WEBVTT - “I’M LOOKING FOR MEANING”

0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Hello.

0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can hear you.

0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up. What's your name?

0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.520
<v Speaker 2>My name is Dylan Dylan.

0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Have we ever talked before? Dylan?

0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.760
<v Speaker 2>No, we haven't, not at all.

0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:14.800
<v Speaker 1>What's up, man?

0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.720
<v Speaker 2>How you doing A few times? Well?

0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:18.040
<v Speaker 1>You doing?

0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeh? I'm looking for meaning, looking for meaning in life.

0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to not find myself waking up

0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:31.200
<v Speaker 2>at the end of my life and looking back and

0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.080
<v Speaker 2>realizing that I didn't live it along the way.

0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of waited, Yeah, yeah, I would be

0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.440
<v Speaker 1>happy to talk about that. How old are you?

0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Thirty five?

0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you do? You do you think you've

0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:59.120
<v Speaker 1>been well? I guess that would start with, like, as,

0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>what in the first thirty five years of your life

0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.160
<v Speaker 1>have you been doing or or valuing?

0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:17.480
<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah, well flash summary of thirty five years deck.

0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I was raised hyper religious and a pseudo kind of

0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.160
<v Speaker 2>cult like branch of Christianity. I came to like the

0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Westboro Baptistricts. Got out of that. Whoa, yeah, you can.

0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Keep keep keep keep going. No no, no, top, I'm gonna

0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sit back and shut up keep going.

0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.560
<v Speaker 2>So eighteen ran Off joined the army, went to Iraq,

0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.960
<v Speaker 2>fell in love with dow in my unit. We were

0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.680
<v Speaker 2>together during our deployment, talked under the stars in the

0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.120
<v Speaker 2>desert and thought that it was going to be forever

0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and if we could get through war, then we could

0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the rest. And didn't it turn out to be what

0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought. We were just young, and you know, she

0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go in and see what other options life has.

0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.080
<v Speaker 2>And I don't blame her for that, you know, Like

0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, we were both kids, but I took it

0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:24.040
<v Speaker 2>hard for the first fifteen years after that, and I

0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't had a relationship since working Can I can?

0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I can?

0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I can?

0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I stop you for I want to hear the rest

0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of your life story, but you say okay. To sum

0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it up, Yeah, you met this lady in your unit,

0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and you guys really fell in love with each other

0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and things didn't work out. She tried to pursue other options,

0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.720
<v Speaker 1>which I and you guys met when you were eighteen, Right,

0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:55.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what you say? Uh? You kind of alluded to

0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.720
<v Speaker 1>saying that it hit you pretty hard for the for

0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.240
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years after that. Tell me more about that.

0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well, but basically my entire twenties in the

0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.959
<v Speaker 2>last I guess, like nineteen in the twenty and in

0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:18.480
<v Speaker 2>my entire twenties. I just was in a deep depression,

0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, working dead end jobs, and I ended up

0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.800
<v Speaker 2>in factory in the back room for six years, just

0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of going through the motions of getting money to

0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.560
<v Speaker 2>pay the bills and then going home and watching YouTube.

0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.720
<v Speaker 2>And I finally woke up when I had a very

0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:45.200
<v Speaker 2>close friend to past and I kind of got faced

0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.160
<v Speaker 2>with a decision where I was like, well, I could

0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:52.520
<v Speaker 2>either kind of give up or I could try, and

0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.840
<v Speaker 2>so I chose to try. But now I'm there. Now

0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.040
<v Speaker 2>that's where I'm at. I met this place where I'm like,

0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm paralyzed, existential paralyzed, pterialism.

0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I'm not trying, why I'm not

0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:13.119
<v Speaker 2>doing this thing.

0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.040
<v Speaker 3>I want to.

0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me, let me ask you to clarify

0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.400
<v Speaker 1>something you said. You woke up one day and then

0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.479
<v Speaker 1>decided you wanted to You said you had a friend

0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.960
<v Speaker 1>pass away and that was kind of like catalyst for you,

0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.480
<v Speaker 1>as you say, trying. How long ago was this.

0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:41.039
<v Speaker 2>In July twenty one? Yeah, Well, the only real friends

0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.800
<v Speaker 2>person I talked to about everything. We're just friends friends, friends, yeah,

0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:52.360
<v Speaker 2>not romantic. Yeah, but it was the surprise that happened fast.

0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.280
<v Speaker 1>When you said you were just working back a little bit,

0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you said that there's this thing with this girl hit

0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you hard for fifteen years. When you say you were

0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.839
<v Speaker 1>in a depression, are you not saying you were in

0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a depression? I was thinking about that relationship for fifteen years.

0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Would you were you?

0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it was it was a mix of things.

0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I ended up losing my state that I had in

0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:27.360
<v Speaker 2>my childhood around that time, and just like I just

0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:28.799
<v Speaker 2>fell into a deep stage depression.

0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I think it was.

0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Caused by a lot of different things, but one big

0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:41.599
<v Speaker 2>thing was definitely Yeah, I felt pretty worthless and not

0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:49.760
<v Speaker 2>worthy of people's time. I guess after that relationship so apart,

0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't deal with it very healthily for those for

0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:53.719
<v Speaker 2>that period of time.

0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.679
<v Speaker 1>And you say you lost, you say you lost your faith,

0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like religious faith.

0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah. I got exposed to more things in the world,

0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I went overseas and I was in

0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a part of the downtown bank Dad and we were

0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.880
<v Speaker 2>rolling through and I saw people shopping and people eating,

0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.240
<v Speaker 2>kids playing with a soccer ball in particular, and just

0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of hit me that for the most part, they

0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:28.320
<v Speaker 2>were just people there, they weren't the evil Islamic other

0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I don't know, it's well, I mean, I.

