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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thank take Valoti. We are the authority on R and

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Speaker 1: B ladies and gentleman. My name is Tank Valentine and

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Speaker 1: this is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority

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Speaker 1: on all things R and B. H You ever been

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Speaker 1: to the trout?

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Speaker 3: I know I have. I know a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people say they've been. A lot of people say

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Speaker 1: they know. But this one man orchestrated the soundtrack around

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Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. Yeah, we're gonna keep this short,

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Speaker 1: sweet and get right to this. Make some noise from.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I gotta I gotta start I

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Speaker 1: gotta start off the pot like this. What you I

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Speaker 1: gotta start off like this. Jay said, you need to

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Speaker 1: get you need to get a while you're in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, let me get what say you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me pick his brain on some

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Speaker 1: of this stuff I'm doing. Because I'm tapping into the trap,

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Speaker 1: I'm tapping into it. I want to know one of

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Speaker 1: them know if I'm tapping correctly. You know, because there

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Speaker 1: is a tap, it's a specific tap that they have

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Speaker 1: to be tapping in order to be tapped in. Here's

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Speaker 1: to the studio and I'm sitting and I'm sitting with

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Speaker 1: a and I'm like, I want to play you a

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Speaker 1: song that I had that I just think is fire

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Speaker 1: Cray Shy out of the band who did the track

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Speaker 1: on that. I said, I think this is fire vibe.

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Speaker 1: I think I tell them and them in a good

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Speaker 1: place with this. And I played it for him. You know,

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Speaker 1: they they don't get you know, don't I don't get

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Speaker 1: too excited. You don't jump out the window, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Even if you like it, he's just yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah that go there go the go right there. I said,

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to play you.

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Speaker 4: Another version, a version of another version of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what's my guy?

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Speaker 1: Uh? With rich Homie? My god, I said, I want

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Speaker 1: to play you the rich Homie verse. I said, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a little different. I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he I don't know if he interrupted the vibe or

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Speaker 1: messed up what was going on. You know, I'm pitching

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Speaker 1: my hate. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm pretty selling. I'm

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Speaker 1: pre selling my hate to just make sure he's on

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Speaker 1: my Yeah. Yeah. And I start playing it. And as

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Speaker 1: soon as I start playing it, uh, because Rich home

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Speaker 1: is an intro.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, this is a boss as.

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Speaker 1: You know, like this. He gave me a look. I

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Speaker 1: got to my verse. Rich Homer came in. He said,

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Speaker 1: stop stopping right there, stop right there. That's it, right there,

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Speaker 1: that's it. What's the problem, I said, you don't think

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Speaker 1: they know nothing. See, that's your problem. You're thinking, you

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Speaker 1: think you using your talented man. I said, what am

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Speaker 1: I using? You using your talented man? These niggas are

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Speaker 1: here just doing it.

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Speaker 3: You gotta feel good.

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Speaker 1: They just they just doing it. They just they just

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Speaker 1: putting it out there. You overthinking it. That's it. I said,

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Speaker 1: that's it, and I had to go home, go back

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Speaker 1: didn't know about this ship.

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Speaker 4: And the main thing he said to you, you're being

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Speaker 4: too talented and too talented, too talented, relaxed.

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Speaker 1: Brother. There, you're trying to sell this music to people

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Speaker 1: who aren't musical. They don't play piano.

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Speaker 4: Or sing the scale.

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Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't know none of that.

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Speaker 4: Good.

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Speaker 1: They know it feeling good.

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Speaker 4: That's all that matters. Stop overthinking the feeling. I'll never

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Speaker 4: overthink now.

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Speaker 1: Ever, since you said that, I have not been overthinking

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Speaker 1: anything he's supposed to. I barely do backgrounds.

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Speaker 2: Already talented, you're already too good. So what you're FeelA

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Speaker 2: overthink it?

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Speaker 1: Some over we are we are. I'm making twelve songs

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Speaker 4: There you go. That was me my problem, just trying

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Speaker 1: Trying to outdo me, looking in the mirror, singing to myself.

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Speaker 4: We call it chasing ghosts.

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Speaker 3: Chasing, chasing, ghost chasing.

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Speaker 4: I like that what it is, That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: So brother, first of all, family member, you know, fellow music,

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Speaker 1: fellow church musicians. Yes, sir, thank you for coming here

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Speaker 3: You know I had to come real family.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're you're You're a guy. Your time is money.

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Speaker 4: We uh we know you appreciate you appreciate that for sure.

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Speaker 1: But you know, as I spoke to the church musician

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Speaker 1: in you, I want to go back to the beginnings.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to where somebody identified that

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Speaker 1: you had a gift and you had talent. What day

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Speaker 1: was that, what age was that? What church was that?

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Speaker 2: So when I first started playing, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: a choice but to find something to do while you

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Speaker 2: If you at church four days a week, it's like

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Speaker 2: bro And as a kid, I got to find something

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Speaker 2: to do. I'm outside wrestling and doing whatever. But you

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Speaker 2: know what other time you in church. So naturally, if

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Speaker 2: you're gonna start off with the drums. I started, I

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Speaker 2: want to play the drum, but me and seven other

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Speaker 2: little kids want to play the drum, So now we

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Speaker 2: got to take turn playing song.

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Speaker 3: Now, like ro don't want to wait around and play.

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Speaker 2: One song, So I started go hanging out with the

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Speaker 2: guy that's playing the organ. First guy was named Sheldon Harrington.

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Speaker 2: Steal my peoples to this day, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And matter of fact, he the guy that really showed

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Speaker 2: We laugh about it all the time. He had a

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Speaker 4: I know where you're going, boy.

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Speaker 2: Everything we play is either gonna be in c is

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Speaker 2: gonna be in gen. We can't playing no black keys,

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Speaker 2: no matter what. Yeah, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Because you just with with the keys.

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Speaker 3: It's fingering.

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Speaker 1: Once you're prolific yeah in a key and the yeah.

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Speaker 3: You stayed there, you stayed nowhere, You're uncomfortable everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I had a guy. I had a guy. His name

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Speaker 1: is Chuky. He was He was hell of five musician, drums, guitar, keys,

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Speaker 4: You can't do nothing with him and be flat.

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Speaker 1: Can't do nothing with him and be flatting. So I was.

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Speaker 1: I was the music director for for the choir he

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Speaker 1: doing transitions and stuf, I would have to wait for

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Speaker 1: him to transpose his keyboardark so he.

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Speaker 4: Could get to the yep, what every song we're.

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Speaker 1: In to be?

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Speaker 4: But when I say he gott.

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Speaker 3: Wearing the church out, that's a musician for you right there.

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Speaker 1: But we'll wait ahead.

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Speaker 2: Nah. So so you know, I learned a lot of

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Speaker 2: now so cold and see, I don't even it was

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Speaker 2: so crazy. I don't know if anybody watched me make

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Speaker 2: I'm always in C.

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Speaker 3: I'm always in C minor.

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Speaker 2: Now now you know, I can play in all the

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Speaker 2: other keys, but every time for some reason every time

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Speaker 2: I make a beat, I want to transpose it to C.

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Speaker 2: Even if I'm doing an E or F whatever, I

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Speaker 2: transposed it to where I'm in C because that's just like,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's my sound. That's my comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: Is it really in the or you just transformed from

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Speaker 1: the so that you can play.

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Speaker 2: Play and see so I can play And so you

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Speaker 2: know that if anybody that's any musicians that watched, I know,

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Speaker 2: they be like, man, why he always is always in

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Speaker 2: sea when he you know, when he's playing, But that's

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Speaker 2: when making beats. I just that's you know, that's.

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Speaker 4: What I do.

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Speaker 1: You got to go to your go to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a go to and it's like a it's

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of those producers that has a pacific sound,

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Speaker 2: so and I think that's what makes that sound.

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, yeah, you know, you get what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It's like that.

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Speaker 1: So if it ain't broke, you can't how many years

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Speaker 1: you've been doing this?

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Speaker 2: For man so Ice it was two thousand and four,

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Speaker 2: so about twenty years in, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So still still listen.

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Speaker 4: Not broken now.

