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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's now on Peter's radar, Like,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another district the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hans is coming to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room build with heroes, Mark Sessler, Erica Tempols. Greg

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Speaker 1: was the thalt. What's up people, We're we're animal lovers?

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Speaker 1: What is that? What is that fit? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Micky's the only one with the with an actual pet,

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Speaker 1: but maybe that's maybe that's kind to animals because I

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Speaker 1: think it's when we're dark gunning. We've we've been we've

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Speaker 1: been virtually shooting tigers with tranquilizer darts. So I guess

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Speaker 1: if you especially yeah, especially with Ricky who really as

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Speaker 1: um fired way more trunks into the furry creatures that necessary.

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Speaker 1: I get why maybe somebody would be hot on our tail. Now, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's dangerous. The tranquilizers in the Bengals layer. Another one

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Speaker 1: got loose on Sunday hit Randy Bullock like right before

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Speaker 1: he was going to kick Yeah, Randy, that's thank you

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Speaker 1: for bringing that up, Greg, because Randy Bullock knows this

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Speaker 1: already because we send him the facts. Uh what do

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Speaker 1: they call those? What do they call in the old

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Speaker 1: days when you get sent something like a telegram, bullock

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Speaker 1: out a telegram that he was effective Sunday afternoon, banned

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Speaker 1: from the Kicker Club for life. Because it's one thing

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Speaker 1: to miss a kick, but to phantom grab at your calf,

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Speaker 1: uh and then find out the next day that you

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Speaker 1: know he's fine. That is the one thing you can't

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Speaker 1: an injury. You just gotta wear it. And it's we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into It was kind of a woeful week

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Speaker 1: there about Kai Warbath. I needed to get on a

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Speaker 1: team and then kick a big field goal at the

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Speaker 1: end of game. If Kai does not find his way

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Speaker 1: onto a roster this year after what we saw in

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Speaker 1: Week one, it's just knock gonna happen. Stephen Gaskowski, My goodness,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that. Yeah, we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: Monday night football. We're gonna preview Thursday night the Browns

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Speaker 1: and Bengals buckle up, Sizzler and also coming off the

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Speaker 1: action in week one, we're gonna play a game called

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Speaker 1: panic or Chill Chill bra based on we've won subplots. Mark,

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Speaker 1: what were you gonna say? No? Nothing? At this point,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a meatia show. Let's proceed alright, Marks,

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Speaker 1: all business with that haircut here? Either that or easy now.

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Speaker 1: I tried to sneak in a haircut at you know,

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Speaker 1: right before the show started, and it was not my

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Speaker 1: greatest moment of time management. Of all times. That haircut

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Speaker 1: some kind. Because most people don't realize that Mark has

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Speaker 1: got a little different look going on. I think he

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Speaker 1: told his barber that he's fond of uh to give

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Speaker 1: You know, you're asking for the fade, to do it

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Speaker 1: like the kids do. And good for you, bro. You

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Speaker 1: I'm very loyal to the wonderful person that cuts my hair,

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Speaker 1: That's the only reason I had a bad time, my

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Speaker 1: In the early game, up first Steelers, Giants from the

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Speaker 1: say this, I don't like these defensive play callers um

429
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Speaker 1: being the head coach, because I think you really need

430
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Speaker 1: to have your p's and q's and know what's going

431
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Speaker 1: on in terms of game management situation. And Fonio was

432
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Speaker 1: terrible at it last year too, Like these coaches. They

433
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Speaker 1: they they're all about, Oh, we worked so hard, we

434
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Speaker 1: were a hundred hours. We prepare for every scenario. It's like, yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: but you're like worse at at that scenario, which is

436
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Speaker 1: so important than a guy playing Madden. And I know

437
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Speaker 1: it's a there's more pressure and it's a lot, but

438
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Speaker 1: that's why you should be preparing that. Like, are you

439
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Speaker 1: spending two hours on that during the week. I don't

440
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Speaker 1: think so. Not only did he blow that situation, but

441
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Speaker 1: the thing I thought, it's crazy no one really paid

442
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Speaker 1: any attention to. They used forty seconds on the drive

443
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Speaker 1: before that they got the ball, the game, that team

444
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: was over. When they got the ball back over midfield,

445
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: Judy drops a pass that would have ended the game.

446
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Speaker 1: And I'm with you, Judy looks like an unbelievable time.

447
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be jumped off the screen. He's he's unreal.

448
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: He reminds me of I don't know, Antonio Brown, I

449
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: guess would be the closest thing to it. And then

450
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: they go on third to night, they go they go

451
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Speaker 1: hero ball and they decide to go for a touchdown

452
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Speaker 1: throw over the top, and you know, it was a

453
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Speaker 1: pretty good call. Block Adom wide open and they would

454
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Speaker 1: have been dancing in the Denver streets that they went

455
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Speaker 1: for a forty yard touchdown with three minutes to go.

456
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Speaker 1: But Lock throws it into the first you know, into

457
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Speaker 1: the first part of the space. It wasn't even close.

458
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Speaker 1: He was fine, he does. I think he's I'm still

459
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Speaker 1: in the same kind of holding pattern with him, because, yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: you're right if he forget about even winning the game

461
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Speaker 1: with that deep pass which he missed, You're right, though

462
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Speaker 1: Judy doesn't have that second drop. We're probably talking about

463
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Speaker 1: a totally different situation here. But that's football. But I

464
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Speaker 1: do I did like what I saw from him, and

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Speaker 1: I think I agree with you that if you get

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton back and Judy continues to develop, because he

467
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Speaker 1: really did jump off the screen, like the way he

468
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Speaker 1: came out of those breaks and just it reminded me

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Speaker 1: actually of like a young Odell Beckham, where when he

470
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Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands, was like, oh, watch out,

471
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Speaker 1: because this guy is just doing things that other guys

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Speaker 1: in the field can't see it. I mean, like, like

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, like a twelve year old could

474
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Speaker 1: look at that and say, what is happening with this player?

475
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Speaker 1: Versus other wide receivers. I mean he's that special to

476
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Speaker 1: the eyes. I wrote about Locking Daniel Jones though, and

477
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Speaker 1: I I here's the thing where I like them sorts.