0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Mean, yeah, you said, you said you grew up in

0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the Westboro Baptist Church, right.

0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, kind of a branch of uh what'd call

0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:48.279
<v Speaker 2>the first Baptist Northern Baptist Church that idolized the west

0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Bureo Baptistrict's not actually part of the west Boro baptistricts.

0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:57.560
<v Speaker 2>But we looked at them guys as like heroes on

0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the front line.

0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.039
<v Speaker 1>But but you you know, yeah, you're going up in

0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a church that's basically like telling you, like those guys

0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.160
<v Speaker 1>over there, you know, are are are? You know that

0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you're they're fucked up.

0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, that they're evil in some way. And then

0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.880
<v Speaker 2>they were just people when I.

0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Got right right.

0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Yea, you you said in twenty twenty one, you woke

0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.200
<v Speaker 1>up and you were like, I'm gonna start trying. What

0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:27.280
<v Speaker 1>does that mean?

0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess it. It meant like, I looks for a

0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.960
<v Speaker 2>better job. I got in at the male clinic insecurity,

0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it paid better and had more opportunities

0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:52.160
<v Speaker 2>as a career path. I thought that that was trying more.

0:07:52.600 --> 0:08:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I was hoping to maybe try writing. I don't know,

0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess I guess I felt like I put my

0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.920
<v Speaker 2>life on pause during the depression and didn't really try

0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.400
<v Speaker 2>much of anything beyond just going through a dead end job,

0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:17.040
<v Speaker 2>getting enough to pay for necessities in my rent and

0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.960
<v Speaker 2>then that was it, you know, not a lot of

0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:24.560
<v Speaker 2>social activity and not a lot of anything other than consuming

0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.680
<v Speaker 2>YouTube content that are going on Wikipedia.

0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.160
<v Speaker 1>So when you said, when you say that you're you're

0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like looking for meaning and you don't want to wake

0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.439
<v Speaker 1>up at the end of your life and feel like

0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it was unlived. There's a power, there's a powerful uh

0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.760
<v Speaker 1>desires what But so you cut like to audit yourself

0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and audit your brain? I mean what, like what do

0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you value? I mean that's the thing, is like you

0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.319
<v Speaker 1>can't really search for meeting you like kind of create

0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it from within and decided, uh, you know, for yourself.

0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So what what?

0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.240
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.080
<v Speaker 1>When you are thinking about these things, have you like

0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.640
<v Speaker 1>decided for yourself is meaningful?

0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I guess that's yeah, I mean, I've I mean

0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.000
<v Speaker 2>that's literally I guess. The question the existential crisis part

0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.080
<v Speaker 2>of it is just like how do you create meaning?

0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:33.120
<v Speaker 2>How do I create self? Value or work, you know,

0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.240
<v Speaker 2>without like trying to find validation from other people, because

0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.760
<v Speaker 2>that's been like my stumbling block because I do die

0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.679
<v Speaker 2>your validation from other people that I don't get it.

0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no no at a certain point, God,

0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to like fucking mentally get there. But

0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm also having the some epiphanies of like, you truly

0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.040
<v Speaker 1>have to build you if you if you if your

0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:07.480
<v Speaker 1>car runs on the engine of other people's validation, you you, uh,

0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you're just fucked.

0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:09.360
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to kind of build, you have to really

0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.480
<v Speaker 1>build like a solid foundation of like deciding that your

0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:24.600
<v Speaker 1>fucking life matters and that do your you care about

0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.520
<v Speaker 1>your having a good life? Uh? But again like I, uh, well,

0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.920
<v Speaker 1>what makes what would make you have a good life?

0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you what do you want? My dog?

0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I think connection with some people would be good, But

0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:45.040
<v Speaker 2>it feels like this herculean task, you know, because now

0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm got so much life baggage, you know, how do

0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I just show up and dump that on somebody's laugh

0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, or expect as an adult? You know, it's

0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.800
<v Speaker 2>just like you just bring so much more to it.

0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.880
<v Speaker 2>When we were on the playground as kid, you had nothing.

0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.480
<v Speaker 2>He just walked up and said, I want to be friends. Yeah,

0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and now we're friend cool.

0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:13.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh man, you know, I totally feel where

0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you're coming from. Dude, I really do, I really feel

0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:21.160
<v Speaker 1>where you're coming from. And uh, I'm I can off.

0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna off for a thought to you, Why

0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.880
<v Speaker 1>do you do you feel like it is so necessary

0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to let that baggage, uh define you?

0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Why?

0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Like? Why? Like why are you holding onto it? Why?

0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Like in your brain you're talking about like I I

0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like even just the way that you've mentally set up

0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.640
<v Speaker 1>your existence is is by putting your baggage first and

0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.320
<v Speaker 1>realizing and and just saying like you've like kind of

0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.960
<v Speaker 1>mentally decided for yourself that your baggage is a defining

0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.960
<v Speaker 1>element of who you are and so therefore to make

0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:12.480
<v Speaker 1>new connections you have to put it at the at

0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.839
<v Speaker 1>the forefront of who you are. And that won't work.

0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to I wanted, you know, the whole I

0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.160
<v Speaker 1>can't release sit here and uh rant about how you

0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.480
<v Speaker 1>should you know, just let it go, because I really

0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:33.520
<v Speaker 1>know that that's it's not that easy.

0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.559
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's kind of very interesting.

