1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff Mom never told you. From how Stuff 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Caroline and I'm Kristen. Kristen. You talked about exercise before, 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: but we haven't talked about why we let ourselves get 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: duped year after year, decade after decade, and in this case, 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: century after century by fitness fads. Yeah, we have been 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: talking about fitness and exercise quite a lot since it 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: is January, and in our research for podcasts on things 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: like New Year's Resolutions and our previous sweaty history of 10 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: the American gym, we ran across lovely and sometimes not 11 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: so lovely reminders of fitness fads. And I'm not just 12 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: talking about like Jane Fonda and jazzercizing, but the weird 13 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: contraption things. Yeah, butt sculptors. Uh, there's a picture of 14 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: a man using a butt sculptor. He's he's standing, he's standing, 15 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: and there's this contraption sort of around him, and he's 16 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: wearing a full suit. So it really wasn't sweat inducing. 17 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, things, things that were scary looking and could 18 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: potentially hurt your organs, as we'll talk about with one 19 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: particular fad. Well and Essentially, what we found out was 20 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: that since ancient times. Of course we're gonna harken back 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: to the Greeks, the Greeks who were exercise loving in 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the nude exercise loving folks. Um since the Greek times, 23 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: the Greek times. That makes it sound like of those 24 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: naked Greeks. Yes, those naked Greeks. Back since then, people 25 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: have been building a tool to assist with exercise. We've 26 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: never been like a very pilates minded species where it's 27 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: like we just use our body as like a resistance band. 28 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: We just could jog. No, we always need things. Well, 29 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: because if you buy something, or in the case of 30 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: the Greeks, make something, I mean, obviously you're going to 31 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: get more fit, right. Well, the Greek's obviously thought so, 32 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: because we have them to think for something called the halteres, 33 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: which is a semi circular chunk of rock with a 34 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: hole in it that inspired the dumbbell and the kettle ball. Yeah, 35 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't just do push ups, you know, they were like, oh, 36 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: we need to be strong men. Well, I wonder if 37 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: it has to do with because you said strong men, 38 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if it has to do with some kind 39 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: of masculinity. Masculinity construct around like feats of strength. You know, 40 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't just they could just do either do push 41 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: up contests until the sun goes down, or rock they 42 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: could see a feast is can you pick up that rock? 43 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I shook? Can't? Person? Is? Now? I picture I picture 44 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: one guy like walking around outside of the gymnasium naked 45 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: and naked, and he's standing there with his hands on 46 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: his hips, and he's like, I really need to show 47 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: this guy up. I need to show this guy that 48 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm fit, And so I just picture him like with 49 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: a side I looking at the other Greek guy and 50 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: he picks up a rock, and the other Greek guys like, well, 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I can do that. He picks up a bigger rock, 52 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: and then it's just like pandemonium. They just continue to 53 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: pick up big rocks until they're the fittest men in 54 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the gymnasium. See. I imagine like one of those guys 55 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: walking out and putting his hands on his hips and thinking, 56 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I should have worn a loin cloth, but that's just me. 57 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: There is a breeze. Well moving forward, we uh, we 58 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: have a German guy to thank for for gymnastics. I 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: had no idea. So the German father of gymnastics is 60 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: Friedrich Lordvigian. He invented the parallel bars, rings and balanced 61 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: theme and it's actually like catapulted a huge movement in 62 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: the universe. We mentioned in the University know We mentioned 63 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: this in our gym History podcast. However, there were these 64 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: people who left Germany and brought gymnastics to the United 65 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: States and all of a sudden, like gymnastics was cool. 66 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: And this was in I think the late eighteen hundreds. 67 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: I believe that's quite an import yes, And wasn't there 68 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: something like the Germans didn't want an outbreak of gymnastics 69 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: to happen. There was something about like they were afraid 70 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: of the young people getting to nationalistic. Oh, I don't 71 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: know about that. As far as I know. It was 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: the opposite of the United States, where they wanted to 73 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: get gymnastics programs into every school because the American children 74 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: with some soft Yes, that's exactly right. There are lots 75 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: of impressions for this episode of stuff. Mom never told you. 76 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: Do you have one for jacku Loline? No, I don't. Well. 77 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: We also talked about Jacque Laine in our in our 78 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: fitness episode, our sweaty gym history one in the nineteen fifties. 