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Speaker 3: When I had to go to the next church, they

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Speaker 3: ain't got no trup.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know how lady give the single solo and they

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Speaker 2: and see sharp or something. It's like, why I drown

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Speaker 2: them out? I turn that thing up so loud and

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Speaker 2: press see so loud. You're gonna you gonna go down'nna listen.

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Speaker 2: Even made me look bad. Yeah, get down here now

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Speaker 2: something now. Some of them singers, you know, they they

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Speaker 2: strong willed, so they like, no, you gotta come up

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Speaker 3: I turn that organ off and had like something wrong.

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Speaker 3: You know you're looking around.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Organ?

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Speaker 3: Roll in organ? But listen now when they're done, I'm

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Speaker 3: coming back and see I knew how to play it.

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Speaker 4: I ain't know what I was doing back cooking.

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Speaker 3: Now, don't like I ain't know how to play it.

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Speaker 4: You pick up.

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Speaker 3: That's turn that's come on man, that's that's real life, right.

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Speaker 1: I hate I hate it.

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Speaker 3: I ain't never like A. I ain't never like B

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Speaker 3: or E. Them three keys on.

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Speaker 1: I don't like A. I'll give you I don't like

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Speaker 1: I don't like E. I can, but I don't like either. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two keys that just got but all

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Speaker 1: the black keys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all this that's my favorite now see sharp is

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Speaker 2: my favorite now, but see sharp a flat or B

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Speaker 2: flat too.

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Speaker 3: But before we ain't nothing but all white kids. You

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Speaker 3: can't go wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know what? Sharp became my favorite?

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Speaker 5: M h yeah, oh yeah killing.

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Speaker 1: That's when, yeah, sharp became my favorite.

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Speaker 3: And he used to use that same pattern all the time.

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Speaker 1: And I said, what is that we would be in

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Speaker 1: church during offering, m.

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Speaker 3: In church of offering time, man, playing down the people

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Speaker 3: that know.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Don't keep the Lord on

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Speaker 1: the down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you did it right, You did it right,

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Speaker 2: praising my pot, you did it right.

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Speaker 4: So you playing? So you're playing out of Mississippi. How

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Speaker 4: long were y'all in Mississippi?

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Speaker 2: So I went to elementary school in Mississippi. Then I

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Speaker 2: went to middle school half of like my first year

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Speaker 4: So I was born in Frankfurt, frank for Germany. So

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, like COOLi hot.

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Speaker 2: My mama wouldn't let me go there. Really, it's my

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Speaker 3: Now, I couldn't leave it.

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Speaker 2: Like I turned ghetto from San Francisco and I'm ghetto now.

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Speaker 4: But that's the part that that also isn't talked about

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Speaker 1: But that's also divine. It's more of what it was supposed.

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Speaker 3: To be, supposed to be like that in order for

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Speaker 4: Be who you are. And it's very musical. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: So the music is there too, but by the time

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Speaker 4: Mob music.

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Speaker 2: It's just its own it's but it's got its own sound,

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Speaker 4: Don't even get it.

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Speaker 3: They don't get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the mob song that that would know that?

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Speaker 3: It's underground music.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean you was. You was at my

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Speaker 2: Hard way, dum don't don't don't that's my music, okay,

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Speaker 1: On stage, I said, I don't know what right, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm with it.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: What is the dad show? What that is? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like it's it's it's original. Because

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Speaker 1: I come from a regional thing. That's why I get it.

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Speaker 1: I come from go go music. Yes, you know what

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Speaker 4: Really understand standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got understand understanding.

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Speaker 1: Did you start making my music?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I had you ain't got no choice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so go back. When is the first time you say,

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should start making beats.

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Speaker 3: Man, I started making beats.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, the way I started making beasts

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Speaker 2: He was like one of the biggest bosses you know

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Speaker 2: I need to get you in the studio. The man

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Speaker 2: took me to his mama house. What the studio was

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Speaker 2: that this is how you make the drum machine work

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Speaker 2: with the keyboard, This is how you add sounds. All right, cool,

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Speaker 2: you got it. I bet I'll be back. And I'm

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Speaker 2: it on cassette tape. Now, first, you know, I played,

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Speaker 2: I played the piano in church, so all my beats

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Speaker 3: What kind of beats is this? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean? They they piano driven,

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Speaker 2: They just happy, like you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 3: So I'm feeling good, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Then when san Quinn wrapped on the beat first time,

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Speaker 3: It because san Quinn was like little heroes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So you know

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Speaker 2: that's what got me. And all this stuff is, like

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Speaker 2: you say, is regional music. And I feel I still

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Speaker 2: feel like my music is like regional even though it's

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Speaker 2: regional time come to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I think. That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Never you've never changed who you are, and this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: It's the same.

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Speaker 1: Create that sound that is your sound in his in

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Speaker 2: Evolved evolved into that, you know, because I went from

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Speaker 4: You come here fresh after high school.

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Speaker 2: No, my parents moved, like my dairy tired and they

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Speaker 2: moved to Atlanta, like we're going to live somewhere that's

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Speaker 2: I stayed. You know, I started making a little bees.

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Speaker 2: I'm selling bees for two hundred dollars. I'm playing at

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Speaker 3: I don't want to leave, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't until I start laying away studio equipment, laying

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I want to set up my own studio, but I

442
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: ain't got nowhere to set it up. I'm staying at

443
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: the passage house. I can't set up no studio over there.

444
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

445
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 4: You finished that guy at this point, I finished that guy.

446
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: I went to Marine College. I started going to.

447
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: Marion, you know, playing basketball. So I was like, I

448
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: was that's the other part. Yeah, I was playing basket

449
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: point guard. Yeah, come on, yeah, yeah, who can't hoop

450
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: that dow music?

451
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: Who company.

452
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 1: To me?

453
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: It's it's like that.

454
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: But if you ain't doing if you ain't hooping it

455
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: and you ain't doing music, then.

456
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 3: You know what you're doing.

457
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 4: You called in some other ship.

458
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

459
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I went to Marine only for a

460
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: little while because I didn't realize, like, you know, we

461
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: want state championship that year Gal was nineteen ninety eight,

462
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: and of course I'm going to play basketball after this

463
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: and Marin not knowing that when I go to Marine,

464
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: like bro okay, everybody's six foot three, and whoever they

465
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: point guard is, he just as fast and as you

466
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: know as I am. So I'm like third I'm third stream.

467
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: Now.

468
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: It's like, man, I don't want to I don't want

469
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 2: to do this. Yeah, I'm making music. And I just

470
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: started realizing like the basketball stuff, like man, that come

471
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: on that's too far fit. So I just started, you know,

472
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: doing the music, start getting my own studio equipment.

473
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: And for you though too, though this was a little

474
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: different for you. Like, so I'll give Tanks some context,

475
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 4: Like I went to the very basketball driven high school

476
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 4: at that at that point, ball Boy was we were

477
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: a powerhouse, but nobody went to school out of it,

478
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 4: Like nobody got scholarships. You know, niggas just kicking it in.

479
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 4: Who yeah, right. His school though, was at that at

480
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: that point was it was like they were like the

481
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: younger version of us. I was the baby on my

482
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,239
Speaker 4: team because I played varsity as a freshman, so I

483
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: was playing the whole time. But they were my age

484
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: at that time. So when they by the time they

485
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 4: got to their senior year, these niggas was called whoop niggas.

486
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: And the one thing they had, though was kids that

487
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 4: were going to go to school. So he was he

488
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: got to see that. He got to see like the

489
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: Walls twins, you met Kenny and Lindy, you know what

490
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 4: I mean. One went to the NFL. One played very

491
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 4: high level at Boston College, you know what I'm saying.

492
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: And he got to see that up closer. You For me,

493
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: it was kind of like weld on, none of us

494
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 4: go to college. You know what I'm saying, I don't

495
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: care who recruited me for something happens. So that pushed me.

496
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: Even though I had done music as a kid, it

497
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: pushed me away from basketball because I'm just like, man,

498
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: out of this high school.

499
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: Ain't popping. It ain't nothing popping.

500
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: And I didn't.

501
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 4: And I used to call it the thirteenth grade junior college.

502
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, I ain't going to the thirteenth grade, right.

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the thirteenth grade.

504
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm cool.

505
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm cool.

506
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: So for you, I could see you being like, all right,

507
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go here and hoop.

508
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

509
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Just that's that's what guys, you know what I mean.

