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Speaker 1: Oh, good time of Steve Tasper done such down touch

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Speaker 1: downs do time. Welcome to One Bills Live. It's a

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Speaker 1: gorgeous day out of Norchard Park. A little cloudier today,

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Speaker 1: but man, the place looks great. It's warm summertime or

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Speaker 1: loving it coming in starting at the noon hour. We'll

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Speaker 1: be here till three. Steve Tasker here One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive along with Chris brown Brownie's great

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Speaker 1: to have you in this. And you were busy yesterday?

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Speaker 1: You know I was over here breaking rocks with a

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Speaker 1: hammer by myself yesterday. Yeah, I'm sorry about that, but

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Speaker 1: yeah I was. I was running around even even had

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Speaker 1: to do an early segment with the morning show on

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Speaker 1: your um. But then, dude, I have so many loose

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Speaker 1: ends to tie up on the home front before training

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Speaker 1: camp starts. I cannot even describe, Like what's your list

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Speaker 1: look like? Is it like around the house outside the

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Speaker 1: house or is this like paper piles and mayo? You

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Speaker 1: gotta go through mostly outside the house because I gotta

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Speaker 1: get it to a point where I can leave it

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Speaker 1: for two weeks and be okay. Not to mention the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's an additional week that I'm just flat

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Speaker 1: out gonna be in the Carolina. Oh yeah, we're gonzo

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Speaker 1: with the joint practices. Right, well, we'll all be down.

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Speaker 1: I just had a conflict pop up because of that.

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Speaker 1: We you know, that came down the thing and now

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Speaker 1: like oh oh oh yeah, you know what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be in? Uh, where are we going? Starksville, Carolina? Where

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Speaker 1: is this place? Spartansburg. We're gonna Spartanburg, South Carolina, which

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Speaker 1: is where Clemson and Wafford College are. Clemson's it's spartans Spartanburg. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they have their own specific town, but it's

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Speaker 1: near Spartanburg. It's like sister cities. It's relatively and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be there. And because of that, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: gone like five days, right, big road trip for the boys.

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Speaker 1: Leave Monday. Sounds fun. Leave Monday home in the wee

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Speaker 1: hours of the morning, right Friday, Right, so it sounds

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Speaker 1: like all fun and games. Broken it down there. We

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Speaker 1: worked for three hours in the afternoon, YadA, yadaya and

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Speaker 1: all that. Steve just all Now, all I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: is this. We are gonna melt. I know, because it's

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Speaker 1: like I just I just came from there last week

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Speaker 1: because I visited family in Charleston, which is which is right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna tell you it's brutal, the heat

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Speaker 1: and humidity. It is stupid. It's stupid. The we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be out on the side, Steve. We're gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines in golf shirts like this, you know, observing

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Speaker 1: the action, not running around just standing there. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you right now, Steve, I'm gonna have to wear an

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Speaker 1: undershirt to soak everything up. Otherwise I'm going right through

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Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah. It's because it is gonna be because

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Speaker 1: I gotta have a hat on, because I've got no

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Speaker 1: coverage up here. I'm gonna go well, yeah, because otherwise

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get some strong can get sunstroke. Forget about sunburn,

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Speaker 1: all that sun. You say what you want, it's dangerous hot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why. I mean, you're gonna be going through,

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Speaker 1: will be drinking, you know, leaders and leaders. That's why

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Speaker 1: everybody down there does what we do up here in

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Speaker 1: the winter. They're inside from nine to seven. You can

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Speaker 1: say what you want. It's just I like it better

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Speaker 1: here obviously, And I had I had talked to Brandon

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Speaker 1: planning for these joint practices, And he said, look, we

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Speaker 1: same thing. Dallas is like dangerous hot too. Although it's

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Speaker 1: now it's not different than the old Texas Staateum. The

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Speaker 1: old Texas Stadium was an oven. Yeah, it's basically right three.

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Speaker 1: But there was a measure of intent to get the

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Speaker 1: We gotta go down there and live in it. And

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Speaker 1: we were like, like, that's it. It's a roady. We

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Speaker 1: jump in the truck and drive right to the airport,

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Speaker 1: um not with John Murphy driving the car. That's another

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Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy. He loves to drive, phil I know,

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Speaker 1: like he's a lot, Like that's fine, he's a lot

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Speaker 1: like mister Pugoula mister Boulah loves drive. If if there's

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Speaker 1: loves to drive, would rather drive. And it makes sense

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Speaker 1: probably worth it to drive because door to door in

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Speaker 1: cheap is that? Though? Well, I just wonder how they're

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Speaker 1: going to be marking the lands in the air. That's what.

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Speaker 1: Ain't no lanes in the air, baby, let's go. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I almost I had to stop myself from raising my hand.

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Speaker 1: But so we're Steve Tasker and Chris Brown were one

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Speaker 1: But it's almost too much of a great thing here

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's like this in Rochester

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Speaker 1: And it's also because of the crowded nature of the weekends.

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Speaker 1: a pond guy. Well, I know you told me about that,

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Speaker 1: need the Misses calony on the phone saying we have

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Speaker 1: a green pool? What did you fail to do? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? That's right. So that's it leads

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Speaker 1: us to that is not our Twitter poll, No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: What happened is over the overnight word got out about

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Speaker 1: thing said. Melvin Gordon came into the league in two

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Speaker 1: His best year was two years ago in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: agents cash their checks when Leveon Bell signs them. Levion

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Speaker 1: Bell is responsible for what he's doing with his career

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Speaker 1: and holding out when he wants to hold out those Nobody,

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Speaker 1: Nobody should put it on their agent for getting bad advice,

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Speaker 1: because if you're man enough to understand what they're saying,

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Speaker 1: you're man enough to figure out to fire them. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. So don't ever think a player, don't

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Speaker 1: ever blame the agents for what happens to a player.

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Speaker 1: That guy works for the player and the agent. Now

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Speaker 1: you can say this, the agent probably did go to

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Speaker 1: Levion say hey, this is a good deal. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're doing, and the player can just be

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Speaker 1: In this case, that's exactly what he did. He said, no,

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Speaker 1: he goes it's it's principle of the thing I want

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Speaker 1: to do. It's important to me to do this and

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Speaker 1: this and this, and the agent at that point it's

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Speaker 1: got to say, okay, I don't advise it, but will

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Speaker 1: do what you want to do. Let's go. And then

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Speaker 1: he jumps on board and does the best he can

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Speaker 1: for his player. But the player is the guy who

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Speaker 1: makes the call. The player is the guy who makes

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Speaker 1: the call for his career, no matter how stupid or

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Speaker 1: how businesslike it is, no matter what, the player is

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Speaker 1: the guy responsible. You can say what you want about

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Speaker 1: the agents, those guys are not They are not responsible

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Speaker 1: and they're not to blame for stupid mistakes that players make.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing to consider too. Levion Bell throughout

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Speaker 1: most of his early career has been relatively healthy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't missed a lot of time on the field,

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Speaker 1: and yet he still was factoring injury into the equation.

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Speaker 1: We just heard the Melvin Gordon sound. He clearly factors

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Speaker 1: injury into the equation, knowing the position that he plays,

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Speaker 1: and he has also missed time due to injury in

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Speaker 1: his first four years in the league. So while I

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Speaker 1: completely respect that to have a running back with the

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Speaker 1: mindset that, I'm not just and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon's parameters are for what he expects to get

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Speaker 1: in your second contract. Nobody knows that, maybe except him

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Speaker 1: and his agent. But if he is going to take

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Speaker 1: a similar approach to the kind of money he expects

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Speaker 1: from the Chargers organization that trump's the top of the

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Speaker 1: running back pay scale, to go above and beyond that,

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Speaker 1: he is out to lunch and he is going to

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Speaker 1: be sitting and he is going to be watching because

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Speaker 1: there is no NFL team in football that is going

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Speaker 1: to give him money that goes beyond the pay scale

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Speaker 1: of the running back position. It's stupid to do it.

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Speaker 1: And even Adam Gaze, Adam Gaze was totally against the

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Speaker 1: Levion Belt, not that he didn't he didn't even approach

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Speaker 1: the Steelers money offer, which didn't which didn't mean that

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Speaker 1: he didn't like Levion Bell as a player. He just

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Speaker 1: thought they're paying too much for the guy, and it

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Speaker 1: was way less than the Steelers were given him now

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Speaker 1: offered him. Now, we don't have time to get into

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Speaker 1: it now in this opening segment here, but there is

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Speaker 1: a flip side of this coin that is interesting to consider,

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Speaker 1: and of all people, it was brought up by Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: and we can get into that, you know, maybe in

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Speaker 1: the next segment a little bit later in the show,

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Speaker 1: because there is a flip side of the coin to

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Speaker 1: this in terms of the money being handed out to

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Speaker 1: running backs, knowing the potential revenue streams that could be

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Speaker 1: sitting down the line here for the NFL. But we

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Speaker 1: should probably get to the tweet sheet first. Right here

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Speaker 1: we go. This is Moving Systems, the official movers of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What's the future of the feature NFL

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Speaker 1: running back? We had a lot of feedback on it,

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Speaker 1: first from Tiffany the Patriots featuring Sony Michelle ran the

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Speaker 1: Rams off the field to win the Super Bowl. He

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Speaker 1: was a huge part of their success the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season and throughout the playoffs. The Rams not

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Speaker 1: giving Girly, not having Girly healthy most likely cost them

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. A stud running back is essential, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's from Tiffany, This is from Josh the pot. The

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Speaker 1: position will always be a part of the game. But

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Speaker 1: there's a double edged sword when it comes to second contract.

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Speaker 1: Is the running back a valued leader in the building?

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Speaker 1: And how productive is he? The answer to that is

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Speaker 1: what can make them easily replaceable? And there's right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a production side of it, there's the intangible side

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Speaker 1: of it, and there's also the devaluation or your ability

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Speaker 1: to win or replace him. How big is the dropoff

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Speaker 1: going to be from your guy that you drafted. Let's

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Speaker 1: say in three years you've got Devin Singletary, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, he busts loose and his second and third

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Speaker 1: year has a thousand yards rushing in the second and

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Speaker 1: third year after backing up Gore and McCoy this year

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Speaker 1: and he comes out and emerges as a thousand yard back,

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Speaker 1: why do you give him a second contract not draft

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Speaker 1: another guy in the third round? And here's the other

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Speaker 1: thing too, with that, Steve, as it pertains to the

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Speaker 1: Bills specifically, who's coming up also for their second contract

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Speaker 1: around that point in time. Josh Allen. Yeah. And so

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Speaker 1: if you have a franchise and Twmaine Edmunds, if you

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Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback who's getting twenty five, twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight million dollars a year, are you

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Speaker 1: paying a running back on his second contract? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's to me, that's putting bad money out out there

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Speaker 1: when you have a major commitment already and a good

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Speaker 1: portion of the salary cap on the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball dedicated to the guy who's pulling the trigger

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Speaker 1: on every play. I got you. So if you can

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Speaker 1: replace him with a running back on a rookie deal

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Speaker 1: at a far more palatable salary, you're gonna do that

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Speaker 1: ten times out of tag. I just think may and

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Speaker 1: maybe we're overstating it, but I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: question that at this point in history, running backs are

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Speaker 1: easier to come by than what franchise quarterbacks, than pass question,

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Speaker 1: than corners. Even certainly the safety a great safety, there's

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Speaker 1: only a handful of it's less than ten of those

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Speaker 1: in the league. Right, I don't know. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: moving towards the easily replaceable column in our Twitter poll. Today.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break Steve Tasker Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown on One Bills Live. We've got Steve Palazzolo from

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus coming up later in the show. We've

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Speaker 1: got more on the Twitter question as well. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve

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Speaker 1: task along with Chris Brown where One Bill's Drive an

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park here across from New Era Field. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the feature running back in that position in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Is it is it here to stay?

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Speaker 1: Is it gone for good? Is it changing beyond recognition.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of the stuff flying around that would

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Speaker 1: tell you that all those things are true at the

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Speaker 1: per current moment, which is why we bring the question up.

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Speaker 1: You've got running backs who really are what the old

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Speaker 1: time running backs used to be. You know, guys like Eric,

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Speaker 1: like Adrian Peterson, Ezekiel Elliot's playing that role, se Quon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: You've got Todd Gurley eight, you know. So you've got

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Speaker 1: some guys who were carrying the ball a lot. You

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Speaker 1: only had one guy in the entire league who carried

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Speaker 1: it over three hundred times last year. That was Ezekiel Elliot.

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Speaker 1: And we've had a conversation about how hard are guys

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Speaker 1: like that to replace? I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: evidence to say that says, hey, they're not that hard,

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Speaker 1: and you really, you're crazy financially for your team to

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Speaker 1: give a guy like that a second contract, which in

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Speaker 1: my estimation puts the whole league in a spot where

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Speaker 1: if that was the case. You know, running backs, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason their careers are short, well right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they take up most theos, a lot of pounding. There

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Speaker 1: are exceptions, Lashawn McCoy being one of them, a guy

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Speaker 1: that never really takes giant hits just by the nature

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Speaker 1: of his elusive style, and there are others like him,

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Speaker 1: And then you have others who buck the trend, buck

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Speaker 1: the odds. Adrian Peterson is the example there. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's he going into is eleventh twelfth year, twelfth year

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Speaker 1: in the league and he's still productive. Frank Gore is

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Speaker 1: another guy who, even with a physical running style, has

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Speaker 1: defied the odds as well. But those are not the norm.

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Speaker 1: Those are the exception, and the vast majority of bell

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Speaker 1: Cow running backs usually kind of loose steam by age

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, and that's gonna be probably at the tail

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Speaker 1: end of your second contract, and there are teams out

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Speaker 1: there that say, yes, I will pay top dollar to

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Speaker 1: have this guy from age twenty four to twenty eight after,

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Speaker 1: you know, which is why we see a lot of

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Speaker 1: running backs leave college early to get their career started

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Speaker 1: as soon as possible when their aged twenty one season,

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Speaker 1: you know, so at the end of their first contract,

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Speaker 1: they're still twenty four to twenty five years old, and

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Speaker 1: they can get that big second contract and still be

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Speaker 1: productive and make it a value that some teams will say, yes,

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Speaker 1: I will make that investment. Yeah, why would you carry

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Speaker 1: the ball two hundred times for you know, Arkansas State? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, carry it two hundred fifty times for those

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Speaker 1: guys for essentially for an education for free. Or you

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Speaker 1: could carry it two hundred and fifty times your senior

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Speaker 1: year as a rookie running back in the set your

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Speaker 1: family up for life, and yeah, and hit it out

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Speaker 1: of the park and make seven figures. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: no contest, and I think you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Eli, who's kind of the poster boy for this up.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a huge question the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: gonna have to answer. Now. I think count the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: speaking organizationally and Jerry Jones, I think they'll pay him, right,

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Speaker 1: I think because I think they don't do that's just

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Speaker 1: what they do. I think it's crazy. But yeah, this

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Speaker 1: his third year. Last year was his third year sixteen

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Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen twenty and sixteen twenty seventeen eighteen. He's

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Speaker 1: got eight hundred and sixty eight touches carries in the league,

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Speaker 1: so four for four thousand yards. Three years, four thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. He's a dynamite player. He only

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Speaker 1: didn't he didn't have a thousand yards in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: because of the suspension, and his cap figures seven point nine.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like he's making nothing, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's making respectable money. Is the fourth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: His entire contract is guaranteed rookie rookie contract, you know.

