WEBVTT - Q&A Meets World Part 2 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.400 Welcome to Pod meets World. We are doing a very 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.360 special episode of Questions and Answers because you guys have 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.360 been so thoughtful and sending us in your questions to 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.480 Pod meets World show at gmail dot com. And so 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.479 let's jump into it. Is So, who came up with 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:38.080 the name to Panga? Great question and is a mystery 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.440 of the show as far as who I asked, Well, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.199 but the correct answer is, uh, it's this name of 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:49.920 a canyon and a street right inspired by Yeah. But 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.879 the idea is that that used to be like a 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.880 big hippie new age hangout. It still is kind of right, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.640 So it's like a very sort of backwoodsy part of 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.560 of of l A. So it made sense, you know. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.800 But Yeah. Michael Jacobs tells one story, which is that 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.120 he did it while driving Yeah, that someone from someone 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.319 called him to say, we need a name for this character. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.360 And he happened to be on the one oh one 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.880 freeway at the Topanga Canyon exit, and he looked up 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.160 and he said, to Panga, I called I called on that. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.360 There's no way the convenience of the road and the road. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.600 You know. It's just a good story. It's a funny story. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.240 If his his his joke, he always says. And if 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:29.960 they had called five minutes earlier, her name would have 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.640 been white Oak. Oh, I heard, I heard if they 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.120 had called, I've heard if they had called two minutes, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.160 two minutes earlier, she would have been to Soto. Okay, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:42.840 So he's which are the row all the we just 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.520 named all the exits in a row people exactly. But 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.800 this is a comedy writer, so that I've heard Jeff Sherman, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.280 I've heard Michael Jacobs, I've heard now Bill Lawrence, Bill 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.000 Lawrence because to Panga Lawrence. So Bill Lawrence told me 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.720 that his Panga's last name was Lawrence because of him. Yeah, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.960 and yet I quite work out as far as when 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.600 he did write an episode of our of Our of 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.160 our first season, but um, it seems like Tanga was 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.679 already introduced by the time his script made an end. Yeah, 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.320 we talked about that her last name might not have 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:20.320 been introduced Lawrence in my episode. That's right. Yeah, So 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.600 that is so so we don't know, it really is. Honestly, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.200 it's a mystery. It's it's um of my goals for 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.600 the podcast. If I had to pick five of them 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.079 on that list, would be to find out who named 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.200 to Panga wants and like get the get the story. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.440 I would love to know because I've never never fully known. Um. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.760 I thought this was a really funny question. Did you 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.000 guys have strict bedtimes when you were a kid? Filming 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.760 a TV show? That's so interesting. I've thought about this 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.720 actually a lot, because I have I have a pretty 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.320 consistent bedtime with my kid, Like we're not super strict, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.440 so if like friends are over going late, we go late. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.720 But I've ever since he was born my wife, and 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.400 I'm just like he goes to bed at this time, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.040 he takes a nap at this time, and we tried 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.200 to be this regular responsib and I realized like my 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.119 parents had no bedtimes my entire childhood. I would live 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.239 and I do remember falling to sleep everywhere, like I 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.240 would just fall asleep in my shoes on there and 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.440 so exhausting. As a parent, I can't believe they did that, Like, well, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.120 we just go and go and go until we pass out. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.239 And I've never had a problem sleeping, so I guess 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.639 it was fine for me, like mental health wise or 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.280 sleep scheduling wise, but as a parent, like I cherished 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.840 the time my son goes to bed and my wife 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.200 and I can like have a drink or watch a 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.800 movie or just talk without a child there. It's like 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.799 so essential to have, even if it's a half an 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.600 hour of like grown up time. So I can't believe 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.520 my parents and never did that. So yeah, I never 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.600 had bed times my entire childhood. Well, I know you 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.960 were a little older and living with like a legal 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.840 guardian in l A. So you didn't I'm assuming you 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.320 did not have a bed time. I did not. I 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.240 had a bed time growing up the entire time, and 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.840 it was an early bedtime, to the point where literally 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.400 back East, I would be lying in my bed trying 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.200 to sleep while it was still light out and I 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.400 could hear the kids playing in the street. Thank you dad, 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.080 What time was it, Oh, it was probably like seven thirty. Yeah, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.760 sound like He's always like, Dad, it's still light And 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:11.040 I'm like, because it's June, yeah exactly, but your kid, 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.600 that's always window. You'd hear out your window. They're like, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.640 this is the most fun I've ever had in my life. