1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: definitions of success. For real, for you, it may be 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: the size of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: accomplish their goals and live their very best life. That's 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: why I tell people all the time, basically it's time 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stores and start writing 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: your own. People always talking about purpose or gift. If 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: you have a gift, lead with your gift, and most importantly, 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: don't let your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: planning or living your dream. My guests don't show that 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: they are Tiffany Halls and Tianna Harris and Tea and Tea. 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Then starting a new original unscripted series for own ladies 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: who list Atlanta real estate. You know, I tell you something, 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you know? You know that's that's the whole world for 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: So it's really gonna be a really informed with the interview, 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: but really one of the few interviews I get on 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: the show that really they got to answer some personal 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: question about myself. Because I've been signed the paper, I 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: don't know what I've been designed in all these years 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: This shows about six top notch female real estate professionals 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: who sell the city of Atlanta while juggling active social 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: and personal lives. But in the business where relationships matter, 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: drama often comes with the territory. Let let me die 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: more detail about my guests. Tiffany Hawes graduated from Atlanta's 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: John Marshall Law School in December and prior to that laws. 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Prior to law school, ms Halls worked as a real 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: estate paralegal for more than eight years. Tina Harrison is 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: a rising superstar, as they say. She is attending Tennessee 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: State University of the Tract and Field Scholarship. Let's see 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: if she can still spread now, okay, and before receiving 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: her Georgia Bulldog degree from their University of Georgia. You 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: know she's bringing both for yous HBCU and national Championship, 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: So we gotta talk about that. We'll be discussing about 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: key things in the show real estate success, friendship, businesswomen, 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: which is really really important, especially with you know, women's history. 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Money had becoming so prominent, which is the month of 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: March every year on the calendar, motherhood, which is also important, 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: marriage and love. Please walking on to Money, Making Conversation 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Matter the Class from their own series, Ladies Who List Atlanta, 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Tiffany Halls and Tiana Harrison. How are you doing, Ladies? 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: There was a lot. There was a lot, wasn't it. 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: I know I missed the superstar, the Superstar super Bowl Husband. 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: I remember I missed him. I'm gonna talk about it. 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: So let's start with you. Tiffany, how is life treating you? 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Before the show? Because what I try to do one 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: making conversation masterclass. I try to get nuggets of information 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: because people and the sience want to be you in 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: a sense before you came on television, a lot of 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: people aspire to do what you do. What are some 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: of the mistakes that people make? Are soon when they 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: get it, when they get an opportunity to pursue your 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: career type Um, I think in the number one, thank 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: you so much for having me on your show. I 55 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: do want to show you my appreciation for that you. 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: But I think what in the world of social media, 57 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: A lot of people think it's easy or think that 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: success comes overnight. So in order for me to have 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: went to law school, I first had to graduate undergrad 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: So this law school thing and me becoming a lawyer 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: started back in two thousand and six and so ten 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: years from that is two thousand and sixteen, you know, 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: and now we're in two This is years and years 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: of work just to get to where I am. And 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: I think that in the world of social media, people 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: think that it happens overnight. So when their dream is 67 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: not happening fast enough, they think that maybe other people 68 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: had like a hand up, or somebody like you know, 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: gave them what they had. But in reality, anything, um, 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: any type of success comes with time, and it comes 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: with a lot of work and a lot of focus, 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of dedication and just simply sticking to 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: the path. And so what I would want people to 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: know from me is that this is definitely not a 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: dream that happened overnight. This is something that I've been 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: working on for years, for almost twenty years at this point. Well, 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: congratulations Tiana Harrison. Uh. They list to show, as you know, 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: they have a Kiana, she's a broker, Crystal she's a 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: closing attorney, Robin she's a broker, and a Tiffany she 80 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: mentioned her law background, she's a closing attorney. And Tianna, 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: you are a luxury agent. And cure as a luxury agent. Now, 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: what what are the word luxury? Because is that a 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: certain cut office five hundred thousand dollars and up luxury 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: a million dollars in up luxury? What is the word luxury? 