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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank take Valoti. We are the authority on R and

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<v Speaker 1>B ladies and gentleman. My name is Tank Valentine and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority

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<v Speaker 1>on all things R and B. H You ever been

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<v Speaker 1>to the trout?

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<v Speaker 3>I know I have. I know a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of people say they've been. A lot of people say

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<v Speaker 1>they know. But this one man orchestrated the soundtrack around

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<v Speaker 1>the whole damn thing. Yeah, we're gonna keep this short,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet and get right to this. Make some noise from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, yes, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? I gotta I gotta start I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta start off the pot like this. What you I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta start off like this. Jay said, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>get you need to get a while you're in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, let me get what say you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Let me pick his brain on some

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff I'm doing. Because I'm tapping into the trap,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tapping into it. I want to know one of

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<v Speaker 1>them know if I'm tapping correctly. You know, because there

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<v Speaker 1>is a tap, it's a specific tap that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to be tapping in order to be tapped in. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>to the studio and I'm sitting and I'm sitting with

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<v Speaker 1>a and I'm like, I want to play you a

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<v Speaker 1>song that I had that I just think is fire

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<v Speaker 1>Cray Shy out of the band who did the track

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<v Speaker 1>on that. I said, I think this is fire vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I tell them and them in a good

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<v Speaker 1>place with this. And I played it for him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they don't get you know, don't I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>too excited. You don't jump out the window, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Even if you like it, he's just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that go there go the go right there. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to play you.

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<v Speaker 4>Another version, a version of another version of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what's my guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? With rich Homie? My god, I said, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play you the rich Homie verse. I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little different. I don't I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he I don't know if he interrupted the vibe or

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<v Speaker 1>messed up what was going on. You know, I'm pitching

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<v Speaker 1>my hate. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm pretty selling. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pre selling my hate to just make sure he's on

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<v Speaker 1>my Yeah. Yeah. And I start playing it. And as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I start playing it, uh, because Rich home

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<v Speaker 1>is an intro.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this is a boss as.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like this. He gave me a look. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to my verse. Rich Homer came in. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>stop stopping right there, stop right there. That's it, right there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. What's the problem, I said, you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they know nothing. See, that's your problem. You're thinking, you

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<v Speaker 1>think you using your talented man. I said, what am

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<v Speaker 1>I using? You using your talented man? These niggas are

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<v Speaker 1>here just doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>They just they just doing it. They just they just

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<v Speaker 1>putting it out there. You overthinking it. That's it. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, and I had to go home, go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the hotel and think about how much I still

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know about this ship.

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<v Speaker 4>And the main thing he said to you, you're being

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<v Speaker 4>too talented and too talented, too talented, relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother. There, you're trying to sell this music to people

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't musical. They don't play piano.

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<v Speaker 4>Or sing the scale.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know, they don't know none of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>They know it feeling good.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all that matters. Stop overthinking the feeling. I'll never

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<v Speaker 4>overthink now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, since you said that, I have not been overthinking

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<v Speaker 1>anything he's supposed to. I barely do backgrounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Already talented, you're already too good. So what you're FeelA

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<v Speaker 2>overthink it?

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<v Speaker 1>Some over we are we are. I'm making twelve songs

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<v Speaker 1>in one.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go. That was me my problem, just trying

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<v Speaker 4>to make it perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to outdo me, looking in the mirror, singing to myself.

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<v Speaker 4>We call it chasing ghosts.

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<v Speaker 3>Chasing, chasing, ghost chasing.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that what it is, That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So brother, first of all, family member, you know, fellow music,

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<v Speaker 1>fellow church musicians. Yes, sir, thank you for coming here

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out on man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I had to come real family.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you're you're You're a guy. Your time is money.

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<v Speaker 4>We uh we know you appreciate you appreciate that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, as I spoke to the church musician

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<v Speaker 1>in you, I want to go back to the beginnings.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to where somebody identified that

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<v Speaker 1>you had a gift and you had talent. What day

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<v Speaker 1>was that, what age was that? What church was that?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I first started playing, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>nobody identified I had a gift. I was just in

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<v Speaker 2>church so much in Mississippi that you don't really got

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<v Speaker 2>a choice but to find something to do while you

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<v Speaker 2>If you at church four days a week, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>bro And as a kid, I got to find something

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I'm outside wrestling and doing whatever. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know what other time you in church. So naturally, if

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<v Speaker 2>you in church and you're trying to play some music,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna start off with the drums. I started, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to play the drum, but me and seven other

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<v Speaker 2>little kids want to play the drum, So now we

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<v Speaker 2>got to take turn playing song.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, like ro don't want to wait around and play.

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<v Speaker 2>One song, So I started go hanging out with the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's playing the organ. First guy was named Sheldon Harrington.

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<v Speaker 2>Steal my peoples to this day, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And matter of fact, he the guy that really showed

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<v Speaker 2>me how to play, but he gave me some bad habits.

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<v Speaker 2>We laugh about it all the time. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>transposed organ.

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<v Speaker 4>I know where you're going, boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything we play is either gonna be in c is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be in gen. We can't playing no black keys,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what. Yeah, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you just with with the keys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fingering.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you're prolific yeah in a key and the yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You stayed there, you stayed nowhere, You're uncomfortable everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a guy. I had a guy. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Chuky. He was He was hell of five musician, drums, guitar, keys,

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<v Speaker 1>every he do it all sing. But something about him

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<v Speaker 1>and B flat was extra terrestion.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't do nothing with him and be flat.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do nothing with him and be flatting. So I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the music director for for the choir he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing for, and I literally like when we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing transitions and stuf, I would have to wait for

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<v Speaker 1>him to transpose his keyboardark so he.

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<v Speaker 4>Could get to the yep, what every song we're.

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<v Speaker 1>In to be?

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<v Speaker 4>But when I say he gott.

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<v Speaker 3>Wearing the church out, that's a musician for you right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll wait ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah. So so you know, I learned a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>now so cold and see, I don't even it was

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy. I don't know if anybody watched me make

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<v Speaker 2>beats on YouTube or and every time I make a beat,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always in C.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always in C minor.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now you know, I can play in all the

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<v Speaker 2>other keys, but every time for some reason every time

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<v Speaker 2>I make a beat, I want to transpose it to C.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if I'm doing an E or F whatever, I

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<v Speaker 2>transposed it to where I'm in C because that's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's my sound. That's my comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it really in the or you just transformed from

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<v Speaker 1>the so that you can play.

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<v Speaker 2>Play and see so I can play And so you

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<v Speaker 2>know that if anybody that's any musicians that watched, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>they be like, man, why he always is always in

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<v Speaker 2>sea when he you know, when he's playing, But that's

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<v Speaker 2>when making beats. I just that's you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>What I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to go to your go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a go to and it's like a it's

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those producers that has a pacific sound,

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<v Speaker 2>so and I think that's what makes that sound.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just you know, yeah, you know, you get what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it ain't broke, you can't how many years

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>For man so Ice it was two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 2>so about twenty years in, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So still still listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Not broken now.

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<v Speaker 3>When I had to go to the next church, they

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<v Speaker 3>ain't got no trup.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how lady give the single solo and they

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<v Speaker 2>and see sharp or something. It's like, why I drown

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<v Speaker 2>them out? I turn that thing up so loud and

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<v Speaker 2>press see so loud. You're gonna you gonna go down'nna listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Even made me look bad. Yeah, get down here now

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<v Speaker 2>something now. Some of them singers, you know, they they

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<v Speaker 2>strong willed, so they like, no, you gotta come up

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<v Speaker 2>to see shark.

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<v Speaker 3>I turn that organ off and had like something wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're looking around.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on? Organ?

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<v Speaker 3>Roll in organ? But listen now when they're done, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>coming back and see I knew how to play it.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't know what I was doing back cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, don't like I ain't know how to play it.

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<v Speaker 4>You pick up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's turn that's come on man, that's that's real life, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate I hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't never like A. I ain't never like B

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<v Speaker 3>or E. Them three keys on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like A. I'll give you I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like E. I can, but I don't like either. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the two keys that just got but all

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<v Speaker 1>the black keys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all this that's my favorite now see sharp is

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite now, but see sharp a flat or B

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<v Speaker 2>flat too.

