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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge podcast presented by DraftKings. I am

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Speaker 1: Garrett Downing and I'm joined once again by Clifton Brown,

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Speaker 1: who is stepping in for Ryan mink here on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and it's mandatory MIDI Caamp. This is the final stage

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Speaker 1: of the off season program. Everybody's in the house here.

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Speaker 1: This is the one week of the off season program

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Speaker 1: that's fully mandatory, and so we want to give you

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Speaker 1: a preview of what to expect over the course of

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Speaker 1: this week. Ravels will be on the practice field Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and Thursday and today on Monday is the big media day,

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Speaker 1: So if you're checking out our app, our website, our

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Speaker 1: social media platforms, you're going to see all sorts of

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Speaker 1: really cool photos and videos and all sorts of kind

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Speaker 1: of teasers coming out from Media Day behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: But this is an important week, so Cliff and I

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Speaker 1: want to give you a preview of what to expect

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Speaker 1: this week and the things that we're really going to

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Speaker 1: be watching closely. So just to kick things off, Cliff, like,

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Speaker 1: what is at the top of your mind going into

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Speaker 1: this week as you're going to be watching practice that

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Speaker 2: Well one, I mean I love the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: like you said, we'll have everybody together. So we've seen

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Speaker 2: the rookies. But to have the collective offense on the field,

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Speaker 2: I think number one year two of Todd Monk and

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Speaker 2: throwing to all the weapons. Kind of looking for what

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Speaker 2: we might see new offensively from the ravens. That's one

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Speaker 2: thing I'll be looking for. And then with all the rookies,

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Speaker 2: particularly you know, Nate Wiggins and guys we feel going

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Speaker 2: You know, with everybody in the house, they've gotten the

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Speaker 2: taste of it with the you know, voluntary OTAs because

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys have been here. But when we

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Speaker 2: really see the rookies on the field all the time,

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Speaker 2: with all the vets in the house, you know who

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, it might take them awa

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Speaker 2: of things I'll be looking for. How the newcomers, rookies

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Speaker 2: year two, there's a lot of excitement about you know,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens with Derek and me and you know, likely

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Speaker 2: maybe more two tight end sets and just howling and

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Speaker 2: Lamar's development this offense, how the offense is going to look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that over the course of the off season,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have had good participation in the voluntary workouts,

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Speaker 1: going all the way back to mid April when they

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Speaker 1: started the conditioning program. On that very first day, Lamar

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Speaker 1: And that's been the case really throughout OTAs and the

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Speaker 1: off season program. But there also is an element since

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Speaker 1: it is voluntary, of there's an in and out nature

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Speaker 1: to it. So Lamar hasn't been at one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: of OTAs, Derek Henry hasn't been at one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: the lists, you know, and so what excites me about

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Speaker 1: me camp is like, oh, this is everybody, this is you,

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Speaker 1: this is your team, this is your starting team on

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Speaker 1: projected starting offensive line with Dereck Henry in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, Zay Flowers or Shan Bateman, Nelson Aguilar.

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Speaker 3: You get to see the full compliment there.

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Speaker 1: And on the defensive side as well, you have Rokwan

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Speaker 1: to me when I when you see all these guys here,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this the Ravens are really good. They

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of changes. We've spent a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean the Raves are contender, point blank.

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Speaker 2: There's always angst, you know, when you lose good players

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Speaker 2: reminds you that even though you know the Ravens did

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Speaker 2: this team has a lot of reason to be excited.

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Speaker 2: I've liked the comments I've heard up to this point

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Speaker 2: about you know, they aren't who has forgotten last year? Nobody?

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's going to be an issue.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I feel the Ravens, you know, are really

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Speaker 2: the path to being a champion. Most teams, their first shot,

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Speaker 2: it usually comes with disappointment, usually has progressions. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has had disappointments early in his career. You

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Speaker 2: think the Ravens, in fact, I know the Ravens have

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Speaker 2: Tyler Linnabum, on and on. They're not Mark Andrews. They're

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Speaker 2: not broken. They're not broken by not getting the Super

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Speaker 2: in their chances. So this mandatory mini camp, the intensity

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Speaker 1: Well, look, these guys, mini camp. There's a progression to

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Speaker 1: all of it. And training camp is more competitive than

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Speaker 1: Mini camp, more physical and more competitive. Preseason games are

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Speaker 1: You know, there's just it all, it all elevates, right,

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Speaker 1: full contact practices, Like when you get your starters on

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Speaker 1: is there any are there any changes on the health front,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you'd like to see guys like Marlin

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Speaker 3: But you're not stressing it no.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, when you see a guy out there

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Speaker 2: So that's always a positive sign. But yeah, to your comment,

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Speaker 2: am I stressing it? No, because we know what those

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Speaker 2: the key is for them to be healthy, you know,

