Speaker 1: It's time for another episode of Pats from the Past podcast.
Speaker 1: Matt Smith, alongside Brian Morian, were pleased today to be
Speaker 1: joined by former Patriots defensive lineman Jarvis Green. Jarvis, how
Speaker 1: you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, guys. How y'all doing doing great?
Speaker 1: Let's see last we knew Jarvis? And to help Patriot fans,
Speaker 1: it's January twenty twenty one. It's we're taping this on
Speaker 1: the twenty first. I knew that you were in the
Speaker 1: shrimp business. I believe that that is. Is it something
Speaker 1: ninety seven?
Speaker 2: Help me out? Yeah, it's Ocean's ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I got the movie you yeahh Ocean's eleven
Speaker 1: Oceans ninety seven. So you're still in the shrimp business. Yah,
Speaker 1: still in the shrimp business, but you doing other things.
Speaker 1: You're not a real deal entrepreneurs. Yeah, why don't we
Speaker 1: tell Patriot fans what you're up to these days?
Speaker 3: So I have my shrimp business Ocean's ninety seven right now.
Speaker 3: Most of my product is like in a southern eights,
Speaker 3: you know, golf coasts, and then I'm on Amazon. So
Speaker 3: that's kind of where I've been been living, you know,
Speaker 3: with COVID the fact that we can't do we in
Speaker 3: store demos and all of that, you know. So so
Speaker 3: hopefully at some point we're gonna come up here, but
Speaker 3: it is what it is right now.
Speaker 2: So also, but I'm up here because I have an app.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a team member with a company called
Speaker 3: Chef to You, and it's gonna be like you got
Speaker 3: the grub hubs, you got the uber eats, you got
Speaker 3: those different type of food apps. But this app is
Speaker 3: more about a chef delivering uh a meal, you know,
Speaker 3: to the to the customer.
Speaker 1: I'm more of a are you looking at a high
Speaker 1: end sort of a thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Over, no, no, no, no, it's all over.
Speaker 3: But to think about this app is that all the
Speaker 3: traditional fast food change, we're never building that app.
Speaker 2: It's more about the chefs.
Speaker 3: So it won't be the McDonald's, Piece of Hood, Burger,
Speaker 3: king Domino, Chick fil A ever, But it's about the app.
Speaker 3: And it's like local restaurants, chef owners, you know, people
Speaker 3: that you know that to that today in this world,
Speaker 3: chefs are I mean, there are super heroes, you know,
Speaker 3: they've got the white hat, the white cape, and I
Speaker 3: think right now it's a perfect time for us, but
Speaker 3: this app has been created maybe well we've been talking
Speaker 3: about it, working on it for four years now, but
Speaker 3: now this is the perfect time. But just because of
Speaker 3: the industry, hospitality business is shut down and a lot
Speaker 3: of people need more opportunities, and I think this app
Speaker 3: will help those chefs.
Speaker 4: And so to be, like if I if I reach
Speaker 4: out through the app and I want to eat at Davio's,
Speaker 4: the chef at Davio's will be listed, yeah, and then
Speaker 4: I can pick from the menu that that chef has provided.
Speaker 2: Yes, or you would just say I want Italian? You know,
Speaker 2: are Chinese? You know?
Speaker 3: So like so yeah, so it would be that chef face.
Speaker 3: You know, you go into a virtual kitchen and Laila.
Speaker 4: And so that chef has listed a couple of items
Speaker 4: that he or she is making that evening.
Speaker 3: Yes for the app, yes, yes, And then we have
Speaker 3: different parts of a catering. We have food truck bartenders, buristas,
Speaker 3: private chefs, chef mills you know. You know, so we
Speaker 3: also have the instant meals of Gold, just like the
Speaker 3: traditional food apps.
Speaker 4: Just like a defensive lineman to get into selling food.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you keep it busy for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we stayed pretty busy. Uh, it's NonStop.
Speaker 3: I know last year when COVID hit around March, that's
Speaker 3: where my business like went from I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred to two miles an hour, you know, so
Speaker 3: I had to change, had to pivot and some things
Speaker 3: that you know you have for me. I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 3: The way I live life is that I try to
Speaker 3: make sure that could cross every bridge that that I
Speaker 3: that I see will try to walk over and keep
Speaker 3: those relationships with people. So I got into Ppe when
Speaker 3: when COVID hit, and it kind of started with working
Speaker 3: with the corrections UH corrections down South and Gola, and
Speaker 3: then from that uh, I was able to win some
Speaker 3: government bits and I stayed busy delivering Ppe sanitizer thanks
Speaker 3: you know of such you know, for the first line workers.
Speaker 1: And you're still you're living in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2: I'm in Baton Rouge now. I just bought a house
Speaker 2: like six months ago.
Speaker 1: Congratulations. Do they want Adrian's ahead after last year?
Speaker 3: They okay, nine know it's crazy to him, I'm bragging
Speaker 3: a little bit. So I sell Bass and Pep to
Speaker 3: LSU football team. So I'm always around. And this year
Speaker 3: was very very difficult after going fifteen to know the
Speaker 3: year before. Uh, Joe Burrow, I mean that you know,
Speaker 3: the team coach Ogeron. I mean, he recruited me when
Speaker 3: he was at Syracuse, so I love the guy to death,
Speaker 3: but it was so bad. I mean then the fact
Speaker 3: that you couldn't tailgate and made things worse. And man,
Speaker 3: and then again everybody see coach sab and with Alabama
Speaker 3: win in the national championship.
Speaker 2: So it stinks in battery rouge right now. But nobody
Speaker 2: wants his.
Speaker 1: Head, Okay, So that's a nice pivot title a year earlier.
Speaker 1: I mean, you wanted if they wanted his head that quickly.
Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty tough.
Speaker 2: Gig, absolute very tough.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned coach and K's down there to mention.
Speaker 2: Is he's doing great?
Speaker 3: I mean I saw him a couple of times when
Speaker 3: when I'm inside the you know, in the coaches and
Speaker 3: in the locker room, and I see him walking around
Speaker 3: and he's happy just to be there.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the great.
Speaker 3: Kevin Falk all the numbers he put up, but to
Speaker 3: be the running back coach there, hometown boy, you know,
Speaker 3: if Louisiana, I'm happy for him.