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<v Speaker 3>But before we ain't nothing but all white kids. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? Sharp became my favorite?

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<v Speaker 5>M h yeah, oh yeah killing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when, yeah, sharp became my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>And he used to use that same pattern all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, what is that we would be in

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<v Speaker 1>church during offering, m.

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<v Speaker 3>In church of offering time, man, playing down the people

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<v Speaker 3>that know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Don't keep the Lord on

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<v Speaker 1>the down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, you did it right, You did it right,

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<v Speaker 2>praising my pot, you did it right.

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<v Speaker 4>So you playing? So you're playing out of Mississippi. How

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<v Speaker 4>long were y'all in Mississippi?

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to elementary school in Mississippi. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>went to middle school half of like my first year

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<v Speaker 2>of middle school in Mississippi too. So we went from Grenada,

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi to Jackson, Mississippi, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was in the military, so I'm moving all

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I was born in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Branch Army.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I was. I was born in Frankfurt, Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just moving all my every three years

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm going Yeah, So you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>you was talking about earlier, like when people ask where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from, I say the Bay Area because after I

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<v Speaker 2>moved from Mississippi, we moved to San Diego, stayed there

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<v Speaker 2>for a little while, went you know, went to middle school,

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<v Speaker 2>first year of high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I moved to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you don't really start becoming who you

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<v Speaker 2>are to your real high school years.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why I was kind of formulating, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>who I was.

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<v Speaker 2>So when people asked me where I'm from, always say

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<v Speaker 2>to Bay That's where you know, that's where I got

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<v Speaker 2>my name in a game from.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was born in Frankfurt, frank for Germany. So

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<v Speaker 4>you do, citizen, Yeah, ship's great. Do you go back.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been back once, but it was you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a short trip. Me and my dad went out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but I ain't really just explored Germany like I need to.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a real live German out here, German Man, German.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, that's why my name is zatoven.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not all the years, I know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest, I didn't know either. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know to some years back, like dangn you know what

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<v Speaker 2>Beethoven is from Germany?

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<v Speaker 3>From Germany? So you know, I ain't put that together

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<v Speaker 3>until later on, to be honest with.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Sooven is your real.

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<v Speaker 2>Name, Nove my produced name, but I didn't really put

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<v Speaker 2>it together.

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<v Speaker 1>You gave yourself the name Zaytoven, not even consciously.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even thinking about Beethoven and where he's from.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great, that's great. They caught up years later.

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<v Speaker 1>That's but that's like design.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like right, So when you touch down

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<v Speaker 4>in the Bay, is it a culture shock for you

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<v Speaker 4>because you at this point you in high school the

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<v Speaker 4>first second year of high school, and obviously I'm from there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I understand. I understood early on that this place

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<v Speaker 4>is very different from anywhere else anywhere. It's literally an island,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, our islands, you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 4>it it's water that separates each city, and it really

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<v Speaker 4>becomes whatever is going on on that island ain't really

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<v Speaker 4>going on nowhere else. We are very insulated. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>his own thing, it's his own thing. So when you

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<v Speaker 4>get there fourteen fifteen years old. You already well versed

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<v Speaker 4>in music. You've been playing since you was know very young. Fella,

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<v Speaker 4>are y'all immersed in the church scene up in the

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<v Speaker 4>Bay when y'all first get there.

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<v Speaker 2>So we was forced to move to the to the band,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad had to move too, Yeah, Presidio. So now,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest shock for me was I was in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego probably was the prettiest city I ever lived in. Beautiful, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just the schools I went to. Everything was

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<v Speaker 2>just so high end and nice. I come to the Bay, Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on Prosidio. It's like three four houses. These are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's having these houses abandoned out here. Band,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's shut down out here. It's ugly, it's cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the school I go to is Galileo or high School,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a prison.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, like COOLi hot.

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<v Speaker 2>My mama wouldn't let me go there. Really, it's my

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood high school. It's literally the high school in my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the same high school as O. J.

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<v Speaker 4>Simps Yoh J.

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<v Speaker 3>Simpsons. I go to school.

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<v Speaker 2>They walking around with radios and everything like that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of school. What I did, it came to I'm used

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<v Speaker 2>to some high end nice man. They even brought me

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<v Speaker 2>to the hood, like the g House, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So that was the biggest shot for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But naturally, like anything else, man, once you get there,

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<v Speaker 2>you start making friends and start getting adapted to what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I couldn't leave it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I turned ghetto from San Francisco and I'm ghetto now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm like I'm when I say I'm ghetto,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I like hood. Like if I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the clubs, it's the hole in the wall, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's hood. If you listen to the music I make,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I like hood music, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>street music. I'm a church musician to this day, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, when it comes to you know, rap

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<v Speaker 2>music or whatever, it's like secondar music. I like hardcore

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<v Speaker 2>hood music, you know what I mean. So, and that

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<v Speaker 2>comes from San Francisco. San Francisco turned me out.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the part that that also isn't talked about

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<v Speaker 4>a lot about the city. And I mean, Tank knows

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<v Speaker 4>because he's been there with me so many times and

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<v Speaker 4>he's like, I didn't even know this existed in a

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<v Speaker 4>city like San Francisco. But the black community is so

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<v Speaker 4>small that we just have these pockets. And when you

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<v Speaker 4>get in that pocket, it's fully street. It's full, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's with everything you with, whatever you want is here

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<v Speaker 4>right there. So for you to go there and be

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<v Speaker 4>pushed into that, I get it. I get it because

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's no and people get it confused, like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's San Francisco, man, they show your bridge, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>they're showing you that so you'll come there for tourism.

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<v Speaker 4>They're pushing everything else under the rug. All a little

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<v Speaker 4>seven percent. At the time when we was there, our

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<v Speaker 4>seven percent community that's now probably three or four percent,

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<v Speaker 4>was so active, you know what I mean. You could

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<v Speaker 4>not get away from it. You couldn't get away from

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<v Speaker 4>it if you lived there, if you live there. I

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<v Speaker 4>fell in love with the base.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's also divine. It's more of what it was supposed.

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<v Speaker 3>To be, supposed to be like that in order for

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<v Speaker 3>you to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be who you are. And it's very musical. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's very musical, you know, you know, especially in the field.

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<v Speaker 4>More it's you know, it was known back in the

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<v Speaker 4>days as the Harlem of the West, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the neighborhood that we're from. It's like so

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<v Speaker 4>it jazz music was the blood of jazz music. The

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<v Speaker 4>spirit of jazz music is still in San Francisco to

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<v Speaker 4>this day. You know, yo, she's you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and in those type of places literally in our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>So the music is there too, but by the time

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<v Speaker 4>you got there, the music is totally different. It's mob music.

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<v Speaker 4>Mob music.

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<v Speaker 1>What is mob music?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just its own it's but it's got its own sound,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And you got to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the city to even know what that is or

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<v Speaker 2>even like the music. I don't think everywhere outside probably

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<v Speaker 2>like man, I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't even get it.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's the mob song that that would know that?

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<v Speaker 4>You would? You would have to you would have to

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<v Speaker 4>be there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's underground music.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean you was. You was at my

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<v Speaker 4>birthday party when you was getting my birthday party. Just

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<v Speaker 4>felt with saying Quinn on stage find out the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard way, dum don't don't don't that's my music, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's it's like deep based heavy, like it's haunting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>On stage, I said, I don't know what right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with it.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the dad show? What that is? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's like it's it's it's original. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I come from a regional thing. That's why I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I come from go go music. Yes, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's just that tribal thing. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the d m V to.

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<v Speaker 4>Really understand standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got understand understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you start making my music?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I had you ain't got no choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so go back. When is the first time you say,

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<v Speaker 1>okay a musical. I got all of these cool things happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should start making beats.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I started making beats.