510
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: Like my same teammates, I just wanted to stay with

511
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 4: They going these big schools to play football, play basketball.

512
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 3: So I get it, Yeah, I get it, But I

513
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 3: didn't really want to go like that.

514
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: I was just going to like this, like the hoop,

515
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: just that you know, when you know, when you younger

516
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: and your parents are like, okay, what you're gonna do?

517
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: What you need to do you gotta pick something you're

518
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: gonna do. You gotta give them some. So that's what

519
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do.

520
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: And they are already gone. They're already gone.

521
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 2: So I'm living in San Francisco by my you know,

522
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: not with none of my family.

523
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

524
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: So even then, though, even.

525
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Though I was doing music and I started working with

526
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, barrier artists, I didn't look

527
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: at it as in, I'm gonna be a big time

528
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: producer or this this is how I'm gonna pay my

529
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: bills or none of that. I was just doing it

530
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: because I enjoyed doing it. I can hustle and make

531
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: a few dollars doing it, you know what I mean.

532
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 4: Your eyes are not set on music at all, not

533
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: at all in that league.

534
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: I ain't thinking nothing like that.

535
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's crazy.

536
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: So what prompts you to move to Atlanta? Of course

537
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: your parents are here, But.

538
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 2: Well, my parents has a basement in their house. And

539
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: I didn't lay the wear all the studio equipment. I

540
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: got this, all the studio equipment. I got my computer, keyboard,

541
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: drum machine, but I ain't got nowhere to set it up.

542
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: I can't afford to go live by myself nowhere in

543
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: San Francisco. So they were like, when you come, you know,

544
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: come on home, come down here. So I shipped all

545
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: my equipment down there and set up my studio in

546
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 2: my parents' basement.

547
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: But I'm still doing it for fun.

548
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 2: It ain't like I'm like, Okay, I'm trying to make

549
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: it in music. No, I'm just doing it because my

550
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: little brother can rap, my cousin can rap, Buddy up

551
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: the street can rap. It's gonna be fun to do it.

552
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: I enjoy making beats and recording songs. I was rapping,

553
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like we having

554
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: a ball doing this. But then I start going to

555
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: you also cut hair, so yeah, so I feel he's I.

556
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: Was known for cutting hair, you know, all the whole

557
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: basketball team, all the people at school.

558
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm cutting hair. So and so I came to Atlanta.

559
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Hustling. That's all it is.

560
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: It's like I'm a church musician. Okay, I make I

561
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: make four hundred on the week doing this. I can

562
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: cut some hair, I can sell a few beats.

563
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: Broke, I wasn't going to be broken, you know what

564
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Because I'm a hustler. So that's how I

565
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: looked at it.

566
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: So I came down here, got my license while I

567
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: was in Atlantic, you know, and then I started cutting

568
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: at the shop, got my barber license, cutting at the shop.

569
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

570
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: I gotta keep I gotta do something, you know what

571
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean. So got the license. But then people start

572
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: knowing me for cutting hair. But then they know that

573
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: they got the studio of the Mama House too, you know,

574
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: so people start coming around.

575
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: That's what Gucci come out of. It comes from that.

576
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: It just comes from they.

577
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: Got the studio or he rapped, he rapped. Oh I

578
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: know this dude, he want to come over. And Gucci

579
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: was one of those guys that came over.

580
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: Is that how it kicked off.

581
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 4: Somebody just brought Gucci.

582
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: A dude named Dray Malik rest in peace. He had

583
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: passed not too long ago, but he the one brought

584
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: Gucci over. And it's just because I'm a new kid

585
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: in the city and I got a studio. You know,

586
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: you gotta everybody come on, everybody, everybody want to come

587
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: to the studio.

588
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so good.

589
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: Everybody had their own studio.

590
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: No, ain't nobody had. Everybody had their own studio. Matter

591
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: of fact, I don't know nobody else. They had their

592
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: own studio in the house at that time. Yeah, so

593
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: I man, my house flooded with people coming over, you know,

594
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: and we just recording having a ball.

595
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: What are your parents saying?

596
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: I told you my dad was in the military, right, Yeah.

597
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: I remember Pops coming downstairs like, hey, bro, I don't

598
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: know what you think this he is. But I take

599
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: all this equipment and throw it on the ground outside

600
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: like this ain't no studio.

601
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: And you got to think, nigga come to my house,

602
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: meaning like we.

603
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my folks looking like you lost your mind what

604
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: you got going on?

605
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: But it's like this.

606
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: But but you know, moms and dads are different. My

607
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: mom always had that thing where it's like she trying

608
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: to push me to do something, you know, Like I

609
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: used to play for her when she's singing at church.

610
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: She was a choair director. So it's like she always,

611
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, pushed me to do something. She don't want

612
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: to push me to go to college. You think you

613
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: want to play basketball, go try it, go do it.

614
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: So when I got people come to the studio, she

615
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: kind of just to you know, kind of close the

616
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: dose on. My pops can't really hear, he don't know

617
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I got you know, she was kind of helping me

618
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: out in that in that sense, you know what I mean.

619
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: So I will say that, like, you know, she kind

620
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: of helped me in that area.

621
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: So Gucci comes over.

622
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: Gucci coming, Yeah, and what happened?

623
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: So Gucci comes like you know, here a street guy,

624
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: and he got his little nephew.

625
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: Gucci wrote a song for him.

626
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: His name was Little Buddy, and he wrote a song

627
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: for him called little Buddy, like I need you to

628
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: make a beef for this, Like you know, I'm gonna

629
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: pay you to make a beef for my little nephew.

630
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: And I'm so I made the beat.

631
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: Gucci go in there rapping him, trying to teach his

632
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: little nephew how to do it. I'm like, dang, like

633
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: he sound hard. You sound like bro, you sound dope,

634
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: like you need to do that artist. Yeah, you sound

635
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: like an artist.

636
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: He wasn't an artist, ship man.

637
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: This is a strip.

638
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: I can't even get into who Gucci was back then. Yeah,

639
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, but it turned into

640
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: for real zay all right, he come over the next day,

641
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: he do a song for itself. Before you know it,

642
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: every day say it's something about seven thirty morning, say,

643
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm una brush my teeth. I'm finna come over all right.

644
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Bet So, we just making songs every day. Yeah, and

645
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: I love making beats. And it's like, well, we just

646
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: recording every day for.

647
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: You know it.

648
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna go perform on our songs at the

649
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: club tonight. We used to go to this club called

650
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: the Libra on Moorland Avenue for you know it. It's

651
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: like Gucci already got a name. He got a name

652
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: but for doing other stuff. But he got a real

653
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: name in the streets. So you know, people kind of

654
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: resonated to the music a little different. So he just

655
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: started coming like a hood hero with the music and

656
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: I'm making the beats. And what may one thing I

657
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: can't pay Guccie for is the promotion that he gave

658
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: me your name. Man, This man talk about me like

659
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm the best thing since sliced bread.

660
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it.

661
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Used to be embarrassing because we'll go to the I'm

662
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: talking We go to the studio with a whole bunch

663
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: of street guys. His first introduction and this is my

664
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: produce a too. He don't drink, he don't smoke, He

665
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: don't because he played organ at church.

666
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, why you got to say all that?

667
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: Why are you saying all that? You know what I mean?

668
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm talking about were around.

669
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a safety introduction. Yeah, it's a

670
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a that's a good guy, guy. Yeah, that's a

671
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: good guy.

672
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: He was looking out, but he was no.

673
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: Fool with him and he with me.

674
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he bragging.

675
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: But you know how you done been, you know how

676
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: you know how you you know you'd be like, man,

677
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: I thank god, I ain't not happened to me. I've

678
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: been in a lot of places like Bro, I shouldn't

679
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: even been where I was at. You know, I was

680
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: in a lot of places where it's like I'm not

681
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: even knowing what I'm into, you know what I mean,

682
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: innocently in places where I was like, Bronie, I shouldn't

683
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: even been over there.

684
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody, including a guy who don't do nothing.

685
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know. I'm just here because you

686
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: know we're doing I'm here yeah.

687
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah that is, but muchI.

688
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: But me and Gucci start getting like this.

