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Speaker 2: this final day of the Olympics. All the events are done. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we are now just gonna have the closing ceremonies Today.

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Speaker 2: The United States and China tied for the most gold medals,

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Speaker 2: and of course the United States lap the field in

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Speaker 2: terms of total medals. So let's start off with little

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Speaker 2: Kapper on these Olympic Games.

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Speaker 3: Did you enjoy them? Richie?

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Speaker 2: Was this something that captivated you? How did these two

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Speaker 2: weeks go for you?

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Speaker 4: There have been years where I've been completely in rap

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Speaker 4: in the stories of the Olympics. This was not one

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Speaker 4: of those years. But I'll say this, I had more

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Speaker 4: interest in a lot of the games than I thought

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Speaker 4: I would.

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Speaker 1: I thought some of the new changes were good changes.

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Speaker 4: I thought the speed climbing, addition, makes sense as an

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Speaker 4: Olympic game. You know when you turn on the television

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Speaker 4: and you realize this is a world that's been going

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Speaker 4: on away from your consciousness. But there are people who

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Speaker 4: are so skilled that they can scale a fifty foot

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Speaker 4: five seconds. It blows your mind, like this is what

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Speaker 4: people have dedicated their life to. It kind of reminds

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Speaker 4: me of curling during the Winter Olympics. Yeah, it may

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Speaker 4: not be the most exciting event, but I catch myself

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Speaker 4: every year or every four years during the Winter Olympics

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Speaker 4: kind of captivated by that. So I think speed climbing

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Speaker 4: good change. I thought that the men's hoops, when they

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Speaker 4: decided that they wanted to win and it was only

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Speaker 4: for quarters or halves during some of these games they

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Speaker 4: played men's hoops was exciting.

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Speaker 1: Gymnastics at times caught my eye.

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Speaker 4: Overall, I would say I watched more and was more

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Speaker 4: interested in the Olympics than I thought I would be.

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Speaker 1: But then there were some things that I didn't love.

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Speaker 4: I think breakdancing is ridiculous. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: watched any of that companies, Well.

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Speaker 2: The only one that anyone saw was that woman out

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Speaker 2: of Australia that made a complete mockery. We'll never see

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Speaker 2: breakdancing again, as already it is not on the ledger

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Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty eight Games in Los Angeles. So

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Speaker 2: no breakdancing thanks to that woman, by the way, who

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Speaker 2: basically mocked the sport is what she did, and she

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Speaker 2: got the only mileage out of the sport. That's the

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Speaker 2: only breakdance that anyone ever saw was this thirty six

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Speaker 2: year old woman, you know, playing like she's a kangaroo.

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Speaker 2: Somebody compared her routine, which by the way, got zero points,

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Speaker 2: to that of a dog that just got out of

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Speaker 2: the you know, and he starts rolling around shaking. That's

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Speaker 2: what she looked like. She looked like a dog that

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Speaker 2: with you on that, you know, I will say this Rich.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you know, I'm an old school guy

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Speaker 2: track and field, right, it's not everyone's cup of tea.

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Speaker 2: I'm a track and field guy. And the track and

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Speaker 2: field was phenomenal. I mean, the United States won fourteen

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Speaker 2: track and field. You had the amazing finish in the

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Speaker 3: Was it was really entertaining for me.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it was interesting because some people

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Speaker 2: today are talking about the fact that the United States

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Speaker 2: actually could have had one more gold medal than China

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Speaker 2: instead of tying with them at forty if the high

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Speaker 2: gold medal with the guy from New Zealand, which was

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Speaker 2: what happened in the last Olympics where they were literally tied.

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Speaker 2: And the way the tiebreaker works in the high jump

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Speaker 2: But I give the US guy credit. No tie. I

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Speaker 2: mean I mentioned this yesterday. It would have been like

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Speaker 3: Let's just share the super Bowl championship.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Let's share it? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: the hell with the overtime. I not tired, man, Let's

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Speaker 2: just share the super Bowl. This is how ridiculous. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know even you could do that, what they did

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Speaker 2: at the Tokyo Games. So you can just decide, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: forget the jump off, man, Let's just share the gold.

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Speaker 2: And I would much rather the way it played out

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Speaker 2: I give the US guy credit. No, there's no tie. No,

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Speaker 2: there's no freaking tie. This is the Olympic Games. I'm

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Speaker 2: to settle for silver, more power to him. Not a tie,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the ties in tie is not

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Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a tie is a win.

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Speaker 3: A tie is not a win. It's not a loss.

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Speaker 3: It's a tie.

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's I completely agree with his decision, and Steve,

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Speaker 4: you nailed it. I failed to mention the fact that

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Speaker 4: track and field really shined this year, and in order

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Speaker 4: for the Summer Games to really truly shine, I mentioned

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Speaker 4: a lot of the fringe sports that captivated or caught

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Speaker 4: break dancing. But but but truly, if you're going to

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Speaker 4: have a successful Summer Games, it needs happened on the track,

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Speaker 4: year with Lyles. I think there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: this was an exciting year for track and field, and

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Speaker 4: even I caught myself watching some of the throw you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, the shot put guy first guy everha win three

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, Steve.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was one of those Olympics where I

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Speaker 4: to get much enjoyment out of it this year, and

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Speaker 4: I walked away feeling very differently.

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Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed the Olympics this year.

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Speaker 4: I think they did a good job, especially coming out

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Speaker 4: of the Tokyo COVID Olympics. That was a real tough

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Speaker 4: time for the athletes. That was a low buzz time

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Speaker 4: for interest in sports for a variety of different reasons,

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Speaker 4: and so I think this is this was the recovery

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Speaker 2: Well, as a father of a daughter whose name is Paris,

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Speaker 2: to see my daughter's names splashed all over the TV

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Speaker 2: constantly for two weeks was very exhilarating. No, I had

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Speaker 2: much more interest in these Olympics than I've had in

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Speaker 2: recent Olympics, not just Tokyo, but even some of the

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Speaker 2: the ratings have been good, and like I said, when

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Speaker 2: track and field shines, it raises to me the bar

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Speaker 2: in terms of the Olympic Games. By the way, thanks

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Speaker 2: So basketball, you know, and this is something I talked

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Speaker 2: I mean, all these sports have world championships, you know,

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Speaker 2: But in basketball, I mean, we talk about these Olympics

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Speaker 2: I mean this guy literally saved their ass on those

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Speaker 3: But you'll have nothing to gain. You only have something

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Speaker 2: You have twelve NBA All Stars on your team every

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Speaker 2: And the fact that the United States, I mean, when

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Speaker 2: The gold medal game in your home country. In about

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Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing I can think of, the

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Speaker 4: and if the the lead is out of hand for France,

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Speaker 4: can to preserve him, you know, for injury prevention sake,

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Speaker 4: and maybe they stuck with rules like that.

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Speaker 2: No, well, that only points out what I was talking

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Speaker 2: about there in terms of importance.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: In you know building a resume, the Olympics is second fiddle,

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Speaker 2: the NBA is you know, you're when you think back

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant winning four gold medals. Now first man who

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Speaker 4: By the way, very cool that he did that, very

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Speaker 4: very neat and and a fun footnote to his career

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Speaker 4: that he did that, that he felt, you know, compelled

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Speaker 4: to play in that many Olympics games and.

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Speaker 1: Also have that success.

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Speaker 4: I mean he should have that success, Like we mentioned

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Speaker 1: Show.

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Speaker 2: Basketball was born in the United States of America, we know.

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Speaker 2: See the one thing about basketball and its origins. Unlike

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Speaker 2: James Naysmith invented the game in eighteen ninety one.

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Speaker 3: Springfield, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: He was, but he was looking for a winter sport.

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Speaker 2: Put up a couple of baskets, literally baskets and the

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Speaker 4: And some of the best things that Canada has ever

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Speaker 2: So the United States winning two more golds in basketball?

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Speaker 2: The Soviet Union won a couple of goals in basketball.

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Speaker 2: They don't exist anymore. And Yugoslavia won a gold in basketball,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now Spain has three silvers in Spain, France has

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Speaker 3: Of course they got two more silvers in these Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is a perfect appraisal of what's happening.

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Speaker 3: So where do we go with this? And you know,

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Speaker 4: I get it, But you know what, this is a

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Speaker 2: We keep hearing this with every Olympics, the world is

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Speaker 2: Then they decided, you know what, how about if we

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Speaker 4: Well let me ask you this, and this may sound insane,

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Speaker 3: What is it? America's got? We want that thing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's interesting because when you think about certain sports

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Speaker 1: That was the year.

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Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, the United States is so dominant. What's

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Speaker 4: There because people watch Steve Because the Olympics. As much

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Speaker 4: I mean it doesn't cost nothing to host softball games.

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Speaker 4: It costs something. You got to build the infrastructure, You

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Speaker 4: it's probably gonna go away. We just talked about breakdancing

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Speaker 4: Now, basketball, I have to admit the one thing I

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Speaker 4: its borders, and they're doing that again going back to money,

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Speaker 4: because more eyes on the product, more money can be generated.

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Speaker 4: But I digress to talk about the competitive nature of

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Speaker 4: the sport, which is increasing overseas.

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Speaker 1: So how long is it gonna take.

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Speaker 4: Is it gonna take you know, twelve more years, is

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Speaker 4: gonna take sixteen? Is gonna take twenty twenty four more

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Speaker 4: years until we do see a country or countries catch

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Speaker 4: up to the type of prowess that the the the

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Speaker 4: collection of NBA All Stars on Team USUS puts out there.

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Speaker 4: It's possible if for the first time I would say

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Speaker 4: it's conceivable.

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: In the second Modern Olympic Games, which was held in

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Speaker 2: Paris in the year nineteen hundred. They had a competition

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Speaker 2: that year that they've never had since. And I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what that is on the other side, But first

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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now. Martin is

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Speaker 2: in the house.

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Speaker 3: That's truth, Dave.

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Speaker 9: Right now, approaching halftime in an NFL preseason game between

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Speaker 9: the Denver Broncos and Innapolis Colts quarterbacks of note Bo

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Speaker 9: Nicks making his NFL debut, He's ten for fifteen right now,

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Speaker 9: eighty three yards, passing one touchdown through the year. Adding

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Speaker 9: to that three carries for seventeen yards Robus five pointy

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Speaker 9: seven yards to carry for the young Denver quarterback. We've

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Speaker 9: seen three quarterbacks on the Indianapolis side of things, Sam Mellinger,

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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco, and last year's first round pick Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 9: He was two for four twenty five yards in very

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Speaker 9: limited action. Joe Flacco. If you carry us three for

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Speaker 9: five twenty eight yards, thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 3: The score approaching halftime.

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Speaker 9: In the Olympics, US women's basketball team win it's eighth

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Speaker 9: straight gold medal this morning, rad leying from ten points

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Speaker 9: down in the third quarter to defeat France sixty sixty

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Speaker 9: seven to sixty six. Angel Wilson led the Americans with

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Speaker 9: twenty one points thirteen rebounds.

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Speaker 3: The US women's national team has now won.

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Speaker 9: Sixty six straight Olympic goal Olympic Games. I should say

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Speaker 9: that games in the Olympics. He said they won six

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Speaker 9: to six straight Olympic Games.

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Speaker 1: Mix.

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Speaker 9: It seems like they won all the way back in

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Speaker 9: the years of Athens and Sparta.

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Speaker 3: I'll get that right.

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Speaker 1: Next time.

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Speaker 9: Italy took home the gold medal and women's volleyball beating

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Speaker 9: the US three sets to none. Baseball games in action

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Speaker 9: right now, let's see bottom of the ninth the Angels

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Speaker 9: lead the Nationals six to two. At astros over the

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Speaker 9: Red Sox won nothing in the bottom of the third.

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Speaker 9: Yankee's the two nothing lead over the Rangers. On the

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Speaker 9: top of the fourth. A's been pounding on the Blue

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Speaker 9: Jays that a five nothing lead at the bottom of

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Speaker 9: the first inning. Now it's bottom of the third. No

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Speaker 9: score so far between the Orioles and the Rays. At

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Speaker 9: the end of the third inning and at the start

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Speaker 9: of the fourth inning, we're looking at the Miami Marlins

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Speaker 9: five padres nothing. Top of the second, it's for the

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Speaker 9: Brewers and the Reds no score, Minnesota Minnesota Twins, and

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Speaker 9: the Cleveland Guardians no score as well in the bottom

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Speaker 9: of the second inning, Rich Steve back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Martin, thank you very very much. Once again,

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Speaker 2: we are here in our tire rack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually doing a little research here to make sure

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Speaker 2: I get this right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gotch No.

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Speaker 3: You're right, it's the tire rack dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, I'm reading three things at once, not just

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Speaker 2: two things.

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Speaker 3: I'm reading three things at once here.

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Speaker 2: So in the nineteen hundred Olympic Games, and some people

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Speaker 2: argue that the Summer.

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Speaker 3: Games should not actually be counted as the Olympic.

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Speaker 2: Games because it was part of the World's Fair celebration

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Speaker 2: in Paris, and it wasn't normal. I mean, they had

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Speaker 2: track and field events that were very familiar with but

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Speaker 2: they also had one sport that had one appearance in

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Speaker 2: the Olympics, never to be seen again.

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Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if this should be brought back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's here.

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Speaker 3: It ballooning.