478
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Speaker 1: They're fun to watch. I did a feature on them

479
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Speaker 1: because it's to me like they're making two teams that

480
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: were pretty tough to watch. His quarterbacks a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: So I think lock if it'll be a roller coaster ride,

482
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Speaker 1: but he's gonna give you some stuff. And Mike Rabel

483
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Speaker 1: said Tuesday, the Titans have a quote lot of faith

484
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Speaker 1: in Stephen Gaskowski after the kickers rough debut. I I

485
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Speaker 1: meant that I tweeted this that in that exact moment,

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Speaker 1: and don't get on me with oh, but what about

487
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Speaker 1: the suffering in in this part of the world, Calm down.

488
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Speaker 1: In that exact moment, there was no one I would

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Speaker 1: I would rather be anyone else in the world than

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Speaker 1: Guskowski when he saw every camera on the sideline trained

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Speaker 1: on him, none of his teammates talking to him, knowing

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Speaker 1: that he was the story of the night. It was

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Speaker 1: week one prime time, and then you you can't go

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Speaker 1: in a hole and hide. And then the when they

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Speaker 1: showed him on the bench taking his cleats off like

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Speaker 1: it did. It was bad enough that across my mind,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's just walking out like it was.

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Speaker 1: It was at that level that the human uh feeling. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's it for Monday night football discussion. Let

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Speaker 1: us let's let's have some fun. Let's do this, all right.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of good things happened in week one,

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for teams to be excited. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then there's the flip side of the teams that things

504
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Speaker 1: didn't work out how they had hoped in week one.

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Speaker 1: And what we're you gonna try to do here, in

506
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Speaker 1: a segment we call panic or chill bro is figure

507
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Speaker 1: out which one of the negative outcomes of week one

508
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Speaker 1: is a harbinger of doom and which one should be

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Speaker 1: more of Like, Okay, let's let things breathe a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Most likely it won't be as bad as it looks.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go around the horn here. Um, I'll get

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Speaker 1: it going, and I will present it to both you boys,

513
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Speaker 1: and then I'll chime in with my thoughts as well.

514
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Speaker 1: But I'll start right here because it was a conversation

515
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Speaker 1: on the UM podcast on Sunday night, Phil Rivers and

516
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Speaker 1: the interceptions that killed the Colts against the Jaguars and

517
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Speaker 1: the big upset of the week. I watched the game

518
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Speaker 1: uh yesterday as part of my Power Rankings duties, and

519
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Speaker 1: it did it was exactly what I what I kind

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Speaker 1: of imagine it was based on the way it was

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Speaker 1: being described. It was Rivers try and force things and

522
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Speaker 1: make things happen. And it kind of stood out in

523
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Speaker 1: contrast with the other quarterback Gardner me and Show, who

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Speaker 1: took what the defense gave him and just executed well. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so Rivers even stood out more. Is this to you,

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Speaker 1: guys a sign that the Colts are in serious trouble

527
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Speaker 1: because Rivers is gonna just be this flawed guy that

528
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: cost them multiple games this year? Mark to go first,

529
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Speaker 1: because I feel like my answer is to uh to obvious.

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Speaker 1: You know where I'm going with. Um, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I think you kind of know what you're getting in

532
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and the Good with the Bad, and you

533
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Speaker 1: know this is not the greatest version of Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine, Um, the Colts excel itself scouting

535
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Speaker 1: uh and they know that, Um, you're gonna get I

536
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Speaker 1: like that you said that, Minshew kind of gave what

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Speaker 1: the defense. Um took what the defense gave him. Where

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Speaker 1: I think Philip Rivers is just gonna He's gonna give

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Speaker 1: things to the offense and the defense. That's just who

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers sort of is. I'm not in the panic

541
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Speaker 1: mode because I'm kind of used to this, this version

542
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Speaker 1: of Philip Rivers, and I think it's going to help

543
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Speaker 1: them to unleash Jonathan Taylor of Jonathan Taylor's what we

544
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Speaker 1: think they are. Their offense has a lot of young pieces.

545
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Speaker 1: Um t Y Hilton can still play. I think he

546
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Speaker 1: he looked good. So I'm not they have a great

547
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Speaker 1: offensive line. I just I want to see this thing

548
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of carry out for a month. Um. But I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this, I'm not like, hey, no matter what happens,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to panic all year. I think this

551
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Speaker 1: is a this is a one year um, a one

552
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Speaker 1: year scenario for Philip Rivers, and and then I think

553
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Speaker 1: they move on after this and barring something really special,

554
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: I just I just do. And so you know, to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm chilling because the other options you put in Jacoby

556
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Brisett like, no, no, you could just panic and not

557
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: expected to go well and I'm not panicking here, all right,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, you know where I'm going. I'm chilling. I'm hey,

559
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Speaker 1: I mean, chill is probably the wrong word, because I'm

560
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Speaker 1: just enjoying. I'm I'm ready for the roller coaster ride.

561
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I am a little concerned that those

562
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Speaker 1: interceptions were totally on Rivers and I went back to

563
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Speaker 1: watch it too, kind of hoping that there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some you know, secondary reasons for him, but especially the

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Speaker 1: way that they happened. When they happened, they turned the

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Speaker 1: momentum um of the game, and otherwise they would have

567
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Speaker 1: won it. I am chilling though, because man, the offense

568
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: looks so good. Otherwise. Yeah, the matchup was good and

569
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: he was protected well. I think he's gonna be protected

570
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Speaker 1: well each week. And West has gotten on Rivers his

571
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Speaker 1: arm strength and to me, he's at his best throwing

572
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Speaker 1: intermediate and deep down the field at least he has,

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Speaker 1: you know, throughout his career. And he had a twenty

574
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Speaker 1: seven thirty yard rope to the opposite hash Mark early

575
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Speaker 1: in that game on a dime to t Y Hilton

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Speaker 1: that made me not worried about his arm strength at all.

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Speaker 1: He had another I mean that is the hardest throw

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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks to make. I'm not saying he's Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: but he looked in sync. He showed anticipation, the arm

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Speaker 1: looked good. I think he you look. You could tell

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Speaker 1: he's been in this offense before, and I think it's

582
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a very dangerous offense. He can't keep doing that.

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Speaker 1: So if you're if we're having this conversation um in October,

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Speaker 1: that that I'll start that I'll be panicking, But I am.

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Speaker 1: I am giving him a one week like, Okay, he's

586
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna have these games. But throwing fifteen interceptions and having

587
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: this kind of season, that's okay for me throwing three,

588
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a big difference, and and it was. He

589
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: was a big part of the reason they lost. It

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Speaker 1: was a killer. I'm gonna hold my panic for another

591
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Speaker 1: week or so, but it certainly is a bit foreboding.