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<v Speaker 2>So, first of all, the way I started making beasts

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<v Speaker 2>is my buddy JT. The bigger figure from the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like one of the biggest bosses you know

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco at the time. He's seen me playing

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<v Speaker 2>the keyboard at the football game and came to me like, hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get you in the studio. The man

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<v Speaker 2>took me to his mama house. What the studio was

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<v Speaker 2>that this is how you make the drum machine work

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<v Speaker 2>with the keyboard, This is how you add sounds. All right, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it. I bet I'll be back. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just at his house every day, just making beats. Put

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<v Speaker 2>it on cassette tape. Now, first, you know, I played,

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<v Speaker 2>I played the piano in church, so all my beats

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like bro, they too happy.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of beats is this? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know what I mean? They they piano driven,

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<v Speaker 2>They just happy, like you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really know to do. But you know, the more

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<v Speaker 2>I started making beats, and I remember him starting to

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<v Speaker 2>rap on one, then the other little guys from neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>started rapping on a couple of beats.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm feeling good, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when san Quinn wrapped on the beat first time,

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping on one of my beats, I was like, BRO made.

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<v Speaker 3>It because san Quinn was like little heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's what got me. And all this stuff is, like

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<v Speaker 2>you say, is regional music. And I feel I still

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<v Speaker 2>feel like my music is like regional even though it's

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<v Speaker 2>like more South driven. Now it's still more underground, like

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<v Speaker 2>regional time come to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I think. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Never you've never changed who you are, and this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Create that sound that is your sound in his in

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<v Speaker 1>his studio or was that something that just kind of evolved.

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<v Speaker 2>Evolved evolved into that, you know, because I went from

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<v Speaker 2>the baiting I came to Atlanta, So now.

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<v Speaker 4>You come here fresh after high school.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my parents moved, like my dairy tired and they

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Atlanta, like we're going to live somewhere that's

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<v Speaker 2>cheaper than San Francisco. I was so stuck on the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>I stayed. You know, I started making a little bees.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm selling bees for two hundred dollars. I'm playing at

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<v Speaker 2>the church where I've been at for the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years, all my friends here.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to leave, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until I start laying away studio equipment, laying

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<v Speaker 2>away a drum machine, laying away a keyboard.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to set up my own studio, but I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't got nowhere to set it up. I'm staying at

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<v Speaker 2>the passage house. I can't set up no studio over there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>You finished that guy at this point, I finished that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Marine College. I started going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Marion, you know, playing basketball. So I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>was that's the other part. Yeah, I was playing basket

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<v Speaker 2>point guard. Yeah, come on, yeah, yeah, who can't hoop

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<v Speaker 2>that dow music?

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<v Speaker 3>Who company.

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<v Speaker 1>To me?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you ain't doing if you ain't hooping it

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<v Speaker 2>and you ain't doing music, then.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>You called in some other ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, I went to Marine only for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while because I didn't realize, like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>want state championship that year Gal was nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course I'm going to play basketball after this

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<v Speaker 2>and Marin not knowing that when I go to Marine,

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<v Speaker 2>like bro okay, everybody's six foot three, and whoever they

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<v Speaker 2>point guard is, he just as fast and as you

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<v Speaker 2>know as I am. So I'm like third I'm third stream.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, man, I don't want to I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. Yeah, I'm making music. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>started realizing like the basketball stuff, like man, that come

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 2>on that's too far fit. So I just started, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doing the music, start getting my own studio equipment.

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<v Speaker 4>And for you though too, though this was a little

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<v Speaker 4>different for you. Like, so I'll give Tanks some context,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I went to the very basketball driven high school

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<v Speaker 4>at that at that point, ball Boy was we were

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<v Speaker 4>a powerhouse, but nobody went to school out of it,

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<v Speaker 4>Like nobody got scholarships. You know, niggas just kicking it in.

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<v Speaker 4>Who yeah, right. His school though, was at that at

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<v Speaker 4>that point was it was like they were like the

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<v Speaker 4>younger version of us. I was the baby on my

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.239
<v Speaker 4>team because I played varsity as a freshman, so I

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 4>was playing the whole time. But they were my age

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 4>at that time. So when they by the time they

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 4>got to their senior year, these niggas was called whoop niggas.

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 4>And the one thing they had, though was kids that

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 4>were going to go to school. So he was he

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<v Speaker 4>got to see that. He got to see like the

0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 4>Walls twins, you met Kenny and Lindy, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. One went to the NFL. One played very

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 4>high level at Boston College, you know what I'm saying.

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 4>And he got to see that up closer. You For me,

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 4>it was kind of like weld on, none of us

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<v Speaker 4>go to college. You know what I'm saying, I don't

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 4>care who recruited me for something happens. So that pushed me.

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Even though I had done music as a kid, it

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 4>pushed me away from basketball because I'm just like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>out of this high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't popping. It ain't nothing popping.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>And I used to call it the thirteenth grade junior college.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I ain't going to the thirteenth grade, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, the thirteenth grade.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm cool.

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So for you, I could see you being like, all right,

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go here and hoop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Just that's that's what guys, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my same teammates, I just wanted to stay with

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 4>They going these big schools to play football, play basketball.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.439
<v Speaker 3>So I get it, Yeah, I get it, But I

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 3>didn't really want to go like that.

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I was just going to like this, like the hoop,

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<v Speaker 2>just that you know, when you know, when you younger

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 2>and your parents are like, okay, what you're gonna do?

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 2>What you need to do you gotta pick something you're

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. You gotta give them some. So that's what

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do.

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 3>And they are already gone. They're already gone.

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.719
<v Speaker 2>So I'm living in San Francisco by my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not with none of my family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So even then, though, even.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I was doing music and I started working with

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of you know, barrier artists, I didn't look

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>at it as in, I'm gonna be a big time

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<v Speaker 2>producer or this this is how I'm gonna pay my

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 2>bills or none of that. I was just doing it

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<v Speaker 2>because I enjoyed doing it. I can hustle and make

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<v Speaker 2>a few dollars doing it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Your eyes are not set on music at all, not

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 4>at all in that league.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't thinking nothing like that.

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy, that's crazy.

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>So what prompts you to move to Atlanta? Of course

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>your parents are here, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my parents has a basement in their house. And

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't lay the wear all the studio equipment. I

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>got this, all the studio equipment. I got my computer, keyboard,

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>drum machine, but I ain't got nowhere to set it up.

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't afford to go live by myself nowhere in

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. So they were like, when you come, you know,

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>come on home, come down here. So I shipped all

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>my equipment down there and set up my studio in

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:48.719
<v Speaker 2>my parents' basement.

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>But I'm still doing it for fun.

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.719
<v Speaker 2>It ain't like I'm like, Okay, I'm trying to make

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>it in music. No, I'm just doing it because my

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>little brother can rap, my cousin can rap, Buddy up

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>the street can rap. It's gonna be fun to do it.

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy making beats and recording songs. I was rapping,

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So it's like we having

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 2>a ball doing this. But then I start going to

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you also cut hair, so yeah, so I feel he's I.

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Was known for cutting hair, you know, all the whole

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 3>basketball team, all the people at school.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm cutting hair. So and so I came to Atlanta.

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Hustling. That's all it is.

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm a church musician. Okay, I make I

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>make four hundred on the week doing this. I can

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>cut some hair, I can sell a few beats.

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Broke, I wasn't going to be broken, you know what

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Because I'm a hustler. So that's how I

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 3>looked at it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I came down here, got my license while I

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 2>was in Atlantic, you know, and then I started cutting

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>at the shop, got my barber license, cutting at the shop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I gotta keep I gotta do something, you know what

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean. So got the license. But then people start

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 2>knowing me for cutting hair. But then they know that

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>they got the studio of the Mama House too, you know,

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>so people start coming around.

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 3>That's what Gucci come out of. It comes from that.

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 3>It just comes from they.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the studio or he rapped, he rapped. Oh I

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 2>know this dude, he want to come over. And Gucci

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 2>was one of those guys that came over.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Is that how it kicked off.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Somebody just brought Gucci.

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>A dude named Dray Malik rest in peace. He had

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>passed not too long ago, but he the one brought

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Gucci over. And it's just because I'm a new kid

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>in the city and I got a studio. You know,

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you gotta everybody come on, everybody, everybody want to come

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>to the studio.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so good.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Everybody had their own studio.

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>No, ain't nobody had. Everybody had their own studio. Matter

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>of fact, I don't know nobody else. They had their

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 2>own studio in the house at that time. Yeah, so

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I man, my house flooded with people coming over, you know,

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and we just recording having a ball.

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 4>What are your parents saying?

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I told you my dad was in the military, right, Yeah.

