Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod meets World. We are doing a very
Speaker 1: special episode of Questions and Answers because you guys have
Speaker 1: been so thoughtful and sending us in your questions to
Speaker 1: Pod meets World show at gmail dot com. And so
Speaker 1: let's jump into it. Is So, who came up with
Speaker 1: the name to Panga? Great question and is a mystery
Speaker 1: of the show as far as who I asked, Well,
Speaker 1: but the correct answer is, uh, it's this name of
Speaker 1: a canyon and a street right inspired by Yeah. But
Speaker 1: the idea is that that used to be like a
Speaker 1: big hippie new age hangout. It still is kind of right,
Speaker 1: So it's like a very sort of backwoodsy part of
Speaker 1: of of l A. So it made sense, you know.
Speaker 1: But Yeah. Michael Jacobs tells one story, which is that
Speaker 1: he did it while driving Yeah, that someone from someone
Speaker 1: called him to say, we need a name for this character.
Speaker 1: And he happened to be on the one oh one
Speaker 1: freeway at the Topanga Canyon exit, and he looked up
Speaker 1: and he said, to Panga, I called I called on that.
Speaker 1: There's no way the convenience of the road and the road.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just a good story. It's a funny story.
Speaker 1: If his his his joke, he always says. And if
Speaker 1: they had called five minutes earlier, her name would have
Speaker 1: been white Oak. Oh, I heard, I heard if they
Speaker 1: had called, I've heard if they had called two minutes,
Speaker 1: two minutes earlier, she would have been to Soto. Okay,
Speaker 1: So he's which are the row all the we just
Speaker 1: named all the exits in a row people exactly. But
Speaker 1: this is a comedy writer, so that I've heard Jeff Sherman,
Speaker 1: I've heard Michael Jacobs, I've heard now Bill Lawrence, Bill
Speaker 1: Lawrence because to Panga Lawrence. So Bill Lawrence told me
Speaker 1: that his Panga's last name was Lawrence because of him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yet I quite work out as far as when
Speaker 1: he did write an episode of our of Our of
Speaker 1: our first season, but um, it seems like Tanga was
Speaker 1: already introduced by the time his script made an end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about that her last name might not have
Speaker 1: been introduced Lawrence in my episode. That's right. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: that is so so we don't know, it really is. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's a mystery. It's it's um of my goals for
Speaker 1: the podcast. If I had to pick five of them
Speaker 1: on that list, would be to find out who named
Speaker 1: to Panga wants and like get the get the story.
Speaker 1: I would love to know because I've never never fully known. Um.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a really funny question. Did you
Speaker 1: guys have strict bedtimes when you were a kid? Filming
Speaker 1: a TV show? That's so interesting. I've thought about this
Speaker 1: actually a lot, because I have I have a pretty
Speaker 1: consistent bedtime with my kid, Like we're not super strict,
Speaker 1: so if like friends are over going late, we go late.
Speaker 1: But I've ever since he was born my wife, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like he goes to bed at this time,
Speaker 1: he takes a nap at this time, and we tried
Speaker 1: to be this regular responsib and I realized like my
Speaker 1: parents had no bedtimes my entire childhood. I would live
Speaker 1: and I do remember falling to sleep everywhere, like I
Speaker 1: would just fall asleep in my shoes on there and
Speaker 1: so exhausting. As a parent, I can't believe they did that, Like, well,
Speaker 1: we just go and go and go until we pass out.
Speaker 1: And I've never had a problem sleeping, so I guess
Speaker 1: it was fine for me, like mental health wise or
Speaker 1: sleep scheduling wise, but as a parent, like I cherished
Speaker 1: the time my son goes to bed and my wife
Speaker 1: and I can like have a drink or watch a
Speaker 1: movie or just talk without a child there. It's like
Speaker 1: so essential to have, even if it's a half an
Speaker 1: hour of like grown up time. So I can't believe
Speaker 1: my parents and never did that. So yeah, I never
Speaker 1: had bed times my entire childhood. Well, I know you
Speaker 1: were a little older and living with like a legal
Speaker 1: guardian in l A. So you didn't I'm assuming you
Speaker 1: did not have a bed time. I did not. I
Speaker 1: had a bed time growing up the entire time, and
Speaker 1: it was an early bedtime, to the point where literally
Speaker 1: back East, I would be lying in my bed trying
Speaker 1: to sleep while it was still light out and I
Speaker 1: could hear the kids playing in the street. Thank you dad,
Speaker 1: What time was it, Oh, it was probably like seven thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sound like He's always like, Dad, it's still light And
Speaker 1: I'm like, because it's June, yeah exactly, but your kid,
Speaker 1: that's always window. You'd hear out your window. They're like,
Speaker 1: this is the most fun I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1: So it's like stuff. But no, by the time we
Speaker 1: started the show, I was I was essentially living on
Speaker 1: my own yeah, yeah, I don't think I had a
Speaker 1: strict bedtime, but it did, like I did have a
Speaker 1: thing where it was like, okay, it's time for bed,
Speaker 1: Now you have to go up to your room. I
Speaker 1: don't think they monitored whether or not I was like
Speaker 1: listening to music or you know, I had headphones like
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I don't think they were like make sure
Speaker 1: you're asleep. Also, it really depended on what was going
Speaker 1: on that week, because as you guys have heard, for
Speaker 1: the first season, for at least several of the episode,
Speaker 1: my mom was braiding my hair, um, and I was
Speaker 1: not able to go to sleep until like eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: because I had I had hair braiding to have done. Um.