592
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Speaker 1: So I'm chilled, But I'm also like, I'm not. I

593
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: just don't let the public drink. And that's the way

594
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: cults feels, cults fans probably feel right now, Greg, you're up,

595
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go with the Saints offense. And

596
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and and This has been something West has

597
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Speaker 1: talked about, certainly when it comes to Drew Brees arm strength.

598
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Speaker 1: But you know, since we last uh you know, talked

599
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Speaker 1: with our listeners, Michael Thomas, it's been revealed has a

600
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Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. He's supposedly gonna play through it, try to.

601
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like a good idea. Let's let's get

602
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: this guy healthy. Um. But I'm wondering if you guys

603
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: are panicking or chilling about a Saint's offense, especially the

604
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: passing attack where everything seems pretty close to the line

605
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the defense at least on Sunday knew it.

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Damn panic or chill chill. I'm a hard chill on

607
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Speaker 1: this one. And it's not because I don't uh see,

608
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: that's how I feel inside. It's not because I don't

609
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Speaker 1: respect the punditry of someone like a Chris Wessling, who

610
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Speaker 1: I think is making sense when he says that Drew

611
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Brees arm strength is is becoming an increasingly big issue.

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Speaker 1: And it does make me think when Sean Payton is

613
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Speaker 1: so going out of his way after the game to

614
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Speaker 1: put the blame on him and say it was the

615
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: worst game plan I've ever had. It makes me think

616
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: that maybe he's covering for his boy because he knows

617
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: that's important, especially this time of year. That said, um

618
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Speaker 1: breathe to me is ill guy in an offense that

619
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Speaker 1: he's super comfortable with that's gonna be in in positive

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Speaker 1: game situations because of the defense. And if anybody is

621
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Speaker 1: gonna say they're shocked if he throws three or four touchdowns,

622
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: uh in his next game, you're lying because it's it's

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Speaker 1: too simple to be like, oh, yeah, they had two

624
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Speaker 1: seventy total yards. Now it's locked in. He's Peyton Manning

625
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: in that final Broncos year. He stinks. I don't think

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00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: he's there yet. And maybe he is, But right now

627
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say i'd be more I'd be it would

628
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: be more likely to me that he has a big

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Speaker 1: game in Week two and all these narratives go out

630
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Speaker 1: the door for the time being. Yeah, I mean, I'm

631
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: chilling because if I'm panicking over this, I'm probably panicking about, um,

632
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: how to pour myself a cup of water in the kitchen.

633
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: I mean, it's look like this is the Saints, this

634
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: is I really think that Sean payton Um is the

635
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: best schemer offensively in the league, and I wouldn't be surprised.

636
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you really get into a pinch, you

637
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: can come in and use packages with Jamis Winston, you

638
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: can use their use. No, I'm just saying if you

639
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: get into a real pinch down the stretch. I'm not

640
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: panicking over Drew Brees though, because I think this isn't

641
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: that different of a version of Drew Brees than we

642
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: had a year ago. I just I don't And if

643
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: you haven't healthy Alvin Kamara, he'll be used as well

644
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: as he would in any offense in the league. So

645
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, I do I think that they're gonna be

646
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: the best offense. Um, you know, just book it right now. No.

647
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: But I but I'm not panicking. There's a panic situation.

648
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: I can look at twelve other offenses to panic around.

649
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Are you guys worried about anything? I mean, I'm gonna

650
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: go ahead and panic because there's been too much chilling. Ah,

651
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: that's what I say. Let's panics in the street. I mean,

652
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: here's the thing with the Sames offense. I'm panicking to

653
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: the point is of like, is the old Saints offense

654
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna be back? And do I believe that it's gonna

655
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: stay that way. They've had these stretches over the last

656
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: two years, especially last year, where they didn't look great,

657
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: and then at the end of last year man they

658
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: were scoring a ton of points and it was going great.

659
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: But I think the way the Rosters constructed their interior

660
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: line really struggled against Tampa. Maybe that was a matchup thing,

661
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: but if you if you can't protect Drew Brees up

662
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: the middle, then he starts looking ordinary and there's there's

663
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of deep speed here. Emmanuel Sanders played

664
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: less in that game than trade Juan Smith. I think

665
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: they can win games because they've got such a good

666
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: defense and special team. But in terms of like high

667
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: flying old Saints, let's just have some good old fun

668
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Week one over reaction panic, I don't believe it. I

669
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: think you're just trying to add I have real concerns

670
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: that they're not gonna be like a top five type

671
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: of offense or even you know, necessarily top ten. I do,

672
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: I do. Uh. I am maybe overreacting, but I really

673
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: do believe that. Okay, so I guess it all kind

674
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: of depends on perspective. If the days of the top

675
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: five Drew Brees offense are over. I could buy that

676
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: top ten even okay, I being the worst Saints offense

677
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: under Drew Brees and Shot pay. But you know what,

678
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be time to panic. It's if they end

679
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: up being in the twenties or something and all of

680
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, offense is an actual liability. And I feel

681
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: like we're still gonna be far off from that. But

682
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: we'll find out that Michael Thomas injury is a problem

683
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: because sprain is something I could linger and it could

684
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: mess up a whole season. All right, Mark, You're up next. Alright,

685
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: San Francisco. We know they have their issues, but I

686
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: want to focus on Jimmy G. Did you go back

687
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: and look at that game. He's lucky that he didn't

688
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: have an interception on a on a basically it was

689
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: wiped out by penalty. Was a terrible pick while he

690
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: was on the move. Um. Not a great look for

691
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. He had the fourth and fourth and five

692
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: meltdown at the end of the game where they had

693
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: a chance to win and he just threw a terrible

694
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: pass and to the point where you know, the the

695
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: play by play guy and the color guy basically said,

696
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: that's just on Jimmy G. And you know, I could

697
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: throw in other examples, and we've seen little things from

698
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy G here and there, and that five games sample

699
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: that started his career in San Francisco feels about twenty

700
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: five years ago. Are we panicking or are we chilling

701
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: on Jimmy G as the the guy in Sam Francisco.