79 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: So so Jacqueline was this big fitness guy, right, and 80 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: he was the father of you know, he had the 81 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: first exercise TV show and and whatnot. But in the 82 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties there was a little old thing called Jack 83 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: Lelane's Glamour Stretcher. I love that name. It does sound wonderful. Yeah. 84 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: It was the first elastic band used for resistance training. 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: And here we go with some gendered marketing. It was 86 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: marketed to women for quote a lovelier, more exciting figure. 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if by exciting they mean hourglass. And I 88 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: mean that's also the interesting thing about fitness fads in particular, 89 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: as distinct from just straight up exercise, where it's always 90 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: been sort of a gender equal game in terms of 91 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: they've always been products hawked both at women, especially like 92 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: things like glamorizers and fat dissolvers, etcetera, and at men. 93 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: But men's obviously have been more focused on like building 94 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: hulking muscles, doing things like American Bodybuild or Charles Atlas 95 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: is thirteen lesson course on bodybuilding that is still going strong. 96 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you trust a man with the name 97 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: Atlas holds up the world. Uh in the nineteen seventies. 98 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: I love it. This is when the roller skating trend happens. 99 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: The short shorts and a fair faucet hair and the 100 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: little roller skate. I would not have been a very 101 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: fit in the nineteen seventies, for I am a terrible 102 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: roller skater. Obviously. There no I'm going to say that 103 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: is the only way too to exercise in nineteen seventies. 104 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: I can roller blade. I'm clearly a child of my 105 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: generation because I can roller blade, but I cannot roller skate. 106 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: I told you about the time I ended up under 107 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: the vending machine right when I was roller skating. I 108 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: tried to stop myself and I couldn't, so I just 109 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: full speed jumped off of the rank and onto the 110 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: carpeted area and my feet went up and I went 111 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: back and I shot under the vending machine. And this 112 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: family just like nobody offered to help. It just all 113 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: laughed at me. That sounds like something from America's fun videos. 114 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: And I would have voted for it. That's what Bob. 115 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: It's almost validating. And then in the as we also 116 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: mentioned in our gym podcast, we have the emergence of aerobics, 117 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: the coining of the term aerobics, and all of a 118 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: sudden everyone was putting on their high cut leotards and 119 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: sweat into the now oldies. Well, I mean that that's 120 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: an okay trend. I mean if we're talking about as 121 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: far as fads go, like there are things out there that, 122 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: as we'll talk about, have been yanked off the market. 123 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: People have been sued, people have been injured. But aerobics 124 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: and even roller skating, as silly as it is, like 125 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: at least they get your heart rate up, that's true. Um. 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: And nowadays, while we were poking fun earlier things like 127 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: glamour stretchers and butt shapers, the stuff is still weird. 128 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: We still like, you know, people are still coming up 129 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: with bizarre fitness tools and also of course technology is 130 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: now playing a huge role their video games apps. Do 131 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: we need to mention we fit? Um? I was actually 132 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: I did? I did we bowling one time and was 133 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: so were That's not don't we your wrist? It was 134 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: my shoulder? Oh no, maybe you should then take a 135 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: zoomba class I have. It is exhausting, yeah, is it? 136 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: Do you just dance? You dance? I took a class 137 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: from a woman who can only be described as a 138 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: pirate because she had really big hair and a gold 139 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: tooth and wore red lipstick, and she had like a 140 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: she wore tight gym clothes but then had like some 141 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of a little sorry tied around her waist and 142 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: she I'm moving for Christen's benefit, you guys, can I'm 143 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: picturing Charro teaching a zoomba class. Yeah, I was special. 144 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Um well, I would also like to see that woman 145 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: wielding a shake weight. Perhaps let me take a moment too. 146 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: Who invented the shake weight? Somebody who knew that he 147 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: or she could sucker a lot of people? Yeah, but 148 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: I think you know what, Honestly, I don't know that 149 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: anyone's ever bought a shake weight in a serious effort 150 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: to improve their muscles. Yeah. It was either a misguided 151 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: exercise fiend or a comedian who invented the shake weight. 