1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,440 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear you. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. What's your name? 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: My name is Dylan Dylan. 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Have we ever talked before? Dylan? 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: No, we haven't, not at all. 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: What's up, man? 8 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: How you doing A few times? Well? 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: You doing? 10 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeh? I'm looking for meaning, looking for meaning in life. 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: I kind of want to not find myself waking up 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: at the end of my life and looking back and 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: realizing that I didn't live it along the way. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: I just kind of waited, Yeah, yeah, I would be 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: happy to talk about that. How old are you? 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Thirty five? 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you do? You do you think you've 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: been well? I guess that would start with, like, as, 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: what in the first thirty five years of your life 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: have you been doing or or valuing? 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, well flash summary of thirty five years deck. 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: I was raised hyper religious and a pseudo kind of 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: cult like branch of Christianity. I came to like the 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 2: Westboro Baptistricts. Got out of that. Whoa, yeah, you can. 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Keep keep keep keep going. No no, no, top, I'm gonna 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: sit back and shut up keep going. 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: So eighteen ran Off joined the army, went to Iraq, 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: fell in love with dow in my unit. We were 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: together during our deployment, talked under the stars in the 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: desert and thought that it was going to be forever 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: and if we could get through war, then we could 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: the rest. And didn't it turn out to be what 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: I thought. We were just young, and you know, she 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: wanted to go in and see what other options life has. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: And I don't blame her for that, you know, Like 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: I said, we were both kids, but I took it 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: hard for the first fifteen years after that, and I 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: haven't had a relationship since working Can I can? 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: I can? 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: I can? 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: I stop you for I want to hear the rest 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: of your life story, but you say okay. To sum 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: it up, Yeah, you met this lady in your unit, 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: and you guys really fell in love with each other 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: and things didn't work out. She tried to pursue other options, 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: which I and you guys met when you were eighteen, Right, 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: that's what you say? Uh? You kind of alluded to 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: saying that it hit you pretty hard for the for 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years after that. Tell me more about that. 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, but basically my entire twenties in the 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: last I guess, like nineteen in the twenty and in 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: my entire twenties. I just was in a deep depression, 53 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: you know, working dead end jobs, and I ended up 54 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: in factory in the back room for six years, just 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: kind of going through the motions of getting money to 56 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: pay the bills and then going home and watching YouTube. 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: And I finally woke up when I had a very 58 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: close friend to past and I kind of got faced 59 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: with a decision where I was like, well, I could 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: either kind of give up or I could try, and 61 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: so I chose to try. But now I'm there. Now 62 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: that's where I'm at. I met this place where I'm like, 63 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: it's like I'm paralyzed, existential paralyzed, pterialism. 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 65 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm not trying, why I'm not 66 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: doing this thing. 67 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: I want to. 68 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me ask you to clarify 69 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: something you said. You woke up one day and then 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: decided you wanted to You said you had a friend 71 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: pass away and that was kind of like catalyst for you, 72 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: as you say, trying. How long ago was this. 73 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: In July twenty one? Yeah, Well, the only real friends 74 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: person I talked to about everything. We're just friends friends, friends, yeah, 75 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: not romantic. Yeah, but it was the surprise that happened fast. 76 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: When you said you were just working back a little bit, 77 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: you said that there's this thing with this girl hit 78 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: you hard for fifteen years. When you say you were 79 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: in a depression, are you not saying you were in 80 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: a depression? I was thinking about that relationship for fifteen years. 81 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Would you were you? 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: I think it was it was a mix of things. 83 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: I ended up losing my state that I had in 84 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: my childhood around that time, and just like I just 85 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: fell into a deep stage depression. 86 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: I think it was. 87 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Caused by a lot of different things, but one big 88 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: thing was definitely Yeah, I felt pretty worthless and not 89 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: worthy of people's time. I guess after that relationship so apart, 90 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: I didn't deal with it very healthily for those for 91 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: that period of time. 92 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: And you say you lost, you say you lost your faith, 93 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: like religious faith. 94 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. I got exposed to more things in the world, 95 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, when I went overseas and I was in 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: a part of the downtown bank Dad and we were 97 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: rolling through and I saw people shopping and people eating, 98 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: kids playing with a soccer ball in particular, and just 99 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: kind of hit me that for the most part, they 100 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: were just people there, they weren't the evil Islamic other 101 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I don't know, it's well, I mean, I. 102 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, you said, you said you grew up in 103 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: the Westboro Baptist Church, right. 104 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: You know, kind of a branch of uh what'd call 105 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: the first Baptist Northern Baptist Church that idolized the west 106 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: Bureo Baptistrict's not actually part of the west Boro baptistricts. 107 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: But we looked at them guys as like heroes on 108 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: the front line. 109 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: But but you you know, yeah, you're going up in 110 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: a church that's basically like telling you, like those guys 111 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: over there, you know, are are are? You know that 112 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: you're they're fucked up. 113 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: Right exactly, that they're evil in some way. And then 114 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: they were just people when I. 115 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Got right right. 