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.200 So it's like stuff. But no, by the time we 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.200 started the show, I was I was essentially living on 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.719 my own yeah, yeah, I don't think I had a 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.599 strict bedtime, but it did, like I did have a 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.960 thing where it was like, okay, it's time for bed, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.240 Now you have to go up to your room. I 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.080 don't think they monitored whether or not I was like 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.200 listening to music or you know, I had headphones like 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.920 I wasn't. I don't think they were like make sure 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.279 you're asleep. Also, it really depended on what was going 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.000 on that week, because as you guys have heard, for 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.960 the first season, for at least several of the episode, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.919 my mom was braiding my hair, um, and I was 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.279 not able to go to sleep until like eleven o'clock 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.599 because I had I had hair braiding to have done. Um. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.760 And then obviously there were times too where in those 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.000 in that first season where I was still terrified of 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.440 losing my job and so I was like rehearsing my 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.680 lines and I still had homework, you know, like we 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.279 get three hours of school per day on the set, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.120 but that didn't mean that I still didn't come home 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.159 with schoolwork to do. And because I did go back 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.120 to my regular school on our hiatus weeks, and as 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.080 we've discussed, our schedules started on a Friday, which means 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.960 when we had a hiatus week, it started on a Friday, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.880 and I would go back to Calabasas High School on Friday, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.560 which meant to the day I had to be caught 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.839 up with all of my classes. If it was a test, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.839 I had to take that test. If it was like 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.000 homework was turned in, I had to turn in that homework. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.440 So I don't remember there being like a strict bed time, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.200 but there was definitely like you need to go to 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.280 your room now to go to bed, and then closed 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.400 the door. Calm down. Yeah, time to calm down and 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.960 also give my parents exactly what you're talking about right now. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.760 As a parent, I am so um not strict. I'm 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.920 flexible with the schedule. Like you said, if people are over, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.440 Adler goes to bed a little bit later. Um. If 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.560 you know, if we have something going on that day, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.400 that's big, Adler won't take a nap that day like 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.760 and he thankfully is flexible and can adjust with that. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.320 But I live for that moment that it's seven thirty 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:07.839 and I think now is the time where I can 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.720 put you in your room and unlike you guys, with 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.680 the you can still hear kids playing outside and it's 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:17.400 light outside. My kids sleep in pitch black windows blacked out, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.760 and very loud white noise. They can't hear anything and 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.400 they can't see anything. It's it's two o'clock in the 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.040 morning if you're in my kid's room, no matter what. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.800 So and now I sleep with a bunch of white 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.280 noise too, because now I've gotten used to it. Um 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.119 all day. Every day. You guys are asking us where 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.320 can we see video of the podcast? And we have 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.520 to tell you we don't have video of the podcast. Well, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.600 guess what. I'm here to tell you that we are 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.800 doing our first ever live show. That's right, we are 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.920 taking this podcast to the stage. You can catch us 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.520 on October two at the Magnolia in El Cahoone, California. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.640 Pre sale tickets are available now with code chubbies c 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.360 h U b b y S. General sale tickets go 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.640 on sale right a August at ten am Pacific time, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.560 and you can also get your tickets available at ticketmaster 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.360 dot com. Come see us, It'll be a blast. Okay. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.640 I loved this question too. Why in the world were 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.360 the monkeys on the show? I think the proper answer 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:23.040 is why not? Yeah, yeah, Jeff Sherman was friends with 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.200 Jeff Jeff Sherman, who was one of our writer producers. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.440 His I think is one of his closest longest, closest 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.400 friends is Mickey Dolan's, who was obviously one of the 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.600 members of the Monkeys. So when you're when you're in 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.080 with one monkey, you're in with all the monkeys, as 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.800 they say, and uh, they were all on except for 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.080 Mike Nesmis, who then came to if I if I 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.800 understood the story, um, the episode where so they came 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.120 on first sporadically where I think in the first season, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:55.120 Rusty's old band comes back and um, Peter Tork comes 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.560 on for the first time ever. Um, And he was 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.160 the first. Peter was Peter Tork was my dad, but 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.680 he started as a guest cast on. Boy he did 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.920 not start did he start his Jedediah? Was he always 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.400 your dad? I well know I had three dads, but 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.280 but I think he was the first. I don't and 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.920 I don't think he was the He was on first 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.320 as part of the band and then also my dad. Okay, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.000 so I'm pretty sure. So so somebody has to check 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.520 this out. I could be wrongs. Again, we haven't seen 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.840 this firm. Are you talking about when they played Chubbies. No, no, no, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:33.320 that's when all the monkeys came on, who never might 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.560 do anything. Smith never came on, but he showed up 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.679 to the taping and then wanted to be put in 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.600 and Michael was like, well, we can't now put you in, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.839 like we're literally taping. Where did you hear that story? 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.040 Do you remember him being there? Oh? Yeah, Oh no, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:48.520 I know he was there. I spoke with him. I 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.360 actually actually talked to him. Yeah, you know, he was 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.120 there with a big bushy beard and a hat. Um 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.560 and apparently asked too. He's like, he saw everybody there. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:58.880 He's like, all right, so I'll go I guess I'll 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.000 go on. And Michael's like, well, now we can't can't 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.000 do that. Um. So no, he was there. No. We 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.160 did an episode where Rusty was in a band and 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.720 his old band was getting back together and it was, um, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.760 I don't remember the man's name, the guitarist from Cheap Trick. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.760 Oh yeah, was one of them? Um, I want to 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.520 say one of the monkeys was? I thought Peter Tork 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.400 was in the band. Um, I have no recollection to this. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.360 So and and so it's like Rusty picks up his guitar. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.839 Get because one of the reasons I remember Nielsen is 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.320 that okay, so the tag is then Rusty hands Eric 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.960 the guitar and says, here, what can you do with this? 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:46.880 And they plays amazing that. Yeah, so that was that that. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.760 I want to say, Peter Tork so what it was 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.280 because he comes on. He came on a couple of times, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.080 but maybe he was always Jedediah, but I thought he 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.640 jammed with Rusty's band or something like that. I thought 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.680 that was the first time. We'll know when we get 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.439 to it, and I don't because I don't remember that, 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.599 but I guess the real the short answer to the 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.199 question is Jeff Sherman, one of our writers and producers, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.080 was very close with Mickey Dolan, and then Mickey came 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.760 on and directed an episode which wasn't that first episode 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:17.439 that they were on until seasons like season seven. Yes, really, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.400 the one with the I'll never forget that, the one 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.959 with the B the brain and the jar and a B. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:29.720 I feel like I wasn't there. I must season the episode. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.240 Think for a number of reasons, we've blocked that episode out. Well, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.120 we'll talk about that four years from now, four years 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.280 from now, when we get there. Okay, Um, there were 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.599 a lot of wrestlers on Boy Meats World. What was 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.280 the connection there? And I can safely say that was 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.760 Mark Bluman? Is that what it was? Was Mark? Ye? 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.240 As far as I understand he did. He when he 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.200 started to stand up in Canada, one of his main 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.040 bits was to be a wrestler character like he would 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.080 have he create. Right, isn't that a Daniel? Yeah? And 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:00.000 so because he became sort of popular within comedy circles 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:04.600 as a like wrestler comedian and he also character very 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.040 into wrestling. He liked it, he knew a lot about it, 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.560 he followed it. He's been a wrestling fan for most 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.559 of his life. I did not know that that was 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:17.600 the connection of wrestling. Interesting. We had some awesome, incredibly 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.320 nice men on the show that were wrestlers, I mean 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.679 Vader and Nick Foley. I still see Mick Um and 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.440 he still comes over and throws his arm around me 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.920 and puts me in a headlock every time I see him. Um, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.840 just the nicest people. Invader rest in Peace was just 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.200 so sweet and so easy to work with. And yeah, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:37.600 great men. Uh So someone wanted to know if it 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.760 was true that Danielle and Ben would eat smelly things 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.040 in the later seasons as a prank for each other 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.240 when they had to kiss. Is that true? I wouldn't 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:51.679 necessarily call it a prank. I would say that Ben 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:58.480 would regularly eat locks, he locks and onions. I remember 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.400 that from having to work with him to not enough 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.880 to kiss. And I would say, do we need to 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.959 do that on the days when we have to kiss? 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.520 Is it possible that maybe there's just sometimes we could 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:15.040 skip that breakfast? And he thought the answer is no. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:16.800 And so I don't know that I would call it 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.559 a prank. Uh. I think it's just you know, at 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.800 that point we buy seven seasons in, we were very 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.040 very comfortable with each other as far as you know, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.680 kissing and what our jobs were as far as that 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.480 was concerned, And it was never a big deal. It 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.839 wasn't like I ever was actually upset about it or anything. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.760 It was more just like a real married situation where 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:43.840 you kind of go, did you have to eat the long? Um? 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.440 So that that was that, And I mean I don't 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.280 remember it that I had any I think I was 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.800 perfect and um so, I don't think I did. I 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.240 don't think I did, but you know, um, you know, 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.280 I wish Ben were here to correct me. But I 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.200 don't know. Maybe I did, And I don't remember bred. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.680 I'm definitely not going on record saying I never did it. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.520 Maybe I did, but I really just remember I remember 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:11.360 the locks personally. Um. Were there any off screen romances 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.920 or crushes? I'll go first, I had a crush on Writer. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:22.600 That's not it is too true. I did. That's not true. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.240 You've never told me that I had. I had a 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:34.560 crush on You saved that for thirty years. I was 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.920 your first. Wow, so G T T and me, you 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.040 really had the teen magazine thing covered all the way 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.280 through the nineties. I really did. I really did. Yeah 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:49.600 I did, Daniel. I think it started in maybe later 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:55.160 in season one and definitely through season two. Um, and 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.800 yeah I did. I had a crush on Writer and 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.840 I don't know. He was so mart and he was 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.000 you know. One of my favorite things about Writer and 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.640 it still stands to this day. Writer is very effusive, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.680 like he will tell you how he feels, and he's 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.840 very free with his compliments, but he doesn't he doesn't 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.640 throw them out willy nilly. When Writer compliments you it 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.080 is thoughtful, it has meaning, and you can tell he's 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.520 like he's it's it's coming from a very real place. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.360 And when Writer and I really connected, like I think 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.880 when I first started Boy Meets World, Writer was probably 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.320 annoyed by me. I think I was like a stereotypical 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.000 l A girl to him talking about a hat. Yeah, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.280 he hated l A. I would have assumed you were 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.080 like a valley girl, even though I guess you did 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.640 live in the valley at that I did, I lived 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.520 in the valley. I hadn't grown up in the valley, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:47.840 but I did live there at that time, and I 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.960 do think you probably were like a little like I 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.880 rollie about me. But then it's okay. Sorry, I took 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.440 you thirty years to apologize for that. Writer, Sorry, um, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.440 But then we did. We we actually I ended up 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.360 forming a very nice, um deep friendship and we had 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.760 very like meaningful conversations about whatever was going on in 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.120 our lives. And I just remember like Writer and I 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.440 were in an acting class together for a while, and 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.840 I remember getting like a real, very real compliment from 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.640 Writer like you, my friend, are doing really incredible work, 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.560 and then feeling like, oh, my God, I love you, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.200 and I think I told you. I found a diary 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.400 that I wrote for like three months of us being 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.920 on boy Meat's World. Will also found a diary, and 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.200 I found my diary and I was reading it and 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.880 it was so embarrassing because I would end the diary 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.200 with like, ps, I love and then there's like four 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:49.000 people I loved and writer writer was one of them. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.120 I love that. Yeah, so I did have an on 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:59.880 I did have heard it here first, this writer, because 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:02.040 I heard the story. Didn't you and Ben like try 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.920 and go on a date at one point? Or the 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.240 story I've always heard, Well, yes, and it was, but 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.440 that story got misconstrued at me. It was like we 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.680 went on like a real date. It was really, truthfully, 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.440 there was a moment where at some point, I think 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.080 it was probably season three or four. I think we 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.320 could drive at the time, so we must have been 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.640 one of us must have been sixteen, but maybe even not, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.560 because I don't remember being in the car together. I 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.960 just remember that we like looked at each other after 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.960 all these weeks of playing boyfriend and girlfriend and all 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.080 the kissing and just kind of like, I don't eve 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.080 remember how the conversation happened, but it was like, should 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.200 