485 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: me now and maybe it'll come back, which it has, 486 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: because it was kind of like taking my stand of 487 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: like knowing what was right and I love that, yeah, 488 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: and standing for that and so that. 489 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually that's a great It's such a powerful answer, 490 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's so beautifully said. And I like when 491 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: I think about that, you know, when I think about 492 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: like even when I knew it was time to step away, 493 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: it's one thing knowing in, one thing doing right. You 494 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: two have done podcasting companies, wine companies, beauty companies, clothing companies. 495 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: I mean you meet reality shows like you have checked 496 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: so many boxes. My real question is when did you 497 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: When did you really realize like a wee can be 498 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: something so much bigger than just wrestling. 499 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: Ah, I love that. 500 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: I think it was honestly the reality show Total Divas, 501 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 4: you know what it was. It was like when we 502 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: filmed the pilot. I'll never forget all of us girls 503 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: being like, do you think the world's really going to 504 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 4: care about like female wrestling and let alone us female wrestlers. 505 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 5: And I think when the. 506 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: Show went like it was just a huge hit, it 507 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: was almost like whoa people care? And then you all 508 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: of a sudden realized your platform and then people are 509 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: listening and like people were getting invested, and I just 510 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: remember thinking like wow, like NICKI and I knew like 511 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 4: all sudden, like we're something more than just in the ring, 512 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: people started to care who we were outside of the ring, 513 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: and that's when we finally we knew, like, okay, we 514 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: can instead of dropping, you know, drop kicks from the 515 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: top rope, our whole lives, like we can do something 516 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: more than just that. 517 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: Right, we totally found our power and who we were 518 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: and and our worth because I feel like for so long, 519 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: and we've talked about this, it's like everyone makes you 520 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: believe like you're gonna be nothing without us. You better listen, 521 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 3: you better you know, follow the rules and do all 522 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: the things, and you start to believe that, like I 523 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: need them, I need them, And the reality show really 524 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: started to make us believe like, wait, people are interested 525 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: in us and who we are, our lives, the barriers 526 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: we've broken, our journey of you know, how tough childhood 527 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: could be, or you know, our ups and down showing 528 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: the ugly People appreciated that the bicker between sisters and 529 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: how siblings are we were very real and wrong. People 530 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: got it catch that, and I was like, see, no 531 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: more can they tell me that I'm you know, can 532 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: be replaced because my journey, my life, who I am, 533 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: I can't be replaced in this exactly people are now 534 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 3: attached to it, and now our worth is gone beyond 535 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: the ring and the turning point. 536 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: Well and I, NICKI and I are really big into affirmations, 537 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 4: and we're all told whether you're an athlete and an actor, 538 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: anyone who has a face on television, you're always told 539 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: you're replaceable. But her and I our affirmation was we 540 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 4: are not replaceable, and we always told each other that 541 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: and to this day we still feel we are not replaceable. 542 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: We are not That's it right. 543 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: You can fire me, but I'm not replacing at all, 544 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: that's for sure. I'm just meant to be somewhere else. 545 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: But knowing you're worth and running with it and not 546 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: running away from it because it's scary, and you know, 547 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: taking a chance on yourself, like betting on yourself is 548 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: the most beautiful gift you can give, sure, and I 549 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: don't think enough women do it. In between wine, beauty, 550 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: business media like y'all really have built an empire. Here 551 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: is where I'm curious, the business work life and the 552 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: family life. 553 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: How do you both keep it together? Like it's I. 554 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: You know, it didn't work out so well, but I 555 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: was married to my teammate and it was fucking hard 556 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: to do the family life and the business life together. 557 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: And it was like, Okay, we can try to stay 558 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: as buttoned as we can, but sometimes those lines are 559 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: blurry and are hard, and money creeps in, competitiveness creeps in. 560 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: How have you done this for so long and separated 561 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: the two work family life balance? 562 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 563 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is we let go of 564 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: ego a long time ago. 565 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's been a big thing for you. 566 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: So that part because for Nicki and I, there's gonna 567 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: be times Nicki's doing more than me, and then there's 568 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: gonna be times I'm gonna be doing stuff. And like, 569 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: you know, Nicki went through a hard divorce last year, 570 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 4: and I never once was like, you know, she needed 571 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: time to herself and figure herself out, and I was like, 572 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: I got everything. I'll do solo episodes on the podcast. 