116 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Now? 117 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: Yea, you you said in twenty twenty one, you woke 118 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: up and you were like, I'm gonna start trying. What 119 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: does that mean? 120 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: I guess it. It meant like, I looks for a 121 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: better job. I got in at the male clinic insecurity, 122 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: and you know, it paid better and had more opportunities 123 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: as a career path. I thought that that was trying more. 124 00:07:52,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: I was hoping to maybe try writing. I don't know, 125 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: I guess I guess I felt like I put my 126 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: life on pause during the depression and didn't really try 127 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: much of anything beyond just going through a dead end job, 128 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: getting enough to pay for necessities in my rent and 129 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: then that was it, you know, not a lot of 130 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: social activity and not a lot of anything other than consuming 131 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: YouTube content that are going on Wikipedia. 132 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: So when you said, when you say that you're you're 133 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: like looking for meaning and you don't want to wake 134 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: up at the end of your life and feel like 135 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: it was unlived. There's a power, there's a powerful uh 136 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: desires what But so you cut like to audit yourself 137 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: and audit your brain? I mean what, like what do 138 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: you value? I mean that's the thing, is like you 139 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: can't really search for meeting you like kind of create 140 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: it from within and decided, uh, you know, for yourself. 141 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: So what what? 142 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: What? 143 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: When you are thinking about these things, have you like 144 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: decided for yourself is meaningful? 145 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess that's yeah, I mean, I've I mean 146 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: that's literally I guess. The question the existential crisis part 147 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: of it is just like how do you create meaning? 148 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: How do I create self? Value or work, you know, 149 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: without like trying to find validation from other people, because 150 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: that's been like my stumbling block because I do die 151 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: your validation from other people that I don't get it. 152 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no no at a certain point, God, 153 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: it's so hard to like fucking mentally get there. But 154 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm also having the some epiphanies of like, you truly 155 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: have to build you if you if you if your 156 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: car runs on the engine of other people's validation, you you, uh, 157 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: you're just fucked. 158 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: You know. 159 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: You have to kind of build, you have to really 160 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: build like a solid foundation of like deciding that your 161 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: fucking life matters and that do your you care about 162 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: your having a good life? Uh? But again like I, uh, well, 163 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: what makes what would make you have a good life? 164 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: Like what do you what do you want? My dog? 165 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: I think connection with some people would be good, But 166 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: it feels like this herculean task, you know, because now 167 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm got so much life baggage, you know, how do 168 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: I just show up and dump that on somebody's laugh 169 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, or expect as an adult? You know, it's 170 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: just like you just bring so much more to it. 171 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: When we were on the playground as kid, you had nothing. 172 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: He just walked up and said, I want to be friends. Yeah, 173 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: and now we're friend cool. 174 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: You know, Oh man, you know, I totally feel where 175 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: you're coming from. Dude, I really do, I really feel 176 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: where you're coming from. And uh, I'm I can off. 177 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna off for a thought to you, Why 178 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: do you do you feel like it is so necessary 179 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: to let that baggage, uh define you? 180 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: Why? 181 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: Like? Why? Like why are you holding onto it? Why? 182 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Like in your brain you're talking about like I I 183 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: like even just the way that you've mentally set up 184 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: your existence is is by putting your baggage first and 185 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: realizing and and just saying like you've like kind of 186 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: mentally decided for yourself that your baggage is a defining 187 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: element of who you are and so therefore to make 188 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: new connections you have to put it at the at 189 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: the forefront of who you are. And that won't work. 190 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: It's hard to I wanted, you know, the whole I 191 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: can't release sit here and uh rant about how you 192 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: should you know, just let it go, because I really 193 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: know that that's it's not that easy. 194 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: But I think it's kind of very interesting. 195 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: It's a but it's a I just know in my 196 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: even though like, uh, I think I've done it in 197 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: in like my life and I think it's a makes sense, 198 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: but you you just it's a mistake to let it 199 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: define you and put it at the you know, your 200 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: mental forefront image of who you are. It's a real mistake, 201 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: and it is it is something that you have control 202 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: over because you kind of get to define your own 203 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: perspective of who you are. And so you're you're a 204 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: control of whether or not you want to let yeah, yeah, yeah, 205 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: you got to change the story. 206 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: Well that's so I am to answer some of the 207 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: questions in the chat. I do go to the VIA 208 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: center and see it therapist, a real counselor too. 209 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, do me a favorite? Do me a favorite? 210 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Can you not? Can you not look at the chat? 211 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: Oh? 212 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sorry what we're saying. 213 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: So I was just gonna say that changing the story 214 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: I tell myself. I guess I had seen my baggage 215 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: of something that I thought I had to sit you know, 216 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: but you think like could literally just set it down 217 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: and move forward without it, you know, just like say 218 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: scrap it the first thirty five and let's just go 219 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: from here. No, I don't know. 220 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if that's what I'm few. 221 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I mean, maybe I'm really no. Uh, 222 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm again. I'm not like I'm not advising on anything. 