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Speaker 1: But here's the interesting thing that I saw on Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk because Dak Prescott had an interesting take on

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Speaker 1: all this. Now, Prescott's up for an extension, right, Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Elliot's up for an extension, and Amari Cooper, their number

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Speaker 1: one wide receiver, is up for an extension because they're

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Speaker 1: all twenty fifteen draft class. So what you have here

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Speaker 1: is Dak was kind of asked about the situation. How

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Speaker 1: is it all going to work for the Cowboys with

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Speaker 1: their top receiver, their top running back, and their top

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Speaker 1: quarterback all in line for giant money extensions. And Dak's

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Speaker 1: take was this, which I thought was relatively interesting because

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Speaker 1: he actually had some reasoning behind it instead of saying, oh, wow,

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Speaker 1: we'll all get paid. He had some reasoning behind it

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Speaker 1: because what he said was for somebody to say, you

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Speaker 1: can only take so much because of the salary cap,

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Speaker 1: or you can only do this or do that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's fair to say. This was an

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Speaker 1: interview he had with USA today. He said, with gambling

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Speaker 1: and everything going on going into this league, everything is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to keep going up in terms of

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Speaker 1: the revenue streams. So he says, it's important for all

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Speaker 1: these guys to get every bit of their worth. I

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Speaker 1: want to see Zeke be the highest paid, to Malay

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Speaker 1: be the highest paid, and I want myself to be

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Speaker 1: up there, and I don't think that's too far fetched

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Speaker 1: for all of us to get that in Dallas. He said,

638
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when it's all said

639
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: and done a year or two later, we're not gonna

640
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: be the highest paid guys anyway. That's just the way

641
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: the game goes. So he's of the opinion that steps

642
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: can be made to take care of all three of

643
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Speaker 1: those guys in Dallas long term. Now, the most interesting

644
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Speaker 1: part of his comments, Steve, is where gambling, which is becoming,

645
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, acceptable and approved as legal in several states.

646
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, states are running through the legislative doors to

647
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Speaker 1: get these things established as legal. New Jersey has already

648
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: done it. There's been a host of other states that

649
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: are that have it either on the table or in

650
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: the process of being legalized. You can't tell me the

651
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: FELL isn't going to be getting a piece of that

652
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: action from a revenue stream perspective, because it's their product

653
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: that's largely being gambled on. So if there comes a

654
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: point in time here where the NFL gets a piece

655
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: of all of these states gambling revenue because it's their

656
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: sport that's being bet on, more than any other, and

657
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: they'll have the statistical evidence to back it up. Maybe

658
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: there is money to pay a feature running back on

659
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: his second contract, and because they're making so much hand

660
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: over fist that throwing away ten million a year on

661
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: a running back isn't such a big deal. Well, yeah,

662
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: I get all of that, and you're right, and there

663
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: may be more money coming in and more, but you know,

664
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Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna go can you imagine what? Yeah, so

665
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna go up as a byproduct to that.

666
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: Here's one thing that everybody misses in this whole salary

667
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: cap industry, in this whole salary cap scenario. First tell us, Steve,

668
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: what are they missing? It doesn't matter what the numbers are.

669
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: What it matters is what everybody else is making in

670
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: that league. What it matters is if not because right out,

671
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: because right now the numbers. If you told if it

672
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago and the numbers were what they

673
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: are now, the running back would be saying, I wish

674
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: I could make Ezekiel Elliot's rookie contract, and that would

675
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: have been a guy like Adrian Peterson. That would have

676
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: been a guy like for heaven's sakes, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders,

677
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: those guys. It's all. It doesn't matter. So because for

678
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: the money you're talking about equel making. Now, this same

679
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: situation is going to come up again with another team

680
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: and it's going to be the same concept in different numbers.

681
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: So the concept is going to be the same. What

682
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: it boils down to is how big a piece of

683
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: the pie are these positions gonna get. It's not about

684
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: the exact numbers. It's about being able to pay this

685
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: guy and this guy, and that guy and that guy

686
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: and three other guys. That's the problem. And if you're

687
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Speaker 1: gonna talking about percent of the salary cap here for

688
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: your running back, whether if your feature running back, what

689
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: portion of the salary cap should he gobble up? Am

690
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: I am I hearing? You're right? Yeah? Yeah? And you

691
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: know where do you think that should be? Where? Where

692
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: should the percentage fall? You gotta put you have a

693
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Speaker 1: feature back like Lashawn McCoy, David Johnson and Arizona Levion Bell,

694
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: what percentage of the cap should you devote to them?

695
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: What's reason There's a couple of questions you got to

696
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: answer about every one of those teams. Do they have

697
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: a franchise quarter they have a franchise quarterback. Would they

698
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: be as good without him? Would they be almost as

699
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: good with a guy making a tenth of the money.

700
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: And could they spend the other nine tenths of that

701
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: money on three other guys that would make him even better? Right,

702
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: all of that has to be weighed. Now, if you've

703
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: got a guy like Ezekiel Elliott. To me, and I'm

704
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: saying that, I know, I'm kind of talking out of

705
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: both sides of my mouth here and we're talking about Dallas,

706
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Dak Prescott is as important that offense

707
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: as Zeke. I think Zeke is the engine of that

708
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: offense down there. I think Zeke could be the most

709
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Speaker 1: important running back to his team in the NFL. Is

710
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: not the most important quarterback in the NFL, even to

711
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: that team. But but again, we're gonna go back to

712
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: this argument. Who's easier to replace? That's right, I don't know,

713
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: see Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's easier, Sure, Dak, let me talk.

714
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's easier to replace than Drew Brees, than than

715
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, than Philip Rivers, than Ben Roethlis. There's a

716
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: big list. Yeah, there is the question. Because because as

717
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: it pertains to the Cowboys, what we're asking is is

718
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: it harder to replace Dak or harder to replace Zeke? Oh,

719
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: it's much easier to replace Zeke. Yeah. Well, I don't

720
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: question that. The Cowboys aren't. Here's the thing, I don't know.

721
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I can't say that. Now. Let me think about it,

722
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: because Zeke had that one year with fourteen hundred yards

723
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: and they had like these, they had six cows form

724
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and they were huge. Right. But here's but Steve, you

725
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: have to think about it. This is an in the

726
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: vacuum decision as far as the Cowboys are concerned. I

727
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: get it. Du Are can we more easily replace our

728
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: friend chis running back? Or are is it easier to

729
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: replace our franchise quarterback? Because whatever you because the Cowboys

730
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: clearly think Dak Prescott is a franchise quarterback, whether you

731
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Right, So, if you're the Cowboys GM,

732
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: you're Stephen Jones, Oh, I get it. If I'm if

733
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: I think he's the guy. If I thought Dak Prescott

734
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Speaker 1: was Ben Roethlisberger or Rivers or one of those, or

735
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Speaker 1: Breeze Brady, if I thought he was one of those guys, absolutely.

736
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott gets kicked to the curb. Yes, but just

737
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: because you think he's a second tier quarterback and not

738
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: in the elite five and not in the elite five

739
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can easily replace him because he's in

740
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: the second tier. I mean, how many teams around there

741
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: still scrambling around? Look at Denver, Brownie. I think that's

742
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: exactly what it means. I'd rather have Joe Flacco than

743
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. You would, yes, Oh, he throws the ball better, man,

744
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Dad can do some things out of

745
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: the party, and there's something nobody throws it like Joe

746
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: who on the free agent market and you think you

747
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: can get You couldn't think about this last eighteen months, Brownie.

748
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: He had Kirk Cousins, you had Joe Flacco, you had

749
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Joe Flacco has been one of the lowest

750
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: rated quarterbacks all those seasons. But all those guys are

751
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: the same guy's Dak. I mean they're all You're not

752
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: telling me Dak because he's twenty five twelve helps, it does,

753
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: but that just means you get more years of mediocrity.

754
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: M to me, Okay, Dak Prescott is Andy Dalton than

755
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Dak Presco. I don't think I could go there. Now

756
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: you're killing I'd rather have Andy Dalton than here Scott.

757
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: Here's my point. Where do you have Matt Stafford on

758
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: your quarterback list? Where is he like? Good? Is he

759
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: like six to ten, ten to twelve sixties? Certainly in

760
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: the top twelve? Okay? They paid him twenty five million

761
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: a year. Why because it's in the top ten quarterbacks.

762
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to replace. Top third. He's damn hard to replace.

763
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: And and I think he's as dad. Would you give

764
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: Dak top half of the league quarterback fifteen sixteen, I'd

765
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: give him, uh, I'd give him twelve to twenty money. Okay,

766
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: but that's you know, that's twenty two million dollars. If

767
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: he takes well, yeah, twenty two, I'd pay him twenty two.

768
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: That's nothing. Tyrod Taylor made eighteen, but I'm paying him that.

769
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you're talking about thirty for the

770
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Speaker 1: top guys. It pertains directly to the Cowboys. If you

771
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: got a pick between Dak and Zeke, you're taking Zeke

772
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: because you think he's more valuable to the team. And

773
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: that's that's a legitimate reason. But then I'm thinking, now

774
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you don't have Dak, who are you going with? Who's

775
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: pulling the triggers? Another part about that, we're gonna take

776
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: a break. But here's another aspect of this that just

777
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: occurred to me. I'll listen. One reason you'd take Dak

778
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: instead of Zeke is because Zeke is going to be

779
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: used up in another two years. Yeah, Dak won't be

780
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: right and he doesn't mind a twenty one year old

781
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: in the draft, right who can do everything that Zeke

782
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: does behind that line. For the most part, that's a

783
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: good point too. At rookie money, that's right, I get it. No,

784
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Speaker 1: when you're paying franchise cord down, this is I'm gonna

785
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna choose. I'm like a dog with a bone

786
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: right now. I'm leaving up on this. They're still meet

787
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: on it too. Chris Brown is Steve Task. We're gonna

788
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: have Steve Palazolo from Pro Football Focus on. Later in

789
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: the show. We're taking your calls and what the future

790
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: of the feature NFL running back is it is and

791
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: it's coming up going and in that in the next

792
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: segment here, I am going to give you the percentages

793
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: of the salary cap that the top paid running backs

794
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: in the league are gobbling up. I think the numbers

795
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: will surprise you, and I think the teams will not

796
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: surprise this because I'll bet you there's not too many

797
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: of them that are that are winning. Maybe not shall

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Speaker 1: except for maybe La. Right, all right, One Bill's Live

799
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll

800
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve

801
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Speaker 1: Tasking on with Chris brown MURKHS still on vacation and

802
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: he'll be back Monday. We've got we're talking about this

803
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: topic today and we and you know, it seemed fairly

804
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: innocuous at the outset. Now Brownie and I are in

805
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: a heated discussion about the value of running backs and

806
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: we're getting We're spend a lot of time on Zeke

807
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: because he's a young guy on his first contract. He's

808
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: making okay money. He's like, what five five point nine

809
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: or is it more than that? Well, his cap number

810
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: is seven point seven point nine cap number. It's all

811
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Speaker 1: guaranteed as a rookie's on his first year deal. He's

812
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: been used extensively by the Cowboys as in there may

813
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: not be as much left in his gas tank of

814
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Speaker 1: some of the other guys. So we're having this big conversation.

815
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: We're also talking to you at home. What the future

816
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: of the NFL, of the feature NFL running back? What

817
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: is that future? And there's some choices for you on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You can call us at eight h three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Now Brownie has got some percentages he thinks, right. So,

821
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Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people say, and

822
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: we heard this here this offseason with Lashawn McCoy's cap figure,

823
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, and people are speculating around the nation. You know,

824
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: national writers are speculating, oh, you know, big cap figure

825
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: for McCoy, maybe they should get rid of that. And

826
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Speaker 1: what's his cap figure? Well, his cap figure this year

827
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Speaker 1: is just over nine million. It's nine point zero five.

828
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Speaker 1: And people are he's on paint, but they're only they're

829
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: only they'd save like six point seven if they cut him, right. Yeah,

830
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere around there. But beyond that, people say,

831
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Speaker 1: oh my god, that's a giant number for a thirty

832
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: one year old running back. Now, the reason the Bills

833
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: can handle that is because they're in a favorable cap

834
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: situation right now, they don't need to save that money

835
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: because they need the production, right They want the production,

836
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: and they still trust that Lashaw McCoy can provide that

837
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: production with a better offensive line. So while that all

838
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: makes sense, people say, ah, it's still so cost prohibitive.

839
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Speaker 1: He's gobbling up so much of the cap. Do you

840
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: know how much of the cap that he's gobbling up?

841
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Let me get Probably it's nine million, I'd say five percent,

842
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: it's four and a half percent. Yes, he has the

843
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: third highest cap figure in the league amongst running backs

844
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Speaker 1: and he's only kicking up four and a half percent

845
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: of the cap David Johnson, who has the highest cap

846
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: figure in the league among running backs nine and three

847
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: quarter million, five percent. So I think because the money's

848
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: going where it's going. As Dak Prescott said in the

849
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: USA Today's story, he's of the opinion that based on

850
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: where the revenue streams and the cap number continuing to

851
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: rise are going, that the Cowboys should be able to

852
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: give Dak Prescott a fat second year contract, that they

853
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: will be able to give Zeke, you know, a big

854
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: second contract, and they'll be able to give him Ari

855
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: Cooper a big second contract, and with and as he mentioned,

856
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: the thing that might spin this into the stratosphere in

857
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: terms of moving the salary cap up maybe even more

858
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: than ten to twelve million a year, maybe it goes

859
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: up fifteen million a year. Because of the legalization of gambling.

860
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 1: You know, the NFL is going to get a piece

861
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: of that pie from every state that said, yep, we're

862
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: doing it. It's legal. You know, the Giants and the

863
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Jets play in New Jersey. Do you think the NFL,

864
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: with their billionaire owners who know how to make a

865
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: dollar better than anybody, are not going to get a

866
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: piece of that action. I mean, you're out of your mind.

867
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna get a piece of that action as right

868
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: as rain Steve. It's going to happen. Now. Do we

869
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: know all the ins and outs of how that stream

870
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: of revenue is gonna work. No, but I think it's

871
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: pretty safe to say they're gonna get a piece of

872
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: the pie. And that to me means that paying a

873
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: running back ten to twelve million a year may not

874
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: be as big a thing as maybe even you and

875
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: I think it is right now. But what I told

876
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: you is it's not about the number. It's about that

877
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: it's about being the highest guy. It's about being the

878
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: next highest guy. It's about being compensated the way you

879
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: think is fair around the league. You think, and there's

880
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: there's always going to be a player like a Levion

881
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Bell was with the Steelers. He thinks he needs to

882
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: be paid like a quarterback. You've heard pass rushers say,

883
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: I need to be paid like a quarterback. You've heard

884
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: corners say, you know, I need to be paid up there.

885
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: And that's what it's going to be about. It's not

886
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: so much you know all of that. You know, it's

887
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: not so much what it is for the cap of

888
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the particular team. It is what the player thinks he's

889
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: worth on the open market compared to everybody else who

890
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: does what he does. And that throws a wrench into

891
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: things and that's where you get these warped out looks.

892
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: I think you're right, though, and we're gonna talk about this.

893
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: Maybe at the top of the hour. We're gonna have

894
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: a new segment that we talk and I don't know,

895
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: I hope it works, but it's called What's for Lunch?

896
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, What's because we always do come

897
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: on you and I we have to kind of eat

898
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: around the show, right, because it came up. It's always

899
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: on our mind because we're always starving when we start

900
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: the show, and we're thinking about how we can incorporate

901
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: it into the show and what's for lunch, And there's

902
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: gonna be topics every day, not just food. Not just food.

903
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna be food, but it's it's topics and it's

904
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: it's food for thought about that. There you go, It's well, right,

905
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm a genius. So you can either have it for

906
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: lunch or you can throw it away. You can either

907
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: eat it or chuck it. You can either it's either

908
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: food or it's garbage. And that's gonna be the choice.

909
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: It's either it's a simple thumbs up thumbs down, and

910
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna get We're gonna get to those at the

911
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: top of the hour. We also have we're gonna do

912
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: that right at the top of the hour, and then

913
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: right after that at the next hour, two o'clock hour,

914
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Steve Palozolo on from Pro Football Focus.