0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a but it's a I just know in my

0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:40.480
<v Speaker 1>even though like, uh, I think I've done it in

0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:45.600
<v Speaker 1>in like my life and I think it's a makes sense,

0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:51.240
<v Speaker 1>but you you just it's a mistake to let it

0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.280
<v Speaker 1>define you and put it at the you know, your

0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:59.440
<v Speaker 1>mental forefront image of who you are. It's a real mistake,

0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and it is it is something that you have control

0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.400
<v Speaker 1>over because you kind of get to define your own

0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:13.040
<v Speaker 1>perspective of who you are. And so you're you're a

0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.040
<v Speaker 1>control of whether or not you want to let yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you got to change the story.

0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Well that's so I am to answer some of the

0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.160
<v Speaker 2>questions in the chat. I do go to the VIA

0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.080
<v Speaker 2>center and see it therapist, a real counselor too.

0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh sorry, do me a favorite? Do me a favorite?

0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Can you not? Can you not look at the chat?

0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, sorry what we're saying.

0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:40.920
<v Speaker 2>So I was just gonna say that changing the story

0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I tell myself. I guess I had seen my baggage

0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of something that I thought I had to sit you know,

0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.400
<v Speaker 2>but you think like could literally just set it down

0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.720
<v Speaker 2>and move forward without it, you know, just like say

0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.600
<v Speaker 2>scrap it the first thirty five and let's just go

0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.880
<v Speaker 2>from here. No, I don't know.

0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if that's what I'm few.

0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's I mean, maybe I'm really no. Uh,

0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm again. I'm not like I'm not advising on anything.

0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of thinking about these things alongside you.

0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I think there's something to be said, there's something to

0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.440
<v Speaker 1>be said about like you don't have to Huh. You

0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.560
<v Speaker 1>thought you had to fix it first before it's an

0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting idea. I have to fix this baggage. I have

0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.120
<v Speaker 1>need to fix these things about myself before I'm able

0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to have connections with people. Yeah, I've been in my

0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.640
<v Speaker 1>personal life and I've really been thinking a lot about Uh,

0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:51.040
<v Speaker 1>this idea that you can kind of accept the I

0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.320
<v Speaker 1>used to be afraid of, like accepting certain things about

0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.600
<v Speaker 1>myself because then it meant I wouldn't work on them, right,

0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the fallacy. It's like, what's like like like

0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.360
<v Speaker 1>like if I accept that I don't like the way

0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.400
<v Speaker 1>if I accept that I don't like the way I

0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.800
<v Speaker 1>live my life, or I accept it for what it is,

0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll stop working on it, and then I'll just continue

0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to sink more in a misery. That's kind of the

0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.880
<v Speaker 1>fallacy I was working off of, and I've kind of

0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.840
<v Speaker 1>begin to understand it more as I get older, which

0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:26.560
<v Speaker 1>is like no acceptance is like I ecept is that

0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you can accept things about yourself that you don't like

0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and still work to fix them. It's just that you

0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to like fucking hate yourself in order

0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to fix yourself. I don't think do you know that

0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:43.960
<v Speaker 1>makes sense?

0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.640
<v Speaker 2>It does make sense, but yeah, I do believe, like

0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought the same thing that like, if I accept

0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:56.560
<v Speaker 2>the shit parts, then I'm not going to fix them

0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.600
<v Speaker 2>or I'm not going to improve on them. Then if

0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I accept them, I'll just let it go, right, So

0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe I think I believe that same thing. But

0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:13.040
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, I guess that is a fallacy.

0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So give it. It's really hard, it is, Yes, it is,

0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's really.

0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've written a few short things about that

0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.560
<v Speaker 2>feeling looking in the mirror.

0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hm hmm, yeah, I don't. Uh, it's a whole

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole thing. I think this is the plot

0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of the movie Surfs Up. Have you ever seen that movie?

0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll have not.

0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I can't say it, but.

0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I think there's some messages in there about hating yourself

0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and trying to overcome that.

0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I have to check it out. I've seen surf Ninjas.

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>What is that? What is that movie?

0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>It's uh shipes movie about these three brothers that it

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.280
<v Speaker 2>turns out they are ninjas.

0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I want you, I just can we?

0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Can we?

0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I just for your own I don't know? Can we?

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to think of something for you to do.

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Is there do you want to do any like? Like

0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you want you You're just looking for meaning like I

0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I think you're like you're due for like a Walter

0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Midty fucking adventure. You're done that that.

0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I I'm not sure who Walter Mitty is, but the

0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.560
<v Speaker 2>idea of an adventure that hits home. I've been looking

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.600
<v Speaker 2>into Ernest Hemingway recently as a right just dove.

0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you have kids?

0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Give well, wife or a girlfriend or anything?

0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:03.320
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.480
<v Speaker 2>My only of real Yeah.

0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Would you have any responsibility?

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.440
<v Speaker 1>You have a cat? You can get a cat? Go

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.359
<v Speaker 1>go go? Did go do? When's the last time you

0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 1>left the country.

0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:16.120
<v Speaker 2>H Iraq?

0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Back when you were eighteen ago?

0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? A long time ago.

0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any savings?

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I have a little bit?

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could you should do something. I know. It's

0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.960
<v Speaker 1>not like, yeah, I gotta solve your problems by traveling,

0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but like if you're if you're looking to like be like, oh,

0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to make something out of my life. I

0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.200
<v Speaker 1>mean you should go do something on a weird adventure,

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>go to is there anywhere that you've ever thought of?

0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.119
<v Speaker 2>So I like the whimsical ideas of doing random things

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that so like. I bought Babbel a year and a

0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 2>half ago because I was like, I'll learn a second language.

