Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear you.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. What's your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Dylan Dylan.
Speaker 1: Have we ever talked before? Dylan?
Speaker 2: No, we haven't, not at all.
Speaker 1: What's up, man?
Speaker 2: How you doing A few times? Well?
Speaker 1: You doing?
Speaker 2: Yeh? I'm looking for meaning, looking for meaning in life.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to not find myself waking up
Speaker 2: at the end of my life and looking back and
Speaker 2: realizing that I didn't live it along the way.
Speaker 1: I just kind of waited, Yeah, yeah, I would be
Speaker 1: happy to talk about that. How old are you?
Speaker 2: Thirty five?
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you do? You do you think you've
Speaker 1: been well? I guess that would start with, like, as,
Speaker 1: what in the first thirty five years of your life
Speaker 1: have you been doing or or valuing?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, well flash summary of thirty five years deck.
Speaker 2: I was raised hyper religious and a pseudo kind of
Speaker 2: cult like branch of Christianity. I came to like the
Speaker 2: Westboro Baptistricts. Got out of that. Whoa, yeah, you can.
Speaker 1: Keep keep keep keep going. No no, no, top, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit back and shut up keep going.
Speaker 2: So eighteen ran Off joined the army, went to Iraq,
Speaker 2: fell in love with dow in my unit. We were
Speaker 2: together during our deployment, talked under the stars in the
Speaker 2: desert and thought that it was going to be forever
Speaker 2: and if we could get through war, then we could
Speaker 2: the rest. And didn't it turn out to be what
Speaker 2: I thought. We were just young, and you know, she
Speaker 2: wanted to go in and see what other options life has.
Speaker 2: And I don't blame her for that, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I said, we were both kids, but I took it
Speaker 2: hard for the first fifteen years after that, and I
Speaker 2: haven't had a relationship since working Can I can?
Speaker 1: I can?
Speaker 2: I can?
Speaker 1: I stop you for I want to hear the rest
Speaker 1: of your life story, but you say okay. To sum
Speaker 1: it up, Yeah, you met this lady in your unit,
Speaker 1: and you guys really fell in love with each other
Speaker 1: and things didn't work out. She tried to pursue other options,
Speaker 1: which I and you guys met when you were eighteen, Right,
Speaker 1: that's what you say? Uh? You kind of alluded to
Speaker 1: saying that it hit you pretty hard for the for
Speaker 1: fifteen years after that. Tell me more about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, but basically my entire twenties in the
Speaker 2: last I guess, like nineteen in the twenty and in
Speaker 2: my entire twenties. I just was in a deep depression,
Speaker 2: you know, working dead end jobs, and I ended up
Speaker 2: in factory in the back room for six years, just
Speaker 2: kind of going through the motions of getting money to
Speaker 2: pay the bills and then going home and watching YouTube.
Speaker 2: And I finally woke up when I had a very
Speaker 2: close friend to past and I kind of got faced
Speaker 2: with a decision where I was like, well, I could
Speaker 2: either kind of give up or I could try, and
Speaker 2: so I chose to try. But now I'm there. Now
Speaker 2: that's where I'm at. I met this place where I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm paralyzed, existential paralyzed, pterialism.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm not trying, why I'm not
Speaker 2: doing this thing.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me ask you to clarify
Speaker 1: something you said. You woke up one day and then
Speaker 1: decided you wanted to You said you had a friend
Speaker 1: pass away and that was kind of like catalyst for you,
Speaker 1: as you say, trying. How long ago was this.
Speaker 2: In July twenty one? Yeah, Well, the only real friends
Speaker 2: person I talked to about everything. We're just friends friends, friends, yeah,
Speaker 2: not romantic. Yeah, but it was the surprise that happened fast.
Speaker 1: When you said you were just working back a little bit,
Speaker 1: you said that there's this thing with this girl hit
Speaker 1: you hard for fifteen years. When you say you were
Speaker 1: in a depression, are you not saying you were in
Speaker 1: a depression? I was thinking about that relationship for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Would you were you?
Speaker 2: I think it was it was a mix of things.
Speaker 2: I ended up losing my state that I had in
Speaker 2: my childhood around that time, and just like I just
Speaker 2: fell into a deep stage depression.
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 2: Caused by a lot of different things, but one big
Speaker 2: thing was definitely Yeah, I felt pretty worthless and not
Speaker 2: worthy of people's time. I guess after that relationship so apart,
Speaker 2: I didn't deal with it very healthily for those for
Speaker 2: that period of time.
Speaker 1: And you say you lost, you say you lost your faith,
Speaker 1: like religious faith.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. I got exposed to more things in the world,
Speaker 2: you know, when I went overseas and I was in
Speaker 2: a part of the downtown bank Dad and we were
Speaker 2: rolling through and I saw people shopping and people eating,
Speaker 2: kids playing with a soccer ball in particular, and just
Speaker 2: kind of hit me that for the most part, they
Speaker 2: were just people there, they weren't the evil Islamic other
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I don't know, it's well, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, you said, you said you grew up in
Speaker 1: the Westboro Baptist Church, right.
Speaker 2: You know, kind of a branch of uh what'd call
Speaker 2: the first Baptist Northern Baptist Church that idolized the west
Speaker 2: Bureo Baptistrict's not actually part of the west Boro baptistricts.
Speaker 2: But we looked at them guys as like heroes on
Speaker 2: the front line.
Speaker 1: But but you you know, yeah, you're going up in
Speaker 1: a church that's basically like telling you, like those guys
Speaker 1: over there, you know, are are are? You know that
Speaker 1: you're they're fucked up.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, that they're evil in some way. And then
Speaker 2: they were just people when I.