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I remember Pops coming downstairs like, hey, bro, I don't

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>know what you think this he is. But I take

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>all this equipment and throw it on the ground outside

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>like this ain't no studio.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 3>And you got to think, nigga come to my house,

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>meaning like we.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my folks looking like you lost your mind what

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you got going on?

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>But it's like this.

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 2>But but you know, moms and dads are different. My

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>mom always had that thing where it's like she trying

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>to push me to do something, you know, Like I

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 2>used to play for her when she's singing at church.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 2>She was a choair director. So it's like she always,

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, pushed me to do something. She don't want

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to push me to go to college. You think you

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>want to play basketball, go try it, go do it.

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 2>So when I got people come to the studio, she

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of just to you know, kind of close the

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>dose on. My pops can't really hear, he don't know

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I got you know, she was kind of helping me

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>out in that in that sense, you know what I mean.

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So I will say that, like, you know, she kind

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>of helped me in that area.

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>So Gucci comes over.

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Gucci coming, Yeah, and what happened?

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>So Gucci comes like you know, here a street guy,

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and he got his little nephew.

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Gucci wrote a song for him.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>His name was Little Buddy, and he wrote a song

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>for him called little Buddy, like I need you to

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>make a beef for this, Like you know, I'm gonna

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>pay you to make a beef for my little nephew.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 3>And I'm so I made the beat.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Gucci go in there rapping him, trying to teach his

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>little nephew how to do it. I'm like, dang, like

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 2>he sound hard. You sound like bro, you sound dope,

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>like you need to do that artist. Yeah, you sound

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>like an artist.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't an artist, ship man.

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>This is a strip.

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't even get into who Gucci was back then. Yeah,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, but it turned into

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>for real zay all right, he come over the next day,

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>he do a song for itself. Before you know it,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>every day say it's something about seven thirty morning, say,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm una brush my teeth. I'm finna come over all right.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Bet So, we just making songs every day. Yeah, and

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I love making beats. And it's like, well, we just

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>recording every day for.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>You know it.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm gonna go perform on our songs at the

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>club tonight. We used to go to this club called

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>the Libra on Moorland Avenue for you know it. It's

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>like Gucci already got a name. He got a name

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>but for doing other stuff. But he got a real

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>name in the streets. So you know, people kind of

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 2>resonated to the music a little different. So he just

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>started coming like a hood hero with the music and

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm making the beats. And what may one thing I

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>can't pay Guccie for is the promotion that he gave

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>me your name. Man, This man talk about me like

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm the best thing since sliced bread.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Used to be embarrassing because we'll go to the I'm

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>talking We go to the studio with a whole bunch

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>of street guys. His first introduction and this is my

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>produce a too. He don't drink, he don't smoke, He

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>don't because he played organ at church.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like, bro, why you got to say all that?

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Why are you saying all that? You know what I mean?

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. I'm talking about were around.

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a it's a safety introduction. Yeah, it's a

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a that's a good guy, guy. Yeah, that's a

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>good guy.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 4>He was looking out, but he was no.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Fool with him and he with me.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he bragging.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know how you done been, you know how

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know how you you know you'd be like, man,

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I thank god, I ain't not happened to me. I've

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>been in a lot of places like Bro, I shouldn't

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>even been where I was at. You know, I was

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of places where it's like I'm not

0:30:58.120 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>even knowing what I'm into, you know what I mean,

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>innocently in places where I was like, Bronie, I shouldn't

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>even been over there.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everybody, including a guy who don't do nothing.

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I don't know. I'm just here because you

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 3>know we're doing I'm here yeah.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah that is, but muchI.

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 3>But me and Gucci start getting like this.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>So now it's when it comes to music, I'm we

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>on each other hip everywhere we go, every studio, every man,

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>you can be in the studio with Guji and Timmelin

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>come by and bring some beats for Gucci.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So you started being that thing he.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Started getting, you know, Gucci started getting like everybody want

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>to work with Gucci, Gucci being there. Listen, he can

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>be in there. Listen to the Neptune beats. Theyre in

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.479
<v Speaker 2>there playing with some beats. If I walk in the studio,

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>all right, yea, I don't want y'all be here now.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>So they pulled some beats up like that's how loyal,

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's how he was with you know, us doing music,

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>and it was a sound. I guess he just he

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>loved one thing about me and she is We never

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 2>told each other that song whack. Even if if I

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.239
<v Speaker 2>thought the song was whack, I ain't gonna tell him

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>what I feel.

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not going crazy.

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 4>That's hard.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Telling me the same thing. It's almost like I noticed beat,

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>ain't that hard? I'm going to kill this And it's like,

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I learned a lot in that because

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>some of those same songs that I felt like, bro,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that ain't it? When he go do a show, these

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>some of his biggest songs that he performed. Yeah, so

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like you can't say that, ain't it. So that's

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>why I started learning everything is everything.

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I learned that from many fresh man.

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Everything is it?

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Many fresh is just like I mean, I got a

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand beats, just put on it, Yo, that's it. I said,

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I need, I need, I need a smash.

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Smash smash it.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Bro, what you talking about?

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>What you're gonna say on it? Yeah?

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I need to get to fighting somebody in the studio.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about I need to hit I ain't get

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>out my studio.

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 4>That what you need to hit you?

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I stopped doing that, bro, his don't come like that.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>So what's your first Like, what's your first like moment

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of success, like where it's like.

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>So so icy was my first song that hit the

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>radio and in the clubs and everything?

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh so what do you say when he says my

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 4>chain hang down to my dick? He just went off

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 4>at the end, though, Man, it was like, what's playboy

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 4>name that sings on the song?

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Little Will lou Will like LII yeah, little Will going crazy?

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I like Little Will nigga.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 4>But he said that at the end. I said, Oh

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 4>my god, yeah, yeah, you got you got say what

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 4>year is that?

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 3>It's two thousand and four, Yeah, I know. I look,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like twenty two years old. That two thousand.

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember playing in a celebrity game, celebrity basketball game

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>with Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Roy Jones and a bunch of.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Uh not Alabama somewhere you know.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I'll be I'll.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Be one of them.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And that was my first time meeting him and like

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>going up and down the court with him.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I was like, this nigga right here is funny the money.

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't really know what.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 4>I knew.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I knew the song, yeah, but I really wasn't up

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>on what this nigga is, you know what I'm saying.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And he just seemed like a nice, funny dude, just

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>cracking and getting up and down the court. You don't

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>really hooking around. Turn Out he's really dangerous.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so how did y'all kick so icy off?

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I cult here at the barbershop. Gucci called me, uh,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, Jesus want to do a song with us, Like,

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>we need to go to the studio. He got the

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>studio time set up for this. I leave the barbershop,

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>go to my mama house. Meet Gucci over there. Make

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 2>the beat five minutes, you know, five ten minutes, because

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to hurt him. Get to the studio because

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Yong Jesus is the biggest thing going every time. But

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to do a song with Yeah, So we

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, you know, we get down to the studio

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and we just waiting in the lobby till his time

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to go in there to do, you know, to do

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the song with him.

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 3>And you can tell when we came in there.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 2>First of all, Gucci started bragging on me again so

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>much like he do he this and that, he all that.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, please stop doing that because I feel

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>like when you play the beats now, they're gonna be listening, like, bro,

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>he ain't all that the greatest thing I ever heard

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>one thing about my music Back then. I never felt

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 2>confident in my beats that much because I didn't know

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>how to mix, idn't know how to master. My stuff

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>just sounded just rough or it didn't sound you know

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 2>how you go to the studio somebody else music sound

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.399
<v Speaker 2>like that, don't sound like like it sposed.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>To be like a radio radio, right right?

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>My music sound like it ain't turned Can y'all turn

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 3>it up a little bit? Or I can't hear? Like

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Is that what it sounded like?

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like doing all that bragging, bron make me

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 3>look bad and strong enough. When he pulled up the

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 3>beat so icy, I just made it. Geezu was like, yeah, that's.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Cool if y'all want to do that, you know what

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean. You ain't got nothing else really feeling it,

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? So it's like, but Gucci

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>likeable pull.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Something else up this and that.

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 2>But I almost kind of got offended because I didn't

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>really know who jez was and what he meant. You know,

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I know he was popping, but it's like, bro, I

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>felt like, hold on, I thought he said he want

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to do a song with us, with us, how you

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell us what we want to do? So, long

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>story short, we were going back. We went back to

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the so icy beat because I'm like, man, let's just

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>do the song we came to do. I didn't pull

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that back up, and.

