1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: A single best idea on a huge day for technology. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Thank you Caroline Hyde for coming in with Bloomberg Technology 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: and providing wisdom on this open AI Microsoft thing. I 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: don't pretend to get it, but it's really like it's 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: almost like a sea change day for AI. We saw 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: that with a Microsoft lift, Apple going above for trillion 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: as well in marketcap, but really really interesting that sort 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: of overwhelmed the newsflow through the day. Robert Kaplan with us, 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: a former president of the Dallas Fatties, back at GOLDBN 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: Sachs as vice chairman. Robert Kaplan, of course, on tomorrow's meeting, I. 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: Don't know they're going to be surprises. They're going to 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: cut tomorrow, they're going to announce. I would guess they're 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: going to end quantitative tightening. Those aren't surprises. I think 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: the only possible surprise is I think J Powell, I believe, 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: should leave the door open to cutting in December. The 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: markets are pricing into they're going to cut in December, 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: but he's going to want to leave some optionality just 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: in case they're getting closer to neutral. Inflation is still 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: running seventy five hundred basis points above target, so it 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: might be taken some as a little bit more independent, 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: wanting optionality, although I don't think they should be surprised 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: by that. 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: Robert Capln, the former president of a Dallas Fed, we 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: had a brilliant, extended discussion about what we're going to 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: do with the people left behind by AI. It was 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: truly one of our conversations of the year. Our conversation 28 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: in the last three years with Edward yard Denny has 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: been simple. When everyone was gloomy. Yard Denny said, corporations 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: will adapt, they will adjust, and he looked for higher 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: prices in shares of American companies. He nailed this bullmarket 32 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: and your Denny of your Denny research, the bull market continues. 33 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: I think the bullmarket continues here. We've still got some 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: good news ahead. Some of it's been discounted, of course, 35 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: but the Fed is expected to lower the Fed funds 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: rate two more times this year, so that would get 37 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: us down to three point five percent. By the way, 38 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't think the economy really needs it, so a 39 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: lot of this stimulus is probably going to feed the bullmarket. 40 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: And I'm looking for the S and P five hundred 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: to get to seven thousand by the end of the 42 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: year or by the end of the week. I mean 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: things are moving pretty quickly here, and then seventy seven 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: hundred by the end of next year. 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Your Denny there, of your Denny research, and please to 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: inform you that Max, the dog who sleeps on the 47 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: couch behind Ed, never woke up throughout the entire interview. 48 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: We hope you're awake, of course. On a podcast, it's 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: on an Apple and Spotify and a YouTube podcasts a 50 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: single best idea