1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Fame as a monster of its own. We have seen 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: guys in the past in all sports sometimes get pulled 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: off by just the fame. The actual game becomes a sanctuary. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: I think that Lamar has already come to that realization. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Jordan eventually did, and Tigers certainly did. Where Okay, the 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: one place people can't bother me and can't get me 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: out of my element is when I'm playing. We got 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the first chance to talk to jud On this week. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: He made it clear if he plays under the franchise tag, 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: he's not sitting out, he's not holding out. He's okay 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, I just think he'll be fine. Like 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: he said, I think he's gonna have another great year, 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: and he's either gonna get paid a lot of money 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: by the Ravens before July fifteen, or someone's going to 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: pay a lot of money next year. To me, it's 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: a pleasant problem to have. I mean, you've got those 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: four guys and Lamar Jackson, five runners in your backfield 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: who are a serious problem for the opposition. And Gus 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: has always shown that he's ready for whatever you give. 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: The bus is always gassed up, ignition turned on. Welcome 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: into the lounge, Cliff Brown is back in the lounge 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: this week, gran Make is off. So Cliff, welcome back 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: to the lounge. Thanks for filling in. Thanks mav me 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: God always a pleasure man. So we want to talk 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: about it was kind of a busy week on the 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: football front. Uh. There was multiple press conferences. Matthew Judon 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: did a press conference, UM, Gus Edwards did a press conference. 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Lamar was announced to be on the cover of Madden. Uh. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: So lots of stuff happening this week, um, which is 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: which is fun, which is exciting, UM. And then also 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: there just continues to be lots of discussion obviously in 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the world of social justice. UM. This is our first 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: podcast we've done since the Ravens released the video, which 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: includ to owner Steve A. Schotti and a number of 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: players and also a number of people around the organization 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: last week. So there's a lot happening around the team 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: right now, around the organization and around the NFL. And 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: also we're hoping to get close to football I mean, 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean training camp should be right around the corner. 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All right, Cliff, so let's start with Lamar Jackson. 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: That's always an actual place to start. What do you 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: think of the Madden cover? Oh? I love it. I'm 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: not a huge maddened guy because I'm I stink at 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: the game, but uh, I really uh like the cover. Obviously, 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, having Lamar being on it at twenty three, 58 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: it's exciting for him. He seemed excited about it, and 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: obviously he's hoping the same thing that happens to him 60 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: that happened to Patrick Mahomes where he can take this 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: cover year and turn it into a Super Bowl year, 62 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: so really exciting, I think too for Rayvens fan. I 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: can't imagine being a kid, you know, Rayvens fan and 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: getting that game this year and seeing Lamar on the cover. 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: It's got to be pretty cool. I do think that 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: that's like an under appreciated element of all this is 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: that are obviously Lamar has identified and connected with so 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: many football fans, I think, especially young football fans, and 69 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, him and the Homes are 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: two faces I would say of the NFL. Um so 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Ma Homes went to Super Bowl was on the cover 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: last year. But I just think being on the cover 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: mad like that that game is the way that so 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: many people really develop a love for football, and I 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: think it's only growing. I mean, during this pandemic, there's 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: been more and more move into East sports. And the 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: other day, I you know, there's no sports on TV 78 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: and I'm at a point where I can't handle it anymore. 79 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I turned on the TV and was just watching video games. 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: I was watching the NBA, two guys playing NBA video games, 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Like I need sports back so bad. But a lot 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: of people do that, and I think that having Lamar 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: on the cover of It is only going to increase 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: his popularity, is it. It's It is weird though, to 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: see the Ravens have a guy who is the face 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: of the NFL. Like for so many years, the conversation 87 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: was about how we need more playmakers and we need 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: more energy, and now you have the m v P 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: and the guy who is on the cover of Madden. 90 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: It's crazy, I know. I mean, honestly, the team's identity 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: has been flipped. Now the Ravens at thought out of 92 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: uh as a as an exciting team. I think it's 93 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: great team that can score in bunches. Obviously let the 94 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: league in scoring last year. Lamar is an incredible player, 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: such an exciting player, he's must see TV. So yeah, 96 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: he's a video game player in real life. As far 97 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: as when he's on the field, he's the guy who 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: looks like he's being controlled by somebody moving exits. So yeah, 99 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: it only to me, it only fits it. He's the guy, 100 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: the Malden guy. But yeah, I mean I just think that, 101 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: you know, Lamar, It's another also indication of how much 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: he has to handle as the face of the franchise 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: and a star in the league. At such a young age. 