Speaker 2: You know he has a smile at the grinch.
Speaker 1: Just great, he's a patch from the past podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you mentioned Saban Jarvis. When you were in
Speaker 1: college and you played for Nick, did you ever think
Speaker 1: in that experience at college, well, listen, there can't be
Speaker 1: a harder coach than this guy, right, I mean, like
Speaker 1: there this is If I can play for this guy,
Speaker 1: I can play for anybody. Was that your thought? Maybe
Speaker 1: in college?
Speaker 3: I must say we got the worst because when he
Speaker 3: left Michigan State it was so much going on. Nobody
Speaker 3: wanted him there. I remember I used to be one
Speaker 3: of the guys and said, we just beat them. We
Speaker 3: beat them forty five twenty six in the Independence Bowl,
Speaker 3: you know, and it was like, why he's coming to LSU,
Speaker 3: what he's going to bring? Tell you that we that
Speaker 3: we never had place coach Donardo Gary DeNardo Notre Dame, Indiana,
Speaker 3: and he came him in and those first two years
Speaker 3: was hell, complete hell. Eight weeks of off season workouts.
Speaker 3: He ran us to death. I mean, everything was something
Speaker 3: different and it was unique. But at the same time
Speaker 3: he knew what he was doing. But I think at
Speaker 3: the same time he was was going back to the
Speaker 3: drawing board as well, because he had he had that's
Speaker 3: a big opportunity for him.
Speaker 2: Coming from Michigan State.
Speaker 3: He was like a five hundred coach, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: six hundred winning percentage. It wasn't like he was, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was gonna save. He wasna winning big ten championships
Speaker 3: back to back, you know. And then he come to
Speaker 3: l s U and turned the program completely around. And
Speaker 3: you look at him now, seven national championships. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, you know.
Speaker 3: And I know, yeah, and a lot of guys that's
Speaker 3: there with him now, some of those guys with l
Speaker 3: s U back in the day. And I haven't talked
Speaker 3: the same but in a couple of years, but I
Speaker 3: should see him here and there, and you know, we
Speaker 3: we we talked on the phone a couple of times.
Speaker 2: He's the same guy. He's just intense, you know.
Speaker 3: And for the guys to go every year year and
Speaker 3: just to half the success he has.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's doing something phenomenal and it's unique.
Speaker 4: So he left LSU to go to the Dolphins, right,
Speaker 4: were you surprised that he didn't last that long in
Speaker 4: the NFL? Now he chose to leave to go to Alabama.
Speaker 4: He didn't fire Hi in Miami, but he obviously wasn't
Speaker 4: having I mean, it was only there a couple of years.
Speaker 4: Wasn't having championship level success with the Dolphins. Now maybe
Speaker 4: he would have gotten there, but were you surprised that it
Speaker 4: only lasted a couple of years.
Speaker 3: In the NFL, No, he couldn't team those guys, It's
Speaker 3: a whole different world. And to me, that's the difference
Speaker 3: when you okay, save but in Belichick the same person
Speaker 3: to me, and a lot of people can't say that, but.
Speaker 1: You played for both of them. That's kind of why
Speaker 1: he started on the saving trails obviously.
Speaker 3: And and yeah, now if he goes if he had
Speaker 3: to come back to the pros, would he be successful,
Speaker 3: We don't even know. We just don't know, but I
Speaker 3: know his mentality, you know, to college kids, it's a
Speaker 3: lot different, you know, compared to guys in the league
Speaker 3: making you know, the millions of dollars and you're gonna
Speaker 3: have the right you know, approach and philosophy for the
Speaker 3: guys in the NFL. You know, So that's a big
Speaker 3: difference you know between you know, Belichick and and coach Saban.
Speaker 3: But I know over and over again just just what
Speaker 3: he what he wants and what he needs. He get
Speaker 3: it from the players, he get it from the college guys.
Speaker 3: I mean it shows up every year and it's always consistent.
Speaker 3: So that's hard to do.
Speaker 1: So, I mean the obvious question then, Jarvis, is you
Speaker 1: did time with Nick, you know, and you could you
Speaker 1: saw what he did, and you so you bore the
Speaker 1: fruits of his success down at LSU. How did it
Speaker 1: make it easier that you had to go through those
Speaker 1: eight weeks the hell that you described when you came here.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like, you know, of course you got
Speaker 1: a little heads up that they had worked together. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like, Okay, I might be I should be
Speaker 1: able to at least have been through this a little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm one of the guys that Coach Saban destroyed
Speaker 3: my mental capacity of anything because off a few things
Speaker 3: that happened with what we met. And I remember, like
Speaker 3: my first meeting when I went into the office, I
Speaker 3: had blonde hair and all that.
Speaker 2: So when people heard the story before and I remember.
Speaker 1: It was I love the blonde hair story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was like it was like the first now.
Speaker 3: It was the weekend when he came in as the
Speaker 3: head coach, you know, And I remember I said, right side,
Speaker 3: I'm coach Nator. He was a guy who been there
Speaker 3: for forty five years retired. He was like, hey, coach
Speaker 3: wanted to want you to sit right next to him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, for what, I don't want to talk to him,
Speaker 3: you know, And I'm sitting there. And we went out.
Speaker 3: We went at it for like the entire night, and
Speaker 3: then I took the recruit out. We always drinking, having
Speaker 3: a good time. And then they called me and said, hey, coach,
Speaker 3: want to meet you before the big team meeting like
Speaker 3: this the first official team meeting.
Speaker 2: The other shoe. I'm like, god, what does he want?
Speaker 2: I get there?
Speaker 3: He chewed me out for like forty minutes for what
Speaker 3: he was, well, I mean I walked in.
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. I walked into the risks.
Speaker 1: I was like one of the kids.
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I walked into the room and I had my blonde
Speaker 3: hair and he had his back turned. He had the
Speaker 3: little he had the little button thing on the door
Speaker 3: to close the door automatically. Coach Noorlo didn't have that.
Speaker 3: I'm like pretty cool, and he said sit down, his
Speaker 3: back turn looking at the burning Moore Track LSU. That
Speaker 3: was the old Administration building, and he turned around and say,
Speaker 3: do you want to play in the bleep in the NFL?