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Speaker 2: So in the nineteen hundred Summer Olympics they had ballooning,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't just have a event, they had several

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Speaker 2: events distance, duration, elevation target without stop, target would stop

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Speaker 2: and distance and duration overall, and they were giving medals

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Speaker 2: out for this. The reason it went by the wayside

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Speaker 2: is that hot air ballooning soon died out when gas balloons,

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Speaker 2: which had been dominant at that were replaced by helium

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Speaker 2: and so. But they actually have photos these balloons are giant,

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Speaker 2: like gigantic balloons. It just you know, we get to

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Speaker 2: this break dancing and how much you add to me

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Speaker 2: more is not better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes.

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Speaker 2: Away to me the idea of winning a medal a

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Speaker 2: gold medal, obviously, but any kind of liken it cheapens it.

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Speaker 2: That's why I get irritated when they add medley events

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Speaker 2: and relay events to sports like swimming and track and field.

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Speaker 2: They just seem to keep adding events all the time,

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Speaker 2: and you just sort of lose track of things. This

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Speaker 2: is one of the reasons I'm a big winner, a

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Speaker 2: big fan of the Academy Awards.

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Speaker 3: They rarely add a category. I mean rarely.

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Speaker 2: They basically had the same categories forever, so they don't

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Speaker 2: give out many of them, which I guess a little

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Speaker 2: more special to actually win one. I wish they would

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Speaker 2: do that with the Olympics. Enough already. It's like the

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Speaker 2: Emmy Awards. They keep adding categories, creating categories, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody on the planet walks around with an

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Speaker 2: Emmy Awards like okay, yeah, okay, good for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just too much sometimes, Rich.

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Speaker 10: If we if we start training now, we can get

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Speaker 10: you into the ballooning in the twenty twenty eight Olympics,

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Speaker 10: if you're ready.

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Speaker 8: A new word ballooning means ballooning, doesn't have We need

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Speaker 8: to work on that word.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what they said, ballooning.

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Speaker 2: That was the actual name, I understand, not Hot Air

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Speaker 2: balloon Centurion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I personally think that me and

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Speaker 4: bo would make a great ballooning team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: So that's first of all.

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Speaker 4: And then we'd need a wrangler or a couple, so

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Speaker 4: Chris Purfett, maybe Martin wy Steve Hartman.

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Speaker 1: We've got our collection of talent here already.

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Speaker 4: Now, do we have to be athletes danchers? No, But

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Speaker 4: do we have to be ballooners? The answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at one of the legends from that games.

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Speaker 2: His name was on lead of all.

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Speaker 10: We should put Moncy in the balloon. Actually that would

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Speaker 10: be a competitive advantage.

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Speaker 9: So yes, I'm just I'm just sick that all the

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Speaker 9: week I spent training the breakdance just will go to

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Speaker 9: the note nothing.

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Speaker 3: In the next four years.

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Speaker 1: Martin.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate your effort. We have now transitioned to ballooning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for your time. By the way, I'm a cardboard.

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Speaker 2: The guy that dominated the competition in ballooning eventually died

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Speaker 2: when he collided with a power line.

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Speaker 3: See it, that's how that's actually that would you know

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Speaker 3: what that would be?

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Speaker 1: All lead.

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Speaker 4: They're way, way, way more power lines now than they

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Speaker 4: were in nineteen hundred exactly, So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are we willing to take that risk?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I think Moncey would be, So I'm gonna sign

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Speaker 4: her up.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about the para lines or Henri.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be watching the closing ceremonies Do

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Speaker 2: you have any interest in?

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Speaker 4: I think I will, And here's the reason why, because

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Speaker 4: I think they'll like I think the Chili Peppers are playing. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's like I think I think Tom Cruise is last

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Speaker 4: I checked. He's skydiving into the closing ceremony because.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess that the closing ceremonies will bear no

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Speaker 2: resemblance to the opening ceremonies.

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Speaker 1: That sounds accurate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think really, I think you want

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Speaker 2: to close the door in a positive.

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Speaker 1: You don't think the genie is coming back.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think some miscalculation, Babe in the opening ceremonies, But overall,

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Speaker 2: I thought the Olympics are great, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: and with the United States hanging on to that one

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Speaker 2: point victory over France, close, close, I mean, in retrospect,

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Speaker 2: did they make the right decision of not including Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark on this Olympic team in retrospect?

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Speaker 4: Now, Steve, We've talked about this many times. I think

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Speaker 4: that the Olympics. Yes, it's about a collection of your

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Speaker 4: best national stars representing your country in an international competition

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Speaker 4: once every four years, but it's also about shepherding in

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Speaker 4: the new generation of talent you have.

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Speaker 1: It may not always be the literal best that year.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you base decisions off of potential, like yeah, maybe

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Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark's not going to get a ton of playing

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Speaker 4: time this year because she isn't elite at this level yet,

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Speaker 4: but she will be, and she deserves a spot on

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Speaker 4: the star on this team because she is the star

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Speaker 4: of our league and she is the future of our league.

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Speaker 4: So I think they made an enormous miscalculation leaving out

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Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: Also, one other note was the Armenian boxer. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and she ended up winning the gold medal, and certainly

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Speaker 2: he defended herself talking about cyber harassment and everything else

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Speaker 2: and apparently has filed a complaint due to the abuse

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Speaker 2: over her gender at these Paris Olympics. I to be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, I'll defend her on this. I think

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Speaker 2: this story ran away with itself, starting with her first

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Speaker 2: match when the woman quit forty six seconds in, claiming

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Speaker 2: she'd never been hit that hard before. But if you

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Speaker 2: look back at her DQ from the World Championships now,

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Speaker 2: the group that decuted her and the other woman came

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Speaker 2: under fire is not legit.

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Speaker 3: She was born a woman. She I mean you know this,

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Speaker 3: some guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you and I are both men, but our

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Speaker 2: strength level is at a different level. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 2: I mean, and if it's true for you and me,

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Speaker 2: and it's it can be true.

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Speaker 3: For women as well.

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Speaker 2: Now are women that are just physically strong women, right.

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Speaker 4: Different look that one and by the way, completely natural. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about no perform it's enhancing. I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: no testosterone replacement anything like. There are just certain people

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Speaker 4: who have a genetic propensity to look different, be shaped different,

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Speaker 4: be stronger than other people of the same gender.

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Speaker 8: Right, Michael Phelps had a genetic advantage with how long

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Speaker 8: his body was.

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Speaker 1: Of course, absolutely, yeah, he had those long levers.

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Speaker 4: I mean it created more whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 4: force against the water and propelled them forward faster.

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Speaker 2: When you were the only lineman ever to this day

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Speaker 2: name the state high school player of the year in

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Speaker 2: the state of New York, were there any complaints about

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Speaker 2: the fact that you were just bigger, stronger than everybody else.

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Speaker 4: No, No, it was an acceptance. It was in fact,

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Speaker 4: it was celebrated.

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Speaker 3: Celebrated exactly literally.

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Speaker 4: I received that award, and nobody came up to me

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Speaker 4: and questioned ethics. Nobody came up to me and said, well,

665
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Speaker 4: you were too rough with those boys, Like No, that

666
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Speaker 4: it was excitement. I shook hands, I took pictures, and

667
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Speaker 4: I received a plaque like as, by the way, this

668
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Speaker 4: Armenian boxer should be should should be.

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Speaker 1: Receiving because she's born a woman, she is a woman.

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Speaker 4: Uh whatever, I don't I don't even know, but whatever

671
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Speaker 4: medical uh evaluation goes into the pre Olympic checkup. I mean,

672
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: she passed everything for the Olympics. Nothing was flagged, so

673
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: the determination shouldn't be like, oh, because she looks different,

674
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: she is different.

675
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, did anybody in the NFL sue Larry

676
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Allen for benching seven hundred pounds or the fact that.

677
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: Head he's larger than a huddle? I mean, the guys

678
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: got microwave? Like what I mean? There are physical, for

679
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Speaker 3: lack of a better word.

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Speaker 2: Freaks, Well, no, no, anomally there are anomalies out there.

681
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Speaker 2: So all right on the other side, we're gonna start

682
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: getting into a little NFL news. Yeah, season is underway,

683
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: and already preseason football is being scrutinized as ridiculous as

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Speaker 2: that sound. Who's under the microscope? We're gonna tell you.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harmon and Rich Hornberger.

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Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the tire

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Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios. So for the weekend warriors like

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Speaker 2: us here at Fox Sports Radio, I dare.

689
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: Say this, go ahead. We own the football season.

690
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because the football games are, with a few exceptions,

691
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: obviously played on the weekends, Saturday College football, Sunday, NFL football.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

693
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Speaker 3: I know, we have a Thursday game. You know, we

694
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Speaker 3: have Monday games.

695
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: They have a few other Friday games scattered around, but

696
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: you know it's basically Saturday College Sunday NFL and you

697
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: and I are very much part of that and have

698
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: been for a long time here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to it.

700
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Speaker 4: Steve red Zone Radio is officially going kickoff when the

701
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 4: football season does.

702
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Well, Actually it's gonna start next week.

703
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: Never mind, Yeah, it starts next week, start two pm.

704
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Speaker 2: Yes, Now, I got a good news programming news here,

705
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: So countdown to Kickoff Returns brought to you by bet MGM.

706
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: And then we'll be on ten to two on the

707
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Speaker 2: West Coast, one to five on the East Coast, and

708
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: then Dan Bayer and Carrie Rhodes, who will become a

709
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: dynamic duo as our lead in, are now going to

710
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Speaker 2: take over the slot after our show on Sundays.

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00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 4: I love that love Carrie, former teammate of mine with

712
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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. Dam Bayer has been our teammate here

713
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 4: for a fox. I mean both of us have been here.

714
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Speaker 2: Yes, so Dan and Carrie are going to do the show.

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Speaker 3: Right after ours.

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00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: Course, obviously more NFL games will do some of the afternoons,

717
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: but yes, starting out again.

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Speaker 3: This is this is my problem with the NFL season.

719
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Speaker 2: I still don't understand that bye week between the n

720
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Speaker 2: of the preseason and Week one of the NFL season. Granted,

721
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: it gives, you know, the college game the sole spotlight

722
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Speaker 2: that week, because that's gonna be Week one of the

723
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Speaker 2: college We have Week zero coming up in a couple

724
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Speaker 2: of weeks, so Week one of the college football stands alone.

725
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Speaker 2: But you remember how it used to be rich right

726
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: when we had four preseason games. Starters would play a

727
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Speaker 2: lot in Game three, like that was the dress rehearsal game,

728
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: and then week four you'd have the games done early,

729
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: remember like Friday or Thursday or Friday, all those games

730
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: would be done, and then the following week boom, Week

731
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Speaker 2: one of the NFL season. Now, this third and final

732
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: preseason game coming up in a couple of weeks has

733
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 2: played sometimes on Sunday, and then you have a week off.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: The NFL should never have a week off, even to

736
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: start the season. Rich, but that's where we're at. Doesn't matter.

737
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Speaker 3: We'll be all over it with our show.

738
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Speaker 2: Oh all right, yesterday I am doing TV in LA

739
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: and I'm showing some of the low lights from the

740
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Speaker 2: Chargers preseason opener against.

741
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Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks.

742
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: And Jim Harbaugh is jumping around on the sidelines like

743
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: a madman. He's jumping out and the Eastern Stick You've got,

744
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: you know, justin Herbert in a walking boot. So he's

745
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: not even gonna play any during this preseason. They're hoping

746
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: he's going to be ready for Week one. But you

747
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: got Easton Stick, hey, and and there's and there's Harbad.

748
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: He's jumping all over and he's patting him on the

749
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: helmet before the game and on his bats. All right, man,

750
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Speaker 2: let's go this. I'm I'm back. It's been ten years

751
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Speaker 2: since I've been coaching the NFL. Let's have a good

752
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: game out here. And Easton Stick could not have played worse.

753
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean he was awful, Yeah, awful. And you're watching

754
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: this Chargers team and granted, Herbert's not in. Yes, it's

755
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: a preseason game, but even Harbor I said, I love Harbor.

756
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: After the game, he's like, yeah, well, I I there

757
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: were some some good things on offense, but not nearly enough.

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Speaker 3: It was actually actual words were Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When when you talk to people who have been in

760
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: Chargers training camp, been taken in training camp, yeah, they're

761
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: they're pretty offense the defense or they're pretty honest about

762
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Speaker 4: the offensive struggles.

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Speaker 1: The defense looks like it's pretty far long.

764
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't have a nice fourth down stand, goal line stand.

765
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Speaker 4: But the offense leaves something to be desired. And even

766
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 4: with justin Herbert there, I mean, look, you're not gonna

767
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Speaker 4: go win.

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Speaker 3: The worst wide receiver core in the league.

769
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, serious, I mean they have less talent at

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Speaker 2: wide receiver than any other team in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's not overstating it. I mean it would be.

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Speaker 4: It would be a tie for the bottom, if not

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Speaker 4: the bottom of the league in turn of talent right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, collectively the league versus the Chargers and accumulating the

775
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Speaker 2: lack of talent. So no matter how good a quarterback

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Speaker 2: is and Herbert is elite, SI, I'll have to have

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Speaker 2: somebody to throw it to man. You do, and I

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00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: don't know how think. So it's gonna be a process.

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Speaker 2: I have faith in Jim Harborugh, he'll build a winner

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Speaker 2: with the Chargers. But anyone expecting some immediate turnaround for

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Speaker 2: this team is delusional.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying it.

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Speaker 4: Look, people are like, what are your expectations for the Chargers.