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 4>Then Jesu, I bet that's what y'all want to do

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 4>with Everything is already.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 2>On it, no nothing on it, nothing, It's just but

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>but Gucci sanging the idea to him. Now, Gucci can't sing,

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>but he's saying, all these girls excited. Now you gotta

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>think at the time, Jezu they it's BMF. They super street,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>everything is super street. This sounded like ky and candidate

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>to him. Right now, Bro, what y'all you talking about?

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>All these girls excited and all that. But you gotta think,

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Gucci in the mind frame of you seeing BMF, you're

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>seeing all this jury, all this money icy is like, Bro,

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>that we're trying to, you know, make almost like a

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>club type record. So he sang the hook, but then

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 2>little will happen to be in the studio. So he

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>sung the hook for us. So now once he sing it,

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>now it sounds like we might have got something. You

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>got a singer, and then he got a singer in there,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 2>so now you got back then, won't nobody using auto tune.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.919
<v Speaker 2>It was the first time somebody used We used auto

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>tune on this very little bit. Now t Pain Sprung

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 2>came out around the same time where he used a

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of auto tune, but we had used auto tune before.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 4>He even used it.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, just a fun fact, you know what I mean?

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>We put auto tune on it, and it's like, okay,

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 2>now the hook on it. It where you see fifteen

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>people in the studio with they know pad out like, bro,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm finna put.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 3>A verse on this.

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to get a verse on this, Okay.

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>After JZ put his verse on it first, Yeah, Gucci

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 2>was about to go in there and say a verse

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>he already had and I'm like, no, bro, you gotta

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 2>come brand new. So we went in the other room

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>while he writing his verse, but everybody in the studio.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Booth from Cash Money was there. That's how he got

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>on the song. He was there as well, but it's,

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, just mislating people. Everybody got their pin out like, oh.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm finna get on it.

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Coach K was there, and Coach K was the first

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>one saying like, hey, bro, y'all got to hit this

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 2>a hit right off the rip? Off the rip, You're like, bro,

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 2>y'all got to hit and before you know it, Bro,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like Jez was so popping, but he didn't have

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.959
<v Speaker 2>an identify like a hit song. He had a whole

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of hard music, but he didn't have no song

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 2>that sounded like that. So now that the song is

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>out on mixtape and started to circle circulating the street.

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Every time GZ do a show, it's almost like, do

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 2>so icy what one is? They want to hear that song?

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I remember what JZ and P Diddy was. I forgot

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 2>the name of the club at the time, but they

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 2>was on the on the bar and Jesus was performing

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and they were doing all the songs that everybody know.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>But you can tell everybody like man, me and Gucci

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the crowd, you know what I mean. Gucci like,

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and they was like, but they want to hear so icy.

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 2>So they were like, man, call Gucci up here. Gucci like,

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 2>they give me your chain because he got the chain already,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 2>so we both just got our necklace. Give me your

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>change so I can look extra icy. It wasn't really

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 2>all that icy, but you know back then and he

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>got on stage and rocked it. That's when we know

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 2>its like that's the song. That's when everybody like, Okay,

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>we want that song.

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 4>We need that song. So as you say that, I

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 4>get a phone call that has nothing to do with me.

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 4>One of my big homies from the Bag, Guy arrest

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 4>his soul.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>She kiss Stuart.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 4>He calls me he said, Playboy, I need a favor.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 4>What's up? Yeah, he like, and when he would get

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 4>me those calls, I knew. I knew it was like

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 4>it was something Yeah, it was something big and he

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 4>was he the biggest executive in the industry at this point.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>He cracking.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 4>He in my opinion, Shaki was the first superstar and

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 4>on her like he really he was an artist.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>He was that guy.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 4>And you know, he had did the j Z deal

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 4>and he said, it's this record. He said, most niggas

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know that this kid is from the Bay. I

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 4>just found out this kid is from the Bay. He

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 4>out in Atlanta's When he said that, I said, oh,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 4>he talking about Za and the crazy shit is you

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 4>hadn't had no hit records yet. But I just knew

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 4>that because I'm like, only nigga he could possibly be

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 4>talking about, like he didn't did his research and now

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 4>he didn't figure it out. Oh Ja from San Francisco,

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Jayson Philmo. I just heard. He told it's actually from

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 4>out there calling Jay. So I'm like, what you need, like,

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 4>nigg he got this record. It's so icy, I said,

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I just heard that. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, they cracking.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 4>It's like they cracking. I'm like, all right, what what's

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 4>the What's he said, I need it? I said, what

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Jeez on the record? Like no, no, no, no, no,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:18.240
<v Speaker 4>I need it. But that's they record from my understanding.

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.760
<v Speaker 4>He's like, yeah, but we need that as as Jeez's

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 4>first single. We're trying to launch it off of that record.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 4>He said, you know, can you get in contact with A?

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 4>I said, I can call him. I said, I don't

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 4>give out nobody phone number. Anybody that know me. I

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 4>don't give out nobody phone number. I or I got

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 4>to call you first and be like yo, such such

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 4>looking for whatever it is. I don't care who it is,

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 4>not giving out nobody's phone number. So I called A.

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, bruh, they looking for you. I'm like, I'm like,

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 4>they're looking for you. Like, yeah, nah, you're talking about

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 4>the record. I said, yeah, Bro, I said, My message

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 4>was say your number and whatever that number is, they

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 4>got it for you a sap. He said, hey, Bro,

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 4>tell them that ain't they record?

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 4>I ain't about to play with that man song.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 3>My hand was tired right now what I'm supposed to do?

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 3>But I was I was hoping in praying that it

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 3>can go on geez O man, they.

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Can figure it out. Which that does happen at times.

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It does happen at times. But I think Gucci was

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of looking at it as in jez was so

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 2>big at the time. If this goes on his project,

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna I ain't got no place in it. I

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 2>ain't got no place no more. It's like I'm just

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>somebody on the song and then my time is over it.

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 2>So now we need this to be this Gucci man song.

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 3>And which was right?

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>He needed that, you know what I mean? So, and

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I was with it like it wasn't no number. I

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even I didn't care about the money like that

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>back then, you know, you know what I mean. It

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>wasn't no number that I can say that this is

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna make me do. That wasn't no So and Gucci

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.919
<v Speaker 2>is my guy, Like I say, he called me seven

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 2>thirty in the morning. Every day we go to the club,

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>yeah exactly, We go to the clinging with our clothes,

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 2>We go to the fleet market and spray get our

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 2>clothes spray painted with the songs that he feel have performed.

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 2>And that night, that's how close we know were so

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>if I'm gonna give music, come.

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 4>On, man, because then it's your song too.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 2>It goes they went to me, but you know, if

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 2>it's going to Jesus, gonna be bigger because he got

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.879
<v Speaker 2>the bigger budget. He got everything going on right now.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>But that don't mean that much to me matter. If

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest with you, I was. I was

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 2>so locked in with Guccia, I didn't care if I

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 2>produce for anybody else, you know what I mean. If

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get no bigger than that. At the time,

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, I'm straight. As long as I'm doing

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 2>his music, then I'm straight. I don't care no about

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>nobody else music.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 3>That's how you know.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 2>That's how it really was, because didn't nobody else get

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 2>my music anyway? To him, But it's the hardest music

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 2>in the world. Somebody else, they hear, like, bro, what's

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 2>that what I'm I supposed to do with that? So

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm not appreciated here. Let me go back

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 2>over here where he loved the music.

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was like that for a long time.

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 2>You know how hard it is for me to produce

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 2>for somebody else because I'm known as Gucci Man producer

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like, ok can you make that time?

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Don't nobody, don't nobody rock with me, cause it's like,

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>oh you, Gucci Man is like the outlaw, you know,

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 2>far as the industry is like, oh you with Gucci,

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>you over there, everybody else over here, But okay, you

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:27.439
<v Speaker 2>and Gucci, y'all do y'all.

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 3>You know whoever with Gucci, y'all.

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Do y'all stuff over there, and hopefully hopefully y'all make

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>it big, you know what I mean?

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>But I was okay with that.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>So once all the smoke clears and it's Gucci Man's

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>record and it hits the radio, do you do you

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>feel a shift and a change because now you got

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to hit record on the radio.

