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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith state is that? Whoo whoom and.

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Speaker 2: No den and tie.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein news flash.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, it's already gonna be Week three?

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Speaker 1: Can you believe it? I can. I can because as

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Speaker 1: the years go by, my body responds more slowly to

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear, it's the most fun I have all

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Speaker 1: fly at midnight Eastern time each Saturday night. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like late stage Dave Winfields just gutting out single

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Speaker 1: Dave Winfield references.

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Speaker 1: Player two, sports star Yeah right, yep, where you're just like, man,

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Speaker 1: I know what his knees feel like just watching him

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Speaker 1: Sundays and maybe early Monday mornings. So yes, I know

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Speaker 1: it's week three. TI here we are.

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Speaker 2: I've compared it to being a running back. The deeper

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Speaker 2: On the field of play, but we are here in

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Speaker 2: our little verballer sphere. Welcome one, Welcome all, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for stopping on back. Week two is in the books.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a little bit of a look back.

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Speaker 2: us keep the lights on. It really does go a

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Speaker 2: know that it really truly does go a long way.

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Speaker 2: With that being said, yeah, we're going to talk through

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Speaker 2: some poll reactions, both to the AP and the Verballer

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Speaker 2: poll that are out there. We're also going to bring

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Speaker 2: back an old crowd favorite of a segment in just

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Speaker 2: a little bit to talk through how we're feeling about

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Speaker 2: week three because, as we have teased now for the

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that in my advice. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Look, I can't say that like this is how every

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Speaker 1: But I think if we are going to do something

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Speaker 1: I want flexibility. I want this to be a limber pole,

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Speaker 2: I am with you. I would also add Missouri and

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Speaker 1: I think what Mississippi State has done. If we're going

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Speaker 1: But they've earned attention.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can say what you're saying right

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Speaker 2: results of their poll here.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're better looking and wiser than most.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, But when people go to vote in that ap pole,

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Speaker 2: in many cases they're basing their current week's vote on

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Speaker 2: There's a hesitance, in my opinion, to drop a team

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Speaker 2: just haven't seen it that prevents the floor from falling out.

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Speaker 1: My question is why, like, why not drop the fourth

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have any bearing on anything, but you can

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Speaker 1: I would have Iowa State higher in the verbaler poll.

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Speaker 1: Are there any teams not anywhere near the top twelve,

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Speaker 1: I'm calling my shot, I'm planting my flag, Dunzo.

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Speaker 2: I am not done zo on Florida, Okay, because this

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Speaker 1: All right, Arizona State. I'm looking at my bank. I

434
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Speaker 1: have not Donezo. Not Donzo, Okay, why not Donzo? Okay?

435
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: It was ugly against Mississippi State, Yes, especially through the air,

436
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: especially the miss assignments on defense, and just I didn't

437
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: love the defensive play calling upon rewatch. They were just

438
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: going for broke a lot. But against this schedule, which

439
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: is not great, I would have liked to have seen.

440
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: So they have Texas State, which you're just gonna need to,

441
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, win that game. Forty five thirty eight or

442
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: something like. Texas State should be able to score on

443
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. Sure they're gonna be able to

444
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: move the ball against Baylor, but the defense is going

445
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: to have to play to a higher level against Baylor,

446
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: especially on the road.

447
00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: I jotted down on my sheet here Baylor, Utah, Iowa State,

448
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: all on the road, and all three might currently be

449
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: better teams than ASU.

450
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: So ASU deserves more of a benefit of the doubt

451
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: than Florida because they won this conference last year with

452
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: this head coach, with this starting quarterback, with a lot

453
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: of the guys on this defense. I know you're gonna

454
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: mention Cam Skataboo, but with the number one receiver, like

455
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: they've earned something more than Florida has in the SEC

456
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Speaker 1: for what ASU can do against the Big twelve. They

457
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Speaker 1: have a run of five straight games. ASU does against quality.

458
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: We believe quality defenses TCU by at Utah, Texas Tech,

459
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: Houston at Iowa State. We think TCUs a quality defense. Yes, Okay,

460
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: I think there are enough guys on that team. Quality

461
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: does not mean great, Quality does not mean really good.

462
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: Quality does not mean excellent. Quality means like, all right,

463
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: there's some talent there. Everybody kind of has an idea

464
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: of what they're going for and the play calling is

465
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: pretty good. Okay, I think that can be what TCU's

466
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: defense is this year, and that with what can be

467
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: an explosive passing attack for TCU. That's a tough game, yeah,

468
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's a tough game totally separate from

470
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: the defense. You're gonna have to score thirty eight points

471
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: to beat TCU, right, yeah, maybe they're gonna score a

472
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: ton of points against everybody they play.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying not Dunzo, because we know there's enough

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Speaker 1: good things about this program, like this was still a

475
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: program that built a team in not that much time

476
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: to the point where they were inches away from beating

477
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: Texas in the playoff. So okay, I'm gonna say not

478
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Dunzo based on benefit of the doubt, though the upcoming

479
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: defenses slash teams in general coming up have me Dunzo adjacent.

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Speaker 2: I'm Donzo.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm out.

482
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out. Unlike Florida with their loss to USSEF,

483
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: I think USF is a pretty good team. I don't

484
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Speaker 2: think Mississippi State's that good at all. Better they got

485
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: to be better than a year ago, but still not great.

486
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Speaker 2: And then you men the schedule thing. I'm not going

487
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: to go back over that. But again, the three that

488
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: I pulled out, Baylor, Utah, Iowa State all on the road,

489
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: and I could probably make a pretty compelling case at

490
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: all three or better teams. Right now.

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Speaker 1: The thing that I think is most concerning though.

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Speaker 2: About ASU and why I'm ultimately done SOO. Sam Levitt

493
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: has not looked good so far.

494
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: I agree he has not looked good.

495
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's had this connection with Jordan Tyson. Everybody's

496
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: excited about that. Jordan Tyson's probably going to be a

497
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: first round pick. You can make a case that Sam

498
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: Levitt is going to be a high pick at some

499
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: point as well. But yep, and this goes back to

500
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Speaker 2: what I said back in July. I am not ready

501
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Speaker 2: to assume that sam Levitt's progress is just going to

502
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: be linear, that we can just assume he's going to

503
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Speaker 2: continue on this upward trajectory. It's going to be a

504
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: hockey stick curve up into the right. He's going to

505
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: go into the stratosphere. He's going to propel ASU to

506
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: another conference title, and they're going to get back to

507
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Speaker 2: the playoff. I don't think we can assume that. I

508
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: really don't and without Scataboo. Listen, I've had so many

509
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: ASU people tell me it doesn't matter. We can Kanye

510
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Yudo has been pretty good okay, and Real Leak Brown. Yeah,

511
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: they've been fine. They're not Cam Skataboo. It's going to

512
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: take multiple guys to get that kind of production, maybe

513
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: to replace that fire. I don't know, so I'm out.