223 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of thinking about these things alongside you. 224 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said, there's something to 225 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: be said about like you don't have to Huh. You 226 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: thought you had to fix it first before it's an 227 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: interesting idea. I have to fix this baggage. I have 228 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: need to fix these things about myself before I'm able 229 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: to have connections with people. Yeah, I've been in my 230 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: personal life and I've really been thinking a lot about Uh, 231 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: this idea that you can kind of accept the I 232 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: used to be afraid of, like accepting certain things about 233 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: myself because then it meant I wouldn't work on them, right, 234 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Like that's the fallacy. It's like, what's like like like 235 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: like if I accept that I don't like the way 236 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: if I accept that I don't like the way I 237 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: live my life, or I accept it for what it is, 238 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll stop working on it, and then I'll just continue 239 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: to sink more in a misery. That's kind of the 240 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: fallacy I was working off of, and I've kind of 241 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: begin to understand it more as I get older, which 242 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: is like no acceptance is like I ecept is that 243 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: you can accept things about yourself that you don't like 244 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: and still work to fix them. It's just that you 245 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to like fucking hate yourself in order 246 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: to fix yourself. I don't think do you know that 247 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: makes sense? 248 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: It does make sense, but yeah, I do believe, like 249 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: I thought the same thing that like, if I accept 250 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: the shit parts, then I'm not going to fix them 251 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: or I'm not going to improve on them. Then if 252 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: I accept them, I'll just let it go, right, So 253 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: I believe I think I believe that same thing. But 254 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: that's yeah, I guess that is a fallacy. 255 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: So give it. It's really hard, it is, Yes, it is, 256 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: it is. It's really. 257 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I've written a few short things about that 258 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: feeling looking in the mirror. 259 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, hm hmm, yeah, I don't. Uh, it's a whole 260 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. I think this is the plot 261 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: of the movie Surfs Up. Have you ever seen that movie? 262 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: I'll have not. 263 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Now I can't say it, but. 264 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I think there's some messages in there about hating yourself 265 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: and trying to overcome that. 266 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: I have to check it out. I've seen surf Ninjas. 267 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: What is that? What is that movie? 268 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: It's uh shipes movie about these three brothers that it 269 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: turns out they are ninjas. 270 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: I want you, I just can we? 271 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: Can we? 272 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: I just for your own I don't know? Can we? 273 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I want to think of something for you to do. 274 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Is there do you want to do any like? Like 275 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: you want you You're just looking for meaning like I 276 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: I think you're like you're due for like a Walter 277 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: Midty fucking adventure. You're done that that. 278 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: I I'm not sure who Walter Mitty is, but the 279 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: idea of an adventure that hits home. I've been looking 280 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: into Ernest Hemingway recently as a right just dove. 281 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: Do you do you have kids? 282 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: No? 283 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: Give well, wife or a girlfriend or anything? 284 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: No? 285 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: My only of real Yeah. 286 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: Would you have any responsibility? 287 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 288 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: You have a cat? You can get a cat? Go 289 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: go go? Did go do? When's the last time you 290 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: left the country. 291 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: H Iraq? 292 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Back when you were eighteen ago? 293 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? A long time ago. 294 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Do you have any savings? 295 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: I have a little bit? 296 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could you should do something. I know. It's 297 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: not like, yeah, I gotta solve your problems by traveling, 298 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: but like if you're if you're looking to like be like, oh, 299 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: I want to make something out of my life. I 300 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: mean you should go do something on a weird adventure, 301 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: go to is there anywhere that you've ever thought of? 302 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: So I like the whimsical ideas of doing random things 303 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: that so like. I bought Babbel a year and a 304 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: half ago because I was like, I'll learn a second language. 305 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: I tried to learn Spanish because it would be so 306 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: useful to know Spanish for so many reasons, but it 307 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: was like eating my vegetables. So I didn't get into it, 308 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: didn't do it. Just recently I found out that the 309 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: creator of my favorite show, Pushing Daisies, his favorite movie 310 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: and inspiration was Amaali. It's a French movie from two 311 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: thousand and one about a gal. It's really great, recommend 312 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: it to anybody. Amazingly shot, very visual. But I was like, hey, 313 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't be funny to buy it watch it in French 314 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: without subtitles. I don't know French, but I did that 315 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: and it was great. It's awesome. It's cool to watch 316 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: a movie in a different language without subtitles, because then 317 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: you don't pay attention to the words and you get 318 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: to see everything else about it. But I was said 319 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: Ernest Hemingway loved France. Wouldn't it be cool to buy 320 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: a ticket, fly to France, have dinner, after dinner, get 321 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: on the plane, fly back. 322 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Why do you hold on? Why would? Why the fuck would? 323 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: Why the fuck would you do that? Why do you 324 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: just go to France? Why do you have to make 325 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: it a crazy Why don't I just go for a bit, 326 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: just go so for a spend a little bit more 327 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: than a I'll just go and go on a little adventure. 328 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I could. 