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't you know what I felt like. I

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>felt like, I want to say, I got lucky almost.

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I felt like this ain't gonna happen again. So let

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>me cherish the moment, moment, the money I make off of.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Let me kind of tuck it, put it away, you know.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Being nothing crazy to do.

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I spent all the money, but.

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>You know how my thought pattern was I about the studio.

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I spent all my money on studio equipment. Yeah, Okay,

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I saw my house looking like patchwork down Once you

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.720
<v Speaker 2>got all this stuff down like a real studio.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Now you're excited.

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Now your sound sounds different.

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 2>But I was excited about just still just doing music

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>at the house. I wouldn't right now, I want to

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 2>make another big record. I don't even think about none

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>of that, you know what I mean. And you know

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 2>how this music stuff, you can be a one hit wonder.

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Your time could come and go just like that. So

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 2>watching my mom and daddy get up and go to

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 2>work every day, I didn't put all my eggs in

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 2>or I hadn't made it in music. This ain't enough

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 2>money to make it in music, really, like you know

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. You know, maybe when it's all saying done,

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>about a hundred grand or something like that. Now that's

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>more than what our parents ever seen, what I ever seen.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 2>But this ain't enough to say.

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't live and die with this. So I'm at

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 3>the barbershop. I'm still cutting here at the bar shop

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>every day, sun up to sun down.

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 4>So Icey's burning the streets.

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>It's the big number one song on the radio. But

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm still at the barbershop. I'm at the barbershop,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, with the radio on, like ooh, I'm

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>my song number one today?

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, we number one on the radio, right, you

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean?

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm happy about that, and I'm happy about cutting here,

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm happy about playing at church, and I'm.

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Happy about still selling beers. You know what I mean.

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 3>That's it, you know, I feel good. I'm straight.

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>So if it don't go no further than this, I

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 2>was happy. I had that moment, you know what I mean.

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Now Gucci get the murder case, he go to jail.

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>We don't know how long he even be gone. Now

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 2>don't got Gucci man no more. All I had is

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 2>the songs that we didn't been recording this and that

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't got another artist that's you know, that's as

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 2>big as him, and that's locked in.

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 3>That's locked in.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 2>So I did his second album called Hard to Kill.

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 2>So it was all zayto all the music I had recorded,

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 4>That was a hard album right there.

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>It's hard, you.

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, That's what the song pilled I

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>might be all that, you know, freaky girl. All this

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff come off with that album and it's like so

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like you know, but still I'm still looking at

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it in like, Okay, that's dope. I ain't make no

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>crazy money and nothing like that.

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you something else fun. I had another

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 4>phone call to you, and I don't even know if

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 4>you know this. You know, I'm the first R and

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 4>B singer that Gucci did a record with.

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 3>See, I didn't know that.

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I call you.

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.879
<v Speaker 4>You're like, you want Gucci on the record. Yeah, because

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.320
<v Speaker 4>he had put out Freaky Girl, and I had a

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:46.399
<v Speaker 4>song called Freaky Freak Freak Freaky And you're like, oh yeah,

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonn connect you with dam called dare. I paid

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Gucci man five thousand. Imagine that a Gucci man Verse

0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 4>for five five nigga, that's a hundred years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I called you exact I need him. Yeah, I got you.

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Send the record. He shouts you out on the record.

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what everything off beat, that's what that's that's Gucci,

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:16.919
<v Speaker 2>the whole versus off beat.

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, all right, and this is back when I

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 4>was in my I'm on my engineer days and I'm like,

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 4>I gotta shift this.

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>We shift.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 4>We shifted, Nigga, and to this day, it's still people

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 4>that be like that record you and Gucci Nigga back

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 4>the people.

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 3>That Manuc is so funny when it comes to that. No,

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 3>he I know that, but just my own beat. I

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 3>just I know that Gucci right there.

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, come on, I got the first Gucci man

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 4>R B F.

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing?

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 4>He had never been a R record for that. It's

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 4>just like, yeah, he's just building records for his for.

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>To talk about it.

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 4>I've never had a chance to say, but thank you.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm right with it.

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Don't matter who if they made the phone call shot out,

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>it's everything they It's like, bro, you ain't really got

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to shot me out on it, but okay.

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:21.399
<v Speaker 4>You put this album out?

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.359
<v Speaker 4>How did y'all do it? Did he put it out?

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Even know I put it out? He was in jail,

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:28.879
<v Speaker 3>so he was with Big Cat Records at the time.

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 2>So they coming to me like say, we need I

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 2>need your executive produce album cause we ain't got no

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 2>music on Gucci.

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 3>He do everything at your house, so we need some

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 3>songs to put out.

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>So I got all the songs and put it out

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's when I start thinking about, Okay, I gotta

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>start building a zay Tooven name because I don't know

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 2>if Gucci, you know, what's what's gonna happen. So now

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.399
<v Speaker 2>I put it hard to Kill. After that, I put

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a mixtape out called Ier Tech. I said, put my

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 2>face on there, put Gucci face, you know, because now

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm starting to try to brand myself just in case,

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, Gucci is not gonna be around or.

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, this and that.

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 2>So that's when I start. That's when the name start,

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of getting hot in the streets, real tough.

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Now every dope nigga in the world, I need to

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 2>go see ze Toe. And it's because Gucci saying, say

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 2>is this? They say they That's all he's saying.

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 3>So he to the world.

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Now he just off somebody and everybody know about it,

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>so his credibility goes through the roof.

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jesez the hottest thing smoking.

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But Guji just he on TV for you know, for

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Poppins Onbody like so you know, you know how music streets.

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like it looked like it looked like and and

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there were artists before Gucci, you know what

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that were actually who they were, Yeah, who

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>they were just niggas. He's living.

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 3>He's living, and you he's he's actually living it.

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And he's on powers rotation on the on the radio,

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:07.959
<v Speaker 1>and so to to every to every dope boy who's

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>ever had being on the radio ambitions, you're the soundtrack.

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly where it was, where it was.

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 4>This don't happen. No, I don't, especially not us being

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 4>able to get in this room together and talk about

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 4>this and really be like, man, you did that, Oh

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 4>you did that? You know what I'm saying, Like, it

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 4>don't happen. Bro, Man, listen, you don't tell people all

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 4>the time.

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 3>It's that's that's really like, that's God's favor.

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like on me because I didn't, like I said,

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get into this to get where I'm at,

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of things that came to me, I

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know where they came from.

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like, Bro, I didn't I didn't expect that. I

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that was coming.

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where they came from, but it land

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:57.959
<v Speaker 2>right in my left. All these artists were talking about

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 2>that was not even big artists. They end up coming

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 2>into the zatoven world and then they blow up, so

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>they just kept me going for so long, and I

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 2>remember a propheted saying this to me in church. She

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>passed a few years ago. Laate the name by the

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 2>name of Diane Palmer. You know you in church, so

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you know somebody call you up and prophesied to you

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 2>many times. She was. She said to me, your sound

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 2>is going to be across the nations. And I thought, she,

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you know I'm playing organ at church. I'm thinking she,

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, I ain't even that good playing I'm okay,

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not. You know how, it's musicians out here

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that are playing up on the table like man. It's like, man,

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I ain't nowhere near good as him. And I tell

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 2>people that even with producing, I'm not as good as

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. I feel like I got some

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 2>unique but I don't. I'm not as good as people

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 2>playing the keyboard and I think I'm super great, but

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not all that good playing like that. And I

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:51.320
<v Speaker 2>ain't all that good making beats. But the combination is

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 2>what makes you know. Yeah, So she was telling me, like,

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 2>your sound is going to be great over the nations.

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know she was talking about trap music. You

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 2>get what I'm saying.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know all these years this music been going on.

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 2>It's almost stemmed from the trap music I was making

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:09.280
<v Speaker 2>in my mama's basement.

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 3>So that's what she was talking about. So you know

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, that's always look at it like that.

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Bro, Like God just bring different situations and put people

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 2>in my life to make me continue to keep going

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and keep getting bigger.

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he said favorite, that's a real thing. That's

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 1>straight up watsch My guy, Keith Battle pass the Keith Battle.