784
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, better than better than last year, but I

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Speaker 4: would keep your expectations low.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, there were some marquee quarterbacks making NFL debuts.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that. Keep it here. This

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Speaker 3: is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: So the Olympics are done.

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Speaker 2: The United States and China finished tied for first as

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Speaker 2: far as gold medals, but as far as overall medals,

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00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: the United States lap the field. So very successful Olympic Games.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see in la for the next Summer Games

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Speaker 2: coming up in four years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, looking forward to that. Just a quick drive for

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Speaker 4: most of us here around Fox Sports Radio. Our course,

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Speaker 4: our studios are ty raq dot com studios are based

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Speaker 4: out of Sherman Oaks in the Los Angeles area, So

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Speaker 4: I imagine many of us are going to be taken in

806
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Speaker 4: some of the games. What I do like about the

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Speaker 4: Olympics from the the the boots on the ground. You know,

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Speaker 4: they don't charge a tremendous amount of money for some

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Speaker 4: of these games to attend. Like obviously you have to

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Speaker 4: pay for lodging. If you're going to fly out to

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Speaker 4: stay near where an Olympics is happening, you're going to

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Speaker 4: have to pay for airfare or the gas money to

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Speaker 4: drive across Europe or the country the United States to

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Speaker 4: get there. But then once you're actually there, some of

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Speaker 4: these events you spend like twenty bucks you're in the door.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and exactly. And by the way, when you've

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Speaker 2: been watching these Olympic Games in Paris, it seems like

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Speaker 2: they have huge crowds for all these events.

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Speaker 3: That was not the case.

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Speaker 2: There were several events where they didn't have huge crowds

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Speaker 2: and they were.

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Speaker 3: Basically giving away tickets. So, I mean, there are so many.

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Speaker 2: Events during the course of the day, it only makes

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Speaker 2: sense so when they are when they do make a

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Speaker 2: last second decision to bring back break dancing, and you

826
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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to have that as your sole Olympic experience. Rich,

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Speaker 2: I know you'll be very excited about that. So this

828
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: year in the NFL, the twenty twenty four draft, something

829
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: happened that it only happened once ever an NFL draft history,

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Speaker 2: and that is where the first two picks in the

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Speaker 2: draft were both Heisman Trophy winners. Now, the last time

832
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: this happened, and the only other time it happened was

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen when Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota were

834
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Speaker 2: the first two picks in the draft. I mean, it's

835
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Speaker 2: very strange you have two heis And winners, even in

836
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Speaker 2: the same draft. As normally a Heisman winner goes straight

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Speaker 2: to the NFL, Winston couldn't because he was ineligible for

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Speaker 2: the NFL draft after winning the Heisman.

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Speaker 1: He was too young.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was too young.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know about you, but I'm going to

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00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: make a guess that neither Jameis Winston nor Marcus Mariota

843
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: will have a bust in Kanton, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to go out on the lift.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the Yeah. I think that's a fairly

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Speaker 4: decent bet.

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Speaker 2: That's a fairly decent bet. How about this little note.

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Speaker 2: In the history of football Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: there is only one player who won the Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 2: as a quarterback and is in the Pro Football Hall

851
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Speaker 2: of Fame as a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: One Roger Staubach. Wow, he's the only one.

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00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Now, Paul Horning won the Heisman as a quarterback and

854
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, but he went into the Pro Football Hall

855
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: of Fame as a running back with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: But only one, Roger Staubach is the only one to

857
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: win the Heisman Trophy as a quarterback and then make

858
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a quarterback.

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00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: His last NFL season was nineteen seventy nine. He won

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Speaker 2: the Heisman in nineteen sixty three. There have been a

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Speaker 2: lot of Heisman quarterbacks since then. Rich Now you could

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00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: look at some of the more recent ones and say,

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00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, maybe he'll be a Hall of Famer. You

864
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Speaker 2: got a sense he's gonna have to win a super

865
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Speaker 2: Bowl along the way, but he's already got two MVPs.

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Speaker 2: He awards Joe Burrow. Okay, if he could stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: I don't look at Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray as

868
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Speaker 2: Hall of famers, but who knows, maybe they'll have a

869
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Speaker 2: late surge in their career.

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Speaker 1: Baker, he's been to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He's been in the playoffs. Kyler Murray's been to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs once.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not like.

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Speaker 2: They've been busted. Far from it. I mean they've had

875
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: some good seasons but only one Roger Staubach. So we're

876
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: hearing all this height yesterday about both Jane and Daniels

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Speaker 2: with the Commanders and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Of the Bear.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they looked phenomenal, and I'm like, okay, we played

880
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: some Katleb Williams highlights last night.

881
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: He played in two series.

882
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 2: He made a nice third down conversion third and long

883
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: conversion with a pass and then converted another conversion with

884
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: his legs.

885
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: We know what kind of athlete it is.

886
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: And then Jane Daniels also had a beautiful pass to

887
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: set up a score, his.

888
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: Own score in his one series with the commanders.

889
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: I asked this of Adam Kaplan yesterday, How is that

890
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: possible that we've had all these Heis and winning quarterbacks

891
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: over the years and only one one has actually got

892
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. And he says that's because

893
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: the college game is completely different. There's a difference between

894
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: a college quarterback and a pro quarterback. So what's your

895
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: gut feeling rich about Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels both

896
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: had phenomenal collegiate careers, well deserved Heisman trophies, and now

897
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: they go to bad teams hoping that they're going to

898
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: be franchise quarterbacks and maybe down the road elite quarterbacks,

899
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: elite enough to get in shrine in Canton, Ohio. Do

900
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: you get a good feeling or are they in the

901
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: same bag of other quarterbacks that we've been seeing now

902
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: over the last twenty years.

903
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: With high selections in the draft.

904
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 4: I think you have a better chance of guys these

905
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: days having success than in years past.

906
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: And the reason why is pretty.

907
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: Simple, because it is so much more about what you

908
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: can get out of your players than what you can

909
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: get out of your system. And I've been saying this

910
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: for years now, but it's only becoming more obvious. I

911
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: should say is quarterbacks especially need to be productive, otherwise

912
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: a head coach or offensive coordinator will be fired. I mean,

913
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: the investment that these teams make in these players.

914
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: It's to the point.

915
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 4: Where it's very, very rare where you stick with a

916
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: losing strategy in terms of the system you're employing, and

917
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: you move off of a quarterback, you'll fire a head coach.

918
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: I mean, perfect example, we were just talking about Baker Mayfield.

919
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't what was best for Baker, but they didn't

920
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: love how Hugh Jackson was working with them, so they

921
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: got rid of him.

922
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: They got rid of the head coach.

923
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: Same thing with Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers last year.

924
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: They didn't like what was happening with Frank Reich. They

925
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: got rid of him before he even finished his first

926
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: season with the the Carolina Panthers. So we're getting to

927
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 4: the point in the NFL where if you don't make

928
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: your quarterback automatically successful in the league, they're gonna get

929
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: rid of you.

930
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: So I think that we're going to see more.

931
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: Of these high prized and high priced talents coming out

932
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: of college have more success at the league. Level, because

933
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: it's incumbent upon these coaches to keep their jobs to

934
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: have a successful quarterback.

935
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: Well, we constantly use the term expendable when we talk

936
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: about running backs in the NFL. Right, why waste an

937
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: elite pick on a running back when we see I mean,

938
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: let's go back to the Chargers Austin Eckler. I'm sorry,

939
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: where was he drafted? He wasn't, and for a couple

940
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 2: of years he was one of the elite running backs

941
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: in the league. They're interchangeable, and I dare say the

942
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: success of Brock Purty, the last player picked in the

943
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: draft with the forty nine ers, and is a ability

944
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: to pick up the Kyle Shanahan's system and execute it

945
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: to the level he has already to me, is a

946
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: sign that we need to reevaluate the priority at least

947
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 2: in terms of where you're drafting as far as quarterbacks

948
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: are concerned, because I dare say that quarterbacks are as

949
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: susceptible to the system as any position in the NFL.

950
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: Right place, right time, right system. The ability to throw

951
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: the ball. I mean, we talk about two things that

952
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: a successful quarterback has to have the ability to throw

953
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: the ball accurately and the ability to make quick decisions,

954
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: that's spontaneous. What do I do with the football once

955
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: the play begins? And if you have those two ingredients

956
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: in your repertoire, then you can be successful. But this

957
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: idea of taking all these quarterbacks high in the draft

958
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: of the first twelve picks this year, and this is

959
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: just three years after we had five quarterbacks in the

960
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: first fifteen picks, four of which are no longer on

961
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: thost teams, I dare say, in some respect, and I'm

962
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: not blittling the benefit of having a talent like Patrick Mahomes,

963
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: that the quarterback position by and large is overrated. It's

964
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: less about the quarterback and more about a system that

965
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: works well.

966
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on.

967
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: So I disagree with you from the standpoint of it's overrated.

968
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: I think that you need to have an ultra talented

969
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: quarterback to play in the NFL.

970
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Still, however, I also.

971
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: Think in companion with an ultra talented quarterback, you need

972
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 4: to have a coach or a system that's willing to

973
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 4: accommodate to the specific talents and needs of that player

974
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: in order to have immediate success.

975
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 3: But isn't that what I'm saying?

976
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: It's the system makes the quarterback and not the quarterback

977
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: that makes the system.

978
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: All right, But let's rewind to last year's draft as

979
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 4: an example. You're telling me that if you took Bryce

980
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: Young and you put him in Houston, the Texans have

981
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: the level of success that CJ. Stroud had that the

982
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: Texans had.

983
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: Well, let's flip it. You put c J.

984
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: Stroud with the Carolina Panthers. Does he have the same

985
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: level as success.

986
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: I think he has more success than Bryce Young because

987
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 4: I think he's a more talented quarterback.

988
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: Steve, I really do.

989
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 4: I mean Bryce Young he looked flustered behind a bad

990
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: offensive line.

991
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 11: C J.

992
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Stroud played behind a patchwork.

993
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: Quilt of an offensive line for six games this season

994
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: as they were a revolving door with injuries.

995
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: And he shined. I mean he was getting banged up too.

996
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: You know, all the excuses that people made for Bryce

997
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: Young you could have used for CJ. Stroud, except he

998
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: didn't need to because he was having success. I mean,

999
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: think about the receivers he was throwing to. Noah Brown.

1000
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: Nico was a Nico Collins. I mean these aren't household names.

1001
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: A Dulton Schultz. Yeah, he's a talented tight end. There's

1002
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: no question about it. But like, I mean, what do

1003
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 4: we what are we talking about here? Yes, the system

1004
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: is important, I'm not denying that, Steve, But like, the

1005
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: quarterback is everything still in this game, and more so

1006
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: now than ever before, because if you don't have a

1007
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: guy with exceptional talent, field vision, leadership abilities, arm strength

1008
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: to deliver the ball everywhere on the field that he

1009
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: needs to on time, accuracy, timing, you are going to

1010
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: struggle until that quarterback a either learns how to do

1011
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 4: all those things at the NFL level at a competent level,

1012
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: or B you move on from that quarterback.

1013
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: Because I understand that, but I'll go I'll go way

1014
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 2: back in time.

1015
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: But it is a Hall of Fame name. His name

1016
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: is Dan Fouts.

1017
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: Dan Fouts was a third round pick out of the

1018
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: University of Oregon, drafted by a bad team, the San

1019
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: Diego Chargers, and for six years did nothing nothing. I mean,

1020
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: there was no indication that this guy wasn't anything more

1021
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: than a journeyman quarterback that was going to go to

1022
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: camp every year to try to battle for a position

1023
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: as a starting quarterback.

1024
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: And then Don Coriel showed up.

1025
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Don Coriel put in a system and the

1026
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, Dan Fast is a first ballot

1027
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, same quarterback, completely different system, and all

1028
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's a different quarterback and he becomes

1029
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame quarterback after showing no signs in

1030
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: his first five or six years that he was anything

1031
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: close to that level.

1032
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: To me, the system makes the quarterback.

1033
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, when we think about this draft

1034
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: this year, we mentioned six quarterbacks in the first twelve picks.

1035
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: Did you know that this was the first NFL draft

1036
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: since the merger in nineteen seventy that had no quarterbacks

1037
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: selected in the second through fourth rounds.

1038
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: You know what I means?

1039
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: You could have gotten any one of those quarterbacks with

1040
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: a later pick.

1041
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

1042
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: Boh Nicks, JJ McCarthy, Michael Panics.

1043
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 3: Why were you taking these guys high in the first.

1044
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: Round you could have gotten in the second round, probably

1045
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: the third round, fourth round because there were no quarterbacks

1046
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: taken in those three rounds.

1047
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: Well also potentially because those guys you just mentioned were

1048
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: already gone.

1049
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I look at it through.

1050
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: My point is why did you use those high picks

1051
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: on those Look the top three picks we knew, we

1052
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: knew Caleb Williams, Jade and Daniels Drake May but Panix

1053
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: McCarthy knicks. I mean, you didn't need to use a

1054
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: high first round pick to get those guys. You could

1055
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: have gotten in the second, third, or fourth rounds.

1056
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: You could make the same argument.

1057
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson could have been available to the Ravens in

1058
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: the second round. He right, They traded into the first

1059
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: round at thirty second overall to get Lamar Jackson. It

1060
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: ended up being the reason why John Harbass still has

1061
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: a job because they were floundering with the end of

1062
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: the Flacco years and they needed to find a transition

1063
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: to a new quarterback and they found it by sneaking

1064
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 4: back into the first round. Now, yeah, you could wait

1065
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 4: and maybe you miss out, or you could wait him

1066
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: maybe you get better value on Lamar Jackson. But I

1067
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: guess my point is this, at the quarterback position, it

1068
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: being so important as I'm trying to outline here, why wait,

1069
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: because if you hit on one of these guys, nobody, Hey,

1070
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 4: nobody's gonna blame you for reaching for a quarterback if

1071
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: you believe in them, nobody's gonna blame.