702
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm ready to panic on this one. This might be

703
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: that this um I was definitely taken aback by his

704
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: performance on Sunday. And I know that the wide receiver

705
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: situation is bad there right now, so you gotta factor

706
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: that in. I think the wide receiver's accounted for forty

707
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: one yards total against the Cardinals, and the Cardinals are

708
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: not anyone's definition of a you know, top secondary in

709
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the league. But there are three the three throws that

710
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with me. One is the one that

711
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: injured George Kittle, which was a throw into the flat

712
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: that was high that his star tight end had to

713
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: go up to get and he came down and now

714
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: he's got to spring knee and we'll see how he

715
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: recovers from that. Too. Was the miss to Kendrick Bourne

716
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: that would have given the Niners a win. He undershot

717
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: the throw and allowed the defense under to get back

718
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: into the play. Patrick Peterson knocked the ball away that

719
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: should have been a gimmey touchdown. And three the fourth

720
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: and four with the game on the line, where you

721
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: threw it late and behind his receiver, And maybe it's

722
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: just a bad game, but it does feel like he's

723
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: just a hot and cold guy. And we talked about

724
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: it on this pot a lot, that he has a

725
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: genius offensive coordinator on his side. Maybe I'm expecting a

726
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: little bit more progress, even with a a offense that

727
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: is compromised by injury. So I don't think it's too

728
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: soon to panic that you might just have like a

729
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: guy at quarterback and not the guy. Yeah, I'm gonna

730
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: sprinkle like a mild amount of panic. I've just been

731
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: at this this slow, steady panic when it comes to

732
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy g for a while. And Week one, you know,

733
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: kind of confirmed my priors, which is that he's just

734
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: always like a step late, a beat late, you know,

735
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: in the it's a timing offense. And you can hear

736
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: it in Kyle Shane Ann's voice, and that's that's partly

737
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: why I've got the mild bit of panic because it

738
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: feels like Kyle Shanahan has a mild bit of panic.

739
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: And that's that's I don't I don't know if it's

740
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, you know, you hear whispers um, but

741
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: I buy into them that there's just like a little

742
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: bit of a disconnect them. I do you know what, Greg,

743
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and that's why that's why I

744
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: kind of brought it up. The panic for me comes

745
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: from the fact that I think that the Shanahan's um

746
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: have been good head coaches because they are a tad

747
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: cutthroat and you've got to make the right decision. And

748
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: this is Kyle Shanahan's Super Bowl window in San Francisco.

749
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can make a change right now,

750
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: but I do agree with the sprinkling of panic that

751
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: this is not the guy we thought we had when

752
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: we signed him after a small sample size to a

753
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: massive extension and now go ahead, Sorry, no, I just

754
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: I think that we can look at the most recent game.

755
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: I pointed a few things out, You point a few

756
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: things out. Gregg points a few things out. It seems

757
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: to happen from game to game, and then he'll have

758
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: a stretch where he is awesome and it's like it

759
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: it kind of lays all the fears and everybody comes

760
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: down and then a game like this pops up again.

761
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: So Kenny iron that consistency inconsistency out of his game, Ricky,

762
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: why don't you give us one? I was gonna say,

763
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: maybe Belichick can see the future? Um okay, so um,

764
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: how do you guys feel about DeShawn Watson Without DeAndre Hopkins?

765
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Dating back to last season, Watson now has four consecutive

766
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: games with a sub hundred passer rating, the longest such

767
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: streak of his career. Panic or chill, I couldn't be

768
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: chilling anymore. I mean qubcubulating garbage that hundreds pretty high,

769
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: So I didn't even know what that means. Billy, Billy O'Brien.

770
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: If he does one thing well, he'll scheme up a

771
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: little more offense in a passing game than you think before.

772
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Deshohn Watson post DeShawn Watson, I'm worried about him this

773
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: week against that Ravens front, and I'm worried about Texans

774
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: O line. But Watson will find a way. No Panic,

775
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm chilling because I just think to Shaun Watson, um

776
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: is going to probably be the guy that can lift

777
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: an offense no matter what's around him. But I would

778
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: say for all the people that kind of rode off

779
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins in Arizona thinking he's just gonna be like

780
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: a guy that puts up a five forty four row

781
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: line weekend, I think people were called on him on

782
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Fantasy not saying that he's not a good player, but

783
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: he was gonna be de emphasized in a four woman

784
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: silva just say the name. You know, Sylva's not alone.

785
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think he was like his value went

786
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: down and the logic was there, but then you watched

787
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: the game DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Hopkins. So ultimately what the

788
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: Texans did was they removed a complete, raging star wide

789
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: receiver from their offense. So I'd be more panicked about

790
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: some of the decision making. And then with there's the

791
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: back lash where it's like, now let's praise Bill O'Brien

792
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: and he got went and got David Johnson. Well thanks,

793
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: I know which player I'd rather have right now. And

794
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: so I don't like that around Deshaun Watson at all.

795
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: But like David Johnson looked way better than he did

796
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: last year. He was not deliberate this trade. Again, no

797
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: we don't, but but we were on Thursday night and

798
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: everyone else was. It's liked hops Well. I guess that's

799
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: the point of trying to make like, can we all

800
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: as a people agree? And I think we have terrible trade.

801
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: But now the season started and this man's on this

802
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: team and this man's on that team. And I thought

803
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: David Johnson did look really good h and I think

804
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Will Fuller so many stays healthy, is going to end

805
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: up with numbers that could even rival what Hoppins did

806
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: last year Houston. So I'm gonna say, Chill, I think

807
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: there are a worse team, and that doesn't take a

808
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: brilliant analyst to point that out. But I still think

809
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, he's so special that I think the

810
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: offense is going to figure it out. It's such a

811
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: it's borderline unfair. When you send these teams on the

812
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: road to the defending champions in their season opener on

813
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: a third day night, it feels like nine times out

814
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: of ten they don't have any chance. And that's how

815
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: it fell for Houston. I can't wait to see them

816
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: in a more normalized and Baltimore this week. What did

817
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: O'Brien do to get the schedule makers match reason Bill

818
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: has done a lot. I'm worried about the Texans just

819
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: because of their schedule and why Jimmy g even though

820
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't believe in him, It's like their schedule is

821
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: is very uh forgiving the next couple of weeks, just

822
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out and MetLife Stadium and playing the

823
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins soon. You know, it's pretty it's pretty easy, pretty nice,

824
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: pretty nice. All right, let's go around the horn one

825
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: more time quickly. I hope you guys had a chance

826
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: to watch this game. I imagine you did. The Packers

827
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: Vikings week one. We all know what Aaron Rodgers did

828
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: and what a fun thing that was to watch him

829
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: turn into Aaron Rodgers again. But I want to talk

830
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: about the Vikings apocalypse. I'm not gonna get two worked

831
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: up about the offensive side of the ball because it

832
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: was a weird game where the defense was couldn't get

833
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: off the field and then by the time Kirk Cousins

834
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: and this Stefan Digs free offense went to work the

835
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: game script that kind of flipped it. Just as a

836
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: little wonky, but the defense wasn't competitive in this game.