Speaker 2: I said, hell yeah, coach did take that blonde you
Speaker 2: know out of your hair. I'm like okay.
Speaker 3: And from they just start chewing me out, showing me out,
Speaker 3: and he was just talking about I guess where he
Speaker 3: came from, but he was going back to history, like
Speaker 3: when he coached for.
Speaker 2: The Browns and the Oilers, and he talked about that
Speaker 2: the night before. I'm like, I don't want hear all
Speaker 2: that crap.
Speaker 3: You know, we beat the crap at the Independence Bowl,
Speaker 3: so what you know.
Speaker 2: But after that we had the team meeting. I go
Speaker 2: to the team meeting.
Speaker 3: I dyed my hair back black, you know, walking through,
Speaker 3: And from there it just kind of started. Because a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know I met with Shaping every
Speaker 3: week for two years.
Speaker 1: Every week were your team captain?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he he wanted me to be his inside guy.
Speaker 3: It was more like coach, I'm not going to snitch
Speaker 3: on my guys because you know, it's a different level
Speaker 3: players and coaches. But I'm gonna try to help you
Speaker 3: much as I can, you know, That's it. And the
Speaker 3: thing was, he was just asking me little questions more
Speaker 3: about everybody on the team, and he said it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a transition. He even told me, like, you know,
Speaker 3: if they don't make it, even like I had a
Speaker 3: twin brother named Jason, he was a linebacker. He said,
Speaker 3: some guys are good friends in roommates, they might not
Speaker 3: be here. And I'm like, why what you gonna do?
Speaker 3: You can't cut us, you know. But he did something
Speaker 3: unique and he A lot of guys didn't make it.
Speaker 3: My twin brother was one of them. But when I say,
Speaker 3: in eight weeks, it was like the workouts coach Moffatt
Speaker 3: came back. He's a Louisiana guy. He came from I
Speaker 3: guess Tennessee or Miami wherever he was at the strength coach,
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 2: Put us through.
Speaker 3: I mean, all my years coming up, you know, playing ball,
Speaker 3: I've never went through that type of a reset, you know.
Speaker 3: And I remember one day Ryan Clark said in the game,
Speaker 3: remember that moving on matrix when he said, hey, are
Speaker 3: you really breathing air? You know, And we're sitting there
Speaker 3: and we're like, this is what it's supposed to feel like.
Speaker 2: And from that, so.
Speaker 4: When you came here, then it wasn't much of a
Speaker 4: culture shock, if you will no.
Speaker 2: It in a way, Okay, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: And it was because I had to gain my confidence
Speaker 3: when I got here, because you know, I went off
Speaker 3: into in the left field about saving but it was
Speaker 3: more like he told me something about, hey, you don't
Speaker 3: play fast enough, and I'm like, okay. My first two
Speaker 3: years LSU fifteen sacks, thirty TFLs one hundred, I was,
Speaker 3: but I was gonna declare early my junior year because
Speaker 3: I was like, gonna mel Kiper's top twenty. I was
Speaker 3: gonna declare early. And then that my junior year, we
Speaker 3: came into uh that.
Speaker 2: Two gap defense. That's what That's where it helped me
Speaker 2: when I came here.
Speaker 3: And when I got here, I'm like, damn, it's like
Speaker 3: the same defense I didn't know. You know, before that,
Speaker 3: I used to play book and they started saying Coromea
Speaker 3: was saying this, and I'm like, old I'm reading this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is our defense at LSU, but it's
Speaker 3: old school. It's the old traditional two gap defense. Nobody
Speaker 3: plays that today because it's a hard defense to.
Speaker 2: Play, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 3: So when all that was going on and then just
Speaker 3: things were coming to me and I'm getting my confidence
Speaker 3: and everything Bill philosophy is mentality. It was just like
Speaker 3: Nick Sable. I remember I saying something like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: do everything like Sable and Bill like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I was here first.
Speaker 2: Everything like me.
Speaker 1: Well he worked for him in Cleveland, right, So so
Speaker 1: that had to make your transition, didn't that. I mean, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta get my confidence going on, and now in
Speaker 1: the NFL this is you know, we're getting paid, this
Speaker 1: is legit. But that had to help you, didn't it from.
Speaker 2: A transition to point?
Speaker 3: I mean big time with transition because a lot I mean,
Speaker 3: we know this system is hard on both sides of
Speaker 3: the ball, and a lot of guys that come in,
Speaker 3: I mean they have issues and problems. And I think
Speaker 3: for me, uh, just getting into the system of understanding
Speaker 3: what I what, what I'm supposed to do, that it
Speaker 3: really changed. Because I know if I would have came
Speaker 3: from another program to come here, I don't know what
Speaker 3: doubt come would be.
Speaker 4: Do you think I Mean that's probably a stupid question,
Speaker 4: obvious question, but the relationship between the two is one
Speaker 4: of the reasons.
Speaker 1: You came here.
Speaker 2: Only reason why I came here to meet with the.
Speaker 1: Patriots during the draft pre draft process.
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be a free agent. I mean, so you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna declare early after your first two years A lot
Speaker 4: has changed, Yeah, but when so did switching into the
Speaker 4: two gap system at LSU.
Speaker 1: I hated it, and that drives your stats down.
Speaker 2: I hated it.
Speaker 4: I hated it, And so that is that why you
Speaker 4: felt like your draft stock might.
Speaker 2: I hated it.
Speaker 3: I mean at that point, I'm liking but to get
Speaker 3: out to take care of the family and do this
Speaker 3: and do that. And you know, my mom always said,
Speaker 3: you know, graduate that was like a promise, Like, man,
Speaker 3: I might break that promise. I want to go because
Speaker 3: I remember that. I remember going to my junior year
Speaker 3: Mel Kuiper. I still got the thing. I gotta find
Speaker 3: it somewhere, you know. And then I'm like twentieth pick.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm declaring. And then Saban come in, change
Speaker 3: the defense up. I said, you know what, Sable come in.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play my ball and get out of here
Speaker 3: whatever with him, you know. But then I had a
Speaker 3: high inco Spray and some things changed, the defense change,
Speaker 3: and I was pretty good. I mean I remember running
Speaker 3: a full four five in front of him. He's sitting
Speaker 3: here talking and it was him. Mike Trickett, coach from
Speaker 3: Auburn came. It was just like a lot of guys
Speaker 3: was beefing with the coaches because he's not the guy
Speaker 3: we wanted, you know, because I remember Mark Emmertt when
Speaker 3: he was our chancellor. He's over a C double A.