514
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm out. I still think AS is going to be

515
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: a good team, but as a team that gets to

516
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: and plays for the Big twelve them out.

517
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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay. I think it was more situational than anything.

518
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a tough place to play. That team

519
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: was amped up to get ASU, a team that was

520
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: in the playoff last year, blake shape and healthy. I

521
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: think situationally, it was a nice spot for Mississippi State

522
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: and I hope we get to ride that wave a

523
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: little bit further.

524
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Speaker 2: By the way, Cam Skataboo Yeah, fun as hell to

525
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: watch in the New York Giants.

526
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Speaker 1: Oh, he played yesterday.

527
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Speaker 2: He got just like a handful of touches. The first

528
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: play he was in, didn't get the ball at all,

529
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: but leveled a guy in pass protection and then they

530
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: gave the ball right back to him. On like a

531
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: quick throw and he like ran three guys over. He

532
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: might get ball six times a game. That experience, I

533
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: am all in. I feel whatever the ASU people out

534
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: there were feeling a year ago now having him on

535
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: the team that I root for, even though they scored

536
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, six points whatever it was. Uh, he's

537
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: a ton of fun.

538
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's got a new what who was it,

539
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: the big dude, Brandon Jacobs. Yeah, I mean nobody's as

540
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: big as Brandon Jacobs, but you know, the mentality is similar.

541
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Alabama, Dan, Yeah, Alabama won seventy three to zip over ULM.

542
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: Nice bounce back effort. Clearly still a ton of talent.

543
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna win a lot of games. I had them

544
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: as my SEC champion. I had them in my final four.

545
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: Were you out on Alabama? Not even close to Donz?

546
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: No? No, okay. So the reason being is I wanted

547
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: to see something like results against ULM ultimately are going

548
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: to be meaningless. But somebody needed to take the brunt

549
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: of that frustration. And I'm glad Alabama came out and

550
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson came out like he did. And I know

551
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: what Ryan Williams is a little bit dinged up and

552
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: everybody is at this point right and jam Miller didn't

553
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: play or like there are injury stuff in the situations

554
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: to be taken into account. But the way this schedule

555
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: breaks down, getting Oklahoma, LSU, Tennessee all at home, I

556
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: know they have Georgia, Miszoo, South Carolina, obviously Auburn on

557
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: the road. It's not horrible, it's not amazing. And if

558
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: we're going to let Ty Simpson grow into what quarterbacks

559
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: that have played for Kaylin de Boor have grown into,

560
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: if we're going to let the receivers grow into something

561
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: that could be dominant, and the offensive line maybe get

562
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: some time to improve from where they were against Florida State,

563
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: I think betting on talent level and returning talent level

564
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: that have played together in this system on both sides

565
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: of the ball, it's not that difficult to bet. If

566
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: the problem is getting a team to care. The track

567
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: record of Kaylin de Borr, even what should be against

568
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: a pretty difficult schedule this year, you're betting on his

569
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: track record, You're betting on talent. They might not be

570
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: anywhere near where they were at their best under Nick Saban,

571
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: but I'm still gonna say not done. So also, Florida

572
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: State might be good.

573
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Florida State probably is good.

574
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: They're likely good. So if you're saying Bama's done, then

575
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: you're also kind of saying Florida State is just an

576
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: average team, and an average team stomped, Like that's what

577
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: you're saying. And I think Florida State has a chance

578
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: to be really tricky at the very least.

579
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: What I cannot get out of my head, though, yeah,

580
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: is the clip that has been floating around the internet

581
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: of a defender giving minimal effort against Florida State.

582
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Totally might just be the wrong defender. It might just

583
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: be the wrong defender somebody that needs to lose his job.

584
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: And it is probably wrong of me to take that

585
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: and project it out across the entire def in the

586
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: entire team. Sure, but I have not gotten that out

587
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: of my head since I first thought, because Saban would

588
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: have launched that guy into the sun. He never would

589
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: have played again at Alabama if he saw that on tape.

590
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: I think my Alabama SEC Championship pick has done. So, Okay,

591
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is a bad team. I'm not

592
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: saying they don't get it together and go crazy the

593
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: rest of the season, But I am out on them

594
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: as SEC champions because there are other SEC teams at

595
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: this point that I think have looked way more impressive

596
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: so far. Who, like, if you want to meet to

597
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: power rank, let's say the top four SEC teams, sure,

598
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: who have looked the best to your eye?

599
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so far this year, no particular order.

600
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: Sure, Oklahoma, Okay, Tennessee Okay, Missoo, Okay, LSU. I think

601
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: they've all looked better than BAMA. And to your point,

602
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily take a whole lot of way from

603
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: stomp in ULM, but I think there are other teams

604
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: across this conference that right now, get my blood phone

605
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more.

606
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I know what you're still wagering on. What an LSU

607
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: offense that hasn't done much that probably can offense that

608
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: hasn't done much, or a defense. No LSU, I'm saying

609
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: this ye is season, it's the offense that's holding LSU back. Okay,

610
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: or in two games and one of them was enough

611
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: to beat what we think is a quality for SU.

612
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, Now I understand, I hear you.

613
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Miszoo's signature win is against a team that will likely

614
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of defensive struggles this year. Yeah, Texas

615
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: hasn't shown much, Right, I didn't say Texas. I know

616
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: you didn't list Texas, but I'm just saying the teams that,

617
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: like Georgia hasn't shown a ton no. So I'm just saying,

618
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: right now, if Alabama's deficiency is losing to a good

619
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: team on the road in unimpressive fashion and not giving effort,

620
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: not having fire, not looking like a team that should

621
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: be wearing the colors that it's wearing based on what

622
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: we saw that from them for so long, the only

623
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: question I have for you is basically like, Okay, so

624
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Alabama's done in your eyes, but it's time for Joey

625
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Aguilar to assume that place in your life, Like, Okay,

626
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to, like you kind of

627
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: have to gamble on something somewhat big, uh in the

628
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: sec If you're feeling confident in any one specific team

629
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: in this moment.

630
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: You do, absolutely And I think that's a very valid point.

631
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: And again this is not me saying Bama's going six

632
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: and six for sure. I think this is still a

633
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: really good team. What I'm saying is Donezo is my

634
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: pick of them winning the SEC, they could still find

635
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: their way into the playoff. Totally listen. I was higher

636
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: on Alabama than like most people out there. I really

637
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: like this see and everybody else was pretty high and

638
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm too, yep, but I've been all in on Alabama

639
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: with how much they have back. I still like Kaitlin Debor,

640
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: I like Tyson like this is well documented at this point,

641
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the pick of them winning the SEC

642
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: for me is done.