0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I tried to learn Spanish because it would be so

0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.320
<v Speaker 2>useful to know Spanish for so many reasons, but it

0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 2>was like eating my vegetables. So I didn't get into it,

0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't do it. Just recently I found out that the

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.560
<v Speaker 2>creator of my favorite show, Pushing Daisies, his favorite movie

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.400
<v Speaker 2>and inspiration was Amaali. It's a French movie from two

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand and one about a gal. It's really great, recommend

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 2>it to anybody. Amazingly shot, very visual. But I was like, hey,

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.359
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be funny to buy it watch it in French

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 2>without subtitles. I don't know French, but I did that

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and it was great. It's awesome. It's cool to watch

0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.720
<v Speaker 2>a movie in a different language without subtitles, because then

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't pay attention to the words and you get

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to see everything else about it. But I was said

0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Ernest Hemingway loved France. Wouldn't it be cool to buy

0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.680
<v Speaker 2>a ticket, fly to France, have dinner, after dinner, get

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:47.680
<v Speaker 2>on the plane, fly back.

0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Why do you hold on? Why would? Why the fuck would?

0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Why the fuck would you do that? Why do you

0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>just go to France? Why do you have to make

0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it a crazy Why don't I just go for a bit,

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just go so for a spend a little bit more

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>than a I'll just go and go on a little adventure.

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Man, Yeah, I could.

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.959
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the whimsical part about it. It's just like,

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.960
<v Speaker 2>how ridiculous would that be to spend all that money

0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 2>to go have dinner and come right back? You know,

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm very I'm very nervous about that being the way

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that your brain works. What's your name? Your tsunam again?

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Man, Dylan?

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Dylan? Why don't you go instead of making it a cartoon,

0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 1>why don't you actually just go to France and do

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>things and try to meet people and like put yourself

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 1>out there a little bit. If you why didn't you

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:38.880
<v Speaker 1>do that?

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's, you know, I think it's fear of

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:50.439
<v Speaker 2>trying to do that and then getting rejected.

0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, here's bejecting, Dylan Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan.

0:20:55.600 --> 0:21:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You want to know something crazy want I'm gonna tell you.

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:02.439
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna tell you something crazy. I believe this

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of. I believe it in the moment that I'm

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>saying it to you because I'm I'm I'm just hyped

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>up talking to you, and I'm getting a hype. I

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>feel hype. I feel hyped up right now. So I

0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>believe this in this very moment that I'm saying it. Okay, Dylan,

0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the second you tried, you were successful if you So

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing is if you if you go to

0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 1>France and you're there and you're look at you're standing

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're eating You're sorry, you're at dinner and you're

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>eating a snail, or like you're walking around town and

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you're looking to people, You're gonna feel so great that

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you tried. Because that's part of the is like if

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you you're you're sitting here and you're going like, Oh,

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get more meaning out of my life.

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to feel like I made something out of myself.

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And when you just sit in your house and you

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:05.639
<v Speaker 1>fester with that, you're failing. Is because you're sitting and

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you're festering. But the fact that you traveled and you

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like you tried, you made some effort against this thing

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're festering with, that's gonna make you feel really good.

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Not whether or not your try was quote unquote successful

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>in whatever you want your crazy definition of success to be,

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>but just the fact that you tried, You put yourself

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>out there, you did something outside of your normal routine.

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 1>You tried to talk to someone maybe you wanted to

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>talk to. You tried to go somewhere maybe you wanted

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to go to. You try. Not so much that any

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of these efforts were successful, but that they were efforts

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>ever at all in the first place.

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that feels really I mean I'm really hyped

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:01.880
<v Speaker 2>dooc and get right now too, but that feels really true. Well,

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 2>it resonates with me what you're saying, like the trying,

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 2>because my fear is the looking back at having not

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 2>tried anything right.

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Right, So that so there, So all you gotta do

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 1>is fucking try something. Man, it might not work. You

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:18.199
<v Speaker 1>might get to you might get to Paris and be

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at the Eiffel Tower and go. You know, it's

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's actually kind of lame, small and life

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>is meaningless. But unless you but at least you you

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>push yourself far enough to figure out that that wasn't

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the answer, you know, that'll feel good you exactly. So,

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I just I can't. I you know, I hope, I hope.

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I hope that this got through to you in some

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>meaningful way. Thanks for sharing all the stuff with me, Dylan.

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 1>I really hope that you find so you find some

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of meaning in your in your life.

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 2>It's really cool. I'll pop in the chat after my

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>trip when I make it happen.

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Dude, please please please do please, dear God, please dear God.

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>If you, if you're if you do do this, which

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope you do, give me some kind of follow up,

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 1>and whether it's in the chat or in one of

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.479
<v Speaker 1>my in one, in an email episode or something like that,

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear that you don't know when. Oh well,

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>let me you h we don't know when? When is there.

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>What are you waiting for?

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess i'd have to just you know, make

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 2>the plan and set it up and do the travel.

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you have to take time off work?

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I take some time off the work, you know.

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>All right? Do you have any oh you run a

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any pt O left this year?

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I do? Yeah?

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 1>All right, fucking do that ship, dude, God damn, do

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it and then let me know how I went.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 2>All Right, I'm going to I'm gonna go to Paris.

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know for how long. A couple of days.

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I won't just have dinner.

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Cool. Yeah, that was terrible.

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I think that it wouldn't be.

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 2>It'd be if I.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Mean, if your goal is, if your goal is for

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it to be funny. Yes, it was funny, but I

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>don't think this is what you want to do. Yeah,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>go and walk around and just look at just go

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and just just go and stand there and see if

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it feels fucking any difference at all.

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I think the idea of telling somebody, oh,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I had dinner in France yesterday and just be like what.

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what?

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what maybe you know what you know what

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what? Maybe that really is all you need.