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: Pop into the real estate business. I'm like I would 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: know if I'm in the luxury house basically, so Rishan, 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I would dive right into it. 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Um and I have actually adopted this from my counterpart 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Um Tiffany, that luxury is the ability to purchase period, 90 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: especially because there have been so many different disparities within 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: our community. So for me, luxury is being able to 92 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: get to the closing table to accomplish a dream um 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: home ownership. You stated that you have purchased real estate 94 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: on the commercial and residential side, so that is a 95 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: luxury in general. We are in the South, so it 96 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: could be subjective to price point. There are certain areas 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: that you can go to where luxury right might mean 98 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars up, and then other areas where 99 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: luxury is a million enough. So it just depends. Because 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: still with being in the South, you can definitely get 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: more for your money as opposed to our alternative bigger Cities. 102 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 104 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. I want to just tell your ladies. 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I find you compelling and so I 106 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: want to bring you back on my show. We're gonna 107 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: do this interview because I love having both of you, 108 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: But I also want to give you your value because 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: each one of you I could have spoken to individually. 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: That's how compelling you are because of the fact that 111 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I've done my research, and then it's it's you know, 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: the whole television show is a component that as to 113 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: why we're doing this interview today. But what you're accomplishing 114 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: as black women is equally powerful because of the fact 115 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: that you know, we all know discrimination the issues out there. 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: You are a woman, you are attractive women, and so 117 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: that means that there's a certain stereotype that can come 118 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: with that, unfortunately from men and also from women. Okay, 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: so when you when you when you're rolling through the 120 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: whole process, especially on the legal antiffany, what what do 121 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: you find this disappoints you as far as what the 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: people the perception that people have about you, and maybe not, 123 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but I've been black all my life, 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: so I know what. I know where the racism is, 125 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: and I know stereotypes is, and I know I've been 126 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: underpaid and i know I've been discarded because of the 127 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: color of my skin. Talk to us about your journey, 128 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: which I would led to this television show, But there 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: has been a journey, like you said in your earlier 130 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: speaking early appresentation, talk about that. Okay, So we can 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: talk about this UM in two ways, and this is 132 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: actually something that is kind of on the surface of 133 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in my life right now. But we 134 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: will talk about just being a black woman attorney UM 135 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: in Georgia, and so sometimes we are looked at as 136 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: if we don't have enough education to be able to 137 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: make proper decisions. I've had times where I would be 138 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: at the closing table and somebody would say to me, 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: or prior to the closing table, I'm gonna call so 140 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: and so white law firm to see if what you're 141 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: saying is legitimate, because I don't believe you. I don't 142 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: think that you know what you're doing, which is fine. 143 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: You know, this is what I tell people all the time. 144 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: We all passed the same bar, you know, and so 145 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: that that bar is what equalized all of us. It 146 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: didn't matter what school you went into, it didn't matter 147 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: your level of education. In order to become an attorney, 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: you had to pass that bar, and I did so 149 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: on the first time with flying colors. So when people 150 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: want to um say that maybe I'm not as educated 151 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: because the color of my skin, or maybe because how 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: I look, um, you know, I just take it with 153 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: a grain of salt because I know who I am 154 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: and I know my education, and I have a successful 155 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: black law firm in Atlanta that are that is doing wonderfully, 156 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: not just amongst people who look like me, but amongst 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: my other counterparts. They still support UM my business, and 158 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm just as successful because of them as well. UM 159 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: within our community there is so since the last episode, 160 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been able to get caught 161 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: up me and the other close an attorney. It's not 162 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: that we like each other or we dislike each other. 163 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: We've just never grown into having a friendship. And viewers 164 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: of the show have turned that into maybe possibly me 165 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: not liking Crystal because of the color of her skin 166 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: because she's darker than me, and so you're they're bringing 167 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: in this whole colorism thing. I did a lot with 168 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: my mother, which if people see my mother, my mother 169 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: is darker than every castmate on Ladies who List. Colorism 170 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: was a huge thing um with her and with the 171 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: upbringing of me, it is something that we talked about. 