152 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. If you don't know what shake weight is, 153 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: I recommend that you google it right now. Don't wait 154 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: called today. Um. Then there's also the body blade, Karl, 155 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: can you describe it a body blade? It's like this 156 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: big pole thing or like a blade looking ski item. 157 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Kind of thing, and you you hold it above your 158 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: head and you shake it, and so the oscillating requires 159 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: you to use your massive amount of strength to stop it. 160 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: It's such a trend with all these the belts that 161 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: caused the shaking that's supposed to shake the fat away, 162 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: the shake weight, the body blade. There's a strange thing 163 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: in the human brain that thinks that we can just shake, 164 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: just shake calories. It's not true. Apparently we can also 165 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: hoop them away. Weighted hula hooping is all the rage apparently. Yeah, 166 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: this actually the has um some merit. In two thousand eight, 167 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: fun fact for avid hula hoopers out there, that was 168 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: the fiftieth anniversary of the hula hoop. But if you 169 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: don't want to risk the embarrassment of being caught hula 170 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: hooping in your backyard, there is a we fit version 171 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: of it, and they're even gym classes with weighted hula 172 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: hoops and a trainer in. Spokesman Jim White for the 173 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: American Dietetic Association says that the hula hoop actually can 174 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: give you a decent workout. But if you're a beginner, 175 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: I love this advice, stick with a normal hoop so 176 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: you don't pull a muscle, and he ELPs says that 177 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: that women are far likelier to be able to hoop. Well, Jim, Jim, Jim, 178 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Jim Jim. I feel like that's a little bit of 179 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: a gendered assumption. I've seen guys hoop. I don't think 180 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I am the worst hooper. I'm not the best hooper. 181 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I have been a professional hooper, though, who traveled with 182 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: jam bands, and not only did she make an impressive 183 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: living off of hooping with l ed lit hula hoops, 184 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: she also had some funny stories to tell, as you 185 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: can imagine. I'm sure, but that's not wiping away the 186 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: skeptical look on my fast. Well, raise your eyebrow a 187 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: little bit more, Caroline Irvan, because we're gonna talk about 188 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: stripper sizing, are we. Yeah. I feel like this also 189 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: could merit its own podcast, because not only at first 190 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: it was just like, oh, pole dancing could be taught 191 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: as an exercise class, and I get that that takes 192 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: some upper body strength to hoist yourself up a pole. 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Sim yeah, and spin. I haven't tried, but I have 194 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: also very little upper body strength, so I can imagine 195 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: it would be difficult, says the person who's never successfully 196 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: crossed the monkey bars. But now there are lap dance 197 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: classes you can take. There are stiletto workouts. I recently 198 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: posted that on our tumbler page stuff Mo'm never told 199 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: you dot tumbler dot com if you'd like to check 200 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: it out, like the newest you know, and of course 201 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: it's always in New York, always knew you. Work is 202 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: put on stilettos, woken out, perfect accent. Warning stripper heels 203 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: could lead to injury. And that's a warning. I think 204 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: that's good for everyone. Now on the opposite end of 205 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the spectrum, though, stripping from stripper heels barefoot running, yeah, 206 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: what about that? Well, people need to be careful with that. 207 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: This is either literally like going running barefoot or buying 208 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: those what do they call like, they're called like finger 209 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: shoes or something weird. I call them toe shoes because 210 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: toe shoes or ballet right, But no, no, those are 211 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: point shoes. Lord, okay, poe shoes. Clearly you are not 212 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: a button head, Carol Lot, but those shoes are what 213 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: non ballerinas called point shoes. Okay, I'm closing the can 214 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: of worms now. Um. Yeah, Basically they argue that we 215 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: should run barefoot or in these shoes because our ancestors 216 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: did not have fancy running shoes like Nikes, so that 217 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: we should all go back to a time of barefoot running. 218 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: But a lot of doctors, in physical therapists and everybody 219 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: worn that you shouldn't just jump into this because you're 220 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: probably if you're like most people, used to walking in 221 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: shoes of some types. So they do warrant to be 222 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: careful with such high energy or high impact exercises like running. 223 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: If you're going to do a barefoot yeah, especially barefoot 224 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: running on on those hard surfaces. Sounds like a recipe 225 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: just go to the Caribbean, find a beach and go running. 