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you do. Maybe I actually take back everything. I

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>actually take everything I said about your going there to

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>eat lunch and coming and METI to the back idea.

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I take it back. I actually don't think it's a

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>stupid idea. I actually think if you did that it

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>would accomplish the same as if you went for four days.

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just again, it's just comes back to the fact

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that you took some form of action to try and

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>deal with this. So maybe maybe you do do that.

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I I take back what I said. Well,

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>whatever you do, let me let me send therapy Gecko

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>mail at gmail dot com. Send me an email. Uh

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>if you if you have an update on this, I'm

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>very curious about it. Uh, Dylan, is there anything else

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>before we go?

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Not at all. Just keep trying and and you know,

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>tell yourself a better story in your head.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like that. I like I'm gonna

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>try to I'm gonna try to take some of the

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>fucking advice that I talk about on this plane. This

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>is why I I'm sorry to end this on the rap.

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>But I tell everything I say to callers on this

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>podcast is just me trying to convince myself of things.

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 1>So you know that thanks for that man, you have

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a going Dylan.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 2>You two get thank you.

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>It is funny the idea of him going, and I

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>had to look back. I had to be like, well,

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>why do I think that's a stupid idea? I still do.

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I still kind of do think it's a stupid idea.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>But again, the core is that he tried, he went

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and did something maybe that could make him Just the

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>core I think the idea behind obviously you know, we

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>all know that, like and I've had this same conversation

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>with people on this podcast with obviously, like a travel

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and going to new places isn't in and of itself,

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>is not going to like change make you happy, Like

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I well, okay, in this case scenario, it's

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just like if he hadn't done it forever and he

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>tried something he was uncomfortable with in an effort to

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>find more meaning to his life. I think this was

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>actually something to that that could be kind of powerful

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>about that, And you could achieve that by literally going

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>to France for dinner and then coming right home. But

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it is a waste of money. Why would you do that? Hello?

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 4>Can you hear me?

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hi? What's your name?

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 4>Mercy?

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Marcie? What's up? Marci?

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 4>How?

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.719
<v Speaker 1>What? What brings you to want to talk on the

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Therapy iCal podcast today?

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've actually wanted to talk to you for a

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 4>long time. Cool, a little nervous, but otherwise I'm good. Sorry,

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 4>I was just feeding my cat's got a little out

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 4>of breath because I'm fair.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no worries, no worries.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 4>I actually wanted to talk a little bit about, uh,

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 4>like something positive that's going on in my tumultuous world.

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Cool. Yeah, let me hear it.

0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So, going through a few, you know, pretty big

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 4>hardships between my husband and I, but he and I

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>are like stronger than we've ever been. Ohay, yeah, and

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 4>it feels really great. It was one of those like

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm high in the shower thoughts that kind of piqued

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 4>my interest yesterday because we were just we've just been

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 4>going through it and with our families and just catastrophes

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, here and there, and we live in Florida,

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 4>so we also deal with you know, so.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you guys get hit Did you guys get

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>hit by by Hurricane big Boy?

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 4>No, thankfully, we've actually made it been really really lucky

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 4>the last couple of years. Our area is kind of

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 4>isolated and off to the side, like we live. I

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 4>don't want to say exactly where, but we live very

0:29:54.480 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 4>close to Jacksonville, and we just somehow have totally been

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 4>missed by at least two of the hurricanes. And then

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 4>we got like you know, extreme outer bands and a

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of like flooding and stuff where we live. But

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 4>other than that, we got really really lucky. It was

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 4>all of them this year.

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>How long have you and your husband been together.

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>We just celebrated our fifth anniversary in September five.

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Five.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's cool. That's cool. And so you said, you

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>said you have been through it tumultuous times, but you're

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>stronger than ever.

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Stronger than ever. Like even even when we fight, which

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 4>is very rare, we always come out like learning something

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 4>new about one another, as if we Sometimes I feel

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 4>like we're just meeting each other for the first time

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 4>over and over and over again, and it feels really

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 4>cool because you know, he and I were a pretty homebody.

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, we don't do a whole lot, We don't

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 4>have a whole lot of friends outside of our jobs

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 4>because we were kind of we work a lot, and

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 4>we're kind of isolated. We live away from his family,

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 4>which sucks. So on on all sides, we're just going

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 4>through it. But like everything else between him and I

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 4>is just like we just feel like we can take

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 4>on the whole world together and fuck everybody else.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh that's that's uh, that's so beautiful. That's that is

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like an incredibly uh valuable one could say rare

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>one could say a rare valuable thing to have in

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>your life. Uh.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, particularly how you know, before we met, in like

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 4>our past relationships, they were pretty bad. And you know,

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 4>when you're we're kind of both kind of empathed, so

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 4>we end up taking a lot on from other people.

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 4>And so in those relationships, we had a lot of

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 4>people that were like taking from us and never giving

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 4>in return. But we're just those type of people who

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.239
<v Speaker 4>are just like, Okay, well if we keep giving, you know,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 4>maybe the person will give back.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Can you ask, can how old you guys are? I'm

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>just curious where you're at in your life journey?

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 4>So I am thirty three cool and he is thirty

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 4>seven cool.

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>That's cool. I'm I'm about to turn twenty seven, and

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I keep I don't know why, I'm always thinking. I'm

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>always thinking about what my life is going to be

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like in like ten years, and I'm kind of obsessed

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with I'm kind of obsessed with the idea that, like

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I could my life could be like really awesome when

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like thirty seven, like very different, weird. It's cool

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to just imagine like different. They can think about how

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>radically different your life was ten years ago and you're like,

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, my lift you radically different ten years from now.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I think about it. What is you said you wanted

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to specifically talk about something positive? What was the specific

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>positive thing you wanted to you wanted to share?