Speaker 1: Got right right.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yea, you you said in twenty twenty one, you woke
Speaker 1: up and you were like, I'm gonna start trying. What
Speaker 1: does that mean?
Speaker 2: I guess it. It meant like, I looks for a
Speaker 2: better job. I got in at the male clinic insecurity,
Speaker 2: and you know, it paid better and had more opportunities
Speaker 2: as a career path. I thought that that was trying more.
Speaker 2: I was hoping to maybe try writing. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I guess I guess I felt like I put my
Speaker 2: life on pause during the depression and didn't really try
Speaker 2: much of anything beyond just going through a dead end job,
Speaker 2: getting enough to pay for necessities in my rent and
Speaker 2: then that was it, you know, not a lot of
Speaker 2: social activity and not a lot of anything other than consuming
Speaker 2: YouTube content that are going on Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: So when you said, when you say that you're you're
Speaker 1: like looking for meaning and you don't want to wake
Speaker 1: up at the end of your life and feel like
Speaker 1: it was unlived. There's a power, there's a powerful uh
Speaker 1: desires what But so you cut like to audit yourself
Speaker 1: and audit your brain? I mean what, like what do
Speaker 1: you value? I mean that's the thing, is like you
Speaker 1: can't really search for meeting you like kind of create
Speaker 1: it from within and decided, uh, you know, for yourself.
Speaker 1: So what what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: When you are thinking about these things, have you like
Speaker 1: decided for yourself is meaningful?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess that's yeah, I mean, I've I mean
Speaker 2: that's literally I guess. The question the existential crisis part
Speaker 2: of it is just like how do you create meaning?
Speaker 2: How do I create self? Value or work, you know,
Speaker 2: without like trying to find validation from other people, because
Speaker 2: that's been like my stumbling block because I do die
Speaker 2: your validation from other people that I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no no at a certain point, God,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to like fucking mentally get there. But
Speaker 1: I'm also having the some epiphanies of like, you truly
Speaker 1: have to build you if you if you if your
Speaker 1: car runs on the engine of other people's validation, you you, uh,
Speaker 1: you're just fucked.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You have to kind of build, you have to really
Speaker 1: build like a solid foundation of like deciding that your
Speaker 1: fucking life matters and that do your you care about
Speaker 1: your having a good life? Uh? But again like I, uh, well,
Speaker 1: what makes what would make you have a good life?
Speaker 1: Like what do you what do you want? My dog?
Speaker 2: I think connection with some people would be good, But
Speaker 2: it feels like this herculean task, you know, because now
Speaker 2: I'm got so much life baggage, you know, how do
Speaker 2: I just show up and dump that on somebody's laugh
Speaker 2: you know, or expect as an adult? You know, it's
Speaker 2: just like you just bring so much more to it.
Speaker 2: When we were on the playground as kid, you had nothing.
Speaker 2: He just walked up and said, I want to be friends. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and now we're friend cool.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh man, you know, I totally feel where
Speaker 1: you're coming from. Dude, I really do, I really feel
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. And uh, I'm I can off.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna off for a thought to you, Why
Speaker 1: do you do you feel like it is so necessary
Speaker 1: to let that baggage, uh define you?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Like? Why? Like why are you holding onto it? Why?
Speaker 1: Like in your brain you're talking about like I I
Speaker 1: like even just the way that you've mentally set up
Speaker 1: your existence is is by putting your baggage first and
Speaker 1: realizing and and just saying like you've like kind of
Speaker 1: mentally decided for yourself that your baggage is a defining
Speaker 1: element of who you are and so therefore to make
Speaker 1: new connections you have to put it at the at
Speaker 1: the forefront of who you are. And that won't work.
Speaker 1: It's hard to I wanted, you know, the whole I
Speaker 1: can't release sit here and uh rant about how you
Speaker 1: should you know, just let it go, because I really
Speaker 1: know that that's it's not that easy.
Speaker 2: But I think it's kind of very interesting.
Speaker 1: It's a but it's a I just know in my
Speaker 1: even though like, uh, I think I've done it in
Speaker 1: in like my life and I think it's a makes sense,
Speaker 1: but you you just it's a mistake to let it
Speaker 1: define you and put it at the you know, your
Speaker 1: mental forefront image of who you are. It's a real mistake,
Speaker 1: and it is it is something that you have control
Speaker 1: over because you kind of get to define your own
Speaker 1: perspective of who you are. And so you're you're a
Speaker 1: control of whether or not you want to let yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to change the story.
Speaker 2: Well that's so I am to answer some of the
Speaker 2: questions in the chat. I do go to the VIA
Speaker 2: center and see it therapist, a real counselor too.
Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, do me a favorite? Do me a favorite?
Speaker 1: Can you not? Can you not look at the chat?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sorry what we're saying.
Speaker 2: So I was just gonna say that changing the story
Speaker 2: I tell myself. I guess I had seen my baggage
Speaker 2: of something that I thought I had to sit you know,
Speaker 2: but you think like could literally just set it down
Speaker 2: and move forward without it, you know, just like say
Speaker 2: scrap it the first thirty five and let's just go
Speaker 2: from here. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if that's what I'm few.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I mean, maybe I'm really no. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm again. I'm not like I'm not advising on anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of thinking about these things alongside you.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said, there's something to
Speaker 1: be said about like you don't have to Huh. You
Speaker 1: thought you had to fix it first before it's an
Speaker 1: interesting idea. I have to fix this baggage. I have
Speaker 1: need to fix these things about myself before I'm able
Speaker 1: to have connections with people. Yeah, I've been in my
Speaker 1: personal life and I've really been thinking a lot about Uh,
Speaker 1: this idea that you can kind of accept the I
Speaker 1: used to be afraid of, like accepting certain things about
Speaker 1: myself because then it meant I wouldn't work on them, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's the fallacy. It's like, what's like like like
Speaker 1: like if I accept that I don't like the way
Speaker 1: if I accept that I don't like the way I
Speaker 1: live my life, or I accept it for what it is,
Speaker 1: I'll stop working on it, and then I'll just continue
Speaker 1: to sink more in a misery. That's kind of the
Speaker 1: fallacy I was working off of, and I've kind of
Speaker 1: begin to understand it more as I get older, which
Speaker 1: is like no acceptance is like I ecept is that
Speaker 1: you can accept things about yourself that you don't like
Speaker 1: and still work to fix them. It's just that you
Speaker 1: you don't have to like fucking hate yourself in order
Speaker 1: to fix yourself. I don't think do you know that
Speaker 1: makes sense?