1072
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: Really, no, because.

1073
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: If Brock Party doesn't happen.

1074
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: You don't think that the forty nine ers would be

1075
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 2: eating it right now with that Trey Lance pick.

1076
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, don't get me wrong. You can't.

1077
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 4: You can't completely miss, Like Trey Lance was a complete miss.

1078
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if you overvalue a quarterback, he.

1079
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 4: Ends up being a competent second tier quarterback, a franchise

1080
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: guy that he can build around. But eh, you know,

1081
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 4: I mean, is he really gonna win us a Super Bowl?

1082
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: You know, think Dak Prescott, Think Jimmy Garoppolo for a

1083
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: time there, Think Kirk Cousins throughout the course of his career.

1084
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: Think Alex Smith when he was still playing. Like, there's

1085
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: a lot of those guys who are guys, you know,

1086
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: they're really talented, but they're gonna hover somewhere between, you know,

1087
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: the twelfth best and the twentieth best quarterback in the league.

1088
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 4: Year after year. They're gonna break into the postseason sometimes.

1089
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: So that's my point. If you reach for one of

1090
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 4: those guys, nobody's gonna be like, oh my gosh, the

1091
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: Vikings swung and missed huge on JJ McCarthy because by

1092
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 4: the end of his season, Yeah, they got eight years

1093
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 4: of a starting quarterback, but he only took him to

1094
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 4: the postseason three times.

1095
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: You're not going to evaluate it that way.

1096
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: However, if you miss out on a JJ McCarthy, Like

1097
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 4: we do this all the time with drafts. We say, oh,

1098
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Speaker 4: you know who the Denver Broncos could have had Josh Allen,

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 4: but instead they selected who was it? Bradley Chubb out

1100
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: of NC State. It's like, well, yeah, twenty twenty. Hindsight,

1101
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 4: you'll get roasted for that more than you will for

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 4: reaching on bow Nicks.

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00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: Again, to me, the system makes the quarterback. But Steve,

1104
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you keep talking about talent.

1105
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: Dan Fouts is an exception. Dan Founts is an exception.

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00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 4: There are so so fewer examples like a Dan Fouts

1107
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: where he was a fledgling journeyman until he found the

1108
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 4: right system for him.

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00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: And there's there.

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00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: You honestly believe Joe Montana would have had the same

1111
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: success had he not been under the tutelage of Bill Walsh.

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00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay, well, an offense was done.

1113
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: Look at Drew Brees and his career that took off

1114
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: when he went with Sean Payton.

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00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 4: You can't name me five coaches who are who are

1116
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame conversation who didn't have exceptional quarterback?

1117
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: But this goes back you.

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00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: Have had this conversation about your former coach and your

1119
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: former team a Belichick and Brady?

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Speaker 3: Who made who right?

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00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Right? Who? Well, in that case, it was a combination

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Speaker 1: of talent.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a combination for all of them, but

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: All the time because if you're asking me who made who,

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Speaker 4: John Hall or Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson was a Heisman

1127
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: level talent coming out of Louisville. And don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 4: I think that they put him in the proper system.

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: But what they did is they turned on Louisville film

1130
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: and said, hey, we're gonna do a lot of that stuff.

1131
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: And guess what, it.

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00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: Worked, except they didn't work in the NC Championship game

1133
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: when they decided to go away from the game plan

1134
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: and try to have him match pass for pass for Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That was Todd Munkins's fault and that was one does

1136
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: he had a job. He freaked out. I don't know,

1137
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: he freaked out.

1138
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: He was like, you know what, have Lamar Jackson throw

1139
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: the ball forty times? What do you think?

1140
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: What a mistake? And by the way, is it a

1141
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: one score game.

1142
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: It's not even like it got They got behind right

1143
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: like you would.

1144
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: Understand if it was a one score game.

1145
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous lantine for the Baltimore Ravenes.

1146
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: All right, Well, coming up on the other side, there

1147
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: are other things to talk about when it comes to

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: the National Football League and this time of the season,

1149
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: as we get ready for the regular season, how the

1150
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: changing dynamic of the preseason really changes the way an

1151
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: entire season is looked at. Will explain. This is Fox

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00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger Fox Sports Sunday

1153
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: relyve from the Tairaq dot Com studios, which we got

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Speaker 2: problems with this new kickoff rule. I don't know if

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00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: you saw this in the Jacksonville, Kansas City game. So

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00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: Jacksonville kicks off and again if the ball lands in

1157
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: the field to play between the goal line and the

1158
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: twenty yard line and.

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Speaker 3: Needs to be returned.

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Speaker 2: So Casey has two receivers back for this kickoff and

1161
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: it sails over their head and lands in the end zone. However,

1162
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: the ball then bounces back onto the field a play.

1163
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: Mikole Hartman, seeing this, races over to grab the ball

1164
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: and and then puts his body and his knee in

1165
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Speaker 2: the end zone and then that drags the ball back

1166
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Speaker 2: into the end zone. So he reaches out. It's like

1167
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Speaker 2: at the half yard line. He reaches out and pulls

1168
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Speaker 2: it back in with his knee in the end zone,

1169
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Speaker 2: and they call touchback. So they're, you know, placing the

1170
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Speaker 2: ball in the thirty yard line, right and Peterson. Peterson decides,

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Speaker 2: wait a second, I think you guys got the rule wrong.

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Speaker 3: That's a lie ball.

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Speaker 2: And so the officials review the play and they decide

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Speaker 2: to award Jacksonville a safety on the play.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine this happened in a regular season game?

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Speaker 1: No, it cannot.

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Speaker 2: So even the officials are not clear on the rule

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01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: with this kickoff, it could happen once.

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Speaker 3: It could certainly happen again.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. So far.

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Speaker 4: It's been now obviously the Hall of Fame game this

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Speaker 4: next weekend worth of games, or should say part of

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Speaker 4: this weekend's games, and so far I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I my opinion can change, and I could be convinced

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Speaker 4: otherwise if I start to see the value somewhere that

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: this adds to the start of the game, the start

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Speaker 4: of the half or any you know, an any play

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Speaker 4: after after a score.

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Speaker 3: But so far, I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I think the changes has been clunky as I expected. However,

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Speaker 4: I also I just and maybe this is because it's

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Speaker 4: not the regular season. Maybe it's because every special teams

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 4: coordinator wants to be super vanilla during the preseason and

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Speaker 4: not tip their hand as to how exciting this play

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Speaker 4: or how explosive this play could be for the return team.

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Speaker 1: But so far, I do not like.

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Speaker 4: It, and I'm interested to see how it looks during

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Speaker 4: the regular season. But I fear that I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: like it in the regular season either.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure teams are trying to calculate a game plan.

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01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: To man, they're not gonna show it up in a

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Speaker 2: preseason game, but right behind the scenes are working on

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Speaker 2: because I did remember in the uf actually it was

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Speaker 2: the XFL before they became part of the UFL, where

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Speaker 2: they used this rule, where they had reverses. There were

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Speaker 2: a lot of different things they try to do to

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Speaker 2: spring the returner, you know, for a big return. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: this was confusing. As Andy Reid said after the game,

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Speaker 2: he used to be if the ball is dead you know,

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Speaker 2: down in the end zone. It's a dead ball, right,

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Speaker 2: But that's not the case with the new rule, And

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Speaker 2: apparently the officials not aware of this, so they reviewed

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Speaker 2: the play and Doug Peterson was right, that's not a

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Speaker 2: down ball. That is a safety. I look at it

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Speaker 2: this way.

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Speaker 4: You don't want your sports viewers to think too much, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, like, and I don't mean to offend anybody

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Speaker 4: who's a fan of football, like, oh yeah, you guys

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Speaker 4: are going to be able to catch up to this one.

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Speaker 4: It's going to take an expert. No, no, no, that's

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Speaker 4: not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 4: the game of football is confusing enough already. The game

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Speaker 4: of football has a pretty enormous barrier for entry. You

1224
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: have to really understand the game before you can really

1225
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Speaker 4: truly enjoy the game. You know, the systems with the downs,

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Speaker 4: you know, having four downs per offense, and then it's

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Speaker 4: like it's pretty confusing to talk to somebody who's never

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01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: seen a game before. It's like, why would you ever

1229
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Speaker 4: punt to? Why would you ever give the ball to

1230
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Speaker 4: the other team? And then you describe field position, you

1231
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Speaker 4: get into the conversation.

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Speaker 1: About the points scoring.

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Speaker 4: You just mentioned a safety that's its own set of points.

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Speaker 4: An extra point is only worth one point pik elect

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Speaker 4: for a two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: A touchdown is six points.

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Speaker 3: How many times do you see a safety on a kickoff?

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's extremely rare.

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Speaker 3: It's almost impossible. It's just it's just possible now.

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of my point is if all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you're a for example, use the example of

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Speaker 4: a better let's let's talk about betting. Imagine you're somebody

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: who's got a pretty decent amount of money wagered on

1244
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 4: the game, you know, and everybody has their own thresholds

1245
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: of amount of money that they're comfortable betting on a game.

1246
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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if a play like that determined the

1247
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: outcome of a bet, you had to have people furious.

1248
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: And that's the problem for the NFL is there wasn't

1249
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 4: really much wrong with the kickoff other than the fact

1250
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Speaker 4: that it kind of felt like a free play, and

1251
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 4: it's like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it is a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But also you have those magical moments like when what

1254
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Speaker 4: was his name, Nahem Hines returned to kickoff returns for

1255
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Speaker 4: touchdowns in the same game, you know, it happens still,

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Speaker 4: it's still a part of the game. I understand the

1257
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 4: excuses for players safety. I understand the idea of trying

1258
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: to find a way to make the game more exciting,

1259
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 4: but you're what you're creating is a clunky transition. Fans

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Speaker 4: are going to have to think. Commentators aren't on board

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Speaker 4: with it. So you're hearing these commentators like, yeah, well

1262
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 4: we'll see how this goes, and it's just like you know,

1263
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 4: it's it's a bad sell. It's the change has been

1264
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 4: it's been a poor rollout.

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Speaker 1: The soft launch has been poor.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now

1267
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Speaker 2: as Martin is back.

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Speaker 3: Martin, have you enjoyed the Olympic Games? I did more

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Speaker 3: than I thought I was going to.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, like in lockstep, that is my exact attitude,

1271
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Speaker 2: more than I thought I was going to.

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Speaker 3: I will say, break dancing is not a sport.

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: No, no, and it will never be back. You saw

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: it's what it's a it's a Paris sport. But I

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: mean you would think, I mean you think obviously it

1276
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: was born in this country, right, but it will not

1277
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Speaker 2: be part of the agenda at the twenty twenty eight

1278
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Speaker 2: games in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: So after that Australian woman made a mockery of it.

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Speaker 3: That's the end of it.

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Speaker 9: It's like, you know, see something's are competition, somethings are sports.

1282
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. There's a lot of things work

1283
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Speaker 2: competitive about. I mean, why isn't poker an Olympic sport?

1284
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: Hot dog eating?

1285
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Speaker 1: Right?

1286
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, competition not a sport.

1287
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'd rather see hot dog eating than whatever that

1288
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Speaker 4: breakdancing was.

1289
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you have competing, right, which is a sport?

1290
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Speaker 2: It's featured on the four letter, is it not? Every

1291
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: Fourth of July? They make a big deal out of it.

1292
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Speaker 3: Steve, thinking about spelling be going to be an Olympic sport?

1293
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Speaker 9: That would be interesting with the translation. Do you think

1294
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 9: that the Russian contestant would have to spell it in Russian?

1295
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Speaker 9: And then you know the French contention the things out.

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Speaker 4: I also would rather watch the spelling bee than breakdancing,

1297
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Speaker 4: there's no doubt, all right, But.

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Speaker 9: Would you rather watch Zach Wi football TV than break dancing?

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Speaker 9: Because that's what's happening right now for the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: If you had a spelling bee, would you break it

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Speaker 2: down by weight class.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's tell you no, I don't think.

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Speaker 8: That's lightweight, welter wade, heavyweight, break the record for your

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Speaker 8: youngest Olympian very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Age class I guess, like right first spelling me, you

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Speaker 2: mean like grade age class class. That's what they call

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: that these days, Steve grades. Yeah, thank you, problem, I gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of grades, I'll give it. I'm probably an a

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Speaker 2: pluff to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I'm not really watching this game. Sorry, I just was

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Speaker 9: talking up the left side of my mind, exact.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks to be the breakout star this year. And

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: how's he looking today?

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Speaker 3: He looks good. Yeah, fifteen twenty one passing. Thank you.

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: There you go. You got his yards too, touchdown through

1317
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: a touchdown, all over bow Knicks. I have banked my

1318
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 3: entire season on bo Nicks.

1319
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 9: Well, I'm telling you this, Uh, this is not reporting.

1320
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 9: This is some some bad inside information that I got.

1321
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 9: I'm not reading this as a part of the update.

1322
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 9: Bo Nicks is the starter, so yeah, nothing.

1323
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: Will be the starter, and he's going to shock the

1324
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: world by leading the Broncos to the playoffs.

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: I'll let you have that one.

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01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do that.