Speaker 3: Now we all had a meeting. We had to walk
Speaker 3: out on court, Gerardo. It was me and him, Brady James,
Speaker 3: Ryan Clarke, Robert Rawl, all the leaders on the team.
Speaker 3: And I remember Donardo like, you know, I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: all y'all run, you know whatever. We're like, you're about
Speaker 3: to get fired. Man, you can't do nothing. I mean,
Speaker 3: so all that happened. But then when they when they say, hey,
Speaker 3: Nick Saban coming in, everybody was pissed, everybody, not just me.
Speaker 1: Interesting Now he's the greatest college coaches, right, but so
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this with the benefit of time, Jarvis,
Speaker 1: and boy, that was hard. He might have taken money
Speaker 1: out of my pocket because you know, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: two gap. My stats aren't going to be what they were.
Speaker 1: But I got into the NFL. I made it with
Speaker 1: the team. The team had some success. Therefore, it helped
Speaker 1: me get some success. I mean, can you look at
Speaker 1: it now with hindsight and say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't want it at that time, but if
Speaker 1: I look back on it, maybe it might have been
Speaker 1: one of the better things. It helped to get me
Speaker 1: into the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say this too. The two years that
Speaker 3: before Saban came in, we won seven games. That was
Speaker 3: that was a terrible taste, bad smell, however you want
Speaker 3: to want to call it. And when he came in,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say this, he treated us like men
Speaker 3: like this gentleman nick same and it was just like
Speaker 3: even like here, like you don't have Bill running around
Speaker 3: running after people. He gonna let you be an adult
Speaker 3: and you paying for your consequences, you know. Saving was
Speaker 3: the same way. But I mean he was like, you know,
Speaker 3: you do your work for respect, you know. So he
Speaker 3: always just said, don't don't ever be afraid to ask
Speaker 3: a question. You don't know what I'm gonna say until
Speaker 3: until you ask a question.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So he was good to us. We worked hard. That's
Speaker 3: all he wanted, you know. I remember one time he
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I didn't come in the babysitch. I
Speaker 3: didn't come in to be your mom, your dad. I
Speaker 3: didn't come in. I just came in to win football.
Speaker 3: Did you get here that that it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: We get here and you just won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Right The team had just won the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: you're in a unique position as a rookie getting drafted.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I got drafted by the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Chack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I didn't know where where it was at,
Speaker 3: you know. I remember asking, but Chick, I ain't. No.
Speaker 3: I knew the area, but I didn't know like he was.
Speaker 2: Like, you don't. You don't, like he must not studied
Speaker 2: in class like this. I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: But where is like where's the off where's Foxborough? Yes?
Speaker 3: I had no idea, right, you know, but everything that's
Speaker 3: saving the transition coming here, it was everything helped in between.
Speaker 3: But it also just taught me how to be a
Speaker 3: team player, you know, and do your job.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, do you think you
Speaker 1: realized you know, and look at rookie's fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: You know you're swimming upstream for a while. You know
Speaker 1: there's a lot to catch up on. How long did
Speaker 1: it take you to realize when you're looking around the
Speaker 1: huddle and you go, hmm, Willie McGinnis, Richard Seymour, Thy Law,
Speaker 1: even though it's a different position, I mean your position,
Speaker 1: your room was unbelievable. But Ty Law, Teddy Bruski, when
Speaker 1: you looked at what you had there on defense and
Speaker 1: you saw, you know, what you had, did you realize
Speaker 1: these boys are pretty good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? All of them.
Speaker 3: I mean I watched Lloyd Malloy when I was you know,
Speaker 3: when I was in high school. Watched him play in Washington,
Speaker 3: the Huskies and all these guys, and it was it
Speaker 3: was different with Tom because it was Tom, because that
Speaker 3: was that was this his second year when right right,
Speaker 3: So the other guys, I remember, I used to watch
Speaker 3: the Desert Storm Bruski with the fifty two fifty five
Speaker 3: sacks EA c W record. I mean, I watched all
Speaker 3: those guys when I was in high school because I
Speaker 3: remember I wanted to go to Arizona because of Teddy Bruski.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, so so many guys. You see
Speaker 3: him and it's like, Okay, this is not Techmobile anymore.
Speaker 3: These guys are my teammates, you know. And for the
Speaker 3: first year some change, I was like, I didn't belong here.
Speaker 3: And I always go back and I tell people what,
Speaker 3: like the question you asked for me is the FC
Speaker 3: Championship game in two thousand and three when I said,
Speaker 3: this is my team.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going anywhere, you know.
Speaker 3: And I remember that after that game, people all even
Speaker 3: the guys because they was always tough.
Speaker 2: I mean Willie, I've said behind Willie, he bust my
Speaker 2: balls all the time, you know, everybody. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: mean even like Sea Bow.
Speaker 3: I saw him few years ago for the for the
Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame stuff and just seeing him
Speaker 3: and people don't notice me.
Speaker 2: Seymour.
Speaker 3: We used to fuss all the time, but when it
Speaker 3: was time to play ball, we played ball. We was
Speaker 3: great teammates. We respected each other. And I always tell
Speaker 3: people I never wanted his job. I just want to
Speaker 3: be a part of what we had. A team. You know,
Speaker 3: that's a team. And we was never a team that
Speaker 3: you didn't have one guy making all of plays.
Speaker 2: Everybody made plays. Everybody did their job.
Speaker 1: So just to interject here for a second brand for
Speaker 1: younger Patriot fans that might not remember. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that defensive line three oh four. Okay, Richard seymour Ty, Warren,
Speaker 1: Ted Washington was only there for one year, Okay, but
Speaker 1: then a rookie came in and oh four named Vince Wilfork,
Speaker 1: Jarvis Green. You know, we see Bobby Hamilton, Bobby Well Hamilton,
Speaker 1: you know, only in that first couple of years. But
Speaker 1: we sit here today and we think about Chiefs, the
Speaker 1: Patriots needs some help on the defensive line. How was
Speaker 1: that defensive line during those years? You guys were loaded loaded.
