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Speaker 1: We want to share a good friend's podcast with you

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Speaker 1: this week, Enjoy the Truth with Lisa Booth in the

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Speaker 1: Clay and Bock podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Well, folks, we've got a big guest today, Speaker Kevin

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Speaker 2: McCarthy is on the show. But before we get started,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play this epic exchange that he had

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Speaker 2: with an Associated Press reporter about the House's impeachment inquiry.

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Speaker 3: Listen, ben ia As that came out and said that

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Speaker 3: both Chairman Jordan and Colmer were not able to resent

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Speaker 3: anything that was an impeachable offense at this point, is

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Speaker 3: that an assessment that you share?

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Speaker 4: You know, we appeachment inquiry is not impeachment. So what

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Speaker 4: impeachment inquiry is to do is to get answers to questions.

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Speaker 4: Are you concerned about all the stuff that was just

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Speaker 4: recently learned? Do you have any concern? Have you asked

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Speaker 4: the White House any questions? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you agree that?

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Speaker 4: Do you believe the President lied to the American public

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Speaker 4: when he said he'd never talked to his son about

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Speaker 4: business deal?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So no, it's all right. You can't answer that.

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Speaker 4: Do you believe when they said the president went on

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Speaker 4: conference calls? Do you believe that happened. That's okay. Do

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Speaker 4: you believe the President went to Cafe Milano and had

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Speaker 4: dinner with the with the clients of Hunter Biden, who

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Speaker 4: believes he got those clients because he was selling the brand? Okay,

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Speaker 4: do you believe Hunter Biden when you sell the video

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Speaker 4: of him driving a Porsche, that he got one hundred

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Speaker 4: and forty three thousand dollars to buy that Porsche the

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Speaker 4: next day?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get into that exchange. Also, the

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Speaker 2: funding fight on Capitol Hill with the September thirtieth deadline

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Speaker 2: as well. Plus Joe Biden is weak, but Democrats might

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Speaker 2: convict Donald Trump heading into the twenty twenty four election,

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Speaker 2: So how do we win in that political environment? All

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Speaker 2: that and so much more with Speaker of the House

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy, stay with us. Speaker McCarthy, it's an honor

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Speaker 2: to have you on the show. You've got a few

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Speaker 2: things on your plate, to say the least, so we

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Speaker 2: appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it. Gave them the opportunity. Look, I

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Speaker 1: always love a challenge, and every week seems different, and

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Speaker 1: I've got a few challenges out there. But you know,

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Speaker 1: what this country is worth, the fight to make it better.

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Speaker 2: Well, you certainly signed up for the right job. If

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Speaker 2: you love a challenge. You're getting hit from both sides here.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's start with the impeachment inquiry. What's your

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Speaker 2: objective with it?

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Speaker 1: My objective with it is just to get to the truth,

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Speaker 1: to get answers. And you know, it's really interesting. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand what impeachment inquiry actually means.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I first took over Speaker and we've

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Speaker 1: learned all this new information, we never would have known

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Speaker 1: anything had Republicans not taken the majority. I mean, think

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Speaker 1: about what we've known so far. At the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: the President told us that he never even talked to

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Speaker 1: don't need that. If Wise needs to be a special counsel,

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Speaker 1: we'd back it all up? Well, lo and behold what

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Speaker 1: have we found out? As the world transgressed, we soon

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Speaker 1: learned that there was an informant to the FBI came

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Speaker 1: an alleged informant that said that Biden took a bribe,

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Speaker 1: We then found out now that twenty million dollars have

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Speaker 1: have then found out just this summer why we were

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Speaker 1: the President not only talk to him about it. Hunter

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Speaker 1: that at both dinners there was outcome. One he got

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Speaker 1: vice president got sixteen of the seventeen payments from Romania

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Speaker 1: from China. And now we've looked as well that the

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Speaker 1: vice president at the time used a false name in emails.

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Speaker 1: Why would you do that so you couldn't Foya, you

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Speaker 1: couldn't find these emails. And in these emails, there's fifty

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Speaker 1: four hundred of them. The archives control it. Obama gets

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Speaker 1: to make the decision whether we get to see it.

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Speaker 1: But in one of them, it literally has the President

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Speaker 1: about a phone call with the president of Ukraine. What

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Speaker 1: we learned from Hunter Biden's business partner who was on BISMA,

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure being mounted about the prosecutor in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: We know the President said back then he bragged about

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Speaker 1: withholding a billion dollars of American taxpayer money to get

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Speaker 1: the prosecut fired. It's all around the same time period.

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Speaker 1: We do know from the IRS agents that the government

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden under the most egregious portions of his tax provisions,

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Speaker 1: which IRS never allows to happen to any American. So

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Speaker 1: this is just in a nutshell. We also learned that

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Speaker 1: there is a White House staffer that worked at the

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Speaker 1: Vice president office that refers back to Hunter Biden's business

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Speaker 1: partner says the Vice President has signed off on the

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Speaker 1: Berezma talking points. Now, we have never gone after the

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Speaker 1: president's bank records, We've never gone after the credit card

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Speaker 1: records of all these shell companies. We never got after

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Speaker 1: to have to subpoena those and what impeachment inquiry does.