Speaker 2: It does make sense, but yeah, I do believe, like
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing that like, if I accept
Speaker 2: the shit parts, then I'm not going to fix them
Speaker 2: or I'm not going to improve on them. Then if
Speaker 2: I accept them, I'll just let it go, right, So
Speaker 2: I believe I think I believe that same thing. But
Speaker 2: that's yeah, I guess that is a fallacy.
Speaker 1: So give it. It's really hard, it is, Yes, it is,
Speaker 1: it is. It's really.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've written a few short things about that
Speaker 2: feeling looking in the mirror.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hm hmm, yeah, I don't. Uh, it's a whole
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. I think this is the plot
Speaker 1: of the movie Surfs Up. Have you ever seen that movie?
Speaker 1: I'll have not.
Speaker 2: Now I can't say it, but.
Speaker 1: I think there's some messages in there about hating yourself
Speaker 1: and trying to overcome that.
Speaker 2: I have to check it out. I've seen surf Ninjas.
Speaker 1: What is that? What is that movie?
Speaker 2: It's uh shipes movie about these three brothers that it
Speaker 2: turns out they are ninjas.
Speaker 1: I want you, I just can we?
Speaker 2: Can we?
Speaker 1: I just for your own I don't know? Can we?
Speaker 1: I want to think of something for you to do.
Speaker 1: Is there do you want to do any like? Like
Speaker 1: you want you You're just looking for meaning like I
Speaker 1: I think you're like you're due for like a Walter
Speaker 1: Midty fucking adventure. You're done that that.
Speaker 2: I I'm not sure who Walter Mitty is, but the
Speaker 2: idea of an adventure that hits home. I've been looking
Speaker 2: into Ernest Hemingway recently as a right just dove.
Speaker 1: Do you do you have kids?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Give well, wife or a girlfriend or anything?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: My only of real Yeah.
Speaker 1: Would you have any responsibility?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: You have a cat? You can get a cat? Go
Speaker 1: go go? Did go do? When's the last time you
Speaker 1: left the country.
Speaker 2: H Iraq?
Speaker 1: Back when you were eighteen ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A long time ago.
Speaker 1: Do you have any savings?
Speaker 2: I have a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could you should do something. I know. It's
Speaker 1: not like, yeah, I gotta solve your problems by traveling,
Speaker 1: but like if you're if you're looking to like be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to make something out of my life. I
Speaker 1: mean you should go do something on a weird adventure,
Speaker 1: go to is there anywhere that you've ever thought of?
Speaker 2: So I like the whimsical ideas of doing random things
Speaker 2: that so like. I bought Babbel a year and a
Speaker 2: half ago because I was like, I'll learn a second language.
Speaker 2: I tried to learn Spanish because it would be so
Speaker 2: useful to know Spanish for so many reasons, but it
Speaker 2: was like eating my vegetables. So I didn't get into it,
Speaker 2: didn't do it. Just recently I found out that the
Speaker 2: creator of my favorite show, Pushing Daisies, his favorite movie
Speaker 2: and inspiration was Amaali. It's a French movie from two
Speaker 2: thousand and one about a gal. It's really great, recommend
Speaker 2: it to anybody. Amazingly shot, very visual. But I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: wouldn't be funny to buy it watch it in French
Speaker 2: without subtitles. I don't know French, but I did that
Speaker 2: and it was great. It's awesome. It's cool to watch
Speaker 2: a movie in a different language without subtitles, because then
Speaker 2: you don't pay attention to the words and you get
Speaker 2: to see everything else about it. But I was said
Speaker 2: Ernest Hemingway loved France. Wouldn't it be cool to buy
Speaker 2: a ticket, fly to France, have dinner, after dinner, get
Speaker 2: on the plane, fly back.
Speaker 1: Why do you hold on? Why would? Why the fuck would?
Speaker 1: Why the fuck would you do that? Why do you
Speaker 1: just go to France? Why do you have to make
Speaker 1: it a crazy Why don't I just go for a bit,
Speaker 1: just go so for a spend a little bit more
Speaker 1: than a I'll just go and go on a little adventure.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I could.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess that's the whimsical part about it. It's just like,
Speaker 2: how ridiculous would that be to spend all that money
Speaker 2: to go have dinner and come right back? You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm very nervous about that being the way
Speaker 1: that your brain works. What's your name? Your tsunam again?
Speaker 2: Man, Dylan?
Speaker 1: Dylan? Why don't you go instead of making it a cartoon,
Speaker 1: why don't you actually just go to France and do
Speaker 1: things and try to meet people and like put yourself
Speaker 1: out there a little bit. If you why didn't you
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: I think it's, you know, I think it's fear of
Speaker 2: trying to do that and then getting rejected.
Speaker 1: You know, here's bejecting, Dylan Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan.