172 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: My mother was in a household where all her siblings 173 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: were lighter than her. Her mother and her father were 174 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: lighted than her, and so she grew up being the 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: black child and this shaped her into not even wanting 176 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: dark skinned children because she felt like the darkness of 177 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: her skin was negative, which is why you have me 178 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: a mixed child, you know what I'm saying. So it's 179 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: really deeply rooted. It's a really big issue, and it 180 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: has affected my family seriously. And to have viewers try 181 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: to accuse me of doing so, which I never respond 182 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: to any of the entertainment opinions, but this kind of 183 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: hit me hard because I know personally what I've gone through, 184 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: So you kind of get it from both sides. But 185 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: in all of it, you have to I have to 186 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: remain positive and grateful that number one, I even have 187 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: this platform to be able to discuss issues like this. 188 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: And I have this platform to show people it doesn't 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: matter if you're black, it doesn't matter if you're white. 190 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: You can succeed and and do what's necessary to get 191 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: to wherever you want to go. Wow, And I understand that. 192 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: And I have six sisters, two brothers, you know, and 193 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting in the black family, nobody's the same shade, right, 194 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, Dad like because she's that college, she's moking. 195 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: But Tiana, you know, you you know, to do this show. 196 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: That's when I interview people who on these type of shows, 197 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: these unscripted shows. You know, you can become a victim 198 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: of editing. You can become a victim of the story. 199 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: You know, that's not that's not how where they went. 200 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: But they're trying to be entertainment, and you have to 201 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: deal with it on social media. You have to explain 202 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: yourself sometimes. Now, you know, I I know why we 203 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: do this. You know, we try to broaden our career, 204 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: we try to build our brand. We're trying to build 205 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: our social media. Also, these basically can be giant info 206 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: commercials if it works out right. Okay, now, you being 207 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: who you are, you know you already come from I 208 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: would say a celebrity type background because of your your husband. 209 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's high profile football players, super Bowl champion twice. 210 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: This Bridge Dealers, by the way, my favorite team. Okay, 211 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: so I throw that out there and so so talk 212 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: about you know, because that can come into your to 213 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: this conversation and I'll be honest is with you. You 214 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: know that was a huge part of your bio, was 215 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: him and I cut it out. I ain't ain't they 216 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: got nothing to do and what people want to throw 217 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: that in? So so, but you're trying to build you 218 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: who you are, your brand. Talk about the leveling of 219 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: trying to build your brand and while you're doing this 220 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: show a right, So you know it's it's a little 221 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: bit of a challenge because while my brand is something 222 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: that I had to get out there and work at 223 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: and work on, my husband is an integral part of 224 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: my journey. So if you know me, you understand that 225 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm so inclusive, totally inclusive of the black male leadership 226 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: influence like that is my thing. So I never want 227 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: to exclude him from my story. So I was I wrong? 228 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: Was I wrong? I was wrong? You were absolutely on 229 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: top of it and that and I'm glad that you 230 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: brought that up, but I have to tell you how 231 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: much I promote um men in your position. I promote 232 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: men in my husband's position because he supports who I 233 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: am and he supports what I do, and he would 234 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: have had the same response that you did. Wait a minute, 235 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: this is a dominant black female who was doing amazing things, 236 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: So that is his stance as well. So when it 237 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: came down to that, you can't negate the story exactly. 