WEBVTT - Immediate Reax | Warriors-Celtics Game 5 NBA Finals 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.520 Good evening, swimmerl and welcome to the late night edition 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.160 of the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, Yeah, 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:32.280 it's Monday, June thirteenth, and the Warriors just took a 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.760 pivotal Game five. I can't believe the nerve of you 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.720 guys on today's podcast debating whether a Game five of 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.159 a two to two finals series was pivotal. Indeed it was, 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.240 and the Warriors win one four ninety four. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.120 We're gonna hear break it all down here tonight. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.239 I'm Jay Skeets, back from running a marathon and the 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:51.160 guy's holding it down. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.560 While I was. God we got Tasmelus, Hey Skeeters, glad 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:55.200 to have you back. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.240 What's up Tassy? 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.520 We gotta tap Hopoway, he's got the No Dunks Jersey on, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.160 be a little hot in the Kirby household, Tree Carvey, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:07.440 what's up many A? And of course the International Man 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:12.520 Mystery taken to the max Leyellis JD in the background 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.720 pushing the buttons making things sound sexy. Hello to the 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:21.000 stream team here late on a Monday night. Appreciate you 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.399 guys joining us, Get your comments in there, fire and 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.080 away the takes are hot. People are saying Wiggins is 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.240 gonna win Finals MVP in the still. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.960 Oh my god, the Wiggins game unable. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.160 Yeah, but dropped your comments both in the stream team 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.760 or if you're watching this sort of listening to this 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.959 a little bit later in the comments below, or tweet 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:43.200 them in at no dunk sinc. Yeah, entertaining game task 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.200 get a started, man. Warriors one oh four Celtics ninety four. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.520 Like I said, uh, but it was you know, it 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.000 was a one point game there until things got out 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.680 of control there for for Boston in another fourth quarter 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:55.560 they let slip away. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.720 Yeah, they will brew the day. Too bad fourth quarters 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.280 in a row. We expected them to bounce back in 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.160 a fourth quarter after that nineteen pointer in Game four. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.960 But it was fun watching the Warriors come out just 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:16.600 hitting hard. Every cut, every drive was intense. Andrew Wiggins 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.760 set up of Draymond Green on the second drive of 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.520 this game, or a second play of this game. I 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.120 don't think I've ever seen Andrew Wiggins move faster than that, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.240 and it just it's snowballed. He just he shoved off 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.639 Jalen Brown or threw Tatum off to get some space. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.480 Then Clay did it that first quarter, everything for the 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.920 Warriors said they're going home, their role players are gonna 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.799 play tough. And then in the third quarter, the Celtics 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:46.320 did the exact same thing, every single possession defensively and 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.720 offensively with purpose. So I thought we were lining up 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.240 for a great fourth quarter and no Curry to start 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.720 the fourth quarter, and somehow the Warriors won those minutes 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.639 by eight frickin' points because it was just wild. Wiggins 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.800 came out, set things up, and then some bad Marcus 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.200 Smart minutes, Jalen Brown losing the ball on two straight possessions, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.520 Tatum shot and airball. So that's why it's just it 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.520 was hard, a little painful to watch. I just didn't 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.240 want two games in a row of bad fourth quarter 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.040 execution from the Celtics. And really, you go back and 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.160 watch every possession again here in Game five, and a 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:32.320 lot of bad things happened for basically everybody. Udoka said, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.440 Derek White, you're not shooting well, you're not defending well, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.360 you're off. He brings in Marcus Smart. You could see 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.320 Smart sprint up to the scorers table and he kind of, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.760 you know, he was that over zealous Marcus Smart doing 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.320 a lot of bad things. That flop on Mark on 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.280 Klay Thompson that didn't work resulting in an open three, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.440 got a tech for complaining, and then he got out 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.520 Marcus smarted by Jordan Poole there on that flop and 0:03:55.760 --> 0:04:00.480 boom game over. Really, uh, that's that's why I hurt. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.240 It's gonna hurt the Celtics. I think looking back at 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.200 game four and now game five against same story lee hmm. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:12.120 Andrew Wiggins, man, this guy has flipped the narrative about him. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:13.960 Ars had this season. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.360 I mean, being a starter in the All Star Game 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.200 and then going to another level even here in the 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.960 postseason and then here in the finals. I mean, this 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.720 was an unbelievable Wiggins game. I mean, I'll just give 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.839 you the stat line. Twenty six points, thirteen boards, twelve 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.400 to twenty three shooting. Now, he didn't hit a three. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.040 That's where he the one area of his game that 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.320 he struggled tonight, two or three at the line and 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.080 then two assists, two steals in a block and he 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.719 was by far the best player in this game, which 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.800 is crazy in a game that has Curry going and 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.080 Tatum going and obviously some other talent. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.680 Yes, Steph Curry and Andrew Wiggins combined to go oh 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.840 for fifteen from downtown and they win this game comfortably 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.400 because Andrew Wiggins was incredible tonight. I mean, honestly, when 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.400 he's not taking those threes, and sure he wasn't hitting that, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.320 he can hit it fine, but it's when he takes 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.440 out little mid ranges and he drives inside. He had 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.440 the huge dunk, the emphatic dunk there on Derek White 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.279 at the end. He just really has found a way 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.599 to sort of highlight the strengths of his game and 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.360 play to those and not try to be anything else, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.560 not try to be anything different, because you know, when 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.760 you're the number one pick and he goes to Minnesota, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.719 he was expected to do all those things. And I 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.560 think we're what we're really seeing in his time here 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.880 in Golden State. He's just not comfortable being a number one. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.080 He's happy being a number four on a team because 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.919 that means he doesn't have those expectations. But when he 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.320 goes and he uses his speed in his athleticism, he 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.400 gets the right spot and he just takes good, better 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.040 looks than what he took where he's doing those in Minnesota. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.400 We saw those two or three dribbles, spinning around, fading 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.080 away deep mid rangers. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:38.320 That's not his game. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.280 But when he's comfortable and he gets to his position 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.840 and he rises up like he did tonight, he's fantastic. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:43.960 This is just a guy. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.960 I mean, he just looked composed out there as well. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.120 I mean apart from those threes that missed, and Mike 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.320 Breen mentioned it like way off there on a couple 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.680 of them, but he just didn't really look like he 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.800 could be sped up tonight. And then on the defensive end, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.720 I thought he also was fantastic, really getting into the 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.000 grill of Jason Datum. Now, I think, look, the Celtic 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.360 did themselves no favors tonight. I thought they're passing and 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.520 they're taking care of the ball. Was absolutely abysmal, and 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.720 they couldn't hit free throws, they couldn't hit three pointers, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.680 and then all of a sudden they couldn't miss three pointers. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.120 But ultimately, I think the Celtics I just cannot believe 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.719 how careless they are with the ball. Their first five 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.920 or six turnoves weren't necessarily pressure defense. It was just 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.960 like sloppy offense here. So for the Celtics absolutely they're 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.040 going to kick themselves because you get a game like this, now, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.880 it's funny. You want Steph Curry to get support from 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.400 his teammates, but you also don't expect him to be 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.080 quite as bad as he was tonight, not even hitting 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.599 a three for the first time I believe in his 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.960 playoff career. But the Warriors win this game comfortably in 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:42.760 the end, and so the Celtics had a great chance 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.520 here tonight, and ultimately I think they've got themselves to blame. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.440 But also Andrew Wiggins stepped up in the moment, and 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.719 Klay Thompson, who's also been a little bit up and 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.440 down in the final series here, he was also fantastic. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.520 So but the game sort of turned with Jordan Puul 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.200 hit that wild three at the end of the third 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.400 quarter there, banking it in incredible stuff there, and then 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.839 the Warriors just pulled away because the Celtics turned the 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.000 third quarter on its head. They actually played the Warriors 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.640 in that third quarter, but ultimately that doesn't matter if 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.160 then you can't score in the fourth quarter. So crazy 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.320 to see, man, the Warriors now one went away from 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:15.360 another championship. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.600 I think it was Wiggins that went and got that 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.680 rebound too to kick it out to Pool who got 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.880 the cord too. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.200 Yeah. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.640 I mean he's just the work. He's doing it, just 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.000 going and gobbling up rebounds. Tray, as a big Beef fan, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.440 you must be relegive like he is. Just like I mean, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.760 he was looking as he should be, especially when he 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.720 was drafted, like the most athletic player out on the floor, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.320 and he's just like going up in like just snatching rebounds. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.000 It's like these last couple of games, where were. