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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast knows how to pronounce. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another addition of the Round the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Handers and I'm joined by room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, Hey, Greg Rosa thought,

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Speaker 1: what up? Boys? An full house? How are you? How

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Speaker 1: are you mom? Good? It's been I really missed you

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Speaker 1: guys last week. You know, it was nice taking a vacation,

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Speaker 1: but it just wasn't the same. Did that our every

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Speaker 1: couple of day chats? Did you get our voicemail we

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Speaker 1: left for you? Is that how he broke the news

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Speaker 1: to you? Uh? Yes, I the news the Colt mccoin,

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Speaker 1: mccoin stunning development. Um, yes, I could not get any

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Speaker 1: phone calls in this remote location I was in, but

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Speaker 1: I got that when I got home. To just give

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Speaker 1: you an idea of how plugged in Sessler's to the

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Speaker 1: podcast when he's not on the show. He asked me

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Speaker 1: yesterday Sunday if that was part of the podcast from Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: All right, I have a little hatching up to Mark.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I want to immediately catch up with

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Speaker 1: you is you're from Connecticut, originally Yukon. Men's and women

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Speaker 1: both in the Championship Games Yukon Women thirty nine at oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts. I know you now

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't you know. I have not watched

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Speaker 1: a second of this of the men's tournament, and certainly

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Speaker 1: not a second of the women's tournament. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know that was intelligent. I didn't even know who was

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Speaker 1: in the championship game. I grew up a huge Yukon fan.

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Speaker 1: I mean my earliest memories as a gigantic fan. I

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Speaker 1: a young children, my father went there. Oh, so you

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Speaker 1: were like Scott Burrell and Dan Yelle Marshall George when

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Speaker 1: he hit the turnaround shot against Clemson in the sweet

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Speaker 1: sixte I was jumping up and down so much. I

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Speaker 1: was eleven or twelve years old. I slipped hit my

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Speaker 1: head on the back of an end table and got

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Speaker 1: all bloody. And and yet you still get out of

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Speaker 1: the chair to this day. The potential consequences of your actions.

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Speaker 1: I like that Greg was a died in the wool

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Speaker 1: The whale and then you know, one more thing before

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Speaker 1: question for you, Greg, because the first thing when I

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Speaker 1: heard about I needed to see what Greg Roseenthal thought.

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Speaker 1: Undertaker loses at Wrestleman and for the first time on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night and the streak of twenty one straight wins

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Speaker 1: in the main event, well, you just trying to provoke

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Speaker 1: us into anger to start the show. It still does,

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Speaker 1: It still does amaze me that smart like people, people

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Speaker 1: and they I'm not highfaluting. It's just hard to wrap

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Speaker 1: my mind right. Well, I am. I thought Undertaker had

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Speaker 1: to be off the scene for fifteen years at this point.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe. He's very old. He's very old. And

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Speaker 1: I won't say who it is. But in our newsroom

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Speaker 1: in that. Do you do you watch gold Stander? Behind

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Speaker 1: Great topper of the show. Um, we do have a

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Speaker 1: We get get some more mail, bad questions. We've been Mark,

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Speaker 1: We've been holding on too many of these waiting for

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Speaker 1: pomp Springs ideal timing Draft Day? This week? It's a

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Speaker 1: Name dropper. Mark your thoughts, well, I think number one,

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Speaker 1: A t L has like forty stories during the last

428
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Speaker 1: week in January where Crescent City is in it for

429
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Speaker 1: some reason, New Orleans another time if you return to

430
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Speaker 1: New Orleans that like Montezuma coming back from the battle,

431
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Speaker 1: you're just welcomed like a conquering here is at a

432
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: biblical reference or something like you just won this epic battle.

433
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Speaker 1: You can welcome back like streets of the city. It

434
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: was was it more like mante Zuma's revenge. It was

435
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Speaker 1: with a second that they announced that I just wanted

436
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: to still be employed and be going to Super Bowls

437
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: at that time, and I made it too. It was

438
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: pretty much career goal. Everything's downhill, alright, moving on, alright.