Speaker 1: You want to know something crazy want I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you something crazy. I believe this
Speaker 1: sort of. I believe it in the moment that I'm
Speaker 1: saying it to you because I'm I'm I'm just hyped
Speaker 1: up talking to you, and I'm getting a hype. I
Speaker 1: feel hype. I feel hyped up right now. So I
Speaker 1: believe this in this very moment that I'm saying it. Okay, Dylan,
Speaker 1: the second you tried, you were successful if you So
Speaker 1: that's the thing is if you if you go to
Speaker 1: France and you're there and you're look at you're standing
Speaker 1: and you're eating You're sorry, you're at dinner and you're
Speaker 1: eating a snail, or like you're walking around town and
Speaker 1: you're looking to people, You're gonna feel so great that
Speaker 1: you tried. Because that's part of the is like if
Speaker 1: you you're you're sitting here and you're going like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more meaning out of my life.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to feel like I made something out of myself.
Speaker 1: And when you just sit in your house and you
Speaker 1: fester with that, you're failing. Is because you're sitting and
Speaker 1: you're festering. But the fact that you traveled and you
Speaker 1: like you tried, you made some effort against this thing
Speaker 1: that you're festering with, that's gonna make you feel really good.
Speaker 1: Not whether or not your try was quote unquote successful
Speaker 1: in whatever you want your crazy definition of success to be,
Speaker 1: but just the fact that you tried, You put yourself
Speaker 1: out there, you did something outside of your normal routine.
Speaker 1: You tried to talk to someone maybe you wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to. You tried to go somewhere maybe you wanted
Speaker 1: to go to. You try. Not so much that any
Speaker 1: of these efforts were successful, but that they were efforts
Speaker 1: ever at all in the first place.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that feels really I mean I'm really hyped
Speaker 2: dooc and get right now too, but that feels really true. Well,
Speaker 2: it resonates with me what you're saying, like the trying,
Speaker 2: because my fear is the looking back at having not
Speaker 2: tried anything right.
Speaker 1: Right, So that so there, So all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is fucking try something. Man, it might not work. You
Speaker 1: might get to you might get to Paris and be
Speaker 1: looking at the Eiffel Tower and go. You know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's actually kind of lame, small and life
Speaker 1: is meaningless. But unless you but at least you you
Speaker 1: push yourself far enough to figure out that that wasn't
Speaker 1: the answer, you know, that'll feel good you exactly. So,
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I you know, I hope, I hope.
Speaker 1: I hope that this got through to you in some
Speaker 1: meaningful way. Thanks for sharing all the stuff with me, Dylan.
Speaker 1: I really hope that you find so you find some
Speaker 1: kind of meaning in your in your life.
Speaker 2: It's really cool. I'll pop in the chat after my
Speaker 2: trip when I make it happen.
Speaker 1: Dude, please please please do please, dear God, please dear God.
Speaker 1: If you, if you're if you do do this, which
Speaker 1: I hope you do, give me some kind of follow up,
Speaker 1: and whether it's in the chat or in one of
Speaker 1: my in one, in an email episode or something like that,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that you don't know when. Oh well,
Speaker 1: let me you h we don't know when? When is there.
Speaker 1: What are you waiting for?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess i'd have to just you know, make
Speaker 2: the plan and set it up and do the travel.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you have to take time off work?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I take some time off the work, you know.
Speaker 1: All right? Do you have any oh you run a
Speaker 1: Do you have any pt O left this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, fucking do that ship, dude, God damn, do
Speaker 1: it and then let me know how I went.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to I'm gonna go to Paris.
Speaker 2: I don't know for how long. A couple of days.
Speaker 2: I won't just have dinner.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, that was terrible.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I think that it wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: It'd be if I.
Speaker 1: Mean, if your goal is, if your goal is for
Speaker 1: it to be funny. Yes, it was funny, but I
Speaker 1: don't think this is what you want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go and walk around and just look at just go
Speaker 1: and just just go and stand there and see if
Speaker 1: it feels fucking any difference at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I think the idea of telling somebody, oh,
Speaker 2: I had dinner in France yesterday and just be like what.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: You know what maybe you know what you know what
Speaker 1: you know what? Maybe that really is all you need.
Speaker 1: Maybe you do. Maybe I actually take back everything. I
Speaker 1: actually take everything I said about your going there to
Speaker 1: eat lunch and coming and METI to the back idea.
Speaker 1: I take it back. I actually don't think it's a
Speaker 1: stupid idea. I actually think if you did that it
Speaker 1: would accomplish the same as if you went for four days.
Speaker 1: It's just again, it's just comes back to the fact
Speaker 1: that you took some form of action to try and
Speaker 1: deal with this. So maybe maybe you do do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I take back what I said. Well,
Speaker 1: whatever you do, let me let me send therapy Gecko
Speaker 1: mail at gmail dot com. Send me an email. Uh
Speaker 1: if you if you have an update on this, I'm
Speaker 1: very curious about it. Uh, Dylan, is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 2: Not at all. Just keep trying and and you know,
Speaker 2: tell yourself a better story in your head.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to I'm gonna try to take some of the
Speaker 1: fucking advice that I talk about on this plane. This
Speaker 1: is why I I'm sorry to end this on the rap.
Speaker 1: But I tell everything I say to callers on this
Speaker 1: podcast is just me trying to convince myself of things.
Speaker 1: So you know that thanks for that man, you have
Speaker 1: a going Dylan.
Speaker 2: You two get thank you.
Speaker 1: It is funny the idea of him going, and I
Speaker 1: had to look back. I had to be like, well,
Speaker 1: why do I think that's a stupid idea? I still do.
Speaker 1: I still kind of do think it's a stupid idea.