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.680 You the Knight? Andrew Wiggins became Wiggins Island. This was 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:51.000 incredible stuff from this guy. I don't know if Slim 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:55.120 Jim is like an all Beef product, but potential nickname 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.960 for Wiggins the way he's born out there, because the 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.400 guy is springy and snappy. Shout out to my guy, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.320 macho man, Randy Savage. But honestly, Wiggins was the best 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.000 player from in the game. From the tip. He was 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.400 driving hard to the rim, attacking space. In the third 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.440 quarter he kind of disappeared. That was the only quarter 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.440 where he wasn't really doing much offensively, but he was 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.000 bringing it defensively against Tatum and then hitting the glass 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.760 and able to really you know, put a dagger on things. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.600 That dunk was not the end of the game, but 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.200 it certainly felt like the end of the game. And 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.360 it felt like this is the Andrew Wiggins game. The 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.760 Celtics got to win in Game one on an Al 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.760 Horford game. Now the Warriors are gett to win on 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.599 an Andrew Wiggins game. You gotta get a random performance 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.600 from one of your non stars to win in the 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.320 NBA Finals. The Warriors got that tonight. I'm with Lee. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.760 This was a winnable game for the Celtics except for 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.120 they kept turning the ball over. Eighteen turnovers obviously way 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.760 too many, but just a streaky, streaky game for a 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.880 streaky team. Skeets, I know you didn't. You thought it 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.480 was pivotal, But you can't go into Game six thinking 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.400 this thing's over Already. We've seen the Celtics bounce back 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.520 time and time again. The Warrior's got a crazy performance 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.120 from Andrew Wiggins to pull off the win here. Like 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.520 Lee said, Pool was instrumental kind of cracking things open 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.440 before really unleashing everything in the fourth quarter. This series 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.920 feels like it turns every fifteen minutes of gameplay. You know, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.839 it felt like it was over in the first quarter. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.480 Then the Celtics good in this. Then the Warriors were back, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.560 and Andrew Wiggins is suddenly looking like Mapel Jordan out there, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.640 who knows what's going on. Wiggins was incredible though to 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:27.320 watch tonight. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.080 Uh, yeah, you're right. I mean, still, it's a game 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.839 five guys, we kept the game pivotal. Then suddenly you 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.760 guys are telling me it's not I didn't like that, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.160 But I also feel like the Warriors. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.599 Won the championship tonight. I think that. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:40.160 I don't. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.560 I don't think they're gonna be beaten twice in a row. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.800 But that all said. You said it, Trey. It's like 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.560 up is down, down is up half the time in 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.719 this series, like you think you've figured it out. It's like, oh, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.319 the Warriors, they dominate the third quarter, that's their thing, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.400 and then suddenly it's the Celtics thing. And you said it, Lee, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.199 nobody can hit a three for quarters at a time, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.199 and then nobody can the three, like just because the 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.679 fluctuation is sort of all over the map here. But yeah, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.080 what else from the Warriors tonight? You know impress I 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.400 mean obviously Wiggins task, but other moves that Kerr made, 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.360 you know, minutes from like Gary Pitton. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:12.920 Second, what else jumped out to you? 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.120 Well, just first on Wiggins because obviously he's not a 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.079 number one guy in the NBA, but he was a 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.400 number one guy tonight and they needed him to be. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:24.960 I thought in the fourth quarter at the beginning of 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.000 that fourth quarter, when they Curry was sitting on the bench, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.439 they needed a guy to go to and there was 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.840 a possession where you know, he kind of had the 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.080 ball up top. Usual Wiggins, we would think, okay, he'll 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.200 pass the ball, but from up top, he just decided, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.120 I'm going directly to the hoop, hard drive for a score. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.280 And you know, we've been saying that the team has 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.160 been riding Steph Curry's back all series. Totally true. He 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.400 was a fantastic decoy tonight, fantastic passer tonight, but they 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.720 rode Wiggins back tonight. And another thing, he played forty 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.280 three minutes, led the team in minutes. Again. It's something 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.560 that you know, we talked about the other the other day, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.480 the A. C. Green Award the most resilient, the guy 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.760 who plays day in and day out. Andrew Wiggins has 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.800 done that his whole career. And they've leaned on him 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.079 to be that guy to to defend the other guy's 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.360 or the other team's best player throughout the playoffs. He 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.000 did another good job on Jason Tatum force him into 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.640 an air ball there in the fourth quarter. And uh yeah, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.319 he's he's the A C. Green Award. I know you 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.600 want to hand out also a Most Valuable Canadian Award 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.040 in the final seats. I think he might win it. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.360 He's got that locked up. Yeah for sure. I think 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.240 that's I don't think Stu is going to steal it 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:34.600 from him. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.199 Yeah, I couldn't think of another one. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:43.840 Yeah he is the other one. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:40.240 Yeah. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:50.719 Yeah, he's been a rock. He has been a rock. Amazing, amazing, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.040 and yeah, just to see him play with some some force, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.160 it's it's on Wiggins like but yeah. On the day 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:01.000 we talked about Steph Curry being the best stef he 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.760 ever was one hundred and thirty two straight playoff games. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.680 He had hit a three in until tonight. Until his 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:12.240 one hundred and thirty third, he just kept missing shots. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.199 So you could see him with his assistant coaches like, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.880 what the hell is going on with my flick and 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.960 it ain't going down? What is happening, and that was 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.520 odd to see. But yeah, he was setting guys up. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:27.280 He was playing hard on defense. And the scary part 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:32.360 for the Boston Celtics is they saw the Warriors get 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.040 performances from so many guys not named Steph at home. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.880 You know, things can change the other way. But I 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:43.200 guess the clutch time minutes in this series have mattered. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.560 The worry and the coming into this series that the 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.080 Boston Celtics hadn't been very good even in the postseason 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.760 and the last two rounds in clutch time. He saw 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.120 it in Game four. Obviously, Tray brought up Game one 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.920 where they demolished the Warriors, that huge comeback, but that 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.680 was different. It wasn't really you know, an uppercut versus 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.680 upper cut boxing type fight where you guys throw a 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.680 big shot, we throw a big shot. They got the 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.400 momentum at the beginning of that game in the four, 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.200 started the beginning of that fourth quarter and just kept rolling. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.280 They just haven't had, you know, that typical finals game 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.160 where they you know, took a big shot from the 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.240 other team and then respond and took a big shot 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.600 from the team that responded. They were two and four 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.440 in the last two rounds in games that went to 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.840 clutch time, games that went down to the wire, and 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.760 they just haven't been able to do that. We just 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:36.560 saw two bad games where they just flubbed in the 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.720 fourth quarter, and they really haven't done it this series. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.640 I know Game one was somewhat of it ended up 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.160 being clutch time, but it was a different game to me. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.160 So that's that's kind of scary going forward because it's 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.040 like they have to blow out the Warriors to win. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.040 Why do you think that is? Why do you think 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.280 that's happened? Right? I mean, do you have a guess? 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:58.560 Is it? 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.679 You know they're still quote unquote young. It's a lack 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.040 of experience. Warriors have been here, done that, you know, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.520 not that Wigins has, But like, what do you think the. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.480 Celtics tend to get away from the things they do 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.600 best at the absolute worst times? You know? I felt 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.240 like Jalen Brown was playing in a crowd almost the 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.040 entirety of tonight. He just could not get loose for 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.160 the For the most part of the game, Tatum was 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:24.680 at his best when he was able to get to 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.880 his step back jumpers, and at his worst when he 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.000 was trying to create inside and not necessarily be able 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:35.920 to find fine teammates. The things that always work best 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.640 for the Celtics are like simple plays, keeping things going, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.040 move it side to side, keep going. But the Celtics 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.440 were taken out of their actions by the Warriors. They 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.840 should have been able to feast inside a little bit here. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.520 You know, they got no points basically from Al Horford. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.320 Robert Williams didn't have the same impact that he's been having. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.680 You have looney and foul trouble for most of this game. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.200 Draymond Green filed out for the third time in five 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:00.400 Finals games, an amazing stat the Dale Davis Award. You 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.360 would think the Celtics would be able to get something 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.840 going inside with both of the Warriors two interior defenders 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.200 mostly glued to the bench or at least only able 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.440 to go with one big for most of the time. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.320 But for you know, the past four or five seasons, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.000 there have been times when the Celtics turned into a 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.600 jump shooting team, and there have been times, certainly in 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.160 this Finals, when they really had trouble with the crowds 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.280 that are inside in the paint that the Warriors are 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.320 able to do when they're swarming because they know what 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.400 they're sending late help, they might be able to get 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.120 a steal. They got eighteen turnovers tonight, We're able to 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.400 turn that into a whole bunch of points. The Celtics 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.960 just seemed to make things harder on themselves than they 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.360 need to, and it happens quite a bit, quite a bit. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.400 Yeah, Jaellen Brown ended up with five turnovers. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.960 Lee and tatled with four and Jalalen Brown had a 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:48.160 really bad game. He picked a bad timing in the finals. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.360 Here to go five of eighteen and he couldn't hit 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.600 a three. So add him to the list of guys 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.480 that couldn't hit one tonight. But the five turnovers and 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.520 just you know, he got to the line. I mean 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.360 he was attacking, but they were I mean Dreamond was 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.160 on him a lot, and switches and stuff like that. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.160 They sort of bottled him up and realized, you know, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.440 making him have to put it on the ground in 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.800 with bodies that reaching in and probably grabbing a little bit, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.560 that's he could be in for a. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.040 Long night and that was a rough one for him. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.160 Yeah, he was definitely trying to force the action. The 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.840 interesting dilemma that they have there is Robert Williams was 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.480 a plus eleven in his minutes tonight. He's the only 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.240 one who finished in a positive for the Celtics. So again, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:26.800 once he's out on the floor, and I think you 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.520 saw it late when they took him out and Steph 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.640 drove inside and got that left handed layup for a 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.440 team and a guy who'd been struggling. Steph basically saw 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.120 no Robert Williams and said, all right, well, I'll just 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.720 go inside then, because no one else can protect the 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.440 paint and the rim in the same way he can. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.640 But again, I wonder if it's to do with the injury, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.160 his stamina or whatever it is the Dudoka is going with. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.320 Maybe he's trying to get more offense and trying to 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:51.000 spread the floor, But quite simply, Robert Williams when he 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.360 is on the on the court, he's been extremely effective 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.760 for Boston this entire series. So I think he has 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.440 to figure out a way to not have maybe him 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.120 and Horford out there at the same time and just 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.680 see if Williams, because we've seen with his speed and 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.880 his athleticism, he can get out and sort of cover 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.880 shots so he can make up for lost ground there 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.760 and maybe that's what Udoka needs to do more of 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.399 in game six. I thought Draymond Green though tonight, was 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.359 actually much better certainly. I mean, he basically just had 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.960 to turn up and be better than he was there 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.280 in Game four. But what I liked is early on 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.200 he attacked the pain and he got that big dunk, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.240 and he was sort of making smarter moves tonight. You know, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.600 he only ended up finishing with a handful of points there, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.000 but I just he finished eight points, eight rebound, seven sists, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.160 and he did foul out. Okay, not great, but that's 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:36.919 sort of the way he plays, you know, he pushes 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.639 things to the limit there. But he just seemed to 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.280 be certainly he rebounded from that terrible Game four and 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.919 that was really I think early on you wanted to 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.280 sort of see that, and I think he did set 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.480 the tone a little bit there. So that was huge, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.200 I think for the Golden State Warriors, and then Clay 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.359 Thompson as well. He obviously picked up his game and 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.119 continues to. He's not quite looking like Clay but maybe 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.560 and hopefully we get massive Game six play again, that 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.680 would be all to close out there in Boston for him. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.280 But yeah, this one for the Celtics, they're going to 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.080 look back at this one and just figure out or 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.159 try to figure out, like, how do we get that 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.760 best lineup out there on the floor at all times and. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.400 Go back to because basically, the Celtics. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.520 Won seven and a half quarters of Game three and 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.080 four in Boston. They lose that last half of the 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.800 last quarter and end up losing the game. But other 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.960 than that, and what I noticed was they were attacking inside, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.240 just trying to go at Steph, trying to get him 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.960 basically into the paint, mustling him into the paint and score. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.200 Marcus Smartt did a ton of that in Game three 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.159 and he's gone really a long way away from that. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.360 So I think that's what it is for the Celtics 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.520 is is take smarter shots and god damn it, keep 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.160 better possession of the ball. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:42.040 Man. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.600 I was frustrated sitting in the house here by myself, 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.919 just going these guys. If I did that when I 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.560 was in under twelves, i'd be on the bench. But 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.720 they're just sloppily just the pine. But the thing is 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.600 they haven't learnt this lesson themselves throughout the playoffs. They 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.199 did exactly the same thing against the Bucks and they 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.800