439
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Speaker 1: So we launched a new series offseason series on the

440
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Speaker 1: Around the League page on Monday, A roster resets, So

441
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through. Well, Greg, why don't you, you

442
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: are the boss, that's what they call you. Explain to

443
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: us what this new series is about. Well, it's not

444
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: just us. It's on nfl AM Total Access, it's on

445
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: our podcast. This is what the ladies and Gent's called

446
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: cross platform promotion, sellout, roster recess sellout. Basically, we're just

447
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: picking each division which teams improved the most this off season.

448
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: So we look back division by division, and we also

449
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: look ahead to what's next for each team. All right,

450
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: and who kicked it off? And if a f C

451
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Speaker 1: West with Chris Westling and he picked no surprise here

452
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Speaker 1: the Broncos as the team that improved the most in

453
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Speaker 1: the a f C West. Al right, West, So why

454
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Speaker 1: don't you give us, first of all, kind of an

455
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Speaker 1: overview of what you after doing all your research. What's

456
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Speaker 1: your overview of the division right now? I think the

457
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Broncos are stronger than they were last year when they

458
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Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowls. I think they're pulling away

459
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Speaker 1: from the pack. The Raiders are going closer to the middle.

460
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Speaker 1: Basically the I think Kansas City, San Diego and Oakland

461
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Speaker 1: I have mediocre teams. So there's mediocre in the middle

462
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: and the Broncos pulling away. So you're giving Oakland the

463
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Speaker 1: little credit by saying their mediocre. Sure, I don't mind

464
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Speaker 1: giving Oakland credit when they deserve it. They were sub

465
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Speaker 1: mediocre last year, they were brutal. It would be a gutsy,

466
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Speaker 1: softball pants pick to say they don't get to five

467
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Speaker 1: wins this year. I wouldn't make that. They did a

468
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Speaker 1: f a job of improving in a number of areas

469
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: they had. Mackenzie is a tough job. He had essentially

470
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Speaker 1: to feel like ten starting spots, if not more. Well,

471
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Speaker 1: let's let's look at what the Broncos did. They you know,

472
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Speaker 1: they pick up where t J. Ward keep the Leaevemmanuel Sanders,

473
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Speaker 1: Is there any risk here West that we're kind of

474
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Speaker 1: falling for the shiny team that spends the big money

475
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: and gets big names and we're just impressed because they

476
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: made a lot of moves. I don't think so, because

477
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: I think another thing that really isn't talked about. They

478
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: have going for them as they have more impact players

479
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: returning from injury than than any team, their best defensive

480
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: player Von Miller, their best offensive lineman Ryan Claydy, Derek Wolf,

481
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Speaker 1: one of their best run stoppers Kevin Vickerson, rune More

482
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: who has ranged at safety, pair him with t J. Ward.

483
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of things going for them now.

484
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: And frankly, the a f C just is pretty weak.

485
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Speaker 1: And how often do you see, you know, teams go

486
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Speaker 1: out and they're the big spender and they win the

487
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Speaker 1: offseason and usually they're like a middle league to poor

488
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: team the season before. This is the situation where the team,

489
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Speaker 1: which was to me clearly the best team in the

490
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Speaker 1: conference last year is the team that won off the

491
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Speaker 1: off season, So to me, I feel like the level

492
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: the chances of letdown are smaller, and a lot of

493
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Speaker 1: that's because Peyton Manning is still in the picture. Well

494
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: like last year was a Dolphins team that went out

495
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: and went crazy on the open market, but still a

496
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: lot of talent void there and they weren't able to

497
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Speaker 1: get someone. They overpaid for players for the Broncos. I

498
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Speaker 1: look at Emmanuel Sanders, is a nice edition and an

499
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: offense that you could plug him and it will be

500
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Speaker 1: very productive. And you're right if you want to give

501
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Speaker 1: Fox credit, what a good job you did last season

502
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: with so many injured players and they didn't skip a

503
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: beat and new parts. I think that's a great point

504
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: you made West about all the guys coming back, because

505
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: that's why they probably felt comfortable letting guys like Zane

506
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Beatles go, Eric Decker, Sean Phillips and Robert Ayres maybe

507
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: aren't world beaters, but those guys played a lot of

508
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: snaps for him. Wesley Woodyard played a lot. Rogers Carmarti.