837
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: And maybe it gets better with the Neil Hunter when

838
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: he comes back, but for one week at least, this

839
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: was non competitive, both in the trenches and in the secondary.

840
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Greg is a time to panic or chill about the

841
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Vikings as a legit contender, But well, the way you

842
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: phrase that is tricky. I'm gonna chill because of Mike

843
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Zimmer's track record coaching up defense for decades, really and

844
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: especially the secondary, I think has enough talent. The linebackers

845
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: are good. The defensive line is a big time concern

846
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: because even when Hunter gets back, it was it was

847
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: their interior that was just blown off the ball and

848
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: are a bunch of you know, rotation guys in the

849
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: past or new players and don't look that talented. And

850
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: yeah you got Angaqui and Hunter, but like that does

851
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: not make you know, an entire defensive line. So that

852
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: that's a problem. But I think they'll be able to

853
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: scheme their way into it and coach coach their way

854
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: up as the season goes along. Well, I'm panicking. I'm

855
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: a Vikings fan. I'm panicking panicking about the Vikings. Yeah,

856
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: because I think the ceiling that team of eight and

857
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: all these years later. No, No, I'm just looking at

858
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: the team I watched on Sunday and the team that

859
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: I watched, um there the floor version of the team

860
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: that I watched last year, and and to be the

861
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: Vikings teams that really had a chance. I mean a

862
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: lot of it just started with it started with your defense.

863
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: And there's too much happening there right now. And yeah,

864
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: you played a great opponent, but not a lot of

865
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: people expected Aaron Rodgers to do that in Week one.

866
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: That's why it's a raging story that Aaron Rodgers came

867
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: out and looked like he had been shotgunned out of

868
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: like a two thousand and twelve cannon. So I mean,

869
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: if I'm Minnesota, I'm freaking because you're probably like a

870
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: nine and seven team and it's the same old story,

871
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: or you're eight and eight, or you're you're one and done,

872
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: and I mean I think finally, if you're if you're

873
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, you have to say the ceiling needs to

874
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: be higher, and there's re HEAs into panic if the

875
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: organization is going to float along being one of the

876
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: you know, fourth or fifth or six or seventh best

877
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: teams in their conference. I'm I'm on the opposite side

878
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: of the spectrum on this. I'm in a total chill scenario.

879
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: Bad game, they got caught with their pants down in

880
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: week one and Aaron Rodgers was something to prove. Was

881
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: I think a really bad combination. But the coaching is good,

882
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: the roster is good, and yes, I agree with you

883
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Mark that this team seems to have a couple of

884
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: stinkers in them every year. They got one out of

885
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: the way in week one. I think this is a

886
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: double digit win team and will be coming out of

887
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Week two after they perform well being like okay, things

888
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: are back on track. Maybe that's what I think. All right,

889
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: who's up? I can go. I'll throw the Chargers offense

890
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: out there. Whether we're panicking or chilling about a Charger's offense,

891
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: who uh you know, despite Joe Burrow having his struggles

892
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: with with trailing until very late in the game against

893
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: the Angles defense without a lot of talent, Sessleric Well,

894
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: I here's the thing. I don't think I'm panicking. I

895
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: think the Chargers um shame on them if they thought

896
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: they were gonna get a whole lot more out of

897
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: this whole thing. I watched that game, um, you know,

898
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: partly to check out the Bengals for TNF. Tyrod Taylor

899
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: great guy, fun guy on hard knocks. We all agree,

900
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: a campaign killer. You're gonna have to make a switch

901
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: at some point, can everyone at you know? The one

902
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: thing that the one thing that bugs me a little

903
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: bit is that the coaching staff talks about all these

904
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: things that Tyrod Taylor can bring to the offense. What

905
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I see is what he takes away from an offense.

906
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I just I think he's a mobile guy. That's great,

907
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: but that's not that big of a differentiator in terms

908
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: of what Tyrod Taylor is doing with that These days,

909
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: they're a field goal offense with him. Austin Ekeler has

910
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: been essentially like de emphasized, they don't do they don't

911
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: check down to him in the passing game that Anthony

912
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: lynn basically said, We're not going to do that with

913
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynnett with are as much this year, that's your

914
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: best player. Mike Williams makes a few amazing grabs in

915
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: that game, but if he doesn't like the offense is

916
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: a stink bomb. And then you have a rookie quarterback

917
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: among them all that I think I want to see it,

918
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: but it just does not seem completely ready for prime time.

919
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Might be shoved into the fire too soon. It's not

920
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: a great situation. You were five and eleven last year.

921
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to be doing in the NFL?

922
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Why was Tyrod Taylor's advertised to us as a starter?

923
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: I never really bought it to begin with. I'm gonna chill,

924
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: but only because I didn't come into the season thinking

925
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna be very good. And I think

926
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: it's an offense that on most games you're gonna be

927
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: lucky if they give you twenty three points, you know that.

928
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: I feel like they're ceiling most weeks. Is gonna be

929
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: hoping to win a lot of like thirteen games, and

930
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: this was a step below that. And it's in week one,

931
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, on the road. So I think they'll be

932
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: better than they were in Week one. I think Tyrod

933
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Taylor will be better. I think Austin Ekeler will get

934
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: more involved than they'll figure out ways to do it

935
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: because I like Anthony Lynn, but this is who the

936
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: Chargers are until and if Justin Herbert can play the guitar. Mhmm,

937
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm panicking a little about the approach because there was

938
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: it was the third highest percentage of runs Anthony Lennis had.

939
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: This is what he wants to do. He's told you

940
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: they had three tight ends on the field half the time.

941
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: He just wants to run out. They were losing in

942
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: the game and they and they had the highest Like

943
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: he is living out of three. He's so happy to

944
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: be done with Philip Rivers so he can play the

945
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: style of football he wants. And I don't know if

946
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: a love works. I think I mentioned this uh before

947
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: the season started, but it was so odd to me

948
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: that Philip rivers name never came up once in five

949
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: episodes of Hard Knocks, that that was kind of an

950
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: underrated subplot, that there was bad blood behind the scenes

951
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: and that was a bit of a messy divorce. Uh.