Speaker 1: And then obviously there were times too where in those
Speaker 1: in that first season where I was still terrified of
Speaker 1: losing my job and so I was like rehearsing my
Speaker 1: lines and I still had homework, you know, like we
Speaker 1: get three hours of school per day on the set,
Speaker 1: but that didn't mean that I still didn't come home
Speaker 1: with schoolwork to do. And because I did go back
Speaker 1: to my regular school on our hiatus weeks, and as
Speaker 1: we've discussed, our schedules started on a Friday, which means
Speaker 1: when we had a hiatus week, it started on a Friday,
Speaker 1: and I would go back to Calabasas High School on Friday,
Speaker 1: which meant to the day I had to be caught
Speaker 1: up with all of my classes. If it was a test,
Speaker 1: I had to take that test. If it was like
Speaker 1: homework was turned in, I had to turn in that homework.
Speaker 1: So I don't remember there being like a strict bed time,
Speaker 1: but there was definitely like you need to go to
Speaker 1: your room now to go to bed, and then closed
Speaker 1: the door. Calm down. Yeah, time to calm down and
Speaker 1: also give my parents exactly what you're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: As a parent, I am so um not strict. I'm
Speaker 1: flexible with the schedule. Like you said, if people are over,
Speaker 1: Adler goes to bed a little bit later. Um. If
Speaker 1: you know, if we have something going on that day,
Speaker 1: that's big, Adler won't take a nap that day like
Speaker 1: and he thankfully is flexible and can adjust with that.
Speaker 1: But I live for that moment that it's seven thirty
Speaker 1: and I think now is the time where I can
Speaker 1: put you in your room and unlike you guys, with
Speaker 1: the you can still hear kids playing outside and it's
Speaker 1: light outside. My kids sleep in pitch black windows blacked out,
Speaker 1: and very loud white noise. They can't hear anything and
Speaker 1: they can't see anything. It's it's two o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning if you're in my kid's room, no matter what.
Speaker 1: So and now I sleep with a bunch of white
Speaker 1: noise too, because now I've gotten used to it. Um
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Speaker 1: I loved this question too. Why in the world were
Speaker 1: the monkeys on the show? I think the proper answer
Speaker 1: is why not? Yeah, yeah, Jeff Sherman was friends with
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Sherman, who was one of our writer producers.
Speaker 1: His I think is one of his closest longest, closest
Speaker 1: friends is Mickey Dolan's, who was obviously one of the
Speaker 1: members of the Monkeys. So when you're when you're in
Speaker 1: with one monkey, you're in with all the monkeys, as
Speaker 1: they say, and uh, they were all on except for
Speaker 1: Mike Nesmis, who then came to if I if I
Speaker 1: understood the story, um, the episode where so they came
Speaker 1: on first sporadically where I think in the first season,
Speaker 1: Rusty's old band comes back and um, Peter Tork comes
Speaker 1: on for the first time ever. Um, And he was
Speaker 1: the first. Peter was Peter Tork was my dad, but
Speaker 1: he started as a guest cast on. Boy he did
Speaker 1: not start did he start his Jedediah? Was he always
Speaker 1: your dad? I well know I had three dads, but
Speaker 1: but I think he was the first. I don't and
Speaker 1: I don't think he was the He was on first
Speaker 1: as part of the band and then also my dad. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty sure. So so somebody has to check
Speaker 1: this out. I could be wrongs. Again, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: this firm. Are you talking about when they played Chubbies. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's when all the monkeys came on, who never might
Speaker 1: do anything. Smith never came on, but he showed up
Speaker 1: to the taping and then wanted to be put in
Speaker 1: and Michael was like, well, we can't now put you in,
Speaker 1: like we're literally taping. Where did you hear that story?
Speaker 1: Do you remember him being there? Oh? Yeah, Oh no,
Speaker 1: I know he was there. I spoke with him. I
Speaker 1: actually actually talked to him. Yeah, you know, he was
Speaker 1: there with a big bushy beard and a hat. Um
Speaker 1: and apparently asked too. He's like, he saw everybody there.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, so I'll go I guess I'll
Speaker 1: go on. And Michael's like, well, now we can't can't
Speaker 1: do that. Um. So no, he was there. No. We
Speaker 1: did an episode where Rusty was in a band and
Speaker 1: his old band was getting back together and it was, um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the man's name, the guitarist from Cheap Trick.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was one of them? Um, I want to
Speaker 1: say one of the monkeys was? I thought Peter Tork
Speaker 1: was in the band. Um, I have no recollection to this.
Speaker 1: So and and so it's like Rusty picks up his guitar.
Speaker 1: Get because one of the reasons I remember Nielsen is
Speaker 1: that okay, so the tag is then Rusty hands Eric
Speaker 1: the guitar and says, here, what can you do with this?
Speaker 1: And they plays amazing that. Yeah, so that was that that.
Speaker 1: I want to say, Peter Tork so what it was
Speaker 1: because he comes on. He came on a couple of times,
Speaker 1: but maybe he was always Jedediah, but I thought he
Speaker 1: jammed with Rusty's band or something like that. I thought
Speaker 1: that was the first time. We'll know when we get
Speaker 1: to it, and I don't because I don't remember that,
Speaker 1: but I guess the real the short answer to the
Speaker 1: question is Jeff Sherman, one of our writers and producers,
Speaker 1: was very close with Mickey Dolan, and then Mickey came
Speaker 1: on and directed an episode which wasn't that first episode
Speaker 1: that they were on until seasons like season seven. Yes, really,
Speaker 1: the one with the I'll never forget that, the one
Speaker 1: with the B the brain and the jar and a B.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't there. I must season the episode.