509
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: They have lost people, but the roster still looks good.

510
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Speaker 1: Do you see a roster whole there that needs to

511
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: be filled through the draft. Well, middle linebacker they went

512
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: after Duquell Jackson, which suggests even though Nate Irving played

513
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: well down the stretch, that they're not sold on him yet.

514
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they like him on passing downs quite

515
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: as much. So middle linebackers one area, and I don't

516
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: know if they're done tinkering with their offensive lying you

517
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: or how about running back? I don't Fabiano has got

518
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Monty Ball on the top ten fantasy pick, but Monty

519
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: Ball and Ronnie Hillman is not a good backfield. It's

520
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: my too. I mean, I think there's a lot of

521
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: reasons to like Ball, but we just we don't know

522
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be when he's the bell cow. Just

523
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: get one more guy. That's considering John Fox's history. I

524
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: mean we've been as Greg and I used to do

525
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: fantasy football. Just you know, you throw your hands up

526
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: every single year because he always goes with a veteran

527
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: and he never trust a younger back. So this would

528
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Speaker 1: be a departure from character for him to rely on

529
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Speaker 1: Monte Ball. All right, what about the Oakland Raiders. We

530
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: touched on him a little bit a couple of minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Uh do you think in your mind, you think these

532
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Speaker 1: improvements that they are not going to be one of

533
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Speaker 1: the word teams in the league. Do you think they've

534
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: done enough to kind of at least gain some sense

535
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: of dignity back? Yeah, I think they I think this

536
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: team might have some dignity. They look like they're competitive.

537
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: You ranked the number two in this group of how

538
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: much they improve this office. They're gonna put on the

539
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: media guy for the Raiders. They might have some dignity.

540
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: If if Matt shop doesn't play like he did last

541
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Speaker 1: week or less season, than they might have some dignity.

542
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: Could you see Oakland? After all they've said about Shob

543
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: go out and take a quarterback number three or number five.

544
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: They need a quarterback, they do. They've talked about him

545
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: as as a guy who can compete with Peyton Manning

546
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers and who can be the answer for

547
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: three or four years. But the contract says they can

548
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: cut him in it really any time. It's crazy how

549
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: many guys they signed that will start right away. They're

550
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: not just signing a few key free agents. They signed

551
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: eleven free agents from other teams, and of those eleven,

552
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: I think ten will probably start it's insane. That's half

553
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: their starting in Woodley Tuck, Antonio Smith, Carlos Rodgers, Donald Penn,

554
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: More East Jones, Drew might start, James Jones, Austin Howard,

555
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Terrell Brown. I mean those are your starting lineup Oakland Raiders.

556
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: That's tough on Dennis Allen as a coach West Reggie

557
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Mackenzie and Dennis Allen what's today April seven, two thousand

558
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: fifteen employed by the organization by this time next year?

559
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Both gone? All right, let's move to the San Diego Chargers.

560
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Now in your post Western you don't have a lot

561
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: here for them. What does that mean? Does that mean

562
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: you didn't do your due diligence and put a poor

563
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: effort on this or is it something else? The most

564
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: frustra frustrating part of this exercise was writing about the

565
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: charges because they've been done. Donald Brown. What about resigning

566
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: SG A Jira too too? Well? Yeah, I did. I

567
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: neglected to mention that one. They did resigned Donald Butler.

568
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: That was probably the most important move. He's one of

569
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: their few young uh a few youngs orders on defense

570
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: who who you might consider above average. They also lost

571
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: clipboard Jesus, they did and replaced him with Kellen Clemens.

572
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: I think that's an that might be a net game.

573
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I think that's a game. I think that's an upgrade. Well,

574
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm only thinking about it. He hate me all stars,

575
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, great nicknames for poor players. Losing him is

576
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: so really not a football not at all, not at all.

577
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: They didn't lose anyone, so that's good, except that they

578
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: dumped some guys. They dumped Lauren McLean and Derek Cox,

579
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: who was the latter was one of the worst free

580
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: agent signings of laft season. The Chargers are essentially like

581
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: when Han Solo was frozen in carbonite, and at some

582
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: point they'll melt become a team again. I still want

583
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers to be frisky. I guess I guess my.