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess that really was the positive thing. It's

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 4>just because we have so many negative things going on,

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 4>it just feels like at least my at least my

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 4>relationship is you know, on a forward path and feels

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 4>like it's it feels like it's genuine, you know, I never,

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 4>I very rarely feel unseen by him and being that

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to go with this A tiny tangent.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 4>He and I both have late diagnosed ADHD, like pretty

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 4>pretty severe for him, and I have like a my

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 4>attention desk that is definitely.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Like the issue for me.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.720
<v Speaker 4>But we're both really strong speakers, like him especially he's

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 4>very articulate and he's also bilingual. He's from d R

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 4>and so he's very intelligent person and he's gotten himself

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 4>into conversations with people and made it so that he

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>could like enlighten someone. He's very spiritual in that way.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 2>We're both Buddhists.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, so.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>It's uh, where'd you had you guys be.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 4>Tender?

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually that's cool.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's cool. I like that. I would have thought

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>there's because there's like, what's the Christian mingle of Buddhism.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking maybe it could be something like that,

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's tender? Do you guys? I have I have a

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>few questions. I have a few questions for you, just

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>because I'm curious, because you sound like you've found a

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that's very special and good. So I have questions

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>about it. Where did you do you? Guys? Feel like

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of your because you from the way you

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about him, it sounds like you're both very like

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>spiritually aligned and like worldview. It sounds like you have

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like aligned values, is yes, And so

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious when you two first met, do you feel

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like you came into the relationship both independently possessing those

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>values on which you're aligned, or do you feel like

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the the alignment developed over the course of of the relationship.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 4>So both yes and yes. So the way we met

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 4>regardless of Tender. So we started on the app. Of course,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, talked on the app for a few days

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 4>and it was just, you know, just surface level shit

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 4>like I like Star Wars, you like Star Wars, blah

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 4>blah blah, that kind of bullshit. And then by the

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 4>towards the end of the week, he asked if he

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 4>could call me. And if you know anything about tender,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty rare that anyone actually wants to call you.

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a it's a good idea because it's

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you can really get gauged so much more about a

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>person by talking to them on the phone than you

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.240
<v Speaker 1>can't over the right.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Next accurate number one number one, making sure they're a

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 4>real person, right and then and then hopefully end up

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 4>not being a serial killer or whatever. But so I

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 4>was like, sure, you know, I get off at five,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 4>call me at five thirty.

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I should be.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Getting home around then, and I have twenty nine twenty

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 4>or nine fifty nine whatever on the dot. He was

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 4>calling me, and I was just like trying to get

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 4>into my uh, into my room with all my ship

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 4>in my hands. So I was like, oh, prompt, boy,

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 4>and then we proceeded to have a conversation for seven

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 4>and a half hours. Yeah, we just talked the whole

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 4>time and talked about our lives, talked about our you know,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 4>things that we liked and things that they disliked. At

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 4>the time, I was very involved with politics. I was

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 4>a sitting chair for the Libertarian Party of Semuel County

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 4>and I was very involved with stuff like that. And

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 4>I was working for real estate company and basically running

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 4>the office on my own and he, unfortunately at the time,

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 4>was in between in between jobs. But but he was

0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 4>like on the way to getting a job and we

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 4>just clicked like overnight, and I felt like I knew

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 4>him better than I knew like the last boyfriend I

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:12.919
<v Speaker 4>had before and.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Within so I'm really, really, really really uh, that's a

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>fascinating fascinating story. I'm really curious about your take on something.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>This is something I really think about a lot in

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, my personal life. You know, when I've been

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like dating, and I was actually talking a lot about

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 1>my friends a lot about this with my friend last night.

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, do you do you think two people?

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>In my head, there's and it doesn't actually one or

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the other, but there's kind of like two schools of

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>thought you could say, with relationships, where it's like you

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>either kind of pick some one, you catch a wave

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>of some kind like your two people meet, they decide

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to make it work, and then kind of gradually over

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>time they develop their relationship with each other and they

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>their love for each other kind of becomes deeper, versus

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of the other school of thought, which is like

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you get lucky or you search really really really hard

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and really really really intentionally until you find that person

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>with whom you just kind of immediately feel like you

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>click and like you, as you just said, know them

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>almost pretty soon, pretty immediately, you feel like you know

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>them almost as well as you know somebody that you

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>did the whole other dance with for many years, you know,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think it seems like it's kind of on

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the The answer lies somewhere between those two schools of thought.

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious about your perspective because the way that

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like things worked out for you and this

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>guy is that you felt it so immediately that you

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>had this this seven hour connection with each other.

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wish I knew the actual answer, but I

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 4>definitely think it does. It's somewhere in between. You know,

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 4>it's luck definitely, because I mean, like I said, I

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 4>met him on Tinder, so I'm basically just you know,

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 4>rolling the dice there totally. But you know, I also

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 4>believe that, you know, I'm not like totally four soulmates,

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 4>but I also kind of am and and he is

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 4>just one of those people that I feel like, you know,

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 4>if I hadn't.

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Passed life, he was there.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, I felt like he was in my life,

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 4>my whole life. Like we were just kind of talking

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 4>about that last night, where we both kind of feel like,

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, if we had met a long time ago,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 4>like in our you know, high school years, that we

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 4>would have been like obsessed with one another back then.

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, probably wouldn't have been fun for

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 4>our friends because we would have never had friends.