226 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: I like that fitness fab Now speaking of shoes though, 227 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: shoes are the reason why we initially did this podcast 228 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: because a few listeners wrote in asking about toning sneakers 229 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: in particular, and we're like, oh, yeah, toning sneakers, let's 230 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: do that, and then it kind of exploded into a well, wait, 231 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: we have all these other fitness questionable fitness things going on. 232 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: And if you're not familiar with toning sneakers, they sort 233 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: of resemble moon boot They they're tennis shoes that are 234 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: marked it did um to enhance your burn more calories, 235 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: improve your buttocks tone and calf tone just by going 236 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: about your daily business. You don't have to walk more 237 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: or run the thickness of the and I guess the 238 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: angle of the tread on these these toning sneakers supposedly 239 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: just to do the work for you, which any time 240 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: it comes to fitness and something says that it will 241 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: just do the work for you, Come on, people, Well, uh, 242 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: you know who else is interested in these toning shoes? 243 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. Well, yes, but there's someone else, Kristen. So 244 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: these shoes are marketed to women. Correct, yes, but I 245 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: have seen men in them. My dad asked me. Good 246 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Old Chad asked me if I thought that toning sneakers worked, 247 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I and a lot of people do. I've heard some people, 248 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, say that they that they do in fact work. 249 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: Maybe though maybe more that I was about to say that, Yeah, 250 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's kind of a thing of what you have 251 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: these toning sneakers. You assume they're going to work more, 252 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: so you're gonna put them on, You're gonna walk around 253 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Yeah, Well, Reebok and Sketchers actually 254 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: got in a lot of trouble. Sketchers in particular, I 255 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: think was just trying to sell Kim Kardashians. But yeah, 256 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the and we're not trying to be crashed, 257 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: but a lot of Again with the gendered marketing of 258 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: fitness products, the Sketchers was an interesting case study because 259 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian reality show star Um was their spokesperson for it, 260 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: but it was more like a spokes but because since 261 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: the Sketchers were marketed to really um tone the calves 262 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: and and the rear, all of the the I have 263 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: no idea what shoes look like because all of the 264 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: advertisements just honed in on her on her mind. Yeah. Well, 265 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Sketchers ended up having to pay forty million dollars to 266 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: set settle false ad claims in May. The money went 267 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: to provide refunds to consumers, and David Vladdock, who's the 268 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: director of the Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Consumer Protection, 269 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: said that the settlement is believed to be the FTC's 270 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: largest ever involving consumer refunds, and the settlement was bigger 271 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: than Rebox basically because Sketchers had more market share and 272 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: those those shoes are not cheap. The Sketcher shoes ran 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars a pair, Yeah, and a flip flops 274 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: went for sixty dollars. So it's it's they kind of 275 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: knew it seems like what they were doing. So the 276 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: Federal Trade Commission is on the lookout at least for 277 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: these phony fitness fads. Yeah, well you talked about like, 278 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, these these shoes are supposed to tone you well, rebox. 279 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: So Reebok in September faced the same the same music. 280 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: They ended up having to pay twenty five million in 281 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: customer refront refunds to subtle charges of deceptive advertising for 282 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: their easy Tone shoes. The FDC complaint alleged that Reebok 283 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: falsely claimed that using the shoes had proven to lead 284 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: to twenty eight percent more strength and tone in your butt, 285 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: eleven percent more strength than tone in your hamstrings, and 286 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: eleven percent more strength in the calf muscles than using 287 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: regular walking shoes. So yeah, I'm I don't know how 288 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: they could come up with these numbers unless people really 289 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: were actually just getting out and walking more regardless, Yeah, 290 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: and um with sketchers though, to me, the thing that 291 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: I found to be the most disheartening was not so 292 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: much false advertising, um, towards adults, but their marketing of 293 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: these shape up shoes to the tween set. I found 294 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: this post over at Sociological Images, and they had a 295 00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: screen grab from the animated commercial that shows a young girl, 296 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: probably thirteen years old. She's wearing her her tone ups, 297 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: and she's walking past boys dressed in a hot dog costume, 298 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: a cupcake costume, and something that