584
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching Rivers matter last year. I hope, I

585
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: hope they challenged the Bronco I think they need speed

586
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Uh. They need another

587
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: receiver behind Keenan Allen, and their cornerbacks were terrible this year.

588
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: They need help there that they have to be targeting

589
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the draft. Do you think right?

590
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Another cornerback is a big spot for them. But Keenan

591
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: Allen is as great as he was as a rookie.

592
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: You know, he's not what someone would think as a

593
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: franchise type wide receiver. They need somebody to put on

594
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: the other side of the field with him, right, Yeah.

595
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: You know we're used to for so long having these big,

596
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: tall deep threats Malcolm Floyd, Denario, Alexander, Vincent Jackson, and

597
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: now they don't have any of those guys. You see

598
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: them bringing in with Donald Brown in there, the same

599
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: offense next year where they're just gonna run the ball

600
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: forty five times a game. That seems to be I

601
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: think they really liked that. At the end of last

602
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: season when they ran they seem to uh find a

603
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: good mixture there. You mentioned getting improving the pass rush,

604
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: which is a great point. Melvin Ingram and Dwight Freedy.

605
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: Freedy was off to a great start last year but

606
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: then missed the season. He's coming back for less money

607
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: this year. He took a pay cut to State and

608
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: then you write, reward Ryan Matthews give a contract extending

609
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: to your boy. Do you think that happen. I don't

610
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: think that happens. Not After they signed Donald Brown to

611
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: a contract which was basically better than any running back

612
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: on the market got and he's only going to see

613
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: the ball five or ten times a game. Dammit, Donald.

614
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's one of those moves where if you get

615
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: halfway into next season and last year's Ryan Matthews is

616
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: still healthy and still chugging and give him some I agree.

617
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: Why why pay for a running back who could just

618
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: get injured this year? And finally, the Kansas City Chiefs West.

619
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Speaker 1: Do you think this is a team that's regressed? Well, yeah,

620
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: they've lost. You know, Chiefs fans have been killing me

621
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: ever since this went on Twitter. They've lost six thousand snaps,

622
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: three offensive lineman Tyson Jackson, Keenan Lewis. Uh such a

623
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: mad scientist move to add up the snap snap that's

624
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: why you're the mad scientist. That's a lot of snaps.

625
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a better team. They've lost too

626
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: much talent and they really haven't signed anyone except Vance Walker.

627
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Everything went right for them out of the gate last

628
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: year too, but their offense I thought, got frisky and

629
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: dangerous down the stretch and their defense fell apart because

630
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: they were no longer facing backup quarterbacks, which they did

631
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: in five Street games. At one point, you are down

632
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: on Dwayne bow with good reason. Uh, that's a major

633
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: U situation with them to find somebody that maybe he's

634
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: a legit number one, because he's starting to prove that

635
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: he can't be there. Guys, he needed a number two,

636
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: number three. Would I don't know. I don't know if

637
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: it would surprise me if he came in tip top

638
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: shape and regained his playmaking ability, but he didn't have

639
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: it last year. He was moving like a tight end.

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Speaker 1: They showed a lot of faith or maybe it was

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Speaker 1: just they didn't have much cap space, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of faith in the offensive lineman that they're that are

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Speaker 1: there because they let somebody walk away. You're right, Vance Walker,

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Speaker 1: who's a defensive tackle, is their biggest acquisition this offseason.

645
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Speaker 1: And here are the guys that have left, Brandon Albert,

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Speaker 1: John Asamoa, Tyson Jackson, Kendrick Lewis, Dexter, Mcluster, uh and

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz. All those guys are starters, and those are

648
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Speaker 1: just the highlands. That's a rough departure on the line

649
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Speaker 1: because that team maul Charles, that's the centerpiece of your

650
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Speaker 1: offense and you just want to run him all day long,

651
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Speaker 1: and Alex Smith is not going to sit back there

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Speaker 1: and throw it's unt of passes. I don't know that's

653
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Speaker 1: that's started last year. I'm not sure it's gonna plugging high, high,

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Speaker 1: highly drafted players into that offensive line, uh, Donald Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: Eric Fisher. But you know, also offensive lines take time,

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Speaker 1: and they need cohesive on this. Who knows how that

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Speaker 1: will work out. I'm interested to see. I don't totally

658
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Speaker 1: discount the idea that the Alex Smith and Andy Reid

659
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: excitement we saw it down the stretch last year was

660
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: a mirage. Maybe this is gonna be a pretty good offense.

