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Speaker 1: Welcome back to you between the Horns. Everyone. Glad you're

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Speaker 1: with us, whether you're following live on social and digital

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Speaker 1: or you downloaded the podcast, hope you're Week thirteen is

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Speaker 1: off to a great start. I'm JB along with me

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Speaker 1: as team reporter Serena Morales and our friend Maurice Jones Drew.

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, Howard thinks, good morning, cheers, got mcffee right,

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Speaker 1: here's no coffee, just high off life right now and

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Speaker 1: your TI over here. We've got we've got a preschool

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Speaker 1: talent show underway over at the Long Household. So if

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Speaker 1: you catch a little twinkle twinkle little star, that's uh,

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on in the background. But the Rams

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Speaker 1: of five regular season games left, win out and they

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Speaker 1: win the West. That's their sole focus right now. And

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Speaker 1: before we break down Rams Cardinals in Week thirteen, the

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Speaker 1: first of two meetings here down the stretch between those

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Speaker 1: NFC West foes, let's rehash that loss to Sam Franciscos Arena. Yeah, JB,

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Speaker 1: All right, So the Rams dropped their first game at

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Speaker 1: So we know that the Rams have struggled to get things.

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Speaker 1: Going to turn the ball over four times, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that. But JD was that the sole

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Speaker 1: reason for the Rams losing, Like, was it just because

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Speaker 1: of turnovers? A turner was played a big part in it.

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Speaker 1: I felt like they just guys weren't getting open. Jared

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Speaker 1: even with the Rams not playing the best on offense,

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Speaker 1: if you don't turn the ball over, your defense has

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Speaker 1: played so lights out this season that you probably would

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Speaker 1: have won that game by fourteen points if you'd just

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Speaker 1: punted the ball. Aways had to turn the ball over,

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Speaker 1: giving them a short field. So I truly believe that offensively,

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Speaker 1: they just got to get back in rhythm. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is, what's going on, what the

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Speaker 1: issue has been. Maybe it's just that the Niners know

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Speaker 1: them and they know what they try to do, and

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Speaker 1: they play You play each other twice and they're built

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Speaker 1: to beat you and you're built to beat them. But

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Speaker 1: the Rams, you know, you have to execute at a

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Speaker 1: higher level. I think Sean McBay would said it best.

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Speaker 1: When you just can't turn the ball from we have

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Speaker 1: to execute better offense with the defense scores a touchdown

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Speaker 1: and they cause three turnovers as well. You just have

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Speaker 1: to give your defense an opportunity to continue to help

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Speaker 1: you win games for sure. And it's interesting I put

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Speaker 1: this from next Gen Stats, but like golf, sufficiency on

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Speaker 1: play action passes has dropped significantly since the Rams week nine.

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Speaker 1: By one through eight, you know, golf has six passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: zero interceptions, a one hundred and fifteen point seven passer rating,

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Speaker 1: and then you kind of go into week ten and forward,

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Speaker 1: no passing touchdowns, three interceptions, a very drop, a big

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Speaker 1: That being said, you spoke about defense, JB. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it seems like at least the defense has carried this team.

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Speaker 1: But can they keep that going for the next five games?

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Speaker 1: No question, the big ship worthy they can take this

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Speaker 1: we know that they've been phenomenal, and they hope they

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Speaker 1: don't have to see Deebo Samuel and the Niners again

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Speaker 1: because honestly, that's kind of been the key to unlocking

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Speaker 1: them defensively. So if they don't have to navigate that

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Speaker 1: matchup again, I think they're in great shape. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: some historical success. I think they're uniquely equipped to take

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that matchup a little bit later on,

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Speaker 1: but I think last week was maybe an example of

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Speaker 1: one too many times, sooner or later, no matter how

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't just the turnovers. In fact, the turnover strange.

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Speaker 1: They weren't as costly against the Niners as you might

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Speaker 1: have expected. To Pick six was the exception to that rule.

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Speaker 1: But certainly, if you punted a little bit better before

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Speaker 1: We'll see whether or not that's the case again this week.

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Speaker 1: But having Ocronquo, who was one of their best pass

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Speaker 1: rushers when he suffered that elbow injury at Washington as

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Speaker 1: a big lift. See what Derrek Rivers offers them a

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Speaker 1: the back end of this Cardinals game on Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: But let's turn our attention back to Jared goth And

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Speaker 1: it's been puzzling and I think it's challenging for McVeigh

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Speaker 1: as a game planner now to see two really puzzling

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Speaker 1: wins over Seattle and Tampa Bay. Maurice, if you're in

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Speaker 1: that offensive room, what are you doing going to Arizona?

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Speaker 1: Are you treating and trusting Jared Goff as that Pro

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Speaker 1: the game plan a little bit to try and win

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Speaker 1: with some other phases and elements. You know, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: to ask that question because I think anytime you struggle,

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Speaker 1: you want to go back and you want to work

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Speaker 1: on whoever that person that struggles with strengths, not their weaknesses. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff is a great He throws the ball really

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Speaker 1: Joseph their deepensive coordinator is a very aggressive guy. They're

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Speaker 1: where Jared was like he'd play action fake, whip around

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Speaker 1: And the second thing I think they do, and you

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Speaker 1: option routes in the slot. That's where they've excelled. If

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Speaker 1: thing is this for Jared, you can't dial in on

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Speaker 1: You have to be you have to allow the defense

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Speaker 1: when they you would just throw it accurately in on

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Speaker 1: I think for Jared golf than it was arm or

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Speaker 1: we're on the golf course, JB. The one time we're

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Speaker 1: I started to press a little bit and they started

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Speaker 1: it's more is getting back comfortable, being more relaxed, and

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Speaker 1: understanding that you still are a very good quarterback in

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Speaker 1: this league. You're just hitting a rough spot in your career.

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Speaker 1: Sorry interrupt, but let me follow up on that point,

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Speaker 1: because what I saw from San Francisco was the way

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Speaker 1: up those throwing windows to attack between the numbers. Do

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Speaker 1: they need to get vertical more? Because what I sense

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Speaker 1: from Robert Sala and the San Francisco forty nine ers is, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if you can beat us on the perimeter, if you

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Speaker 1: can beat us to the sidelines, great, But I get it.

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Speaker 1: They're uniquely equipped with their safeties, their linebackers, their corn

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Speaker 1: certain situations to stretch the field and then allow Robert Woods,

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Speaker 1: get what I need to get. But again, it's it's

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Speaker 1: The Niners had a great game plan coming in and

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Speaker 1: they've just executed it better than the Rams executed there.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's part of it. But you be

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Speaker 1: next week. It was zero pressure and all these things

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Speaker 1: had to have an answer for it. From the sea

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, You're gonna have to have an answer

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Speaker 1: now for what was to come from what the Niners

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who's been better than ever this year. He's

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Speaker 1: that dual threat quarterback. We talked about quite a bit,

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Speaker 1: him in the run game because he's on pace for

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Speaker 1: nearly a thousand rushing yards fifteen rushing touchdowns. Keet this.

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Speaker 1: Only Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, and Antonio Gibson have more

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Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns than quarterback Kyler Murray. Yeah. Well, this is

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Speaker 1: the thing with Kyler Murray. I kind of got some

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Speaker 1: people on Twitter got upset with me when I said this.

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Speaker 1: All that running and all that stuff it sounds good,

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Speaker 1: as we close out our show. Jab, I'm gonna start

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