915
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: But we are chewing this thing up. We're like, I

916
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: love this topic about what we think because a little

917
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: bit of it has to do with projecting the value

918
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: of the position as it goes forward, and what kind

919
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: of different player like Alvin Kamara to me, gives the

920
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: Saints more flexibility and gives them different things than Zeke

921
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: Elliott does or an Adrian Peterson does, but they're playing

922
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: the same position. So there's a lot of this going

923
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: into It is about how how productive the guy is

924
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: for his particular team. And there's a lot of scenarios

925
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: where you can think of where these running backs are

926
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: valuable to their team. But I don't know if he'd

927
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: beat that. I don't know if this team would have

928
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: to change everything to pull this guy in. They change

929
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: their offense, their philosophy, everything they do. So there's a

930
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: lot of that going in there as well. We're gonna

931
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: talk about that after the top of the hour. Steve Tasker,

932
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

933
00:47:50,560 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Bills Network story Stock Games.

934
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback Ryan Smith has been suspended without

935
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: pay for the initial four games of the twenty nineteen

936
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: season for a violation of the league's policy on performance

937
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 1: enhancing substances. Injuring his fourth season with the Bucks, Smith

938
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: has played in thirty one games with sixteen starts, with

939
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: ninety nine tackles and one interception over the last two seasons.

940
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Forward Michael Furland signed a four year, fourteen million dollar

941
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: contract with the Canucks yesterday that has an average annual

942
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: value of three point five million. Furland has forty points

943
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: in seventy one regular season games with the Hurricanes this

944
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: last season, Eden native forward alex i Follow signed a

945
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: two year, four point eight five million dollar contract with

946
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: the Kings yesterday. I Follow had thirty three points in

947
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: eighty two games with LA last season, is second in

948
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: the NHL. He has fifty eight points in one hundred

949
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: and fifty seven NHL games and one goal in three

950
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup playoff games. The Clippers announced yesterday that they

951
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: have signed Kawhi Leonard without releasing contract details. However, it

952
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: was reported that Leonard has a has chosen a shorter

953
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: contract with LA, signing a three year, one hundred and

954
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: three point one million dollar deal that includes a player

955
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: option for the third season. Romanius Simona Hollop has reached

956
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: her first Wimbledon final by beating Ukraine's Alina Svitolina six

957
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: one sixty three in the semifinals. Today, Hollop will face

958
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: American Serena Williams, who will play in the Wimbledon final

959
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: for the eleventh time and we'll be looking for her

960
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: eighth title at the All England Club. Williams, a twenty

961
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: three time Grand Slam singles champion, beats the Czech Republic's

962
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: Barbara's Strikova six one, six one in the semifinals. Today.

963
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: That's your sports updates. Serena Williams still killing it, Brownie,

964
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. Steve, I mean, isn't nobody like her.

965
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Nobody she knows just a power pad she is. She's

966
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: still cranking at it like one oh seven on us.

967
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: Its stupid. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Steve

968
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: Tasker and Chris Brown. We're talking today about what the

969
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: future of the of the feature NFL running Back. We've

970
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: been debating it back and forth. Now we're gonna have

971
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: a little chance to take a break from the heated

972
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: debate about how good, how much a running back is

973
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: worth and what we'll go back. We will get back

974
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: to that. It's been fun to talk about. We also

975
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: have this new thing we're gonna talk about today and

976
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: it's called what's for lunch? What's for lunch? Are you

977
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: gonna eat this for lunch? Are you gonna throw it

978
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: in the garbage? What are you gonna eat it or

979
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: chuck it? And the first time, we're gonna have some

980
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: topics that come up, and Brownie and I are going

981
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: to debate these topics and they're not they don't necessarily

982
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: have to do with football, but they do have a

983
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: big implications for all of us everywhere. These are major

984
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: life change, universal top All right, there we go, universal topics. Okay,

985
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? Number one? New CBA gets done before

986
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: games are lost. New NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement is gonna

987
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: get done before any games are lost. You're eating that

988
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: for lunch? Yea, you know what? I Am going to

989
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: eat that because I think there is uh like we

990
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: talked about the other day when we were discussing CBA,

991
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it was Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday. We were

992
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: talking about how the NFLPA as an entity cannot all

993
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: be thinking in the same way because the salary structure

994
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: is so vast based on position, based on talent level,

995
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: career length, that there are too many agendas where there's

996
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna get to a point where people are

997
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna there's gonna be a majority or a vocal minority

998
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: that say we're not missing games. I need my checks,

999
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: and they're gonna buckle or do something, and so missing games.

1000
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna get to that. I just

1001
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: don't see it. I know the NFLPA, they always put

1002
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: this out in the media. We've been we've been telling

1003
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: our players for three years to put together savings, you know,

1004
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: so they can get through an entire season with their

1005
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: savings without getting paid for playing games, so we can

1006
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: get what we need for the future. And like you said,

1007
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: like you said the other day, the NFL running back

1008
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: who's twenty six, isn't worried about the next generation of players.

1009
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: He's worried about getting his check on Monday. And because

1010
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: of that, I think ultimately the owners win. The players

1011
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: don't get everything they want because it's more important to

1012
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: get their check on Monday than to get everything they

1013
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: want on their list of you know, wants and must

1014
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: haves for the new CBA. Here's why I say eat it.

1015
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: I do too. I'll eat this as well. But for

1016
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: the other side of the aisle, as much as it's

1017
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: worth to the players the one hundred and eighty five

1018
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: or four million dollars salary cap that it is, think

1019
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: about having the if that's right, how many think about

1020
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: how many people, how many how much money the owners

1021
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: are looking at and missing any of these games, plus

1022
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: it damage and plus the television partners have protections against

1023
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: work stoppages. The owners won't get anything if they're not

1024
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: playing these games. If the revenue is not coming in,

1025
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna get hurt and hurt bad. And it starts

1026
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: with the TV money, and that's what it is. So

1027
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: both these times, I still think players feel it more

1028
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: than the owners. Sure think they'll feel it, but here's

1029
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: it may be more urgent for them, but the owners

1030
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: are going to be even if they're totally robotic about it.

1031
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: They know they've got a good thing going. They may

1032
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: push it to the final hour. But I think on

1033
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: both sides, it is so valuable to have these games

1034
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: on when they're supposed to be on, and everybody doing

1035
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to be doing, no matter what the

1036
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: details of the CBA say. I don't think there's any

1037
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: question that the owners are as much in this as

1038
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: the players. Are so. I think both sides have so

1039
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: much to us by stopping these games and not having

1040
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: a work stoppage. I don't think there's any question that

1041
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: this CBA gets done before they start losing games. So

1042
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 1: both of us are eating that for lunch. Yeah, I agree,

1043
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that is a no brainer.

1044
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, now, NBA, this is a what's for

1045
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: lunch number two. NBA approves the use of coaches challenges

1046
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: for the two thousan nineteen twenty twenty season. I'm saying,

1047
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: I'm I'm chucking. This is garbage. It's garbage they already use.

1048
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: They use the replay exactly the way it should be

1049
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: used right now. I don't think they need to expand it.

1050
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: There's no reason to think that these games are getting

1051
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: out of hand. If you're in the final two minutes,

1052
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: everything's reviewed anyway, and that it's going to be taken

1053
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: out of the coach's hands anyway. I just think it's,

1054
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, and to use a

1055
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, a big syllable word, it's superfluous. They don't

1056
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: need it. They do not need it. This is this

1057
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: is putting puff. This is putting perfume on a pig.

1058
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna help. Just leave it off. Just leave

1059
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: it off. They don't need this new rule. And I

1060
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know why they're doing it. I don't know what

1061
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to react to. I don't know what they

1062
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: think is wrong with the game. It was the I'm

1063
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: not an NBA guy, as you know, I like the NBA,

1064
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't have a team. I'm not

1065
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: watching games right I'm watching all the playoffs, sure, and

1066
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: this last playoff NBA playoff season was phenomenal start to finish.

1067
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: Every round was awesome. And I like the way the

1068
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: players are moving. I like, you know, the fact that hey,

1069
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: who's gonna be good? You know, you get a chance

1070
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: to really they really got it going on. Just stop, okay,

1071
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: just leave it alone for a minute. And I'm in

1072
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: the same boat. I'm chucking this as far as I

1073
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: can throw it because the thing with the replay system,

1074
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't even like the way it is now. The

1075
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: last two minutes of an NBA game or even a

1076
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: college basketball game gets so bogged down with timeouts, you know,

1077
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: to get the proper sets and oh, we gotta get

1078
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: a basket on this set, So let's call it time out.

1079
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: Get everybody organized. I mean, the last two minutes of

1080
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: an NBA game can take a half an hour. That

1081
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: was before any of this replace stuff ever even came

1082
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: into being. And now you know you're you're reviewing, well,

1083
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: who did it go off last? Okay, you know, I can,

1084
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll I can, I cantomach I can stomach that. Possessions,

1085
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: I can stomach that. But they've taken it another step

1086
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: and they've gone too far. They've stepped over the line.

1087
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna have breaks in the action that

1088
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: are so detrimental to the momentum of the game and

1089
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: who might have the advantage at that particular time, and

1090
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill the product. It's gonna be so anticlimactic.

1091
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, when a guy comes flying in on a

1092
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: on a ball caraming off the rim and throws it

1093
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: down from like you know, the rafters, and they're gonna say, oh, well,

1094
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: I want to challenge whether that was in the cylinder.

1095
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: You know, like, come, I'm totally with you. I think

1096
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: I think they start down a slippery slope and then

1097
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: they can't do it. Um. So we love that the

1098
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: NFLCBA is gonna get done this year. We're both eating

1099
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: that for lunch. We're also chucking the NBA's new use

1100
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: of coaches challenges. Now another one within the AFC East.

1101
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: What's for lunch? Number three? The Dolphins over under at five?

1102
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: Are you buying it? They're gonna it? Says the Dolphins

1103
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: will win five games in twenty nineteen. Five games. Well,

1104
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: they're playing the they're playing the NFC East out of

1105
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: conference and they're playing the AFCU. What are we playing

1106
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: the North? Right? Oh? No, and yeah, NFC East, AFC North.

1107
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: So that's Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, win five games.

1108
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm chucking it. They're not winning five games. Oh, I

1109
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: think they will. Yeah, yeah, I think the Dolphins. Listen,

1110
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: five games, you can win five games. I don't think

1111
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: there's any questions. I I think they're gonna be good

1112
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: enough to win five games. Granted, they've been accused of tanking.

1113
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: They've got all that stuff going on their defensive. You know,

1114
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: they've lost a lot of talented players. It's a new

1115
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: coaching change in the first time head coach. It's all

1116
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: that stuff going on. Ryan Fitzpatrick will give him a

1117
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: spark early in the season, they're gonna surprise one or

1118
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: two teams. There's two and then they're gonna get this guy,

1119
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen in and Josh Rosen you know, I don't

1120
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: if you see some of his highlights from Arizona last year,

1121
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: the guy can sling it. He's gonna and they're gonna

1122
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: get better. They're gonna get better throughout the season. So

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00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: I think if if Fitzpatrick gives you maybe two wins

1124
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: early in the season and Rosen squeaks out three wins late,

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: all through the rest of the season, yeah, I think

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: they'll win five game. I am. I'm gonna have that

1127
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: for lunch. I think the Dolphins are gonna be better

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: than than the dumpster fire than they think. Yeah, all right,

1129
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: now what's for lunch? Number four? Jimmy Garoppolo will win

1130
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: the Comeback Player of the Year award. That's it. He's

1131
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: a good he's a good candidate. He's certainly a good candidate.

1132
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: That's what you have to do. You kind of got

1133
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: to go down the list. Yeah, I'm trying to think

1134
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: of other people and off the time. Only if Alex

1135
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Smith comes back, well yeah that would trumpet because that

1136
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: guy's he can play after that, man Um Garoppolo was

1137
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: playing great in the games that he started his first

1138
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: go round with the forty nine ers, and they were

1139
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: all amped up about what he was going to be

1140
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: in eighteen. And then obviously it got cut short on

1141
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: on a big run that he had right contact. But

1142
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: he was he was doing it again, I mean was

1143
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: he started off. He was, he was on fire. Yeah,

1144
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: because I right now cannot think of a better candidate

1145
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: short of Alex Smith, who I don't think is going

1146
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: to be back this year. I will, I will eat that,

1147
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: and I think I think he's a guy that can

1148
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: lift the level of players around him. I think he's

1149
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: that good a quarterback or can be. And he's got

1150
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: a great oc in Shanahan to work with. So I will,

1151
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I will eat that, and I will say, yes, I

1152
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think the Niners are gonna take

1153
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: a step forward this year. They've got They've put together

1154
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: a really good defensive front that's going to give them

1155
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: a chance. A lot of beef on that team, an

1156
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a chance to play some complimentary football.

1157
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is gonna give him a chance to play with

1158
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: the lead quite a bit. Uh and there's no question

1159
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: if the Niners can get into the playoffs and do

1160
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, which which they could. Arizona is

1161
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: in that in that division. The Seattle Seahawks s off

1162
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: that division h and the Rams the Rams, Yeah they're

1163
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. Is that they're going a chance that

1164
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: I think they're really gonna take a step forward. I

1165
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: saw him play against the Rams last year and they

1166
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: gave him all they could handle in a Super Bowl

1167
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: year for the Rams. Now it was in San Francisco,

1168
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: I'll say that, but Shanahan's gonna give him something. Yeah,

1169
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: I think this is a team. And here's what I'm saying.

1170
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a much improved football team. And because

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01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a much improved football team, they're gonna

1172
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: be in the conversation late in the year. So even

1173
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: if they don't get to the playoffs, they're gonna be

1174
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: in the runt, in the hunt for a wild card

1175
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: or whatever late in the year. And Garoppolo's gonna be

1176
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. Is going to be seen

1177
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: by that, and that's really, let's face it, it's a

1178
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: comeback player of the year. You gotta play well and

1179
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: you gotta be on a team that people care about.

1180
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I'm gonna say, yes, Garoppolo

1181
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: is gonna it's gonna be the Comeback Player of the Year.

1182
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: That is once for lunch right there, the CBA gets

1183
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: done before games are lost. We both had that one

1184
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: as an appetizer. The NBA approves the use, and we

1185
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: both threw that one in the garbage. They approved the

1186
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: use of the Coaches Challenge for the twenty nineteen twenty season,

1187
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: and we split on the Dolphins. Brownie doesn't like them

1188
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: to win five games. I think they will win five games. Uh,

1189
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: and we both and neither and both of us think

1190
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's got a shot at winning the Comeback Player

1191
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: of the Year award. That's he's pretty good. Yeah, it's

1192
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good menu for our first What have you

1193
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: done for me? Lately? It's like people forget, oh, you

1194
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: know what that Garoppolo kids not bad. He ate such

1195
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: a huge splash radar and yeah, with an injury, and

1196
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: it's like everybody always think about it. We couldn't even

1197
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: think another guy eligible. We can't even think of another

1198
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: guy eligible for it drawn a blank. I don't know.

1199
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: And also we're talking about this, what's the future of

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: the feature NFL running back? What's gonna happen to the

1201
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: running backs in the NFL? Are there are there is

1202
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: that still gonna happen? Is that still gonna be the case?

1203
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Is everybody gonna need one of those guys? Or is

1204
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: it gonna be more of a well, let's let's see,

1205
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: what do you call it? More of a running back

1206
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: by committee? Is it gonna be evolved all the way

1207
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: away from what it has been in the years, past,

1208
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: decades past. Thirty eight percent of you say, Noah, it's

1209
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: always going to be part of the game, ten percent

1210
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: say no, it's no longer I must have, twenty seven

1211
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: percent say it's good to have, but don't give the

1212
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: guy a second deal, don't overpay for those guys. And

1213
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: twenty five percent say yeah, they're too easy, easily replaceable.