Speaker 1: Think for a number of reasons, we've blocked that episode out. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that four years from now, four years
Speaker 1: from now, when we get there. Okay, Um, there were
Speaker 1: a lot of wrestlers on Boy Meats World. What was
Speaker 1: the connection there? And I can safely say that was
Speaker 1: Mark Bluman? Is that what it was? Was Mark? Ye?
Speaker 1: As far as I understand he did. He when he
Speaker 1: started to stand up in Canada, one of his main
Speaker 1: bits was to be a wrestler character like he would
Speaker 1: have he create. Right, isn't that a Daniel? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: so because he became sort of popular within comedy circles
Speaker 1: as a like wrestler comedian and he also character very
Speaker 1: into wrestling. He liked it, he knew a lot about it,
Speaker 1: he followed it. He's been a wrestling fan for most
Speaker 1: of his life. I did not know that that was
Speaker 1: the connection of wrestling. Interesting. We had some awesome, incredibly
Speaker 1: nice men on the show that were wrestlers, I mean
Speaker 1: Vader and Nick Foley. I still see Mick Um and
Speaker 1: he still comes over and throws his arm around me
Speaker 1: and puts me in a headlock every time I see him. Um,
Speaker 1: just the nicest people. Invader rest in Peace was just
Speaker 1: so sweet and so easy to work with. And yeah,
Speaker 1: great men. Uh So someone wanted to know if it
Speaker 1: was true that Danielle and Ben would eat smelly things
Speaker 1: in the later seasons as a prank for each other
Speaker 1: when they had to kiss. Is that true? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily call it a prank. I would say that Ben
Speaker 1: would regularly eat locks, he locks and onions. I remember
Speaker 1: that from having to work with him to not enough
Speaker 1: to kiss. And I would say, do we need to
Speaker 1: do that on the days when we have to kiss?
Speaker 1: Is it possible that maybe there's just sometimes we could
Speaker 1: skip that breakfast? And he thought the answer is no.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know that I would call it
Speaker 1: a prank. Uh. I think it's just you know, at
Speaker 1: that point we buy seven seasons in, we were very
Speaker 1: very comfortable with each other as far as you know,
Speaker 1: kissing and what our jobs were as far as that
Speaker 1: was concerned, And it was never a big deal. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like I ever was actually upset about it or anything.
Speaker 1: It was more just like a real married situation where
Speaker 1: you kind of go, did you have to eat the long? Um?
Speaker 1: So that that was that, And I mean I don't
Speaker 1: remember it that I had any I think I was
Speaker 1: perfect and um so, I don't think I did. I
Speaker 1: don't think I did, but you know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I wish Ben were here to correct me. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I did, And I don't remember bred.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going on record saying I never did it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I did, but I really just remember I remember
Speaker 1: the locks personally. Um. Were there any off screen romances
Speaker 1: or crushes? I'll go first, I had a crush on Writer.
Speaker 1: That's not it is too true. I did. That's not true.
Speaker 1: You've never told me that I had. I had a
Speaker 1: crush on You saved that for thirty years. I was
Speaker 1: your first. Wow, so G T T and me, you
Speaker 1: really had the teen magazine thing covered all the way
Speaker 1: through the nineties. I really did. I really did. Yeah
Speaker 1: I did, Daniel. I think it started in maybe later
Speaker 1: in season one and definitely through season two. Um, and
Speaker 1: yeah I did. I had a crush on Writer and
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was so mart and he was
Speaker 1: you know. One of my favorite things about Writer and
Speaker 1: it still stands to this day. Writer is very effusive,
Speaker 1: like he will tell you how he feels, and he's
Speaker 1: very free with his compliments, but he doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 1: throw them out willy nilly. When Writer compliments you it
Speaker 1: is thoughtful, it has meaning, and you can tell he's
Speaker 1: like he's it's it's coming from a very real place.
Speaker 1: And when Writer and I really connected, like I think
Speaker 1: when I first started Boy Meets World, Writer was probably
Speaker 1: annoyed by me. I think I was like a stereotypical
Speaker 1: l A girl to him talking about a hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hated l A. I would have assumed you were
Speaker 1: like a valley girl, even though I guess you did
Speaker 1: live in the valley at that I did, I lived
Speaker 1: in the valley. I hadn't grown up in the valley,
Speaker 1: but I did live there at that time, and I
Speaker 1: do think you probably were like a little like I
Speaker 1: rollie about me. But then it's okay. Sorry, I took
Speaker 1: you thirty years to apologize for that. Writer, Sorry, um,
Speaker 1: But then we did. We we actually I ended up
Speaker 1: forming a very nice, um deep friendship and we had
Speaker 1: very like meaningful conversations about whatever was going on in
Speaker 1: our lives. And I just remember like Writer and I
Speaker 1: were in an acting class together for a while, and
Speaker 1: I remember getting like a real, very real compliment from
Speaker 1: Writer like you, my friend, are doing really incredible work,
Speaker 1: and then feeling like, oh, my God, I love you,
Speaker 1: and I think I told you. I found a diary
Speaker 1: that I wrote for like three months of us being
Speaker 1: on boy Meat's World. Will also found a diary, and
Speaker 1: I found my diary and I was reading it and
Speaker 1: it was so embarrassing because I would end the diary
Speaker 1: with like, ps, I love and then there's like four
Speaker 1: people I loved and writer writer was one of them.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, so I did have an on
Speaker 1: I did have heard it here first, this writer, because
Speaker 1: I heard the story. Didn't you and Ben like try
Speaker 1: and go on a date at one point? Or the
Speaker 1: story I've always heard, Well, yes, and it was, but