329 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 330 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 2: I guess that's the whimsical part about it. It's just like, 331 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: how ridiculous would that be to spend all that money 332 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: to go have dinner and come right back? You know, 333 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 334 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm very I'm very nervous about that being the way 335 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: that your brain works. What's your name? Your tsunam again? 336 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: Man, Dylan? 337 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Dylan? Why don't you go instead of making it a cartoon, 338 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: why don't you actually just go to France and do 339 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: things and try to meet people and like put yourself 340 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: out there a little bit. If you why didn't you 341 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: do that? 342 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 2: I think it's, you know, I think it's fear of 343 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: trying to do that and then getting rejected. 344 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, here's bejecting, Dylan Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan. 345 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: You want to know something crazy want I'm gonna tell you. 346 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you something crazy. I believe this 347 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: sort of. I believe it in the moment that I'm 348 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: saying it to you because I'm I'm I'm just hyped 349 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: up talking to you, and I'm getting a hype. I 350 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: feel hype. I feel hyped up right now. So I 351 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: believe this in this very moment that I'm saying it. Okay, Dylan, 352 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: the second you tried, you were successful if you So 353 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: that's the thing is if you if you go to 354 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: France and you're there and you're look at you're standing 355 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: and you're eating You're sorry, you're at dinner and you're 356 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: eating a snail, or like you're walking around town and 357 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: you're looking to people, You're gonna feel so great that 358 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: you tried. Because that's part of the is like if 359 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: you you're you're sitting here and you're going like, Oh, 360 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more meaning out of my life. 361 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to feel like I made something out of myself. 362 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: And when you just sit in your house and you 363 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: fester with that, you're failing. Is because you're sitting and 364 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: you're festering. But the fact that you traveled and you 365 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: like you tried, you made some effort against this thing 366 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: that you're festering with, that's gonna make you feel really good. 367 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: Not whether or not your try was quote unquote successful 368 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: in whatever you want your crazy definition of success to be, 369 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: but just the fact that you tried, You put yourself 370 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: out there, you did something outside of your normal routine. 371 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: You tried to talk to someone maybe you wanted to 372 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: talk to. You tried to go somewhere maybe you wanted 373 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: to go to. You try. Not so much that any 374 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: of these efforts were successful, but that they were efforts 375 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: ever at all in the first place. 376 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that feels really I mean I'm really hyped 377 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: dooc and get right now too, but that feels really true. Well, 378 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 2: it resonates with me what you're saying, like the trying, 379 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: because my fear is the looking back at having not 380 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: tried anything right. 381 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: Right, So that so there, So all you gotta do 382 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: is fucking try something. Man, it might not work. You 383 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: might get to you might get to Paris and be 384 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: looking at the Eiffel Tower and go. You know, it's 385 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of it's actually kind of lame, small and life 386 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: is meaningless. But unless you but at least you you 387 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: push yourself far enough to figure out that that wasn't 388 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: the answer, you know, that'll feel good you exactly. So, 389 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: I just I can't. I you know, I hope, I hope. 390 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: I hope that this got through to you in some 391 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: meaningful way. Thanks for sharing all the stuff with me, Dylan. 392 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: I really hope that you find so you find some 393 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of meaning in your in your life. 394 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: It's really cool. I'll pop in the chat after my 395 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: trip when I make it happen. 396 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: Dude, please please please do please, dear God, please dear God. 397 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: If you, if you're if you do do this, which 398 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I hope you do, give me some kind of follow up, 399 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: and whether it's in the chat or in one of 400 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: my in one, in an email episode or something like that, 401 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that you don't know when. Oh well, 402 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: let me you h we don't know when? When is there. 403 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: What are you waiting for? 404 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, I guess i'd have to just you know, make 405 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: the plan and set it up and do the travel. 406 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you have to take time off work? 407 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I take some time off the work, you know. 408 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: All right? Do you have any oh you run a 409 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any pt O left this year? 410 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do? Yeah? 411 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: All right, fucking do that ship, dude, God damn, do 412 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: it and then let me know how I went. 413 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to I'm gonna go to Paris. 414 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know for how long. A couple of days. 415 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: I won't just have dinner. 416 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, that was terrible. 417 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: I don't know why I think that it wouldn't be. 418 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: It'd be if I. 419 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: Mean, if your goal is, if your goal is for 420 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: it to be funny. Yes, it was funny, but I 421 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: don't think this is what you want to do. Yeah, 422 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: go and walk around and just look at just go 423 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: and just just go and stand there and see if 424 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: it feels fucking any difference at all. 425 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 426 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: I don't know why I think the idea of telling somebody, oh, 427 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: I had dinner in France yesterday and just be like what. 428 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: You know what? 429 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: You know what? 430 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: You know what maybe you know what you know what 431 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: you know what? Maybe that really is all you need. 432 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you do. Maybe I actually take back everything. I 433 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: actually take everything I said about your going there to 434 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: eat lunch and coming and METI to the back idea. 435 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: I take it back. I actually don't think it's a 436 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: stupid idea. I actually think if you did that it 437 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: would accomplish the same as if you went for four days. 438 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: It's just again, it's just comes back to the fact 439 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: that you took some form of action to try and 440 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: deal with this. So maybe maybe you do do that. 441 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I take back what I said. Well, 442 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: whatever you do, let me let me send therapy Gecko 443 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: mail at gmail dot com. Send me an email. Uh 444 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: if you if you have an update on this, I'm 445 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: very curious about it. Uh, Dylan, is there anything else 446 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer 447 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: before we go? 448 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: Not at all. Just keep trying and and you know, 449 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: tell yourself a better story in your head. 450 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like I'm gonna 451 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: try to I'm gonna try to take some of the 452 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: fucking advice that I talk about on this plane. This 453 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: is why I I'm sorry to end this on the rap. 454 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: But I tell everything I say to callers on this 455 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: podcast is just me trying to convince myself of things. 