1214
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: And some of those some of those obviously you can

1215
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: feel you can agree with more than one of those answers.

1216
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: But I think most people already say that now they're

1217
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: always going to be a part of the game, And

1218
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: I think I agree with that. They always are going

1219
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 1: to be a part of the game. But I also

1220
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: say too. They're all too easily replaceable, even in this

1221
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: day and age. I've said that throughout our conversation here

1222
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: today on the show. I just think they're too easy

1223
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: to find. I mean that you've got guys, you know,

1224
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: certainly you've got a guy like se Quon Barkley, number

1225
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: two pick in the draft, and the guy is a

1226
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: is a stud. Ezekiel Elliott number four overall of the draft,

1227
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: and he's a stud. But you've got other guys like

1228
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is a fifth round draft pick, third round pick,

1229
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: third round draft picky. You know, you've got other guys

1230
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: that have that have been less dynamic. I mean, think

1231
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 1: about the guys that the Bills with Gillislie, who has played,

1232
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: who played well here and then went to New England.

1233
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: Then you had guys like Carlos Williams who came in

1234
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: for one year and flash everybody, yeah, flash in the pan.

1235
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: You get guys like that who come in and do

1236
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: good things for your franchise and you're paying them literally

1237
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: pennies on the dollar compared to a guy like Lashawn McCoy,

1238
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, Todd Gurley Johnson and Arizona. All these guys

1239
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you just you just don't need to do

1240
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: that to get production out of that position. I think

1241
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: that's where I sit on the entire matter. So it's

1242
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: interesting to talk about. We've been we've been hashing it

1243
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: out all day. So what's on the tweet sheet. Here

1244
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet the future of the feature NFL running

1245
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: back brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

1246
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. Here's what's next on the

1247
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, The Bills Monster says, I believe there will

1248
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: be a future at running back as a hybrid like player.

1249
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: Brian Westbrook from Philly was before his time with his

1250
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: pass catching ability. Thurman was the best blocking running back

1251
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: of all time. The future at that spot will be

1252
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: someone who can do all of the above. But if

1253
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: you've got a guy, and here's the thing, Bill's Monster,

1254
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: I get you, You'll get a guy who can do

1255
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, is well, then you got a

1256
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: feature back, right, and then then you are he is

1257
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: a guy that you pay a savy contract. And if

1258
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: he's doing all these things, he's probably getting three hundred

1259
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: carries or at least three hundred touches, you know, via

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Speaker 1: reception and running. And now now the decision has to

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: be made. You want to use him like the cowboys

1262
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: uze Elliott? Or do you value him so much you

1263
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: want to pace him so when it comes time to

1264
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: pay the second track, you know you're still gonna get

1265
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: good value on the dollar because he's still fresh and

1266
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: you haven't worn those tires down too much. I think

1267
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: what happens is and here's what happened. Here's the thing.

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01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: He can have this philosophy as a general manager and

1269
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: as a franchise say all right, we've got this young guy. Uh,

1270
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: let's let's make take the contrast him too. Let's we

1271
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: got a guy like LaShaun McCoy is a young running back,

1272
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: can do everything, catch it, can make guy's miss. Not

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01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: really a physical inside the tackles runner, but certainly an

1274
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Speaker 1: elite back. Then you got a guy like Zeke Elliott,

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01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: who is a hammer, and we got this big offensive

1276
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: line we're gonna you know. So you got both those guys, right,

1277
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: So you gotta make a call what you're gonna need

1278
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: around him. Or you can say, listen, we're gonna use

1279
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Speaker 1: this kid up, this Zekellet, We're gonna we're gonna give

1280
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: him the ball three hundred times a year until his

1281
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: contracts up, and then we're gonna throw him away, or

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: you do you say? All right, now we can listen

1283
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: as he got Lashawan, and these guys are kind of replaceable.

1284
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: Let's just keep getting a rookie first round or a

1285
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: rookie third round or fifth round draft pick or a

1286
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: rookie free agent behind him, and we'll give him some

1287
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: garbage carries so we can nurse Lashawn McCoy through a

1288
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: ten year career instead of using using him up in

1289
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: a five or six year career. And Melvin Gordon, who

1290
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of sparked this whole conversation today, is a pretty

1291
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: darn good all around back. I mean, you know he's

1292
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of receptions in his very few seasons.

1293
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Last Elusive can catch it, yeah, I mean he can

1294
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: run an inside or outside and he does everything. And

1295
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: so are you giving that guy a giant second contract?

1296
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: That's what sits on the table for the Chargers now.

1297
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: And Gordon has kind of already lit the fire and

1298
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: is already holding the Charger's feet to it, saying, I

1299
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: better get a giant contractor I'm not even coming to

1300
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: training camp this year. Is there any way, And we're

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna have Steve Paulozolo from Pro Football Focus on the

1302
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: show later today. All they do is look at film

1303
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: and evaluate guys on their their production snaps, their metrics,

1304
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: all this stuff that is behind the scenes, all the

1305
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: subtexts and the data that comes out of these games.

1306
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: And it's interesting to know, how, I guess you don't

1307
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: really have a problem doing it for a guy like

1308
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley when you know the guy is a gonna

1309
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: be productive and your offense runs three times better when

1310
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: he's in there because of what it forces the defense

1311
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: to do. But then you've got the other side of

1312
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: the sword that says, well, the guy's good, but he's

1313
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: got an arthritic knee and he's only gonna play twelve games,

1314
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: And you get down at the end of the season

1315
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: and you're eight and four chasing your division rival, and

1316
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: you've got four games to go, and he may not

1317
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: be he may be up or down. He may be

1318
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: able to give you half a game here and there.

1319
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So then everything changes, or

1320
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: you get a guy that you say, Okay, I'm gonna

1321
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: make him the best paid running back in the National

1322
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: Football League and the guy awesome, I got thirty million

1323
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed, Why am I going to jump into the Yeah?

1324
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: Why am I gonna keep it in gear and put

1325
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: my foot on the gas when I'm already when I've

1326
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: already got my money. So you're almost so. And I'm

1327
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: sure there are gms in this league that have a

1328
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: similar philosophy where they say, I'd rather get the hungry

1329
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: to prove himself, running back coming out of school, that

1330
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: wants to make a name for himself so he can

1331
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: get to a second contract, rather than a guy who's

1332
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 1: going onto his second contract and thinks he's made it

1333
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: and now that he gets guaranteed money, is gonna take

1334
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: his foot off the gas. I mean, that's real in

1335
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: this league. I mean that happens a lot, maybe more

1336
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: than fans even realize. But is it enough to convince

1337
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: an NFL club to back away from somebody like that?

1338
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: Like if you go down to Dallas and let's just

1339
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: say there's a report that comes out that says Cowboys

1340
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: considering moving away from Elliott, I mean, yeah, people in

1341
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: the streets with pitchforks and torches, fans you know what

1342
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know maybe I've got their fan

1343
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: base a little wrong. But with all the production that

1344
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: he's put together for that franchise, I think he's he's

1345
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: got some some clout. Um you know, not that the

1346
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: not that what the public says. There's only one fluence

1347
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones decision. There's only one fan you gotta worry about.

1348
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: That's Jerry, so I and I and there's but that's different.

1349
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: That's in Dallas, that is. Yeah, in Buffalo maybe not.

1350
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there is a sense of like you know,

1351
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: may cost a season ticket holders if they don't hang

1352
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: on to this guy. Maybe there is a thing like

1353
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: that in Green Bay or or Denver or Jacksonville, where

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01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna sit down

1355
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: a guy or trade a guy of that caliber, you're

1356
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna get some financial repercussions from it. But I think

1357
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: that all comes down to leadership and the owner. If

1358
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: you've got a GM who can go in and tell

1359
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: the owner listen, this is best for our football team,

1360
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: and the owner is smart enough to listen. Um, Yeah,

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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: I don't think the fans. I mean, the fans voice

1362
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: will be heard, but it's not going to affect what

1363
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: they think I think you gotta when guy's jobs are

1364
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: on the line, like gms and coaches, and you gotta try.

1365
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: You gotta trust their judgment because they're not gonna do

1366
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: anything that they truly believe isn't going to really help them.

1367
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: And certainly that you need to bounce a lot of

1368
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: different ideas off of them. You don't just like listen

1369
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: to them blind and say, oh, what about this, what

1370
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: if this happens? If they've got good answers for you

1371
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: got to listen to them. Their jobs are on the line.

1372
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: It's their reputation, you know. It's so I fans are

1373
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: great and I love them, and the league is nothing

1374
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: without them. But when you've got guys who do this

1375
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: for a living and they're trying to make these tough

1376
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: calls on whether the philosophical calls, whether you've got money

1377
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: on one hand and production on the other, and then

1378
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: trying to tell the future balancing those two, you know,

1379
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: what's this money You're gonna get me out of this

1380
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: guy after I pay him. That's a big question. And

1381
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 1: here's another element of this conversation that we really haven't discussed.

1382
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: You touched on it briefly, but the whole committee idea.

1383
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: From the tweet sheet from Ray, he said New England

1384
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: showed at the end of last season that the running

1385
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: game is a featured part of an offense is making

1386
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: a comeback. However, they do with interchangeable backs and even

1387
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: a fullback, so the feature back is unnecessary. And I

1388
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: think to a certain extent, he's right there. You there

1389
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: are ways to capably do it with a committee, provided

1390
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: you have guys that can do certain things. Now, some

1391
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: our offensive coordinators would argue that by putting this back

1392
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: on the field or that back on the field, you

1393
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: make your offense more predictable. James White comes on the field,

1394
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: you're believing that the Patriots are probably throwing to him.

1395
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: They're not going to hand him the ball necessarily. And

1396
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: that's all well and good. But I think in the

1397
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: grand scheme of this, this is a case by case

1398
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: basis for the running back position. Do you want to

1399
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: feature back, do you have one, do you need one?

1400
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: You know, all of those things have to be weighed,

1401
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: As Steve said earlier in the show, based on the quarterback.

1402
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: You have, what kind of passing game rank do you have?

1403
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: You know, can you chuck the ball fifty times? And

1404
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 1: be and win games. That way down to this Brownie.

1405
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 1: Do you believe if you're gonna get this guy to

1406
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: a second contract, do you believe he's the kind of

1407
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't care about the money. He wants to play, right,

1408
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: does he want it? Does his goal in life to

1409
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 1: be great? Because if his goal in life is to

1410
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: be great, the money's secondary to him. He wants to

1411
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: be great. He wants to legacy. He wants to go

1412
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: down the Hall of Fame. He wants to get in

1413
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He wants to be mentioned in

1414
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: the same breath as you know Earl Campbell and Thurman

1415
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: Thomas and Barry Sanders and Jim Brown and all those guys.

1416
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: He wants to be in that conversation. If that's what

1417
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: drives the guy, give him the money. Yeah, give him

1418
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: the money. But there is still and this is probably

1419
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: true at every position, but maybe no more than in

1420
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: any other position. Then running back with you know, Todd

1421
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: Gurley being a perfect example the injury factor. I'm I

1422
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: am confident, I am supremely confident that NFL teams, with

1423
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: their analytics departments, have broken down the injury rates of

1424
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: every position on their roster and are probably going to

1425
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: go back a lot further than that and probably take

1426
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: it all the way across the league, all thirty two teams,

1427
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: all positions and at the positions. How many games on

1428
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: average are missed by running backs every single season? And

1429
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: if that number is higher than any other position on

1430
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: on your roster. It wouldn't shock me in the least

1431
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 1: if running backs missed more games than anybody else. What's

1432
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: the future of the feature NFL running Back? You can

1433
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: call us at eight o three five fifty or one

1434
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. We're gonna take

1435
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: a break in the bottom of the hour. We might

1436
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: get back into this about some of the there's still

1437
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: more to talk about this. I mean, we've been going

1438
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: at it for a while. I'm loving it. This is

1439
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1440
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Task

1441
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown, Murph's on vacation this week. He'll

1442
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: be back Monday. We're talking about the future of the

1443
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: feature NFL running Back, where that's headed. What do you

1444
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: think or how important you think it is. We're taking

1445
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: your phone calls at eight to three five fifty or

1446
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We're also

1447
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: here and we're we're into our brethren here within the building.

1448
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: We've got to want to bring your attention to an

1449
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: article on the website. It's Camp Countdown, you guys are

1450
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 1: I've got this thing going where you're counting down the

1451
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: days to training champ and we're two weeks exactly right. Yeah,

1452
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: so number fourteen, yeah, number fourteen. Three reasons why Robert

1453
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: Foster's game can take a big leap forward. I think

1454
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: Robert Foster is one of the most intriguing guys on

1455
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: the roster because we saw him last year kind of

1456
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: explode onto the scene. Then you find out when he's

1457
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: you kind of heard him in training camp and then

1458
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: and this got away from me because I was doing

1459
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: the CBS thing and I was out of town in town.

1460
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 1: I didn't really and I know, you've got your fingers

1461
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: in the roster all the time through training camp and

1462
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: all of that. But all of a sudden he gets

1463
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: in there and he started making some catches, right, and

1464
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,839
Speaker 1: he kind of and Josh Allen has a little chemistry

1465
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: with him and all out. Then you find out the

1466
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: guy was cut and then brought back practice squad. And

1467
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: so they released him completely and then brought him back,

1468
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: and how that affected him and his mentality going forward.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's interesting to see how that's going

1470
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: to affect him this year. Yeah, And really a lot

1471
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: of people felt like, oh, well, they cut him to

1472
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: teach him a lesson, and Robert, you know, in an

1473
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: interview that I did with him late last season, basically

1474
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: revealed to me that as much as he understood the

1475
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: decision that the team made, he kind of saw the

1476
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 1: writing on the wall and thought he was going to

1477
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: get cut. But he said what changed his approach to

1478
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: the game was the wake up call he got from

1479
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: LaShaun McCoy in a one on one conversation. Lashawan went

1480
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: up to him and basically said, you're ridiculously talented. We

1481
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: need more from you. You need to do better. Yeah,

1482
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: and you're not doing it right now, and you're gonna

1483
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: get cut because of it, and you have a finite

1484
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: amount of time to figure it out. And he said

1485
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: that was the wake up call that he needed. So

1486
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: gets cut, gets put on the practice squad the entire

1487
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: bye week Week ten for the Bills. Last year, he

1488
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: stays in town and throws every day with Josh Allen,

1489
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: and the very next week he's promoted to the active roster.

1490
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: And even though Josh isn't cleared to play, and Matt

1491
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: Barkley starts that game, Foster starts as his first one

1492
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: hundred yards evening game of his career. And then it

1493
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: goes from there, right, And I think that's you know,

1494
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: you think about all the ways he's going to get better. Certainly,

1495
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, a deeper core of receivers around him, Maybe

1496
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: he'll be a more consistent target, Maybe he'll catch him underneath.

1497
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean you even you remember him for the long ball,

1498
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: the long passes that he caught, No question, that's one

1499
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: reason it could be. It could be just another year

1500
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: being a professional, you know, coming back and knowing, you know,

1501
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: having gone around it been one lapse, firm grasp of

1502
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: the offense. His chemistry with Josh Allen is undeniable, and

1503
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: I think the other weapons on offense now are going

1504
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: to keep opponents from putting too much tension on Robert Foster.

1505
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: We've talked about this on this show before, Steve. You

1506
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: have John Brown on one side, Robert Foster on the

1507
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: other you're gonna play cover two and just roll coverage

1508
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: over the top so those guys don't beat you for

1509
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: a sixty yard touchdown. Okay, fine, we're gonna Cole Beasley

1510
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: to death, Zay jonesy to death in the middle of

1511
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: the field. You want to go one on one there

1512
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: with with linebackers or a nickel with Cole Beasley and

1513
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: Zay Jones, you know, go four wide and do that. Well,

1514
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: if you want us to run the football down your throat,

1515
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're gonna have your two safeties

1516
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: playing high to prevent those sixty yard bombs. Okay, fine,

1517
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball at you. I get old on.