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Speaker 2: from week one on. So if there's a question of

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Speaker 2: but in the bigger picture sense, I mean, it's really

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Speaker 2: nice to see the Ravens from an overall health standpoint,

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Speaker 2: really not having that many concerns. I mean, you go

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Speaker 2: You know, there were a lot of guys you knew

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Speaker 2: I mean, those type of situations, knock on wood aren't

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Speaker 2: overall health of this team. Yeah, Lamar having another full

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Speaker 2: off season being healthy. It's really good. And so not

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Speaker 2: only are the Ravens deep, they're healthy at this time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they have a chance to have a really

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Speaker 2: So the players are gonna determine the offensive linemen are

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Speaker 2: I think that at these spots, by say late August,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're going to share snaps of this position.

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Speaker 3: Surprised, So we're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: in terms of another position to other spots that I

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Speaker 1: think that are ones that I'll be kind of watching here,

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Speaker 1: one is safety and I think that so the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have flirted with that market. Of course, Ginostone left this offseason,

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Speaker 1: and they've had Jamal Adams in for a visit. John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh talked about that and had some good things to

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Speaker 1: say about Jamal Adams. Are they interested there? We've gotten

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Speaker 1: plenty of questions that fans and listeners have emailed.

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Speaker 3: Us about whether they go out and get one of

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Speaker 3: the other.

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Speaker 1: Safeties is on the market, like Justin Simmons or somebody

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Speaker 1: like that. So safety is a spot that I like

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Speaker 1: am watching. So that's looking at like our Darius Washington

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Speaker 1: as an example, that's looking at Sanoosie Kine. What is

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Speaker 1: your impression of the safety conversation and that third safety spot,

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Speaker 1: whether the Ravens could potentially add somebody to that equation.

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Speaker 2: Well, the potential is obviously there, but I think at

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Speaker 2: this point up to what we've seen, yeah, you do

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Speaker 2: see signs that are dais watching there with Snoozie Kine

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Speaker 2: or you know, Jordan Tole's on draft fedde freed from

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Speaker 2: Morgan State. He's made some plays that they have. They

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Speaker 2: have guys stepping up who are battling and doing some

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Speaker 2: good things at that spot, and we know that. You know,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton's one of the most dynamic defensive players in

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Speaker 2: the league, and the Ravens are going to put him

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Speaker 2: in various positions that's where he's at his best and

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Speaker 2: can impact the game more, having some time close to

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage doing all types of things thaning

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Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton can do. So that makes to me that

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Speaker 2: number three safety spot, you know, really important and that

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Speaker 2: they want Hamilton as the freedom to roam the field.

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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully Marcus Williams is gonna stay healthy all season.

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Speaker 2: We know what a great center fielder he is, but

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Speaker 2: that spot next to him, yeah, as an opportunity for

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Speaker 2: someone to step up. So right now, I think there's

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Speaker 2: a chance that the Ravens don't at a veteran safety.

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Speaker 2: If Kin or Washington, you know, we're told someone else

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Speaker 2: show that they can fill that role, and so far

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Speaker 2: I would say so good. So it is, yes, definitely

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Speaker 2: worth watching. But if I had to guess right now,

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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens feel they have enough talent overall

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Speaker 2: defensively that that's not They're not like overly concerned that

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Speaker 2: they have to add a veteran if that if that changes,

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Speaker 2: and of course injuries could change the situation, yes someone

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Speaker 2: could come in, but I don't think they're in a

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Speaker 2: rush to do it right now. I think they like

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Speaker 2: what they're seeing from the safety spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's one I would agree with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like also the other thing I'll say, and I answered

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Speaker 1: this question in mailbag earlier or last week, and the

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Speaker 1: notion is like the Ravens loves to use three safeties,

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Speaker 1: and so do they need to go out and get

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Speaker 1: a veteran safety. I'm not ruling out a veteran safety,

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Speaker 1: but I think that like this the safety thing is

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Speaker 1: like they're not going to force that. They used three

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Speaker 1: safeties last year because I felt like that was the

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Speaker 1: good that was the best way to put their best

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Speaker 1: defense on the field. Like, so if it's different this

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Speaker 1: year or they could use more corners like they could.

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Speaker 1: They got Nate Wiggins in the first round and everyone's

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Speaker 1: really liking what they've seen they're seeing from him. So

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Speaker 1: maybe the extra defensive back on the field is putting

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Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins on the field outside corner and then sliding

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Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey inside as an example, like or using Arthur

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Speaker 1: Molette more. As like, they have a lot of options

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. I don't think that they need to

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Speaker 1: force the extra safety just because they did that last year.