689
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: So now it's when it comes to music, I'm we

690
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: on each other hip everywhere we go, every studio, every man,

691
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: you can be in the studio with Guji and Timmelin

692
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: come by and bring some beats for Gucci.

693
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: So you started being that thing he.

694
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Started getting, you know, Gucci started getting like everybody want

695
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: to work with Gucci, Gucci being there. Listen, he can

696
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: be in there. Listen to the Neptune beats. Theyre in

697
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 2: there playing with some beats. If I walk in the studio,

698
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: all right, yea, I don't want y'all be here now.

699
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: So they pulled some beats up like that's how loyal,

700
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: and that's how he was with you know, us doing music,

701
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: and it was a sound. I guess he just he

702
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: loved one thing about me and she is We never

703
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: told each other that song whack. Even if if I

704
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: thought the song was whack, I ain't gonna tell him

705
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: what I feel.

706
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not going crazy.

707
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: That's hard.

708
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: Telling me the same thing. It's almost like I noticed beat,

709
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: ain't that hard? I'm going to kill this And it's like,

710
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, but I learned a lot in that because

711
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: some of those same songs that I felt like, bro,

712
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: that ain't it? When he go do a show, these

713
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: some of his biggest songs that he performed. Yeah, so

714
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: it's like you can't say that, ain't it. So that's

715
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: why I started learning everything is everything.

716
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I learned that from many fresh man.

717
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: Everything is it?

718
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Many fresh is just like I mean, I got a

719
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: thousand beats, just put on it, Yo, that's it. I said,

720
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: I need, I need, I need a smash.

721
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: Smash smash it.

722
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Bro, what you talking about?

723
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: What you're gonna say on it? Yeah?

724
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: I need to get to fighting somebody in the studio.

725
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about I need to hit I ain't get

726
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: out my studio.

727
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: That what you need to hit you?

728
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

729
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I stopped doing that, bro, his don't come like that.

730
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: So what's your first Like, what's your first like moment

731
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: of success, like where it's like.

732
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: So so icy was my first song that hit the

733
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: radio and in the clubs and everything?

734
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: Oh so what do you say when he says my

735
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: chain hang down to my dick? He just went off

736
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: at the end, though, Man, it was like, what's playboy

737
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: name that sings on the song?

738
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: Little Will lou Will like LII yeah, little Will going crazy?

739
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: I like Little Will nigga.

740
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: But he said that at the end. I said, Oh

741
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: my god, yeah, yeah, you got you got say what

742
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: year is that?

743
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: It's two thousand and four, Yeah, I know. I look,

744
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm like twenty two years old. That two thousand.

745
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: I remember playing in a celebrity game, celebrity basketball game

746
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: with Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Roy Jones and a bunch of.

747
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: Uh not Alabama somewhere you know.

748
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'll be I'll.

749
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: Be one of them.

750
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: And that was my first time meeting him and like

751
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: going up and down the court with him.

752
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: I was like, this nigga right here is funny the money.

753
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: And I didn't really know what.

754
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 4: I knew.

755
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: I knew the song, yeah, but I really wasn't up

756
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: on what this nigga is, you know what I'm saying.

757
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: And he just seemed like a nice, funny dude, just

758
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: cracking and getting up and down the court. You don't

759
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: really hooking around. Turn Out he's really dangerous.

760
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so how did y'all kick so icy off?

761
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: I cult here at the barbershop. Gucci called me, uh,

762
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: you know, Jesus want to do a song with us, Like,

763
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: we need to go to the studio. He got the

764
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: studio time set up for this. I leave the barbershop,

765
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: go to my mama house. Meet Gucci over there. Make

766
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: the beat five minutes, you know, five ten minutes, because

767
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: we're trying to hurt him. Get to the studio because

768
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Yong Jesus is the biggest thing going every time. But

769
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: he wanted to do a song with Yeah, So we

770
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: sitting there, you know, we get down to the studio

771
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: and we just waiting in the lobby till his time

772
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: to go in there to do, you know, to do

773
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: the song with him.

774
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: And you can tell when we came in there.

775
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: First of all, Gucci started bragging on me again so

776
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: much like he do he this and that, he all that.

777
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, please stop doing that because I feel

778
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: like when you play the beats now, they're gonna be listening, like, bro,

779
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: he ain't all that the greatest thing I ever heard

780
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: one thing about my music Back then. I never felt

781
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: confident in my beats that much because I didn't know

782
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: how to mix, idn't know how to master. My stuff

783
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: just sounded just rough or it didn't sound you know

784
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: how you go to the studio somebody else music sound

785
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 2: like that, don't sound like like it sposed.

786
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: To be like a radio radio, right right?

787
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: My music sound like it ain't turned Can y'all turn

788
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: it up a little bit? Or I can't hear? Like

789
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Is that what it sounded like?

790
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: So I'm like doing all that bragging, bron make me

791
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: look bad and strong enough. When he pulled up the

792
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: beat so icy, I just made it. Geezu was like, yeah, that's.

793
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Cool if y'all want to do that, you know what

794
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean. You ain't got nothing else really feeling it,

795
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So it's like, but Gucci

796
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: likeable pull.

797
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: Something else up this and that.

798
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: But I almost kind of got offended because I didn't

799
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: really know who jez was and what he meant. You know,

800
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: I know he was popping, but it's like, bro, I

801
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: felt like, hold on, I thought he said he want

802
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: to do a song with us, with us, how you

803
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: gonna tell us what we want to do? So, long

804
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: story short, we were going back. We went back to

805
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: the so icy beat because I'm like, man, let's just

806
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: do the song we came to do. I didn't pull

807
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: that back up, and.

808
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 4: Then Jesu, I bet that's what y'all want to do

809
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: with Everything is already.

810
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: On it, no nothing on it, nothing, It's just but

811
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: but Gucci sanging the idea to him. Now, Gucci can't sing,

812
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: but he's saying, all these girls excited. Now you gotta

813
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: think at the time, Jezu they it's BMF. They super street,

814
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: everything is super street. This sounded like ky and candidate

815
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: to him. Right now, Bro, what y'all you talking about?

816
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: All these girls excited and all that. But you gotta think,

817
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: Gucci in the mind frame of you seeing BMF, you're

818
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: seeing all this jury, all this money icy is like, Bro,

819
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: that we're trying to, you know, make almost like a

820
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: club type record. So he sang the hook, but then

821
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: little will happen to be in the studio. So he

822
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: sung the hook for us. So now once he sing it,

823
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: now it sounds like we might have got something. You

824
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: got a singer, and then he got a singer in there,

825
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: so now you got back then, won't nobody using auto tune.

826
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 2: It was the first time somebody used We used auto

827
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: tune on this very little bit. Now t Pain Sprung

828
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: came out around the same time where he used a

829
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: lot of auto tune, but we had used auto tune before.

830
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: He even used it.

831
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: You know, just a fun fact, you know what I mean?

832
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: We put auto tune on it, and it's like, okay,

833
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: now the hook on it. It where you see fifteen

834
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: people in the studio with they know pad out like, bro,

835
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: I'm finna put.

836
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: A verse on this.

837
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get a verse on this, Okay.

838
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: After JZ put his verse on it first, Yeah, Gucci

839
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: was about to go in there and say a verse

840
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: he already had and I'm like, no, bro, you gotta

841
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: come brand new. So we went in the other room

842
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: while he writing his verse, but everybody in the studio.

843
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: Booth from Cash Money was there. That's how he got

844
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: on the song. He was there as well, but it's,

845
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, just mislating people. Everybody got their pin out like, oh.

846
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm finna get on it.

847
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: Coach K was there, and Coach K was the first

848
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: one saying like, hey, bro, y'all got to hit this

849
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: a hit right off the rip? Off the rip, You're like, bro,

850
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: y'all got to hit and before you know it, Bro,

851
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: It's like Jez was so popping, but he didn't have

852
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: an identify like a hit song. He had a whole

853
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: lot of hard music, but he didn't have no song

854
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: that sounded like that. So now that the song is

855
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: out on mixtape and started to circle circulating the street.

856
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: Every time GZ do a show, it's almost like, do

857
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: so icy what one is? They want to hear that song?

858
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: I remember what JZ and P Diddy was. I forgot

859
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: the name of the club at the time, but they

860
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: was on the on the bar and Jesus was performing

861
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: and they were doing all the songs that everybody know.