Speaker 3: I mean even even after Ted was gone, Anthony Player
Speaker 3: and Bobby gone, I mean, we were still I meant.
Speaker 4: Listen, we had to go get Ted because the failed
Speaker 4: nose tackle experiment that summer.
Speaker 2: That was me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, Bill, like we've been taking care for him
Speaker 1: at nose tick.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what when I walked in, I'm like, he
Speaker 3: talked about this in all season nose im Okay, great,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get damniar Woody. I couldn't even get
Speaker 3: around to the middle the day. I couldn't get around
Speaker 3: Woody like, come on, man, I was like.
Speaker 2: Three O five, three ten, never in my life.
Speaker 1: And then I asked Ted Johnson about Ted Washington.
Speaker 4: He says, I could show a movie on that guy's
Speaker 4: butt when I'm standing behind that question.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 3: That was That was I look, I'm in my second year.
Speaker 3: And and Bill called me like the night before and
Speaker 3: he didn't have to. I meant nothing, nothing, And he
Speaker 3: was like, hey, look, you know she was out of respect.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think he did it because of
Speaker 3: saving just a relationship, I think. And he was like, hey,
Speaker 3: bringing to Ted Washington, I'm like you like he said,
Speaker 3: get back down to you two eighty. I was like
Speaker 3: three ten. I lost that way so quick.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, well, but you must have come in
Speaker 4: like I mean, you talked about having some confidence in
Speaker 4: the fact that you had played in the defense, but you.
Speaker 1: Also playing that two gap scheme.
Speaker 4: Is a technique thing as well, and you must have
Speaker 4: felt comfortable or they must have felt comfortable enough with
Speaker 4: you even to even try you at nose tackle because
Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, because you knew how to play that defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did.
Speaker 3: And also just I think just being coachable, you know,
Speaker 3: just understanding my my, my duties because a lot of defenses.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of time you see things that
Speaker 3: happen and play bus or something because people get a
Speaker 3: little edgy and try to make the play. But like
Speaker 3: you know, like like bella Chick and everybody else always like,
Speaker 3: if it's not your play, it's not your play. No,
Speaker 3: it's gonna come to you.
Speaker 2: Do your just it. And he'd been saying that for
Speaker 2: years before they start putting on T shirt. We're like, man,
Speaker 2: who the hell? Oh you know, you know anyway, it
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: I was in that meeting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, do your job, do your job. That
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 1: We have my Super Bowl thirty nine saying it out
Speaker 1: inside blinds. But so it's not sexy, Jarvis. It's not sexy,
Speaker 1: and it's very It goes against what a defensive players
Speaker 1: instincts are, which are to attack, to pursuit and all
Speaker 1: those things and then foot gaps. Yeah, and for you
Speaker 1: to just sit there and take up space, that's really
Speaker 1: hard to do. And I say that because as you're
Speaker 1: talking and you mentioned Seymour, okay, and we fostered everything,
Speaker 1: but great teammates, you know, In about two weeks, Richard
Speaker 1: Seymour is gonna find out for the third time whether he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna get it.
Speaker 1: Could give give tell people why Richard Seymour is worthy
Speaker 1: of being in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: They have teams that that excel and win and kick
Speaker 3: people butts. You know, through the history of any sports,
Speaker 3: if you have performers on that team, go down to
Speaker 3: the individuals, because that's what the Hall of Fame is about.
Speaker 3: It's about an individual excellent uh with great with great teams.
Speaker 3: And Richard is one of those guys. When not win
Speaker 3: the Patriots from that time, those years, those streaker years,
Speaker 3: nobody was running past Richard. He destroyed everybody that he
Speaker 3: line up against. Yeah, he didn't have twenty sax season.
Speaker 3: We ran a three to four defense, you know, but
Speaker 3: he excelled and he was an anchor in that defense
Speaker 3: and that success because those years going those eight nine
Speaker 3: years he played, our defense was very stingy and tough.
Speaker 1: There was a there's a comment that I saw BEMO
Speaker 1: the other day, and the person who made it said,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna think I'm crazy, but there was
Speaker 1: a time in that two thousand and around two thousand
Speaker 1: and four when you guys are going for you know,
Speaker 1: back to back championships where you could look at the
Speaker 1: team and I don't want to I'm not taking anything
Speaker 1: away from Tom. Tom's the greatest has ever played. But
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four you could actually maybe have
Speaker 1: a debate who was the best player on the team.
Speaker 1: And now we look at it and go, oh, it's
Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Everything like that.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, in two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: you might have had an argument in two thousand and
Speaker 1: four as to who the best player was. That's not
Speaker 1: an outlandis statement, is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, man, I mean a def I mean, look, definitely,
Speaker 3: when championships, I don't care what people say, you know,
Speaker 3: and I have defenses that you could just put that
Speaker 3: in a question or a sentence. I mean, Richard Seymour
Speaker 3: deserved to be in the Hall of Fame when we
Speaker 3: was kicking everybody, but he was right down the front line.
Speaker 3: You know, he deserved it, every bit of it.
Speaker 4: So let me go back then, because Richard comes here
Speaker 4: in one and arguably, I mean I remember people saying
Speaker 4: at the Super Bowl that year that he was the
Speaker 4: best defensive player on the field for both teams as
Speaker 4: a rookie.
Speaker 1: You come in and O two, so you sandwich the
Speaker 1: one team wins the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Your second year team wins the Super Bowl three oh two.
Speaker 4: You guys couldn't stop the run. Do you remember, Like
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, the personnel was a little different.
Speaker 4: Brandon Mitchell left, not that he was a superstar player,
Speaker 4: but what's his name came in?
Speaker 1: The guy, uh what was the defensive lineman that was
Speaker 1: playing the nose? And O two a free agent. He
Speaker 1: was here for one year.
Speaker 2: Oh talking about.
Speaker 1: He was he talked all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah he uh, he had the big old, big old,
Speaker 3: big old ahead.
Speaker 1: But but you guys, you guys really struggled stopping the run.
Speaker 4: Do you remember why what went into it? Because the
Speaker 4: next year it wasn't a problem. The previous year it
Speaker 4: wasn't a problem, but that year it was and that
Speaker 4: was your rookie year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was the hype from from
Speaker 3: from winning, you know, and and being that first taste.