we just go to dinner one night, Like, let's just 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.000 go to dinner just the two of us, which we 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.840 had not really ever done, and so we did. We 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.560 went to dinner, and it was very quickly into the 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.800 restaurant meal that we realized, like, this is a hard 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.160 boundary to jump, Like I've known you for now a 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.840 long time. I feel like we're just being our jokey, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.160 friendly selves, but now in a restaurant where there's like 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.520 this pressure of like do I like you? And so 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.120 it was very obvious that know what we had was 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:06.520 just this very fun, non romantic um something I would 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.800 consider more than a friendship, something shared history with someone 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.960 that's more than friendship, but not at all romantic, and 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.480 that it was going to be an undefinable type of 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.840 relationship where I've kissed this person more times than maybe 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.680 I've kissed anyone else, or I will ever kiss anyone else, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.359 and yet we are never going to turn it into 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.159 something romantic. It's just going to be a deep, a 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.919 deep respect and friendship that that will be unexplainable to 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.800 most people. M Hm, I never had a crush. I mean, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.639 you guys are all so much younger than me. I 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.359 mean I was usually dating somebody. I mean, of the 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.560 did dating Nikki Cox from but yeah, but I mean 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.600 like I of like regular cast. There was no like 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.879 romance behind the scenes or any of that kind of 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.040 stuff for me. I mean again, I dated Nikki, I 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.520 dated Genovoia Vonoy for a little while, and then I 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.000 was with love for two years. I was with my 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.760 girlfriend in Canada for two years. So I was like, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.520 I was with people for a while of the show 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.479 and yeah, it just wasn't no again, I was. I 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.240 was in a very I had a very different point 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.360 point me to world experience, and it like I love 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.080 hearing you guys talking about like riding in the car 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.040 together and when you guys, I mean I never did 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.320 that with any of you because I was, like, I 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.560 was older. So it was I was, I was right 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.080 in the middle. I was too young to hang out 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.240 with Betsy and Rusty and their friends and too old 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.199 to kind of hang out with you guys. So I 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.040 was kind of lost a little bit in the in 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.520 the center there. Um, but I always you know, he 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.280 had a girlfriend and I had a very small group 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.040 of friends and would usually hang out with them, So yeah, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.280 there was never kind of any romance stuff for me. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.080 I was always in a relationship. I started the show 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.600 with a girlfriend that I talked about on this on 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.480 this podcast, UM, and I was always miserable. I was 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.000 always because I was always missing her and I was 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:51.200 like just so full of self loathing and angst and God, 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.639 I just look back, I'm like, cheer up because we 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.400 were together, I know, I guess. So yeah, So I 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.760 I had a girl from my hometown. You know that 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.879 I had met in third grade that I was in 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.639 love with um all the way and we were together 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.520 from like thirteen till sixteen, I think. And then Um, 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.040 I dated Rachel who I met on the set of 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.639 Boy World and she came to a tape night, Rachel 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.960 Leie Cook Um, and we dated. You met her a 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.960 year and a half. You met her because David Colms 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.280 had been her studio teacher on Tom and Hawk with 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.280 with Jonath, So I didn't know you met her on 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.000 the set. Interesting. I met Rachel when David Colmbs brought 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.040 her to a tape night and it was the same 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.399 that whole that same night, it was an episode that 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.080 Mina Savari was guest starred and I had spent the 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.080 whole week flirting with Mina Savari. Um we'd never you know, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:43.840 hooked over or anything, but I was so in love 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.680 with her. And then Rachel showed up and like then 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.720 we that was I just do you want to hear 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.399 something crazy about Minna Savari? I don't know why, but 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.360 right when you said you did an episode with her, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:57.399 I remember exactly her dialogue from the episode. She's like 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.280 a bouncer or something that I know she's for. End, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.680 She's a friend who comes in and somebody says, oh, 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.800 he's I don't I know. I have no idea what 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.720 this context is. I don't know what it means or why. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.680 But somebody says, either about you or Corey, oh, I 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.600 want you to meet the boy who spits water. And 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.520 she says, a boy who spits water? Why is he 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:20.040 spit water? Oh my god, I have no idea what 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:24.919