1518
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out.

1519
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: Because Bob Foster, I mean, we call him Bob in

1520
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: the building. I don't know if he actually goes by.

1521
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: I call him Robert. But do you call him Robert?

1522
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: I think I call him Robert. Yea. I know you're

1523
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: you're very informal. I know the players. So Robert Foster,

1524
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: think about this. You've got Cole Beasley, John Brown, They're

1525
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field. Is Zay Jones gonna be

1526
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: on the field. There's three wides, and he got Tyler

1527
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: Croft with Sean McCoy Frank Robert Foster might after having

1528
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: a such a breakout second half of the season last year,

1529
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: he may have a hard time getting on the field

1530
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: and staying there. You know what I'm saying. I hear you,

1531
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm not saying there's nothing that says

1532
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: he can't beat any of those guys out of there.

1533
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be on the field. Yeah, who, Well,

1534
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: you can't have twelve guys out there. Who's the guy

1535
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: that sits down? Is it gonna be Zay Jones? Might

1536
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: be the running back, McCoy might be, might be going empty, Yeah, okay,

1537
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: might be four by one with with Croft, Tyler Croft

1538
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: or Dawson Knox or whatever whatever, and just throw it out.

1539
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. Yeah, well, I'm here's the thing,

1540
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: and everybody says, well, they might do this day. Listen,

1541
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna do all this stuff. They're gonna go heavy,

1542
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna go light, they're gonna go a week exactly.

1543
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, all this is gonna be in the toolbox.

1544
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: But so if they do have a week where they're

1545
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Robert Foster's on the field, John Brown's on the field,

1546
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley's on the fields. Say Jones is on the field,

1547
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft is on the field. Leshaun McCoy's on the field. Yeah,

1548
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a pretty good group. Yeah, you know,

1549
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good group. Uh. I don't know how

1550
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: were you going to run out of that unless you've

1551
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: got this offensive line that comes together and all of

1552
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: a sudden says, oh wow, hey we did we did

1553
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: fix that problem, right, and which could happen? Right? And

1554
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: I think they also recognize that they were deficient when

1555
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: it came to receivers who could block. And that's why

1556
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: Zay Jones made a point this offseason to bulk up.

1557
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: He's a little bigger and add eight to ten pounds

1558
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: a lean muscle mask because he knows he's going to

1559
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: be one of those inside receivers and he better set

1560
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: that edge for that running back downfield. You know what

1561
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, give him, give him that alley down the

1562
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: sideline because if they miss Robert Woods anywhere, it is

1563
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: in the run blocking game downfields. Because he's one of

1564
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: the best I have ever seen at it. He's really

1565
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: really good at it. He's still doing it in La

1566
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: right now. But speaking of La, Steve, that's where the

1567
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: sps were. Oh yeah, so that was let me wrap

1568
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: that up, say, can't countdown number fourteen. That was three

1569
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: reasons why Robert Fosters game might take a big for

1570
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: what I recommend you go to the website and read

1571
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: that uh written by again by Nate Mendelssohn, one of

1572
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: the interns here who's actually doing I like that. He's

1573
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 1: doing a pretty good job. Actually you liking him. We're

1574
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: setting him, we're setting him up. We're you know, we're

1575
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: putting him in good position to good content. One of

1576
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: those spoon feeders, is he I mean he can he

1577
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: can like tell him to do so. Yeah, for the

1578
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: most party good. All right, he's he needs you know,

1579
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,879
Speaker 1: just like all interns. They just need reps. That's right, exactly.

1580
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: He's developing his writing style. He's coming on, all right.

1581
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 1: So there you go, go to go to the website

1582
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: and catch that catch that article is pretty good. But

1583
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: you're right, that's not the only thing that's going on.

1584
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: Last night, the SP's happened. It's kind of evolving, right

1585
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: this this event that turned jumped the sharks right that

1586
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: was like, what's this what's this thing that? Now it's

1587
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: this thing where where the sports world, ESPN in particular,

1588
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: has kind of decided they're going to be Hollywood. And

1589
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, really, mimic the Academy Awards, right, I mean

1590
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: they got this big, shiny Style Awards, right. They it's

1591
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: a big deal. Yeah, they can blow it out and

1592
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: they have a red carpet and the whole thing, and

1593
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: everybody gets and I'd say the biggest dressed up. They

1594
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: don't get dressed up, they're getting costume. Yeah. I'm I'm

1595
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: really I don't know. Maybe I'm old school and think

1596
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: for an event like this, get yourself in a sharp

1597
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: suit and look good. And so many of these guys

1598
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: want to show Well I'm different. I'm the freethinker. You know.

1599
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,839
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the next person to go Lady Gaga

1600
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: on one of these events, to show up and show

1601
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: up in an egg, you know, wear a meat dress.

1602
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean get carried in on a on

1603
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: a pharaoh's throne or something. I'm waiting for that. But Obj,

1604
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 1: what does he do. I'm just gonna say this, Obj's

1605
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: decision was horrific because I'm gonna tell you. Right now,

1606
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: Steve and our MSG viewers are seeing his outfit. I'm

1607
01:21:55,120 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: just gonna explain it like this. It's somewhere between a

1608
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: Walmart vest that Walmart employees have to wear in the

1609
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: store and a grocery store plastic bag that you carry

1610
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: your stuff out in. Because basic the color of the

1611
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: grocery bag, right, it's it's khaki, just to be kind.

1612
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a it's a swooping neckline where

1613
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: it almost looks like he's wearing a grocery store bag. Right,

1614
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: And there is a stupid, stupid saddle bag size pouch

1615
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: on the front. It's a backpack wearing on the front almost,

1616
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's idiot, it's idiotic. I really want

1617
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: to know the thinking behind this. Who came up with

1618
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: this idea? OBJ obviously signed off on it. It had

1619
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: it's on this chest. It's got a little white red

1620
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: thing it says product Prada put that out. That's why,

1621
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: and that's why he wears it. You put the name

1622
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: on it. These guys will wear any Oh it's proud, alright,

1623
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: I'll wear it sure, whatever I mean. You look see

1624
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: if that was a real world you wait, wait, if

1625
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: that was the real world, it wasn't like this Hollywood thing.

1626
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: You got guys back there going I'll bet wait, I'll

1627
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: bet you if we put prad on it, he'll wear this.

1628
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: He'll wear this sack, i'll bet you. And he ain't

1629
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna wear that. It's a grocery store bag. Put this

1630
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: product on you, putting the name Prawd on it. I'll

1631
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: bet I can get Obej to wear that. The outfits redundant.

1632
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: He looks like a grocery store bag. And the bag's

1633
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: got a bag on top of it, like you know.

1634
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: And and here's the thing. I saw somebody on Twitter say, well,

1635
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: it looks like he's getting ready to go to the

1636
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: movies and have his snacks at the ready. This is

1637
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: even a dumb approach for the movies. You're showing front

1638
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: and center, you're carrying contraband in it's exactly, and you're

1639
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: not buying anything at the concession stand. You wisely conceal

1640
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: the goodies that you're bringing from home so you don't

1641
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: have to pay eight dollars for a box of raisinets.

1642
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: So he's not doing that. And it's top he's got

1643
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: a pair of short it comes with a matching pair

1644
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: of shorts. Oh yeah, thank god for that. It looks

1645
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: like it really looks like something you put a two

1646
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: year old in so they could put their own gear,

1647
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, you put your extra diaper in the front

1648
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: of his. They let the two year old carry from

1649
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: diaper in his own whites in the front of it.

1650
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: He's on a little short pants and style nice kicks.

1651
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the shoes are the best part about the

1652
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: whole outfit. The shirts, you know, the nice tight I

1653
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: would I would expect Prada to call this kangaroo grocery that.

1654
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: That's kind of what we're doing here. We got a

1655
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: giant pouch in the front. We look like a grocery

1656
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: store bag. And it does look like a utility vest

1657
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: that he's wearing for some shop that he works like

1658
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: some horrible it looks, I mean, you can't and you're

1659
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: wearing that too to an event, horrible like I don't

1660
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 1: doubt that he was comfortable, but holy physical emotional wearing

1661
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: that in public. I'd be an emotional you forget the

1662
01:24:53,320 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: physical that isn't that is epic fail categories. Harri I'm

1663
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: totally with you on that, and you know I get it.

1664
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: So I, um, yeah, what are you gonna do? You

1665
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: gotta try harder than that. You gotta you gotta do better, man,

1666
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: And he's gotta do And here's the thing you gotta

1667
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: do better. I understand guys wanting to be different, stand out,

1668
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, go off, you know, go off the mainstream

1669
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: and be different unique. I get it. I totally get that.

1670
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: But you've You're off the rails here, buddy, Yes, you

1671
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 1: are off the rails. That is the quintessential formal event

1672
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, quintessential trying too hard,

1673
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, terrible right, terrible? All right? Steve Tasker and

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown One Bills Live the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: We've got Steve Palaceolo from Pro Football Focus coming on.

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Speaker 1: We also want to hear from you at eight three,

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Speaker 1: five fifty. What's the future of the feature NFL running back?

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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and

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Speaker 1: it's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Steve task along with Chris Brown, we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: future of NFL feature backs and the running backs in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We're getting taking some of your Twitter feedback.

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Speaker 1: We also had a little fouryer into the red carpet

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Speaker 1: last night at the SPS. You should go online and

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Speaker 1: check out those pictures. It's ob j Wolf. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And we're and we're also talking about the you know,

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Speaker 1: the in general value of what that position at running

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Speaker 1: back is worth these days and how much is too much.

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Speaker 1: And we also have Steve Palazzola coming on the Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus. Guy. They're coming on, they've been they get

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Speaker 1: a little pushedback once in a while because and this

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Speaker 1: is what I want to ask Steve about when he

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Speaker 1: comes on, is they rate these players. They give him

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Speaker 1: grades like, for instance, Jerry Hughes was given an almost

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Speaker 1: an elite pass rushing like a second overall rush pressure

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Speaker 1: rate in the National Football League. He was number two

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Speaker 1: overall in the entire league. That means everybody, Aaron, Aaron,

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01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: Donald von Miller, all these guys, Joey Bosa, Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 1: was more productive or at least ranked higher than these

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Speaker 1: other players. And I want to get Palozolo to see

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: if he can explain to us how much, first of all,

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Speaker 1: how much pushback they get from I mean, fans must

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01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: go bonkers. I don't think fans I think there's some

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01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: players that take issue with some of the things that

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Speaker 1: they come up with, and I'll ask them about that too,

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01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: because I know Eric would always had a bone to

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01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: pick with them, because his argument was, you don't know

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01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: what the play is, right, sim is on his play,

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: how are you going to accurately great offensive lines? And

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01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: I think that is the one area that's hard where PF.

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01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's very subjective and I don't know if

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01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: you can take that stuff to the bank, especially when

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Speaker 1: it comes to offensive linement. Right Yeah. Palosolo Steve Palosolo

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus coming up at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the feature of the future of the

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Speaker 1: feature NFL running Back. We've got some feedback from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Andrew brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems.

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Speaker 1: He says, I see un backs as a dime a dozen.

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01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: You can have any caliber player play that position as

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Speaker 1: long as you have a great offensive line in front

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Speaker 1: of them. I think you might well, Andrew might be

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 1: James Connor argu it might be yeah, he might be

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01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: exaggerating to make a point, but the point is, listen,

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Speaker 1: those guys. You get a mediocre running back is good

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: a mediocre NFL running back is good enough if you've

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Speaker 1: got a great offensive line, and but his vice versa

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01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: as well, if you've got a great running back. I

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: don't know how good he's gonna be without a great

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Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him. I'm thinking it all

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Speaker 1: starts up front. But does a great back do even

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: better than a mediocre back when the line is good?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the real question. James Conner was

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Speaker 1: a third round pick. Yeah, I had more rushing yards

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Speaker 1: last year than Levion Bell had in his final year

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Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh. Let me just tell you something about this

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Speaker 1: Levion Bell thing. And we've been we've been following that

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Speaker 1: case for two years now, right, I mean since he

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Speaker 1: started holding out and wanting more money and turned down

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01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh deal and then held out for this last

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Speaker 1: season in Pittsburgh. So the thing about it, when he

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Speaker 1: gets to the New York Jets, I am almost positive

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Speaker 1: that the New York Jet offensive line this year is

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01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: not going to be as good as the Pittsburgh Steeler

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01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: line that he has been running behind his entire career.

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01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line was dominant last year, and

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Speaker 1: I have to dominant. I don't think you have to

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01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: be pretty sure, Steve. I think that is to take

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01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: it to the bank. Jets offensive line not as good

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01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: as Steeler's offensive line. Dune deal Lucille conversation over how

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01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: is that going to affect a thirty million dollar guarantee

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01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: that the Jets gave to Levion Bell. Now they're gonna

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01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna start running behind you know that a Volkswagen

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01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: instead of a instead of a bulldozer. You know what

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01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, it's going to be interesting that

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: patient running style is not going to patiently getting hit

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Speaker 1: in the mouth. Yeah, because there's gonna be a lot

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01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: more penetration than he's used to see him, right, I

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01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: think so, I think that's a big issue. And I

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Speaker 1: and I and I agree. And it's a new offense

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01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: that guys aren't going to have mastered yet at the

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01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: outset of the season. There are a lot of factors

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01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: right now that are going in against success for Levion Belt. Now,

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Speaker 1: he is supremely talented. I do not debate that for

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01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 1: assess gifts, but the factors working against him. New offense,

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01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: new offensive line that has been pieced together and is

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01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: not as good as the Steeler's offensive line. I think

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Speaker 1: that has widely accepted as fact, and an offense that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have nearly the passing weapons that the Steelers offense

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Speaker 1: had to keep defenses. Honest, you don't think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see it in the box a ton. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he is. I get it. I mean that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be with a second year quarterback. I think it's I

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01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: don't know that it's gonna go well. Now, certainly, you

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01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: can spin it anyway you want. I mean, we do

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01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: that every day here with our team. I mean we

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01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: see the effort that goes into it, so it's easy

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01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: for us to spin it positive, you know, and to

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01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: do the right things, and you know, to see all

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01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: the effort they put into doing it right, into fixing

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01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: the problems and anticipating issues, all of that stuff. We

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01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: see them all the time here, so it's easy for

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Speaker 1: us to spin it positive. And I'm sure there's people

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01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: in the Jets organization over and Flooring Park to do

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01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. But from out here looking at I'm

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01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: not going there's a lot of questions that are big.

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01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here going, eh, I don't know, Maybe I

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01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: don't know your new head coach and show topic the

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01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: other day, which NFL club has the potential to become

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01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 1: a powder keg powder Keg. They were on the list.

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Speaker 1: They're on the list, all right. We're coming up, coming

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01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: up next to Steve Palace solo Pro Football Focus. He

1792
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: is the senior analyst over their Pro Football Focus. He's

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01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: also an NFL Draft college football analyst, and he hosts

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01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus podcast. He's coming up right after

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01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: the break. This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: We're from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's

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Speaker 1: Radio Files Radio Network Sports Update. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: cornerback Ryan Smith has been suspended without pay for the

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01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: initial four games of the twenty nineteen season for a

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Speaker 1: violation of the league's policy on performance enhancing substances. Injuring

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Speaker 1: his fourth season with the Bucks, Smith has played in

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01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: thirty one games with sixteen starts, with ninety nine tackles

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01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: and one interception over the last two seasons. Forward Michael

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01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Ferland signed a four year, fourteen million dollar contract with

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01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: the Canucks yesterday that has an average annual value of

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01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: three point five million. Ferland had forty points and seventy

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Speaker 1: one regular season games with the Hurricanes. Last season, Eden

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01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: native forward Alexia Follow signed a two year, four point

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01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: eight five million dollar contract with the Kings yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: have Follow had thirty three points in eighty two games

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Speaker 1: with LA last season, his second season in the NHL,

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Speaker 1: he has fifty eight eight points in one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty seven NHL games and one goal in three Stanley

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Speaker 1: Cup playoff appearances. The Clippers announced yesterday that they have

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Speaker 1: signed Leonard without releasing contract details. However, it was reported

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Speaker 1: that Leonard has chosen a shorter contract with LA, signing

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Speaker 1: a three year, one hundred and three point one million

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Speaker 1: dollar deal that includes a player option for the third season.