Speaker 3: And I think some people probably got a lax you know,
Speaker 3: And I think they had to they had to happen,
Speaker 3: It had to.
Speaker 2: That was just the time.
Speaker 1: And you know, you mentioned the maning game, Jarvis, When
Speaker 1: you look back at your career, you played in a
Speaker 1: lot of big games, a lot of important games. Is
Speaker 1: that the game that you kind of point to and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, that was? My game lived there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was all twelve cylinders and playing and understand you know,
Speaker 3: like any given Sunday, I mean I had that moment.
Speaker 3: Everything was fast, couldn't hear, couldn't you know, you know,
Speaker 3: stomach shaky, butterflies going crazy, and and then everything like
Speaker 3: just slowed down because I remember times like when Raybel
Speaker 3: and myself we got on the field, and even some
Speaker 3: other guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, reading lips was big for us.
Speaker 3: Just reading lips and just knowing and knowing the players
Speaker 3: and understanding the audibles, understanding the checkdowns, understanding what you're
Speaker 3: the guy next, thing you're going to do, Understand the
Speaker 3: guy behind you know what you're gonna do. So for me,
Speaker 3: everything came together on the field. But then, well I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say this too. This is one thing I always
Speaker 3: tell people. I remember the first year and a half,
Speaker 3: every game I was getting six or seven mental errors
Speaker 3: every game, and after that that AFC Championship game, I
Speaker 3: was probably average six month eras of a season sixteen games,
Speaker 3: you know, and that's all confidence, all confidence.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Do you think, speaking of confidence, do you
Speaker 1: think in those early years that you had Peyton's number,
Speaker 1: that the Patrin Peyton's Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did too. Yeah, I used to call him
Speaker 3: all the time. But uh, it was just that time,
Speaker 3: you know, we we had it. I mean, but then
Speaker 3: people said, so what happened at your game? Playing him different?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: It just he just he couldn't excel with us. I remember,
Speaker 3: I remember when the game when he when when they
Speaker 3: beat us. You know, we went to Indy. I think
Speaker 3: we all had a bug.
Speaker 1: That so you you were, you beat San Diego in
Speaker 1: the divisional round and then we.
Speaker 2: Should have three and a half time we should have went.
Speaker 3: I remember when to halftime and our phones was blowing up,
Speaker 3: and Bill like cut phones off and we were like, okay,
Speaker 3: back to back to back.
Speaker 2: That was the year and would have made history.
Speaker 1: Right, No, you're confusing years. You're thinking of five.
Speaker 2: Okay, we would have.
Speaker 3: We would have did three of four, crack right, three
Speaker 3: out of four and or four out of five.
Speaker 1: It would have been four to six.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. We had guys cramping up
Speaker 3: in the first quarter. I mean, I've never cramped up.
Speaker 3: I'm always hydrid. I cramped up. I'm like, what is
Speaker 3: going on? And after that, I don't know, somebody, somebody
Speaker 3: did something because the team we watched a film.
Speaker 2: We all looked so fluggish and nobody, nobody knows.
Speaker 3: We lost like eight guys cramped up, you know, is
Speaker 3: it because they raised the timbership of an extra ten degrees?
Speaker 1: Colts would have done that indoors pumped in.
Speaker 2: But that was a crazy that was that was crazy, man.
Speaker 3: But I know, just just the confidence and playing and
Speaker 3: know I belong here, and just I mean I was whatever.
Speaker 3: I was third down guy, whatever I could play, I
Speaker 3: played when they needed me.
Speaker 1: So you go from the high in the confidence of
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was the low not being able to get
Speaker 1: Eli down.
Speaker 2: I guess we got cheated.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, well, I mean, isn't the famous picture
Speaker 1: don't they have Seymour around the neck.
Speaker 3: And then I'm kind of dragging because when that play happened,
Speaker 3: I was like one of the longest players ever for
Speaker 3: the entire year.
Speaker 2: But I mean the entire game, they was holding, grabbing, choking, pulling, I.
Speaker 3: See some of the guys just today they were like,
Speaker 3: it was holding off so much and we missed five
Speaker 3: interceptions from Eli right through our hands. Uh maybe it
Speaker 3: was blown coverage. I really don't know what happened in
Speaker 3: the second there. I have no idea, but it's like
Speaker 3: he should have been sacked. They would have sacked today.
Speaker 3: He would have got sacked. You know, it's flag football today.
Speaker 3: But but I mean, he got through the back of
Speaker 3: the huddle and everything just like stopped.
Speaker 1: And there was a really interesting thing done fairly quickly
Speaker 1: after that oh seven season where Mike carried Do you
Speaker 1: remember Mike the head referee of the game, and oh
Speaker 1: you remember that? Yeah, and he was he was one
Speaker 1: with Rodney and you know, Rodney's still sick of it,
Speaker 1: can you know, barely stomach it even today. And they
Speaker 1: showed they had the all twenty two, and they showed
Speaker 1: Carrie and they showed the play and you see you
Speaker 1: guys engulf Eli and Carrie was talking about it. He
Speaker 1: sprints up to the pocket where Eli is ready to
Speaker 1: blow the play dead, and he didn't, and he hesitated.
Speaker 1: That's when Eli kind of peeled out. But you see,
Speaker 1: you can see Carrie like run ten yards up to
Speaker 1: like he's in the grass. We got to blow it dead,
Speaker 1: and he didn't blow it.
Speaker 3: And then watching all the games, like when he got
Speaker 3: sacked and I remember Pep, of course Pepper.
Speaker 2: He was like, look at this guy.
Speaker 3: He get touchy fall, you know, so we're like, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be easy to get him down. He's not like a fighter.
Speaker 3: He's not a been Rossenberger, you know. And I still
Speaker 3: can't say been name, right, I don't if I can
Speaker 3: say that right, And uh, it just didn't make sense.
Speaker 3: But again, he was playing for a lot of money
Speaker 3: too if he won that game, so I can understand motivationists,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: But it's the Super Bowl. In Super Bowl, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: final drive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that would have been That would have
Speaker 2: been it, though, That would have been the game.