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting. Well, so that's so interesting too because you

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>say that you two would have been obsessed with each

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 1>other in high school? Do you think that? I mean,

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're both in your thirties and there's a lot

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of change that happens between eighteen to thirty. And because

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>there's another like kind of also like in when I'm

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>like thinking about the schools of thought of how two

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>people come to form a strong relationship, is like, do

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you ever feel like two people? Maybe if two people,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you kind of have to become not a different person,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but maybe like like a better version of yourself in

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>order to truly be there and the way that you

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 1>need to be there for the person that you're with.

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And it takes a long time to kind of to

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess become that version of yourself.

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I think it's important that those two people

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 4>have you know, like common interests for sure, common values.

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean the biggest one for us is,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, we we grew up you know, metal heads.

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, I grew up in Las Vegas and he

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 4>grew up in d r and then in Orlando when

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 4>he came to the States, and we both were like

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 4>goths and you know, stupid, but also we had fun.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 4>But you know, we've gone to metal shows together, We've

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 4>gone to electronics shows together.

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>We really love music.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 4>We both play music. I sing, I love dancing. Like

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 4>we were really into music in general, and that for

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 4>me is huge. That's been a that's been a key

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 4>factor in most of my relationships in general. Like if

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 4>we don't have music at common, then I can't hang

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 4>out with you.

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 3>That much.

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So what's, uh, what's what's next for your guys's uh lives?

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna you think getting married? Do you think

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>it about going to moving to Portugal? What's uh? What's happening?

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 4>No, So we're we've been trying to have a baby

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 4>for a couple of years. We've unfortunately had a couple

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 4>of failures, but in one kind of recent which is

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 4>one of the tumultuous things that has been going on.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 4>But that but we are that's okay, We're getting through it,

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 4>and that's that's the next step. We're actually getting ready

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 4>to move in with my family because we're you know,

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to combine bills and we've got older. My

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 4>my grandmother's getting older, and my mom's getting older and

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 4>everybody just kind of needs to be together. So that's

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>also a very is going to happen this month.

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, are both of are both of you very

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 1>like family oriented, like you're like his his family is

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 1>your family, your family. His family kind of vibes absolutely.

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 4>I love his family, he loves my family. We all

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 4>get along great and and his family so much so

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 4>different from mine, but also not because they're we're all

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 4>just very loving families, which is it's a blessing.

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And how do you feel as though you got you guys?

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Your families are different?

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, his his are all Dominican and uh and mine

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 4>are I only live know my like white side of

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 4>my family, my my Irish side, but I'm half Mexican

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 4>as well. But and I grew up in Las Vegas,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 4>so you know, I grew up with Mexican origin around

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 4>me all the time. But I grew up with my

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Irish family and uh, so it's definitely different dynamic, Like

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, when we go to holidays and stuff like that,

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Like his family they do uh karaoke and they dance

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 4>and they make big meals and there's everybody shouting and

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 4>having a wonderful time and.

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Then at my my house, it's a little.

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 4>More calm, you know, it's a little more uh reserved,

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 4>I guess, but it's still loving and like kids are

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 4>running around and you know, we're kind of a white

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 4>trash family too, so it's it all kind of is

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 4>the same for us. It's just love everywhere.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>That's uh, that's really that's nice. I'm very I'm uh,

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm touched by you, guys, I really am. This is uh,

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. I think I do think that a good

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>life probably has a lot of other people in it.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well.

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 1>This is all good.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 4>We've been talking for a long time.

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>They're all good things. I'm trying to think if if

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I have any of the question, is there anything else

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to to talk about?

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 4>No, I think we probably should give someone else.

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:13.479
<v Speaker 3>A chance to talk.

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your name is, Mercy?

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Mercy Mercy.

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I'm very happy for you, uh, Mercy, I'm glad

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that you It's kind of cool. Well, because a lot

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of people, I'm sure. First of all, this is this

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>is all this whole phone call has been sponsored by Tinder.

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>They paid this caller to call in and talk about

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>her experience. No, that's not true at all, but it does.

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>This is a good This is an advert to because

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are getting fed up with uh

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>dating apps. But it's like sometimes sometimes sometimes if you're

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.280
<v Speaker 1>patient enough, I feel like you just you get lucky.

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's definitely not what it used

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 4>to be. And and I was. It was my last

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 4>ditch effort at the time. So what can you do?

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 3>It worked out?

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh, Mercy is or anything else you want to say before.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 4>We go, Nope, thank you for your time and I

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 4>really appreciated your conversation.

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:26.919
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling Mercy. I have a good rest

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of the night.

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 2>You too.

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Bye bye.

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Well that was that was nice. See see you guys.

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Well you gotta do. You just gotta keep trying. Maybe hopefully,

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:47.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe you'll get lucky and you'll meet you'll meet somebody

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>who you have a you call them and you guys

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>have a seven hour conversation. That's cool. There's hope. I

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>feel there's hope out there that fall in love and

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>not and to look at stuff and eat food, and

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.399
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, this is hope. This is hope. But I think,

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>oh god, I feel I'm trying to like if I've

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>been speaking, I've said this a bunch of times already.

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>But if I've been speaking too sincerely for too long,

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll really want to think of something stupid to say.

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.240
<v Speaker 1>But I couldn't think of anything that was remotely funny.

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So I just had to put a period at the

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>end of my sincerity, which is which is fine, which

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is fine.

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello, how are you doing well?

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Hello? How are you doing sir? What's your name?

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 3>My name is Griffin?

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Griffin? What can I what can I do you for

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>this evening? What's going on?

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:48:55.280 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I I was curious if if you were or anyone,

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe it has had any sort of like

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>uh weird, I guess uncommon uh like health issues.

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>That like that that aren't common. I myself have had

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 3>scarlet fever.

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's like from the eighteen hundreds, right, I didn't

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>know that was still a thing.

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, until the doctor told me that's what I had.