862
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: But you can tell everybody like man, me and Gucci

863
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: sitting in the crowd, you know what I mean. Gucci like,

864
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: and they was like, but they want to hear so icy.

865
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: So they were like, man, call Gucci up here. Gucci like,

866
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: they give me your chain because he got the chain already,

867
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: so we both just got our necklace. Give me your

868
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: change so I can look extra icy. It wasn't really

869
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: all that icy, but you know back then and he

870
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: got on stage and rocked it. That's when we know

871
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: its like that's the song. That's when everybody like, Okay,

872
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: we want that song.

873
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: We need that song. So as you say that, I

874
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: get a phone call that has nothing to do with me.

875
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: One of my big homies from the Bag, Guy arrest

876
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 4: his soul.

877
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: She kiss Stuart.

878
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: He calls me he said, Playboy, I need a favor.

879
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: What's up? Yeah, he like, and when he would get

880
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: me those calls, I knew. I knew it was like

881
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: it was something Yeah, it was something big and he

882
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: was he the biggest executive in the industry at this point.

883
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: He cracking.

884
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: He in my opinion, Shaki was the first superstar and

885
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: on her like he really he was an artist.

886
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: He was that guy.

887
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: And you know, he had did the j Z deal

888
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: and he said, it's this record. He said, most niggas

889
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: don't know that this kid is from the Bay. I

890
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: just found out this kid is from the Bay. He

891
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: out in Atlanta's When he said that, I said, oh,

892
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 4: he talking about Za and the crazy shit is you

893
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: hadn't had no hit records yet. But I just knew

894
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: that because I'm like, only nigga he could possibly be

895
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: talking about, like he didn't did his research and now

896
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: he didn't figure it out. Oh Ja from San Francisco,

897
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: Jayson Philmo. I just heard. He told it's actually from

898
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: out there calling Jay. So I'm like, what you need, like,

899
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: nigg he got this record. It's so icy, I said,

900
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: I just heard that. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, they cracking.

901
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 4: It's like they cracking. I'm like, all right, what what's

902
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: the What's he said, I need it? I said, what

903
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: Jeez on the record? Like no, no, no, no, no,

904
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 4: I need it. But that's they record from my understanding.

905
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, but we need that as as Jeez's

906
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: first single. We're trying to launch it off of that record.

907
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: He said, you know, can you get in contact with A?

908
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 4: I said, I can call him. I said, I don't

909
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: give out nobody phone number. Anybody that know me. I

910
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: don't give out nobody phone number. I or I got

911
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: to call you first and be like yo, such such

912
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: looking for whatever it is. I don't care who it is,

913
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: not giving out nobody's phone number. So I called A.

914
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, bruh, they looking for you. I'm like, I'm like,

915
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: they're looking for you. Like, yeah, nah, you're talking about

916
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: the record. I said, yeah, Bro, I said, My message

917
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: was say your number and whatever that number is, they

918
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: got it for you a sap. He said, hey, Bro,

919
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: tell them that ain't they record?

920
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

921
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 4: I ain't about to play with that man song.

922
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: My hand was tired right now what I'm supposed to do?

923
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: But I was I was hoping in praying that it

924
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: can go on geez O man, they.

925
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: Can figure it out. Which that does happen at times.

926
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: It does happen at times. But I think Gucci was

927
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: kind of looking at it as in jez was so

928
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: big at the time. If this goes on his project,

929
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna I ain't got no place in it. I

930
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: ain't got no place no more. It's like I'm just

931
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: somebody on the song and then my time is over it.

932
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: So now we need this to be this Gucci man song.

933
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: And which was right?

934
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: He needed that, you know what I mean? So, and

935
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: I was with it like it wasn't no number. I

936
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: wasn't even I didn't care about the money like that

937
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: back then, you know, you know what I mean. It

938
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: wasn't no number that I can say that this is

939
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: gonna make me do. That wasn't no So and Gucci

940
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: is my guy, Like I say, he called me seven

941
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: thirty in the morning. Every day we go to the club,

942
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: yeah exactly, We go to the clinging with our clothes,

943
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: We go to the fleet market and spray get our

944
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: clothes spray painted with the songs that he feel have performed.

945
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: And that night, that's how close we know were so

946
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna give music, come.

947
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: On, man, because then it's your song too.

948
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: It goes they went to me, but you know, if

949
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: it's going to Jesus, gonna be bigger because he got

950
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: the bigger budget. He got everything going on right now.

951
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: But that don't mean that much to me matter. If

952
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, I was. I was

953
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: so locked in with Guccia, I didn't care if I

954
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: produce for anybody else, you know what I mean. If

955
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: I didn't get no bigger than that. At the time,

956
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: I felt like, I'm straight. As long as I'm doing

957
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: his music, then I'm straight. I don't care no about

958
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: nobody else music.

959
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: That's how you know.

960
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: That's how it really was, because didn't nobody else get

961
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: my music anyway? To him, But it's the hardest music

962
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: in the world. Somebody else, they hear, like, bro, what's

963
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: that what I'm I supposed to do with that? So

964
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: all right, I'm not appreciated here. Let me go back

965
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: over here where he loved the music.

966
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was like that for a long time.

967
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: You know how hard it is for me to produce

968
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: for somebody else because I'm known as Gucci Man producer

969
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: it's like, ok can you make that time?

970
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

971
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Don't nobody, don't nobody rock with me, cause it's like,

972
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: oh you, Gucci Man is like the outlaw, you know,

973
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: far as the industry is like, oh you with Gucci,

974
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: you over there, everybody else over here, But okay, you

975
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: and Gucci, y'all do y'all.

976
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: You know whoever with Gucci, y'all.

977
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: Do y'all stuff over there, and hopefully hopefully y'all make

978
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: it big, you know what I mean?

979
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: But I was okay with that.

980
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: So once all the smoke clears and it's Gucci Man's

981
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: record and it hits the radio, do you do you

982
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: feel a shift and a change because now you got

983
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: to hit record on the radio.

984
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: Oh I don't you know what I felt like. I

985
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: felt like, I want to say, I got lucky almost.

986
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: I felt like this ain't gonna happen again. So let

987
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: me cherish the moment, moment, the money I make off of.

988
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: Let me kind of tuck it, put it away, you know.

989
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: Being nothing crazy to do.

990
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: I spent all the money, but.

991
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: You know how my thought pattern was I about the studio.

992
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: I spent all my money on studio equipment. Yeah, Okay,

993
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: I saw my house looking like patchwork down Once you

994
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: got all this stuff down like a real studio.

995
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: Now you're excited.

996
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: Now your sound sounds different.

997
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: But I was excited about just still just doing music

998
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: at the house. I wouldn't right now, I want to

999
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: make another big record. I don't even think about none

1000
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: of that, you know what I mean. And you know

1001
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: how this music stuff, you can be a one hit wonder.

1002
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: Your time could come and go just like that. So

1003
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: watching my mom and daddy get up and go to

1004
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: work every day, I didn't put all my eggs in

1005
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: or I hadn't made it in music. This ain't enough

1006
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: money to make it in music, really, like you know

1007
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: what I mean. You know, maybe when it's all saying done,

1008
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: about a hundred grand or something like that. Now that's

1009
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: more than what our parents ever seen, what I ever seen.

1010
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: But this ain't enough to say.

1011
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: I can't live and die with this. So I'm at

1012
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: the barbershop. I'm still cutting here at the bar shop

1013
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: every day, sun up to sun down.

1014
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: So Icey's burning the streets.

1015
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: It's the big number one song on the radio. But

1016
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: it's like I'm still at the barbershop. I'm at the barbershop,

1017
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: matter of fact, with the radio on, like ooh, I'm

1018
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: my song number one today?

1019
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: You know, we number one on the radio, right, you

1020
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

1021
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: And I'm happy about that, and I'm happy about cutting here,

1022
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: and I'm happy about playing at church, and I'm.

1023
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: Happy about still selling beers. You know what I mean.

1024
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: That's it, you know, I feel good. I'm straight.

1025
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1026
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: So if it don't go no further than this, I

1027
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: was happy. I had that moment, you know what I mean.

1028
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Now Gucci get the murder case, he go to jail.