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: That's part of what he's gonna have to navigate going forward. 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: People always want a piece of his time, they wanted 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: to do this, do that. His time is never truly 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: his own, and he's gonna have to find a way 108 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: and continue to find a way to make sure that, 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, he has his life together so that he 110 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: can focus on the things that are really important. It's 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: a challenge for anybody's in the spotlight, and Lamar definitely 112 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: is in the spotlight. Yeah, He's He's front and center. 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: So along those along that that point, you know, we 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: talked last year about how like Baker Mayfield was the 115 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: guy who was in all the commercials and he was 116 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: um sort of front and center in some regards for 117 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: the public front in a lot of ways. So Lamar 118 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: obviously is on the Madden cover. I don't know how 119 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: the commercials are gonna go this year because it's just 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a weird year. So even if he had those opportunities, 121 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna happen. Maybe they will, 122 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: But do you think that will alter anything about him? 123 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that will that that that will throw 124 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: him off or change anything, change anything about him? And 125 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: his his approach and his personality and all of that. No, 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I think that he just wants to win 127 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: so badly and loves football so much that having losing 128 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: focus on that. I don't think it's going to be 129 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: a problem for Lamar, um. But it is a channel. 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I think it would be naive to say, well, you know, 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: as his career goes on, that he won't have to 132 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: figure out ways sometime to make sure that he can 133 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: kind of stay in his own bubble and really have 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: his life be the way he wants it to be. 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we have seen guys in the past in 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: all sports sometimes get pulled off by just the fame. 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, fame as a monster of its own. It's 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: it's unique in that, you know, it's it's something that 139 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: you really can't get a true grasp on until you're 140 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: in that position. But I love Lamar's attitude, UM. I 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: love his competitiveness. UM. I don't think that that's gonna 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: be an issue for him. But as far as him 143 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: being able to get out of the spotlight anytime in 144 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: his career, that's not going to happen. He's gonna to 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: deal with it. Yeah, I don't think it's going to 146 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: change him at all in the sense that Lamar was famous, 147 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: uber famous at nineteen years old when he won the 148 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Heisman as a sophomore in college, he had people, you know, 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: hounding him on the way to class to get autographs 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: and his his life kind of changed almost overnight that 151 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: at that Florida State game and Michael Vick is tweeting 152 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: about him, and all of a sudden, he's he is 153 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: super famous and he wins the Heisman, but that hasn't 154 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: changed him to this point. So I don't think. I 155 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: don't understand why anything else would being on the Madden cover, 156 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: being the m v P like, He's still been the 157 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: same throughout the entire process. I and I think that 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: he is just so comfortable in his own skin, and 159 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: he is a hundred percent authentic and every interaction, uh, 160 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: and that's rare. You know, some guys I think, put 161 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: on a face or or try to look try to 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: do the right thing for the camera, but then they 163 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: act a certain way behind it when they're not on camera, 164 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: and the Mar is not that way. He's authentic at 165 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the time. And so that's why 166 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. But one thing I am 167 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: curious about, and you have some really good perspective on 168 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: this because you've covered a lot of athletes and a 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: lot of sports. The two that come to mind are 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: NBA and golf. You cover Tiger Woods. Um, you covered 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: a number of players in the NBA, including Michael Jordan's 172 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: And so when I was watching the Last Dance, did 173 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: you watch it? Did you watch the Last Dance? Yeah? 174 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: So he has been did a great job with it. 175 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: But one thing that I when when Jordan retired the 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: first time, one of the things that they kind of 177 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: highlighted is that he was at a point where he 178 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: could literally not go out of his hotel room. There 179 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: was a scene where he's sitting in his hotel room 180 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: and he's like, I just I get here and I 181 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: sit until the game because I can't leave. And that's 182 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: kind of at the