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Speaker 1: Romania Simona Hollop has reached her first Wimbledon final by

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Speaker 1: beating Ukraine's Elina s Svitalina six one, six three in

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Speaker 1: the semifinals today that yeah, I'm trying I do my best.

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Speaker 1: Hollop will face American Serena Williams, who will play in

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Speaker 1: the Wimbledon final for the eleventh time and will be

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Speaker 1: looking for her eighth title at the All England Club.

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Speaker 1: Williams a twenty three time Grand Slam singles champion beat

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Speaker 1: Czech Republic's Barbara Strakova six one semifinals today and that

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Speaker 1: tennis players are you a lot of hockey players? That's yeah,

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Speaker 1: same thing, same thing. Well, all right, that you're with

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Here from One Bills Drive, Steve task

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Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown. Right now, we're pleased to welcome

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Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Focus senior analysts, also an NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft in college football analyst and the host of the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focused podcast, Steve Palaozzolo. Steve, You're on with

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown here on One Bill's Live. Thanks

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01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: for joining us. Yeah, thanks, guys, appreciate you having man. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the first things I got to ask you

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Speaker 1: is you guys must get I mean, you must know

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Speaker 1: that fans go crazy and maybe some players and some

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01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: football people go crazy too when you release rankings of

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Speaker 1: players and how you rate them and some of the

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Speaker 1: analytics that you go through. How much pushback do you

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01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: get from actual players in the league about your rating

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Speaker 1: and their ability to produce. We get a lot of feedback.

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01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Some is pushback and some is you know, people patting

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01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: us on the back. It really depends on where the

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Speaker 1: grades are but you know, we've heard many stories about

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01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, how much players care a you know what

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01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: they know, they check them on Monday morning when they

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01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: get into the building. And you know, we've definitely gotten

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01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: pushback when people don't necessarily agree with their grades. So,

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01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's been all over the place, and I

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01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 1: think it just ky that comes with the territory because

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01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: we're doing something unique and something different by trying to

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01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: grade every single player on every play. And Steve, how

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01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: challenging is it when it comes to, you know, getting

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01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: the metrics for offensive lineman knowing that there are many

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01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: cases where they're operating as a group. Maybe you guys

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01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: may not know everyone's assignment on that line on that

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01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: given play, So how do you kind of get through

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01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: the weeds of all of that to try to get

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Speaker 1: an accurate measurement of alignment's play. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's that difficult as far, because you have you just

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01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: have to look at the game at a kind of

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01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: a wide lens view. You know, there's a lot of

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01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: nuance that goes to the game. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys that have played the game obviously understand how much

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Speaker 1: you spend the entire week preparing to go execute sixty

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Speaker 1: plays seventy plays. I mean, it's a very nuanced right

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01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: but once the ball is snapped, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: I can tell if the right tackle is going to

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01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: be down blocking on power and to climb to the

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Speaker 1: second level to go get to go, get the linebacker.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that we're evaluating these players on a

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Speaker 1: thousand snaps during the season. Even if we do mess

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Speaker 1: a few up, you know, or you know, miss miss

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01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: a couple of things, or miss some of that nuance, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's still going to get you in the ballpark. At

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Speaker 1: the very least. We've never claimed perfection. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if a guy looks really bad on a play and

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Speaker 1: there's even a chance that say the left guard was

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Speaker 1: supposed to help him and he was expecting help, We're

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Speaker 1: not going to downgrade a guy by guessing. We're just

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Speaker 1: you know, if if there is something that we truly

1884
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Speaker 1: can't find because of figure out, because if it's it's

1885
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Speaker 1: a gray area, we don't have to crush a guy.

1886
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: And you know, we could say, hey, you know, the

1887
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Speaker 1: scheme screwed up or there was a miscommunication, So we're

1888
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: not gonna downgrade. So we take uh, you know, a

1889
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Speaker 1: lot of pride in getting it as right as we

1890
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Speaker 1: possibly can. We acknowledge that it might not be perfect.

1891
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: But then, um, you know, we've got some smart math

1892
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Speaker 1: guys to taking all this road data and pushing it

1893
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: into uh, you know, the final grade that and they

1894
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: know not to necessarily focus on the extremes. They can

1895
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: kind to smooth it out a little bit and you know,

1896
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: mitigate some of the error, so to speak. We're talking

1897
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Speaker 1: to Steve Palazzolo's pro football focused senior analysts. I'm going

1898
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: to ask you too. We've got this debate going on

1899
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Speaker 1: today about the future of the feature running back in

1900
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Certainly, it's a it's a position

1901
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: that has been somewhat changed over the years. It's evolved

1902
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: into as much of a pass catching position as anything,

1903
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 1: but it still has that element of pass protection in it.

1904
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: And you've got certain guys who are committed and have

1905
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Speaker 1: the ability to do all of it very well. And

1906
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 1: then you've got specialists as well. So from one team

1907
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Speaker 1: to the next, how do you do you evaluate each

1908
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: skill set separately or is there a metric for wrapping

1909
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: it all into one package and rating these guys top

1910
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Speaker 1: to bottom? Yeah, So when we grade, we're just looking

1911
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Speaker 1: at what a guy did what he was asked to do,

1912
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Speaker 1: and then after the fact you can kind of add

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Speaker 1: context to it. So if you have a guy like

1914
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Speaker 1: Duke Johnson that runs three hundred routes in a season

1915
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Speaker 1: and only carries the ball seventy five times or whatever

1916
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Speaker 1: it is, you just kind of weigh those things differently.

1917
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Speaker 1: I think the running back position as a whole, though,

1918
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Speaker 1: the more our numbers day in, we see that they

1919
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,799
Speaker 1: are a little interchangeable when it comes to the overall production.

1920
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Speaker 1: You know, just looking at run game production, the most

1921
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Speaker 1: important parts of just gaining yards on running plays, the

1922
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: running back is fourth or fifth on the list of

1923
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: the most important component from what we've seen, so run

1924
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: blocking is more important the opposing defense. Just skill level

1925
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: is more important. The quality of your path game is

1926
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: actually more important than the actual running back. So if

1927
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: you have a running back that goes to New England

1928
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 1: where teams have to worry about Tom Brady throwing the ball,

1929
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Speaker 1: you know, those running backs generally perform better. That's why

1930
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Speaker 1: your right so, and that's the other one box. Count

1931
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Speaker 1: You know, if you have a quarterback who can simply

1932
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Speaker 1: count Hey, i've got six blockers, there's five guys in

1933
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Speaker 1: the box, run the ball. Something as simple as that

1934
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Speaker 1: Ufsex rushing production. So that's why I think there's a

1935
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Speaker 1: difference in skill level with running backs. You know, Zeke

1936
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Speaker 1: Elliott and Sequon Barkley, they're spectacular, but their output is

1937
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, be proportioned to their skill, so

1938
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: to speak. And that's why I think it's the most

1939
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 1: interchangeable position in the NFL these days. And if you

1940
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: are going to get a guy, you do want that

1941
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: guy that can affect the path game, creating mismatches, you know,

1942
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: take advantage of linebackers in one on one situations because

1943
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: it is a path a path first NFL. And while Steve,

1944
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure there might be some hard number type metrics

1945
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: that you guys use, there are also so many of

1946
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: those if then kind of metrics that you know, you

1947
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 1: just outline to a certain extent based on the quarterback,

1948
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 1: you have, how much respect his passing game gets from

1949
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Speaker 1: an imposing defense, things of that nature. My question though, is,

1950
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Speaker 1: you know, you guys are always trying to keep it

1951
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Speaker 1: fresh on your site. You know, new metrics or things

1952
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Speaker 1: that you want to examine, closer and develop a metric

1953
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: for How do you guys go into the lab so

1954
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: to speak, and maybe come up with that hot new

1955
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Speaker 1: metric measurement that might gain a lot of momentum and

1956
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Speaker 1: draw eyeballs to your site. How do you guys kind

1957
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: of brainstorm and come up with the hot new metric

1958
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: this season or if for next season, you know, if

1959
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: it's still in the in the development phase, so to speak.

1960
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: It's a good question because at p F we are

1961
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: there's there's different branches to what we do. We grade

1962
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: every player in the NFL, and we also have all

1963
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Speaker 1: thirty two teams as clients. We grade every player in

1964
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Speaker 1: college football and at the FBS level, and we have

1965
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: sixty plus college clients. So a lot of those teams

1966
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: are just using us for our database and the ease

1967
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: of access of what it what it brings to the table.

1968
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Speaker 1: But we've also added some really smart math guys who

1969
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 1: understand football. I mean four where college tight ends who

1970
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: have mass degrees, so versatile skill sets. They understand the

1971
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 1: game and they understand math, and you know, a lot

1972
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: of what they do is just explore the numbers and

1973
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: come up with stuff like you know, what if you

1974
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: had to choose a good coverage unit versus a good

1975
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: pass rush unit, you would take the better coverage unit,

1976
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, And that's a little counterintuitive to what people

1977
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL might think, where we have to build

1978
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: in the trenches and rush the pastor But the Bills

1979
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: are actually a great example of a team that has

1980
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: been really one of the best coverage teams in the

1981
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 1: NFL the last two seasons, and I think despite having

1982
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: inconsistent offense, that's why they've been in so many games

1983
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: and they've you know, just been a difficult team to play,

1984
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: and that you know, brings some hope for next year.

1985
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of just not going in with

1986
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: trying to find something. It's just going in and letting

1987
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: the numbers kind of tell the story and if it

1988
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: backs up a narrative, great, and if it's the Bunks

1989
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: a narrative, then that's great as well. One per goal

1990
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Speaker 1: is to just teach teams and fans how to, you know,

1991
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 1: I think, understand the game and understand understand efficiency. Talking

1992
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: about the Bills specifically once more, I know Lorenzo Alexander

1993
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: was in your top five for twenty eighteen production at

1994
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Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Obviously, you know seventeen, his first year

1995
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: under McDermott, he was off the ball a ton in

1996
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: comparison to where he was in sixteen when he was

1997
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: a pro bowler under Rex Ryan. So what do you

1998
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: think helped him most in eighteen because obviously he was

1999
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: a bigger part of their pass rush package this past

2000
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: year as opposed to his first year when, as I said,

2001
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 1: he was off the ball a ton. So how do

2002
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: you guys kind of factor in those things in terms

2003
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: of how they're used within their scheme. Yeah, we can

2004
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: only really grade what they do, as I said earlier,

2005
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: So you look at Alexander last year rushed the passer

2006
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: two hundred thirty nine times and had thirty eight total pressures.

2007
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, we grade each one of those rushes individually.

2008
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: Did you win, how quickly did you win? And he

2009
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: did a fantastic job rushing the pastor he was solid

2010
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 1: and when he did drop into coverage he had one

2011
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three snaps there. He was good there

2012
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 1: as well. Even if it is you know, around the

2013
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage type of responsibility. He's playing curl flat

2014
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: and he needs to just keep the ball in front

2015
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: of him. He did a good job of that limited

2016
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: big plays when he was in coverage, also picked up

2017
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 1: those two interceptions and three other path breakups. So it's

2018
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: tough because our grade doesn't necessarily say this is what

2019
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: the player is. It says this is what the player did.

2020
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: And then again, what we found mathematically is what a

2021
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: player did usually point to you in the right direction

2022
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 1: of what they will do. It's just a matter of

2023
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: figure and out the right component. So Lorenzo Alexander one

2024
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: of the more fascinating players in the NFL because you

2025
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: don't see a whole lot of players that are true

2026
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: linebackers rush the passer, and you don't see a whole

2027
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that could rush the pass or playing

2028
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: coverage as efficiently as he did this past season. We're

2029
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: talking to Steve Palazzelo, Pro Football Focus senior analysts. I

2030
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 1: had one question about Jerry Hughes. You had you had

2031
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: ranked him as having an extremely productive two eighteen season,

2032
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: being getting pressure as consistently as almost every anybody in

2033
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 1: the national foot pressure rate, Right, that was the metric,

2034
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: but he also he only had seven sacks, So how

2035
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: do you how do you square that? And I'm not

2036
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're a pr guy that you have

2037
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: to do this for the players, but how does a

2038
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 1: how do fans should fans digest the fact that they

2039
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: got a guy who's really supposed to be this elite

2040
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: pass rusher and he has an okay season with just

2041
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 1: like seven sacks, whereas a guy like Aaron Donald has

2042
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: like twenty sacks. And the big difference there is between

2043
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Hughes being ranked higher than anybody else

2044
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Speaker 1: as a as a suspensive line a defensive lineman and

2045
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: only hitting seven sacks, and you got other guys that

2046
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 1: aren't rated as highly that end up with fifteen sacks. Yeah,

2047
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I think it's one of the

2048
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: best things that we do. I mean even just the

2049
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: difference between seven and fifteen is eight that's my quick

2050
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: math right there. So if you have a fifteen sack

2051
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 1: guy and a seventh stack guy, the difference between those

2052
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: guys is eight plays per year if you're only looking

2053
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: at sacks. But Jerry Hughes rushed the past for three

2054
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: hundred ninety seven times last year, so it's actually doing

2055
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 1: him a disservice to only focus on seven sacks. We

2056
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: actually had him with eight because we don't half sacks.

2057
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: We don't believe that they're real. If you get to

2058
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback, you get to the quarterback, you get full credit.

2059
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Half sacks only exists because the NFL wants them to

2060
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: add up. It's not actually a better measure of player evaluation.

2061
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Speaker 1: But he had fifty four hurries, which was a career high.

2062
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: He had twelve QB hits, which is a career high.

2063
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: What we've found with pass rushers is we give them

2064
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: credit when they win and they win quickly, and that's

2065
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: actually the more difficult thing to do. So once the

2066
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: block is one, whether or not it becomes a stack

2067
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 1: or not is very dependent on whether or not the

2068
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: QB got rid of the ball, or whether or not

2069
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: you had another teammate get pressure as well, so that

2070
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: you don't have the quarterbacks easily escaping. So sacks are

2071
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 1: very dependent on other situations. For much of the time,

2072
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: there's clean up sacks, there are pursuit sacks. So isolating

2073
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: a pass rusher to one number, I think, does I'm

2074
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: a disservice When they play six hundred, seven hundred, eight

2075
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 1: hundred snaps, hughes on a snap or snap basis that

2076
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: was the best season that he had rushing the passer

2077
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: last year because he won often and he won quickly,

2078
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: which is the most difficult thing for a pass rusher

2079
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: to do, which is why we quantify it in that way.

2080
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 1: And that's one of the interesting things about it. People say, well,

2081
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: these guys don't know what they're looking at. They've heard,

2082
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: but it really comes down to the basic facts of it.

2083
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: And and you're right adding, if you win, and you

2084
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: win quickly and you sack the quarterback, you don't need

2085
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: to share that sack with somebody else who also did it,

2086
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 1: but you should both get a sack. And I think

2087
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 1: when you look at players and how they produce, that's

2088
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: the way they see it and s way teams look

2089
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: at it as well, Steve Palasolo, Pro Football Focus senior analysts.