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Speaker 1: Give Read and Smith some credit that they could keep

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Speaker 1: it going. They did it for more than half a season.

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Speaker 1: I give us some credit. West Well, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did it for I have no problem with that,

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Speaker 1: but they need better talent. Certainly doesn't sound that we

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Speaker 1: have not picked the A t L Podcast team of

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Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen right now. It doesn't look like the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to get that. I'm not back in

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, especially at the way their fans has to

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Speaker 1: be unanimous. I think this is a it has to

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Speaker 1: be agreed. I agree with you that you can block

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Speaker 1: that West veto. All right, let's move on. Good job there,

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Speaker 1: West Way to carry the show there for solid ten minutes. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we dip back into the mail bag mail because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we wanted Cecil to be back in

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Speaker 1: town to do this. Because some of these questions directly

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Speaker 1: involved Cessler. And I'll start with one. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: should I start with? This one will be this is

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Speaker 1: very Cessler centric. It's from one of our our favorite

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Speaker 1: Twitter guys and an avid listener. Uh and a good

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Speaker 1: fantasy guy at that rum for Johnny at Rum for Johnny,

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Speaker 1: has this question? Can a sandwich sand's meat be considered

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Speaker 1: quote elaborate you're asking me? Then? No, I mean you're

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Speaker 1: the vegetie. I don't really even like sandwiches in general.

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Speaker 1: What now? I don't mean again food, I don't really

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Speaker 1: like food that much. I think the answer that we

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Speaker 1: will all agree on is that no sandwich needs me.

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Can't can't just be letting this entire operation. I am

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Speaker 1: a sandwich last night the garage that did not have meat,

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Speaker 1: It was pretty good. Was the best sandwich you ever head? No,

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Speaker 1: would you call it? I would not call that a

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Speaker 1: high octane sand well, but Mark has no choice. I

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Speaker 1: think Mark is owed some sandwiches. Is that yes? But

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Speaker 1: and yours cannot have meat on it, so you have

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Speaker 1: to have an elaborate one without me. I just find

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Speaker 1: that that for for the vegetarian, This entire arrangement, this

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Speaker 1: bet is not something that I sit up at night

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Speaker 1: about thinking about excitedly. I think your guys are getting

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Speaker 1: the probably more expensive, high octane Who doesn't like sandwiches?

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Speaker 1: Are you American? I like peanut butter and jelly, so

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Speaker 1: I feel as bad for you as I do. Raphael

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Speaker 1: push so rump for Johnny, thank you for checking in. No,

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Speaker 1: it cannot be considered elaborate. This is also something revolving uh,

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Speaker 1: Mark's eating habits from Frankie Campos a frank Campo's j

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Speaker 1: What's more likely Mark Cessler eats meet again or Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling becomes a Cincinnati fan again. I think he's referring

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Speaker 1: to the Bengals. I'm a fan of the city, uh

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Speaker 1: and I like the Reds, but it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to become a Bengals fan unless well,

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. Well, if they made

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Speaker 1: a super bowl. No, it has nothing to do with that.

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Speaker 1: Well what if what if ownership changed? Okay, now we're

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Speaker 1: talking all right, and well so you would think that

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Speaker 1: West that's the more likely thing. But Cessler, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you want this out there, but you acknowledge

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Speaker 1: to us recently that you had a b LT last year.

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Speaker 1: I did. I did, uh and it was wonderful actually,

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Speaker 1: but you're asking down the road, would I feel like

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Speaker 1: a year ago I did it randomly b LT b

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Speaker 1: R A laborate sandwich for the VET, for the uh,

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Speaker 1: get my lunch. No, because I was gonna say that it.