573 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 4: I hope they're good. I don't know, we'll see. And 574 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: even with the wine brand, I stepped in because Nicki, 575 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: you know, there was stuff and I think if I 576 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: had EGO, I would have been like counting how much 577 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 4: I was doing compared to her, But instead I wanted 578 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: to help and I think we that's why we've been 579 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 4: the greatest tag team. It's not only in the ring, 580 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: but I think outside the ring, we've known how to 581 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: show up and be there for each other. And I 582 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: feel like that's made me a better mom, a better wife. 583 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: I feel like she knows. 584 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 4: There's times I'm like, my husband still travels, and I'm 585 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: like he and I just need a weekend together, and 586 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 4: she'll get it and be like, let me take over 587 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: at the you know, tasting. So I think just her 588 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 4: and I being having good communication, it's made us better 589 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: moms and being able to balance personal and business. 590 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: And I think as well as we know each other's 591 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: strengths and weaknesses, and we know each other's personal even 592 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: though we're identical twins, we understand each other's personality traits 593 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: very well. She knows things that make me grumpy. I 594 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 3: know things that make her grumpy and so, and we've 595 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: had a work on that that didn't just happen. We 596 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: had have a life coach, we had, we had to 597 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: have people help us iron out those things. I also 598 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: working doing family life and work life. We've made sure 599 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: that we do things we're passionate about so it doesn't 600 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: feel like work and we don't carry that into the 601 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: home and then also things that our children can be involved. 602 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: So we knew moving to Napa Valley we get to 603 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: be hands on in our wine brand. But then we 604 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: get to bring the kids out for farming, for harvesting. Yeah, 605 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: my gosh, they get to learn about things. We pop 606 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: them in into the speak easy and they're right there 607 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: with us doing things that times. And so we've made 608 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: sure to do things where we can involve them. And 609 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: I still feel like there are days that I'm trying 610 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: to figure out balance because I'm a big yes person 611 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: and I have to teach myself to say no to 612 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: things or I'm just always thinking ideas or how can 613 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: we do this and can do that? So I'm still 614 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: on that journey of finding the perfect balance. But because 615 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: I love being a mom and I know that's first, 616 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: and I love all the stuff we do, whether it's 617 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: our companies wrestling. At least I'm not drowning in my 618 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: unbalanced if that makes sense. Yeah, So when things don't 619 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: feel balanced, I'm still so happy with everything, and I'm 620 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: doing that. When you're on the lack of sleep, well 621 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: you know it's like it's fine. 622 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 7: This is wide open and I'm your host Ashlyn Harris, 623 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 7: thanks for listening. 624 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 625 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: You say it often though you both are very you know, 626 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: you're mindful, you do the work, you do the affirmations, 627 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: you give yourself grace, Like all of these things are 628 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: so vital and so important. I wish I was a 629 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: lot more gentle on myself as a young professional, because 630 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: no one like that was the thing for me. Like 631 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: I was so fucking hard on myself. Like sometimes I'm like, 632 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: let yourself off the mac dude, Like it's like it's 633 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: not life or death. And you speak about motherhoods so 634 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: beautifully and it changed my perspective on so much. But 635 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, as you know, you both are unbelievable moms, 636 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Like has that changed your perspective on success and ambition? 637 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: And you talk about balance and all of these things. 638 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: Like I would have been as I would have been. 639 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: Such a good player if I could have balanced being 640 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: a mom during my whole entire career. Because my lens 641 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: completely fucking change once I started having kids. 642 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh my gosh, even with me. 643 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: I mean I walked away from the ring because I 644 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 4: thought to myself, stability for my children, and you know, 645 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: there's some women, they do a great job of bringing 646 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 4: the kids on the road and handle it all. But 647 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: I realized, I'm not meant that, Like I wasn't made 648 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: that way. I'm more of a homemaker. I'm I like 649 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: my kids to have a scheduled the way I had 650 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 4: a schedule as a child, like go to school, come home, 651 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: go outside and play. I have chickens, I garden. I 652 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: make them a part of it all. And that's just 653 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 4: the way that motherhood works for me. And I give 654 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: credit to the women who travel, but when I say travel, 655 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: they bring their kids because I still travel as a mom. 656 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 4: My husband and I it's been great. We sit down 657 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 4: and we you know, really go over our schedule. Sometimes 658 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 4: we both look at each other like, well we ever 659 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 4: see each other because they like take turns, like you know, 660 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: going out and doing our work. But I think the 661 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: most important thing for one is to figure out the 662 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: mom you want to be and the life that you 663 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: want to give your kids, because there's not a wrong answer, 664 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 4: it's just figuring out that answer and then doing it. 665 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 5: Because if you're kind of confused. 