Speaker 1: that story got misconstrued at me. It was like we
Speaker 1: went on like a real date. It was really, truthfully,
Speaker 1: there was a moment where at some point, I think
Speaker 1: it was probably season three or four. I think we
Speaker 1: could drive at the time, so we must have been
Speaker 1: one of us must have been sixteen, but maybe even not,
Speaker 1: because I don't remember being in the car together. I
Speaker 1: just remember that we like looked at each other after
Speaker 1: all these weeks of playing boyfriend and girlfriend and all
Speaker 1: the kissing and just kind of like, I don't eve
Speaker 1: remember how the conversation happened, but it was like, should
Speaker 1: we just go to dinner one night, Like, let's just
Speaker 1: go to dinner just the two of us, which we
Speaker 1: had not really ever done, and so we did. We
Speaker 1: went to dinner, and it was very quickly into the
Speaker 1: restaurant meal that we realized, like, this is a hard
Speaker 1: boundary to jump, Like I've known you for now a
Speaker 1: long time. I feel like we're just being our jokey,
Speaker 1: friendly selves, but now in a restaurant where there's like
Speaker 1: this pressure of like do I like you? And so
Speaker 1: it was very obvious that know what we had was
Speaker 1: just this very fun, non romantic um something I would
Speaker 1: consider more than a friendship, something shared history with someone
Speaker 1: that's more than friendship, but not at all romantic, and
Speaker 1: that it was going to be an undefinable type of
Speaker 1: relationship where I've kissed this person more times than maybe
Speaker 1: I've kissed anyone else, or I will ever kiss anyone else,
Speaker 1: and yet we are never going to turn it into
Speaker 1: something romantic. It's just going to be a deep, a
Speaker 1: deep respect and friendship that that will be unexplainable to
Speaker 1: most people. M Hm, I never had a crush. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys are all so much younger than me. I
Speaker 1: mean I was usually dating somebody. I mean, of the
Speaker 1: did dating Nikki Cox from but yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: like I of like regular cast. There was no like
Speaker 1: romance behind the scenes or any of that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff for me. I mean again, I dated Nikki, I
Speaker 1: dated Genovoia Vonoy for a little while, and then I
Speaker 1: was with love for two years. I was with my
Speaker 1: girlfriend in Canada for two years. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I was with people for a while of the show
Speaker 1: and yeah, it just wasn't no again, I was. I
Speaker 1: was in a very I had a very different point
Speaker 1: point me to world experience, and it like I love
Speaker 1: hearing you guys talking about like riding in the car
Speaker 1: together and when you guys, I mean I never did
Speaker 1: that with any of you because I was, like, I
Speaker 1: was older. So it was I was, I was right
Speaker 1: in the middle. I was too young to hang out
Speaker 1: with Betsy and Rusty and their friends and too old
Speaker 1: to kind of hang out with you guys. So I
Speaker 1: was kind of lost a little bit in the in
Speaker 1: the center there. Um, but I always you know, he
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend and I had a very small group
Speaker 1: of friends and would usually hang out with them, So yeah,
Speaker 1: there was never kind of any romance stuff for me.
Speaker 1: I was always in a relationship. I started the show
Speaker 1: with a girlfriend that I talked about on this on
Speaker 1: this podcast, UM, and I was always miserable. I was
Speaker 1: always because I was always missing her and I was
Speaker 1: like just so full of self loathing and angst and God,
Speaker 1: I just look back, I'm like, cheer up because we
Speaker 1: were together, I know, I guess. So yeah, So I
Speaker 1: I had a girl from my hometown. You know that
Speaker 1: I had met in third grade that I was in
Speaker 1: love with um all the way and we were together
Speaker 1: from like thirteen till sixteen, I think. And then Um,
Speaker 1: I dated Rachel who I met on the set of
Speaker 1: Boy World and she came to a tape night, Rachel
Speaker 1: Leie Cook Um, and we dated. You met her a
Speaker 1: year and a half. You met her because David Colms
Speaker 1: had been her studio teacher on Tom and Hawk with
Speaker 1: with Jonath, So I didn't know you met her on
Speaker 1: the set. Interesting. I met Rachel when David Colmbs brought
Speaker 1: her to a tape night and it was the same
Speaker 1: that whole that same night, it was an episode that
Speaker 1: Mina Savari was guest starred and I had spent the
Speaker 1: whole week flirting with Mina Savari. Um we'd never you know,
Speaker 1: hooked over or anything, but I was so in love
Speaker 1: with her. And then Rachel showed up and like then
Speaker 1: we that was I just do you want to hear
Speaker 1: something crazy about Minna Savari? I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: right when you said you did an episode with her,
Speaker 1: I remember exactly her dialogue from the episode. She's like
Speaker 1: a bouncer or something that I know she's for. End,
Speaker 1: She's a friend who comes in and somebody says, oh,
Speaker 1: he's I don't I know. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: this context is. I don't know what it means or why.
Speaker 1: But somebody says, either about you or Corey, oh, I
Speaker 1: want you to meet the boy who spits water. And
Speaker 1: she says, a boy who spits water? Why is he
Speaker 1: spit water? Oh my god, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: that means, what context it's in. But I distinquished. Remember
Speaker 1: we should get me to come onto our show. She
Speaker 1: was because she I ran into her. I ran into her,
Speaker 1: and she like years later she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's so good to see you. Remember being on her
Speaker 1: showing her Man we should definitely have her on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was always in a relationship because after rate So,
Speaker 1: I really wasn't single on the set of Boy Means
Speaker 1: were all until it was like seventeen, um, and you
Speaker 1: were single for like three weeks. You were You are
Speaker 1: a serial you always have been. Yeah, yeah, I Um.