Speaker 1: But again, the core is that he tried, he went
Speaker 1: and did something maybe that could make him Just the
Speaker 1: core I think the idea behind obviously you know, we
Speaker 1: all know that, like and I've had this same conversation
Speaker 1: with people on this podcast with obviously, like a travel
Speaker 1: and going to new places isn't in and of itself,
Speaker 1: is not going to like change make you happy, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, I well, okay, in this case scenario, it's
Speaker 1: just like if he hadn't done it forever and he
Speaker 1: tried something he was uncomfortable with in an effort to
Speaker 1: find more meaning to his life. I think this was
Speaker 1: actually something to that that could be kind of powerful
Speaker 1: about that, And you could achieve that by literally going
Speaker 1: to France for dinner and then coming right home. But
Speaker 1: it is a waste of money. Why would you do that? Hello?
Speaker 4: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi? What's your name?
Speaker 4: Mercy?
Speaker 1: Marcie? What's up? Marci?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: How?
Speaker 1: What? What brings you to want to talk on the
Speaker 1: Therapy iCal podcast today?
Speaker 4: Well, I've actually wanted to talk to you for a
Speaker 4: long time. Cool, a little nervous, but otherwise I'm good. Sorry,
Speaker 4: I was just feeding my cat's got a little out
Speaker 4: of breath because I'm fair.
Speaker 1: No, no, no worries, no worries.
Speaker 4: I actually wanted to talk a little bit about, uh,
Speaker 4: like something positive that's going on in my tumultuous world.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, let me hear it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, going through a few, you know, pretty big
Speaker 4: hardships between my husband and I, but he and I
Speaker 4: are like stronger than we've ever been. Ohay, yeah, and
Speaker 4: it feels really great. It was one of those like
Speaker 4: I'm high in the shower thoughts that kind of piqued
Speaker 4: my interest yesterday because we were just we've just been
Speaker 4: going through it and with our families and just catastrophes
Speaker 4: you know, here and there, and we live in Florida,
Speaker 4: so we also deal with you know, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you guys get hit Did you guys get
Speaker 1: hit by by Hurricane big Boy?
Speaker 4: No, thankfully, we've actually made it been really really lucky
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. Our area is kind of
Speaker 4: isolated and off to the side, like we live. I
Speaker 4: don't want to say exactly where, but we live very
Speaker 4: close to Jacksonville, and we just somehow have totally been
Speaker 4: missed by at least two of the hurricanes. And then
Speaker 4: we got like you know, extreme outer bands and a
Speaker 4: lot of like flooding and stuff where we live. But
Speaker 4: other than that, we got really really lucky. It was
Speaker 4: all of them this year.
Speaker 1: How long have you and your husband been together.
Speaker 4: We just celebrated our fifth anniversary in September five.
Speaker 3: Five.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's cool. That's cool. And so you said, you
Speaker 1: said you have been through it tumultuous times, but you're
Speaker 1: stronger than ever.
Speaker 4: Stronger than ever. Like even even when we fight, which
Speaker 4: is very rare, we always come out like learning something
Speaker 4: new about one another, as if we Sometimes I feel
Speaker 4: like we're just meeting each other for the first time
Speaker 4: over and over and over again, and it feels really
Speaker 4: cool because you know, he and I were a pretty homebody.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't do a whole lot, We don't
Speaker 4: have a whole lot of friends outside of our jobs
Speaker 4: because we were kind of we work a lot, and
Speaker 4: we're kind of isolated. We live away from his family,
Speaker 4: which sucks. So on on all sides, we're just going
Speaker 4: through it. But like everything else between him and I
Speaker 4: is just like we just feel like we can take
Speaker 4: on the whole world together and fuck everybody else.
Speaker 1: Uh that's that's uh, that's so beautiful. That's that is
Speaker 1: that's like an incredibly uh valuable one could say rare
Speaker 1: one could say a rare valuable thing to have in
Speaker 1: your life. Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, particularly how you know, before we met, in like
Speaker 4: our past relationships, they were pretty bad. And you know,
Speaker 4: when you're we're kind of both kind of empathed, so
Speaker 4: we end up taking a lot on from other people.
Speaker 4: And so in those relationships, we had a lot of
Speaker 4: people that were like taking from us and never giving
Speaker 4: in return. But we're just those type of people who
Speaker 4: are just like, Okay, well if we keep giving, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe the person will give back.
Speaker 1: Can you ask, can how old you guys are? I'm
Speaker 1: just curious where you're at in your life journey?
Speaker 4: So I am thirty three cool and he is thirty
Speaker 4: seven cool.
Speaker 1: That's cool. I'm I'm about to turn twenty seven, and
Speaker 1: I keep I don't know why, I'm always thinking. I'm
Speaker 1: always thinking about what my life is going to be
Speaker 1: like in like ten years, and I'm kind of obsessed
Speaker 1: with I'm kind of obsessed with the idea that, like
Speaker 1: I could my life could be like really awesome when
Speaker 1: I'm like thirty seven, like very different, weird. It's cool
Speaker 1: to just imagine like different. They can think about how
Speaker 1: radically different your life was ten years ago and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, my lift you radically different ten years from now.
Speaker 1: I think about it. What is you said you wanted
Speaker 1: to specifically talk about something positive? What was the specific
Speaker 1: positive thing you wanted to you wanted to share?
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that really was the positive thing. It's
Speaker 4: just because we have so many negative things going on,
Speaker 4: it just feels like at least my at least my
Speaker 4: relationship is you know, on a forward path and feels
Speaker 4: like it's it feels like it's genuine, you know, I never,
Speaker 4: I very rarely feel unseen by him and being that
Speaker 4: And I'm going to go with this A tiny tangent.
Speaker 4: He and I both have late diagnosed ADHD, like pretty
Speaker 4: pretty severe for him, and I have like a my
Speaker 4: attention desk that is definitely.
Speaker 2: Like the issue for me.