456 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: So you know that thanks for that man, you have 457 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: a going Dylan. 458 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: You two get thank you. 459 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: It is funny the idea of him going, and I 460 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: had to look back. I had to be like, well, 461 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: why do I think that's a stupid idea? I still do. 462 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: I still kind of do think it's a stupid idea. 463 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: But again, the core is that he tried, he went 464 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: and did something maybe that could make him Just the 465 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: core I think the idea behind obviously you know, we 466 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: all know that, like and I've had this same conversation 467 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: with people on this podcast with obviously, like a travel 468 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: and going to new places isn't in and of itself, 469 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: is not going to like change make you happy, Like 470 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I well, okay, in this case scenario, it's 471 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: just like if he hadn't done it forever and he 472 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: tried something he was uncomfortable with in an effort to 473 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: find more meaning to his life. I think this was 474 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: actually something to that that could be kind of powerful 475 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: about that, And you could achieve that by literally going 476 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: to France for dinner and then coming right home. But 477 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: it is a waste of money. Why would you do that? Hello? 478 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: Can you hear me? 479 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Okay? 480 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi? What's your name? 481 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: Mercy? 482 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Marcie? What's up? Marci? 483 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: What? 484 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: Uh? 485 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: How? 486 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: What? What brings you to want to talk on the 487 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: Therapy iCal podcast today? 488 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 4: Well, I've actually wanted to talk to you for a 489 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: long time. Cool, a little nervous, but otherwise I'm good. Sorry, 490 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: I was just feeding my cat's got a little out 491 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: of breath because I'm fair. 492 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no worries, no worries. 493 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: I actually wanted to talk a little bit about, uh, 494 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: like something positive that's going on in my tumultuous world. 495 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, let me hear it. 496 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, going through a few, you know, pretty big 497 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: hardships between my husband and I, but he and I 498 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: are like stronger than we've ever been. Ohay, yeah, and 499 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: it feels really great. It was one of those like 500 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: I'm high in the shower thoughts that kind of piqued 501 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: my interest yesterday because we were just we've just been 502 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: going through it and with our families and just catastrophes 503 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: you know, here and there, and we live in Florida, 504 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: so we also deal with you know, so. 505 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you guys get hit Did you guys get 506 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: hit by by Hurricane big Boy? 507 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: No, thankfully, we've actually made it been really really lucky 508 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: the last couple of years. Our area is kind of 509 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 4: isolated and off to the side, like we live. I 510 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: don't want to say exactly where, but we live very 511 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: close to Jacksonville, and we just somehow have totally been 512 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: missed by at least two of the hurricanes. And then 513 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: we got like you know, extreme outer bands and a 514 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: lot of like flooding and stuff where we live. But 515 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: other than that, we got really really lucky. It was 516 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: all of them this year. 517 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: How long have you and your husband been together. 518 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: We just celebrated our fifth anniversary in September five. 519 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: Five. 520 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Yep, that's cool. That's cool. And so you said, you 521 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: said you have been through it tumultuous times, but you're 522 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: stronger than ever. 523 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: Stronger than ever. Like even even when we fight, which 524 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: is very rare, we always come out like learning something 525 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: new about one another, as if we Sometimes I feel 526 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: like we're just meeting each other for the first time 527 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: over and over and over again, and it feels really 528 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: cool because you know, he and I were a pretty homebody. 529 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: You know, we don't do a whole lot, We don't 530 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: have a whole lot of friends outside of our jobs 531 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: because we were kind of we work a lot, and 532 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: we're kind of isolated. We live away from his family, 533 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: which sucks. So on on all sides, we're just going 534 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: through it. But like everything else between him and I 535 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 4: is just like we just feel like we can take 536 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: on the whole world together and fuck everybody else. 537 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Uh that's that's uh, that's so beautiful. That's that is 538 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: that's like an incredibly uh valuable one could say rare 539 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: one could say a rare valuable thing to have in 540 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: your life. Uh. 541 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, particularly how you know, before we met, in like 542 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: our past relationships, they were pretty bad. And you know, 543 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: when you're we're kind of both kind of empathed, so 544 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: we end up taking a lot on from other people. 545 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: And so in those relationships, we had a lot of 546 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: people that were like taking from us and never giving 547 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: in return. But we're just those type of people who 548 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 4: are just like, Okay, well if we keep giving, you know, 549 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: maybe the person will give back. 550 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: Can you ask, can how old you guys are? I'm 551 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: just curious where you're at in your life journey? 