643
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just yeah. The only thing I would

644
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: add is, you can figure out how to light a

645
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: fire under a team, It's very difficult to figure out

646
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: how to make a player immediately. A lot more talented,

647
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 1: and Alabama has the talent. So a lot of talented

648
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Speaker 1: teams have had horrible seasons. But if I'm going to

649
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Speaker 1: pick one of those things, I'm going to pick fire.

650
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Speaker 2: So we should drill Wisconsin this weekend.

651
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Speaker 1: If you're right, I agree. Although I don't know if

652
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Speaker 1: you've seen Danny O'Neil's hair, he's got the hair to

653
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Speaker 1: make some noise.

654
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Speaker 2: Boise State, Dan Boise State. We both had him as

655
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Speaker 2: a playoff team. Yes, Dunzo not Donezo.

656
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Not done so no, Well, same line of thinking, if

657
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Speaker 1: we believe USF to have had the most impressive season

658
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: thus far, then you can't fully penalize and write off

659
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Speaker 1: Boise for losing to them the way they lost to them. Sure,

660
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: the lack of fight from Boise State. Sure, but also

661
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: look at Boise's schedule moving forward. Dude, there are three

662
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Speaker 1: more losses on this schedule against whom there are three

663
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Speaker 1: more Notre Dame and who else.

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Speaker 2: I'll pull it up. I counted three. They could lose

665
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Speaker 2: to Notre Dame for sure. I mean they will. They're

666
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Speaker 2: going to lose to Notre Dame. I just okay, I'm

667
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: saying this as a Notre Dame fan, so forgive me

668
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: if I sound a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: It's in South Bend. Continue, but that.

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Speaker 2: That based on the version of Boise that we saw

671
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Speaker 2: against USF, that should be a loss. App State. Do

672
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Speaker 2: not take app State for granted. There's a lot new

673
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Speaker 2: app States looked really good so far. Games at allah UNLV,

674
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Speaker 2: What do we think UNLV has? I don't think they

675
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Speaker 2: play defense, but I think they can score. That's of

676
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Speaker 2: interest to Me's interesting?

677
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Speaker 1: Well, where's that game? That game is also in? That

678
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: game is also in Boise Yeah, Fresno State.

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Speaker 2: I don't think super highly of Fresno State, but Fresno

680
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: State I actually think has been a little bit better

681
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Speaker 2: than I expected so far.

682
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Speaker 1: That typically is weird game.

683
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Speaker 2: That one's also in Boise as well. Yeah, I'm just saying,

684
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Speaker 2: I hear where you're coming from. But based on what

685
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: we saw against USF, that was a mistake prone effort.

686
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: It seemed like it was all a Maddox manson. I'm out,

687
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Speaker 2: I'm done.

688
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: So, Dinze, I've got.

689
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Speaker 2: Somebody else going to the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Boise, no problem, could go nine and three, ten two.

691
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Speaker 1: Kansas State, I can't state has done so, Dinzel, agree.

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Speaker 2: Or disagree, I think they're done, so, Dinze.

693
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Speaker 1: So okay, track record, Chris climbing a good thing. The

694
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: way they've looked this year with as much as they

695
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Speaker 1: have returning. And I know Dylan Edwards is hurt and

696
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. But I don't know, if you're

697
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Speaker 1: a team that's supposed to be challenging for a conference Crown,

698
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: a running back going down early can't completely derail your season.

699
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: With how long he's been there and the opportunities they've

700
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Speaker 1: had to recruit and how many good running backs they've

701
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Speaker 1: had in Manhattan, And it's so much more than just

702
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: not having Dylan Edwards at this point. The way that

703
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: they couldn't do much with the opportunities that they had

704
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: on offense against Army fresh off of Tarleton State win

705
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Speaker 1: or loss to Tarleton State, based on the struggles that

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Speaker 1: they had in Ireland and the struggles they had against

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Speaker 1: North Dakota, like that very much should have been a

708
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: like take out all of your Irish frustrations on this

709
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: team at home that's playing on the FCS level, and

710
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: North Dakota is not an especially good FCS team, to

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Speaker 1: be clear, So I am I'm out on Kansas State

712
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: at this point because they just haven't shown that fire,

713
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: they haven't shown that explosion, they haven't shown that gear

714
00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: at all that they can get past poor performances. So

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Speaker 1: what have we seen from Avery Johnson to make you

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Speaker 1: think that like he can consistently be dependable and a

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: reason that they're scoring.

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00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: Forty plus things? We haven't seen it.

719
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: You've seen plays where were like, if he could do

720
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: this way more often, that'd be super fun. But then

721
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: you see flubbed handoffs and bad interceptions and just inconsistent

722
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: performance where You're just like, if a team's identity is

723
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: what their quarterbacks identity is at the end of the day,

724
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: then this seems like a seven and five team.

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Speaker 2: For what it's worth, I checked the sp plus. The

726
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: sp plus has Kansas State losing six of their next

727
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: nine games with like no data, but no declayer with

728
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: no data, and that's going to change a thousand times over.

729
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: So certainly, do not take that as gospel by any stretch.

730
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Speaker 2: But like usually, by now three games into this thing,

731
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Speaker 2: you start to see some progress. You hope to see

732
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: some of the wrongs being righted right feeling like there

733
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: is positive momentum for a lot of teams across college football.

734
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Speaker 2: That is what happens between your first and your second gamer,

735
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: in some cases between your second and your third. But

736
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: we're now three weeks into this thing for k State,

737
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: and each week has been pretty bad. So I'm with

738
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Speaker 2: you on being Donzo. I had k State winning the conference,

739
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: going to the playoff. I mean, I'm not going to

740
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: go super duper crazy and say I'm not sure if

741
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: they're making a bowl, but seven and five is getting

742
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: awfully big in the window.

743
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Yep.

744
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: So I think relative to preseason expectations for sure, I'm

745
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: donezo on them.

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Speaker 1: We've seen enough squares be removed from the poster of

747
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: Rachel Phelps from the movie Major League. Like, I'm not

748
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: sure exactly what this Kansas State poster is going to

749
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: look like, but I'm seeing some squares. Yeah, and I

750
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: can surmise what's behind the rest of those squares. That

751
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: has me a little bit worried.

752
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when they pulled all the squares off, there

753
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: was a caption next to Rachel Phelps that read, you

754
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: guys stink and that might be where we're headed with

755
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: k State.