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Speaker 1: It empowers Congress meaning Republican Democrats, if they offer a

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Speaker 1: the documents that you need. So what we believe is

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Speaker 1: it's about getting answers. Now, if you were an elected

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Speaker 1: there's allegations. Wouldn't you want to clear that up if

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Speaker 1: someone said that about you? So we believe we should

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Speaker 1: get the information, put it before the American public.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, and I care, and you care, and

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Speaker 2: House Republicans care. Do you think voters care?

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Speaker 1: I believe voters, regardless of where you are philosophically, they

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Speaker 1: want to know that their elected officials are not selling power.

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Speaker 1: They don't want it done in a partisan way. And

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Speaker 1: I think we've been very clear about this, laying it out.

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Speaker 1: We've said the president you can bring forth any information

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Speaker 1: you want. But I've never seen a government or a

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Speaker 1: White House use agencies in manner that they have since Nixon.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look what they've done now after we uncovered

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Speaker 1: the irs whistleblowers who are not Republican, who came forward,

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Speaker 1: who have been just workers for the government, and they

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Speaker 1: have now told us that when they were going to

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Speaker 1: interview Hunter Biden, like they do most people, they went

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Speaker 1: to the FBI the night before. The FBI told Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 1: so he left when they went to get documents of

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Speaker 1: what he had stored. You've got a person in the

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Speaker 1: DOJ calls Hunter Biden's attorneys ahead of time to warn

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Speaker 1: the Inaugural Committee. You don't want to think that people

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Speaker 1: are getting some special treatment. When has the IRS investigated

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Speaker 1: somebody and let the statue of limitations run out? If

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Speaker 1: it gets close, they make you sign a document to

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: I hope you guys get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is I care. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: important how our government is potentially being abused or quid

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Speaker 2: pro quos, which it certainly looks like Joe Biden engaged in.

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Speaker 2: You know, I also wanted to get your take on

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Speaker 2: this spending fight right now on Capitol Hill with this

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Speaker 2: September thirtieth deadline approaching. I mean, we know the Department

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Speaker 2: of Justice is corrupt. You know, the border's not secure,

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Speaker 2: DHS is not doing its job. Why continue funding corrupt agencies?

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't want to. And the best way you

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Speaker 1: do to change all that is fundamentally do it through

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Speaker 1: passing legislation that controls that. We could put the Holman

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Speaker 1: Act in. We can fund things that are important. We

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Speaker 1: can cut other things out. But if you can't pass

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Speaker 1: the bills on the floor, you have a hard time

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Speaker 1: winning it in the argument overall. The other thing, Okay,

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Speaker 1: say you don't fund it and you go to a

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Speaker 1: government shutdown. You know what happens then the border is

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Speaker 1: wide open. Do you not want to fund the border agents?

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Speaker 1: The other problem that happens too in a government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: You know what still gets funded the prosecutions that are

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Speaker 1: We need to show them how we can show government

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Speaker 1: can govern that way. That's why we've been moving our

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Speaker 1: appropriation bills We've got to finish that job. I've looked

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Speaker 1: at shutdowns before. If you shut down, you really see

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Speaker 1: the power to the administration. Troops don't get paid, air

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Speaker 1: traffic controllers don't get paid. You become a problem. So

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Speaker 1: why don't you pass the bills and have the policy

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Speaker 1: fights to win it. I think we can win the fight.

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Speaker 1: Look at the mayor of New York about immigration. Their

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Speaker 1: done by this wide open border has made every community

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Speaker 1: we've got the policies on our side. We've passed HR two.

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Speaker 1: We need to take the fight there, not run away

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to ask you, there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of conversations, you know, I mean, I guess with

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Speaker 2: the funding, it's you know, if not now, when right?

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Speaker 2: You know, we all talk about these things, but you know,

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Speaker 2: now is the time to stand up with the direction

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Speaker 2: this country is going in because you know, we all

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Speaker 2: we all know that. You know, Joe Biden is weak,

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Speaker 2: you know he's destroyed the country. But you know Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is facing potentially ninety one you know, criminal charges.

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Speaker 2: So they may have a week hand, but they're trying

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Speaker 2: to criminally convict our potential nominee and send them to jail.

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Speaker 2: You know, how do we win in that environment? And

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Speaker 2: what impact does that have on the down ballot?

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Speaker 1: When you look at that that it goes to the

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Speaker 1: obstruction question we have itself. How do you use government

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Speaker 1: to go after the leading candidate to the opposition of you?