552 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: So I am thirty three cool and he is thirty 553 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: seven cool. 554 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: That's cool. I'm I'm about to turn twenty seven, and 555 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: I keep I don't know why, I'm always thinking. I'm 556 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: always thinking about what my life is going to be 557 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: like in like ten years, and I'm kind of obsessed 558 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: with I'm kind of obsessed with the idea that, like 559 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: I could my life could be like really awesome when 560 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm like thirty seven, like very different, weird. It's cool 561 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: to just imagine like different. They can think about how 562 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: radically different your life was ten years ago and you're like, 563 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: oh shit, my lift you radically different ten years from now. 564 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: I think about it. What is you said you wanted 565 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: to specifically talk about something positive? What was the specific 566 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: positive thing you wanted to you wanted to share? 567 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: Well, I guess that really was the positive thing. It's 568 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: just because we have so many negative things going on, 569 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: it just feels like at least my at least my 570 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 4: relationship is you know, on a forward path and feels 571 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: like it's it feels like it's genuine, you know, I never, 572 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: I very rarely feel unseen by him and being that 573 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: And I'm going to go with this A tiny tangent. 574 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 4: He and I both have late diagnosed ADHD, like pretty 575 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 4: pretty severe for him, and I have like a my 576 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: attention desk that is definitely. 577 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: Like the issue for me. 578 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 4: But we're both really strong speakers, like him especially he's 579 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: very articulate and he's also bilingual. He's from d R 580 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: and so he's very intelligent person and he's gotten himself 581 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: into conversations with people and made it so that he 582 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: could like enlighten someone. He's very spiritual in that way. 583 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: We're both Buddhists. 584 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: Cool. 585 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, so. 586 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: It's uh, where'd you had you guys be. 587 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: Tender? 588 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: Actually that's cool. 589 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. I like that. I would have thought 590 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: there's because there's like, what's the Christian mingle of Buddhism. 591 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe it could be something like that, 592 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: it's tender? Do you guys? I have I have a 593 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: few questions. I have a few questions for you, just 594 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: because I'm curious, because you sound like you've found a 595 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: thing that's very special and good. So I have questions 596 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: about it. Where did you do you? Guys? Feel like 597 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot of your because you from the way you 598 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: talk about him, it sounds like you're both very like 599 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: spiritually aligned and like worldview. It sounds like you have 600 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot of like aligned values, is yes, And so 601 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious when you two first met, do you feel 602 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: like you came into the relationship both independently possessing those 603 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: values on which you're aligned, or do you feel like 604 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: the the alignment developed over the course of of the relationship. 605 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 4: So both yes and yes. So the way we met 606 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: regardless of Tender. So we started on the app. Of course, 607 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 4: you know, talked on the app for a few days 608 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 4: and it was just, you know, just surface level shit 609 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 4: like I like Star Wars, you like Star Wars, blah 610 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: blah blah, that kind of bullshit. And then by the 611 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: towards the end of the week, he asked if he 612 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 4: could call me. And if you know anything about tender, 613 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: that's pretty rare that anyone actually wants to call you. 614 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a good idea because it's 615 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: you can really get gauged so much more about a 616 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: person by talking to them on the phone than you 617 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: can't over the right. 618 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: Next accurate number one number one, making sure they're a 619 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 4: real person, right and then and then hopefully end up 620 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: not being a serial killer or whatever. But so I 621 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: was like, sure, you know, I get off at five, 622 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 4: call me at five thirty. 623 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: I should be. 624 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 4: Getting home around then, and I have twenty nine twenty 625 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 4: or nine fifty nine whatever on the dot. He was 626 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: calling me, and I was just like trying to get 627 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: into my uh, into my room with all my ship 628 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 4: in my hands. So I was like, oh, prompt, boy, 629 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: and then we proceeded to have a conversation for seven 630 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 4: and a half hours. Yeah, we just talked the whole 631 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 4: time and talked about our lives, talked about our you know, 632 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 4: things that we liked and things that they disliked. At 633 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 4: the time, I was very involved with politics. I was 634 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 4: a sitting chair for the Libertarian Party of Semuel County 635 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 4: and I was very involved with stuff like that. And 636 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 4: I was working for real estate company and basically running 637 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 4: the office on my own and he, unfortunately at the time, 638 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 4: was in between in between jobs. But but he was 639 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 4: like on the way to getting a job and we 640 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 4: just clicked like overnight, and I felt like I knew 641 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: him better than I knew like the last boyfriend I 642 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 4: had before and. 643 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: Within so I'm really, really, really really uh, that's a 644 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: fascinating fascinating story. I'm really curious about your take on something. 645 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: This is something I really think about a lot in 646 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: you know, my personal life. You know, when I've been 647 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: like dating, and I was actually talking a lot about 648 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: my friends a lot about this with my friend last night. 649 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, do you do you think two people? 