666 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: On the way you want to raise your children, I 667 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: think that's when motherhood becomes tough. Like I know exactly 668 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: how I want them to be raised, and we do 669 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: it and there's no confusion. 670 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 5: It's just like, this is what it is, you know. 671 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: It, and it has to be aligned, you know with 672 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: your partner, Oh for sure. The biggest thing, like if 673 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: you're not on the same page on how you want 674 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: to do this, oh my god's get sticky real quick. 675 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 5: Oh so sticky. And you know, I was a lot 676 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 5: like you. 677 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: It fully changed me becoming a mom, Like I just 678 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: became selfless, like I was just such a hustler and 679 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: so focused on the career. And it also changed me 680 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: though as a businesswoman, where I realized I'm going to 681 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 3: work enough to have great success, but enough to where 682 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 3: I know we'll have a good life. And I don't 683 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 3: need more than that. I just need enough to have 684 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: an incredible life. Make sure everything for him in the 685 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: future is great. But I want to take in every moment. 686 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to look back and go, oh, I 687 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: miss these big moments with him. I want to be present, 688 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 3: and that's even in my companies. I want to be present. 689 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 3: But like, being present is so big for me, and 690 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: it's funny the goals I used to have before him 691 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: even of like certain like numbers that I wanted, whether 692 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: it was our companies or myself to get to. And 693 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 3: it's crazy how much that's changed because now I'm like, 694 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: this is all we need for this or that, and 695 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: then I get all this amazing time to go get 696 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: pumpkins and carve them or whatever it might be, go to. 697 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 5: A fall festival. You realize that's like the real wealth. 698 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: And absolutely for sure that Yeah, I completely agree. And 699 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, I know we were talking about this earlier 700 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: with the landscape of the world and how we want 701 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: to raise these beautiful children and all of us have boys, yeah, 702 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: and we have I'm not going to say it lightly 703 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: a huge obligation to raise these children in this current 704 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: landscape and environment on how they choose to show up, 705 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: especially how they choose to treat women. And you two 706 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: or us three, we're powerful women who run and play 707 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: in a male dominated world in male. 708 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 6: Spaces, Like how do you raise your boys? Like how 709 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 6: how do you like what are the greatest lessons you're 710 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 6: teaching them right now? Because it is so important and 711 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 6: I think we need to make sure we're holding ourselves 712 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 6: accountable as we give these young boys the tools to navigate. 713 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: This world for sure. 714 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 4: I mean the biggest thing is compassion. I think you 715 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 4: can teach compassion, everyone's born with it, but to still 716 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: instill it and our children is a huge thing to me. 717 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 4: And also manners respect even Buddy, and I always tell 718 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: him like ladies first, because I think being a gentleman 719 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: goes a long way. 720 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 5: Now. 721 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 4: Granted, I'll open doors up for men, and I don't 722 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 4: care like I don't need to always go in first, 723 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: but it's the it's teaching like our boys to be gentlemen. 724 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: To me, yes, like it's gentleness. I want them to 725 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 4: be gentle man like. So I'm really big with Buddy 726 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: especially My son is wild. 727 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: He is all of these boys out here. 728 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. 729 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know, the gentle part, I think 730 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 4: is very important to teach our boys to be gentle. 731 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: Yes, and I always instill kindness. I tell Mateo, we 732 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: constantly are using that word kindness. I'm saying how kind 733 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: he is when he does certain things. I'm like, that 734 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 3: was so kind, or when someone does something for him. 735 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 3: I always make sure to point that out. And I'm 736 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: going to raise him where he will be very respectful 737 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: with women, like he and what is so great? 738 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 5: This was really cute. He said this a little bit ago. 739 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 3: He asked me if I could be a Lego master 740 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, baby, mommy's just not 741 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: the greatest at building legos, but that's something new and 742 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 3: your daddy do. And I bet you and daddy both 743 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: can be Lego masters. I'm like, what do you think 744 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: mommy can be? Then, and he goes, Mommy, you know 745 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: you work really hard. You're a hard worker, that's what 746 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: you are. And like my heart, I was like, oh 747 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 3: my gosh. 748 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: You know that. 749 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: And it's just what I've realized too with these boys 750 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 3: because they have badass powerful moms yes watching us, so 751 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 3: they're already going to have an appreciation for women because 752 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 3: of how we are, which is