1029
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: We don't know how long he even be gone. Now

1030
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: don't got Gucci man no more. All I had is

1031
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: the songs that we didn't been recording this and that

1032
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't got another artist that's you know, that's as

1033
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: big as him, and that's locked in.

1034
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: That's locked in.

1035
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: So I did his second album called Hard to Kill.

1036
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: So it was all zayto all the music I had recorded,

1037
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1038
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: That was a hard album right there.

1039
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: It's hard, you.

1040
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, That's what the song pilled I

1041
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: might be all that, you know, freaky girl. All this

1042
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: stuff come off with that album and it's like so

1043
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: it's like you know, but still I'm still looking at

1044
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: it in like, Okay, that's dope. I ain't make no

1045
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: crazy money and nothing like that.

1046
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something else fun. I had another

1047
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: phone call to you, and I don't even know if

1048
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: you know this. You know, I'm the first R and

1049
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: B singer that Gucci did a record with.

1050
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: See, I didn't know that.

1051
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I call you.

1052
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 4: You're like, you want Gucci on the record. Yeah, because

1053
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 4: he had put out Freaky Girl, and I had a

1054
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 4: song called Freaky Freak Freak Freaky And you're like, oh yeah,

1055
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonn connect you with dam called dare. I paid

1056
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: Gucci man five thousand. Imagine that a Gucci man Verse

1057
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: for five five nigga, that's a hundred years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1058
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: I called you exact I need him. Yeah, I got you.

1059
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 4: Send the record. He shouts you out on the record.

1060
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: That's what everything off beat, that's what that's that's Gucci,

1061
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: the whole versus off beat.

1062
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, and this is back when I

1063
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: was in my I'm on my engineer days and I'm like,

1064
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: I gotta shift this.

1065
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: We shift.

1066
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: We shifted, Nigga, and to this day, it's still people

1067
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: that be like that record you and Gucci Nigga back

1068
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: the people.

1069
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: That Manuc is so funny when it comes to that. No,

1070
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: he I know that, but just my own beat. I

1071
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: just I know that Gucci right there.

1072
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, I got the first Gucci man

1073
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 4: R B F.

1074
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

1075
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: He had never been a R record for that. It's

1076
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, he's just building records for his for.

1077
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: To talk about it.

1078
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: I've never had a chance to say, but thank you.

1079
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: I'm right with it.

1080
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: Don't matter who if they made the phone call shot out,

1081
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: it's everything they It's like, bro, you ain't really got

1082
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: to shot me out on it, but okay.

1083
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 4: You put this album out?

1084
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: All right?

1085
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 4: How did y'all do it? Did he put it out?

1086
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: Even know I put it out? He was in jail,

1087
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: so he was with Big Cat Records at the time.

1088
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: So they coming to me like say, we need I

1089
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: need your executive produce album cause we ain't got no

1090
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: music on Gucci.

1091
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: He do everything at your house, so we need some

1092
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: songs to put out.

1093
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: So I got all the songs and put it out

1094
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: and that's when I start thinking about, Okay, I gotta

1095
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: start building a zay Tooven name because I don't know

1096
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: if Gucci, you know, what's what's gonna happen. So now

1097
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: I put it hard to Kill. After that, I put

1098
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: a mixtape out called Ier Tech. I said, put my

1099
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: face on there, put Gucci face, you know, because now

1100
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: I'm starting to try to brand myself just in case,

1101
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, Gucci is not gonna be around or.

1102
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: Whatever, this and that.

1103
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: So that's when I start. That's when the name start,

1104
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, kind of getting hot in the streets, real tough.

1105
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: Now every dope nigga in the world, I need to

1106
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: go see ze Toe. And it's because Gucci saying, say

1107
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: is this? They say they That's all he's saying.

1108
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: So he to the world.

1109
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: Now he just off somebody and everybody know about it,

1110
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: so his credibility goes through the roof.

1111
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Jesez the hottest thing smoking.

1112
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: But Guji just he on TV for you know, for

1113
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: Poppins Onbody like so you know, you know how music streets.

1114
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: It's like it looked like it looked like and and

1115
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were artists before Gucci, you know what

1116
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying that were actually who they were, Yeah, who

1117
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: they were just niggas. He's living.

1118
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: He's living, and you he's he's actually living it.

1119
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: And he's on powers rotation on the on the radio,

1120
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: and so to to every to every dope boy who's

1121
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: ever had being on the radio ambitions, you're the soundtrack.

1122
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: That's exactly where it was, where it was.

1123
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: This don't happen. No, I don't, especially not us being

1124
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: able to get in this room together and talk about

1125
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 4: this and really be like, man, you did that, Oh

1126
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: you did that? You know what I'm saying, Like, it

1127
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 4: don't happen. Bro, Man, listen, you don't tell people all

1128
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 4: the time.

1129
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: It's that's that's really like, that's God's favor.

1130
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: I feel like on me because I didn't, like I said,

1131
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: I didn't get into this to get where I'm at,

1132
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: And a lot of things that came to me, I

1133
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: don't know where they came from.

1134
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: It's like, Bro, I didn't I didn't expect that. I

1135
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: didn't know that was coming.

1136
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 2: I don't know where they came from, but it land

1137
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 2: right in my left. All these artists were talking about

1138
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: that was not even big artists. They end up coming

1139
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 2: into the zatoven world and then they blow up, so

1140
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: they just kept me going for so long, and I

1141
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: remember a propheted saying this to me in church. She

1142
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: passed a few years ago. Laate the name by the

1143
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: name of Diane Palmer. You know you in church, so

1144
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: you know somebody call you up and prophesied to you

1145
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: many times. She was. She said to me, your sound

1146
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: is going to be across the nations. And I thought, she,

1147
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: you know I'm playing organ at church. I'm thinking she,

1148
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I ain't even that good playing I'm okay,

1149
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: Like I'm not. You know how, it's musicians out here

1150
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: that are playing up on the table like man. It's like, man,

1151
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: I ain't nowhere near good as him. And I tell

1152
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: people that even with producing, I'm not as good as

1153
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I feel like I got some

1154
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: unique but I don't. I'm not as good as people

1155
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: playing the keyboard and I think I'm super great, but

1156
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: I'm not all that good playing like that. And I

1157
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: ain't all that good making beats. But the combination is

1158
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: what makes you know. Yeah, So she was telling me, like,

1159
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: your sound is going to be great over the nations.

1160
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: I didn't know she was talking about trap music. You

1161
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying.

1162
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: I didn't know all these years this music been going on.

1163
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: It's almost stemmed from the trap music I was making

1164
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 2: in my mama's basement.

1165
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: So that's what she was talking about. So you know

1166
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: what I mean, that's always look at it like that.

1167
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: Bro, Like God just bring different situations and put people

1168
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: in my life to make me continue to keep going

1169
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: and keep getting bigger.

1170
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, he said favorite, that's a real thing. That's

1171
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: straight up watsch My guy, Keith Battle pass the Keith Battle.

1172
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: He did my wedding. But I've been knowing him since

1173
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and I was just watching. I

1174
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: was scrolling past the videos and he said, see favor,

1175
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: and I was just kept scrolling. I said, let me

1176
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: go back to that, and he just started talking about

1177
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: favor and how favor. You know. One thing about favor

1178
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: is that it's always very particular. It's not all y'all,

1179
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: it's just you. Yeah, yeah, Favor is you, and favor

1180
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: has has a public demeanor. You know, even even if

1181
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: the favor is given to you in private, it's going.

1182
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 4: To have a public felt mm hmmm.

1183
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: Or for the most part, it's just it's in public

1184
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: and you can see the favor on somebody You're like,

1185
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: You're like, how yeh like you as you talk about this,

1186
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: as you continue to break artists and just breaks, it's like,

1187
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: how how are you? How you doing that different?

1188
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: So that's what it is.

1189
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: That that's you know, and that's where the cretit go,

1190
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: brocause you know, it ain't none of them super specially.

1191
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 2: It ain't that I work extra harder than somebody else

1192
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: or none of that.

1193
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 4: So that's what it is. I got a question too, though,

1194
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 4: as a producer. As a you might not look at

1195
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 4: it this way, but as a super producer, absolutely, who

1196
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: would you do a versus against a versus.