952
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: And it played out because when you have a legendary

953
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in your team's history that goes away after eighteen

954
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: years or whatever it was, and then it's not even

955
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: something that people bring up his name out of respect. No,

956
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: there's something cooking behind the scenes there and maybe maybe

957
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: at the lynch shouldn't have been so excited. Can I

958
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: dan one thing that you said, because this is sort

959
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: of where my problem is because I I you, guys,

960
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: we I love Anthony Lynn. Um. I felt so differently

961
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: about him after watching Hard Knocks. I liked the whole team.

962
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: I like Tyrod Taylor. But you go into a season

963
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: saying we want to win games nineteen to sixteen, that's

964
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: who we want to be. It's I mean, it just

965
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: it feels to me like it's it's not all. It's

966
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: not Tyrod Taylor's fault necessarily legs. Maybe those legs aren't.

967
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: He used to be maybe the second best running quarterback

968
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. He was an electric runner and

969
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: he just hat didn't really use it anymore. You haven't

970
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: seen it in a few years. But he's only about

971
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: I think he's thirty one maybe, and he hasn't sustained

972
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: any major injuries in recent years. I would imagine the

973
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: athleticism is still there. Uh, does anybody have one more?

974
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: Before we? I had have a quick one for you.

975
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean because this one, I kind of go both

976
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: ways because I don't know how much wiggle room you

977
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: have to um give game this away. The Cowboys offensive line, Um,

978
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: it's it's banged up. I don't think Tyron Smith. People

979
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: to say, you know, you watch a primetime it's Tyron Smith. Well, yeah,

980
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: but it's not the same Tyron Smith. Okay, Joe Looney,

981
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: these guys were fine on Sunday Night, but if you

982
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: go look at the scores, pff and sort of the

983
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: overall feel you're right side. Connor Williams and Terrence Steele

984
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: were hot messes. Uh. You don't have la all Collins

985
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: back for a while. You've lost Blake jar Win a

986
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: tight end um, so you're losing creativity in terms of

987
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: how you can block. And when we think of offensive lines,

988
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you know, if you're just sort of

989
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: more watching it from year to year, you get caught

990
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: in what a team has been characteristically like, this is

991
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: not the Cowboys offensive line of old, and I think

992
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: it affects Dak Prescott, panic or chill. I would say

993
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: that panic in the sense that there was a time

994
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: where it doesn't matter who they were playing, they're going

995
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: to handle their business on that front. But that might

996
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: be over now. And when you get a an Aaron

997
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Donald led defensive line and he was like bullying Zack Martin. Uh,

998
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: even on Sunday Night, they might have gotten to the

999
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: point where they're vulnerable against truly great lines, would still

1000
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: will be able to hold their own against everyone else.

1001
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: So overall a chill, but with an acknowledgement that it's

1002
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: not the same team anymore. I'm gonna chill just because

1003
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: I think the offensive person Noel, can mostly make up for.

1004
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: There are other points of concern for me on this team,

1005
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna have some faith in Dac

1006
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: and those receivers and Zeke to just make up for

1007
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: You're right, the line is not going to be the

1008
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: same now. My expectations are not there. But if as

1009
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: long as the line can be average, I think that

1010
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: the other players can lift them up. Okay, last quick

1011
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: one before we get to Thursday night preview. Uh panic

1012
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: or chill? Chris Berman's grip on the cultural zeitgeist Gartner,

1013
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: you know across my what what? Who? Like? What? We were?

1014
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: Jet and I were watching the game last night and

1015
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in this bean bag that we have and

1016
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: She's on the couch and I we both look at

1017
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: each other like what the just happened? Like? Who is now?

1018
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: This hits on? Ricky's hitting on something that's interesting to

1019
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: me because uh, Erica and Jet are obviously significantly younger

1020
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: than us. They're in their twenties, and they didn't come

1021
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: from the generation where Chris Berman was famous for doing

1022
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: things like he's from a bygone era and now when

1023
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: you bring them up, you take him out of mothballs

1024
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: and throw them on this halftime show on ESPN. There's

1025
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people that were born like

1026
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: after that don't even have the context to understand what

1027
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: the hell is going on. And I just don't think

1028
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: it's for us. It's supposed to be a nostalgia driven

1029
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: and I guess Miles varies on that, but for everyone else,

1030
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: it's like a total w t F. I don't know

1031
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: if ESPN has piece that together yet. I for me,

1032
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: like it is nostalgic, but I can separate from the

1033
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: fact that, like I'd be panicking over in general ESPN's

1034
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: decisions about their primetime football over the past couple of years,

1035
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: and that this still seems like something that they're sitting

1036
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: around in production meetings saying this sings this is how

1037
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: you this is how you do football. Well, I go ahead, Ricky,

1038
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: so serious, like I'm the halftime and here we are,

1039
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it's going to be a tough one.

1040
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: It's like very quiet and out of nowhere, and I

1041
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: was like, what is what is happening? Here's the thing,

1042
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: though he's been on that halftime show permanently, it's never

1043
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: he's never not been on that halftime show. And I'm

1044
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: with you, Um, it's it's a little much. But hey,

1045
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, NFL Prime Time still going. And Tom Jackson

1046
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: understandably decided to opt out this year because of COVID

1047
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: and just stay and safe, and so you're adding a

1048
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: little bit of younger blood with Booger, and so it's

1049
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: Berman and Booger, and Booger brings the that's your cell. Okay,

1050
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: Wait is that a panic or is that a chill?

1051
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm I'm along for the ride. The

1052
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: website's website Awful Announcing, which does a good media criticism

1053
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: put it very well. I thought, Uh, they used to

1054
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: cover the Chris Burman late Monday night games with great

1055
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: fervor because of how they often went off the rails

1056
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: in those last few years. They called the decision to

1057
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: continue keeping Burman on the year long after his heyday

1058
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: institutional hubris. All right, let's get to a Thursday Night football.

1059
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, I say that having grown up

1060
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: on Chris Burman and I've totally stole Lujiman And some

1061
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: people think that that's me being original. No, I just

1062
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: stole that from Chris Burman, who did it a million

1063
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: times in the nineties on ESPN Prime Time. So all

1064
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: due respect to the big Man ultimately, but we're just

1065
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: having some fun here, all right. The Thursday Night Football

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00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals. Uh, Mark, I imagine if we

1067
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: extended the segment uh panic or chill into this conversation,

1068
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: I have an idea where you would fall. Yeah, I

1069
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: mean I would I think from the from the world

1070
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: of you know, Brown's hot and cold stuff. Um, it's

1071
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: a little panicky. They just didn't show up at all

1072
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Um. I couldn't be more concerned about how

1073
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: long it's gonna take this offense to get its wheels

1074
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: going when you're watching other first year head coaches come

1075
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: out and uh move parts around. I mean, I know,

1076
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: I know that, like the Carolina Panthers fell apart on

1077
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: that last play there, but Matt Rule, you know who,

1078
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: People thoughts could take ten weeks for this team to

1079
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: get together. That offense was fun to watch, I thought,

1080
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: and Cleveland's was the opposite. Um, here's the thing, and

1081
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna filibuster here Austin Cyber gets cut

1082
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: for another terrible open. He gets picked up by the Bengals.