Speaker 1: The only person on the show I ever had a
Speaker 1: romantic relationship with was Matthew Lawrence. I then did date
Speaker 1: Matthew Lawrence while we were on the show in I
Speaker 1: don't know what season that was, maybe season six. You
Speaker 1: guys kept them pretty quiet though we did not want people.
Speaker 1: We did not want it to be a big deal
Speaker 1: on set. Yeah, we didn't want to be. I went
Speaker 1: to his prom our, mom's were friends. It was cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good man. He's a good kid. Um.
Speaker 1: Did you guys get into arguments like siblings because you
Speaker 1: were basically playing a family. Sure, and not only that,
Speaker 1: but we were also a family that didn't shy away
Speaker 1: from political debates, So there were lots of feated political debates,
Speaker 1: room religious debates even on our show, like Howtward And
Speaker 1: you know, I always felt positive about it. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if everybody feels as positive about it, but like
Speaker 1: I remember enjoying that. I remember enjoying the tough like that.
Speaker 1: You know, um, I think I needed my I needed
Speaker 1: to be tough, and like my skin needed to be
Speaker 1: tough in a little bit. And I remember will you
Speaker 1: really like sort of teaching because I grew up in
Speaker 1: a family where we never insulted each other, Like it's
Speaker 1: the most earnest family in the world. My mom to
Speaker 1: this day does not, like cannot do a sarcastic boys,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't read sarcasm. It's like it's just she's
Speaker 1: so earnest, and you know, like we never said shut
Speaker 1: up or any of any of those sort of you know.
Speaker 1: But the idea that you would like jab each other
Speaker 1: or like make fun of each other or tease each
Speaker 1: other with something I did not get introduced to until
Speaker 1: Boy Beat the World. And I remember you explaining that
Speaker 1: to me, like it's okay, Like it's okay that you
Speaker 1: can tease each other and make fun of each other.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't it shouldn't destroy you, you know, it
Speaker 1: should you should be able to bounce back from that
Speaker 1: and tease back, and that can be a form of affection.
Speaker 1: And that I really learned that on the set of
Speaker 1: Boy But Yeah, but then we also would get really
Speaker 1: into some intense debates. We still do, Will and I
Speaker 1: especially still do. I've been at many a dinner with
Speaker 1: Will and writer debates and I'm like eyes, guys, I
Speaker 1: really I see both sides here, I and what I think.
Speaker 1: Will is trying to say, well, writer, or what I think,
Speaker 1: and I end up playing that role where I try
Speaker 1: to explain what I think. The other one is trying
Speaker 1: to say I love it though, because I think and
Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm I mean. Intelligence is certainly one thing,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, you can debate however you want to.
Speaker 1: But Roddy, you're certainly far more educated than I am.
Speaker 1: So every time that I debate you or we have
Speaker 1: kind of a conversation like that, I always feel like
Speaker 1: I have to step up to try to get to
Speaker 1: your level. So it makes me here's what here here,
Speaker 1: you know what We've We've actually pinpointed this difference relatively recently.
Speaker 1: I absorb news only by reading. I do not watch
Speaker 1: news I do, whereas you get your news by watching
Speaker 1: mostly right like and so we were able to pinpoint
Speaker 1: We're able to pinpoint that difference is like, you know,
Speaker 1: because I I have this experience where I'll I've been
Speaker 1: reading about a political figure, for instance, for years, I've
Speaker 1: never seen their pictures, so I don't even know what
Speaker 1: they look like. Because I believe in the news as
Speaker 1: purely text based, whereas you, you know, watched news channels,
Speaker 1: and so that alone creates a different type of education.
Speaker 1: You know, even if we're talking about the same subject,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have completely different interpretations of it based on
Speaker 1: our source material. And I just stopped, you know, I
Speaker 1: tried to watch everything I would try, you know, people
Speaker 1: were like you watch Fox News, Like yeah, I watch
Speaker 1: Fox and m s nt me see and and seeing
Speaker 1: it like I want to get every possible. And then
Speaker 1: after a while I went, now I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch anything. And it's been a good year or two
Speaker 1: where it's like I just don't. I don't turn the
Speaker 1: news on. I just can't. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I needed a break. And Writer also like the difference too,
Speaker 1: is like Writer really believes in acting locally. You're involved
Speaker 1: in like your school board, and you you get very involved,
Speaker 1: and um, I've always respected that about you, that you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't affect change. One person can affect change. And
Speaker 1: if it's one person, and then you get your neighbor
Speaker 1: and um, you know the people around you, you can.
Speaker 1: Really making a difference on a local level is sometimes
Speaker 1: way more were important than trying to do it on
Speaker 1: like a global level. Um. So yeah, I did appreciate
Speaker 1: that about our sets, even though I probably didn't jump in.
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in a family that talked about
Speaker 1: politics a whole lot or um, you know, certainly not openly.