756
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: That's true. Also, I just had to google the last

757
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: name I knew was Rachel. I didn't remember Phelps, so

758
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: I did not have that in the old Sarahbellum at

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00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: the ready, Let's do one more, Okay, let's Virginia Tech.

760
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: It's a donzo for me, Ty, I'm not going to

761
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: play it a second time.

762
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to add insult injury to the Tech

763
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: fans out there, but I'm with you, right, Why are

764
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: you done?

765
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Zoe the manner? It's not just going oh in two

766
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Speaker 1: because I think we agree that at the very least,

767
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Speaker 1: this is like my word of the season that South

768
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Carolina and Vanderbilt a quality sure, maybe not world beaters,

769
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: maybe not threatening for an SEC crown. These are two

770
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: bowl type SEC teams.

771
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: Look, there are probably one hundred other teams across college

772
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: football that played a much easier slate of teams first

773
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: two games than Virginia Sex. So yes, a the opponents

774
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 2: for sure.

775
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: This is what Kyroen Drones's third season starting at this

776
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: point feels like his eighth. But yes, continue, Brent Price

777
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: has been there long enough we kind of have a

778
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: sense for once again what their strengths and weaknesses are

779
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: based on. You know, it's it's difficult to say a

780
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: team is done when they've exclusively played quality opponents, but

781
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: those quality opponents also reveal realities that lesser than opponents

782
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: don't necessarily reveal, Like Oregon's not going to score sixty

783
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: five points a game this season, but they've played Montana

784
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: State and Oklahoma State. We'll see what happens when they

785
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: play teams of Vanderbilt and South Carolina's level, but giving

786
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: up leads, not performing in the red zone, making boneheaded plays,

787
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: having opportunities, and not being able to take advantage closing

788
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: second halves like they've closed them. What is there to

789
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: give you confidence that when they get into the meat

790
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: of their schedule against comparable teams or teams that can

791
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: do one specific thing really well on one side of

792
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: the ball. What gives you confidence in Virginia Tech to say, oh, yeah,

793
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: they can figure that out on the fly. Not a

794
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: lot for me.

795
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: So they just got smoked in the second half against Vandy.

796
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: They got absolutely smoked, And that to me was the

797
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: big red flag. Yeah, you know, if you're going down

798
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: with a whimper in a very winnable game. And I

799
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: know some people argue with me when I said that

800
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: Vandy has or or Virginia Tech has a better roster

801
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: than Vandy or it's a very winnable game for Virginia

802
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: Tech against these teams are about even. The point spread

803
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 2: was give or take a few points one way or another.

804
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: But Vegas saw these two teams on about equal footing.

805
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: Vandy ran away and hid in the second half of

806
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: that game. And that always creeps me out when I

807
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: see it, because I ask a question about effort. I

808
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: asked to start asking the culture questions, right, all these

809
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: things that are below the surface that speak more to

810
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: the integrity of the program as a whole and not

811
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: just the team you see on the field. All of

812
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: that stuff starts to come up, and unfortunately that reflects

813
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: on a guy like a Brent Prye. Sure, at this

814
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: point in time, Brent Price is done, man, this is

815
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: a done deal where they're going to be looking elsewhere. Yea,

816
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: unless they go on some improbable run rip through the ACC.

817
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: None of these were conference games, mind you, So I

818
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: suppose there's still a chance unless they go on some

819
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: improbable run and Kyrone Drones or somebody else, right, Garrett

820
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: Wrangel or Pop Watson, they bring somebody else in their

821
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: quarterback that gives them a little bit more fire. But

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00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: short of that, totally done on Virginia Tech, totally donezo

823
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: on Brent pry and I think can't start soon enough

824
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: looking for a new coach if things don't turn around soon,

825
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: because this has just been a really, really awful way

826
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Speaker 2: for them to open up their year.

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Speaker 1: They they basically need to beat Cal and Virginia to

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Speaker 1: have any hope of getting to five and seven. To

829
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: get to eight wins at this point means Odu Wafford,

830
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: Wake Forest, Virginia, Cal Louisville, I don't. I don't know

831
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Speaker 1: how you even like it's NC state on the road. Yeah,

832
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: you gotta really believe in something that hasn't been on

833
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: the field thus far.

834
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, So we do agree right in again,

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Speaker 2: soliverbogmail dot com. Let us know your thoughts on all

836
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: of these teams.

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Speaker 1: Dunzo not Dunzo.

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Speaker 2: So we've been doing this the last couple weeks now,

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Speaker 2: and I actually really like it. I really like it. Typically,

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Speaker 2: what we've done over the course of all these years

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Speaker 2: of doing this shows we've crammed everything into that Thursday

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Speaker 2: episode and we start previewing games, and when we do that,

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Speaker 2: we leave ourselves a little bit shortsighted in that we're

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Speaker 2: the way that we would like. So by moving them

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Speaker 2: a little bit earlier in the week gives us a

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Speaker 2: on Thursdays to make sure that we cover all that

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Speaker 2: college football has to We've got three big games here

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Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about. We will talk about

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Speaker 2: them a little bit again on Thursday. So if you

863
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Speaker 2: miss this, that's fine, or if you just want to

864
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: hear some new thoughts, you can go and listen to that.

865
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: So wait, are you telling people if they are missing

866
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: the thing they're actively listening to right now?

867
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: Listen? Sometimes just making sure sometimes your voice gets out

868
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: in front of your brain. And that was one of

869
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: those instances.

870
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate it. I was gonna let it slide.

871
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: No, No, you can't let that slide.

872
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: If you are not listening to the thing you're listening to,

873
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: don't worry. We've got you covered. What Three point thirty

874
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: on ABC.

875
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: Georgia on the Road at Tennessee both teams two and

876
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: zero at time of recording, Dan, Yes, George is only

877
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: a three and a half point favorite in this game.

878
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: It's down from four and a half when I made

879
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: the document like an hour ago. Yeah, so clearly there

880
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: is a lot of steam on Tennessee right now. Now,

881
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: full disclosure and no disrespect to Sarahcuse or East Tennessee.

882
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: Okay, but here comes some disrespect.

883
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: I don't think either one of those teams was really

884
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: good enough to challenge the biggest question on Tennessee, at

885
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: least on offense, which is the old line. So the

886
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: vows of a great so far, the early reviews on

887
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: Joey Aguilar have been off the charts beaming. But if

888
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: we're being real here, that's the matchup.

889
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: No a good.

890
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: Georgia front, a rebuilt line, which one of those two

891
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: is going to get the better of the other.

892
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: And Kirby's track record with Tennessee and Josh Heipel is exemplary, exemplary.