looks kind of like 299 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: either doughnut or a cake pop. I'm not entirely sure. 300 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: It's a black and white picture. I would like to 301 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: date a donut. I would like a cake pop right now. Um. 302 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: And it was such troubling advertising because okay, no, it's 303 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: it's not bad at all to say, hey, you know, 304 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: exercise is good for you, get off the couch and exercise, 305 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: young person. But it was equating exercising with shunning food. 306 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: It's like, not only will you put on the issues 307 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: and walk your way to fitness, you will also walk 308 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: your way to never eating junk food. Again. That's not 309 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's messing. No, No, that's it's a lot. 310 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: I can't even talk. Let's not let's not confuse our twains. No, no, 311 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: talk about some some major league false advertising. And the 312 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: FDC is not just coming down though on toning shoes. No. No, 313 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: the ab Circle Pro, the Body Flex System, all these 314 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: kinds of things are cracking down on false fitness claims. Yeah, 315 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: the ab Circle Pro pitch woman said that it helped 316 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: her lose eighty pounds and then launch a career as 317 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: a fitness model. And here's what she said. She said, 318 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: you can either do thirty minutes of abs and cardio 319 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: or just three minutes a day. The choice is yours. 320 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what sucks all these people 321 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: into these fitness fads that are ridiculous or unsafe or 322 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: just playing weird. Is the promise of you ate all 323 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: that turkey at Thanksgiving and Christmas, now just like put 324 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: these shoes on, or put this vibrating belt on for 325 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: a little while and wipe it all away. Well, sure, 326 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: because this ties in so much to our episode on 327 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: New Year's Resolutions and thinking about the science of willpower, 328 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: Because I think the way that these kinds of fitness 329 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: fads get us is our flawed way of conceptualizing long 330 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: term goals. Because we look in the mirror, we see 331 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: where we are, and in our minds, IE, our goal 332 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: is to be something chiseled and perfect, and that's perfect 333 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: in quotes and some idealized image. And so of course 334 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: all of these things offer you the quick route to that, 335 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: because otherwise, you know, if we don't take it in 336 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: baby steps, it can be incredibly hard to meet fitness goals. Yeah, 337 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: but we spend so much money on these things every year, 338 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: not just not just the gadgets and the gizmos, but 339 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: also supplements and you know, diet foods and things that 340 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: promise to make us a better version of ourselves. That 341 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: manufacturers are just going to keep making them thankfully though. 342 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: And we've talked about the FCC. They are here to 343 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: protect us and take up issue with advertisers false claims. 344 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: And I thought this was on um Lisa Johnson's fitness 345 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: blog Lisa Johnson fitness dot com. She she has some 346 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: things to keep in mind when reading those fitness claims, 347 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: and I think one of them ties in very well 348 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: to the toning shoes and the ABS Circle pro in 349 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: particular that the models that they hire to be the 350 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: spokespeople probably didn't get where they are physically by using 351 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: the product that they're hawking. They probably actually went for 352 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: a run, or Kim Kardashian was simply blessed with certain 353 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: genetics that went straight to her butt And I can't 354 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: I will never be able to tone my button enough, yeah, 355 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: to make it look like that. I know. I think 356 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: it involves lunges or something. No, I thinks to get 357 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: that that lovely butt. Um. She also recommends to keeping 358 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: in mind that look, people, results will vary. Don't trust 359 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: anything that says lose five pounds in a week, loose 360 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: ten pounds in a week, because if you are losing 361 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: that much weight, something is desperately wrong. Yeah, it's not. 362 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: It's not a healthy way to go. Um. But one thing, Caroline, 363 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: that you looked a little bit deeper into that maybe 364 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe this could be a little bit 365 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: of a quick, quick route to slimness. That a word, slimness. 366 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: It's late in the day, limicity. Slimicity Electronic muscle stimulators, 367 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: which apparently have been around in some form or another 368 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: for a really long time. According to the British Journal 369 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: of a Rheumatology. Yeah, electricity has been used in the 370 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: treatment of arthritis, in particular since the time of Socrates, 371 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: using torpedo fish. Those are apparently very special fish. Um. 372 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: By the eighteenth century, this has really been in vogue forever. 