238 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: But as you're stating, I had to put in a 239 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of groundwork to get me where I am right now. 240 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: I had to cultivate a lot of different relationships. I 241 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: had to make sure that the respect was mutual on 242 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: both sides of the fence, as far as you know, 243 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: within my clientele and as far as our household. So 244 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: having that having that respect from him and for him 245 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: has totally been a been instrumental in my progress, in 246 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: my development and the success that I've had. So I 247 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: hope that answers it a little bit. He's great at 248 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: what he's does, what he does, and what he has 249 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: done in the past, but we have triumph through some 250 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: very difficult times. So I didn't come into this you know, 251 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: with the financial status that some may feel. But we 252 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: work together throughout those transitions of football to get to 253 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: where we both are right now, there you go. I 254 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. We'll be right back with 255 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's 256 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, 257 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: I gotta this is what the end of you become selfish? Snap, 258 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, because I bought a few houses in my time. 259 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the closing attorney here, okay, and they 260 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: slide that big old piece of paper in front, I 261 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: mean piece of pa. I wish it was a piece 262 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: of paper. I may take the time to read it. 263 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: It's about it's a Bible. It's really a Bible. Nobody 264 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: reads a Bible in one day. Okay. And you gotta 265 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: close on the day that they tell you too. So 266 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: could you please tell me Tiffany has no first time 267 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: ball passed it? Georgia Law, you know it, black and white? 268 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: You the best? What is it that deck of pages 269 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: that I can't under I can't take time? What the 270 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: end if the order? Because of that? Who your cousin 271 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: named by being there? You know? Help me out. Okay, 272 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: So let me let me write this down. If it's 273 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: if you're buying a property cash, the paperwork is not 274 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna be that heavy. It's gonna be about ten documents, 275 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: and those documents are gonna be in favor of the 276 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: law firm. If the law firm messes up, this is 277 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: how we can get our money. This is how we 278 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: can fix the issue, and you have to agree to 279 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: fix it. Okay. So when you are and it's it's 280 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: pretty much that simple. When you're getting financing, that's when 281 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: we're happening bible stacks of paper. And so the way 282 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: that I try to tell my first time home buyers 283 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: is this, these are all the ways the lender camp 284 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: or close on you if you stop paying for your mortgage. 285 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Every document is here because at some point a lender 286 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: was sued and they want or maybe a lender tried 287 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: to foreclose and they couldn't, So all the documents are 288 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: in favor of the lender to make sure that if 289 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: you don't pay your mortgage that they can get their 290 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: money back. So, as a buyer, what is important to 291 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: you out of this hundred and fifty page stack of paper? 292 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: What is important to you. Number one, what's important to 293 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: you is going to be your clothes and disclosure or 294 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: your settlements ement. This is what outlines all the numbers. 295 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that your credits are there. 296 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: If the seller is giving five thousand dollars and closing costs, 297 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that's there. If you have 298 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: put down earnest money, you want to make sure that 299 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: that's there. You want to make sure the lender is 300 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: not overcharging you. You want to make sure that the 301 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: attorney's office is not overcharging you. And what you expected 302 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: to bring to closing is on that closing disclosure. The 303 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: next big document that you want to make sure is 304 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: correct is your note. This is your promise to pay 305 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: back this loan, and it has your interest rate on there. 306 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: So the whole time you've been speaking to your lender 307 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: and your lender has said that you were getting a 308 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: two point five percent interest rate, but you get to 309 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: my closing table and that note says five percent. Your 310 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: interest rate is five percent. You want to make sure 311 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: that on that note it has your proper interest rate, 312 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: and so that is a document that you care about. 313 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: You also care about the title to your property. You 314 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: want to make sure that your name is spelled correctly. 315 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that the legal description is 316 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: correct so that you're buying and purchasing the correct property. 317 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that if you have a 318 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: spouse that's supposed to be on that D, that they 319 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: are on that D. Okay, You also want to look 320 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: at your amorti zation. This is the most scariest document 321 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: out of all of them, right, it's all scary. It's scary. 322 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Now, this one's scary scary because 323 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: you're borrowing two hundred and fifty thousands, but yet you're 324 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: having to pay back seven hundred thousands. So this amortization 325 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: outlines that, and it shows you how your scheduled payments 326 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: go over the full life of the loan, and most 327 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: of the time people are getting dirty years for the loan. 328 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: But I also educate you that if you pay more 329 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: down on your principle, now this amortization it switches, it changes, 330 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: and now you're not paying as money back with the 331 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: additional interest as you should after that. Honestly, doesn't matter 332 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: what you're signing, you're either gonna agree to it and 333 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: get your house or you're not. The lender is not 334 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: going to negotiate anything. So sign them papers I have 335 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I have to not be signed now, Tianna. Now so 336 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: you walcome me into this door. You know, you know 337 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I've never met Tiffany in my life. Usually that's the case, 338 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I've been working. You 339 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: run me all over the neighborhood, walk me to some properties. 