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Speaker 1: That's not America. You know what's interesting here is even

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Speaker 1: how do you do it in a presidential year? You

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Speaker 1: are just playing political games. And if you watch starting

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Speaker 1: the same time, you know it doesn't have merit. It's

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Speaker 1: political play. That part has got to stop. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody in America believes that's right.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with you, but they're going to do it,

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Speaker 2: and so how do we win? I worry that Republicans.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's all this conversation in Joe Biden's week,

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Speaker 2: Joe bid but that's operating like this election cycle is

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Speaker 2: going to be normal, and so, you know, how do

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Speaker 2: we win? You know, Speaker, if that happens.

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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing is I never sit back and

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Speaker 1: say I can't win. We've proven it time and again

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Speaker 1: in the last two election cycles. When Republicans lost other places,

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Speaker 1: we won in the House. The interesting thing, we have

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Speaker 1: a five seat majority. I've been leader for four years,

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Speaker 1: and those two election cycles with Nancy Pelosi being the Speaker,

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Speaker 1: I wont five more Republican seats in California. She lost

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Speaker 1: the majority in her home state. We won in New York.

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Speaker 1: You know what, You've got to fight back. They change

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Speaker 1: the election laws in California where everybody gets a ballot

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Speaker 1: and you can harvest it, so you can sit back

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, we're going to do the Democrats

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Speaker 1: have the majority, we're going to get and we're going

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Speaker 1: to fight back. If the rules are you can harvest,

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Speaker 1: then you harvest. You stand up for the truth, you

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Speaker 1: defend what is right, and you face them face on

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Speaker 1: and you tell the truth about what is happening. Look,

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Speaker 1: we know we have the House, but a five seat majority.

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Speaker 1: If we don't pass our appropriation bills, we're weaker in

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Speaker 1: the fight ahead. If we want to fight over the border,

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Speaker 1: if we want to fight over financial issues, we want

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Speaker 1: to fight them using the weaponization of government. That's why

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Speaker 1: I created a select committee to go directly after that.

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Speaker 1: Haven't had that before, a Select committee on China, so

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Speaker 1: we can confront with the future challenges we have. You

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Speaker 1: sit and you get in the trenches, and you make

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Speaker 1: the arguments, and you fight, and you will win. You

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Speaker 1: might not win it overnight. Just throwing a tantrum doesn't succeed.

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Speaker 1: We have to have a strategic plan that makes us succeed.

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Speaker 1: At the same time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you have your eyes open about it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on all of those issues. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of conversations about age limits for politicians.

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Speaker 2: You know, Joe Biden is eighty and clear mental decline,

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Speaker 2: Diane Feinstein ninety, health issues, Mitch mcconnolly eighty one, health issues.

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Speaker 2: You're only fifty eight, so you're good to go. You're

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Speaker 2: a good shape, Steger McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: But I got another decat or two before I could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your great shape. So you know, but is it

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Speaker 2: time for you know, those guys and gals to step

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Speaker 1: I think it depends on your capacity though, right I've

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Speaker 1: watched people who are younger who have challenges. One thing

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Speaker 1: I say, I think the country as a whole, we

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Speaker 1: leaders in the forties and the fifties, right, I think

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to do the job. And look,

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Speaker 1: I watched the difference between President Trump and President Biden.

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Speaker 1: Trump would only need four hours of sleep every night.

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Speaker 1: That guy was working morning, noon, and night. I've never

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Speaker 1: see anything like it. And to be fair, Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: Biden talks on the open stage that he needs to

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Speaker 1: take a nap. I don't see much happening in the process.

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Speaker 1: So it's the energy of what you're able to do.

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Speaker 1: I let the voters make that decision.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to commend you because after the impeachment and

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Speaker 2: Korey went out, the Biden administration instructed the media ramp

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Speaker 2: marching orders, right, and we saw that exchange between you

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Speaker 2: and the AP reporter. You did such a good job

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting if you watch the questions

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Speaker 1: the media asked me, based upon the questions they asked

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Speaker 1: then Speaker Pelosi, it's fundamentally different. And I ask back

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Speaker 1: media marching orders, right. And you had that a reporter,

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Speaker 1: she had just written a story before that we went

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Speaker 1: forward with impeachment inquiry with no evidence. I simply asked

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Speaker 1: could have gone on longer, and I think every single

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Speaker 1: I walk out of my building or my office are

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Speaker 1: to sit back and just have them ask one way.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to question them because what I find time

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Speaker 1: and again, even when it comes to legislation, the only

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Speaker 1: it refutes all their arguments before that. It proves they're

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Speaker 2: Well, it was perfectly done, so thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to have you back on Speaker. I know

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Speaker 2: obviously you've got a busy day life ahead of you,

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Speaker 2: so just want to thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to coming back many times.

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Speaker 2: That of course was Kevin McCarthy, Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 2: Honor to have him on the show. That was the

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Speaker 2: first time he's been on as a guest, so really

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Speaker 2: appreciate him taking the time. I appreciate you guys at

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Speaker 2: home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can

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Speaker 2: listen throughout the week. What do you think John Cassio,

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Speaker 2: my producer, for putting the show together. Until next time,