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Speaker 1: No way would I return to becoming a meat eater

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Speaker 1: soas will be a Bengals fan. But you were, but

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Speaker 1: you were you already ate it right. I've experienced both

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Speaker 1: lifestyles and I am opting for the meat free diet. Greg.

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Speaker 1: This one is in your direction as the boss. How

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Speaker 1: about this is from Christopher A Ella C d I

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Speaker 1: Ella on Twitter. How about a longer podcast? Fifty minutes

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00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: just isn't enough to fit football and your side stories.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear more. We're on three times a

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Speaker 1: week and I think one of our best attribute is

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Speaker 1: we leave you wanting more. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: we don't want it. Once it gets over an hour,

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Speaker 1: then it's suddenly an hour thirty, then it's longer than

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Speaker 1: The Godfather Part two. Was thinking about just thinking about

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Speaker 1: an offshet podcast just filled with my Mailman story. I

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Speaker 1: like excellent. Um all right, and this finally, this is

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Speaker 1: a good one. To each hero. This is from Martin

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Speaker 1: Wired and that's M Wired underscore t HFC Martin, you

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Speaker 1: gotta work on that Twitter handle. To each hero, what's

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Speaker 1: your best memory as a fan of your team? And

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Speaker 1: what's your worst? And that's a good one. I like

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Speaker 1: that one. We'll start with Chris wessel Your let's go

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Speaker 1: with first your best memory. I don't really have a team,

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Speaker 1: but I can't remember like one single defining moment. I

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Speaker 1: guess I would say, Uh, my dad was a lot

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Speaker 1: like me, where he didn't really care much for the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: He had problems with their ownership, but he got excited

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Speaker 1: whenever Rodney Holman they're tied end from the eighties, would

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Speaker 1: just plow through the secondary and I liked him. He

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Speaker 1: kind of pulled a Greg and would jump off the couch.

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Speaker 1: So I guess my dad getting excited about Rodney Holman

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Speaker 1: and UH maybe James Brooks the eighties erab Bengals worst

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Speaker 1: moment UH the nineties, right, I would say if there

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Speaker 1: was a worse moment, my falling out with the team

756
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: came when UH I had a lot of issues with

757
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Speaker 1: how they were handling UH basically the entire operation, and

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00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Lee Johnson, their punter, came out and basically said everything

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Speaker 1: that I've been wanting to say about how the team

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Speaker 1: was run. I would he was a really smart guy.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it like a direct rip job. He

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Speaker 1: just basically diagrammed, this is exactly what's wrong with your organization.

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Speaker 1: Organization and Mike Brown cut him the next day, so

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Speaker 1: it was like a Sunday after a game, and they

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Speaker 1: have been an embarrassment for for you. I was like,

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Speaker 1: he cut you right there. In a way, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, like, your worst moment might have been when

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Speaker 1: you went to the office depot to get the folder

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Speaker 1: that would hold your dossier. While I worked in a

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Speaker 1: law firm, I have plenty of Mark Sessler. Your best

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Speaker 1: memory as a fan, best memory would be my father

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Speaker 1: surprised me, said we gotta go do some chores, getting

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Speaker 1: the car with me actually had packed bags, drove to

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Speaker 1: the airport and we went and saw a Brown's Steelers

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Speaker 1: game in the middle of the season. Was Bernie Kozar's birthday.

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Speaker 1: I had never been to Cleveland Stadium, so it was

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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't the biggest game on the planet,

778
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Speaker 1: but they wiped Pittsburgh up, and uh that was that

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00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: was excellent. Do you think Bernie KOs Are after that

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Speaker 1: win over the Steelers on his birthday, went out to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't know. You'd have to

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Speaker 1: ask bad bet cos are his former wife bad? All right,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice memory and your worst bad that it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure out of woman. I feel like

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Speaker 1: you better be good lucky to worst. Oh my god,

786
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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin with this franchise guy.