1197
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: M that you respect that you like, you know what,

1198
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: me and this producer will go crazy going back and

1199
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: forth with these records. That's hard for me to say

1200
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: because like I got so many producer buddies, and all

1201
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: of them is I didn't watch producers come from They'll

1202
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: come and hang out at my mama basement. Now they's

1203
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: some of the biggest producers in the world right now.

1204
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: But I think because of my time stretches, you know,

1205
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: So it's kind of it's hard because like when I

1206
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: came in the game, it was shoddy.

1207
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: Red nitty drama boy, you know what I mean.

1208
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: It was like those like my guys, I'm kind of

1209
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: balancing against a little bit, you know what I mean.

1210
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: But then later on became like Mike will Sonny Digital

1211
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 2: and you know, guys like that. Then came Metro, London

1212
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: Ato a Mafia, you know what I mean. So I

1213
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: kind of been there before. Like I remember, I sit

1214
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: on the couch and you know with say Metro and

1215
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: he be like, man, I got in it because Zay

1216
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: got you know, I started making beats watching Zay Or

1217
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: or Mike Willer say, man, they used to let me

1218
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: come to the house, and so it's like I was

1219
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: kind of before them, you know what I mean. Now

1220
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: these guys are the biggest in the in the world now,

1221
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: but you know, it's like I don't know another producer.

1222
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that's on the same time stretch that

1223
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm on twenty years. So it's different, you know, I

1224
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I respect that, not to say that my

1225
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: music is better than theirs.

1226
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 3: I got bigger, but it's just it's, yeah, so much

1227
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: time and it's a lot of time.

1228
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: Who has that much time in music?

1229
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: So I mean, and at the end of the day too.

1230
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: I just appreciate the guys that you said too though,

1231
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: just the biggest to respect. You just paid to them,

1232
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 4: the biggest.

1233
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I get it. I'm gonna

1234
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: tell what I love about them. They always have reached

1235
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 2: back and say, Zay, don't working on this project.

1236
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: You know, I need you to do something. I want

1237
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: you to do something on this with me, you know

1238
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1239
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: So now these guys I used to let come to

1240
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: my mama house, to my mama basement. You know, I'm

1241
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: not knowing this is gonna be a super mega producer.

1242
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know these guys are gonna be big as

1243
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: they are. So you know, it's a blessing to see that.

1244
00:56:59,760 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 6: All.

1245
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: Let's connect, bro.

1246
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: Man, if you knew how many people came out of

1247
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: my mama's basement, it's amazing.

1248
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: Fain That's it.

1249
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: That's it.

1250
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, all right, all right?

1251
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: He going to the piano.

1252
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean because we you know, we got the piano

1253
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: man here, huh.

1254
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 3: You know we ought to be doing you know, we

1255
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: gotta do for the podcast.

1256
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: We gotta.

1257
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: We gotta do it.

1258
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes of us creating a song from scratch.

1259
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: Let's do it some special edition, some special.

1260
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you family, whenever you want to pull

1261
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: up to the podcast, that's up to you.

1262
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: So you you've heard a lot of music in your time.

1263
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: You've made a lot of music in your time.

1264
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: Some of it.

1265
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: It's your favorite. We want to know your.

1266
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: Top f your top five, Yeah, talk five, your.

1267
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: Top five on be single.

1268
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: Already be so.

1269
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: We wanna know Saint sat Tony.

1270
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: Drop me up.

1271
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: Top Crazy.

1272
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: That's the guest singer that come from the other church.

1273
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: You know, she coming and trying to show out. That's

1274
00:58:59,000 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 2: that's exactly what daddy.

1275
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: Come on, you know you're going to do a solo.

1276
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: You're doing Wade?

1277
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the church looking at you like, yeah,

1278
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: you know that's how I go too. You can't tell

1279
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: him nothing.

1280
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: Your top R and B singers, top five, you get

1281
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: five of them, let's go five.

1282
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: I gotta go with Ara Kelly.

1283
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1284
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if that hurt nobody.

1285
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: You know that.

1286
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't care the R N, R and B.

1287
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: You gotta go.

1288
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: I gotta go R for sure. I gotta go Usher.

1289
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: I'm a Joe to see guy. Yeah, you know what

1290
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Joe. Yeah, yeah, favorites Joe, that boy,

1291
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: come for my favorite cold. I'm throwing tanking now, not

1292
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: for sure, and I'm gonna tell you why, Bro, I

1293
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: wasn't even up on your music or none of that.

1294
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Right.

1295
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: My wife came and said and I forgot who she

1296
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: said that turned her onto it. But she came and

1297
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: played me, Now you already had I think I deserve.

1298
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: I probably had slowly already, which I didn't really pay

1299
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: that much attention to.

1300
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: I went back to it after I heard I'm so

1301
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: close on what album that was?

1302
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: Number that was one man.

1303
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: I was like, hold on this, nigga, he is going crazy,

1304
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1305
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: All the sounds in that song are from the triton.

1306
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what maybe probably what drew me to it, all.

1307
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Drums everything for real. That I was like, they brought

1308
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: a triton into the to the studio and I was like,

1309
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't even use no trying, and I just started

1310
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: going through the sound that's might that might be what

1311
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: it was. And I had my I was like, you know,

1312
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just grab the sounds out of here and

1313
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: just and just work with it. That's the man that costs.

1314
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: That song caught my ear and then I started listening

1315
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: to that project and then, uh, I'm the reason.

1316
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: Why I started sticking out to it.

1317
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: And it's like then I started listening like, hold on, bro,

1318
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: my wife got me listening to you, and it's like,

1319
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: now to turn into a tank fan.

1320
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1321
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: I mean.

1322
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B song.

1323
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: Tricky, that's tricky. You make songs, brother, make so songs.

1324
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: So I like by cut close. I don't know if

1325
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: y'all remember that one usher? Can you get with it?

1326
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

1327
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1328
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, here's.

1329
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: Gems almost matter of fact. All these songs might be

1330
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: nasty songs are hunching song because like.

1331
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: With Joe Church, Yeah, with Joe it's.

1332
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: Maybe I can do it right.

1333
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: I think it's called I can Do It right. The

1334
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: song is everything. Album see, y'all might not know. I

1335
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: might be getting you out on know what's going on.

1336
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: Y'all might be too young for all.

1337
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: Y'all?

1338
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 3: Might you know what I mean? Song?

1339
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: What I've noticed though, they like album cuts, album cuts nout.

1340
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 3: But I'm like, if you listen to my music, it's

1341
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: I never felt like I made music like you know, classics.

1342
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: We ain't trying to make no hit, trying to make

1343
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: something that's like forever.

1344
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I go the strip for you

1345
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: are Kelly and then Tank I'm so close, Like these

1346
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: are songs that when I'm out with my wife and

1347
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: we hang it out, these songs automatically gonna play allist

1348
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: every time we go out, and it's like, there's so

1349
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: many other songs, why you keep playing these songs?

1350
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get to your vult Tron.

1351
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: Brother.

1352
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna make a Vultron Zaytoven's Vultron, the most powerful

1353
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: R and B artist you can make. We want to

1354
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: know who you're gonna get the vocal from. For that artist,

1355
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the performance style from. Who You're gonna

1356
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: get the the styling from. Who's gonna put the fur on?

1357
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 4: Who?

1358
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's gonna get the heart of the artists from?

1359
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: And since you are a super producer, who's going to

1360
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: produce style? Let's start with the vocal. Who you getting

1361
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: the vocal from?

1362
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: I might go Usher, Universal Vocal Universe, do Anything, sing Anything?

1363
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1364
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 4: I go Usher.

1365
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: Who're getting the performance style from?

1366
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 3: Might go Chris Brown? You know he's gonna put on

1367
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: the show. Yeah you got every time every might do

1368
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: a backflip.

1369
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: Might he can do backflip? Okay, styling, I go Trey songs.

1370
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: Maybe Trey got a little swag on him, so I go, yeah, yeah,

1371
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Braids trailed, the braids, trades

1372
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: more more street mode.

1373
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go that way.

1374
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, I go that way. Passion of the artist,

1375
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: the heart of the artists.

1376
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 3: You gotta go like fantasic and yeah yeah, shoes early early,

1377
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: yeah it now right now, yeah yeah.

1378
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: And who's gonna produce for this artist?