1083
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I have seen this act in this movie. No, but

1084
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: this is this is like, Greg, Greg, you gotta understand something, Greg.

1085
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: It's a team that is getting killed right now because

1086
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: everyone thinks Odell Beckham wants to get traded again or

1087
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: they want to trade Aldo because Mike Francessa put a

1088
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: tweet out. Okay, everyone left and right is ready to

1089
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: pounce on Baker Mayfield and destroy them. This is the

1090
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: last thing I want happening on national television. I want

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00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: the team to have a chance to grow to It's

1092
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: all over the place now, and it's like, what's going on?

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: I wait to hear from Mike Lombardi before I decide

1094
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: which of aging football pundits it's fair. I just I

1095
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, the thing is like you, we keep saying

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: we want to watch quarterbacks that make teams fun. We

1097
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: want to watch fun teams, and you know you sign

1098
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: up for one and you're not gonna walk away. I'm

1099
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: not walking away from them, but this is a sliding

1100
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: This is a black mirror scenario that has happened so

1101
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: many times during the course of our podcast, and it

1102
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: really dips into kind of evil feelings at points where

1103
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is not enjoyable, and the last

1104
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: thing I want is to have Twitter going absolutely nuts

1105
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: every It's all the same characters freaking out about Joe

1106
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Burrow topping Baker Mayfield on Thursday Night, all the little chucklers,

1107
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's not fun. It's not fun being

1108
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: a fan of this. There's twenty nine more interesting, intriguing,

1109
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: fun teams right now. Well, they weren't fun, that's for sure.

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: I only was making a little light of the cyber

1111
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: thing because I saw Tony Gross. He was covered them forever,

1112
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, to say the same thing. It's like, oh,

1113
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, they should have like waited an extra day

1114
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: before they cut cyber, because now it's gonna come back

1115
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: to hanum. If Brown's fans are worrying that cutting cyber

1116
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be the thing that makes or like problems,

1117
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: then you're looking at it and we're looking at it

1118
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: from the POV like a techno crowd on whether or

1119
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: not Austin Cybert is a good roster edition it's the

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00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: kicker that you cut forty eight hours before beating you

1121
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. To do with the person or the person,

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound I don't want to sound

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00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: flip here, Mark, But if Cyber ends up killing you,

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00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: that probably means you at least played a close, competitive game.

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00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: And teams like the Browns and My Jets are included

1126
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: of that didn't even compete in week one, So maybe

1127
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: that is progress even if if that happens. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be because that Week to

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Thursday game is sneaky way up there in terms of

1130
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: visibility because people are still in love with the fact

1131
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: that football is back and it's the only game. And

1132
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: if Baker Mayfield and this offense and it's not all

1133
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: on Baker, it's it's the whole thing. But he is

1134
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: at the front of it, and Odell Beckham certainly is

1135
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: prominently involved with this too, after he bombed out in

1136
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: week one. They need to deliver here. They need to

1137
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: step up and put points on the board and look

1138
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: dangerous or whatever the hell you want to walk in silence.

1139
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: Do whatever you gotta do, but just put some points

1140
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: on the board, and don't put all the pressure on

1141
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: your defense, uh to stop Joe Burrow, because you don't

1142
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: want that to happen, you know, because that happened to

1143
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: me on Thursday night football. In fact, my team when

1144
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: Baker came in against the Jets when he was a

1145
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: rookie and he started getting confident and he was feeling it,

1146
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: uh in primetime under the lights. Put some points on

1147
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: the board and put the rookie quarterback in the spot

1148
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: where the maybe the game script is off and he

1149
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: has to throw the ball more than he wants and

1150
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: you start getting some turnovers. Don't bomb out on offense here,

1151
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: because that's when you're really gonna put yourself uh in

1152
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: position for another embarrassing game. Yeah. My My thing, more

1153
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: Mark is is it's just not about Cyber It's not.

1154
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: It's it's about not being an embarrassment on offense. Because

1155
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: last week's game, they were the most disappointing team. I

1156
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: thought in Week one that was straight out of the

1157
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens. Um, you know, you know best of list.

1158
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't have made more mental mistakes. He

1159
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: got Baker and uh Stefanski talking about what play they

1160
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: want to run on fourth and one with about six

1161
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: seconds on the play clock, you know, left before they

1162
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: like start sprinting in and try to stay like everything

1163
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: was sloppy. And I do go back to the Mayfield

1164
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Beckham connected. It's not being unfair to them. They when

1165
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 1: he throws it to Odell Beckham, bad things happen and

1166
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: they gotta fix that. They gotta fix it fast, because

1167
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: that was one of the worst, like one of the

1168
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: worst um quarterback to wide receiver connections in the league

1169
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: last week was Mayfield to Beckham, Beckham dropping passes. He

1170
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: did a ton of that last year, mental mistakes, Mayfield's

1171
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: missing throws even when he is protected. Offensive line played well,

1172
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: running game was good. That that that wasn't the problem.

1173
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: So I'm not panicking either because it's only one week.

1174
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: But it was about as bad as a week one

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01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: as you can get. And and I think the Thursday

1176
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: game is also tricky, Dan, because you have to play

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01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: two games in five days after not playing anything all season.

1178
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: You are not conditioned for that, and so it's a

1179
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: recipe for more ugly football. I mean, if I were

1180
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: to panic about the Bengals to flip it to them

1181
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: for one minute. I mean, they're all offensive line in

1182
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: that game against the Chargers, and I get that you're playing,

1183
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: um a cast of characters from the Los Angeles side.

1184
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Was was one of the worst games I've seen by

1185
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: an offensive line, and you know, more credit to Joe

1186
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: Burrow for even surviving and making a few plays down

1187
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 1: the stretch. Joe Burrow was not perfect. I keep hearing

1188
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow had this great debut. I mean he

1189
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: was forced into some really bad decisions and looked like

1190
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: a deer in headlights, and also made some great throws

1191
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: where you saw what Joe Burrow can be. I don't

1192
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: know if I trust Cleveland's defense to make any sort

1193
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: of impact the way the Chargers did that could open

1194
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: things up for Joe Burrow. A j Green looked pretty good.