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Speaker 1: The worst would be at the year I was graduated

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Speaker 1: college is the same year that Cleveland moved to Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: and I had spent my entire college career majoring in

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00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: journalism and pr because I was gonna move to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: and that that December, because I graduated December and I

792
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: was gonna go work for the Browns. Bang Instead, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching art model on the steps in Baltimore, saying we

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00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: aren't in Cleveland anymore, we aren't the brown Is anymore.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing was changing. So my career aspiration shot.

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00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Three months later, I'm in New York City working in

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Speaker 1: the Columbia Library, shoving metal rods into books that would

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Speaker 1: set off alarm detectors when you leave, getting paid eleven dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now basically had like Lee Harvey Oswald's job, I essentially

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Speaker 1: followed in Oswald's footsteps. Do you think if Bodell was

801
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Speaker 1: better at managing his own money, they would still be

802
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Yes, I think there's a fair argument for them.

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Speaker 1: I just want to point out I had a factory

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Speaker 1: of sadness drop ready, and I was so sorry it

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00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: was too sad. It was too sad. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to do it anyway? You are a factory of sadness.

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Speaker 1: Greg Mark really appreciated that. Welcome back. Mark best memory,

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Speaker 1: best memory, it has to be the two thousand one

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, And really that whole season was better than

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Speaker 1: any season that will ever be for a Boston sports fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the Red Sax when the First

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00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: World Series as much as that season. You cannot top

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Speaker 1: what went on, just the quality of the games and

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Speaker 1: it coming out of nowhere. I was actually living out

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Speaker 1: here at the time watching the games early with some friends.

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Speaker 1: It was it was delightful, a dream. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: could beat that. They were a heavy underdog against the

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00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: juggernaut in New Orleans, the Crescent City win at the gun,

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Speaker 1: just dream season and they were five and five at

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Speaker 1: the time. So it was this whole run where you

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Speaker 1: kept thinking it was gonna end and they wouldn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And then the playoff games, each one of

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Speaker 1: them was you know, pretty delicious, right yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: touch game which was iconic, and it then it launched

825
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Speaker 1: a dynasty, so the game even gains that season gains more.

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Speaker 1: This must be nice to be a Patriots fan. That

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Speaker 1: was number one. My least favorite moment was or the

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Speaker 1: worst moment was after the Super Bowl, the second Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl loss against the Giants, worse than eighteen and one,

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Speaker 1: because at that point more years had passed, that team

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Speaker 1: was more likable. They were punched above their weight. There

832
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: was no reason for them to really be there that year,

833
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: and it felt like they'll probably never get back here,

834
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Speaker 1: and wouldn't it just be great? Belt Chick and Brady

835
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Speaker 1: get one more so you wanted it more, just one

836
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Speaker 1: more time, and just the way it ended that was

837
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Speaker 1: much more disappointment. I go into the locker room afterwards

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00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady is just sitting there with his head

839
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: in his hands, catatonic. Was a bummer. I'm going over

840
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Speaker 1: to the Giants. It's funny because I did not know

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Speaker 1: you at that point, but I was in the same

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00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: locker room. I'll never forget Brady, who clearly was injured

843
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: in that game afterwards, sitting on chair slowly pulling like

844
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Speaker 1: dark business socks up before he walked out with Giselle

845
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Speaker 1: in like a seven dollar suit. It's a bad scene,

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Speaker 1: as you'd imagine. Then I realized was in the winning

847
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Speaker 1: locker room. By the way, Seal was taking photos in

848
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: the winning locker room. That was where I realized, never

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Speaker 1: go into the losing locker room if you have an option.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think I did before or since. What's

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Speaker 1: the point you made me go into the losing line. Well,

852
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: you're covering that team. Um finally, yeah me my best

853
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: memory and uh, this really speaks to as someone born

854
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, how little has gone right for the

855
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Speaker 1: Jets since Joe Namath predicted victory and Super Bowl Three.

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Speaker 1: My favorite personal memories the two thousand ten Divisional playoffs,

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Speaker 1: the Jets going into Foxboro with Rex Ryan in the

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Speaker 1: second year, Mark Sanchez and beating that Patriots team that

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00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: was fourteen and two and Brady was the m v

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Speaker 1: P and Bart Scott after the game saying can't wait.