Speaker 4: But we're both really strong speakers, like him especially he's
Speaker 4: very articulate and he's also bilingual. He's from d R
Speaker 4: and so he's very intelligent person and he's gotten himself
Speaker 4: into conversations with people and made it so that he
Speaker 4: could like enlighten someone. He's very spiritual in that way.
Speaker 2: We're both Buddhists.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, so.
Speaker 1: It's uh, where'd you had you guys be.
Speaker 4: Tender?
Speaker 2: Actually that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. I like that. I would have thought
Speaker 1: there's because there's like, what's the Christian mingle of Buddhism.
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe it could be something like that,
Speaker 1: it's tender? Do you guys? I have I have a
Speaker 1: few questions. I have a few questions for you, just
Speaker 1: because I'm curious, because you sound like you've found a
Speaker 1: thing that's very special and good. So I have questions
Speaker 1: about it. Where did you do you? Guys? Feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of your because you from the way you
Speaker 1: talk about him, it sounds like you're both very like
Speaker 1: spiritually aligned and like worldview. It sounds like you have
Speaker 1: a lot of like aligned values, is yes, And so
Speaker 1: I'm curious when you two first met, do you feel
Speaker 1: like you came into the relationship both independently possessing those
Speaker 1: values on which you're aligned, or do you feel like
Speaker 1: the the alignment developed over the course of of the relationship.
Speaker 4: So both yes and yes. So the way we met
Speaker 4: regardless of Tender. So we started on the app. Of course,
Speaker 4: you know, talked on the app for a few days
Speaker 4: and it was just, you know, just surface level shit
Speaker 4: like I like Star Wars, you like Star Wars, blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, that kind of bullshit. And then by the
Speaker 4: towards the end of the week, he asked if he
Speaker 4: could call me. And if you know anything about tender,
Speaker 4: that's pretty rare that anyone actually wants to call you.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a good idea because it's
Speaker 1: you can really get gauged so much more about a
Speaker 1: person by talking to them on the phone than you
Speaker 1: can't over the right.
Speaker 4: Next accurate number one number one, making sure they're a
Speaker 4: real person, right and then and then hopefully end up
Speaker 4: not being a serial killer or whatever. But so I
Speaker 4: was like, sure, you know, I get off at five,
Speaker 4: call me at five thirty.
Speaker 2: I should be.
Speaker 4: Getting home around then, and I have twenty nine twenty
Speaker 4: or nine fifty nine whatever on the dot. He was
Speaker 4: calling me, and I was just like trying to get
Speaker 4: into my uh, into my room with all my ship
Speaker 4: in my hands. So I was like, oh, prompt, boy,
Speaker 4: and then we proceeded to have a conversation for seven
Speaker 4: and a half hours. Yeah, we just talked the whole
Speaker 4: time and talked about our lives, talked about our you know,
Speaker 4: things that we liked and things that they disliked. At
Speaker 4: the time, I was very involved with politics. I was
Speaker 4: a sitting chair for the Libertarian Party of Semuel County
Speaker 4: and I was very involved with stuff like that. And
Speaker 4: I was working for real estate company and basically running
Speaker 4: the office on my own and he, unfortunately at the time,
Speaker 4: was in between in between jobs. But but he was
Speaker 4: like on the way to getting a job and we
Speaker 4: just clicked like overnight, and I felt like I knew
Speaker 4: him better than I knew like the last boyfriend I
Speaker 4: had before and.
Speaker 1: Within so I'm really, really, really really uh, that's a
Speaker 1: fascinating fascinating story. I'm really curious about your take on something.
Speaker 1: This is something I really think about a lot in
Speaker 1: you know, my personal life. You know, when I've been
Speaker 1: like dating, and I was actually talking a lot about
Speaker 1: my friends a lot about this with my friend last night.
Speaker 1: You know, do you do you think two people?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: In my head, there's and it doesn't actually one or
Speaker 1: the other, but there's kind of like two schools of
Speaker 1: thought you could say, with relationships, where it's like you
Speaker 1: either kind of pick some one, you catch a wave
Speaker 1: of some kind like your two people meet, they decide
Speaker 1: to make it work, and then kind of gradually over
Speaker 1: time they develop their relationship with each other and they
Speaker 1: their love for each other kind of becomes deeper, versus
Speaker 1: kind of the other school of thought, which is like
Speaker 1: you get lucky or you search really really really hard
Speaker 1: and really really really intentionally until you find that person
Speaker 1: with whom you just kind of immediately feel like you
Speaker 1: click and like you, as you just said, know them
Speaker 1: almost pretty soon, pretty immediately, you feel like you know
Speaker 1: them almost as well as you know somebody that you
Speaker 1: did the whole other dance with for many years, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think it seems like it's kind of on
Speaker 1: the The answer lies somewhere between those two schools of thought.
Speaker 1: But I'm curious about your perspective because the way that
Speaker 1: it sounds like things worked out for you and this
Speaker 1: guy is that you felt it so immediately that you
Speaker 1: had this this seven hour connection with each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I knew the actual answer, but I
Speaker 4: definitely think it does. It's somewhere in between. You know,
Speaker 4: it's luck definitely, because I mean, like I said, I
Speaker 4: met him on Tinder, so I'm basically just you know,
Speaker 4: rolling the dice there totally. But you know, I also
Speaker 4: believe that, you know, I'm not like totally four soulmates,
Speaker 4: but I also kind of am and and he is
Speaker 4: just one of those people that I feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: if I hadn't.
Speaker 2: Passed life, he was there.