373 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: So by the eighteenth century, electrotherapy was used to treat 374 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: various illnesses in se Specifically, Luigi Galvani figured out that 375 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: the leg muscles of a frog twitch when an elector 376 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: current goes through them, and so people are like, wait 377 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: a second, muscles, electricity, are we onto something? So go 378 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: to Reverend John Wesley. He actually speculated, and this is interesting, 379 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know what he means, but he speculated 380 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: that electric fire deluded the minute vessels and capillary passages 381 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: and separated the clogging particles of stagnating fluids. Hallelujah. It 382 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: sounds like it gets your gets your heart pumping and 383 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: your blood moving. That's a weird way to say it 384 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: get you. Maybe I should be a reverend. Um. Well, 385 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: the interesting thing is is that today there are still 386 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: electrical muscle stimulators because Luigi Galvani was around the money 387 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: and thinking that you can send an electric current to 388 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: stimulate the leg muscles. Because when our muscles stimulate, that 389 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: is a form of an electric current that is in 390 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: our body naturally, but electric muscle stimulators today are FDA 391 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: regulated and intended for use in physical therapy and rehabild rotation. Yeah. No, 392 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: e m S devices, Electronic muscle stimulating devices have been 393 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: cleared by the FDA for weight loss or fitness purposes. 394 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: They will not people, They will not give you a 395 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: six pack. Yeah. Even though in the nineteenth century the 396 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of electronic muscle stimulants became a fashionable treatment, it 397 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: became discredited by the mid nineteenth century, So you know, 398 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: we'll have to move on to that. But what about 399 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: jiggling belts? But we still found the and these are 400 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: the kind of like the glamour stretcher things that we're 401 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: talking we talked about earlier. Um, and I'm jiggling in 402 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: my seat, so I have one. When I when I 403 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: googled them, I totally expected to find just pictures of 404 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, like ye old timey jiggling belts from the 405 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: thirties and forties. Oh no, Kristin, they still exist, still exist. Yeah, 406 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: one site that sells them, and I'm not even going 407 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: to say the site because why would I claims that 408 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: they can develop muscles and improve circulation using vibration therapy. 409 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh and this is fascinating too in terms of the 410 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: popularity of jiggling belts and the glamour stretcher and why 411 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: it would have been marketed specifically. Two women said they 412 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to move around and get all sweaty, yeah, 413 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: because that's not feminine exactly, say all they had to 414 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: do with stand there, so it was an acceptable form 415 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: of an attempt at weight loss. Yeah. One blogger said 416 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that she used to go with her mother when her 417 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: mother went to it was some brand name Jim went 418 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: to the gym to get on the jiggling belt, and 419 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: so she just sat there and watched all these women 420 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: get jiggled around as they smacked their gum and their 421 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: mouths and said it was not a not a pretty sight. 422 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: But these machines were actually pulled from the market after 423 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: being all the rage in the sixties because apparently hundreds 424 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: of people developed serious oregan complications from it getting shaken 425 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: up like a can of coke. I have a feeling 426 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: that the rule about you you're supposed to wait what 427 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: like an hour after eating meal get in the water, 428 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: would definitely apply when it comes to the jiggling and 429 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: maybe it's more of a first thing in the morning exercise, 430 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: So what do we have to look forward to in 431 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: because his fads aren't going anywhere, we still buy into him. 432 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: That was one thing, though, one bit of scholarship that 433 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: I dug around for for this podcast and I could 434 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: not find, which was some kind of analysis on like 435 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: the patterns of buying into these things, like the marketing, 436 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: the gendered stuff, and how I could I wasn't coming 437 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: up with anything. Yeah, there's not a lot of research 438 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: out there that we found. So listeners, if you happen 439 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: to be in that field of research, yeah, baby, hit 440 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: us up right, because there's there's a lot on you know, 441 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: exercise in general, because that ties into body politics and 442 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, masculinity ideals and all of that, but specifically 443 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: with these like the mentality of how we for so 444 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: long have bought into these essentially like fitness quacks. I 445 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean I really think I I would I with 446 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: theorize that it really goes back to I don't want 447 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: to exercise, but I want to look really hot naked, 448 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: So I'm going to try the turning shoes or the 449 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: body blade or the vibrating plate thing that you stand on. 450 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't give that one. Like I saw one with 451 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: people doing crunches on it. And I tell you, Krystal, 452 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: I went to that website. If I can't tell what 453 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: your product does within five seconds of going to your website, 454 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: it's questionable. I'm buying it just to find out. So 455 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: for especially for the ladies. Uh. The American Academy of 456 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: Sports Medicine says that strength training and body weight training 457 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: are expected to be the top fitness trends, especially for women. Yeah. 458 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: They say that women are particularly attracted to the trend 459 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: since cultural ideas of femininity are gradually focusing on strength 460 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: over slimness, with fitness becoming a priority. So I want 461 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: to know, a year from now, two years from now, 462 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: are we going back to like the Lamazon Cindy Crawford 463 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: aesthetic where we're all like sweaty with headbands and we 464 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: look all like big and ripped, big and ripped as 465 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: opposed to like the Kate Moss waifiness strength versus slimness. Yeah, 466 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I think that I think we're moving a little bit 467 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: away from away from wayfishness. I better buy some self tanner. 468 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: But I feel it's just I feel like it's a 469 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: pendulum though that for so long is just gonna keep 470 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: swinging back and forth. And the thing that we need 471 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: to do a podcast on, Caroline spoiler alert, the stuff 472 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: on men's body image, because all the body image anxiety 473 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: and phobia is that for so long was talked about 474 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: just in relation to younger women and of course older 475 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: women as well, but starting with younger women were now 476 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: seeing in big numbers among men as well, including things 477 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: like eating disorders. So things to look forward to on 478 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: our end in twenty thirteen. Um, and yeah, if you 479 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned that if anyone is in fitness industry and 480 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: can offer us some insight into this, let us know. 481 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Anyone who has bought into any fed don't be ashamed now, 482 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: we want to hear your story the shame free Zone 483 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: and send us your story. If anyone owns a shake weight, 484 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: I would I would like to know all these things, 485 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: or anyone like the blogger you mentioned who remembers going 486 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: with their parents or grandparents to use an old timey 487 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: fitness contraption that would be fun to hear about as well. 488 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: You can send us an email at mom Stuff at 489 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: Discovery dot com or also find us on Facebook as 490 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: well and messages there. And we've got a couple of 491 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: listener letters. Well, I've got an email here from Amanda 492 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: in response to our episode on estrogen, and particularly in 493 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: response to when we brought up these scares behind estrogen 494 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: replacement and menopause. She says, I know way too much 495 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: about this topic. As an undergrad, I worked in the 496 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: lab of Dr Jill Daniel at Tuling University and I 497 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: was tasked with doing vaginal fluid standing on a wrath 498 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: to determine their cycles. Yes, daily paps mirrors, but to 499 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: make the story longer, the reason behind our research was 500 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: to refute the NIH claims that estrogen was harmful. There 501 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: was a huge error in that n a H study. 502 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: The median age of the women given estrogen was something 503 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: like eighty years old, which is about thirty years after 504 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: menopause would have occurred. Well, thirty years later, your body 505 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: won't have a clue what to do with estrogen, and 506 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: it happens to be an incredibly toxic substance. Luckily, women 507 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: going through menopause are given estrogen as menopause is occurring. 508 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: Dr Daniel's lap has found that hormone replacement can stave 509 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: off sides of aging, memory and learning, even if for 510 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: just a short period. Of time just after ordering menopause. Anyway, 511 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: I've since moved on to a lab studying graph versus 512 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: host dis ease so to do a podcast on transplants, 513 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: and you'll probably get a very detailed letter on that 514 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: as well. Can you imagine if it doing rat peeps 515 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 1: us every day? How tiny are the speculums? Well, if 516 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 1: you have any idea of how to all those rat 517 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: speculums were actually, don't email us, But if you'd like 518 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: to talk about anything else, you can send us a 519 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: letter at mom Stuff at Discovery dot com. 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