Speaker 1: My parents may have, but they didn't. We didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it with us as kids, and so I was
Speaker 1: more like reserved and probably thinking like my opinion doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything, and I don't necessarily know what my opinion is,
Speaker 1: so I'm just going to stay quiet. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I do remember those discussions, especially remember religious discussions, religion,
Speaker 1: religious discussion because we we had some religious people on
Speaker 1: our set and ran everything in between. Yeah, ran the
Speaker 1: whole the whole spectrum of spiritual but not religious to
Speaker 1: atheist and everything in between and very religious. Yeah, religious,
Speaker 1: different types of religions, Christianity. It was like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're we represented everything and we all, all of us
Speaker 1: were opinionated, and we all liked each other, so we
Speaker 1: all talk you know, would talk about it, and of
Speaker 1: course that always let me. Everybody listening to this podcast
Speaker 1: has been around the dinner table and genuinely loving people
Speaker 1: and still in that moment you hate them and you
Speaker 1: argue with them and you do this. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: how we were. We that's what we were like. Both
Speaker 1: my parents are lawyers, so we had to learn how
Speaker 1: to argue growing up. We just did um And again,
Speaker 1: there's times on the set, like you talked about the teasing,
Speaker 1: there's times where that got us into trouble. You know,
Speaker 1: there's times where you would tease somebody who didn't know
Speaker 1: you were teasing them, and feelings get hurt. And we
Speaker 1: talked about that and we got you know, there's you know,
Speaker 1: it's certainly toughened up. I certainly got toughened up a
Speaker 1: lot by a lot of your arguments. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: talked about this and I'm not going to get into
Speaker 1: any specifics certainly, but there's two major um uh political
Speaker 1: ideologies in my life. Yeah, that to two issues that
Speaker 1: writer completely changed my mind on, and I mean completely
Speaker 1: changed my mind on. From one side of the argument,
Speaker 1: literally to the other side of the argument. And it's
Speaker 1: because he made a better argument. You know. We we
Speaker 1: sat there, we talked it out, we yelled it out,
Speaker 1: we did everything, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I had to look at myself and go, no, he's right,
Speaker 1: Like he changed my mind. And that's uh. I think
Speaker 1: that's important too. When you're open to you're just yelling
Speaker 1: at each other, it doesn't matter. But if you're open
Speaker 1: to actual change, then it is a discussion. And I
Speaker 1: always look back at that, like, No, those two things
Speaker 1: he completely changed my mind on. So interesting. I want
Speaker 1: to I think I know what those two things are.
Speaker 1: But I um, okay, what nineties shows did were we watching?
Speaker 1: Were you guys watching any other nineties shows at the
Speaker 1: time while we were on a ninety show? Oh I was.
Speaker 1: I got one right off the bat that was addicted to,
Speaker 1: especially with my roommate Spencer at the time. We would
Speaker 1: get Taco Bell and we would watch melrose Place like
Speaker 1: addictively at the time, so he would get occasionally get
Speaker 1: an episode early or and we would just oh man,
Speaker 1: Taco Bell and and melrose Place and just sitting there
Speaker 1: like these people. Oh, it was great. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: I watched X Files with my family. It was it
Speaker 1: was appointment TV for my family to watch X Files,
Speaker 1: and then I did watch, at least for those first
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. I did watch the t g i
Speaker 1: F block, like Family Matters would started at eight pm,
Speaker 1: and then Boy's World came on at eight thirties. Sabrina
Speaker 1: was on after US, and then I don't remember what
Speaker 1: ended the block, but I would watch the block Hanging
Speaker 1: with Mr Cooper maybe at nine thirty could have Hanging
Speaker 1: with Mr Cooper was after US. I feel like I
Speaker 1: never watched any of the other t g F shows.
Speaker 1: I watched our show from eight thirty to nine once
Speaker 1: a week, and like that was it. I also watched
Speaker 1: Seinfeld to Support, not until later, I know, terrible Support.
Speaker 1: You didn't watch Seinfeld and when it was on, you
Speaker 1: watched it later? Now I watched it later. I found
Speaker 1: it later. My wife was addicted to it and really
Speaker 1: got me. Yeah. I didn't discover Seinfeld or Friends until
Speaker 1: in the early auts. I remember I was in. I
Speaker 1: was in, you know. I didn't watch television, so for me,
Speaker 1: it was always movies and I didn't really get into
Speaker 1: television until Netflix wasn't around, because then I could get
Speaker 1: the DVDs because then I would watch because I never
Speaker 1: even had when they're mailed to your house, that's right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's when I That's when I caught up on like
Speaker 1: a lot of shows like Friends, UM. But and then
Speaker 1: I also watched UM Sopranos of course, and like that's
Speaker 1: when it was all DVD related. I never watched anything
Speaker 1: on television. Okay, here's a good one. Was anyone ever
Speaker 1: injured on set? I was? I was to wait, were
Speaker 1: you ever injured? You mean, like, I know we can
Speaker 1: talk about my ingrown tone l and being on a scene,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't an injured because of the show. That
Speaker 1: was just righter on Viking Awesome. No, I'm trying, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, all I can remember is Ben when the
Speaker 1: roller coaster? Were you not? Were you not there for coaster?
Speaker 1: And the famous seat? I think it was in the
Speaker 1: opening credits on the second season, so people might remember
Speaker 1: there's an episode where Ben is riding a roller coaster
Speaker 1: and which just goes down if it ends, and like
Speaker 1: it just goes down. But whatever the way they had
Speaker 1: designed it, it had a thing right in front of
Speaker 1: his crotch, So when it stopped, he went right into
Speaker 1: it and it was rehearsal to the hospital like that.
Speaker 1: It was terrifying. I mean, it was probably the most
Speaker 1: painful experience you've ever experienced. It. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And I was there for he was genuinely and it
Speaker 1: was like it was during run through, so everybody like
Speaker 1: the whole what it was. So we had rehearsed, rehearsed
Speaker 1: getting in and out of the roller coaster, because you
Speaker 1: remember if the episode, if I remember the episode correctly,
Speaker 1: like Corey and I forget. I think Corey and Poenie
Speaker 1: get Eric and Turner to ride this roller coaster and
Speaker 1: they keep getting really sick, and then we do something
Speaker 1: to to turn the tides and it turns out being
Speaker 1: Phoenie and and Corey and he's in the front. And
Speaker 1: so we'd rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed, and then for
Speaker 1: run through, it just goes down this little ramp like
Speaker 1: at the end, like this tiny little ramp like you're
Speaker 1: ending roller coaster ride, and they hadn't had the seatbelt secure,
Speaker 1: so it was just Ben kind of holding on and
Speaker 1: the centrifugal force obviously threw him forward into this this
Speaker 1: board that was right between his legs um, and I
Speaker 1: can still see him writhing in pain. I mean it
Speaker 1: was like he was hurt. Uh, And they took him
Speaker 1: off to the hospital and and everything else. That was.