point. He's not a Michael Jordan 183 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: level yet, but pretty close in terms of fame. UM, 184 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: not globally, but at least in the United States. He 185 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: is as big of a sports star right now as 186 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: there is. Um, how hard is that have you seen 187 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: for guys to deal with? Like wherever Tiger go was 188 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: the gallery followed, and everyone wanted a piece like that. 189 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: That does take a toll on you over time. It does. Um. 190 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: I think that the one thing that all guys and 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: who are position, all athletes who are position in that 192 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: position to have in common is the actual game becomes 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: their sanctuary. The field, the golf course, the court is 194 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: the one place where those guys aren't disturbed and can 195 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: just enjoy what they do. So I think that Lamar 196 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: has already come to that realization. I think Jordan eventually did, 197 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: and Tigers certainly did. Where Okay, the one place people 198 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: can't bother me and can't get me out of my 199 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: element is when I'm playing and embracing that, embracing the 200 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: love for the game. And that's what you know, Lamar 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: already does. That's what to me, all great players do, 202 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: because to be as good as those guys are, in 203 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: spite of their talent, you have to love it. It 204 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: can't be a job where you know, I'm just doing 205 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: this because I'm good at it. You have to love it. 206 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: And Lamar has a passion for the game. We obviously 207 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: saw Jordan's passion, you know, in that during that documentary 208 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: that that rang through and Tiger everyone knows how much 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: he loves to golf, so I think Lamar is gonna 210 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: be fine. But yeah, it is fascinating to watch guys 211 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: who get to that level. That's why to me, it's 212 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: so fascinating. That's part of what makes them so compelling 213 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: is that everybody seems to be riveted. Like when Lamar 214 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: gets the football. When he's on the field, he's the 215 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: guy to everyone. All eyes are on him. Yeah. So 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: the last thing on Lamar then moved to another topic 217 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: is he did a number of interviews over the course 218 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: of this Madden cover launch, and one of them, who 219 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: did a podcast where he talked about the Titans game, 220 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: and he talked about kind of underestimating the Titans going 221 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: into that game and that they're not going to do 222 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: that again next year. And something that we talked about 223 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot near the end of last season as a 224 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: team was fourteen and two, as all eyes and all 225 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: talk was on the Super Bowl whether that would have 226 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: an impact, and I don't know, underestimate makes it seem 227 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: like they didn't even bothered preparing for the Titans. Obviously 228 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: that's not the case. They worked hard to get ready 229 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: for that game. But I think that the Titans ended 230 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: up coming playing better than anybody expected, and certainly they 231 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: were shocked. Everyone was shocked with the result of that game. 232 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: But I do think that there's something to be said 233 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: for there was so much focus and Lamar wants to 234 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl so bad, and everyone wanted to 235 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl so bad, and then and the 236 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Ravens were the best team in the regular season, they 237 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: were the best team in the NFL, and so much 238 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: of the attention went towards the end goal. Uh that 239 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: it is hard like you don't play the super Bowl tomorrow, 240 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: and obviously that's that is where the Ravens want to go. 241 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: That is I certainly think that they're capable of doing 242 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: that this year and for several years. But there is 243 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: the challenge of trying to play the game before it 244 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: happens and and kind of taking the it's the cliche. 245 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: It's the cliche. One game at a time, one day 246 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: at a time, one snap at a time. Do you 247 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: expect any sort of a subtle or maybe a significant 248 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: change and mentality from Lamar and some of the leaders 249 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: on this team about how they approach things this season 250 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: after learning from that game last year. I mean, yeah, 251 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: I think they learned to pain for lesson that will 252 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: come into play uh if they get back to the playoffs. Yes, 253 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: I think that that experience will help them in playoffs 254 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: moving forward. I know there's gonna be a lot of 255 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: pressure on the Ravens obviously if they're fortunate enough to 256 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: get back to the playoffs, to get past the you know, 257 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: Lamar hasn't won a playoff game yet. Everybody's gonna bring 258 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: up what happened last year. But I think that it 259 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: will help the Ravens when they get back in that situation. 