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I have the other the other day, my asshole was bleeding,

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>which to me feels like a very twenty twenty four illness.

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's actually uh yeah, they didn't start doing that

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 3>until I think this year.

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very gen z thing to have a

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to have a bleed, asshole? How did you get scarlet fever?

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean this is years and years ago, but

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I like through middle and high school. I'm thirty one now,

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 3>but I got strapped throughout like I countless times, like

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.720
<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again. Apparently I was really

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 3>prone to getting it, and I guess one of the

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 3>times it ended up going dormant. So I felt fine

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 3>and I wasn't showing any symptoms of anything, and then

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I started getting like rash all over my body and

0:50:53.520 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 3>just like feeling miserable and had no idea what it

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 3>was from. Yeah, apparently the whatever the like virus of

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 3>that causes strep throat, I guess had gone dormant and

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 3>turned itself into scarlet fever. Uh. The funny, the funniest

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 3>part is that you brought up assholes. Actually, uh because

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 3>they they they swabbed my throat like they do for

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 3>strep throat, and it came up negative and I was like, well,

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 3>like one of like one of the main places that

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I have this rash, it is like it is on

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 3>my ass, and so they swabbed that and then that's

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 3>when it came up positive.

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.839
<v Speaker 1>So how many you when's the last time somebody had

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>scarlet fever in America. Are you like the only guy

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>who has it now? Or like, what's the deal with this?

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I have absolutely no idea. I mean I've never even

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 3>looked it up. That's why I was like curious, like,

0:51:55.440 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, I could I I have no idea.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought like, wait, wait, wait, wait you haven't you

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>haven't looked it up?

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 3>How many people have had it?

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Or like, have you like looked into it?

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well I had it years ago. I mean

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I looked into it after that, but it's.

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Been a while. Scarlet fever, Okay, there are a few there.

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Scarlet fever is very Scarlet fever says, according to Google,

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is very rare. There are fewer than twenty thousand US

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>cases per year. But it does say that it resolves

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 1>within days two weeks.

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean it wasn't. Uh yeah, once they

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 3>gave once they realized I had it, I mean I was.

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I was good after that.

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to look it up on Wikipedia see

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>scarlet fever Wikipedia. When did it start? Who invented it?

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:54.800
<v Speaker 1>When did it start?

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Is this a lady with a weird tone? Oh? This

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>is I'm never you know what? Never look up disease

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>on Wikipedia. You won't like what you Oh wait, okay,

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hold on, I'm on the Wikipedia page for scarlet fever.

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>On history. Under history it says the dick test. Did

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you know there's a dick? This is real. If you

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>go to the scarlet fever Wikipedia page and go to history,

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it's there's a there's a it says the dick test. Okay.

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>The dick test, developed in nineteen twenty four by George

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and Gladdie's Dick, was used to identify those susceptible to

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>scarlet fever. The dick test involved injecting a diluted strain

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of the streptinoch known to cause scarlet fever, and if

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>no reaction was seen in the skin. Have you have

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you tried in injecting yourself with a diluted strain of streptinok.

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh No, I can't say that I have. I have

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 3>not tried that.

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, well, you should try the dick test, dude, I

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's what you're doctor did on Yeah.

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, they brought a bunch of Griffin.

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Griffin finished. I wanted to finish what you're

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna say.

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 3>They brought a bunch of like nurses and doctors uh

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 3>in uh because none of them had ever seen it.

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 3>And I remember the doctor was like, you might not

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 3>ever be someone that had this again. And they were

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 3>all like examining my body. It was a very weird experience.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, the good news about having an old disease is

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:32.919
<v Speaker 1>that they figured out how to cure it by now,

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and you and you and you were able to get

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>through it all without having to take the Dick test.

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Correct. I might be sterile because of it, though, That's

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 3>what they told me.

0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh, go to your doctors, get things checked out if

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 3>you're if you have symptoms of anything. I guess I

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:55.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>See you later, Griffin have on? Did you say his

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>name was Griffin or Griffith? Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>That's the end of this episode. But get this, I'm

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>releasing a bonus episode this week. That's right, an entire

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 1>extra hour of the podcast that you can listen to

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:22.919
<v Speaker 1>by becoming a premium member of Therapy Gecko over at

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. Supercast subscribers get access

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 1>to bonus episodes, they get a completely ad free podcast

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>feed of the regular show, they get recordings from my

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>live shows members only streams, and they help support my

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>ability to continue doing this podcast. So here's a clip

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>from this week's members only bonus episode.

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 3>My ex hy to me that his mom was dead.

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh jesus, how long ago is this?

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm like dating this dude for like two years?

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I plan a trip to Jersey to.

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Go back home with him to meet his family, And

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 4>he like.

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Planned this trip out with me and didn't waited until

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 3>the very last fucking second to tell me that it

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:12.879
<v Speaker 3>was all a lie.

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.319
<v Speaker 2>We would you do?

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Whatuld you do when you found out that it was

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:17.479
<v Speaker 1>a lie?

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 4>I shut the fuck down.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.280
<v Speaker 1>He gave me a fucking fifteen minute Uber ride.

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 3>To process that.

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 2>The first person I was going.

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 3>To meet with his mom who's actually alive.

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>That's really crazy, that's wild. Goddamn, what'd you What was

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it like meeting was his mom nice? What was it

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>like meeting his mom? If you want to hear this

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>full conversation, you can sign up to become a premium

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>member at therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com, or find

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the link in the episode description that's therapy Gecko dot

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:55.879
<v Speaker 1>supercast dot com. All right, I have nothing else to say.

0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 3>The line take every night, never bed get gostin his

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 3>eyes is teaching you to how to your life

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>But he's not really an expert.