650 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 651 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: In my head, there's and it doesn't actually one or 652 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: the other, but there's kind of like two schools of 653 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: thought you could say, with relationships, where it's like you 654 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: either kind of pick some one, you catch a wave 655 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: of some kind like your two people meet, they decide 656 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: to make it work, and then kind of gradually over 657 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: time they develop their relationship with each other and they 658 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: their love for each other kind of becomes deeper, versus 659 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of the other school of thought, which is like 660 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: you get lucky or you search really really really hard 661 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: and really really really intentionally until you find that person 662 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: with whom you just kind of immediately feel like you 663 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: click and like you, as you just said, know them 664 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: almost pretty soon, pretty immediately, you feel like you know 665 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: them almost as well as you know somebody that you 666 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: did the whole other dance with for many years, you know, 667 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: And I think it seems like it's kind of on 668 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: the The answer lies somewhere between those two schools of thought. 669 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: But I'm curious about your perspective because the way that 670 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like things worked out for you and this 671 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: guy is that you felt it so immediately that you 672 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: had this this seven hour connection with each other. 673 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I knew the actual answer, but I 674 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 4: definitely think it does. It's somewhere in between. You know, 675 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 4: it's luck definitely, because I mean, like I said, I 676 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: met him on Tinder, so I'm basically just you know, 677 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 4: rolling the dice there totally. But you know, I also 678 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 4: believe that, you know, I'm not like totally four soulmates, 679 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 4: but I also kind of am and and he is 680 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 4: just one of those people that I feel like, you know, 681 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 4: if I hadn't. 682 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 2: Passed life, he was there. 683 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 4: You know, I felt like he was in my life, 684 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 4: my whole life. Like we were just kind of talking 685 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 4: about that last night, where we both kind of feel like, 686 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 4: you know, if we had met a long time ago, 687 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 4: like in our you know, high school years, that we 688 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 4: would have been like obsessed with one another back then. 689 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, probably wouldn't have been fun for 690 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 4: our friends because we would have never had friends. 691 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting. Well, so that's so interesting too because you 692 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: say that you two would have been obsessed with each 693 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: other in high school? Do you think that? I mean, 694 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: and you're both in your thirties and there's a lot 695 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: of change that happens between eighteen to thirty. And because 696 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: there's another like kind of also like in when I'm 697 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: like thinking about the schools of thought of how two 698 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: people come to form a strong relationship, is like, do 699 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: you ever feel like two people? Maybe if two people, 700 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: you kind of have to become not a different person, 701 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: but maybe like like a better version of yourself in 702 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: order to truly be there and the way that you 703 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,479 Speaker 1: need to be there for the person that you're with. 704 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: And it takes a long time to kind of to 705 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: I guess become that version of yourself. 706 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 707 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think it's important that those two people 708 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 4: have you know, like common interests for sure, common values. 709 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean the biggest one for us is, 710 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 4: you know, we we grew up you know, metal heads. 711 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 4: You know, I grew up in Las Vegas and he 712 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 4: grew up in d r and then in Orlando when 713 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 4: he came to the States, and we both were like 714 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 4: goths and you know, stupid, but also we had fun. 715 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 4: But you know, we've gone to metal shows together, We've 716 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 4: gone to electronics shows together. 717 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: We really love music. 718 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 4: We both play music. I sing, I love dancing. Like 719 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 4: we were really into music in general, and that for 720 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 4: me is huge. That's been a that's been a key 721 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 4: factor in most of my relationships in general. Like if 722 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 4: we don't have music at common, then I can't hang 723 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 4: out with you. 724 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 3: That much. 725 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: So what's, uh, what's what's next for your guys's uh lives? 726 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: Are you gonna you think getting married? Do you think 727 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: it about going to moving to Portugal? What's uh? What's happening? 728 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: Uh? 729 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 4: No, So we're we've been trying to have a baby 730 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 4: for a couple of years. We've unfortunately had a couple 731 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 4: of failures, but in one kind of recent which is 732 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 4: one of the tumultuous things that has been going on. 733 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 4: But that but we are that's okay, We're getting through it, 734 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 4: and that's that's the next step. We're actually getting ready 735 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: to move in with my family because we're you know, 736 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 4: we're trying to combine bills and we've got older. My 737 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 4: my grandmother's getting older, and my mom's getting older and 738 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 4: everybody just kind of needs to be together. So that's 739 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 4: also a very is going to happen this month. 740 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, are both of are both of you very 741 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: like family oriented, like you're like his his family is 742 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: your family, your family. His family kind of vibes absolutely. 743 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 4: I love his family, he loves my family. We all 744 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 4: get along great and and his family so much so 745 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 4: different from mine, but also not because they're we're all 746 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: just very loving families, which is it's a blessing. 747 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: And how do you feel as though you got you guys? 748 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: Your families are different? 749 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 4: Well, his his are all Dominican and uh and mine 750 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 4: are I only live know my like white side of 751 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 4: my family, my my Irish side, but I'm half Mexican 752 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 4: as well. But and I grew up in Las Vegas, 753 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 4: so you know, I grew up with Mexican origin around 754 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 4: me all the time. But I grew up with my 755 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: Irish family and uh, so it's definitely different dynamic, Like 756 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 4: you know, when we go to holidays and stuff like that, 757 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 4: Like his family they do uh karaoke and they dance 758 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 4: and they make big meals and there's everybody shouting and 759 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: having a wonderful time and. 760 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: Then at my my house, it's a little. 