893
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: Now, with that being said, and the reason I said

894
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: full disclosure, I am going to describe now exactly what

895
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: I warned everybody else about when we did the collab

896
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: with Josh Pate. Yeah, and the reason I'm bringing it

897
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: up is because I am falling into my own trap. Literally,

898
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: My whole theory was that Tennessee was gonna come out

899
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: of the gates ball of fire, make everybody forget about

900
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: how much new they have, and then they were going

901
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: to lose to Georgia and all will be forgotten and

902
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: it'd be fine because Tennessee fans, I think, are happy

903
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: with the direction of the program. They're certainly happy with

904
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: the way things have looked early. Sure, but that was

905
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: my whole theory for how September was going to shake

906
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: out for the Balls.

907
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: What I did not anticipate, though, was.

908
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: Feeling this lukewarm on Georgia. Right, I don't think they've

909
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: looked that good so far. I went and I looked

910
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: at their stats. This has been a pickleball passing offense.

911
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: Do you know what the average airy yards per completion

912
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: number is for the Georgia Bulldog so far?

913
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: Seventeen inches? No, what is it? One point eight.

914
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Yards per completion? Air yards per completion?

915
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: One point eight air yards per completion. Correct, Oh, that

916
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: doesn't seem good and I triple checked it.

917
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Dog. Okay, that is an extreme pickleball passing offense if

918
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: we've ever seen one on this show.

919
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

920
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: So I just have to ask the question, and this

921
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: is what changed my mind. Are you gonna give that

922
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: against Tennessee? Are you gonna tell Tennessee, hey, bring your

923
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: safeties up. Yeah, We're gonna throw everything within one point

924
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: eight yards of the line of scrimmage.

925
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: Do we think that's gonna work against Tennessee Valls? Even

926
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: if there are.

927
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: Questions about that line, it's still pretty good defense. No?

928
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so?

929
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: Are you just gonna let the safeties creep? Are you

930
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: gonna rely on Zachariah branch or whoever breaking a tackle

931
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: and running for one? Is that gonna be the passing offense?

932
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: I ask you?

933
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, I'm willing to let this offense grow into

934
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: something with a new quarterback and some new line, some

935
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: new receiving talent. Like I don't think this is a

936
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: finished product offense in Athens. They will look more explosive

937
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: and more competent as the season goes on. But if

938
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: you're just gonna ride, if you're gonna buy a ticket

939
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: on the Underthink Express, you're saying this is an unproven

940
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Georgia offense as a favorite on the road against what

941
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: our perception tells us is at least a pretty good,

942
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: if not really good Tennessee defense, And I just I

943
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: think you have to earn that kind of respect to

944
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: be a favorite against that kind of team. I don't

945
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: think this Tennessee team to go on the other side,

946
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: is a finished product either.

947
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I agree with that one hundred percent.

948
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: And so even though the early results are good, I'm

949
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: not sure I love Syracuse after needing everything that they

950
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: could muster to force overtime against ucon Older respect to UKON,

951
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: but I think Syracuse is taking a step back this year.

952
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: So how much do I respect Tennessee's dominance of them

953
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: or do I say, yeah, that's probably what a quality

954
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: a good team should do against Syracuse this year, given

955
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: what Tennessee has on both sides of the ball. And

956
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: obviously I don't take much East Tennessee state, but Georgian

957
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: not taking care of business this early. It's what Marshall

958
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: and Austin p you mentioned the numbers. Well, you can

959
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: just watch this game and know that this is not

960
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: a rhythmic offense in this moment. And so I think

961
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: the best of whatever this Georgia team is can beat

962
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: Tennessee Week three. It's not for me. I'm taking Tennessee

963
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: here and the points happily. Game's gonna end at night.

964
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: By the way, it's a three thirty kick right, Yeah,

965
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: so you're ending at seven eight pm local. Yep Oh.

966
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: I found myself asking a lot of the same questions

967
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: of the Georgia offense that I've been wondering about for

968
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: over a year now with a Notre Dame offense, and

969
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: that's not right I expect to be now. Could they

970
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: change the game plan, Yeah, they could change the game plan.

971
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: Could they grow into it. Yeah. Tennessee's going to be

972
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: without their two starting corners, right. Jermad McCoy is still out, Yeah,

973
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: of course, working his way back from the ACL. Ricky

974
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: Gibson's out for undisclosed reasons. So could that play a factor. Sure,

975
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: But as I said at the beginning of this segment,

976
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: we don't know anything for sure. It's impossible to know

977
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: for sure. I think we've prefaced everything we said on

978
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: this episode with that with that qualifier. But based on

979
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: the limited sample size, Tennessee home dog of the Week,

980
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.

981
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: The Yakus home Dog of the Week quite literally a

982
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: good dog on the Tennessee sideline.

983
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely smoky baby, Yeah, I got them winning out right

984
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: thirty one twenty four.

985
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: I like my supposed top tennis teams to look like

986
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: they can do things easily, even if it's early on

987
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: in the season, but especially against teams that they should

988
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: be able to find ease against. And it's just been

989
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: too difficult for Georgia this early. So yeah, Tennessee here.

990
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: One point eight air yards per completion.

991
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Yep, crazy, yep. Seven point thirty ABC.

992
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: The aforementioned Florida Gators at one in one go into

993
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: Death Valley Tiger Stadium square off against LSU, which is

994
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: two and zero and a nine and one half point favorite.

995
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be the most entertaining

996
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: team entertaining game of the day. Usually is I'm thrilled

997
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: about this game. Where are you at here?

998
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking points? It's just too many points. I'm just

999
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: at this point of the season and I say this

1000
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: every year. It's the like, what have you done to

1001
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: earn this? What LSU has done is beaten Clemson on

1002
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: the road and held on to that win, and it's

1003
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: impressive and we can't take that away. But what I

1004
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: also see from LSU is for some reason, probably offensive

1005
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: line issues, probably running game ish shoes, maybe a couple

1006
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: of Garrett nus Meyer decision issues. They didn't look particularly

1007
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: comfortable doing easy things last week. They couldn't finish drives

1008
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: against Louisiana Tech. They still are struggling to run the ball.

1009
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: There was one really nice run from was harlem Berry,

1010
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: the freshman who cut across the field. That was really nice.

1011
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not sold on LSU as a top five, seven,

1012
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: eight nine team based on what we've seen this year.

1013
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: I know they've earned that kind of ranking because of

1014
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: the Clemson win. In my eyes, sure by in terms

1015
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: of what I want to see, especially given the experience

1016
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: of Garrett nus Meyer, that Brian Kelly's been there long enough.