260 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: In that Yeah, I don't feel that they were overconfident 261 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: for that game. I mean, I just I just don't 262 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: feel that in my heart. I do feel that it 263 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: was difficult for them having nothing to play for in 264 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Week seventeen and having a bye to kind of be 265 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: as sharp from the get go in that game. Really 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: to get back to that momentum. I mean, I just 267 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: think it's hard when you have a by couple with 268 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: a Week seventeen where you have nothing to play for 269 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: to turn the accelerator back on, even though you know 270 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: it's the playoffs. And secondly, I think the Ravens learned 271 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: that once you get to the playoffs. The regular season 272 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: really doesn't matter at all. I mean, it doesn't and 273 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: it's just one of that too. They were on the 274 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: other side of that equation, the broncost with the team 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: that was supposed to win it all exactly, and it 276 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean, I think the Ravens rightfully so 277 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: thought they were the better team, but it doesn't matter. 278 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: And in the playoffs you're always playing somebody who's good. 279 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: They earned their way to the playoffs too, and if 280 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you haven't slip up, you're gonna get bounced. So they 281 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: learned that, I think in the most painful way you 282 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: can last year. I do think it will help them 283 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: if they are able to get back in that situation. 284 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I really do. But we'll see. Yeah, I gotta get 285 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: there first, and I think that's probably gonna be something 286 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: that I mean, Hardball is somebody who stresses that all 287 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: the time, get one percent better today, what's important now. 288 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's going to be something that that 289 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: rings true throughout the season in his team meetings and 290 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,239 Speaker 1: in the conversations he's having with guys. That with my expectation. 291 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk Jude on we got a 292 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: first chance to talk to Jude on this week. It 293 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: was the first interview that he had done, first pressure 294 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: he had done this offseason. So the Ravens apply the 295 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: franchise tag on hand back in March. He's recently signed 296 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: the franchise tag or he I think he signed it. 297 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: He has signed the franchise tag, but there's still time 298 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: to work out the long term deal. So that's where 299 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: we are right now. There's still that window of time 300 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: to work out the long term extension. But he made 301 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: it clear if he plays under the franchise tag, he's 302 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: not sitting out, He's not holding out. He's okay with it. 303 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: He said multiple times that interview. I'm pleased with the 304 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: franchise tag. I'm okay with it. Um. And this is 305 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: something that we all kind of expected because he's a 306 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: fifth round pick out of Grand Valley State who has 307 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: not made major money yet in the NFL and playing 308 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: under the franchise tag is going to allow him to 309 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: do that. So what do you think is the most 310 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: likely course of action for how this thing plays out? 311 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: There is just keeping one of the franchise tag. Does 312 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: he do they do they work out a long term deal? 313 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean they've been working on this for a while, 314 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. Um, my expectation is the tag. What's yours? Yeah, 315 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: that would be my expectation. As you know, obviously deadlines 316 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: sometimes can make things happen. If they're pretty close to 317 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: an agreement, the obviously they would want to have it 318 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: done by the JU team deadline because Judion does want 319 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: to stay here. This isn't a player. I think if 320 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: if they can come to some type of agree atman 321 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: that he thinks is you know, fair, and that he's 322 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: not giving up too much by giving up a chance 323 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: to be a free agent, he'd go on and sign 324 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: it because he loves it here. But you know, I 325 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: don't think that's what happened. I do think he'll play 326 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: next year under the tag. But I think that's fine. 327 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, because of how he reacted last year to 328 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: playing in a contract year. He's a player who's gotten 329 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: better every year. Last year he knew there was a 330 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of at stake and had his best season. Um, 331 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: he stepped up in every way possible. Not only is 332 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: a player, but you know, people talking about the loss 333 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: of Terrell Sugs Darius Smith that he had to take 334 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: on more of a leadership rule in that group. That 335 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be a problem for him either. His 336 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: teammates love him, respect him. Um. Yeah, I just think 337 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. Like he said, you know some guys, 338 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: sometimes people tell you things it'll be okay, and you're wondering, 339 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: what is it really gonna be okay? Uh? Not with 340 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: not with Judah not. Based on what I saw last year, 341 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have another great year. And he's 342 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: either want to get paid a lot of money by 343 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens before July fifteen, or someone's about to pay 344 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: am lot of money next year. Right. And and you know, 345 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: even if they don't work out a long term deal 346 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: before July fifteen, they could still work out a long 347 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: term deal after next season. Uh. Or they could franchise 348 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: to take him again next season. That would get really expensive. 