340 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: I kind of like, I don't like you know, you know, 341 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: you might have oversold some stuff and not walking in 342 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: and go okay, really I don't know about that. You 343 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: tell me. You know, they might say a million. I said, 344 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: I want five hundred thousand. You said, look, you might 345 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: will get out of this buildingcause a think nobody gonna 346 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: give you that price for that. So you try to 347 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: keep a certain level of sanity in my purchasing mind. Now, 348 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with a person and they how do 349 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: how do you establish that relationship with a potential client? 350 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Just walk us through that step process that you do, Tiana. Okay, 351 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: so you know, first things first, we have to have 352 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: a consultation. I have to see where you are and 353 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: you have to you know, go through mine process and 354 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: see if it works for you and you're you know, 355 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: you could be you, It could be you and your family, 356 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: It could be you and a sickn se can other 357 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: UM and so it just has to work for you. 358 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: We have a consultation, we discuss the things that are 359 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: important to your purchase. UM. We we talk about whether 360 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna finance the property or whether you're gonna purchase 361 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: the property cash or whatever. You know, way you're going 362 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: to UM get the property conveyed to you. Typically it's finance, 363 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: And as Tiffany discussed, once we get there, you're gonna 364 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: get that stack of papers. But prior to we're gonna 365 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: go out and we're gonna look at homes whichever you're 366 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with that approval mount is, then we're 367 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna go look at homes within that realm and decide 368 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: on what's the best property for you investment wise, because 369 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: I oftentimes when people purchase their first property, it's not 370 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: there forever home, and you have to understand that you 371 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: may not get everything that you want within that first property, 372 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: but it is your tool to building wealth for the 373 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: next property or for the properties succumbed down the line. 374 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: So it's vitally important that you speak with a reputable 375 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: agent who understands the market and who is knowledgeable in 376 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: the market, because markets change and trends change. So once 377 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: we find the home of that you want, or find 378 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: a home that's best fit for you, then I link 379 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: you with my preferred closing attorney, Tiffany and her the lender, 380 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: and myself we get together so that we can successfully 381 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: get you to the closing table. When you meet Tiffany 382 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Um as a first time HomeBuyer, she walks you through 383 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: every single step of the thick stack of paper that 384 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: you'll go through, and you're gonna say, why am I 385 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: signing a document three or four times it says that 386 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: if this property for a close, it's got dot dot 387 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: And it's because they have to tell you over and 388 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: over again what it is that you're signing. And so 389 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: we just basically, I'm a call me. I'm a calming 390 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: agent to get you through this process because it can 391 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of ups and downs, and so I'm 392 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna hold your hand the hallway girl, and make sure 393 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: that you're okay even when we get to the bumps 394 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: of the road. I am enjoying this interview. I'm talking 395 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: to two of the stars and six of them. But 396 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking only to of the ladies who list Atlanta 397 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: is uh six top nots females in the real estate 398 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: of profession seldust and they of Atlanta. And you know, 399 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: it's a reality show docuseries, so they have drama. They 400 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: talk about their personal lives and sometimes arguments, which I 401 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: always hate when I see arguments on the show. You know, 402 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: they always want to always want to magnify the argument, 403 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, like there's confrontation. That's uh, that that drives 404 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: my my reason to watch. What drives my reason to 405 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: watch this intellect, if I drives my reason to watch, 406 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: is being able to get information. I think that's what 407 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: we've advanced. And I appreciate this conversation. And you're delivering 408 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: exactly what I thought I would give from you. You 409 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: guys have educated me, educated my audience because of the 410 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: fact that this show has value and and a lot 411 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: of people don't understand that because they don't get caught 412 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: up into the looks to close the houses. The tone 413 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: of the show where the tone of the show. It's 414 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: about six intelligent women who are making inroads into this business. 