2090
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I like some of the creative metrics

2091
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 1: that you guys do come up with, whether it's elusive

2092
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: rating for a running back, like just this past week

2093
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: you had Robert Foster at the top of the AFC

2094
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 1: East for passer rating when targeted, Like people here passer

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Speaker 1: rating and all they think about his quarterback. You guys

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Speaker 1: kind of turned that on its ear and applied it

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Speaker 1: at the opposite end of the play. You know what

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Speaker 1: kind of precipitates that kind of thinking, Steve with your

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Speaker 1: group to you know, put a number up like that

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Speaker 1: for a receiver instead of a quarterback. Yeah, it's all

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Speaker 1: about just adding context. You know. We put grades though,

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Speaker 1: and we put that we truly believe that the grade

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Speaker 1: because of the detail that we go into. We do

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Speaker 1: think that the grade is the best descriptor of what

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Speaker 1: a guy did on the field. We care deeply about

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01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 1: how well they take on blocks, the peat, blocks, beat coverage.

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Speaker 1: We've cared deeply about giving the quarterback credit when he

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Speaker 1: makes a great throw and it's dropped. It doesn't show

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Speaker 1: up in the box floor, but where it's shows up

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Speaker 1: in your PFF grades. So we think the grade is best,

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Speaker 1: but we think the stats are just also great ways

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Speaker 1: to add context. Where did the grade come from? How

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Speaker 1: productive was a receiver when he was targeted? All those

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Speaker 1: types of things. So all we're trying to do is,

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Speaker 1: you know, highlights the best players, sometimes the worst players

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Speaker 1: as well, but really just add the proper context that

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Speaker 1: describes what they actually did on the field. Something like

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Speaker 1: passer rating to showing the receiver. Again, it's not the

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Speaker 1: perfect metrics, but it's just a way to highlights. Here's

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Speaker 1: how productive, you know, the passing offense was when Robert

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01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: Foster was targeted. Up until you guys existed at Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus, nobody else really watched film except coaching staffs

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Speaker 1: and team guys who actually had skin in the game, coaches, players,

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Speaker 1: and the kind of people who involved with the teams.

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Speaker 1: Now that you've got this separate group that Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: who watches as much film as anybody anywhere. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys notice a turn? Yeah? Do you guys notice a

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01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: trend coming in the NFL that maybe fans aren't aware of?

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Speaker 1: Do you see something coming down the pipeline in schematics

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01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: or personnel distribution or things like that that maybe fans

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01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: aren't aware of that you could maybe might come in handy. First,

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Speaker 1: say like a fantasy football guy who's drafting players and

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Speaker 1: because of this trend, he wants to go in a

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Speaker 1: different direction. Well, I was going to mention offensive line,

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Speaker 1: but that's not gonna help too many fantasy players. But

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Speaker 1: you can certainly talk about offensive line. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: one of the most interesting things is our abilities to say,

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Speaker 1: quantify the blind side left tackle versus a right tackle.

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Speaker 1: I truly believe in today's NFL the right tackle is

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Speaker 1: just as valuable as the left tackle. I think that

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Speaker 1: the blind side in general is essentially a fallacy because

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Speaker 1: if the QB is looking to his left, the right

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01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: tackles all of a sudden, you know, protecting his blind

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Speaker 1: side and QB's they don't just throw to their right anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's not you know, it's not peewee football. It's not

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Speaker 1: old school football where every team was you know, right,

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Speaker 1: he's throw to their right. Therefore, the blind side is

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Speaker 1: protected by the left tackle. So I think the NFL

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01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: has started to catch onto this a little bit. You

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Speaker 1: don't need to completely overpay left tackles, and then you

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Speaker 1: don't put your big, slow, slow footed guy over at

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01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: right tackle anymore. Those guys have to block Von Miller

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Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack and Cameron Wake and some of the

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Speaker 1: pest pass rushers in the NFL. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing I've seen is just the importance of

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Speaker 1: both tackle positions, and then the idea that you don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily need an elite offensive line. You just really don't

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Speaker 1: want a bad offensive line because when you have holes

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Speaker 1: up front, that can really cripple an offense. But if

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Speaker 1: you can at least just be League average is something

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Speaker 1: that I think is just a very valuable commodity in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Average isn't exciting, but for an offensive line,

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Speaker 1: if you could just not have too many glaring holes,

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Speaker 1: you can get by, I think as an offense, and

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Speaker 1: not to try to unearth any of your state secrets

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Speaker 1: there at PFF, Steve, But when how fine do you

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Speaker 1: guys cut it in terms of properly waiting things? And

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to receiver, just because it's easy for

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Speaker 1: me to do this, But you know, you talk about

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Speaker 1: a guy like Robert Foster and you calculate his passer

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Speaker 1: rating when targeted, but a lot of times when he's

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Speaker 1: getting targeted, it's fifteen twenty yards downfield. You compare him

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Speaker 1: against a guy like Cole Beasley. He's getting I would

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Speaker 1: say it's probably safe to say higher percentage throws more

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Speaker 1: often because he's working a lot of those underneath areas.

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Speaker 1: So how do you guys kind of wait one receiver

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Speaker 1: to the next When you're talking about a deep a

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Speaker 1: true deep threat like a John Brown or a or

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Speaker 1: a Robert Foster here against a guy like Cole Beasley

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Speaker 1: who's probably catching five to eight yard pass routes as

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Speaker 1: opposed to those guys which you can argue are are

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Speaker 1: trying to pull in lower percentage throws. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: a good question as well. I think it's difficult to

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Speaker 1: compare players, even though we're in the business of putting

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Speaker 1: numbers on players and fans want to compare them immediately,

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Speaker 1: and we put a list that compare them. Ultimately, if

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Speaker 1: you're trying to build a team, it's about getting the

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Speaker 1: right skill set. So you compare Cole Beasley against other

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Speaker 1: slot receivers, you compare John Brown against other deep threats.

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Speaker 1: You know, so you do want to add and that's

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Speaker 1: where our database, you know, we get two hundred data

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Speaker 1: points plus per play, and you just sort through those

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Speaker 1: and you figure out, Okay, give me all the receivers

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Speaker 1: that we're targeted fifteen plus, give me all the guys

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Speaker 1: that are targeted in three to eight yard range who

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Speaker 1: are the best And a lot of that stuff points

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Speaker 1: you in the right direction of being able to sort

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Speaker 1: that stuff out. But it's one of the things I

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Speaker 1: liked about the Bills. It's not that John Brown is

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Speaker 1: great or that Cole Beasley is great, but they bring

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Speaker 1: two distinct skill sets to the table and much needed

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Speaker 1: skill sets to the table. And that's helping, you know,

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Speaker 1: put a good supporting cast around Josh Allen as he develops.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I want to ask you about, Steve,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, you and you combine

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Speaker 1: skill sets, and you certainly you combine you know, pass

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Speaker 1: catching running backs and running running backs and that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. Are there players at certain positions that jump

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Speaker 1: out and rank highly, like, for instance, se Quon Barkley,

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Speaker 1: the number two overall pick in last year's draft, seems

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Speaker 1: to be one of those generational talents. Do you see

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Speaker 1: that jump out in your analytics or is it just

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Speaker 1: from do we just take it for granted this guy

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Speaker 1: can do a lot of things. Well, how do you

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Speaker 1: quantify that? And do you have players, say, for instance,

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Speaker 1: at running back in a tight end who filtered the

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Speaker 1: top in every category? Yeah, I mean, is definitely fantastic.

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Speaker 1: You know, going back to my previous point about running back.

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Speaker 1: As great as he is, it's tough for him to

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Speaker 1: have a huge impact on the team. Even though he's

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Speaker 1: great in the right areas too, you know, the a

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Speaker 1: as a pass catcher and the guy that can create mismatches.

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Speaker 1: I think a guy like Ark Cohen is underrated because

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Speaker 1: he's so good in the pass game and the Bears

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Speaker 1: gave him a chance to be so good in the

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Speaker 1: pass game. James White in New England, I know Bill

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Speaker 1: Spans obviously familiar with what he does with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Those pass catching running backs I think are fantastic. And

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Speaker 1: then at tight end, you know, Rob Gronkowski's retiring, but

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Speaker 1: he was the guy that was truly generational because he

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Speaker 1: was a top five run blocker and in the best

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Speaker 1: receiving tight end in the NFL throughout his career. I

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Speaker 1: think a guy like George Kittle, though from the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, had a breakout a year last year.

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Speaker 1: He's a great receiver, but a fantastic run blocker as well,

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01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 1: so he's more versatile than say at Travis Kelsey, zach

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01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 1: Ertz guys that aren't as good in the run game.

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Speaker 1: So I think Kittle's probably that next guy that has

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Speaker 1: that good all around skill set, that old school thrillback

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Speaker 1: tight end type of player. Steve last one. For me,

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Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with football. It has probably

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01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: more to do with your process with all the film

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01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: that you guys have to digest and view, and with

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01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: all the numbers you have to crunch. You know, in

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01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 1: your various programs, is there any employee at PF that

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01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 1: does not have a corrective lens prescription? Our guy that

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01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 1: started this whole thing over in England, to believe it

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01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: or not, he developed the system and he advanced the system.

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01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 1: He grated every game back when they started in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. He's fast, he knows football, He's really

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Speaker 1: good at it. He has terrible eyesight, really really terrible eyesight.

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01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not great for the eyes. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. Steve Palozolo, Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus Senior Analysts, Thanks so much, Really appreciate you coming

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01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 1: on one. Bill's Live with Us sounds great. Thanks for

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01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: having me guys, NFL Drafting College football analysts as well.

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01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: He hosts the PF podcast as well. Steve Palozolo, He's

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01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: they are all over and I think you talk about

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01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 1: capitalism filling a niche people eat that stuff up right,

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01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 1: And I think the explosion of the Fantasy Football certainly

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01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 1: helped get them on the map. And then I think

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01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: once the NFL took notice, with the help of Chris Collinsworth,

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Speaker 1: who is heavily invested in this project, I think people

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Speaker 1: once they took a closer look in the in the

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Speaker 1: true inner NFL circle, I think they realized how much

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01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: time and effort is put in to the metrics that

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Speaker 1: they develop and produce. And there's a place for this

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01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 1: for NFL analytics departments to make use of and streamline

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01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: the process. These guys are doing a lot of that

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Speaker 1: grunt work, which is why I kind of made the joke,

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01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 1: like with all the viewing that these guys are doing

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01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: between game film and then number crunching and staring at

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01:54:55,760 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 1: their laptop and plugging in figures, I mean, half of

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01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 1: these guys have got to be blind without corrective lenses on.

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01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no way that you're you're spending

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Speaker 1: all these hours in front of the computer or in

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01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: front of a television screen and not coming out with

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01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 1: blurred vision. There's just no way that's right. So Steve

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01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 1: Paulo solo Pro Football Focus senior analysts, and there's a

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01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: lot of interesting stuff and You're right, there's a lot

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01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: of people who are really into it and the fact

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01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 1: that they evaluate these positions that we kind of talk about.

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 1: We've been talking about the running backs all day today

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01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 1: and we've taken some We've taken a lot from the

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01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: tweet sheet people who've been giving us feedback about what

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01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 1: they think the future that spot is. There's one guy,

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01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Edric from New Jersey, has been hanging on for maybe

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Speaker 1: a half an hour. Edric, thanks so much for being patient.

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01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live with Steve Tasker and Chris Brown.

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01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, guys, thanks for having me on.

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01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: You do you always do a great job when you're

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01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: killing for one of these guys are on vacation every

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01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 1: other week. Yeah, right, thank you for that's our go

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01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: to go ahead, Edric, what's on your mind? You think

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01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: something about the lead dog and a running back. Yeah,

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01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think that you're always gonna need a

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01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: lead dog, you know, in this league, um um, and

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01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 1: and they and they kind of the league kind of

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01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: went away from it for a while, but but I

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01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 1: think the NFL is a very They moved forward and

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01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: they to to to the old school thing. And what

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is is uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think a guy like how can I put it? You know,

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Speaker 1: we have Matt Milano out there, and and and let's

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01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: say at Oliver ten years ago, there was no place

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01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: for guys like this, you know. And that's because in

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01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 1: the last few years when we when the league has

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01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: moved away from that, from that running down your throat,

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01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, the big running back, that lead dog, you know,

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01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: and guys like the guys like that I've been I've

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01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: been able to come about the league, and guys like

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01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Spice have been kind of taken out of the league.

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01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: And and uh, you know, I got like Bart Scott

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01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: might not have a place in this league anymore. Well,

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and here's what I'd ask you, Edric,

2316
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: if you can hang on for minute, let me ask

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01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 1: you this. How many how many big time running backs

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01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: are there like that? There's only like what five in

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01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: the league right now. You got Gurley, se Quon Barkley,

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01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott, Adrian Peterson, and I mean Leonard Fournette was

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01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: the fourth pick in the draft, but I wouldn't put

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01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: him in that category. So, you know, so a lot

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01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 1: of these other teams and None of those guys won

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01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, so somebody is doing it

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01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 1: a different way. Yeah, so what do you think, I mean, Edric,

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01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: how if you've got one of those guys, that's great,

2327
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: But you gotta think you can win it without one. Yeah,

2328
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: but you don't. But I'll tell you what. New England

2329
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl. And guess what, Tony Michelle, if

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01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, it was a first round pick. Second

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01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: round pick. Second round, Yeah, second round pick. I mean,

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01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, you can say what you want about Oh,

2333
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 1: we got James White, we got Rex Burkhead, but at

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01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they got a guy who

2335
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: was taken pretty high in that draft. Yeah. And when

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01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 1: they when they beat the Bills, they ran at forty

2337
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 1: two times in New England last year exactly. And we've

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01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: been doing that for like three years now, guys, for

2339
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: the last three year. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean,

2340
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if they run it down the throat

2341
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 1: every time, because James White also caught what eighty five

2342
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 1: balls last year. I mean, they do it different ways

2343
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 1: with their backs, and that's what makes them so special

2344
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: because they can diversify, they can morph and change into

2345
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: whatever they need in a given week. And I think

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01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 1: that's why Brian Dable for the Bills is trying to

2347
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 1: do a similar thing. I mean, I don't think there's

2348
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: any question about that. Edric, thanks for the call from

2349
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Appreciate you chiming in as a good take

2350
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: on the running backs in the future of the franchise

2351
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 1: running back in the National Football League. We're gonna take

2352
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: a break, We're gonna come back. We've got what do

2353
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 1: we learn. We've also got NFL True and False coming

2354
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: up right after this. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's

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01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 1: Live Steep Task. Along with Chris Brown, we're talking about

2357
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: the future of the feature back in the National Football League.

2358
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: We've been taking a lot of feedback from We're gonna

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: take a call in a minute from Wayne and Cheek

2360
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 1: to walk. But from the tweet sheet brought to you

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01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: by Corgan Movers, Official Movers with the Buffalo Bills. We've

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01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: got this from Swice is nice. It's always it'll always

2363
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: be a part of the game. If a guy is

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01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:13,839
Speaker 1: good enough, he will be featured. The thing that changes

2365
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: is just how much and for how long he will

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01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: be featured throughout a season and a career. Having at

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01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:23,080
Speaker 1: least two running backs to feature is the new norm

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01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 1: if you want to make a deep run. That from

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01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 1: Swice is nice. Also from Brian on the tweet sheet,

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01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 1: he says smart gms will always look at the cost

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01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 1: to benefit ratio. Running back has additional inherent injury risk

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01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 1: and is easily replaceable with a committee approach. There will

2373
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: always be a spot for a stud running back in

2374
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: the league, but it's far more responsible to go for

2375
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: depth and value at running back. That's a great take

2376
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: from Brian on the tweet sheet. Good stuff there, you know,

2377
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: anything to add to those That was a pretty good

2378
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: tweet right there. You know, I was just thinking to

2379
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: myself during the break, like how many teams are successful

2380
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 1: with the committee approach? You know, people were talking about

2381
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots before we went to break in the last segment.

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02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, you think about all the running backs that

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02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:09,320
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers have cycled through. While Brett Farven,

2384
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers have been quarterback, there's a lot of guys.