349 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's a likely scenario, but 350 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: that is an option. Uh. You know what the best 351 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: part of his presser, well, there's two things. His his 352 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: pressors are always great. Uh. The best part of his 353 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: pressor was when he was talking about he wouldn't tell 354 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: reporters where he is. He's talked about being in his 355 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: own zone, own Zone USA, But also when he was 356 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: talking about his contract and Jeff's rebad from the Athletic 357 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: asked him about whether whether the fact that there has 358 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: been conversation around that the stalary cap could decline next 359 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: year potentially because of the pandemic, if revenues go down, Um, 360 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: if there's not fans in the stands, could the salary 361 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: cap actually decrease next year? Because the salary cap is 362 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: basically just a pie divided of the earnings. You take 363 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: the revenue, you divide it up. That's what the salary 364 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: cap is. So let's go ahead and roll the clip 365 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: of Judeon and Jeff's rec during that pressor this week. Man, 366 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: this is Jeff's rerec from the Athletic. Did you, um, 367 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of uncertain around the league with the salary 368 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: cap next year, not knowing the business, Uh, how the 369 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: business side is going to be affected because of the 370 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: pandemic and possibility no fans. Do you feel like that's 371 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: affected kind of the contract talks, kind of the uncertainty, 372 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: uh from the business standpoint. Like I, like I said, 373 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't really be knowing. I really wish I had 374 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: more like insight into the contract dog, But it's like 375 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: I get third hand information from my agents, and I 376 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: don't know if that's how everybody do it, if everybody 377 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: sit on calls and stuff. But I trust my agents 378 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: and so I don't. I don't really know. I feel 379 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: like you would have more insight on that, because yeah, 380 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be knowing stuff before I'll be knowing 381 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: it for real. So, Jeff, with the with us not 382 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: knowing what the Sally crab gonna do next year, would 383 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: they have more impact on my contract? Are you what 384 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: you're asking me? Yeah? I'm actually well, I think there's 385 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: been some predictions that the salary cap might go down 386 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: next year if teams lose a lot of money this 387 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: year without fans. Uh. So I think some people feel like, 388 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, that could affect some team's willingness to sign 389 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: players in general for long term deals. But I didn't 390 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: know if you were getting that sense too as part 391 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: of the talks. Now that way, I haven't been getting 392 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: that sense untail now. So I appreciate it because it 393 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: sounds like Jeff is basically when his contract negotiating for him. 394 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: Is that what's happening? That was funny? Um? Yeah, I 395 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: mean Juna is a lot more laid back than I 396 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: would be too. I mean it's like, you know, it's 397 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: like he's almost like I don't have anything to do 398 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: with my own negotiation, Like I wish they I wish 399 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: they would tell me more. I'm like, what you can ask? Right? 400 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: So to me, that's just another occasion that this is 401 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: not something that he's stressing over. Yeah, he clearly is 402 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: not stressing, which is good. I mean he's focusing on 403 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: being the best player he can be, knowing that if 404 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: he is, the money will come. And he's absolutely right. 405 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: I mean, pass rushers are coveted. He's a pass rusher 406 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: in his prime, adorable, um effective. Not only is a passer, 407 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: he's a complete, you know, football player as an outside lineber, 408 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: he's he's a player who helps you win football games. 409 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: So his mind is in the right place. He's just 410 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: a lot more casual about an He had not don't 411 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: have sacks last year. He's just gone up every year, 412 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, he improves. I think he's going to 413 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: just continue to get better. He probably I think he 414 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: probably gonna have the best season in his career this 415 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: year again, contract season. You add Clays Campbell, Derek Wolf, 416 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: the two young linebackers, Patrick Queen Lee Harrison. I mean 417 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: this defense. Justin made a BAK third round pick as 418 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: an interior pass rusher. The Ravens got better on defenses 419 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: off season without question, and someone like Judean is going 420 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: to benefit from Jalen Ferguson's gonna be better. So I 421 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: think Judean is gonna have a great season. I do 422 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: think his price tag is probably only going to go 423 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: up um, which is the downside of not signing him, 424 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: but that you know, there's also a benefit to having 425 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: him play under this one year cap one of your 426 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: franchise tag um and then the cap we'll see. I 427 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: think that's a big unknown. That's a big unknown. So 428 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: m all right. Another topic is Gus Edwards. He did 429 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: he did pressers this week and the thing with Gus 430 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: and we talked about this before the podcast, make and 431 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: I have like since the Ravens drafted Dobbins, there's been 432 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: talking about trading Gusts or trading Ingram are one of 433 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: these guys. I don't think any of that's gonna happen. 