415 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate that I'm getting to speak to two of them. 416 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: And if you listen to this show, watching this show, 417 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: I hope your biggest takeaway is I want her to 418 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: be my closing attorney. I want her to be the 419 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: person that shows me to my next home in the 420 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: city of Atlanta or the state of Georgia. Because relationships, 421 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: you want somebody who sells you your home to go 422 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: into a room with the closing determine that they know. 423 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: That is very key because of the fact that if 424 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: you're going and and I have been in the something 425 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: in Texas and bought homes and Texas a bout homes 426 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: and Houston and Georgia as well, and I've been in 427 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: the room where you know that person sitting across who's 428 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: through the title attorney because they have these big companies around. 429 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: If you walk around there, like it's like two or 430 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: three companies just dominate all the I will sign it, 431 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, and they're just strange, the like H and 432 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: R block of titles. Can you should and they don't 433 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: even know who you are and they're just gonna push 434 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: the paper around you. I really appreciate the relationship that 435 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: you have and you that you bring it into a family. 436 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: I call it a family. Do you do you agree 437 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: with what I'm saying, Tiffany, Um, Yes, So it's kind 438 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: of the same here. A lot of people look at 439 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: this as a process that the business transaction. I've worked 440 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: for several um different attorneys where it was it was 441 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: just the meal, like we get people and we get 442 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: them out. I kind of even though we do the 443 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: same thing here, I've kind of slowed it down a 444 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: little bit. I implemented closings where we actually celebrate the 445 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: buyer and the seller. So we'll have champagne here, we 446 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: will have parties, sometimes we will have just different celebrations 447 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to let the buyer know, like, you made it this far, 448 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: this is a celebration. This is not just a business transaction. 449 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: We take um pictures of the buyers when they're here, 450 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: and we have a key chain where we document their 451 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: closing and we give that to them as a gift. 452 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: It's a personal, small gesture, but it lets them know 453 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: that you're not just another person walking in here. We 454 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you, we are excited for you, and we are 455 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: going to celebrate you at the Halls Law Firm. So, yeah, 456 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: you do have these big title companies where it's just business. Well, 457 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: here it's not just business. You become a part of 458 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: our family and we celebrate your family, and you're closing 459 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: on your home. Well, you know, I want to close interview. 460 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: But just switching over to Tiana Harrison, I said, earlier 461 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: in your academic career, you spend time at Tennessee State University. 462 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: We all know now you graduated from Georgia and Athens 463 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: bulldog National champion. But we also know that the publicity 464 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: UH and the HBC s you are getting, HBC schools 465 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: are getting factor also we can at an HBCU game 466 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and so when you look at that, what do your 467 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: what do is your take on the surge of information 468 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: is being distributed and being promoted by HBCUs. I think 469 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: that it is amazing that they're getting this publicity. UM 470 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: for HBC USE because I think it's a long time coming. UM. 471 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: I am a My mother attended an HBCU. She attended 472 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee State University. UM my cousins are I mean down 473 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: the line. My cousin is Wilma Rudolph, who is an Olympian. UM, 474 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: a famous olympian who attended Tennessee State University. And so 475 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: as far as HBCU, HBC use and the attention that 476 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: they're garnering. I think that it's just a long time coming, 477 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: and I am excited to see what the future holds 478 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: because of what has existed within the you know, collegiate 479 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: realm of athletes that have gone to predominantly white universities, 480 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: and now there's a switch up, and at a certain 481 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: point in time, there must always be a pivot and 482 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: a switch up. And we're gonna see what happens next. 483 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome, as I want to thank both of you 484 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: guys who are coming to your ladies give me that pass. 485 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: We're saying, guys, ladies who list Atlanta, Tiffany Halls and 486 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Tiana Harrison is on the own network. They're fantastic. I 487 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: know we're talked more about them than this show, but 488 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: they are the show. There are two of the fantastic 489 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: stars of the show's Ladies who List Atlanta, please come 490 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: back on my show. I really appreciated the time and 491 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: the energy, and y'all good talkers too. 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