1017
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: It's weird to me that the offense has sort of

1018
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: started sluggishly. So I just don't think they're a team

1019
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: that is built whatever you think. Florida is average, below average,

1020
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: above average, but can look below average at any given moment.

1021
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: I just think it's going to be a back and

1022
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: forth game between flawed teams. I think LSU wins this game,

1023
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: but that number is too big to me, so I

1024
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: think it's back and forth. I think I'll have it

1025
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: something like, I don't know. I actually wrote down a

1026
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: score in my document. I want to get it right.

1027
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty LSU wins this game. Oh, low scoring,

1028
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: relatively low swow.

1029
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be something. Look time's going to tell if

1030
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: Florida was playing in a look ahead spot a week

1031
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: ago against USF. I think what's most concerning how they

1032
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: shot themselves in the foot and specifically what I mentioned

1033
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: on the recap show about how it just you watch

1034
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: that game, it felt like DJ Lagway was getting worse.

1035
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: He seemed to like not have a great feel in

1036
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: the pocket, and when he did have time in the pocket,

1037
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: he was rushing things or was quick to pull the

1038
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: ball down and run like there was just the poise

1039
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be at a place where I thought

1040
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: it would be with him in a second year as

1041
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: a transcendent quarterback. Well, and granted, look.

1042
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: Could end up being a playoff team, absolutely, that could

1043
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 2: end up being a good team. But still I think

1044
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: if you teleport that version of Florida that we saw

1045
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: in Week two and put it in Tiger Stadium at

1046
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: night against LSU, they probably lose by twenty four points,

1047
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: so I don't expect we're going to get that version

1048
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: of Florida. I think they'll be tuned up for this game.

1049
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: Great.

1050
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: The pressure is now really on Billy Napier, really on Florida.

1051
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: Remember the win total for Florida was seven and a half.

1052
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that that was assuming a win over USF.

1053
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: So if you bet the over, they're definitely sitting up

1054
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: in your chair a little bit.

1055
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: YEP. I think the X factor here is going.

1056
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: To be that LSU defense because it looked out standing

1057
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: on the road against Clemson in Week one, and for me,

1058
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: that was like, low key maybe the biggest story of

1059
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: the weekend because an offense this good most of the time,

1060
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: with a defense that look that good is probably playing

1061
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: for the SEC title. Sure. The question I have though,

1062
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: is was the defense really that good or was Clemson

1063
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: just kind of stumbling offensively out of the gate.

1064
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: Buddy, say what you about Clemson, but they are likely

1065
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: better than Troy. That's my point, right, They are likely,

1066
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: that's my point, better than Troy. You can build a

1067
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: pretty strong.

1068
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: Case through two weeks of the season that Clemson isn't

1069
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: there yet offensively, so pump the brakes a little bit.

1070
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: LS.

1071
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: You look good on defense. Kind of take that for

1072
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: what it is. But I'm going to fall somewhere in

1073
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: the middle. I'm tempering my excitement over the LC defense

1074
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: because I'm not sure about Clemson. Looking forward now into

1075
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: this game, I think we're looking at a situation where

1076
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: one of these teams, or both of these teams have

1077
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: to try and open it up a little bit more

1078
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: in order to win.

1079
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they'd like to, but Garretnusmeyer can also underthrow somebody. Yeah.

1080
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: I think the winner of this game is going to

1081
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: be whoever has the most chunk plays through the air. Okay,

1082
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: And I say that because I also looked at the numbers.

1083
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: Maybe I was just on another air yards kick. But

1084
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: for as much of a gun slinger as Garrett Nusmeyer

1085
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: is branded, we haven't really seen LSU open it up either.

1086
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: No, well, they've tried to. They've tried to, but not

1087
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: do it successfully all the time.

1088
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of shorter stuff to Aaron

1089
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: Anderson to get him in space. He's very good in space.

1090
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: Barrion Brown the transfer from Kentucky, he's mostly been out wide,

1091
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: like eighty eight percent at the time, but he's been

1092
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: more of a possession guy. Nine yards per reception, nine

1093
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: air yards per reception, right, catch it and drop potentially

1094
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 2: is what that amounts to Florida. Florida's used Vernel Brown

1095
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: the third as their burner, but Trey Wilson has like

1096
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: three point eight a dot. Right, he's not really getting

1097
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: a whole lot with respect to deep attempts.

1098
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: By the way, define a dot average depth of target. Okay,

1099
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: thank you.

1100
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 2: So he's been out there catching balls. I think leads

1101
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: a team in receptions, but not exactly working down the field.

1102
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: We haven't seen Dallas Wilson at all, the five star

1103
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: freshmen yet to play. He still in a.

1104
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: Boot, So I think that, to me is where.

1105
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: I was focused the most on when I was trying

1106
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: to put the pieces together for this one. Somebody's going

1107
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: to have to open it up, and I believe that

1108
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: whoever gets the most chunk plays through the air is

1109
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: going to be the one that emerges victorious. But frankly,

1110
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: we haven't seen it from either team thus far, which

1111
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: is why it's important here, and somebody's going to have

1112
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: to break tendency. I think this is fun as hell.

1113
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: I think this is back and forth. I think it's

1114
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: high scoring. I think LSU wins thirty eight to thirty one.

1115
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: But I'm all over Florida plus those points. Man Like,

1116
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: despite what we saw last week, they're better than that.

1117
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: They've got the firepower if they play a good game

1118
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: to beat LSU. It wouldn't surprise me if they did.

1119
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm not calling for that. I'm calling for them to cover.

1120
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Though thirty eight thirty one, LSU wins, Florida covers that number.

1121
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we agree. By the way, to be clear,

1122
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: how many touchdowns did Florida score against USF. They scored

1123
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: one touchdown and guess how many yards they had to

1124
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: drive to get to the end zone. I want to

1125
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: say it was like twenty yards. It was after a

1126
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: long punt return aided by I think a penalty. So

1127
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about now playing against an all due respect

1128
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: to the I don't know the audacity of the Todd

1129
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: Orlando defense at USF. Els you's got more talent. Ohahse

1130
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: game's at LSU. I know it's not going to get

1131
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: easier necessarily. And DJ Lagway does have that same gunslinger

1132
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: mentality that the interception he threw was rolling out to

1133
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: the right, throwing across his body in the air and

1134
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: threw a terrible ball down the middle. Just like if

1135
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: you have the ability to do that, I'm worried about

1136
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: your ability to put up three point fifty at LSU

1137
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: in a winning effort. That's all.

1138
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Final preview here NBC Texas A and M two and

1139
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: oh Notre Dame, oh and one. The Irish are a

1140
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: six and one half point home favorite. Dan, Yeah, I

1141
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: have a lot to say, I'm sure on this game.