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02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue that some of them have

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02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: been quote unquote feature guys. You know, you had him

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02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm on green for a couple of years, you know,

2388
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 1: and um, the big kid from Alabama that they had,

2389
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 1: uh Lacy, Yeah, Um, no, no, no, Deon Lacey's a

2390
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: linebacker here. I'm the big kid, um that had a

2391
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 1: weight problem and he played at Alabama. He came there.

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02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 1: He was their feature back, big hammer guy, and they

2393
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 1: used James Starks as his No, no, that's no, that's line.

2394
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:48,280
Speaker 1: Uh guys, both people are saying Dion Lacy jay in

2395
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 1: my ear and you over here it's not Lays a

2396
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Bills special team. Eddie Eddie Lacy? Is

2397
02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 1: that right? Oh yeah? Everybody's chiming in the back now.

2398
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: They well, I'm the one that got it first. My god,

2399
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 1: thanks for the help. But you know, so you had

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02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 1: him for a couple of years. But then they cycle through.

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02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: You know what you're saying, you get one of these guys,

2402
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 1: like I mean, they got they got what's the kid now?

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02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Greene was the guy that was running Aaron Rodgers,

2404
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 1: some of these other John Elway. They'd never have these

2405
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: big feature backs because they don't want to turn around.

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02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Hand it off. Yeah those guys, No, I tell you

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02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 1: to back it off. Forget it. I'm gonna throw this

2408
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: ball and if the guy can catch, I'll throw it

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02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 1: to him. But I ain't handing it to him because

2410
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: that's that's not how we win games. That's what some

2411
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks are like. I mean, they don't do that.

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02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 1: You get these unselfish guys and all of a sudden,

2413
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 1: they start with Jim Kelly. We were a fifty fifty

2414
02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 1: run pass team with Jim Kelly, Hall of Fame quarterback

2415
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 1: because he'd turned around handed off. You got a guy

2416
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: like Joe Montana, he'd hand it off to Roger Craig.

2417
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 1: He'd have no problem doing that. They're those guys that

2418
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: are they'd hand it off. The great ones handed off

2419
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: because they're not selfish and they're team more team Morian.

2420
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 1: That's my philosophy. I know fans don't always agree with that,

2421
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: and they'll give me you say, hey, you never won one,

2422
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 1: but hey, Jim was a first ballot Hall of Famer

2423
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: and he was pretty unselfish. Dude. We got a call

2424
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: from cheek Towaga, Wayne and cheek Towaga. You're on with

2425
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Steve and Chris. Go ahead, all right, Steve, My question

2426
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: is if he got a really truly great running back.

2427
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you pay him if he could turn a

2428
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 1: touchdown in from anywhere on the field. I mean, that's

2429
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: worth it to me. I got your Wayne, and let

2430
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 1: me ask you this though. What if you thought or

2431
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 1: suspected that, even though the guy has been the best

2432
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 1: running back in the league for four straight years and

2433
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 1: that you're and he's been working on his rookie contract,

2434
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 1: you have reason to believe maybe because of his off

2435
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 1: field issues, or because of what he said in the press,

2436
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 1: or because of his social media account, or because of

2437
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: his teammates and the coaches and the guys that live

2438
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 1: with him every day. What if they think this guy

2439
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 1: will take it out of gear as soon as he

2440
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: gets a big check. Do you still pay him? Yeah,

2441
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: he signed him to a short term contract. Make him

2442
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 1: earn it every year. What if he says no, then

2443
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 1: you're scowed, I guess. But do you have a question

2444
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:01,839
Speaker 1: I had for you? Why did you set constantly rotating?

2445
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 1: We have a camera that it's the camera moves to

2446
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 1: give this the set depth. That's a good look at him, servant, Wayne.

2447
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: That's thank you for noticing that. Yeah, we're not moving.

2448
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 1: We're not moving the set, the camera slowly revolved. We're

2449
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: all moving. We're on a rotating planet. Technically, we're all moving. Night.

2450
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 1: That's science. Yeah, yeah, okay, we're not appreciate. Thanks for

2451
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 1: the call, Wayne. That's it now, it's let's all right, Brown,

2452
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 1: you're ready for NFL truth falls. Let's get it going.

2453
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 1: NFL true false brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New

2454
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 1: York's Artistan Cheese. NFL truth false number And I gotta

2455
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Sometimes you come in here and

2456
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I want to get these in a fresh look, so

2457
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 1: I you know, sometimes, oh, you're going going unprepared, you're

2458
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 1: going blind. No. I don't like not unprepared, because I

2459
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: did read them. But if I don't have an opinion,

2460
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: I have to read all the stuff already to formulate

2461
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: my want off the cuff opinion. I can fly in

2462
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 1: and just say I know what's going on. All right,

2463
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: here we go NFL true false number one. Andy Reid

2464
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Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer even with out a Super

2465
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Speaker 1: Bowl championship. Absolutely, yeah, I agree, Absolutely he is. List Night,

2466
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: my coach was a first ballot Hall of Famer even

2467
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,880
Speaker 1: without a championship. Andy Reid brants in the Hall of Fame.

2468
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: Let me give you an idea. Let me give you

2469
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: his reason why Andy Reid is different. He played, He

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02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 1: started his head coaching career in Philadelphia. When he took

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02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 1: over in Philadelphia, they didn't have a quarterback and they

2472
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: were an absolute positive, no holds barred, laughing stock of

2473
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Speaker 1: a franchise. They were horrible in every respect from top

2474
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Speaker 1: to bottom. Under him, they not only got to a

2475
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they got to four NFC title games. Now

2476
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 1: they struggled in the title games, no question about it.

2477
02:04:36,440 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 1: But because of Andy Reid, the Philadelphia Eagles became anything

2478
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: but a laughing stock and is due to his coaching

2479
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 1: and now, of course what he's doing in Kansas City

2480
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. Well. And he was a quarterback savior too.

2481
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean he saved Michael Vick's career quite literally, out

2482
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 1: of prison. He saved Alex Smith's career which was going

2483
02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: nowhere fast in San Francisco. He gets him to Kansas

2484
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 1: City and turns him into a Pro Bowl quarterback. He

2485
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 1: only made one Pro Bowl, but you know what I'm saying.

2486
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 1: He turned him into a productive playoff quarterback. You know,

2487
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 1: and now he's probably got the best quarterback he's ever

2488
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:19,440
Speaker 1: had in Pat Mahomes. He is a dynamic offensive mind.

2489
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: There is no question about it. He is one hundred

2490
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 1: percent a Hall of Fame guy. And to a certain extent,

2491
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 1: look at the legacy he's going to leave with all

2492
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: of his former assistants who are now head coaches, not

2493
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:33,520
Speaker 1: the least of which is Sean McDermot, and I think

2494
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: that says something about him. I like Andy Reid. I've

2495
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 1: I've met him and been in production meetings with him

2496
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 1: a number of times. He's a great dude. Players love him.

2497
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 1: He's been a great coach for a long time. Absolutely,

2498
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Speaker 1: he is a Hall of famer NFL true false Number two.

2499
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 1: The Rams have the best offensive arsenal in the National

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02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: Football League. I will say, just for the sake of

2501
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 1: argument I got, I'll say true mostly because of their

2502
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 1: offensive arsenal, concludes their head coach. It includes their quarterback,

2503
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 1: who is resurrected from being a bust now is a

2504
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: really good one. And if Todd Gurley being healthy as

2505
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: he is at this point changes everything for them, and

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02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 1: they're getting Cooper Cup back on the field. So I

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02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: would say that team that would scoring fifty points and

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02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 1: forty eight points and doing all this stuff last year

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02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 1: that got him to the Super Bowl. I would say yes,

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Speaker 1: they will continue to be the best offensive arsenal in

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Speaker 1: the national football So we're when we're talking arsenal, Just

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02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: so I'm clear on this, we're including the quarterback or

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02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: are we just talking about all the weapons that the

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Speaker 1: quarterback has. I'm not only including the quarterback. I'm including

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Speaker 1: the play caller. Okay, I may go Eagles there because

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02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson's there now, you know he's back in Philly.

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02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 1: They have they have. I think Deshan Jackson's going to

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02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 1: blow up again in Philadelphia. I think that's the perfect

2519
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: landing spot for him. I like Cooper Cup a lot.

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02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:57,280
Speaker 1: I love Robert Woods, always have. I just I'm just

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02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:03,600
Speaker 1: not totally enamored with golf. I just think when when

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02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: it gets when you face a tough defense, and we

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02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:10,520
Speaker 1: saw that in the Super Bowl. What happened to him? Yep,

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02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm going Philly. I like Carson Wentz better, and then

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02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 1: I think the weapons are relatively comparable. You know, zach

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02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,480
Speaker 1: Ertz I like better at tight end than who they have.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say false and go with Philly, all Right,

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting take. I said true, you said false,

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Speaker 1: NFL true false. Number three, the Houston Texans they don't

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02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 1: need a GM in twenty nineteen. Now, if you haven't

2531
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: heard that Texans don't have a GM. They fired him

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02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 1: and they have not replaced him and have decided they

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02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 1: are not going to replace him. This is after the

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02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 1: debacle with the guy they were going to try and

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02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 1: higher away from New England Patriots. Now there's now there's

2536
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:52,520
Speaker 1: animosity between the two organizations. It was a big hullabaloo

2537
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 1: about how it was handled behind the scenes. So now

2538
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 1: the Texans have decided, Okay, we're not gonna have a GM,

2539
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna distribute those response somebilities between top executives in

2540
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:04,440
Speaker 1: the building. They don't need a GM in twenty nineteen. Truthfols,

2541
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 1: That is false with a capital F. You need a

2542
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 1: primary decision maker at the top of your personnel food chain.

2543
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 1: You can't divvy that stuff up. It doesn't work. It's

2544
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: got to be a defined hierarchy. And what this says

2545
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 1: to me is that Bill O'Brien's running the show there

2546
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 1: and that's why they didn't put a GM in place.

2547
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 1: And for Bill O'Brien, He's probably very happy about that,

2548
02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 1: because I think he knows he's in a make or

2549
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 1: break season as the head coach there in Houston. Do

2550
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 1: you think he's make or break? I do. They don't

2551
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and win a playoff game, I think

2552
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 1: he's done. I think there's too much talent there. It's

2553
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 1: too much talent there. You got what you got a

2554
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:55,240
Speaker 1: top five wide receiver in the league. You've got one

2555
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 1: of the best young quarterbacks in football. You've got a

2556
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 1: lights out defense with multi to pull first round picks.

2557
02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 1: You gotta make it happen, man, I don't know. You

2558
02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 1: gotta make it happen. I think he's done if it

2559
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 1: doesn't happen this year. The McNair's bounced him out on

2560
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 1: his ear. And and I'm gonna say this, I don't

2561
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,600
Speaker 1: know all the circumstances that went into the dismissal of

2562
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 1: Brian Game, but Brian Gaine used to be here. You know.

2563
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean took him out of Houston to be part

2564
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 1: of his front office staff. And I'm not going to

2565
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 1: claim to be the close personal friends with Brian Gaine,

2566
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:33,600
Speaker 1: but I think he is an accomplished personnel man. And

2567
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 1: to see the way they did him because they thought

2568
02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 1: they you know, they tried to pull an end around

2569
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 1: an upgrade and went the tampering round almost to do so,

2570
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 1: and almost got a major major penalty because of it.

2571
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:51,480
Speaker 1: It was a kerfuffle, karma karmas that, you know what.

2572
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:54,160
Speaker 1: So there you go, and you know, I hope Brian

2573
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 1: Gaine lands on his feet somewhere. Yeah, this day about

2574
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: what what this season means for Bill O'Brien. Maybe a

2575
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 1: side you a different issue. But if the checks is

2576
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 1: don't need a gym in twenty nineteen, I think now

2577
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:08,720
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, I think it's a dangerous past to go.

2578
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: But moving forward, when they get into it, the off

2579
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 1: season's kind of virtually done. Now, I think they can

2580
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 1: kind of get through a season. Yeah, get through the season.

2581
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 1: It may take some luck for them to do it,

2582
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 1: but not not an amazing amount. And I'm assuming they

2583
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 1: have a college scouting directors to the run the whole

2584
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 1: scouting operation at some point. Yes, they're going to, but

2585
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 1: to get through this regular season, I think they're okay

2586
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 1: now to get through the next five months, get into December, January, February,

2587
02:10:32,120 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: if it need be, you know, I think they can

2588
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:36,440
Speaker 1: do that. It's not ideal, but they're gonna need to

2589
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:39,880
Speaker 1: get one sooner or false. I am true. They don't

2590
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 1: need a gem. This I said, all right the NFL

2591
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Speaker 1: True false. Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

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Speaker 1: Artist and Cheese. This is One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health. From One Bill's Drive. We're gonna be back

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Speaker 1: with what do We Learned? Favorite part of the show,

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Speaker 1: We had pro football focused senior analyst Steve Palozzolo on

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Speaker 1: and he talked about our good friend Lorenzo Alexander. We

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02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:28,160
Speaker 1: asked him what kind of a linebacker Lorenzo Alexander was

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02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 1: and why he had such a good year this deep

2603
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,520
Speaker 1: into his career. Here's what he had to say about

2604
02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander in the year he had in twenty eighteen.

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02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 1: So you look at Alexander last year rushed the pastor

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02:11:41,200 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty nine times and had thirty eight

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02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 1: total pressures. You know, we grade each one of those

2608
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:48,960
Speaker 1: rushes individually, did you win, how quickly did you win?

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02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 1: And he did a fantastic job rushing the pastor. He

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02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 1: was solid, and when he did drop into coverage he

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02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 1: had one hundred and thirty three staffs there. He was

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02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 1: good there as well. Even if it is you know,

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02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:01,240
Speaker 1: around the line of scrimmage type of responsibility. He's playing

2614
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 1: curl flat and he needs to just keep the ball

2615
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 1: in front of him. He did a good job of

2616
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 1: that and limited big plays when he was in coverage.

2617
02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:09,839
Speaker 1: Also picked up those two interceptions and three other pass breakups.

2618
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 1: So it's tough because our grade doesn't necessarily say this

2619
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:15,400
Speaker 1: is what the player is. It says this is what

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02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: the player did. And then again, what we found mathematically

2621
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:22,200
Speaker 1: is what a player did usually point you in the

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02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:24,120
Speaker 1: right direction of what they will do. It's just a

2623
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:27,919
Speaker 1: matter of figuring out the right component. So Lorenzo Alexander

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02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 1: one of the more fascinating players in the NFL, because

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02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 1: you don't see a whole lot of players that are

2626
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,360
Speaker 1: true linebackers rush the pass there and you don't see

2627
02:12:34,360 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys that can rush the pass

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02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:39,400
Speaker 1: or playing coverage as efficiently as he did this past season.

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Speaker 1: Steve Palazzolo, Pro Football Focus senior analyst talking about Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Alexander Lorenzo was gonna come on the show tomorrow, Brownie,

2631
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Speaker 1: We're he'll come on and we're gonna play his intro

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02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 1: music and absolutely absolutely a good show today. Man, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on. I appreciate and we had what is

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Speaker 1: the future the feature NFL running the pole finish at

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Speaker 1: this thirty nine percent of the respondent said, hey is

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Speaker 1: always going to be a part of the game. Twenty

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Speaker 1: six percent both said it was good to have but

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02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:10,200
Speaker 1: not worth a second contract, and two easily replaceable. Those

2639
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:12,960
Speaker 1: are two different ones. They tied, and only nine percent

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Speaker 1: of people said no longer a must have. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. We're gonna be back tomorrow. We'd like to

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Speaker 1: thank George Bloss, Jeff Colton, act, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: jj Urito, Kevin carg James Robol, producer, Jay Harris, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being here. This has been One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive percented by Kalidah Health. This has

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