Speaker 1: That's the only Andrew I remember, and obviously wasn't even me,
Speaker 1: so I don't think I ever got hurt. When did
Speaker 1: you get hurt? Guys? Mine was was very silly. But
Speaker 1: remember the Subway episode where it was like a New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve race track. There was a piece of metal
Speaker 1: that was very sharp and was sticking out along one
Speaker 1: of them one of the seats, like from under the seat.
Speaker 1: And during a run through, I walked alongside the seat
Speaker 1: to get to my next blocking and it completely slit
Speaker 1: open my shin um. And of course it was during
Speaker 1: a run through, so I was like, don't do any
Speaker 1: thing now, just suck it up. And then the minute
Speaker 1: the scene was over, I looked down and I just
Speaker 1: had blood pouring down my leg. You kept going, I did.
Speaker 1: I kept going. I didn't say anything to anybody. I
Speaker 1: was like, nope, I'm not going to even Nick, didn't
Speaker 1: even WinCE. Was just like keep moving. And then I
Speaker 1: worked out and I was like, oh, I'm bleeding. Uh,
Speaker 1: And so that was it that it's a very minor injury.
Speaker 1: It was. I didn't need stitches or anything. I do
Speaker 1: think they made me get a technics shot because I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure when my I think it was like Rusty Metal.
Speaker 1: I don't even I think I had to get a test.
Speaker 1: Was built for a movie. We just dragged it out,
Speaker 1: throw it up there. What about you will? I Mine
Speaker 1: was not on the set. It was Actually it was
Speaker 1: such a strange story. Were was when we were playing
Speaker 1: basketball and I fell down playing basketball and I did
Speaker 1: something to my thumb and I thought maybe I'd either
Speaker 1: dislocated it or broken hit. But I was fine. I
Speaker 1: just taped it up and moved on. But I told
Speaker 1: our teacher, David Combs. And when you then tell your teacher,
Speaker 1: you kind of trigger the next things that happened on
Speaker 1: a set. And by that point that with we hadn't
Speaker 1: told anybody because he wasn't allowed to do this. But
Speaker 1: Spencer had to leave for the weekend to go on
Speaker 1: a business trip, and so he was at l a
Speaker 1: X ready to get on the plane, and David Combs
Speaker 1: called me and said, I have to take you. I
Speaker 1: called Osha or whatever, and I have we have you
Speaker 1: and your guardian have to go to the hospital. And
Speaker 1: I had to tell him Spencer's not here, and he said,
Speaker 1: you have to get him back. And I remember they
Speaker 1: had to paige Spencer in the airport and he had
Speaker 1: to turn around and leave the airports. Probably Burbank apport
Speaker 1: probably wasn't l a X because we lived on the street.
Speaker 1: And so he literally had to leave the airport right
Speaker 1: before his flight to come and take me to the
Speaker 1: hospital for them to go. Now, it's a slight sprain,
Speaker 1: and he like missed the whole It was like a
Speaker 1: Fox weekend. He was supposed to do, uh, some kind
Speaker 1: of public and I just kept saying him like I
Speaker 1: did not trigger this, I'm so sorry, like I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: and he was just he was best. Spencer getting paid
Speaker 1: to be your guardian. Was he getting a break on
Speaker 1: rent or something? Well, yeah, I think I think I
Speaker 1: was paying most of the rent. But for the oak Wood,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like we were living in some
Speaker 1: last That is one of those situations, like you know,
Speaker 1: he was inconvenience, like he was technically your legal guardian
Speaker 1: for that whole first year, which is crazy because he
Speaker 1: was only six maybe at the time, if that would yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so he's my brother's age. So wait
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, we've been twenty because my brother's eight
Speaker 1: years older than me. So but yeah, I remember had
Speaker 1: to put like take him out of the airport because
Speaker 1: he snuck away for a weekend leaving me alone, which
Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to do, and it was like he
Speaker 1: had to come back from the airport and yeah, he
Speaker 1: was not at yep. Other than that, I can't think
Speaker 1: of anybody else think thank god, Uh, would you encourage
Speaker 1: your kids to become actors? Writer? You have a very
Speaker 1: performative child. Wow, I'll say, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do about it. I really don't. I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can go off. Courage is an encourage is a
Speaker 1: tough word. I mean, I would say you you I'm
Speaker 1: sure will not discourage him from from following his dream.
Speaker 1: I would imagine if if that happens to be his dream. Ah,
Speaker 1: he said, Well, I mean a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: he said something. I mean, even on this podcast, he
Speaker 1: talked about being famous. He said something about like we
Speaker 1: could I then be famous and like he gets really excited,
Speaker 1: and I've you know, I definitely have discouraged that idea.