1142
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: It is one team clearly that I know and love.

1143
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: It is another that I just found myself loving more

1144
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: than I expected in the preseason. So I'm very torn

1145
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: on this matchup. If I'm being objective about it, I'm

1146
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 2: very torn. Ty's' brullian to continue on what goes down here?

1147
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: Why don't you lead us off? Where are you at

1148
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: Texas A and M on the road at Notre Dame?

1149
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Okay? I like Notre Dame a lot here Why and

1150
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't going into my prep for this.

1151
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: But the more I dug in, the more I think

1152
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: I like Notre Dame. Here the reason I don't like

1153
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and I'm not a Harry Potter. Person ty,

1154
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: have you seen the Harry Potter films or read the books?

1155
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: All? I didn't read the books, but I've seen all

1156
01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: the movies.

1157
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: I assume on some level somebody is like the keeper

1158
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: of the spells or the potions, right that you're like, oh,

1159
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: I need to do this, so let me look up

1160
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: a good spell that'll get this done, that'll make a

1161
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: horse appear, or will make lightning rain down from the sky.

1162
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: I think that's what they did. Yeah, maybe course of

1163
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: pure sure.

1164
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I assume Mike Elcho in his brain has a

1165
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: cast of spells at the ready for very specific situations,

1166
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: and probably loves the idea of getting to game plan

1167
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: against an extremely green quarterback like that is something that

1168
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: probably excites any defense of any quality defensive coordinator that like, ooh,

1169
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: I get to do stuff. I get to play around

1170
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: with stunts and coverages and whatever to make this quarterback

1171
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: who has played basically no games sea ghosts expelle armis right.

1172
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Again, I assume at some point I

1173
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: will I have small children. They're gonna want to read

1174
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: and watch Harry Potter. But that's what gives me pause

1175
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: about this, that CJ. Carr not a finished product. The

1176
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 1: Notre Dame passing attack has not been incredible these past

1177
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: couple of years. Continue so Mike Alco incredible defensive mind

1178
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: who now has talent on that side of the ball,

1179
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: has more depth, There has options to make CJ. Carr uncomfortable.

1180
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: That's what I like about Texts A and M, aside

1181
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: from the other quality things, but like just in a

1182
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: more abstract way. That's what I enjoy. What I like

1183
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: about Notre Dame is game against Miami on the road

1184
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: was winnable. They're now coming home, They're coming off a

1185
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: bye week, they have different ways to win. I don't

1186
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: think Texas A and M's offense is anywhere near explosive

1187
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: enough through the air to scare Notre Dame into playing

1188
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: conservatively on defense. Notre Dame very famously likes to and

1189
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: has continued to play defense. Texts A and M is

1190
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: bringing a bunch of five to nine, five to eleven

1191
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: six foot receivers to this Notre Dame secondary, which should

1192
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: have guys in this secondary, new guys, old guys, whatever,

1193
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: licking their chops because I don't think they're gonna be

1194
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: pushed around by these receivers. I don't think these receivers

1195
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: as quality as they are. Again, that's my word of

1196
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: the season. Mario Kraver, Casey Concepcion, Terry Bussey, take your pick.

1197
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: They're not out jumping. They're not winning a ton of

1198
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty balls. So that means Texts A and

1199
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: M is going to need to get work done on

1200
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: the ground. That means Texas A and M is gonna

1201
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: have to get work done in the red zone on

1202
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: special teams and do it all on the road against

1203
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: what should be a really good Notre Dame defense and

1204
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: a pretty patient Notre Dame offense. If they're gonna lean

1205
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: on the run, lean on tight end, and get I

1206
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get more out of receiver this year

1207
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: with Malachi Fields and Jaden Greathhouse, CJ. Carr will continue

1208
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: to get better. I just think it's a good spot

1209
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame coming off of bye to win this game.

1210
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: Not with ease, not with comfort, but I think confidence.

1211
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: So I have Notre Dame here, I'll put it down

1212
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven to seventeen. I think they win this game

1213
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: by ten points, and I think it's just a good matchup.

1214
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: Marcel Reid will play little dinged up offensive line has

1215
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: been okay for Texas A and M thus far, but

1216
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: I think Texas A and M is more of a

1217
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: grower than a shower in early September.

1218
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I mean, all the points you bring up

1219
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: are I think incredibly valid. The biggest matchup for me

1220
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: is what you mentioned at the very end, though, and

1221
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: it's that Texas A and M offensive line against Notre

1222
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: Dame's defensive front. Notre Dame did get bullied a bit

1223
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: by Miami, sure, in that not the whole game, not

1224
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: even for one hundred and fifty yards on the ground,

1225
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: but on some of those longer drives earlier in the game.

1226
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: I think Miami really set the tone by getting good

1227
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: push up front. Now, to Notre Dame's credit, they did

1228
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: get better as the game went on. By the time

1229
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: that game concluded, Miami wasn't doing much on offense at all.

1230
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: But Texas A and M is going to build the

1231
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: whole plane out of that mentality, and I think that's worrying.

1232
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: The outcome of this game, in my view, is directly

1233
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: related to how well A and M can run the football,

1234
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: because their winning formula is not going to be thirty

1235
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: passing attempts with Marcel.

1236
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: Reid, right, and that's not his strength. Yeah.

1237
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: The winning box scorer for A and M looks something

1238
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: like one hundred and ninety two yards on the ground,

1239
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: seventeen passing attempts probably what thirty eight minutes of possession? Right,

1240
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: that's what it looks like. I think we can probably agree.

1241
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: On that, right, yep.

1242
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: The other thing that I think about often now since

1243
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: I've had two weeks to ruminate over this loss, is

1244
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: something that you have been saying for a couple of

1245
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: years now. I'm ready, Mike Denbrock. The Mike Denbrock experience

1246
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: left a little bit to be desired, has.

1247
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: Not not for LSU, but for Notre Dame. Yeah, a

1248
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean they went to the National Championship

1249
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: last year. You can't be too critical.

1250
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: Well, no, but I haven't seen a great explanation for

1251
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: what they tried to do against Miami. You probably never will.

1252
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: And this feels like it's year two of oh man,

1253
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: wait till he cranks this thing up, it's gonna be.

1254
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: I think that was protecting CJ. Carr in Miami to

1255
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: a certain certain extent. Get him one start under his belt.

1256
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: And a bye week, and perhaps we see a little

1257
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: bit more.

1258
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: Never opened it up last year. It never happened in spots. Yes,

1259
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: overall philosophy of this offense was very pickaball last year. Sure,

1260
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: maybe Mike dan Brock is a good coordinator. Maybe he's

1261
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: just a coordinator who looked into Jade and Daniels. Those

1262
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: guys tend to make everybody look good. He win a

1263
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy.