Speaker 4: You know, I felt like he was in my life,
Speaker 4: my whole life. Like we were just kind of talking
Speaker 4: about that last night, where we both kind of feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, if we had met a long time ago,
Speaker 4: like in our you know, high school years, that we
Speaker 4: would have been like obsessed with one another back then.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, probably wouldn't have been fun for
Speaker 4: our friends because we would have never had friends.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting. Well, so that's so interesting too because you
Speaker 1: say that you two would have been obsessed with each
Speaker 1: other in high school? Do you think that? I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're both in your thirties and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of change that happens between eighteen to thirty. And because
Speaker 1: there's another like kind of also like in when I'm
Speaker 1: like thinking about the schools of thought of how two
Speaker 1: people come to form a strong relationship, is like, do
Speaker 1: you ever feel like two people? Maybe if two people,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to become not a different person,
Speaker 1: but maybe like like a better version of yourself in
Speaker 1: order to truly be there and the way that you
Speaker 1: need to be there for the person that you're with.
Speaker 1: And it takes a long time to kind of to
Speaker 1: I guess become that version of yourself.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think it's important that those two people
Speaker 4: have you know, like common interests for sure, common values.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean the biggest one for us is,
Speaker 4: you know, we we grew up you know, metal heads.
Speaker 4: You know, I grew up in Las Vegas and he
Speaker 4: grew up in d r and then in Orlando when
Speaker 4: he came to the States, and we both were like
Speaker 4: goths and you know, stupid, but also we had fun.
Speaker 4: But you know, we've gone to metal shows together, We've
Speaker 4: gone to electronics shows together.
Speaker 2: We really love music.
Speaker 4: We both play music. I sing, I love dancing. Like
Speaker 4: we were really into music in general, and that for
Speaker 4: me is huge. That's been a that's been a key
Speaker 4: factor in most of my relationships in general. Like if
Speaker 4: we don't have music at common, then I can't hang
Speaker 4: out with you.
Speaker 3: That much.
Speaker 1: So what's, uh, what's what's next for your guys's uh lives?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna you think getting married? Do you think
Speaker 1: it about going to moving to Portugal? What's uh? What's happening?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, So we're we've been trying to have a baby
Speaker 4: for a couple of years. We've unfortunately had a couple
Speaker 4: of failures, but in one kind of recent which is
Speaker 4: one of the tumultuous things that has been going on.
Speaker 4: But that but we are that's okay, We're getting through it,
Speaker 4: and that's that's the next step. We're actually getting ready
Speaker 4: to move in with my family because we're you know,
Speaker 4: we're trying to combine bills and we've got older. My
Speaker 4: my grandmother's getting older, and my mom's getting older and
Speaker 4: everybody just kind of needs to be together. So that's
Speaker 4: also a very is going to happen this month.
Speaker 1: So yeah, are both of are both of you very
Speaker 1: like family oriented, like you're like his his family is
Speaker 1: your family, your family. His family kind of vibes absolutely.
Speaker 4: I love his family, he loves my family. We all
Speaker 4: get along great and and his family so much so
Speaker 4: different from mine, but also not because they're we're all
Speaker 4: just very loving families, which is it's a blessing.
Speaker 1: And how do you feel as though you got you guys?
Speaker 1: Your families are different?
Speaker 4: Well, his his are all Dominican and uh and mine
Speaker 4: are I only live know my like white side of
Speaker 4: my family, my my Irish side, but I'm half Mexican
Speaker 4: as well. But and I grew up in Las Vegas,
Speaker 4: so you know, I grew up with Mexican origin around
Speaker 4: me all the time. But I grew up with my
Speaker 4: Irish family and uh, so it's definitely different dynamic, Like
Speaker 4: you know, when we go to holidays and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: Like his family they do uh karaoke and they dance
Speaker 4: and they make big meals and there's everybody shouting and
Speaker 4: having a wonderful time and.
Speaker 2: Then at my my house, it's a little.
Speaker 4: More calm, you know, it's a little more uh reserved,
Speaker 4: I guess, but it's still loving and like kids are
Speaker 4: running around and you know, we're kind of a white
Speaker 4: trash family too, so it's it all kind of is
Speaker 4: the same for us. It's just love everywhere.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's really that's nice. I'm very I'm uh,
Speaker 1: I'm touched by you, guys, I really am. This is uh,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I think I do think that a good
Speaker 1: life probably has a lot of other people in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: This is all good.
Speaker 4: We've been talking for a long time.
Speaker 1: They're all good things. I'm trying to think if if
Speaker 1: I have any of the question, is there anything else
Speaker 1: that you wanted to to talk about?
Speaker 4: No, I think we probably should give someone else.
Speaker 3: A chance to talk.
Speaker 1: What's your name is, Mercy?
Speaker 4: Mercy Mercy.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm very happy for you, uh, Mercy, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that you It's kind of cool. Well, because a lot
Speaker 1: of people, I'm sure. First of all, this is this
Speaker 1: is all this whole phone call has been sponsored by Tinder.
Speaker 1: They paid this caller to call in and talk about
Speaker 1: her experience. No, that's not true at all, but it does.
Speaker 1: This is a good This is an advert to because
Speaker 1: a lot of people are getting fed up with uh
Speaker 1: dating apps. But it's like sometimes sometimes sometimes if you're
Speaker 1: patient enough, I feel like you just you get lucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's definitely not what it used
Speaker 4: to be. And and I was. It was my last
Speaker 4: ditch effort at the time. So what can you do?
Speaker 3: It worked out?
Speaker 1: Uh, Mercy is or anything else you want to say before.
Speaker 4: We go, Nope, thank you for your time and I
Speaker 4: really appreciated your conversation.
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Mercy. I have a good rest
Speaker 1: of the night.
Speaker 2: You too.
Speaker 4: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: Well that was that was nice. See see you guys.