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: I do that a rich last week and he was not.

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: He didn't like that thing, could you man? Oh my goodness,

1329
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm and I'll get to this in just a moment.

1330
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 9: But just the madness that would occur if Sean Payton

1331
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 9: after Jettison Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh made the playoffs of

1332
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 9: Jim Harbaugh on all of this.

1333
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: You know Charger land La la la la lad Well,

1334
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: the last guy that the last team to Jennison Russell Wilson.

1335
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: The Seahawks looked like they had no quarterback, and then

1336
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: Geno Smith showed up and.

1337
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: Went to the playoffs that year. So history has precedent here,

1338
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: that is true.

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 9: Bo Nicks fifteen for twenty one, one hundred and twenty

1340
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 9: five yards. He played a lot in the second and

1341
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 9: third quarters here, one touchdown pass, three rushes, seventeen yards.

1342
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson also saw him in action today two for

1343
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 9: four for twenty five yards. Joe Flacco three for five

1344
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 9: for twenty eight yards. So saw I mean a total

1345
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 9: of seven quarterbacks played in this game.

1346
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: So and nothing says preseason quite like that.

1347
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 9: Just anout an hour away from the Cowboys and the

1348
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 9: Rams getting started. You guys were just talking about Trey Lance.

1349
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 9: Expected to see quite a bit of him today. In

1350
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 9: Major League Baseball, the Cleveland Guardians and the Minnesota Twins

1351
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 9: tied one in the sixth inning. Yankees with a five lead,

1352
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 9: five run lead over the Rangers six to one in

1353
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 9: the sixth, Houston pounding the Red Sox ten to nothing

1354
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 9: in the sixth inning.

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01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: Oakland. They've been up in early in this game and

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: pretty much the whole time.

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 9: Eight to one over Toronto right now in the seventh,

1358
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 9: Orioles and Rays one to one in the seventh, Padres

1359
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 9: trailing the Marlins five to four win the seventh inning,

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 9: two reds Brewers three to two in the fifth, and

1361
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 9: the Braves with a one run lead, won nothing in

1362
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 9: the second inning. Over at the Colorado Rockies, US women's

1363
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 9: basketball team won its eighth straight gold medal this morning.

1364
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 9: They've now won sixty six straight games of Olympic play.

1365
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 9: They had a third point deficit a third quarter ten

1366
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 9: point deficit, but ended up rallying, of course, to beat

1367
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 9: France sixty seven to sixty six.

1368
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 3: Aja Wilson had twenty.

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 9: One points thirteen rebounds, leading all Americans in Italy took

1370
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 9: home gold and the women's volleyball beating US three sets

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 9: to none.

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: As we currently are watching the closing.

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 9: Ceremonies, Steve pour one out for the twenty twenty four

1374
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 9: Parish Olympics because this thing is over.

1375
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: You don't got to go home, but you can't stay

1376
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:13,839
Speaker 3: there anymore.

1377
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: Apparently it's a little sweltering the weather right now, because

1378
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: these athletes are fanning themselves as they enter into the

1379
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: stadium for these closing ceremonies.

1380
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: But I think it's cool.

1381
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: The athletes that won medals have got the medals draped

1382
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: around their necks and everything else well, and then of

1383
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: course those that didn't win a metal reminded that they

1384
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: come home.

1385
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: You got to tell those athletes with those medals around

1386
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: the neck. I don't know if you saw this story, but.

1387
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 9: The skateboarder I was complaining about his bronze after he

1388
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 9: wore it around his sweaty neck was starting.

1389
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 3: To turn a little green. Really, so be careful out there, guys.

1390
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: It was like bronze paint and it was starting to

1391
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: like rust and melt on him.

1392
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: I guess it's the idea of the metal more than

1393
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: the actual medal.

1394
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 9: I think I saw that I'd be mad if my

1395
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 9: medal started to tarnish, I'd be mad.

1396
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 8: I believe I saw that the gold medals are actually

1397
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 8: mostly so I think Dan Byer brought this up. They're

1398
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 8: mostly silver in composition, which will tarnish. And yeah, I

1399
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 8: don't know what's going on with those bronze medals.

1400
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: But well I know this because I've I've actually seen

1401
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: like a gold medal or an Olympic gold medal, and

1402
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: it's actually in a box like they you know, they

1403
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: have a decorative box.

1404
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: To sort of put it away.

1405
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: It's sort of like you're losing Super Bowl, ring rich

1406
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: where you you have it put away somewhere.

1407
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay.

1408
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I got a I remember, all of a sudden,

1409
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 4: I'm not with the Patriots anymore. I'm in Arizona playing

1410
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 4: for the Cardinals, and all of a sudden I receive

1411
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 4: a package from the New England Patriots, Like, what the

1412
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: hell is this? It's one Patriots Way. I was like, oh,

1413
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 4: that's old that address. I'm like, I wonder what this is.

1414
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 4: So open it up and it's an AFC Championship ring

1415
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 4: mm hmm. And it has a nice little letter from

1416
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, and you know,

1417
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 4: you know, thank you for your dedicating our hard work.

1418
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 4: There's a token of our appreciation. Blah blah blah. And

1419
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm just like, wait a second. My first reaction was

1420
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,919
Speaker 4: did they did they accidentally send out super Bowl rings? Like,

1421
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: because it's a beautiful ring. It looks like a Super

1422
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 4: Bowl ring.

1423
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: Hold.

1424
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 4: But then I read it again and it said, you know,

1425
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 4: for you know, to honor our win at THEFC Championship Game.

1426
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my god. I said, this

1427
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 4: is a second place ring. Ye, And then I thought

1428
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: about it for a second. I put it on my finger.

1429
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: I said, I can never ever wear this.

1430
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: Yes, and you've never put it on your finger again?

1431
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just have it put away somewhere. It's very nice.

1432
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: But can you imagine if I walk around wearing that,

1433
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 4: people be like, oh my gosh, Patriots, what super Bowl?

1434
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: They win? No?

1435
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 4: No, no, this is from the two thousand and twenty

1436
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 4: twelve AFC Championship Game win over the Baltimore Ravens and

1437
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 4: then we lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl.

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: Anyways, have a nice day exactly. By the way, as

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Speaker 2: a nation, we are struggling with rising expenses. Now Rich

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Speaker 2: I want to bring up something I heard Jonas talk

1460
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: about this. I was looking at the same story and

1461
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if we have the sound. Jerry Zandsky, No,

1462
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 2: not the Jerry Zandusky of Penn State infamy. This is

1463
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: Jerry Zandesky, who's the radio play by play voice of

1464
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. He spells it with a G instead

1465
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 2: of a J. Smart choice, Yeah, smart choice. So Jerry

1466
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: Zandusky during a broadcast, suddenly one on this rant, do

1467
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: we have that sound?

1468
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's hear this.

1469
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: He's going to be talking about, of all things, the

1470
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: chain gang at this NFL game.

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Speaker 12: As you look at the replay, think about this.

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01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 13: We have the technology to put a GPS tracker on mars,

1473
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 13: but we still use a bunch of older guys on

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01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 13: the sideline with sticks to measure whether at a ball

1475
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 13: carry got a first down or not. Not that I

1476
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 13: got the older guys with sticks, but at an age

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 13: of wild up high tech data metrics would space.

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 3: Stretch out the sticks the shore. All right, you got

1479
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: it by half of football.

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: It just seems absurd that in a game where they had.

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 12: GPS trackers on players shoulder pads, they have nineteen different

1482
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 12: levels of algorithms to measure everything.

1483
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 13: In the NFL, we still use guys with glasses who

1484
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 13: are no longer what you call physically.

1485
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 12: Fit trotting out a pair of sticks to measure first down.

1486
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: All right, So on the other side, I want to

1487
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: get into this because modern technology obviously he's right. I mean,

1488
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: we can, you know, send a mission to Mars, right,

1489
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: and yet we still have guys with chains, you know,

1490
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: measuring But by the way, gets back to the gambling

1491
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 2: aspect of the NFL, where an inch could be thousands.

1492
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 3: Of dollars one way or the other. So think about this.

1493
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: Should we remain with that?

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're going to get rid

1495
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: of the chain gang, I got something that's way more

1496
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: important than that in deciding where the ball actually is.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it when we returned.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, rich Ormburger Here

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. So Jonas was doing his show yesterday. Bo

1501
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 2: producing that show, and I thought it was an interesting

1502
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: conversation talking about this announcer for the Ravens, Jerry Zandsky,

1503
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: in this high tech world, calling out the fact that

1504
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: we still have these chain gangs.

1505
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: Bo.

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01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: I think you did a little research on how much

1507
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: these guys are paid still, what is it, seventy five

1508
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a game something like that.

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, and the crucchief gets a free season ticket as well.

1510
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 10: At some teams.

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: Oh well that's you know, some guys give more or less.

1512
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: But I mean it is pretty weird, like in this

1513
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: high tech world that we still have, you know. And

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: then they bring out the chains and then you find

1515
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 2: out you're like, you know, they stretch out. It's the

1516
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 2: dramatic stretching out of the chains, like you know, we

1517
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: see this all the time, like, oh, it looks like

1518
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: he's got it and then they stretch it out.

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: All he's short by an inch. Say that all the time.

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01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 1: Yep.

1521
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: And my thought immediately because Jonas decided, I'm old school.

1522
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: I want to just keep it the way it is.

1523
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking to myself, I'm less concerned about the

1524
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: chain gang and more concerned about where officials actually place

1525
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: a football.

1526
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: We see this all the time.

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 2: You know, how many times do they bring a new

1528
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: football into the game and then they put the ball down.

1529
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not where it went right, that's no,

1530
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm watching eyeball task. You put the ball down three

1531
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: inches away from where it was. And then when you're

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01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: measuring the ball, where do you when you put the

1533
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: ball down? Is that the nose of the ball, the

1534
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 2: middle of the ball. All of this has a major effect.

1535
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: Ultimately when you start bringing out the chains and everything else,

1536
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: are like, oh, we're one in short, gonna go for it,

1537
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: not gonna go for it. These are the kind of

1538
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: decisions that can literally make or break careers, careers, seasons,

1539
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: super Bowl championships. So in this day and age, not

1540
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: only do you not need the chain gags, but you

1541
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: could electronically accurately place the football on every single play. Yeah,

1542
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: if there was a mechanism in the football of where

1543
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: it makes contact with the field, you know, you can

1544
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: see these pile ups and everything else. Forget that we

1545
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 2: have the technology to correct this. So which way is

1546
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 2: it going to be for you?

1547
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: Rich?

1548
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: Are you going to stay old school where the human

1549
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: element is a big part of the game, or are

1550
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: you going to use the maximum technology to get it right?

1551
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 4: Well here's here's I have two thoughts that compete with

1552
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 4: each other at once. I agree accuracy is important, but

1553
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: I also want everybody to understand when you turn on

1554
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:03,520
Speaker 4: a football game, accuracy is way less important than entertainment.

1555
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 4: This is still entertainment. And if somehow that technology slows

1556
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 4: down the game to the point where these games balloon

1557
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 4: up to being a half hour longer, there's there's more

1558
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 4: discussion over the exact spot of each football if you

1559
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 4: start allowing coaches to be able to you know, challenge

1560
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 4: you know, spots more often as a result.

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01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: Of the new technology, and then you get into the

1562
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: weeds with some of the other changes that could come

1563
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: I look, I'm a fan.

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01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 4: I'm a fan first of football from the standpoint of

1567
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 4: it's it's entertainment value. I think it is the most

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01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: entertaining product on television right now, bar none. And that's

1569
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 4: above all the reality television shows everything. It's the most

1570
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 4: entertaining thing you can watch on television. If you institute

1571
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 4: this technology, I promise you it's going to slow down games.

1572
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: And that's where I'm with Jonas.

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01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: So, Yes, accuracy is important to me, and I hope

1574
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 4: they find a way to be both accurate and timely,

1575
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 4: because I don't want to sit there and sit through

1576
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 4: more ads, you know, the kind of split screen where

1577
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 4: you're watching the officials figure it out on the field

1578
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 4: while they're you know, showing you the new Chaloupa Taco Bell.

1579
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: I'm not into that, so figure it out, but figure

1580
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: it out fast.

1581
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: Oh are you a fan of what Jonah said or

1582
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 3: what do you think?

1583
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 10: I think people are gonna miss like the charm of

1584
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 10: the old school ways if we ever go fully automated.

1585
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 10: So I'm with Jonas.

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01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, the pulling of the chain. You know,

1587
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: we see it all the time, right, Oh, you got it?

1588
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

1589
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 3: No, and they beke it a little bit more, miss

1590
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 3: binanch All right.

1591
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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, John Paul Morosi's gonna

1592
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: join us talk in some MLB. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1593
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Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, our MLB insider, is going to be

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: joining us, coming up here in about sixteen or seventeen minutes.

1602
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,480
Speaker 2: I want to get back to the Olympics closing ceremonies

1603
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 2: going on right now. And you know, there are things

1604
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: that happened during the Olympics where you're just.

1605
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: Your your mind's blown.

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01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: This woman from the Netherlands that won the marathon today,

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01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: she also won bronze medals in both the five thousand

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01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: and ten thousand meter.

1609
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: In a week.

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Speaker 3: By the way, back in the nineteen fifty two Games,

1611
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: give you a little history lesson.

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01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: Here, there was a male runner named Emil Zadapek who

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: was the top five thousand meters ten thousand meter runner

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01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: in the world. By the way, five thousand meters is

1615
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: roughly three miles ten thousand and six miles. And he

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: won the double and then the last second he decided,

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01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: what the heck, I'm gonna run the marathon and he won.