Speaker 1: Well, and a guy with four catches on the season
Speaker 1: catches the ball on his head too.
Speaker 3: Nobody expected that, right, It's just that that was incomplete
Speaker 3: think it was no.
Speaker 1: No try, though, good try. I wish it was. Listen,
Speaker 1: we had a nineteen and o exhbit planned out for
Speaker 1: the museum. I just you know that we didn't get
Speaker 1: to build.
Speaker 2: So it's like It's like, you know, you say, where
Speaker 2: are they now? That would have happened? You know what
Speaker 2: that would have done.
Speaker 3: I mean after that, after that run, people like this
Speaker 3: will never happen again.
Speaker 2: New England is done. Great, great, great, great success.
Speaker 3: But I mean, golly, after that to watch the games
Speaker 3: and to be a fan now and just watch like again,
Speaker 3: you know, another super Bowl, another super Bowl. So for me,
Speaker 3: everybody hates me back home, everybody.
Speaker 1: But for you does it. It's got to be with
Speaker 1: the sense of pride that you look back. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: you had, Yeah, you want it twice. You maybe should
Speaker 1: have wanted a third time. Although hey, look the Giants
Speaker 1: get paid two and they played well that day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but to see how the franchise did even after you
Speaker 1: were left, it's got to be with a sense of
Speaker 1: pride that you were you were part of maybe the
Speaker 1: ground floor, maybe not the ground floor pretty early on.
Speaker 1: And to see this twenty year success has got to.
Speaker 3: Be definitely I think definitely, man, I mean just to
Speaker 3: be part of it. And though I tell people to
Speaker 3: like the alumni guys the other not me, not the
Speaker 3: Patriot alone, but other teams. I mean, everybody envy the Patriots,
Speaker 3: just the way they do things, I mean for us,
Speaker 3: like being an alumni to come back and all the
Speaker 3: stuff that they do for us, and just to be
Speaker 3: a part of it, you know. I mean everybody, we
Speaker 3: bleed it. We leave, were still bleeding. We're still bleeding,
Speaker 3: you know, the Patriots colors, you know, So just to
Speaker 3: see it and just to smell it, to hear it,
Speaker 3: it's a wild factor every time. I mean I did
Speaker 3: an interview with some magazine. I was talking about when
Speaker 3: when when I got When I got, When I went
Speaker 3: to Denver, A lot of stuff happened in between, you know,
Speaker 3: Bill and myself agent, and it was so much and
Speaker 3: it was like I had a bad.
Speaker 2: Taste in my mouth. I said, I never want to
Speaker 2: come here again.
Speaker 3: And then I remember going to the Saints game and
Speaker 3: they had me on a jumper tron for a few
Speaker 3: seconds and my phone blew up because stay had everybody's numbers,
Speaker 3: you know, phone blew up and some media stuff and
Speaker 3: then somebody, I don't know if it was Pepper or
Speaker 3: Bears told me to come to the facility. I'm like,
Speaker 3: for what, And I get it here first person myself
Speaker 3: was time. Then I saw Bill, you know, dry face,
Speaker 3: We talking. You know, it was more like the passes
Speaker 3: behind us and move forward. And I remember leaving the
Speaker 3: facility crying. After I went, he told me to come
Speaker 3: into the coaches room and I met all the coaches.
Speaker 2: The ones I didn't know, I handshake the ones I knew.
Speaker 3: I bear hug them, and just so emotional that moment.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys they don't experience that from other teams.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys don't. We have so much success
Speaker 3: here and eight years for me, it was like a lifetime,
Speaker 3: you know, and still to this day to be here
Speaker 3: talking about the past is like is like the president
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: Well, you're in business now, Okay, you're a businessman, You're
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and so you know it. You know, Bill famously,
Speaker 1: this is a business and there are times that things happen.
Speaker 1: You mentioned lawyer. You know, lawyer goes. It's a business decision.
Speaker 1: But but if you can get past that, and who
Speaker 1: am I to sit here and talk about whether you
Speaker 1: ken or can't because you said hard feelings and I
Speaker 1: get that, But I think Bill to say that he
Speaker 1: appreciates what you guys did and what you accomplished, I
Speaker 1: think as a grotesque understatement. You're always family. You're always
Speaker 1: going to be family to him, and I'm tardless of
Speaker 1: how it ends. And I tell people he's a player's coach, right.
Speaker 4: He may not appear that way publicly, but he takes
Speaker 4: care of his guys.
Speaker 3: I remember I went to Denver. They ran me into
Speaker 3: the dirt, and I'm like, I tell guys, look, man,
Speaker 3: you're a free agent. Just think about it, you know.
Speaker 3: If you hear, just really think about what you do.
Speaker 3: You know, because from from Bill to the cafeteria, training room,
Speaker 3: the equipment room, the weight room, everybody takes care of everybody,
Speaker 3: you know, and you missed that when you go to
Speaker 3: other programs and did they treatse like a number here?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, So that's that's priceless, especially when it comes to
Speaker 3: physical you know, and mental aspect of everything.
Speaker 1: You know well, and I think, you know, we talk
Speaker 1: about this all the time.
Speaker 4: I look historically at the league, Jarvis, with teams that
Speaker 4: have good ownership generally don't stay down long. The Steelers
Speaker 4: are always a great example of a team. They may
Speaker 4: dip if they come, whereas the teams that maybe don't
Speaker 4: have great ownership to show they may spike, but they
Speaker 4: don't stay there.
Speaker 1: They go the other way.
Speaker 2: Not consistent. I agree.
Speaker 4: So I think you know the fact that when Bill
Speaker 4: came in here and especially when July Stadium was built
Speaker 4: because the old place, you know, you didn't play in
Speaker 4: that old high school stadium that they played in, but
Speaker 4: the but the amenatees and everything they need to be
Speaker 4: successful is put in place. And that's because Bill wanted
Speaker 4: to make sure everything was in place to be successful,
Speaker 4: and then Robert gave him that.
Speaker 1: So it starts, I think, at the top.
Speaker 4: And you know, then Bill builds the culture with those things,
Speaker 4: those tools in place.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean that's priceless, hands down off everything,
Speaker 3: you know, So just being here and just understanding the
Speaker 3: little things.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this because.