434 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: The Ravens are gonna have all four of these running backs. 435 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna have Gus, j K. Dobbins, Marktingram and Justice 436 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Hill on the team. And I still think there's a 437 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: significant role for Gus the bus. Do you see it 438 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: that way too? I do? Um, Now, definitely Dommins does 439 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: add you know something more to the equation. I mean, 440 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: most teams, really, none I can think of, have four 441 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: running backs and quality of what the Ravens will have. 442 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Dobbins is a player. Um, you're watching film 443 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: and him and watching him in Ohio State. I mean, yeah, 444 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: he could have been the best running back in the draft. 445 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: He he's a lead running back. To him, he has 446 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: a potential to be a league running back in the NFL, 447 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: a thousand yard running back. I really believe that. So 448 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: you're adding him to Mark Ingram, who already is that 449 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and then Gus and Justice Hill. So yeah, 450 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: I do think it will be interesting to see how 451 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: the carries play out. But to me, it's a pleasant 452 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: problem to half. I mean, you've got those four guys 453 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. You've got five runners in your backfield 454 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: who are a serious problem for the opposition. And Gus 455 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: is always shown that he's ready for whatever you give him. 456 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: Is always the bus is always gassed up, ignition, turned 457 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: on right, ready to roll. I mean as a rookie, 458 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: that was really impressive. What he did that season is 459 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: really you know, getting touches here and there, but not much. 460 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: Becoming a starter and being the lead running back for 461 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: a team that went on a six and one run 462 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: and made the playoffs. Then last season, that's different role 463 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: for him. As far as they bring in a Mark Ingram, 464 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: an established thousand yard runner, he just was always ready. 465 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: But Mark needed a blow when Mark got injured late 466 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: in the year. Whatever the situation, Gus is ready. So 467 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: that's not gonna change. Uh, He's gonna be fine. And 468 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: so if he gets you know, more carries next season, 469 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: which which could be hard, he'd be ready for that. 470 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: If he gets fewer carries, I don't think it's gonna 471 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: affect him, you know, as far as not being to product. 472 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: He's averaging five five point three yards per carry for 473 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: for his career, so I don't I don't think that 474 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: controduction is gonna change. And as Eric the Conston mentioned 475 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: when they drafted Dobbins, it's hard for running back to 476 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: stay healthy all season, and the Ravens want to run 477 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: the ball a lot, so yeah, having four running backs 478 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: is not a problem. It's just strength, particularly consider how 479 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens play. Hey you uh, you have a story 480 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: coming up on Dobbins for this weekend, right I do. Yeah, 481 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: this is a chance to plug your great work. Thanks. Yeah, 482 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: just a story. You know, Domins unfortunately, you know, lost 483 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: his dad Domins when he was fifteen years old. And 484 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: his father was a great high school running back in Texas, 485 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: did not make it to the NFL. So, you know, 486 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: I think the angle I'm taking is that Divis is 487 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: kind of j K. Divis is kind of finishing the 488 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: path that his father started. Um, you know, his father 489 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: dreamed of be an NFL player. Everyone who saw his 490 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: father play in high school leasy had that kind of 491 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: potential and now JK, you know, it's finishing, you know, 492 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: what his father wanted for himself and obviously would have 493 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: wanted for j K. And you know, Father's Day, like 494 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: all holidays, you know, it's it's too too kind of 495 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: reactions of holidays. You know, people celebrate, you know, their 496 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: fathers and you know, have great family get togethers, but 497 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: also for people who have lost fathers or don't have 498 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: fathers in their lives, you know, how a father's a 499 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: is a different type deal. So yeah, I mean we've 500 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about that. UM. J K though 501 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: is really excited obviously to start his NFL career. Um 502 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean he chose number twenty seven because 503 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: that was his father's number. Right. I think that that's 504 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: something that is interesting. I mean that was he wore. 505 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: He wore that number when he was a kid, um 506 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: because of his dad. And then over time he's stopped 507 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: wearing that number. Uh. He kind of said he it 508 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: was almost like rebelling against uh, your parents. And and 509 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: then obviously he's going back to it with Ravens because 510 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: when you picked that number, I think a lot of 511 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Ravens fans thought, alreay, right, he's he's and that's not 512 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with it that it's number, 513 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: that's right. So yeah, obviously he carries his father with him, 514 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: uh every time he takes it. Feel So yeah, I'm 515 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited about the seeing this young man what he 516 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: does with God. To me, he just uses with talent, Yeah, 517 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: he does, so, Cliff, before we go, the other thing 518 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about is on the social justice front. 