Speaker 1: Well you gotta do. You just gotta keep trying. Maybe hopefully,
Speaker 1: maybe you'll get lucky and you'll meet you'll meet somebody
Speaker 1: who you have a you call them and you guys
Speaker 1: have a seven hour conversation. That's cool. There's hope. I
Speaker 1: feel there's hope out there that fall in love and
Speaker 1: not and to look at stuff and eat food, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, this is hope. This is hope. But I think,
Speaker 1: oh god, I feel I'm trying to like if I've
Speaker 1: been speaking, I've said this a bunch of times already.
Speaker 1: But if I've been speaking too sincerely for too long,
Speaker 1: I'll really want to think of something stupid to say.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't think of anything that was remotely funny.
Speaker 1: So I just had to put a period at the
Speaker 1: end of my sincerity, which is which is fine, which
Speaker 1: is fine.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, how are you doing well?
Speaker 1: Hello? How are you doing sir? What's your name?
Speaker 3: My name is Griffin?
Speaker 1: Griffin? What can I what can I do you for
Speaker 1: this evening? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I I was curious if if you were or anyone,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it has had any sort of like
Speaker 3: uh weird, I guess uncommon uh like health issues.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: That like that that aren't common. I myself have had
Speaker 3: scarlet fever.
Speaker 1: Oh that's like from the eighteen hundreds, right, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was still a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until the doctor told me that's what I had.
Speaker 1: I have the other the other day, my asshole was bleeding,
Speaker 1: which to me feels like a very twenty twenty four illness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually uh yeah, they didn't start doing that
Speaker 3: until I think this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very gen z thing to have a
Speaker 1: to have a bleed, asshole? How did you get scarlet fever?
Speaker 3: So, I mean this is years and years ago, but
Speaker 3: I like through middle and high school. I'm thirty one now,
Speaker 3: but I got strapped throughout like I countless times, like
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. Apparently I was really
Speaker 3: prone to getting it, and I guess one of the
Speaker 3: times it ended up going dormant. So I felt fine
Speaker 3: and I wasn't showing any symptoms of anything, and then
Speaker 3: I started getting like rash all over my body and
Speaker 3: just like feeling miserable and had no idea what it
Speaker 3: was from. Yeah, apparently the whatever the like virus of
Speaker 3: that causes strep throat, I guess had gone dormant and
Speaker 3: turned itself into scarlet fever. Uh. The funny, the funniest
Speaker 3: part is that you brought up assholes. Actually, uh because
Speaker 3: they they they swabbed my throat like they do for
Speaker 3: strep throat, and it came up negative and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: like one of like one of the main places that
Speaker 3: I have this rash, it is like it is on
Speaker 3: my ass, and so they swabbed that and then that's
Speaker 3: when it came up positive.
Speaker 1: So how many you when's the last time somebody had
Speaker 1: scarlet fever in America. Are you like the only guy
Speaker 1: who has it now? Or like, what's the deal with this?
Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea. I mean I've never even
Speaker 3: looked it up. That's why I was like curious, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I could I I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I thought like, wait, wait, wait, wait you haven't you
Speaker 1: haven't looked it up?
Speaker 3: How many people have had it?
Speaker 1: Or like, have you like looked into it?
Speaker 3: I mean, well I had it years ago. I mean
Speaker 3: I looked into it after that, but it's.
Speaker 1: Been a while. Scarlet fever, Okay, there are a few there.
Speaker 1: Scarlet fever is very Scarlet fever says, according to Google,
Speaker 1: is very rare. There are fewer than twenty thousand US
Speaker 1: cases per year. But it does say that it resolves
Speaker 1: within days two weeks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it wasn't. Uh yeah, once they
Speaker 3: gave once they realized I had it, I mean I was.
Speaker 2: I was good after that.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to look it up on Wikipedia see
Speaker 1: scarlet fever Wikipedia. When did it start? Who invented it?
Speaker 1: When did it start?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is this a lady with a weird tone? Oh? This
Speaker 1: is I'm never you know what? Never look up disease
Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. You won't like what you Oh wait, okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm on the Wikipedia page for scarlet fever.
Speaker 1: On history. Under history it says the dick test. Did
Speaker 1: you know there's a dick? This is real. If you
Speaker 1: go to the scarlet fever Wikipedia page and go to history,
Speaker 1: it's there's a there's a it says the dick test. Okay.
Speaker 1: The dick test, developed in nineteen twenty four by George
Speaker 1: and Gladdie's Dick, was used to identify those susceptible to
Speaker 1: scarlet fever. The dick test involved injecting a diluted strain
Speaker 1: of the streptinoch known to cause scarlet fever, and if
Speaker 1: no reaction was seen in the skin. Have you have
Speaker 1: you tried in injecting yourself with a diluted strain of streptinok.
Speaker 3: Uh No, I can't say that I have. I have
Speaker 3: not tried that.
Speaker 1: Now, well, you should try the dick test, dude, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's what you're doctor did on Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, they brought a bunch of Griffin.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Griffin finished. I wanted to finish what you're
Speaker 1: gonna say.
Speaker 3: They brought a bunch of like nurses and doctors uh
Speaker 3: in uh because none of them had ever seen it.
Speaker 3: And I remember the doctor was like, you might not
Speaker 3: ever be someone that had this again. And they were
Speaker 3: all like examining my body. It was a very weird experience.
Speaker 1: Well, the good news about having an old disease is
Speaker 1: that they figured out how to cure it by now,
Speaker 1: and you and you and you were able to get
Speaker 1: through it all without having to take the Dick test.
Speaker 3: Correct. I might be sterile because of it, though, That's
Speaker 3: what they told me.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Uh, go to your doctors, get things checked out if
Speaker 3: you're if you have symptoms of anything. I guess I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: See you later, Griffin have on? Did you say his
Speaker 1: name was Griffin or Griffith? Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.
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Speaker 3: the very last fucking second to tell me that it
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Speaker 2: We would you do?
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