1618
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: He'd never run a marathon before. So that's a three

1619
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 3: mile gold, a six mile gold, and then a twenty

1620
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 3: six mile gold.

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01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: Good lord.

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01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 2: So this woman from the Netherlands, she did. She didn't

1623
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: win three gold, but she won three medals in a week.

1624
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's sometimes you you you're owed by how

1625
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 2: far the human body can be pushed. And we see

1626
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: it in all kinds of sports, because all sports have

1627
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: you know, look I've seen you eat and I'm like, wow,

1628
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: that is it's amazing. How but I mean seriously, sometimes

1629
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: the uh these Olympic athletes, because we're constantly hearing world record,

1630
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: war record, war record, like you know, like it's commonplace.

1631
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: Like is there a limit? I mean, how far can

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01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: we go well with the human body?

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01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: And uh?

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01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 3: But just I watched her receiver gold medal and.

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01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: It just and she she admitted that throughout the race

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01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: she kept saying to herself, why did I run those

1637
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: other races?

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01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm really tired? And yeah, she pushed her body all

1639
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: the way to a gold medal.

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, why was I Why did I

1641
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: run the three mile and six mile race when I'm

1642
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 2: running a twenty six mile race.

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01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Well, I to answer your question.

1644
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 4: We know because it's been proven in nature through experimenting

1645
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 4: that you can you can force evolution a little bit.

1646
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 4: You know, evolution, if you believe in it, means that

1647
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 4: things adapt to a changing environment in favorable ways for survival.

1648
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 4: So if you have a situation where you're tasking somebody,

1649
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: an athlete, for example, with some of these feats of

1650
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 4: human strength or endurance or speed or agility that requires

1651
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 4: you know, not only tell, but a certain genetic makeup,

1652
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 4: and then that person also breeds with somebody who has

1653
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 4: similar genetic makeup. Like what happens, you know, the athletes

1654
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 4: know each other. They they run in similar circles, you know,

1655
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 4: and so many times you'll see a football player like

1656
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 4: like Christian McCaffrey who's born of two athletes, my children,

1657
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 4: My wife's a Division one volleyball player. Like you know,

1658
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 4: it it happens where sometimes you have you have these

1659
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 4: combinations that lead to you know, almost almost a better

1660
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 4: opportunity to create, to create better athletes in the future.

1661
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 4: So I I do think that, you know, the same way,

1662
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 4: you could take two tomato plants and find a way

1663
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 4: to cross pollinate and you have a more heat resistant tomato,

1664
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 4: or you have a tomato that stays riper for longer,

1665
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 4: or you have a tomato that's more resistant to insects,

1666
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 4: you know, whatever it may be. That's all genetics, and

1667
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 4: that's that's that's what happens with human populations as well.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 4: So I do think that we're going to continue to

1670
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 4: see world records smashed. I do think as science and

1671
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 4: technology helps foster better care for athletes, better nutrition, better

1672
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 4: strength training techniques, better rest techniques, better recovery techniques. Yeah,

1673
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna I don't think it ever stops.

1674
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see these world records and

1675
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 4: Olympic records.

1676
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: Be pushed and pushed and pushed. I think the human

1677
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: potential is limitless.

1678
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: Well, but some rikords do stand the test the time.

1679
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. We were watching the men's

1680
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: high jump, you know, jump off at the end. By

1681
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: the way, they both missed at seven feet nine inches.

1682
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: I know they used the metric system, but for our purpos,

1683
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: it's like seven feet nine inches. The only jumper ever

1684
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: to clear eight feet, and he did it twice, was

1685
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: the great Cuban jumper, Javier Sotomayor. He was a goal

1686
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: medalist of Barcelona ninety two. He set the record in

1687
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three. That's thirty years ago. No one's done

1688
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 2: it since, no one did it before, no one's done

1689
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 2: it since. When you look at you say bolts numbers

1690
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: nine five eight nine five eight.

1691
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: Who is ever gonna break that?

1692
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he was the perfect running machine because he

1693
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: was so long and had those let I mean, I

1694
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 2: don't know. Sometimes there is a limit and then we

1695
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: get that one special individual that just has the physical

1696
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: ability to do something that no one has ever done

1697
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: before and no one will ever do again.

1698
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: It's well, listen.

1699
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 4: I I will say this though, unless rules change like

1700
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 4: that four big players from being able to ork athletes

1701
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 4: from being able to break records because it's under a

1702
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 4: different criteria.

1703
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: I do think all records will fall over time.

1704
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 4: I mean, if you give human potential long enough, all

1705
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 4: records will be caught. And also, you know, and this

1706
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 4: is perfect timing as we welcome on JP Morosi here

1707
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 4: in a little bit to talk some Major League baseball.

1708
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: The pendulum swings back and forth.

1709
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 4: You know, we were talking about will we ever see

1710
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 4: another three hundred wins starting pitcher, because you know, they disallow.

1711
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: These starters go very deep in games.

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 4: I want to ask JP about that because Paul Skins

1713
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 4: and how he's being handled many other young pitchers who

1714
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 4: or pitchers in general.

1715
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Blake's now his whole career. How many times has he

1716
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: seen the seventh inning?

1717
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 4: You know, It's it's interesting how the pendulum swings one

1718
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 4: way really hard, and everybody thinks like, oh, geez, we

1719
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 4: got to protect these pictures arms. We got to protect

1720
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 4: these pictures arms. But then all of a sudden, the

1721
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 4: pendulum can swing back the other way, and maybe there's

1722
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: a guy who has a different arm care routine and

1723
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 4: it's not considered over exertion to push the limits of

1724
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 4: you know, your arm, and maybe we get back to

1725
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 4: a day where we do see pitchers on the mound,

1726
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, completing games and things like that. I I

1727
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 4: guess that's my point is, as long as the rules

1728
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: of the game of the competition don't fundamentally change, I

1729
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,879
Speaker 4: think the human potential is limitless to keep pushing records

1730
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 4: lower and lower and better and better, because I think

1731
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 4: human beings, over time, we get better at everything, just

1732
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 4: about everything.

1733
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 3: So that gets back to performance enhancers.

1734
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: In other words, if we're really pushing the limits on

1735
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: what the human body can do, you know, where do

1736
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: you draw the line. Well, I mean as a spectator,

1737
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: and I've had many conversations with people about this, you know,

1738
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: the idea of it's not my body, but if somebody

1739
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: else wants to do it to themselves, and you know,

1740
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: to do something that has never been done.

1741
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Before, I'm sort of for it as a spectator. And

1742
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 3: this is this is the fine line.

1743
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean again, when we talk about Olympic Games, and

1744
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about the gender controversy or

1745
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: as it turned out, I don't think as controversials.

1746
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 3: Some people try to make it out to be.

1747
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: But we've had.

1748
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 3: Cheaters. But hang on, hang on, let me let me

1749
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: write Olympic history.

1750
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Let me bring up a sport that that it is

1751
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: very obvious that.

1752
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 4: Steroid used, that that performance enhancing drugs have been involved

1753
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 4: in pretty much from from the start bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is

1754
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 4: a sport where you are seeing competitors push their body

1755
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 4: to limits that that are are frankly dangerous, you know,

1756
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 4: I mean the amount of there we've.

1757
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 3: Been a lot of them that dropped out of heart

1758
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 3: attacks at a very young age.

1759
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, organ failure, all that type stuff, you know, and

1760
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 4: it's because they're getting they're packing on all of this

1761
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 4: muscle and then they're losing a tremendous amount of weight,

1762
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 4: including water weight, so they can you know, stress their

1763
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 4: body into looking as you know, vascular and sinewy as

1764
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 4: possible even though they're massive muscular beings. That that's a

1765
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 4: really dangerous sport and it's a it's a severe commitment

1766
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 4: you got to make, and it's amazing what you're able

1767
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 4: to do, what the human potential.

1768
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: Is capable of.

1769
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 4: However, it's not a very popular sport in terms of

1770
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 4: viewership or interest, and I think it's because people look

1771
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 4: at it as cheating, even though it's difficult. Trust me,

1772
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 4: I've known a couple of bodybuilders, and the commitment that

1773
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 4: it takes to even be a bad bodybuilder or someone

1774
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 4: who doesn't rate very high is it's it's all consuming.

1775
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: It's all consuming. It's all you do, it's all you

1776
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: think about, it's every day.

1777
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: But it's not very popular because even that the person

1778
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 4: who I'm citing specifically, even he gets called the cheater

1779
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 4: by people. You know, people will slide into his DMS

1780
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 4: and tell him, yeah, like, you wouldn't be anybody if

1781
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 4: it weren't for the steroids. And it's true to a

1782
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 4: certain extent. You know, you need steroids to compete in

1783
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 4: that sport. But I think that's what diminishes people's interest.

1784
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 4: If you started allowing athletes to use performance enhancing drugs

1785
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 4: to achieve these great, great records by any means necessary,

1786
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 4: I promise you people will be less impressed by these records.

1787
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 4: I promise you they would. You need to have boundaries

1788
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 4: in order to have a game. Football needs to have

1789
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 4: end zones and end lines and sidelines.

1790
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: Otherwise it would like, I mean, what, you just play

1791
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: on an open field.

1792
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 4: You need rules, you need confines for competition to be interesting.

1793
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 4: And so that's the reason why I think performance enhancing

1794
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 4: drugs need to be limited or eliminated in order to

1795
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 4: have fair competition, because you need to create boundaries for

1796
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 4: people to be interested. Part of the interest in sport

1797
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 4: is seeing if people can compete to the best of

1798
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: their ability inside of the rules of the game.

1799
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: It's like playing checkers with a kid. You know, they

1800
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: make up their own rules.

1801
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 4: It's like you're not allowed to move two spaces just

1802
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 4: because you feel like it. Well, if everybody did that,

1803
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 4: it would be Checkers would be less interesting.

1804
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: So I think you're wrong, Steve. I think I honestly,

1805
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying.

1806
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 4: It's fascinating to see people push their limits and use

1807
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 4: performance handsing drugs. But if that were true, bodybuilding would

1808
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 4: be the top sport in the world.

1809
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: And it's not.

1810
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: Well, one guy that refuses to use PDS just to

1811
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 2: make it fair is joining us on the other side.

1812
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: That's right, John Paul Morosi, our MLB insider, will join us.

1813
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harman and rich Armburger.

1814
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from

1815
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 2: the tai iraq dot Com studios. And is indeed an

1816
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: honor for us every single week to have the good

1817
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,799
Speaker 2: fortune of sharing time with a gentleman that wears many hats,

1818
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: many and works for many people because he sought after,

1819
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: sought after, and and he does it without any ped

1820
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 2: use that I know of. Okay, there's no performance announcing

1821
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: drugs of this man. He is all natural. He knows

1822
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: it all, even if he won't admit it, but we'll

1823
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 2: say it. He is a great John Paul Morosi, JP,

1824
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Am I right that you are not not using peds.

1825
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 11: That is correct, unless one would count Italian coffee as

1826
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 11: that that could be a performance ENHANSWERB.

1827
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 1: There's no question about it, especially some of those robustos.

1828
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right. So I always found it interesting.

1829
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 2: You remember when it was who was it was a

1830
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 2: Keith Hernandez was doing something with viagra, and I'm like,

1831
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 2: isn't that a performance sciencing drug. I don't understand how

1832
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: he's getting away with that. All right, let's talk about

1833
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 2: where we are right now. You know, the trade deadline

1834
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 2: is coming gone. I know we talk about this team

1835
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: a lot, but there's a reason they spent over a

1836
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: billion dollars in the offseason on new contracts, and once again,

1837
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are fighting to keep their head atop the

1838
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: National League West right now with the red hot Padres

1839
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: on their heels and the Diamondbacks not far behind. Give

1840
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 2: us an update right now on where the Dodgers stand

1841
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 2: in terms of their pitching. Flarerday has come in and

1842
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 2: thrown a couple of really good gains for them, but

1843
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: there's still so many question marks.

1844
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 3: Are they going to get across the finish line first

1845
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 3: in the NL West?

1846
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 11: Well, see, it's an excellent question. And they are in

1847
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 11: a fight, I believe to the very end, because just

1848
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 11: in the last couple hours came the news that River Ryan,

1849
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 11: who has been one of their stars of the last

1850
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 11: month or so, an emerging rookie talent, is lost for

1851
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 11: the rest of the season. And that is that is

1852
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 11: devastating news for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Of course, he

1853
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 11: left last night's showdown with Paul Schemes early due to

1854
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 11: what they hoped was a mild injury. It is not

1855
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 11: a mild injury, and Dave Roberts just made that news

1856
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,520
Speaker 11: official here within the last couple hours. So it's anybody's

1857
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 11: division right now. I really did not think that at

1858
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 11: this stage, with this much schedule left, that I would

1859
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 11: be saying that it's a wide open race, and the

1860
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 11: Dodgers probably still have the edge in a lot of ways.

1861
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 11: They do get Mookie Betts back tomorrow in Milwaukee, so

1862
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 11: that's going to give them a huge lift. He's gonna

1863
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 11: come back and play right field, so that's at least

1864
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 11: a part of the plan. And of course Freddy Freeman

1865
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 11: has been back for a while and Showy looks like

1866
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 11: still the best hitter in the National League. But they're

1867
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 11: pitching is a massive question. They're very fortunate now to

1868
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 11: have Jack Flaherty, They're gonna need to have Stone be

1869
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 11: really consistent down the stretch. I just keep wondering about

1870
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 11: if they have enough starting depth at a time where

1871
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 11: the Podreys, who at last sec word a one run

1872
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 11: game in the ninth inning, they continue to get very

1873
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 11: good pitching the Diamondbacks, reminding everybody why they were the

1874
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 11: nash League representative in the World Series last year. So

1875
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 11: I look at this as being a wide open race.