519 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure if Ravens fans have seen the video that 520 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: the organization released UM on Friday. Players Matthew Junont talked 521 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: about how players are still having very deep conversations about 522 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: all of this UM and this is something that's going 523 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: to be top of mind for the players in the 524 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: organization over the course of the entire year UM, so 525 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: that we're gonna have lots of conversations about this. But 526 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: one thing that I do want as you're on the podcast, 527 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: I do want you to talk about is that you're 528 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: going to have a new podcast coming up this season. 529 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: It's in the works, so not sure exactly when that 530 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: will launch or what the timeline is, but could you 531 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: just talk a little bit about what prompted this podcast 532 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and what that podcast will look like. Well, Yeah, I'm 533 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: planning to launch a podcast, uh, entitled Being Black in 534 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, just talking about the topics that have been 535 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: so much a part of what people are discussing all 536 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: over the world the last few weeks, you know, social injustice, 537 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: racial equality, uh, things that you know, hopefully we're on 538 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: the move now to making you know, this country better 539 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: for everyone on in those areas. And I started thought 540 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: about doing a podcast even before you know, George George 541 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Floyd's murder that this is something that you know, it 542 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: could be a vehicle for guys to talk about their 543 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: interviews I do with players, not just since I've been 544 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: working for the Ravens, but throughout my career, where you'll 545 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: end up talking to a player about these type of 546 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: things wants the interview is over and there's really no 547 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: room for it in the story that you're writing or 548 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: in the interview that you're trying to do. But you 549 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: just you really really hits home how much players are 550 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: affected by a lot of things are going in the 551 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: world and that happened to them and members of their 552 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: family away from the game. So in this climate now, 553 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: with this being a topic of conversation and so many 554 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: people being moved saying that they want to make a 555 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: positive change, this podcast will be a vehicle for players 556 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: or coaches or people in the media to talk about 557 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: these issues. And you know, it's been said many times. 558 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes people shy away from discussing racial matters, 559 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: but the only way to make things better is to 560 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: talk about these things and keep searching for ways to 561 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: make it better. And yeah, it affects all of us. 562 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: It's not just a a black issue. It's a issue 563 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: for this country and this world. So yeah, it's something 564 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to doing and I'm hoping the 565 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: two objective is that it will make people think and 566 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: make people look at things in a way that hopefully 567 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: will lead to, in some small way, some positive change. Yeah. 568 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: Really well said, and I can't wait to see what 569 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: you come up with. I know you'll do a great 570 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: job with it, Um, and it's going to be something 571 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: that is is I think a real benefit to the 572 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: Ravens podcast network, UM, and something that at Ravens fans 573 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: will certainly enjoy and be fortunate to have on our channels. 574 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: So look forward to that, UM. Cliff, thanks so much 575 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: for joining us today, UM stepping in for make pulling 576 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: the weight uh from the writing department, So appreciate that. 577 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: And Frans. This season, when you trade up to RAM trucks, 578 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: you're getting power, luxury and technology like you never imagine 579 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: and you don't become the back to back motor training 580 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: truck of the year for nothing. And with a RAM 581 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred you can get a lot of everything. Rear legroom, 582 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: a reconfigurable center console, it's all available now, plus with 583 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: a lot more storage, or you can trade up to 584 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: the round and get four tens standard horse power and 585 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: a gas engine. For great deals and to find out more, 586 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: go to ram dot com. Cliff, thanks so much. Make 587 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: will be back next week, um, and so stay tuned. 588 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: We're working on a guest that we have coming up 589 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: for next week. Uh, a few things that we're working 590 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: on the guest front, So stay tuned and we will 591 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: talk with you again next week.