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Speaker 1: I also think wide receiver, you know, like we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before. I think Devontes Walkers has made some

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Speaker 1: plays over the past. You know, I think he had

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Speaker 1: a he had a strong week of votas last week,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, I think this would be a

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Speaker 1: good chance for him to continue that progression and show that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he could be ready to be counted on

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Speaker 1: if the Ravens need him, you know, this season. But

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Speaker 1: like that, that's another spot that Ravens could add in

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Speaker 1: that that they've they've looked there at times over the

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Speaker 1: course of this offseason that I think this will be

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Speaker 1: another chance to see because this is like the reason

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Speaker 1: the competition battles like, well, they're not winning jobs.

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Speaker 3: I think this is the the last chance.

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Speaker 1: Like after this, the front office, Eric, the Costa, everybody

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Speaker 1: can take stock of, like, all right, here's our roster.

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Speaker 3: Do we feel like.

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Speaker 1: We need to add another receiver. Do we feel like

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Speaker 1: we need to add another safety? Do we feel like

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Speaker 1: we need to add a pass ours sure? Or do

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Speaker 1: we like the group that we have?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Those conversations are had all the time, but kind of

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Speaker 1: you take stock of that after mini camp and then

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Speaker 1: you can decide do you need to get another piece

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Speaker 1: going into camp? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Then another time would be obviously later into the

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Speaker 2: preseason when it's getting close to the season. Okay, do

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Speaker 2: we need to add somebody before week one? But I

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Speaker 2: agree with you while I receive it that you know,

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Speaker 2: Walkers made some play. We knew we had speed, and

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Speaker 2: he looks like a guy and only when he when

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Speaker 2: he gets open he's making the catch, which I like

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Speaker 2: to say, it's one thing to run past the guy

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Speaker 2: and then you know you either don't make the catch

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Speaker 2: or when it's a contested catch, you don't win. Those

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifties. He has looked like a guy that Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not only am I open if you throw it to me,

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Speaker 2: I'll make the play. Also was really interested listening to

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Speaker 2: Nelson Aguilar talking about, you know, the chemistry with Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson and what Lamar sees, you know, when he's making

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Speaker 2: the throw and he tries to anticipate what a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver is going to do, and how they went over

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Speaker 2: one play where they didn't see the same thing and

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Speaker 2: now he kind of got his eyes open by what

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Speaker 2: Lamar saw. That process is still going on. Obviously, is

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Speaker 2: going on with Walker, he's a rookie. I think it's

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Speaker 2: still going on with Shi Bateman, where there were some

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Speaker 2: opportunities last year where Bateman was open and they didn't

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Speaker 2: make the connection. It's still going on with Zay, even

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Speaker 2: though it seemed like Lamar and Zay really had almost

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Speaker 2: an instant chemistry. But those type of things, you know,

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Speaker 2: Lamar building chemistry with a lot of these young receivers,

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Speaker 2: with the exception of Agar are young. It's still ongoing thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, we may see Lamar get together with some

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Speaker 2: of those guys after this week of mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 2: before training camp starts, because again, I think they all

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Speaker 2: feel that even though they made plays last year and

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Speaker 2: feel really good about that group, there's more opportunities. And

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Speaker 2: again with Derrick Henry in the backfield, I just think

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Speaker 2: his presence is going to open up a few more

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Speaker 2: downfield shots for the Ravens all year long. And if

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Speaker 2: they can take advantage of just like one big play

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Speaker 2: a game that maybe they didn't make last year, it

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Speaker 2: just adds a whole new dimension of offense. When you

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Speaker 2: can hit on a couple of big plays doing a game.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have those ten twelve play drives,

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with them, but one penalty, one turnover can

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Speaker 2: derail you. When you just hit a team in the

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Speaker 2: mouth fifty sixty seventy yards bam, touchdown, that really can

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Speaker 2: flip a game in your direction. And I think there's

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Speaker 2: more opportunities now for the Ravens to do that, and

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Speaker 2: I think they want to.

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Speaker 1: Capitalize on that. Yeah, I'm with you there. I will

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Speaker 1: be curious to see and hear from Lamar this week

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Speaker 1: if that is something you talk of them getting together

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Speaker 1: off off site between now and start a training camp.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't put too much stock into those workouts,

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Speaker 1: but I think that they're good, you know, and especially

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Speaker 1: if the players feel like they're important and I'll be

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Speaker 1: curious to see if that is something that they plan

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Speaker 1: to do, and they've done that in the past. They've

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Speaker 1: done that at times this offseason. Lamars organized that and

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Speaker 1: made that happen this offseason, so I'll be curious to

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Speaker 1: see if that happens again, if there's anything I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of planned on that front. So there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: watch this week. We're gonna be breaking it all down

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Speaker 1: over the course of the week, and again, today is

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Speaker 1: media Day, so it's a very busy day here in

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Speaker 1: the Castle. Keep your eyes out for all sorts of

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes content from that really really fun stuff.

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