Speaker 4: Alan the tight end that was here a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago, Dwayne Allen, he was over at the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame speaking to the fans one time and he said,
Speaker 4: and I think I've asked somebody else about this, but
Speaker 4: he was talking about when he was in Indianapolis. They
Speaker 4: came here for the AFC Championship, lost forty five to seven,
Speaker 4: and he thought they were going to win the game.
Speaker 1: Like he thought, where every bit is good if not
Speaker 1: better than the Patriots. And he goes and they blew
Speaker 1: us out.
Speaker 4: He goes, And I left the stadium that day thinking
Speaker 4: how did that happen? And when I signed here, I
Speaker 4: realized how it happened. That they just work harder than
Speaker 4: everybody else.
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
Speaker 4: They just work harder than everybody else. Do you think
Speaker 4: that's true? So what did you how do you compare
Speaker 4: it to what happened in Denver? Who was your coach
Speaker 4: in Denver?
Speaker 2: Josh? So, Josh got the program him in here.
Speaker 1: But but Josh didn't bring that element out there.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, You know what it takes time
Speaker 3: to as well. You gotta you gotta grow a flower,
Speaker 3: you gotta water it. You know, you gotta take care
Speaker 3: of it, you gotta nurture it. And I think what
Speaker 3: he got there? People looking for quick success. And I
Speaker 3: remember when I got Oh my goodness, it was like
Speaker 3: it was like hell on wheels.
Speaker 2: I got there. And I'm gonna say this too.
Speaker 3: If you if you just a coach and not a
Speaker 3: GM coach, it's like it's like night and day on
Speaker 3: what you can do?
Speaker 2: What you can do?
Speaker 3: Denver hates Patriots. Patriots staff period. It's personal personal. Everything
Speaker 3: I did from the training even the cafeteria. People hate this,
Speaker 3: but but but the strength coach, I don't. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say any names. But when I went there, I
Speaker 3: remember telling telling my kids Mom, I think I made
Speaker 3: a bad decision. It was before the season started terrible,
Speaker 3: and they knew I had my situation with my knee,
Speaker 3: my back and all. They ran me into the dirt
Speaker 3: and they knew this. And I remember I'm sitting there
Speaker 3: talking to the strength coach. He got me on the squat,
Speaker 3: three plates, three plates on both sides. I said, coach,
Speaker 3: I have not squatted in eight years because of my back.
Speaker 3: I do bear squats, I do bullet squats on Nagas squats.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, drop you whatever. I'm not tough.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: He come from the Patriots. No y'all betting everybody. It's
Speaker 3: a strength coach. And I'm like, hey, go talk to
Speaker 3: the strength coach. He had New England.
Speaker 2: He'll tell you.
Speaker 3: He'd give my whole He didn't. He didn't get you
Speaker 3: the paperwork. Then they put the sin all my stuff,
Speaker 3: Like who is that? I said, you know who that is?
Speaker 3: He got six Super Bowl rings so that was my
Speaker 3: attire six months at Denver.
Speaker 2: It was terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think i'd like to think that that's
Speaker 1: Josh's first experience and.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean he had no control.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, but see, I would say this, and
Speaker 4: I think you see this and you know, builded it
Speaker 4: to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: I mean, certain guys stayed. But when you go into
Speaker 1: a situation.
Speaker 4: Like that, you have to be able to get rid
Speaker 4: of everybody yep and bring your own people in yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Just like the President knew Bien he bring all these
Speaker 3: people in. OHI you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Right, yep. Last one for me here, Jarvis. You know,
Speaker 1: I think this was to say that this was an
Speaker 1: unusual year for Patriot fans would be an understatement. They've
Speaker 1: been spoiled, quite honestly. With twenty years of success, they
Speaker 1: dip down, you know, and things like that. You talked
Speaker 1: about ownership being on the same page, coaching being on
Speaker 1: the same page, and everything like that. My guess is
Speaker 1: that you're pretty confident in the infrastructure here that it
Speaker 1: was a blip on the Raiders screen, but there's not
Speaker 1: anybody better that you'd want to try to turn this
Speaker 1: team around. And Bill Belichick, would that be fair?
Speaker 2: I mean, who else you're gonna bring over here? Hm?
Speaker 2: That has the experience?
Speaker 3: Let me?
Speaker 2: I mean, let's bring a new guy to college over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It work intill we trust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it and Bill, we trust.
Speaker 4: Hey, you mentioned you mentioned how they hated you. They
Speaker 4: hate you down and back home for being for being
Speaker 4: a Patriot? Is it a respect hate? I always called it.
Speaker 2: A respect definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They just hate that you won. Somebody won, That's why
Speaker 1: they hate.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look I had my times with everywhere I
Speaker 3: go and then oh, the winner he shows up, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh you get the other stuff about some of the
Speaker 3: seasons when we had the fines and all, and they
Speaker 3: bring that up about Okay, you know we won, so
Speaker 3: what but people don't understand. So yeah, but we gotta
Speaker 3: still play the game, and we a lot of times
Speaker 3: you hear about Pittsburgh by being physical.
Speaker 2: The years I played, we was very, very very physical.
Speaker 3: We should beat people down physically, you know, we want
Speaker 3: a fast team. Now that one year we had fifty touchdowns,
Speaker 3: y'all got to play a better defense. I'm sorry, you know,
Speaker 3: but we was physical and I remember sometimes when we
Speaker 3: couldn't run us. We couldn't run like a like a
Speaker 3: blitz of stunt and Bill like or Romeo, y'all can't
Speaker 3: run to play, We're gonna go three four based defense.
Speaker 3: We hate three four based defense, but three four based
Speaker 3: defense mean eighty five eighty percent of the guys have
Speaker 3: to win the battle. But it's it's terrible. It's the
Speaker 3: base defense. You play that in the seventh grade, you know,
Speaker 3: we want to run around stunts and call games. And
Speaker 3: the Bill said until you running out, I mean till
Speaker 3: you run it right or correct. We're gonna start doing that,
Speaker 3: you know. So, But it was fun times because I remember,
Speaker 3: but I mean Brusk used to come over to the huddle.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, guys, we have a new play.
Speaker 3: Three four defense base and we did that a bunch
Speaker 3: of times, and we did it well.
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