861
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Speaker 1: I watched that at a Jets bar in Burbank, and

862
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Speaker 1: I remember calling my father after the game and I

863
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: remember saying to him, this is it. This is the

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00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: team that's going to the super Bowl. We had the

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00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: Steelers next week. We had knocked off Peyton Manning and

866
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in consecutive weeks, and of course the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I think we're down seventeen nothing at halftime against the

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00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Steelers the next week and they haven't been back to

869
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs since. But at that moment, I thought I

870
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: was rooting for the best team in football. That memory

871
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: has gotten worse over time. It was the peak of

872
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the Rex Mark Sanchez um time together by far. And

873
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: then my worst memory is the best Jets team that

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Speaker 1: I ever watched was the Jets got knocked off by

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. In the a f C title game in

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. Elway had retired and the Jets were by

877
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Speaker 1: many accounts with Parcels as the head coach and Belichick

878
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: is the defensive court and they reviewed as the a

879
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: f C favorite. Playing the Patriots in Week one, first

880
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: play the second quarter, Vinny drops with a blown achilles tendon.

881
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: Out for the season. Parcels and one of his biggest

882
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: missteps as a coach, has Rick Meyer as the backup

883
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: sticks with him three or four weeks too long, and

884
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: the season is lost, and Test the Verdi's gone, and

885
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: that great Jets team with Keyshawan and Krebett and some

886
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: great players in defense, not even Ray Lucas could save

887
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: that season. Ray Lucas played well down the stretch when

888
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: six and three, but they were buried and they finished

889
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: eight and eight. And I remember being so in on season.

890
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: I went again with my dad. Jim Corbett of the

891
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Speaker 1: USA Today then working for the Journal News in Westchester,

892
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: gave us a tour of the Jets training camp, a

893
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: favor someone did for us, and I got to sit

894
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: in on a Parcels press conference. I was all in

895
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: on that team. I was so obsessed and they broke

896
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: my heart. That's my worst memory. And that's it. That's

897
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Speaker 1: it for the podcast. That was good. A lot of

898
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: heartbreak there for three and then one guy is just

899
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: sitting on top of the world. Heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, dynasty,

900
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: shattered lives. Basically no playoff wins for fifteen twenty years

901
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: before that A couple here are there two super Bowls?

902
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he lost them. But it's been

903
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: nice being a patience and in spite of some of

904
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: the painful loss in the last ten years. Yeah, I

905
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Speaker 1: feel like no one about it. You're being fair. No

906
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: one would. No one would argue that it's gonna and

907
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna. Let's see a career for the next couple

908
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: of years. Well, let's say you knew that next ten

909
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: years for New England's football team would be Wes's nine

910
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: nineties era with the Patriot with the Bengals, or would

911
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: you rather shave a limb off your body? Oh? I

912
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: would definitely just they can lose as many games as

913
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Speaker 1: they want. You're too close to the sport at this point.

914
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Speaker 1: I would take another ten years of Dave Shola as

915
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: head coach over losing a limb. Like, yeah, there's a

916
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Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of things less than that.

917
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Speaker 1: Then you could have gone with then lose a limb,

918
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Speaker 1: like if you had just said even like break your

919
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Speaker 1: pinky ones. I don't even think I don't even think

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Speaker 1: I would do Bengals teams. I may go with the limb.

921
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Speaker 1: They've got the Super Bowls. Look, I haven't even delved

922
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Speaker 1: into things like Mike Brown starting the loyalty clause because

923
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: Carl Pickens would rip on the Bengals, Corey Dillon saying

924
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: he'd rather flip Burgers didn't play for the Bengals. Ray Bentley,

925
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: a linebacker, came up and just play out way basically

926
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: just gave his head and laughed at him. I mean

927
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Speaker 1: it was. It was a laughable team. We could go

928
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Speaker 1: on and on on and on with all our teams.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we've gotta get out of here. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday with another show. Will be the

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Speaker 1: Four of Us. The gold Standard will be not with us,

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Speaker 1: but we'll have a special guest producer to be determined

933
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Speaker 1: until then. The stand handsOn signing off for the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Sizzler, the Boss, and the gold Standard behind the

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Speaker 1: Glass Sea, her Proster reset clipboard