1264
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: What and Malik neighbors Brian Thomas.

1265
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah it was Ridiculouah that helps you know. Yeah, So

1266
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: this is like I like the higher. I still like

1267
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: the higher, and I still think clearly there's nowhere to

1268
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: go about up CJ.

1269
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: Carr.

1270
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: This is an offense with a lot of potential, but

1271
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: the game plan left me a little bit worried. That

1272
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: matchup makes me a little bit worried. I do think

1273
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: the version of Notre Dame that we saw in the

1274
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: second half against Miami is going to be more what

1275
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: we get the rest of the way. I think CJ. Carr,

1276
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: all things considered, look really good in his first start.

1277
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: They've now had multiple weeks to lick their wounds to

1278
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: prep for this one. There needs to be more emphasis

1279
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: on the running game, separate from what you had to

1280
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: say about Jeremiah Love, which is accurate. They need to

1281
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: emphasize that a little bit more. I don't know what

1282
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: they were trying in week one, but let's get back

1283
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: to basics. Let's run the football with the two backs

1284
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: that we know are pretty good, if nothing more, and

1285
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: then let's see if off of that we can find

1286
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: a way to stretch the field. Now that you have

1287
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: a quarterback who you're probably more confident in being the guy,

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Speaker 2: I think you can handle O great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there is part of me that believes that you

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: need to bring something downfield to beat a team in

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01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: a defense like Notre Dames.

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and likewise, I think that works both ways. I

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01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: think Notre Dame wins at home. It's at night, but

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Speaker 2: I'm all over the points.

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving them, give me all of them.

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Speaker 2: I've got at twenty seven to twenty four, Notre Dame

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: wins A and M covers. I think it's tight.

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Speaker 1: Onward.

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Speaker 2: Here are some other games real quick, just so that

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Speaker 2: you can plan accordingly. A couple games at noon, a

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: couple in the afternoon, a couple at night, other big

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: ones earlier in the day. Were not doing picks here,

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 2: just rattling these off. Clemson at Georgia Tech very spicy.

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01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: That line is four. That's at noon, Wisconsin at Bama.

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01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: It's about three touchdown line in favor of Bama. Your

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01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks on the road at Northwestern Big Noon is

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01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: going to be there at the portable stadium. Are Gus

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: and Klatt going to be there at the portable stadium

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Speaker 2: calling this game?

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Speaker 1: I believe so? Yeah. More importantly I'm.

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Speaker 2: There, dance there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, four thirty.

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Speaker 2: We've got USF at Miami. As somebody pointed out on

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: social media, probably the biggest game c dub is ever covered.

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01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: They didn't know it when they got it, but USF

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: at Miami is now a very important game. Miami favored

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: by seventeen USC traveling across most of the country to

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01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: play Perdue Iowa State, traveling down to Arkansas State and

1319
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: school that can score points didn't last week against Arkansas

1320
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Speaker 2: No sir, and then Louisiana Missouri Missouri heavy favorite there

1321
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 2: letdown spot yeah, but they'll likely be fine. And then

1322
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: five big ones in the nightcap. Other than the two

1323
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: we mentioned, Vandy at South Carolina is crazy interesting to me.

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: Can't wait. That'll be incredible.

1325
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: Duke at Tulane the Darien Mensa Bowl. Tulane actually favored

1326
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: by three at home. That's interesting. Arkansas on the road

1327
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: at Ole Miss Ole Miss favor by nine. That's a

1328
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: tasty map.

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: Love it.

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01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: I bring up Virginia Tech not to dunk on Virginia Tech,

1331
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: but just to say that if they lose to ODU

1332
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: or if that game is super close, that's a real issue.

1333
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: They're only favored by seven and a half at home.

1334
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, od you again again the like former

1335
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: James Franklin Ricky Ronnie Pride game. Yep.

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Speaker 2: We've also got app State on the road at Southern

1337
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: miss which figures to be a tight matchup. There are

1338
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Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday games as well. NC State minus touchdown

1339
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: on the road at Wake on Thursday. And then we've

1340
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: got Colorado at Houston Houston a four point favorite on Friday,

1341
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: and then k State at Arizona. Care to guess the

1342
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: point spread in this one? Dan on Friday night?

1343
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: It's in Tucson. It's in Tucson, Arizona by a point

1344
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: and a half. That is a straight up pickum. My

1345
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: friend whoa Arizona quietly competent, which I've been called worse

1346
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: in my life again for the final time.

1347
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: Right in solid verbal at Gmail dot let us know

1348
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: your thoughts on these games. Leave a comment wherever you

1349
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: can give us your thoughts on all of this action.

1350
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 2: We will do a much more expansive preview on the

1351
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: Thursday episode when that rolls around, but for now, at

1352
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: least a little bit of taste as for what's to come.

1353
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:23,480
Speaker 1: Love a taste, don't forget to tune into the next episode.

1354
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: Where again we're going to go into much more detail

1355
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: about the overall sleep in week three, make sure you

1356
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: hit follow or subscribe. If you made it this far,

1357
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: make sure you check out for ballers dot com. Dan

1358
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: as I said, you get all sorts of bonus perks.

1359
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: Our game is up and running. I thought maybe I

1360
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: could talk through what the games are this week that

1361
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: people are going to have an opportunity to pick. We'll

1362
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: love that all of the ones that we just mentioned,

1363
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: all of them in addition Pit at West Virginia, in addition,

1364
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: Minnesota at cow Ooh. In addition some of these other

1365
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: matchups like the Vandy South Carolina, Louisiana, Missouri, Appstate, Southern miss.

1366
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: In total, you've got twelve games. Again, most of the

1367
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: other ones have been mentioned, but go and check them

1368
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: out at verbalers dot com. Sign up for any certified

1369
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,360
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Speaker 1: Damn.

1372
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: We will give away another fun prize to the winner,

1373
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: and of course if you come in the top five

1374
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: at the end of the season, you get to be

1375
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: on our board of trustees.

1376
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: No brainer, No brainer.

1377
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: Dan Rubstein, good episode today, Well great, keep healing up

1378
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: that voice, keep heeling, trying off. Maybe by the time

1379
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: Thursday rolls around will be perfect health.

1380
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: I'm targeting week seven here.

1381
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,879
Speaker 2: For that guy out there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

1382
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: for myself tie over here in Eastern PA. Thanks again

1383
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: for downloading, for listening, for supporting what we do. We'll

1384
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: catch you on Thursday times.

1385
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: Stay solid, peace,