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Application times may vary 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:48.000 and rates may vary. Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd and 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.560 welcome to d Thursday, or call it the Long Weekend 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.800 edition of the Chuck Podcast. So twenty four hours ago, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.040 I I'll be honest. Right as I was recording, we 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.440 knew that he was going to get an exit ramp 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:06.360 on all Things Iran, and then he sort of did 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:10.760 his typical you know almost celebratory aspect of things that 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.560 looked like he was suddenly business partners with Iran, even 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.640 floating the idea of a joint venture to collect tolls 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:18.200 on the straight up. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:19.760 Hoorn moves well. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.560 Needless to say, if you're trying to figure out what 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.480 is going on in Iran, you're not alone. Is the 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.040 straight open or clothed? Is the ceasefire holding or not? 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.400 Are we done with this war or not? Because if 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.640 you listen to Pete Hegseth, it's over. If you listen 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.360 to General Kane not so much. And who knows about 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:44.280 the president. This is easily turning into one of the 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:49.280 more humiliating moments in American modern American history. I mean, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:55.880 this is this is nothing short of a debacle for 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:03.600 American prestige. Throw in a concern about whether any ally 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.200 can trust us, whether you're Israel, whether you're Europe, whether 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.520 you're a Gulf state, your cutter. We could judge whether 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.760 these how close these allies can be. But Donald Trump 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.480 is proving to be an erratic partner. And before I 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.320 get into what I think the fallout and where we're going, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.080 I wanted to just remind ourselves, you know, boy could 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.840 anybody have seen this coming, this idea that we would 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.360 have somebody running American form policy as the commander in 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:41.080 chief who would create, somehow take situations which were impossible 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:45.800 to make worse, and he would make them worse, like Oh, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.920 I don't know, handing the Iranian regime the control over 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:49.560 the Strait. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.320 Of Hormuz. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.840 And you and you ask yourself, cheeze, did anybody raise 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:01.920 any red flags about this? Anybody? Well, it turns out 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:09.000 some of President Trump's most important supporters these days, we're actually. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:10.360 The ones. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.560 Sounding the alarm the loudest, arguably back in twenty sixteen. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:21.880 And it feels very important for us to go back 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.680 and remind ourselves because we're in this situation where we 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:34.520 have just pissed away American American prestige in the Middle 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.599 East in particular. But it is just a total and 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.680 complete mess. Whether it's our relationship with Europe, whether it's 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.400 our relationship with Southeast Asia, whether it's our relationship in 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.360 North America, whether it's a relationship with Israel, whether it's 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.800 our relationship with Saudi Arabia UAE Kadhar. And again, I 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.680 go back to what I said earlier, Some of these relationships. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:54.360 Some of you may not. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.240 Like the United States having at all, but whatever you think, 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.640 when you make a commitment in the name the United 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:05.040 States of America, you would assume any American president is 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:05.840 going to stick by it. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.760 But I wanted to just. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:13.719 Make sure I was not hallucinating when we were watching 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.080 this debacle happen and we're living it in real time 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.360 and it's all impacting our pocketbooks. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:21.760 And then some. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:29.200 I thought it would be important to remind folks that 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.839 there were plenty of warnings out there, and remind folks 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:37.360 that there are Republicans in power today who were concerned 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:43.000 about exactly what has happened. And when you hear their silence, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.760 now you should be outraged, and you should and then some. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:54.640 So let's start with Lindsey Graham again. This is in 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.560 May of twenty sixteen. In an interview with Time Magazine, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.280 Lindsay Graham May six Trump is basically the nominee by 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.840 this point, okay, and Lindsay Graham says the following. I 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.400 just believe his temperament and judgment is not sufficient to 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.080 be commander in chief of the finest fighting force in 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:17.760 the world. I think his foreign policy is gibberish. And 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.800 of course, in May of twenty sixteen, Lindsey Graham tweeted, 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.000 which is still out there. If we nominate Trump, we 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.760 will get destroyed and we will deserve it. Now, of 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.320 course that was not true. So one thing Lindsay Graham 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.880 was wrong about was the political viability of Donald Trump, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.680 and he wasn't alone on that. But I want to 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.599 go back to what he said. I believe, I just 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.840 believe his temperament and judgment is not sufficient to be 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.520 commander in chief of the finest fighting force in the world. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.600 I think his foreign policy is gibberish. Well, we'll last 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.680 twenty four hours Lindsey Graham Circuit May twenty sixteen. It's 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:55.120 pretty prescient. Let's move to Marco Rubio March of twenty sixteen. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.560 He's an active candidate against running against Donald Trump, so 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.320 you can chalk this up to that. But here's one 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.279 of his campaign statements, this official campaign statement, Marco Rubia 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.080 on Trump's fitness. We've seen a scary side of Donald Trump. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.200 It isn't just the opposite of what the Republican Party 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.240 stands for, it's the opposite of what America stands for. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:18.320 More Marco Rubio on giving him the nuclear codes. We're 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.440 about to turn over the nuclear codes of the United 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.800 States to an erratic individual. Jeez, is Donald Trump as 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.280 president displayed any signs of being erratic? Oh, you mean, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.080 like forty eight hours ago when he threatened to eliminate 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:39.400 an entire civilization. It was clearly a veiled nuclear threat. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.120 The White House had to put out of it. No, no, no, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.960 he's not talking about news. But they waited until the 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:48.040 question was asked. And then, of course there's this kicker, 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.360 which is on video. You can find it anywhere that 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.520 archives of video, because this was set on CNN in 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.880 March of twenty sixteen. For years to come, there are 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.200 many people on the right in the meetia and voters 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.640 at large that are going to be having to explain 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.800 and justify how they fell into this trap of supporting 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.320 Donald Trump because this is not going to. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.520 End well one way or the other. Again. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:18.720 Marco Rubio, the current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, the 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.000 person that, according to The New York Times, pushed back 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.680 enough on Trump to say, I'm not sure about regime change, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.200 but if you narrow the mission, okay, I can go 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:28.120 out there and sell them. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:30.960 Again. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.199 Marco Rubio. Now think about future Secretary of State to 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.440 Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, who said the following, and I'm 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.880 going to repeat it because it seems incredibly important and 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.240 pression at this moment for years to come. There are 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.680 many people on the right, in the media and voters 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.920 at large that are going to be having to explain 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.760 and justify how they fell into this trap of supporting 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.200 Donald Trump, because this is not going to end well 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:56.120 one way or the other. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:57.280 If you're a. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.560 Real hawk about Iran, or you're a real dove about 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.040 a run, donald Trump has failed you. If you're a 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.120 hawk about the use of American forces or a dove 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:13.480 about American forces, donald Trump has failed you. Donald Trump 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.719 lets down everybody. He always has, and that has been 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.000 his mo. He has done it every single business. Remember, 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.680 this is a man that failed to make money owning 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.840 a casino. How incompetent do you have to be to 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.280 not be able to make money owning a casino, let. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.000 Alone his foreign policy. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.640 Let's go to Ted Cruz, who, while running against him, 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.360 brought up the issue of nuclear of the risk of 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:47.520 nuclear putting the nuclear codes in Donald Trump's hands. I 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.679 don't know anyone who would be comfortable with someone who 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.120 believes this way of having his finger on the button. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.400 I mean, we're liable to wake up one morning and 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:59.040 Donald if he were president, would have nuke Denmark. That's 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.720 not the temperament a leader to keep this country safe. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.120 What's really eerie about that quote about Denmark is this 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.160 was before Donald Trump was musing about Greenland in February 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.560 of twenty sixteen. This was literally Cruz just picking a country, 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.360 like the least threatening country in Europe he could come 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:24.200 up with. And yet it turned out Cruse stumbled into 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.680 something that was true. While we haven't bombed Denmark, it 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.240 is clear Donald Trump has all but said he's pulling 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.920 out of NATO because of Denmark because they won't hand 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:41.400 over Greenland. But if only somebody had warned us, if 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:46.640 only the Republican Party of twenty sixteen still existed. How 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:51.679 about Nicki Haley. She said this during the State of 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.520 the Union response in January of twenty sixteen on behalf 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.560 of the Republican Party. Well, Donald Trump is the front runner. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.680 During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.040 siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.280 The next morning, she was asked if Trump was her 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.640 target with that comment, and she said, mister Trump has 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.800 definitely contributed to what I think is just irresponsible talk, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.400 but I still can't help right, the real kicker is 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.000 Marco Rubim. For years to come, there are many people 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.960 on the right, in the media and voters at large 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.199 that are going to be having to explain and justify 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.880 how they fell into this trap of supporting Donald Trump 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.360 because this is not going to end well one way 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:31.840 or the other. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.480 Well, this is not ending well. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.880 This Iran war was not well thought out, clearly was 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.520 not something was we learned in the New York Times 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.800 over the last forty eight hours from Maggie Haverman and 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.280 Jonathan Swan that there was a lot of hesitation and 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:54.079 then bib Natyah somehow found a sucker in Trump, right, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.880 bib Natya, who tried to convince Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:03.200 Barack Obama, Joe Biden, everybody else knew that Bibie always 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.960 came in and overhyped his intelligence and oversold the capabilities 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:13.440 and oversold what they could accomplish, because those other four 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:18.840 American presidents actually trusted their own intelligence agencies, this one 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.319 only here's what he wants to hear. And he surrounded 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.800 himself with people who decided that in order to keep 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.360 their jobs, they would not disagree with the president. Now 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.360 they're going to claim as we hurt as this time 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.440 story spells out that in their own way, they tried 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:43.120 to steer him, They tried to let him know how 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.840 difficult this would be. But none of them were Gymnatis, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.520 none of them were Mark Milly, none of them were 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:58.600 John Kelly. People who had the guts to say this 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.640 is stupid, don't you know? There was at the end 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:08.320 of the Obama presidency they started trumpeting what they said 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:14.080 was the new Obama doctrine, don't do stupid shit. This 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.800 is the definition of stupid shit. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:19.600 Not having a. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:25.760 Plan going about this sort of damaging the military's reputation, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.520 even though the military itself did their job, and in 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.160 some cases did their job quite well. But if you 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.480 don't have a strategy around your military campaign, then you 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:44.479 might You're were wasting munitions, you are wasting the credibility 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.600 of American military mighty. And now look what we have. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:57.560 So where are we and what does this mean going forward? Well, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.200 it was, as you know, and I've been saying it 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.199 for a while. Trump put himself in this box. He 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.480 desperately wanted out of this war. He literally grabbed a 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:12.120 lifeline to get out of this war. But the problem 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.920 is he just took whatever lifeline the Iranians would offer him. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.320 And so now there, you know, this ten point plan 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.080 that Trump seemed to indicate that he accepted the premise 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.360 of that the Iranians were circulating included ridiculous things like 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.480 getting rid of all sanctions that go back to the 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:38.280 George W. Bush administration, that include full reparations for the 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:44.440 damage that was done. And he indicated it was a 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.160 workable place to begin negotiations. And then all of a sudden, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:53.000 the backlash comes and what happens, Oh no, no, no, no, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.080 he threw that it's a different ten point plan. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:55.360 You know. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.040 The point is, and it goes to something that David Milliban, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.160 the head of the International Rescue Committee. This is my 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.280 exclusive guests for my Newsphere show. This normally comes out 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:08.960 this weekend, but it's actually we're going to push it 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.840 out early for variety of reasons due to scheduling. I 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.760 had to tape it earlier this week, and you know 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.760 he was Foreign Secretary for the UK and you know 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.280 he dealt with the Iranian regime every now and then, 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.640 and he will tell you he goes The number one 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.600 thing they like to do is negotiate. They don't want 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:32.440 to end negotiations. They've used negotiations. It's very similar to Putin, right, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.640 the Putin strategy of these bullshit cease fire talks that 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.800 have supposedly been happening over the last six months or 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.600 what is it a year now since remember Donald Trump 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.320 was going to end this war in Ukraine twenty four 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.760 hours once he was elected president. Well, it's gone real well, right, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.920 the Russian strategy, they're not interested in ending this war. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.240 But the more that they negotiate, the more it puts 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.200 Zelensky on his heels and they get to do what 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.920 they've been doing. Well, the Iranians are this regime is 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.640 the same way, and they will negotiate and negotiate and negotiate. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.880 In fact, it was getting that way with that nuclear 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:19.040 deal and finally they found an endgame. So now the 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.040 question is, you know, first of all, is it a ceasefire? 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:28.520 Is the straight opener closed? The biggest problem is the 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:33.840 Strait is now in the hands of the Iranians, and 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.920 we're going to have to negotiate it. They started this 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.280 off by thinking there was going. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:40.040 To be regime change. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.920 By the way, speaking of regime change, the new I 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.040 had told them Comani's son. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:47.960 It's interesting. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:53.040 Axios reported that it was the new Supreme Leader who said, no, no, no, no, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.440 it's time to let's try to come up with a 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.480 cease fire. Any green Linen Well, The Times of London 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.720 reported that the guy's not cons and has not been 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.440 conscious since given the job, So we don't even know 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.159 who we're negotiating with. Nobody seems to know whether that 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.399 guy is dead or alive. Apparently he's not dead, but 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.639 nobody's quite sure if he's conscious or not. And if 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.760 we're negotiating with the IRGC, well, they have no interest. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.720 They certainly would like a ceasefire because if they would 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:32.520 like to pause and gather, and my god, this ceasefire, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.800 I mean, it is handing the Iranians everything they could 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:42.280 have ever asked for. Right, They've got the President of 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:47.520 the United States making ridiculous over the top threats that 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:53.240 actually create condemnation. The Pope spoke out, and of course 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.560 the Pope speaking out has then got parts of Maga 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.320 world so angry that they're like trying to ret in 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:06.840 the Vatican. So this president can't handle criticism to the 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.960 point that he's going to declare war on the Vatican. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:13.760 And you know, I know. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.159 There's a source of Maga that hated Pope Francis and 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.640 source of the right wing part of the Catholic Church. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.120 It is, it is, it is. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.040 Some strange Brew And then you have the whole there's 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:32.080 sort of an anti Catholic contingent in this Maga world. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.520 Pete Haigseth this sort of part of that crowd, right, 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.000 that's why they apparently, you know, wouldn't even allow a 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.639 Catholic Mass at the Pentagon Chapel on Good Friday. So 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.679 there's always been there's a weird and I have to say, politically, 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.720 that's incredibly risky, right, if you wanted to just look 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.360 at swing states by religion, there's a lot of Catholics 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:59.080 in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, Iowa too. By the way, 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.919 if you in Ohio, if we in certainly this cycle, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.440 they're going to be competitive states. Whether they're swing states again, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.320 we'll find out in twenty eight. But they're certainly going 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.920 to be competitive in twenty six, so I'm not sure 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.720 pecking a fight with the Pope, the first American pope, 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.080 who frankly is the most interesting and likable pope we've 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.840 had ever as far as Americans are concerned. 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Understandable, it's this you know he did. 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.400 This is going to be a quagmire. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:12.680 Now. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.880 The person who understood that getting involved in these Middle 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.480 East wars was a dumb idea supposedly was Donald Trump, 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.640 But perhaps he can't even remember his own campaign pledges 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:28.000 from twenty twenty four, let alone twenty twenty and twenty sixteen. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:36.040 So now what well, I think the best we can 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.760 hope for is some sort of negotiated settlement on the straight. 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.680 My guess is there might be some fees that are 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.920 going to be connected to rebuilding some parts of Iran. 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:53.520 Maybe that's how this is done. The world economy, I 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:57.680 mean that, you know, Donald Trump cares more about how 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:02.160 markets and the stock markets behaving, and knowing him, he's 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.800 sitting there bragging to his own people, Look, look what 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.480 I did. I made all this money back by getting 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.080 this by convincing the markets there's a cease fire and 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.280 that the Strait is open. By the way, we still 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:17.680 don't know if the Strait is open, but a whole 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.480 bunch of people got to make money on Thursday on Wednesday, 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.439 so I'm sure he's feeling pretty good. The point is 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:29.080 he does care about that part, and he does care. 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.679 If he is the trigger for a recession, it may 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.200 be too late, right, the damage that has been done 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:40.640 to a variety of facilities in the region. It's not 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:42.960 like all of a sudden everybody just turns up. No, 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.680 there's going to have to be repairs. There's gonna it's 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:51.000 going to take months for the energy markets to sort 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:55.440 of become whole again. And that's assuming this stays as is. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.679 But what's funny is the Israelis are complaining that the 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.800 United States got to deal without consulting them. Well, it 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.280 does look like the Israelis are making their own decisions 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.480 on Lebanon without really consulting. 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:13.600 The United States, and that. 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.440 It's clear the Iranians are hoping that the United States 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.760 will pressure the Israelis to back off a Lebanon and 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.879 more importantly, has blah because they're trying to keep their 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:28.119 proxies in place. The point is is it goes back 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:34.800 to the initial criticism. Okay, the worst thing is to 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:38.200 be an equivocator. If you're going to be the commander 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:41.760 in chief, are you here? Are you here? When you're 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.640 an unreliable ally? You're not an ally. Unreliable allies are 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:51.600