Speaker 1: I've told him. I was like, hey, here's the way
Speaker 1: I felt about being famous. Man, It's not being famous,
Speaker 1: you know, isn't what you think it is? Like, it's
Speaker 1: not I think in his mind, it's just a net positive,
Speaker 1: just like being rich is a net positive. You could
Speaker 1: also be famous. And so I've had to sort of
Speaker 1: explain to him, you know, I mean, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't make him feel bad, but I just explained to
Speaker 1: him how it made me feel and how I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the goal. The same way I explained
Speaker 1: to him when he talks about wanting toys like other
Speaker 1: rich kids have or you know whatever, I'm always like,
Speaker 1: why do you want stuff? Like? What what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do with it? You want to play with the toy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you know, it's better to have an experience
Speaker 1: or a good meal or anywhere. That's what I'm always
Speaker 1: so the same thing with fam. I'm just like, if
Speaker 1: you want to be an actor, And I have told
Speaker 1: him because I do think he is ridiculously performative. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I explained what an acting class was and
Speaker 1: he got really excited, and the idea of improv like exercises.
Speaker 1: When I explained what some of them were, he was
Speaker 1: just like, but that's easy, that's fun. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna love it. So I'm but most of them
Speaker 1: don't start till eight anyway, So I'm going to start
Speaker 1: him up in the fall. He'll start taking an acting class.
Speaker 1: They I've seen some some parent friends of mine begin
Speaker 1: their kids with like going right to headshots, agents and auditions,
Speaker 1: and that was a quick way to ruin acting for
Speaker 1: them because obviously you don't get every part, and obviously
Speaker 1: that's not fun. You know, maybe it's fun you show
Speaker 1: up for a certain commercial and they're like, hey, do
Speaker 1: this fun thing or say these funny lines. That can
Speaker 1: be fun, but really, you know, unless you get work
Speaker 1: right away, it can easily kill the acting experience. So
Speaker 1: for me, it's like Indie has to take an acting
Speaker 1: class or do a play. He's as expressed, he doesn't
Speaker 1: really want to do a play. But the idea of
Speaker 1: acting class where he gets to him rise or do characters.
Speaker 1: I mean, the kid has a whole set of characters.
Speaker 1: He's as good as someone who does voices. He's good
Speaker 1: at him know, so yes, he takes these challenges. We
Speaker 1: have these conversation. I am engaging him like I did
Speaker 1: on this podcast when I had him to his dinosaur stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm encouraging him creatively, and I want him to
Speaker 1: build the right skill set if he wants to do it.
Speaker 1: I do not want him to chase child actordom or
Speaker 1: fame fame. Ye hyeah, Danielle, You've got two little ones
Speaker 1: you want them to be? Would you encourage the business?
Speaker 1: I know I'm not encouraging the business, but here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say. I think our job as parents is to
Speaker 1: show kids how like that the world is full of
Speaker 1: possibilities and and then they will show you who they are.
Speaker 1: And I am not going to try And he he
Speaker 1: doesn't know who that who I am. He's three. He
Speaker 1: doesn't know what I'm known for. But he does know
Speaker 1: like he saw the first time you ever saw me
Speaker 1: on TV was when we just did Good Morning America.
Speaker 1: Um and the day before we were flying, you know,
Speaker 1: we did nineties Con and we did Good Morning America.
Speaker 1: And I had told him the night before, I said,
Speaker 1: now when I when you wake up tomorrow, Mommy's not
Speaker 1: going to be here. Daddy is going to be here
Speaker 1: with you, and daddy's going to take you to school,
Speaker 1: but mommy is going to be on a plane. And
Speaker 1: he was like okay. He really took that in and
Speaker 1: you know, Mommy's going to work and she has to
Speaker 1: go on a plane to get there. And he's like okay.
Speaker 1: And so then the next morning he said to Jensen
Speaker 1: when Jensen went in there alone, and he said, Mommy's
Speaker 1: on a plane and he Jensen said, yeah, Mommy's on
Speaker 1: a plane. And it was the next day we were
Speaker 1: on a Good Morning America and Adler was sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch and Jensen turned it on for him and
Speaker 1: he pointed and he said, mommy, and then he looked
Speaker 1: at Jensen he said on a plane and and Jensen
Speaker 1: was like yeah. And so I think he thinks I
Speaker 1: flew on a plane to get on TV and that's
Speaker 1: how you get to TV. And I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: when he's ready, when he's capable of understanding, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell him all of the things that are possible
Speaker 1: in this in the industry, and if he wants to
Speaker 1: do it, then you know, I'll probably do the same thing, right,
Speaker 1: or did like really try to teach him the art
Speaker 1: of it um and see if that interests him. But
Speaker 1: I you know, if I had my druthers, no, it
Speaker 1: would not be the life that I chose for him.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what he wants to do. I definitely
Speaker 1: think my kid, I want him to have a life
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry because I think he's a natural
Speaker 1: storyteller performer. But it could be dancing, could be singing,
Speaker 1: could you know. The acting thing seems like kind of
Speaker 1: the easiest route in some ways, So I want to
Speaker 1: make sure that he has an awareness he is in
Speaker 1: my wife's movie, that he's an extra in my wife's
Speaker 1: movie that she just and so he was on set
Speaker 1: and he actually got to do the slate which is awesome.
Speaker 1: You guys that video the second it happened. So he's
Speaker 1: already felt comfortable in a set and really enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: and everybody, of course loved having him there. So I have,
Speaker 1: more than anything, I want him to have that because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great jobs in the entertrainment industry,
Speaker 1: you know, like being in the art department, being being
Speaker 1: a camera operator, like uh, sound like these are really good, lucrative,
Speaker 1: and you get to be around the magic, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like just the film industry. For me
Speaker 1: at least, what I still can never get enough of
Speaker 1: is fake snow and fake blood and all the things
Speaker 1: we do to make our make believes so much fun. UM,
Speaker 1: and I just want him to have that, you know,
Speaker 1: as an option for he has your sons and performer,
Speaker 1: I will never have to worry about it, so we
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