1876
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 11: It is no longer a sure thing that the Dodgers

1877
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 11: finished first. And let's remember here this team, the Dodgers

1878
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 11: one and six in their last two postseason runs, and

1879
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 11: we'll see out what happens in October unbelievable.

1880
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,520
Speaker 4: How about the other side that matchup with Paul Skeins

1881
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 4: being I don't want to say worry sim right now

1882
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 4: as we're cruising toward the end of the season, but

1883
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 4: there have been some interesting statistical analysis done on him.

1884
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 4: His first five starts, he had fifty three pitches thrown

1885
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 4: at one hundred plus miles per hour. From starts six

1886
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 4: through ten, he only had twenty one such pitches over

1887
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 4: one hundred miles per hour. The next five games starts

1888
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 4: eleven through fifteen, only four pitches over one hundred miles

1889
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 4: per hour. He's known as the flamethrower, or it's an

1890
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 4: enormous part of his game. Is this an argument for

1891
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 4: shutting down or at very least being careful with schemes

1892
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: the rest of the way.

1893
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 11: I think so just simply because this is still a

1894
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 11: level of demands and rest that he's never had before,

1895
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 11: and now he's had high pitch counts before. I want

1896
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 11: to be clear about that. He's done that with LSU

1897
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 11: in the past. But the main difference rich between the

1898
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 11: minor league schedule and the major league schedule is the

1899
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 11: lack of off days, and Monday now is a universal

1900
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 11: off day in the minor league, so really only pitching

1901
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 11: once a week. It's similar, honestly to what the schedule

1902
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 11: is in NTB in Japan. And so I think the

1903
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 11: schemes right now, I don't think he's I don't think

1904
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 11: he's hurt. I do think he might just be now

1905
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,839
Speaker 11: you're taking the toll of the long season. It's certainly

1906
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 11: common for a lot of pitchers to have this experience

1907
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 11: of the month of August where their arm is not

1908
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 11: as lively as it's been in the past. They would not, be,

1909
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 11: in my estimation, putting him out there at all if

1910
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 11: they feel like they were jeopardizing his health. And there's

1911
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,919
Speaker 11: a lot of pitchers who when they face the Dodgers

1912
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 11: this year, would love to have a pitching line like

1913
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 11: the one he had last night, which was fixed and

1914
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 11: his four earned with eight strikeouts in only one walk.

1915
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 11: So he's still making pitches. He's maybe relying a bit

1916
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 11: more often now on the splinker that we've heard so

1917
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 11: much about during the course of the season. So I

1918
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 11: think that might be him adapting a bit more to

1919
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 11: just the demands and then getting himself through the season.

1920
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 11: And I think you raised a very good point. The

1921
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 11: Pirates are are still four games under five hundred. They're

1922
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 11: not really in the thick of the NL wild card race.

1923
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 11: They haven't been totally knocked out of it yet, but

1924
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 11: they're not exactly in the heart of it either. So

1925
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 11: I think you wait and see how the next several

1926
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 11: weeks ago, and if at some point you're seeing a

1927
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 11: real significant diminishment in the fastball quality, not just the

1928
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 11: fat basketball VLO, but the quality of its effectiveness, then

1929
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 11: maybe you really taper his workload around the middle of September.

1930
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 2: So are your favorite team, the Detroit Tigers, about to

1931
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 2: crown a new not just Saya an award winner, but

1932
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 2: a triple Crown winner for pitching.

1933
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 11: Krek Kooble. I tell you what he is special, and

1934
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 11: as we talk about what he's been able to do,

1935
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,759
Speaker 11: here so far, he right now leads the American League

1936
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 11: in strikeouts, leads the American League in era. Obviously, he's

1937
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 11: probably not going to be the wins leader necessarily, although

1938
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 11: right now he's tied with the AL lead. It's going

1939
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 11: to be a bit of a challenge because of honestly,

1940
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 11: the way the Tigers have played this season, for him

1941
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 11: to win seventeen eighteen games, maybe that's probably at about

1942
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 11: the higher level of where.

1943
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 5: He can get.

1944
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 11: Could another pitcher from a more competitive and better team

1945
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 11: get there, But I think he's got a shot, a

1946
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 11: legitimate chance. You think about pitching triple crowns being a

1947
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 11: little more common than the hitting triple crowns, that it

1948
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 11: is still somebody that you talk about for a long

1949
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 11: time when someone does it. So it would be amazingly special,

1950
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 11: and I think it would validate Steve the choice of

1951
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,839
Speaker 11: the Tigers to not trade Trek Scouoble at the deadline.

1952
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,839
Speaker 11: Scott Harris, their president of baseball operations, listen to offers

1953
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 11: from schoobl or on Schooble, for example, but obviously the

1954
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 11: Orioles were one team that was heavily involved in that,

1955
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 11: but Scott Eris kept him. I think it was the

1956
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 11: right call, and now that the Tigers may enjoy a

1957
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 11: historic finish to the year. And again, this is a

1958
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 11: good thing. And there's a reason why sometimes you keep

1959
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 11: players beyond just optimizing their value at the trade deadline.

1960
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 11: And when you think about the potential of having a

1961
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 11: pitching triple crown finishing the year strong, having some big

1962
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 11: starts at Comerica Park, people will buy tickets to watch

1963
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 11: this guy pitch because Tariff Schouoble, quite simply in this moment,

1964
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 11: is the best pitcher in Major League Baseball.

1965
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 1: JP Morosi joining us Fox Sports Radio.

1966
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 4: You know, it's finally time where we can look forward

1967
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 4: to the postseason and not sound completely ridiculous about it.

1968
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 4: The divisional races, the wildcard races. This is a little

1969
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 4: more generalized, but in general, what do you think of

1970
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 4: the changes that we saw come to baseball's postseason back

1971
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two.

1972
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: We now have had two seasons of it. Do you

1973
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: like it? They expanded wildcard?

1974
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 11: I do I do like it? It certainly. I like it,

1975
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 11: probably more rich than a lot of the heavy favorites

1976
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 11: that have been knocked out in the first rounds. The

1977
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 11: Dodgers probably fall into that category. Yeah, the Baltimore Orioles, who,

1978
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 11: of course fell to the Rangers a year ago. I

1979
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 11: think I'm okay with I'm actually good with the format

1980
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 11: because it involves more teams, it keeps more franchise as

1981
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 11: a fan base is engaged with baseball over the full

1982
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 11: sleep of the year. It still results in a more

1983
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 11: selective postseason than any other postseason in American pro sports.

1984
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 11: So I think it's still preserves, in my view, the

1985
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 11: sanctity of the regular season. If there's any takeaway, it

1986
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 11: is this building a team for the postseason is different

1987
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 11: than building a team for the regular season. And we

1988
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 11: have seen this happen the other four We always talk

1989
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 11: about a lot, of course in our conversations the National

1990
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 11: Hockey League. Look how many times you've seen seventh or

1991
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 11: eight seeds find their stand the cup finals. It is

1992
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 11: much more common in that sport than it is even

1993
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 11: in baseball. And it's because winning in the playoffs is

1994
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 11: different than winning in the regular season. And I think

1995
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 11: it's interesting to me the number of franchises that just

1996
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,679
Speaker 11: basically throw up their hands and say, listen, we're gonna

1997
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 11: build our team for the regular season and just hope

1998
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 11: that if we make the playoffs often enough, eventually we'll

1999
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 11: get to the World Series. And I'm not saying that

2000
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 11: that's the way the dodd do it, but sometimes it

2001
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 11: feels that way when you consider the way that they

2002
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 11: have had struggles to sustain their success for the regular

2003
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 11: season into the month of October. And so in my estimation,

2004
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 11: there's a lot of teams that might be frustrated about this.

2005
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 11: But we got to remember this. It's almost like two

2006
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 11: different sports. There's regular season baseball and tournament baseball, and

2007
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 11: when you get tournament baseball, and all of a sudden,

2008
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 11: your pitching changes a little bit, and the way you

2009
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 11: have to score runs changes a bit, and the lineup

2010
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 11: construction matters in a different way. It's not as though

2011
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 11: the managers can say, well, this is all surprising me.

2012
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 11: There are no surprises here. We know what playoff baseball

2013
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 11: is like. The Diamondbacks earned a passing grade last year

2014
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 11: and the Winds the Philadelphia A Phillies did not. Even

2015
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 11: though I would say the Phillies had the more talented team,

2016
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 11: it didn't matter. The Diamondbacks executed is better in the

2017
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 11: National League Championship Series, and the Diamondbacks illustrate to me

2018
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 11: that there's a reason why teams should stay engaged. There's

2019
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 11: a lot of hope and the faith through some because

2020
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 11: to get hot at the right time of the year,

2021
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 11: you can nind up playing in the last game in

2022
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 11: the season, just as the Diamondbacks to a year ago.

2023
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 2: All Right, one more final quick question for me. So

2024
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 2: back in nineteen sixty eight, the infamous year of the pitcher,

2025
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 2: Carl Yastremsky saved the American League the embarrassment of not

2026
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 2: having a single batter hit three hundred. He sneaked in

2027
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 2: with a three to zer one batting average to win

2028
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 2: the batting title that year. I'm looking at these National

2029
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 2: league averages. We could have a year where a league

2030
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have a single three hundred hitter. I mean, they're

2031
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 2: right at three hundred, three oh one, three zho two.

2032
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 2: They got like three guys and we still got a

2033
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: lot of baseball left. What kind of impact would that

2034
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 2: have if we actually had a league that went an

2035
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 2: entire season and at the end did not have a

2036
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 2: single three hundred hitter.

2037
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, Steve, I trust in our man

2038
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 11: Luis Areas. I believe that he will find a way

2039
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 11: to finish the year above three hundred. But that being said, Steve,

2040
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 11: we have had so many statistical anomalies recent years, most

2041
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 11: notably the absolutely egregious numbers of strikeouts for a long

2042
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 11: period of time, that if that kind of stuff hasn't

2043
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 11: hasn't shamed people with these batting averages under two hundred,

2044
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 11: And I'm not sure what will. I think whether it's

2045
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 11: a thousand of a percentage point one hundred differ percentage

2046
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 11: point one more or the other. I think that honestly,

2047
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 11: that that number will never be as important or as

2048
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 11: significant to players as their salary. If players are still

2049
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 11: getting paid for production and making a bunch of money,

2050
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 11: even if they're hitting two forty three or seventy or

2051
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 11: two thirty nine, whatever it might be, they're gonna gladly

2052
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 11: take that. So I think a I believe that Riyas

2053
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 11: will save them all and be even if he doesn't,

2054
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 11: I don't think that we're gonna hear a lot of

2055
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 11: teams changing course because the players themselves want to put

2056
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 11: up their power numbers and they'll take the strikeouts and

2057
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 11: low average that go.

2058
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Along with it.

2059
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what jp it is that time

2060
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 3: and Rich You're absolutely right.

2061
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 2: We can talk some postseason because we are marching down

2062
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: to the finish line here in Major League Baseball. JP

2063
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 2: is always clean as a whistle, doing the job better

2064
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: than anybody else.

2065
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 3: We always appreciate the time. JP will talk to you

2066
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 3: next Sunday.

2067
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 11: Hey, you guys are the greatest. And by the way,

2068
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 11: next Sunday, I'll be in Williamsport, PA Little League Classic.

2069
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 11: I will drive by. I'll drive by the richest Jersey number,

2070
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 11: which of course is retired there in Happy Valley. On

2071
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 11: the way home, I'll call you guys from the site.

2072
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 1: Okay, very very.

2073
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 2: Good, excellent, excellent, excellent, all right, very good. Here he

2074
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 2: is the great John PALMERROSI. Actually Rich's number is retired

2075
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 2: by his high school. That's right, Yeah, yeah, you're on

2076
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 2: full display.

2077
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: Told my high school football coach that's ridiculous.

2078
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 4: You can go ahead and just let anybody who wants

2079
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 4: to wear it wear seventy eight. It's such an ugly

2080
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 4: number anyways, and he was just like, no, no, I'm

2081
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 4: not gonna to do that. This is the house that

2082
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 4: Rich built. And while I'm flattered, I think it's really stupid.

2083
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 2: Well, I just love the shrine they have for you. Someday,

2084
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna visit that shrine and get a lot of

2085
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 2: pictures taken in front of that tril. Let's find out

2086
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: what is trending right now. Speaking of shrines, think about this.

2087
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: We have three Big Ten people all together here. Rich

2088
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,560
Speaker 2: is a Penn State guy, yep, Martin's a Michigan.

2089
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 7: Guy, that's right.

2090
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 3: And I'm a use Cla guy, just dripping with big tip.

2091
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 9: That's what they say, you know, real true history of

2092
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 9: the Big Ten right there, U CLA, Michigan, all those

2093
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 9: big rivalries.

2094
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 2: Penn State, I mean, you know, yeah, Bruins, we'd all

2095
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 2: come together.

2096
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: That's right.