1379
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with.

1380
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: Think I'm gonna go with yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1381
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah. What else? We got Chief? We got Chief.

1382
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 4: That's what's up. Taking the church.

1383
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no, nat saying no.

1384
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 5: What you mean?

1385
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no.

1386
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 7: Yeah. You can't cousin church though, But go ahead, go ahead,

1387
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 7: gotta work on working progress.

1388
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 4: God, I know your heart.

1389
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 3: You know your heart. I know your heart.

1390
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 5: Man.

1391
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 4: So we got we got this game. It's called I

1392
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: ain't saying no names. You tell us a story, funny

1393
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 4: er fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? Your travels

1394
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: in this thing and throughout the trap, throughout the industry,

1395
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 4: your travels Atoven travels throughout this whole thing. The only

1396
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: rule to the game. You can't say no names. Okay.

1397
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 4: I know you're meant to some places and he's seen

1398
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: some things. Hell, I just can't say no names.

1399
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: I can't say no name.

1400
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: Shut on.

1401
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: Let me think. Okay, well, why you think I'm gonna

1402
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: introduce it to the people, Because this is Atven, Mister

1403
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 4: so Icy himself make the traps say hey, m m hm,

1404
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 4: and he's gonna give you your papers. I like, I

1405
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 4: like that is you rolling?

1406
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Might be a.

1407
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 4: Say Toven, I ain't saying no names. Mm hmmm.

1408
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: So I had an artist, well known artist, asked me

1409
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: to come out do a show with him. And I

1410
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: don't even know what part of TEXTA wheel was in somewhere.

1411
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 4: I didn't really know. You know, they want me to

1412
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 4: bring the band.

1413
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: So I got me, I got the keys, got a

1414
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: got my drummer, and my two guitar tars.

1415
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: So we go do the show.

1416
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 4: Damn what he gonna know? I'm talking about him too.

1417
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: We go do the show, We go back to the hotel.

1418
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: He takes off because he going to another city before

1419
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: we get there. Well we at ain't no funk. You

1420
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: can't ain't no service, you know, with the hotel we're at.

1421
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: So he was supposed to have the transportation set up

1422
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: for us to get to the airport, you know what

1423
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: I mean, everything, so we can fly to the next city. Man,

1424
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: the man ain't booked no flights. He ain't booked no

1425
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: ooh to come get us. So we stuck out in

1426
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 2: this place in Texas. We don't know, I'm talking about

1427
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: talking about the middle of nowhere. Phone ain't got no

1428
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: service or nothing. Now I got my people with me.

1429
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: They looking at me cause it's like okay, they we followed,

1430
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: they came for me, and you can't get the man

1431
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: on the phone onto about threefold day.

1432
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: You stranded.

1433
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: It's like stranded, like what kind of what what's going

1434
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: on here?

1435
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1436
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: So, you know, and this was like this is kind

1437
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: of kind of early. This was back in the you know,

1438
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: back in the day where it's like I don't even

1439
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: think I don't even think we was using Uber like

1440
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: like you know, like it was now.

1441
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it was Uber trying to find a cab.

1442
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: We were trying to have Yeah, we had either find

1443
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 3: a cab with the car, like a shuttle or something

1444
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: like that.

1445
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a car service.

1446
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 3: But bro, we we ain't had nobody number. We couldn't.

1447
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't ask his phone, so we ain't

1448
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 3: had nobody else to call. So we just stuck out here.

1449
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: We stayed out there like three days, you know, and

1450
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: then went back to Atlanta. And it's like, bro, what happened?

1451
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 4: Like what happened?

1452
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 3: Like you know when you finally get to it, like, bro, happened?

1453
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

1454
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 3: Bro, you know all this dude dope drugs. They be

1455
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 3: on something else.

1456
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: Man, I was tripping, broke my bad, this and that,

1457
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: and that made me stop really touring, you know what

1458
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean, playing being a musician for an artist on

1459
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: the on the road because of because.

1460
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: Of that, you know what I mean, left you and

1461
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: just left y'all.

1462
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 2: Bro, we're talking about Texas where it's like, ain't nothing

1463
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: around like the room. I don't know what why, I

1464
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: don't know why we was in these rooms because they

1465
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 2: don't stay in the same room we staying in. It's like, okay,

1466
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: the band, y'all stay over here. We staying in the

1467
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Royal suite over here, right. But me, now, even though

1468
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm Zaytoven, I'm not the type of guy that's gonna say, Okay,

1469
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: band members, y'all stay there, I'm gonna go stay with them.

1470
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay with y'all. Y'all here for me, you

1471
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: know what i mean. So and it was just like dang, bro,

1472
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: but bro levels here, you know, for for three days.

1473
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 2: And it ain't ain't even reach out, ain't saying answer

1474
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: the phone or none of that. So it left a

1475
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: bad taste in everybody.

1476
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 4: Maund three four days.

1477
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: Was the rooms paid for at least, but it ain't

1478
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: nothing paid for. My god, that's what makes it so bad.

1479
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: It's like, now, okay, so I'm responsible.

1480
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: Huh, how'd y'all get back?

1481
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 3: So that the.

1482
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 2: The guy at the at the front desk, he was like, bro,

1483
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: what y'all need? You know, I'm gonna help y'all get

1484
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: the way y'all going, you know what I mean.

1485
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: So we stayed. We stayed that, We stayed for a

1486
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 3: while because we're like, no, they're gonna get us, you know,

1487
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: they're gonna get us out of here.

1488
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: They just took a few days. And it just for

1489
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: me that made me be like, bro, I'm I'm I'm.

1490
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to say I'm bigger than that, but

1491
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 2: it's like, right, this.

1492
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 3: Ain't worth it.

1493
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 4: Ain't for me, it ain't.

1494
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: This ain't worth it, and the money don't be worth

1495
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: it when it comes to doing that stuff.

1496
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: You know, I.

1497
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: Was doing it out of love for it and this

1498
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: and that and the guy you know, the musicians now

1499
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: they geeked up about it. To them, it's like, bro,

1500
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: we all over the world we're doing this and that

1501
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: we're playing behind this person, you know what I mean.

1502
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 4: So because that's some people's passion.

1503
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: Man, I don't even know how they do it. I

1504
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: got my drumming out at the church find of going

1505
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: to it. I'm like, bro, no, how you finna do that?

1506
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 7: Boy?

1507
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 3: Because I show won't do that no more.

1508
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: This depends on who you who you're working for them, Huh,

1509
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: somebody can the artists can make the experience either really

1510
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: great or really fucked up for you.

1511
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,919
Speaker 3: I think I think me being.

1512
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: Who I am in the game already, that's kind of

1513
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: it was like going backwards for me in a way.

1514
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: So it's like, bro, I'm not used to this type

1515
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: of treatment and I'm not using to this type of money.

1516
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, I was doing it because it's like, Okay,

1517
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: I love to do it. I want to do on experience.

1518
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: But it's like, Bro's that don't make no sense.

1519
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it at least got to be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: five star comfortable for you, you know what I'm saying.

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: But if I but I'm the type of guy if

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01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: it can't be that for who all coming with me,

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01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: then I can't lead him out like that And I

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: don't go hang No, I ain't that type of person.

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 3: I'd rather hang with them.

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: But if we got to stay, you know, with the

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 3: motel is like.

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: Disrespect of the days. Yes they had a motel where

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01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: you outside, Yeah, ain't no hallway.

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Speaker 4: That's tricky. That's tricky. Business is tricky, Bro, tricky business.

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01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Brother, say.

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: You are him? Brother man, you are.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm glad I came.

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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate having you, man, Thank you, Bro. We uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, just outside of being family man, just you know,

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Speaker 1: we just appreciate you. Everything you've done, man and the

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Speaker 1: way you've done it. You know what I'm saying. Your

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Speaker 1: name is your name is great in these streets. That's

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Speaker 1: what's up, amazing. I've never heard.

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Speaker 4: Nobody couldn't tell me nothing sadeways about you.

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: Better what I like.

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01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: I like when somebody else can say everybody gonna say

1547
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: the same thing about me.

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 4: So that's good.

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Speaker 1: That main solid, That main right there. So we appreciate you, brother.

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Speaker 1: this has been mister Frank. All the artists himself still

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