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>He did my wedding. But I've been knowing him since

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, and I was just watching. I

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was scrolling past the videos and he said, see favor,

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was just kept scrolling. I said, let me

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.839
<v Speaker 1>go back to that, and he just started talking about

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:43.720
<v Speaker 1>favor and how favor. You know. One thing about favor

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:47.279
<v Speaker 1>is that it's always very particular. It's not all y'all,

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it's just you. Yeah, yeah, Favor is you, and favor

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>has has a public demeanor. You know, even even if

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the favor is given to you in private, it's going.

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 4>To have a public felt mm hmmm.

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Or for the most part, it's just it's in public

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and you can see the favor on somebody You're like,

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You're like, how yeh like you as you talk about this,

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>as you continue to break artists and just breaks, it's like,

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>how how are you? How you doing that different?

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's what it is.

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 2>That that's you know, and that's where the cretit go,

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>brocause you know, it ain't none of them super specially.

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 2>It ain't that I work extra harder than somebody else

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 2>or none of that.

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 4>So that's what it is. I got a question too, though,

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 4>as a producer. As a you might not look at

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 4>it this way, but as a super producer, absolutely, who

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 4>would you do a versus against a versus.

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 2>M that you respect that you like, you know what,

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 2>me and this producer will go crazy going back and

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:02.839
<v Speaker 2>forth with these records. That's hard for me to say

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 2>because like I got so many producer buddies, and all

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 2>of them is I didn't watch producers come from They'll

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 2>come and hang out at my mama basement. Now they's

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 2>some of the biggest producers in the world right now.

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 2>But I think because of my time stretches, you know,

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of it's hard because like when I

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 2>came in the game, it was shoddy.

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Red nitty drama boy, you know what I mean.

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 2>It was like those like my guys, I'm kind of

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 2>balancing against a little bit, you know what I mean.

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 2>But then later on became like Mike will Sonny Digital

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and you know, guys like that. Then came Metro, London

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Ato a Mafia, you know what I mean. So I

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of been there before. Like I remember, I sit

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 2>on the couch and you know with say Metro and

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>he be like, man, I got in it because Zay

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 2>got you know, I started making beats watching Zay Or

0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 2>or Mike Willer say, man, they used to let me

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 2>come to the house, and so it's like I was

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of before them, you know what I mean. Now

0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 2>these guys are the biggest in the in the world now,

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it's like I don't know another producer.

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's on the same time stretch that

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm on twenty years. So it's different, you know, I

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I respect that, not to say that my

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 2>music is better than theirs.

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 3>I got bigger, but it's just it's, yeah, so much

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 3>time and it's a lot of time.

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Who has that much time in music?

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, and at the end of the day too.

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 4>I just appreciate the guys that you said too though,

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 4>just the biggest to respect. You just paid to them,

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:33.240
<v Speaker 4>the biggest.

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, I get it. I'm gonna

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 2>tell what I love about them. They always have reached

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.800
<v Speaker 2>back and say, Zay, don't working on this project.

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, I need you to do something. I want

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 3>you to do something on this with me, you know

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So now these guys I used to let come to

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.719
<v Speaker 2>my mama house, to my mama basement. You know, I'm

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 2>not knowing this is gonna be a super mega producer.

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know these guys are gonna be big as

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 2>they are. So you know, it's a blessing to see that.

0:56:59.760 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 6>All.

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Let's connect, bro.

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Man, if you knew how many people came out of

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>my mama's basement, it's amazing.

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Fain That's it.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, all right, all right?

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>He going to the piano.

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean because we you know, we got the piano

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 4>man here, huh.

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 3>You know we ought to be doing you know, we

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 3>gotta do for the podcast.

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 1>We gotta.

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 3>We gotta do it.

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Behind the scenes of us creating a song from scratch.

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it some special edition, some special.

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 4>Come on, man, you family, whenever you want to pull

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 4>up to the podcast, that's up to you.

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So you you've heard a lot of music in your time.

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>You've made a lot of music in your time.

0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Some of it.

0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's your favorite. We want to know your.

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Top f your top five, Yeah, talk five, your.

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 5>Top five on be single.

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Already be so.

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>We wanna know Saint sat Tony.

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Drop me up.

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Top Crazy.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 2>That's the guest singer that come from the other church.

0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.919
<v Speaker 2>You know, she coming and trying to show out. That's

0:58:59.000 --> 0:58:59.959
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what daddy.

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Come on, you know you're going to do a solo.

0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 3>You're doing Wade?

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know the church looking at you like, yeah,

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you know that's how I go too. You can't tell

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 2>him nothing.

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Your top R and B singers, top five, you get

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 1>five of them, let's go five.

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I gotta go with Ara Kelly.

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that hurt nobody.

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You know that.

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't care the R N, R and B.

0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 3>You gotta go.

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go R for sure. I gotta go Usher.

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Joe to see guy. Yeah, you know what

0:59:54.920 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with Joe. Yeah, yeah, favorites Joe, that boy,

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>come for my favorite cold. I'm throwing tanking now, not

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:09.120
<v Speaker 2>for sure, and I'm gonna tell you why, Bro, I

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:11.600
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even up on your music or none of that.

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:15.840
<v Speaker 2>My wife came and said and I forgot who she

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.680
<v Speaker 2>said that turned her onto it. But she came and

1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 2>played me, Now you already had I think I deserve.

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I probably had slowly already, which I didn't really pay

1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:27.200
<v Speaker 2>that much attention to.

1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I went back to it after I heard I'm so

1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 3>close on what album that was?

1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Number that was one man.

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, hold on this, nigga, he is going crazy,

1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>All the sounds in that song are from the triton.

1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:50.439
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's what maybe probably what drew me to it, all.

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Drums everything for real. That I was like, they brought

1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a triton into the to the studio and I was like,

1:00:57.520 --> 1:01:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't even use no trying, and I just started

1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:02.440
<v Speaker 1>going through the sound that's might that might be what

1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it was. And I had my I was like, you know,

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just grab the sounds out of here and

1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>just and just work with it. That's the man that costs.

1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:11.760
<v Speaker 2>That song caught my ear and then I started listening

1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 2>to that project and then, uh, I'm the reason.

1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Why I started sticking out to it.

1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:20.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's like then I started listening like, hold on, bro,

1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 2>my wife got me listening to you, and it's like,

1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:25.120
<v Speaker 2>now to turn into a tank fan.

1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:26.480
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Your top five R and B song.

1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:39.360
<v Speaker 4>Tricky, that's tricky. You make songs, brother, make so songs.

1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:43.280
<v Speaker 3>So I like by cut close. I don't know if

1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:48.520
<v Speaker 3>y'all remember that one usher? Can you get with it?

1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:50.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

1:01:50.280 --> 1:01:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you know, here's.

1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Gems almost matter of fact. All these songs might be

1:01:57.200 --> 1:02:00.280
<v Speaker 2>nasty songs are hunching song because like.

1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 3>With Joe Church, Yeah, with Joe it's.

1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:12.160
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I can do it right.

1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's called I can Do It right. The

1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:19.880
<v Speaker 2>song is everything. Album see, y'all might not know. I

1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:21.560
<v Speaker 2>might be getting you out on know what's going on.

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Y'all might be too young for all.

1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Y'all?

1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Might you know what I mean? Song?

1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:37.600
<v Speaker 2>What I've noticed though, they like album cuts, album cuts nout.

1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:40.480
<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, if you listen to my music, it's

1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I never felt like I made music like you know, classics.

1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:48.440
<v Speaker 3>We ain't trying to make no hit, trying to make

1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:50.080
<v Speaker 3>something that's like forever.

1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I go the strip for you

1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:57.760
<v Speaker 2>are Kelly and then Tank I'm so close, Like these

1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.040
<v Speaker 2>are songs that when I'm out with my wife and

1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:02.720
<v Speaker 2>we hang it out, these songs automatically gonna play allist

1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:04.680
<v Speaker 2>every time we go out, and it's like, there's so

1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:06.680
<v Speaker 2>many other songs, why you keep playing these songs?

1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:08.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's get to your vult Tron.

1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Brother.

1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:12.520
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make a Vultron Zaytoven's Vultron, the most powerful

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:15.200
<v Speaker 1>R and B artist you can make. We want to

1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:17.600
<v Speaker 1>know who you're gonna get the vocal from. For that artist,

1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:21.120
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get the performance style from. Who You're gonna

1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:23.760
<v Speaker 1>get the the styling from. Who's gonna put the fur on?