amazing. You realize they 753 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 3: watch more than us talking to them, and so it's 754 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 3: always I'm always mindful about being that leader in the 755 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: home and what he sees for sure, and how I 756 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: am with others in my interaction. But I am going 757 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: to make sure, like I always joke, and it's funny 758 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: because people on social media like go after me because 759 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: I always a'm like, yeah, I'm raising feminist gentlemen and 760 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: people get so mad with that word feminist, and I'm like, no, 761 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 3: the thing is is my son is going to respect 762 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 3: and appreciate women and their hard work and know that 763 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: he's an equal with them. He's not better because he's 764 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 3: a man, but he could be a gentleman. But he's 765 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: just going to appreciate people for what they do. That's 766 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be nothing with what they look like, 767 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 3: who they are. 768 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 5: It's just going to be how they give things exactly. 769 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: And you and Nikki, I love that you said this 770 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: because we are in the landscape of giving people permission 771 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: to be very cruel and like spiteful and hateful, and 772 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: it's I'm curious, like because I've experienced it and it penetrates, 773 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: Like you can say what you want about me as 774 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: a public like person and the way I move as 775 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: an athlete, and you can be an asshole all you want, 776 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: but you don't know me as a mom, Like you 777 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: don't know how I operate, how I am with my kids, 778 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Like that's such a sacred space. 779 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 2: How do you too protect your piece? 780 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: Because people are fucking awful, awful and awful and it's 781 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: like the amount of abuse that I see and I 782 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: read I'm like, whoa, Even if I try not to 783 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: read it, it is always there. So how are you 784 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: too protecting you know, your home and your family and 785 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: your peace. When it comes to the way you're moving 786 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: into life as public figures. 787 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 788 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 4: My husband, he and I promised each other. We're like, 789 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 4: there's so much that's out of our control, and We're like, 790 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: but what we can't control is our environment with our family. 791 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 4: And we always say we have our positive bubble, and 792 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: like we we can. We have the control of how 793 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 4: our home fills, who steps into our home, what we 794 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,479 Speaker 4: surround our kids with, and that's people, what they watch 795 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: on television, what we you know, do as a family. 796 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 4: And so I believe like really having that bubble. And 797 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 4: then when it comes to social media, I mean, I'm 798 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 4: gonna be forty two, so I'm just like guns ablazing 799 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: with the metal fist caution amazing. 800 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 5: I like can give two shits. 801 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 4: It almost makes me like giggle when people like say 802 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 4: shit about me because I'm like like whatever, it's like funny, 803 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 4: but like I've been able to really work hard on 804 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 4: like I don't get bothered by any of that. 805 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 3: And for me, like what I've realized is I had to, 806 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 3: like I post Matteo way less because I don't want 807 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 3: to give people the opportunity. And then I got into 808 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 3: a place where I really wanted to protect them, and 809 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: especially how public the divorce got. 810 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, and just so. 811 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: Many untrue things out there and oh yeah lies and 812 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 3: all that, like it made the lioness was always there, 813 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: like we're there the moment these babies come into a world, right, 814 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: But it really I grew king of the jungle, like 815 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 3: I protect my cub And then I started to realize 816 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 3: so much too, is why do I give people certain moments. 817 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 3: I did it for a decade on TV, and then 818 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 3: I'll share these moments with you, but you then a 819 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 3: second later are such a terrible human being. 820 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 5: So it really made me protect it. 821 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 3: And people will still say things like I got a 822 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 3: little triggered earlier because so because you're never with your son. 823 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: And I've had to correct people so many times, I go, 824 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 3: let's reword this sentence. I never post my son. There 825 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 3: is a difference because and my life coaches taught me, okay, 826 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: if that was triggering, why And you know today I 827 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: had to tell myself that was triggering to me because 828 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 3: I worked so hard as a mom every day that 829 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: no one sees day in and day out. 830 00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 5: They don't know the days. 831 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: And that triggered me because I'm tired and I I've 832 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: had We've had a long maybe week or whatever, and 833 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: I'm not being appreciated. You know, I don't have a 834 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: sure So I was like, Okay, that was my trigger, 835 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 3: and now I'm good and ill appreciate yourself. 836 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 5: You were such great we've been through. 