1195
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I could see that connection growing. And I'll

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01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: say this last thing about Odell Beckham that the last

1197
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: time Baker Mayfield was really dangerous was before Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: was on this team. That's eighteen and that's when Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield was the unquestioned alpha male of the Browns. And

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01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: I do wonder a little bit about this what I

1201
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: see with Odell Beckham, and you can tell me if

1202
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: you say something different. Is Baker feeding it to Beckham

1203
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: when it doesn't always make sense and Beckham just making

1204
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: terrible drops in the last game. I mean the chemistry

1205
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: was there. I mean, has been a better player for Cleveland.

1206
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: By the same time, it's more reliable. He's been better.

1207
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't see why that should continue forever. It really shouldn't,

1208
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: but that's just been the facts. I think that was

1209
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: that was ignored when Beckham got traded to the Browns

1210
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: and everybody saw it as the heist of the century.

1211
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: Is like the Giants. How to deal with a lot

1212
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: of crap with Beckham and part of his whole thing

1213
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: is keep him happy, to get him the ball. Everything

1214
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: has to be right. But when things aren't going well,

1215
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: as Beckham the type of guy that makes a team better,

1216
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: or does he drag you down further? Through seventeen games

1217
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: of the experience, I'm not sold on the guy. I

1218
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: guess I never really have. But it's gonna be a

1219
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: fun game. Maybe not for you, Mark, and I get

1220
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: it because I feel the same as you, especially when

1221
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: you're vulnerable after week one. But two people that are

1222
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: less connected to the two teams. It's it's a fun

1223
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: matchup and I'm really looking forward to it. I think

1224
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: it's one of the better Thursday night football games will

1225
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: get all year. Hopefully plays out that way. I'm with you.

1226
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: It's a big game too, you can wipe it all

1227
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: the way. One and one feels great. It's I know

1228
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: you're you're afraid that this is the worst case scenario

1229
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: losing the Bengals, but the flip side of his, you're

1230
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: playing a team that's not that talented and is beatable,

1231
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: and you just the Browns just have to find a

1232
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: way to beat them. I'm I'm kind of shocked that

1233
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: Browns are as heavily favored as they are. I mean,

1234
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: people say, yeah, what's happening there? It's borderline not lockable,

1235
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: which seems crazy, but not that is absurd to me too.

1236
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: Um But but I don't think the Bengals really did

1237
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: much to impress in week one, um in any way,

1238
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: and so that that that should make you feel a

1239
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: little better. Okay, let's let's get out of here. Reminder,

1240
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: Thursday will be our week to preview episode Saturday morning

1241
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. You'll have the network program which is

1242
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: a version of the preview episode. Please check that out.

1243
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: And of course Thursday Night, I don't know, Mark, You're

1244
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: gonna be with us Rain or Shine Thursday Night Recap TVD.

1245
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I'll be in my house, so

1246
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: why not. I mean, if it goes horribly, I think

1247
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: it would be it would lack nobility to not show up.

1248
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean when it's not like this is my first

1249
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: experience with the Browns dropping a gigantic egg on my

1250
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: onlike a primetime game or big spots, So I'll be there.

1251
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: By the way, it's it's cathartic to be able to

1252
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: speak about your team like this, Mark, but it is

1253
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: another reminder that you've told us fourteen times in the

1254
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: offseason that you weren't that you weren't that on board,

1255
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: that you weren't that plugged in. And I could feel

1256
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: how much this game means to you. So I also

1257
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: sincerely hope it goes well. Thank you. I also have

1258
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: been saying for over a month that they would start.

1259
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: Oh and two, I know you're protecting yourself and I

1260
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: am actually just predicting probably the future, and everyone's like, no, Mark,

1261
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: like you just have to be optimistic. It's like, excuse me,

1262
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: thirty four years into this Browns like rooting for the

1263
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: Browns thing, I kind of have a glass fund like

1264
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: impacting doom. But I was gonna say, like, if you

1265
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: already knew they were gonna go own too, why you

1266
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: so passionately upset right now? I understand that's that's the

1267
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: struggle within a true fan, because it's different when it's

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Speaker 1: like everyone's starting to here we come with all the

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Speaker 1: laughter and the giggles. Ever, either going to turn it

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Speaker 1: off or I'm gonna change those texts. The text that

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Speaker 1: could come on Thursday night, I'm not going to be

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Speaker 1: texting weeks. We're gonna have to be like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: gotta delete this, Mark, you got to take this down,

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Speaker 1: Like no, Like it's not even interesting to tweet negatively

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Speaker 1: about the Browns at this point. So yeah, but we'll

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Speaker 1: get some I'll be getting text like, hey have you

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Speaker 1: heard from Mark? Like is he okay? Like because you'll

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Speaker 1: tweeted like wandering the streets with my children dragging behind me,

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Speaker 1: like never returning, Like no, maybe check out our stuff

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot com Greg has his great end of

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Speaker 1: Sunday wrap up and do you have something else that

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Speaker 1: files before week two? Greg got the picks picking games

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Speaker 1: this year your pick them games? Uh, And also the

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Speaker 1: network show Power Rankings are up. They go live every

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning and very excited. Me and Matt money Smith

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Speaker 1: are on the network every Tuesday at three pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: noon Pacific with the Power Ranking Show and Scisslor. You

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Speaker 1: have your weekly column as well. Hot or Not. It's

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Speaker 1: sort of just things that I think are cool, that

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Speaker 1: I like, things I think should be shot into the space,

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Speaker 1: into deep space. I think Eric hired doing a little,

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Speaker 1: uh weekly fantasy thing that we basically write four minutes

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Speaker 1: before we do it. So Hot or Not. That's how

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Speaker 1: Facebook started, right, you know that was well, I hope

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Speaker 1: this has a similar to I might be an IP issue,

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Speaker 1: but you guys worked that out. Okay. That's it's Dan

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Speaker 1: Anthon signing off for Quiet Storm, the old Boss Ricky

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Speaker 1: Hollywood and in there Buddy Kiltarsday. If A. J. Green

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Speaker 1: heard about the Yeah, oh for sure, that's yeah. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Erica's right. Though, Erica's right. If he would have went

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