2097
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 9: Well, speaking of who would have thought you see eight

2098
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 9: quarterbacks in a preseason game, That's what we saw earlier

2099
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 9: today with the Broncos and the Colts quarterbacks of note,

2100
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 9: no offense than anybody else. Sorry Jason Bean, but bo

2101
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 9: Nicks was a fifteen for twenty one, one hundred and

2102
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 9: twenty five yards, passing one touchdown. Zach Wilson played the

2103
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 9: entire fourth quarter ten for thirteen, one hundred and seventeen yards.

2104
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson only through four passes with twenty five yards,

2105
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 9: passing Joe Flacco, five passes for him, three completions, twenty

2106
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 9: eight yards.

2107
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 3: Broncos win.

2108
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 1: What is that now?

2109
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 9: Thirty four to thirty in a game that, of course

2110
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 9: nobody cares about the final score. Coming up, we have

2111
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 9: another one of these, as my friend Dave Daniship likes

2112
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 9: to call them, Civil War reenactments between the Dallas Cowboys

2113
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 9: and the Los Angeles Rams. Saw Stetton Bennett warming up.

2114
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 9: Also expected to see a lot of Trey Lance today.

2115
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 9: So we'll see what the former San Francisco forty nine

2116
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 9: and we'll do in a little bit of game action here,

2117
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 9: especially when we consider that Dak Prescott's contract is not

2118
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 9: exactly resolved.

2119
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. The Guardians lead to Twins five to one.

2120
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: In the eighth.

2121
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 3: Yankees had a five to one leading this game. Now

2122
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 3: it's eight to six over the Rangers. In the eighth inning.

2123
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 3: Astros beat the Red Sox ten to two.

2124
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 9: Dodgers right now leading the Pittsburgh Pirates two to nothing

2125
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 9: in the second inning. The Phillies lead the Diamondbacks two

2126
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 9: to one in the second. Giants with a two to

2127
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 9: one lead over the Tigers. In the second, Red's Brewers

2128
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 9: Cincinnati with a four to three lead in the ninth

2129
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 9: and the Braves have a three to two lead over

2130
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 9: the Colorado Rockies. Earlier today, the Angels meet the Nationals

2131
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 9: six to four. Also earlier today, US women's basketball won

2132
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 9: its eighth straight gold medal.

2133
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 3: They were down by ten in the third quarter ended up.

2134
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 9: Rallying back to beat France sixty seven to sixty six.

2135
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 9: Asia Wilson twenty one points thirteen rebounds as she prepares

2136
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 9: to head back to the WNBA season, where she is

2137
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 9: the presumptive favorite for MVP. The US women's national team

2138
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 9: has now won sixty six straight games at the Olympics,

2139
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 9: and Italy took home the gold and women's volleyball beating

2140
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 9: the US three sets to nine. Closing ceremonies going on

2141
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 9: right now, Steve, can you can you balance yourself on

2142
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 9: the handstand like my guy is on top of that

2143
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 9: circle right there?

2144
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 3: How many times have you tried to do that? Again?

2145
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 2: I watched these people and I questioned whether we're of

2146
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 2: the same race or whether we're the same species species?

2147
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 3: There you go, there, I know what you meant, though,

2148
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 3: how are these do these people put their pants on

2149
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 3: the same way.

2150
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: That I do?

2151
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I have.

2152
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,560
Speaker 1: No idea how they are you looking at? What do you?

2153
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 3: Guys We're watching the closing ceremonies right now.

2154
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 2: They have this big circle thing and guys are balancing

2155
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: their bodies on it and everything else.

2156
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're doing a pretty good show, either.

2157
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Of you Tube Martin er Steve been to like a

2158
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 1: cirk do Sola, I know this is.

2159
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 9: I was legit thinking Blue Man Group because they're all

2160
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 9: wearing gray Blue Man Group slash us Alay.

2161
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 2: My kids were young, we used to go to the

2162
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 2: Ringling Brothers h every year. It was like an annual

2163
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: event to take the kids to see the show.

2164
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 1: And I got into it.

2165
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 3: You know, I hadn't. I don't remember really going to

2166
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 3: the circus all that much as a kid.

2167
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 4: That's the one thing that I really do when you say,

2168
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 4: like you look at a person and you say like, yeah,

2169
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm we are not the same thing. Gymnasts When I

2170
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 4: watch would jymnasts do I mean look, I as a

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Speaker 4: former athlete and a football player, yeah, I mean move

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Speaker 4: like my job as an offensive lineman, I felt like

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean I moved people out of the

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Speaker 4: way for a living, Like that was what I did.

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Speaker 4: There's a little more nuanced and technique, but essentially what

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Speaker 4: I'm doing is big guy moved that other big guy

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Speaker 4: out of the way.

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Speaker 14: I don't think you were built for the pommel horse.

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Speaker 14: But see that's what I was about to go to

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Speaker 14: the pommel horse. Remember the nerdy guy with Lark Clark Kent.

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Speaker 14: He went super viral. He takes off the glasses, he

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Speaker 14: can't see a damn thing.

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Speaker 4: He gets on the pommel horse and he helps the

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Speaker 4: US win the was it the overall golden in gym?

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Speaker 3: That that was his only event? It was his only event, right,

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Speaker 3: and he said he got the bronze on it.

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Speaker 1: I watched that routine.

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Speaker 4: It's sixty seconds of this guy walking around on his hands.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I just what like what I mean?

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Speaker 4: If that can't my shoulder, I'd leave an arm on

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Speaker 4: on the pommel horse. I would twist an arm off,

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Speaker 4: and I would there'd be blood everywhere. Well my point

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Speaker 4: is there, would you put your two hands down on

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Speaker 4: the bomber horse and then lift your legs up parallel

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Speaker 4: to your body?

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Speaker 1: No, Steve, No, I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: You don't have enough. I think I got too much

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Speaker 3: about the ring.

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Speaker 1: Ring caboose there's way too much to me.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine the guys that do the cross, you

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Speaker 2: know on the rings where they stand their arms and

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Speaker 2: they're like, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, holding out the iron cross. Yeah, that's what they

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Speaker 4: call when they're holding the arm. I think he could

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Speaker 4: do that straight out for me. Yeah, and the whole No, No,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing. Can you imagine what my shoulders would

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01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 4: have to look like to carry a two hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty pound frame just by just by your latitimus door side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would look like a like a mythical creature.

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Speaker 9: But rich, I do gotta ask you this because you

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01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 9: got me thinking about this, right, because you see all

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Speaker 9: these gymnastics and World Strongest Man and so on and

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Speaker 9: so forth, what training camp exercise would could potentially be

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Speaker 9: an Olympic sport? My first thought was tackling sled distance push.

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Speaker 9: Oh okay, so like a sled push exactly like you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know what, Martin, You may be onto something,

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Speaker 4: because I'll tell you right now if you want, if

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Speaker 4: you want to have like a lot more interest in

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Speaker 4: some of these fringe add on Olympic activities, you start

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Speaker 4: incorporating more.

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Speaker 1: Strong man stuff, like can you imagine if how about.

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Speaker 3: One hundred meters sled push or.

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Speaker 4: How about that soon, I'm saying, Steve, yeah, tracking right,

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Speaker 4: strong man, Okay, tell me how many times it's I

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01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 4: don't know, the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: You got home from the bars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you turn on ESPN and they got the strong

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 4: and they're out somewhere in Polynesia or Southeast Asia and

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01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:04,719
Speaker 4: they're pulling tractor trailers.

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Speaker 2: Tractor trailers, they're pulling airplanes. I've seen them pull planes.

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Speaker 4: Dude, let's do the plane poll. Yeah, why are we

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01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 4: break dancing? Well, next Olympics in La we'll get them

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Speaker 4: out at LAX. I'd watched that a million times over

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Speaker 4: by Well, let's us.

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Speaker 3: Hold this thought.

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Speaker 2: I think there are a few mother sports that we

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01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 2: must consider for future Olympic Games. We'll break it down.

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Speaker 2: roster of sports in the Olympic Games. We'll break it down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Hornberger Here

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Speaker 3: We are live from the ti iraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the guys today Martin jumping in for

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01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 2: Monse today doing a brilliant job bringing this updated on

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01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 2: everything going on. A very busy final day of the Olympics.

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01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: We have preseason football, baseball, a lot of things going

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Speaker 2: on right now. Chris I got to asking out that

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Speaker 2: we are watching these closing ceremonies you've watched these Olympics.

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Speaker 2: It's part of your family history. Have we determined your

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01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 2: father has been to six or seven?

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Speaker 7: So I mean, I can't count because I'm dumb.

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Speaker 8: So let's say Munich Soul to Barcelona, Atlanta and Sydney. Okay,

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Speaker 8: los Angeles and Los Angeles eighty four eighty four. That's said, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 8: so it's ingranted, So give it. Give us a letter

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01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 8: grade for these Paris games. A hey, I have to

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Speaker 8: give it an A. Like Paris has been great scenes.

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Speaker 8: I loved the opening ceremonies. I loved everything about it,

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Speaker 8: especially on the seen. I know some people were unhappy

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01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 8: with the imagery, but whatever, those people don't understand what's

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01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 8: going on in the rest of the world sometimes, like

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Speaker 8: the events have been phenomenal. I you know, I don't

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01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 8: have as down an opinion as Brak of breaking. I

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01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 8: can understand why it's not coming back. Look, we had

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Speaker 8: no stories with Noahliles. Sleanedyon at the opening ceremony was

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 8: phenomenal too. We had no Alliles. You had Steph Curry

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Speaker 8: to talk about. You had the women's soccer team just

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01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 8: front to back. So many good, big, big stories to

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Speaker 8: come out of this, and I just I've I think

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Speaker 8: more than anything, the streaming experience has been great with

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 8: gold Zone phenomenal. So yeah, just being able to see

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Speaker 8: these all on TV have it all here has been wonderful.

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Speaker 7: I a a for me bo.

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Speaker 3: How about you? Are you sad or relieved that the

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Speaker 3: Olympics are now over?

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Speaker 10: Those are my two options?

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Speaker 1: Much Are you sad?

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01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 3: Do you want more? Or are you like, oh, finally

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Speaker 3: it's over.

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't say that I'm relieved that it's over, but

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Speaker 10: that is a very long two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Of my life.

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Speaker 7: Two weeks is just about the right amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I remember thinking, like as a kid, it felt like

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Speaker 10: the Olympics were on for an entire month and a half. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: so it's shocking to me that it's only two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 4: I actually forgot how long the Olympics lasted for, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's parts of three weeks because they started on that

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Speaker 4: Friday through the first week and.

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Speaker 1: It feels it feels like a lot of Olympics. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, I will.

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Speaker 10: Actually I will change my answer to relieved because a

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Speaker 10: lot of this stuff that has come out of this

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Speaker 10: Olympics that are not really to the athletics events themselves

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Speaker 10: have been really draining and exhausting. So I'm glad we

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Speaker 10: don't have to deal with that anymore.

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Speaker 3: So relief.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about sports.

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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting note coming up in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: eight Games in Los Angeles, the return of a sport

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Speaker 2: that hasn't been what we call an official Olympics sport

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Speaker 2: since nineteen oh eight.

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Speaker 3: And it's a sport, you know, lacrosse.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Lacrosse was only an official Olympic sport in nineteen oh

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Speaker 2: four and nineteen o eight.

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Speaker 3: It was a demonstration event.

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Speaker 2: You know, people are talking about baseball in the eighty

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Speaker 2: four Olympics in La but it was a demonstration sport.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between a demonstration sport and an actual

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Speaker 2: Olympic sport. Lacrosse was a demonstration sport in twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: thirty two, and forty eight. But lacrosse will return as

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Speaker 2: an official Olympic sport at the twenty twenty eight Olympics.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't seem weird like a sport like, well, isn't

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Speaker 2: is not an Olympic sport?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I was gonna say, isn't field hockey a sport?

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Speaker 3: It is and has been for many what's the difference.

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Speaker 4: That's my point is like, if field hockey is a

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Speaker 4: sport in the Olympics, and this isn't to denigrate field hockey,

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Speaker 4: but lacrosse should be an Olympic sport, that.

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Speaker 7: Field hockey has a much broader range. We don't really

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Speaker 7: see it.

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Speaker 8: It's mostly a women's sport in our country, but like India,

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Speaker 8: I know, was playing in like men's field hockey, whereas

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Speaker 8: a lacrosse excuse me, I think it's certain to have

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Speaker 8: more global appeal, but it's definitely a sport with deep

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Speaker 8: roots in North America itself, especially just the United States

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Speaker 8: and Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, another sport that is not an Olympic sport but

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01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 2: has been back in nineteen hundred in Paris.

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Speaker 1: Cricket.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, cricket actually was an Olympic sport during

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Speaker 2: one Olympics.

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Speaker 7: We want to see Olympic cricket test twenty format.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what are the sports are we talking about?

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01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Anyone suggestions on the future an Olympic sport.

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01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 1: I think Martin Weiss was all over it today.

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Speaker 4: I think if if we bring some strong men competitions

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Speaker 4: to the Olympics, Like can you imagine the Atlas Stone

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Speaker 4: being one up?

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Speaker 3: How about that a strongman competition?

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Speaker 8: Chris, what do you got some mixed martial arts, mixed

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02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 8: martial arts, taekwondo?

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Speaker 7: I think MMA.

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Speaker 8: At this point, we've got more than enough global fighters

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Speaker 8: to have an MMA competition.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 2: Power slap, how slap guaranteed the hottest sport in the

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Speaker 2: world right now, We're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Send Dumplin out there.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna slap the just you know what, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: slap everybody around.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Fox Sports Radio.