837 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: You were in a robe and drove Mantoto Sea on 838 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 3: air balloon Sunday morning. You were pretty much naked, but 839 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: he got to see them land and. 840 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: You know what, I know, it's so good. 841 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: So you know you too. You've done so much and 842 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: you've you know everyone U you know, everyone knows how 843 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: fantastic you've been with your careers and you were trailblazers 844 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: to really open the doors and show what's possible for 845 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: women to do what you do and make a great 846 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: living doing it. For two women who do so much, 847 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: what's next? 848 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 2: What do we check? What do we check? 849 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you've checked almost every box. I know there's 850 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: got to be something. 851 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, why where we just talking? 852 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 853 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 4: We were just talking about something the other day. We 854 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 4: wanted to put on our vision board. 855 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 5: What was it? 856 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 3: Was it owning a winery by fifty Well, now not 857 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 3: that that's one of them. 858 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 5: There was something, there's something we wanted. 859 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, NICKI and I we've like, we've 860 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 4: always talked about a talk show because we're like, it 861 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 4: would be super hot. But then sometimes when I look 862 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 4: at the schedule and we're like, is that. 863 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: When the kids, When the kids leave the home, that's 864 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 3: when we're empty nesters. 865 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 5: We could go there too. Yeah, I'm like, that's way 866 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 5: down the road. 867 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: I know. 868 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: For me, I would love like just getting a taste 869 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 3: of being in Happy Gilmore too, And like a lot 870 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: of our storylines got cut, but I really enjoyed being 871 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 3: on set and what I liked about it is my 872 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 3: character was so different from who I am, and that's 873 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 3: what I love about wrestling too, when I get to 874 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 3: be a bad guy that I was like, I missed 875 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: that kind of fun play being a character. So I 876 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 3: would love to do more movies, but that only keep 877 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 3: me on set for like three weeks on and off. 878 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 3: I can't go do a movie for three months. I 879 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: don't know how people do that as parents And oh yep, careers. 880 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean? That's like so right? 881 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 5: Oh yes, I didn't even think. Yeah, that was why 882 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 5: herd on me. 883 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: That's why my fortieth birthday is in New York City. 884 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: The day after my birthday, she goes to Ottawa to 885 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: shoot a movie. So oh see, so no my Orca 886 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: for me. 887 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 5: Well, well, I'll go to my YORKA. 888 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: So this this surprise party, better be yet, be good? 889 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 5: Better come to you. 890 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: There better be a beautiful ocean views. Yeah where they 891 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: better bring sand in? 892 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't know it. Better feel like my orc. 893 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: I love that you both, well, thank you both for 894 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: coming on the show. And I know we we we 895 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: have so much in common. I've been so grateful for 896 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: our time that we get to spend. What I love 897 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: so much is not you know, the jobs that we've 898 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: done to give us the platforms we have. It's the 899 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 1: way we show up for women, the ship, the way 900 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: we show up to advocate for women, like we really 901 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: want to change this world and make it better. And 902 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: I find that such a beautiful gift and what a 903 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: cool opportunity to leave this place better than we found it, 904 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: and you two live it. So I've been drawn to 905 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: you since the moment. We've met, and we've got we 906 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: got to keep we got to keep fighting like hell 907 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: and keep living our truth and being as authentic as 908 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: we can. So NICKI and Bria appreciate you both being 909 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: on the show. 910 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: And until the next time. 911 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: Right kick it together and have a little sippy sippy exactly. 912 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 4: I would love you, you guys, and you come to us 913 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 4: here in Napa Valley, come to Yes, we'll get a 914 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 4: week because massages, wine Taste Dane will do it all. 915 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: You had me at massage and I know me like 916 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: I need. 917 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm that kind of girly now. 918 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I love it. 919 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 3: And anytime you need two bad asses to show up 920 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 3: for some extra voices, where we got your back. 921 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: So done done, We're here in the well. 922 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: We roll in a deep group. I love that. 923 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah you do? 924 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: All right? Well, thanks everyone for tuning in for another 925 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: episode of Wide Open with Ashlin Harris, Nikki Brie. You 926 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: are a dreamboat both of you, and I know we're 927 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: going to have many more conversations to come. But until 928 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,479 Speaker 1: next time, We'll see you next week. 929 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 5: Yesy bye. 930 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 7: Wide Open with Ashland Harris is an iHeart women's sports production. 931 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 7: You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 932 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. Our producers are Carmen Borca, Coreo, 933 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 7: Emily Maronov, and Lucy Jones. Production assistants from Malia Aguidello. 934 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 7: Our executive producers are Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder. 935 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 7: Our editors are Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder and I'm 936 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 7: Your Host Ashlyn Harris