1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Who?

1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's gonna get the heart of the artists from?

1:03:28.760 --> 1:03:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And since you are a super producer, who's going to

1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:34.600
<v Speaker 1>produce style? Let's start with the vocal. Who you getting

1:03:34.600 --> 1:03:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the vocal from?

1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:43.240
<v Speaker 4>I might go Usher, Universal Vocal Universe, do Anything, sing Anything?

1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:44.720
<v Speaker 4>I go Usher.

1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Who're getting the performance style from?

1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Might go Chris Brown? You know he's gonna put on

1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the show. Yeah you got every time every might do

1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:55.600
<v Speaker 3>a backflip.

1:03:56.320 --> 1:04:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Might he can do backflip? Okay, styling, I go Trey songs.

1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Trey got a little swag on him, so I go, yeah, yeah,

1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:10.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Braids trailed, the braids, trades

1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:12.360
<v Speaker 2>more more street mode.

1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I go that way.

1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, yeah, I go that way. Passion of the artist,

1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:18.760
<v Speaker 4>the heart of the artists.

1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:26.920
<v Speaker 3>You gotta go like fantasic and yeah yeah, shoes early early,

1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:31.360
<v Speaker 3>yeah it now right now, yeah yeah.

1:04:32.640 --> 1:04:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And who's gonna produce for this artist?

1:04:35.480 --> 1:04:36.240
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm gonna go with.

1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Think I'm gonna go with yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah yeah. What else? We got Chief? We got Chief.

1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:53.360
<v Speaker 4>That's what's up. Taking the church.

1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I ain't saying no, nat saying no.

1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:04.240
<v Speaker 5>What you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't saying no.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. You can't cousin church though, But go ahead, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 7>gotta work on working progress.

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<v Speaker 4>God, I know your heart.

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<v Speaker 3>You know your heart. I know your heart.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got we got this game. It's called I

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<v Speaker 4>ain't saying no names. You tell us a story, funny

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<v Speaker 4>er fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? Your travels

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<v Speaker 4>in this thing and throughout the trap, throughout the industry,

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<v Speaker 4>your travels Atoven travels throughout this whole thing. The only

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<v Speaker 4>rule to the game. You can't say no names. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you're meant to some places and he's seen

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<v Speaker 4>some things. Hell, I just can't say no names.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say no name.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut on.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me think. Okay, well, why you think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>introduce it to the people, Because this is Atven, Mister

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<v Speaker 4>so Icy himself make the traps say hey, m m hm,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's gonna give you your papers. I like, I

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<v Speaker 4>like that is you rolling?

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<v Speaker 1>Might be a.

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<v Speaker 4>Say Toven, I ain't saying no names. Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had an artist, well known artist, asked me

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<v Speaker 2>to come out do a show with him. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know what part of TEXTA wheel was in somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't really know. You know, they want me to

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<v Speaker 4>bring the band.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got me, I got the keys, got a

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<v Speaker 2>got my drummer, and my two guitar tars.

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<v Speaker 3>So we go do the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn what he gonna know? I'm talking about him too.

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<v Speaker 2>We go do the show, We go back to the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes off because he going to another city before

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<v Speaker 2>we get there. Well we at ain't no funk. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't ain't no service, you know, with the hotel we're at.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was supposed to have the transportation set up

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<v Speaker 2>for us to get to the airport, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everything, so we can fly to the next city. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>the man ain't booked no flights. He ain't booked no

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<v Speaker 2>ooh to come get us. So we stuck out in

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<v Speaker 2>this place in Texas. We don't know, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the middle of nowhere. Phone ain't got no

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<v Speaker 2>service or nothing. Now I got my people with me.

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<v Speaker 2>They looking at me cause it's like okay, they we followed,

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<v Speaker 2>they came for me, and you can't get the man

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone onto about threefold day.

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<v Speaker 4>You stranded.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like stranded, like what kind of what what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on here?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, and this was like this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of early. This was back in the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day where it's like I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't even think we was using Uber like

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, like it was now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was Uber trying to find a cab.

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<v Speaker 3>We were trying to have Yeah, we had either find

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<v Speaker 3>a cab with the car, like a shuttle or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like a car service.

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<v Speaker 3>But bro, we we ain't had nobody number. We couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he wouldn't ask his phone, so we ain't

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<v Speaker 3>had nobody else to call. So we just stuck out here.

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<v Speaker 2>We stayed out there like three days, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then went back to Atlanta. And it's like, bro, what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know when you finally get to it, like, bro, happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, you know all this dude dope drugs. They be

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<v Speaker 3>on something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I was tripping, broke my bad, this and that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that made me stop really touring, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, playing being a musician for an artist on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the road because of because.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, you know what I mean, left you and

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<v Speaker 1>just left y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, we're talking about Texas where it's like, ain't nothing

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<v Speaker 2>around like the room. I don't know what why, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why we was in these rooms because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't stay in the same room we staying in. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the band, y'all stay over here. We staying in the

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<v Speaker 2>Royal suite over here, right. But me, now, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Zaytoven, I'm not the type of guy that's gonna say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>band members, y'all stay there, I'm gonna go stay with them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna stay with y'all. Y'all here for me, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what i mean. So and it was just like dang, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>but bro levels here, you know, for for three days.

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<v Speaker 2>And it ain't ain't even reach out, ain't saying answer

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<v Speaker 2>the phone or none of that. So it left a

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<v Speaker 2>bad taste in everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Maund three four days.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the rooms paid for at least, but it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>nothing paid for. My god, that's what makes it so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, now, okay, so I'm responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, how'd y'all get back?

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<v Speaker 3>So that the.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy at the at the front desk, he was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>what y'all need? You know, I'm gonna help y'all get

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<v Speaker 2>the way y'all going, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So we stayed. We stayed that, We stayed for a

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<v Speaker 3>while because we're like, no, they're gonna get us, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna get us out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>They just took a few days. And it just for

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<v Speaker 2>me that made me be like, bro, I'm I'm I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say I'm bigger than that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, right, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't worth it.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't for me, it ain't.

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<v Speaker 3>This ain't worth it, and the money don't be worth

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<v Speaker 3>it when it comes to doing that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was doing it out of love for it and this

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<v Speaker 2>and that and the guy you know, the musicians now

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<v Speaker 2>they geeked up about it. To them, it's like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>we all over the world we're doing this and that

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<v Speaker 2>we're playing behind this person, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So because that's some people's passion.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I don't even know how they do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>got my drumming out at the church find of going

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<v Speaker 2>to it. I'm like, bro, no, how you finna do that?

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<v Speaker 7>Boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I show won't do that no more.

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<v Speaker 1>This depends on who you who you're working for them, Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody can the artists can make the experience either really

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<v Speaker 1>great or really fucked up for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think me being.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I am in the game already, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>it was like going backwards for me in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, bro, I'm not used to this type

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<v Speaker 2>of treatment and I'm not using to this type of money.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was doing it because it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I love to do it. I want to do on experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, Bro's that don't make no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it at least got to be like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>five star comfortable for you, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I but I'm the type of guy if

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<v Speaker 2>it can't be that for who all coming with me,

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<v Speaker 2>then I can't lead him out like that And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't go hang No, I ain't that type of person.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather hang with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we got to stay, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 3>motel is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Disrespect of the days. Yes they had a motel where

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<v Speaker 1>you outside, Yeah, ain't no hallway.

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<v Speaker 4>That's tricky. That's tricky. Business is tricky, Bro, tricky business.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, say.

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<v Speaker 1>You are him? Brother man, you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm glad I came.

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<v Speaker 7>Bro.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate having you, man, Thank you, Bro. We uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just outside of being family man, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just appreciate you. Everything you've done, man and the

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<v Speaker 1>way you've done it. You know what I'm saying. Your

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<v Speaker 1>name is your name is great in these streets. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, amazing. I've never heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody couldn't tell me nothing sadeways about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Better what I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I like when somebody else can say everybody gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing about me.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That main solid, That main right there. So we appreciate you, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I love money and this is there ever your money

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<v Speaker 1>podcast here, throw you on all things already be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been mister Frank. All the artists himself still

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<v Speaker 1>he's a man of the track. R and B Money.

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