761 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 4: More calm, you know, it's a little more uh reserved, 762 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 4: I guess, but it's still loving and like kids are 763 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 4: running around and you know, we're kind of a white 764 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 4: trash family too, so it's it all kind of is 765 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 4: the same for us. It's just love everywhere. 766 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's really that's nice. I'm very I'm uh, 767 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm touched by you, guys, I really am. This is uh, 768 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: that's cool. I think I do think that a good 769 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: life probably has a lot of other people in it. 770 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well. 771 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: This is all good. 772 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 4: We've been talking for a long time. 773 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: They're all good things. I'm trying to think if if 774 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: I have any of the question, is there anything else 775 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: that you wanted to to talk about? 776 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 4: No, I think we probably should give someone else. 777 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,479 Speaker 3: A chance to talk. 778 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: What's your name is, Mercy? 779 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 4: Mercy Mercy. 780 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: Uh, I'm very happy for you, uh, Mercy, I'm glad 781 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: that you It's kind of cool. Well, because a lot 782 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: of people, I'm sure. First of all, this is this 783 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: is all this whole phone call has been sponsored by Tinder. 784 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: They paid this caller to call in and talk about 785 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: her experience. No, that's not true at all, but it does. 786 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: This is a good This is an advert to because 787 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: a lot of people are getting fed up with uh 788 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: dating apps. But it's like sometimes sometimes sometimes if you're 789 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: patient enough, I feel like you just you get lucky. 790 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's definitely not what it used 791 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 4: to be. And and I was. It was my last 792 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 4: ditch effort at the time. So what can you do? 793 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 3: It worked out? 794 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: Uh, Mercy is or anything else you want to say before. 795 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 4: We go, Nope, thank you for your time and I 796 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 4: really appreciated your conversation. 797 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Mercy. I have a good rest 798 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: of the night. 799 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: You too. 800 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 4: Bye bye. 801 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: Well that was that was nice. See see you guys. 802 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: Well you gotta do. You just gotta keep trying. Maybe hopefully, 803 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: maybe you'll get lucky and you'll meet you'll meet somebody 804 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: who you have a you call them and you guys 805 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: have a seven hour conversation. That's cool. There's hope. I 806 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: feel there's hope out there that fall in love and 807 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: not and to look at stuff and eat food, and 808 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: uh yeah, this is hope. This is hope. But I think, 809 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: oh god, I feel I'm trying to like if I've 810 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: been speaking, I've said this a bunch of times already. 811 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: But if I've been speaking too sincerely for too long, 812 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: I'll really want to think of something stupid to say. 813 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 1: But I couldn't think of anything that was remotely funny. 814 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: So I just had to put a period at the 815 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: end of my sincerity, which is which is fine, which 816 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: is fine. 817 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, how are you doing well? 818 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: Hello? How are you doing sir? What's your name? 819 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: My name is Griffin? 820 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: Griffin? What can I what can I do you for 821 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: this evening? What's going on? 822 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: Well? 823 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 3: I I was curious if if you were or anyone, 824 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, maybe it has had any sort of like 825 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 3: uh weird, I guess uncommon uh like health issues. 826 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 827 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 3: That like that that aren't common. I myself have had 828 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 3: scarlet fever. 829 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's like from the eighteen hundreds, right, I didn't 830 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: know that was still a thing. 831 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, until the doctor told me that's what I had. 832 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: I have the other the other day, my asshole was bleeding, 833 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: which to me feels like a very twenty twenty four illness. 834 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually uh yeah, they didn't start doing that 835 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 3: until I think this year. 836 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 837 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very gen z thing to have a 838 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: to have a bleed, asshole? How did you get scarlet fever? 839 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 3: So, I mean this is years and years ago, but 840 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 3: I like through middle and high school. I'm thirty one now, 841 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 3: but I got strapped throughout like I countless times, like 842 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 3: over and over and over again. Apparently I was really 843 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 3: prone to getting it, and I guess one of the 844 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 3: times it ended up going dormant. So I felt fine 845 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 3: and I wasn't showing any symptoms of anything, and then 846 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: I started getting like rash all over my body and 847 00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: just like feeling miserable and had no idea what it 848 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 3: was from. Yeah, apparently the whatever the like virus of 849 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 3: that causes strep throat, I guess had gone dormant and 850 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 3: turned itself into scarlet fever. Uh. The funny, the funniest 851 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 3: part is that you brought up assholes. Actually, uh because 852 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 3: they they they swabbed my throat like they do for 853 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 3: strep throat, and it came up negative and I was like, well, 854 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 3: like one of like one of the main places that 855 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 3: I have this rash, it is like it is on 856 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 3: my ass, and so they swabbed that and then that's 857 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 3: when it came up positive. 858 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: So how many you when's the last time somebody had 859 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: scarlet fever in America. Are you like the only guy 860 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: who has it now? Or like, what's the deal with this? 861 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea. I mean I've never even 862 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 3: looked it up. That's why I was like curious, like, 863 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 3: you know, I could I I have no idea. 864 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: I thought like, wait, wait, wait, wait you haven't you 865 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: haven't looked it up? 866 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 3: How many people have had it? 867 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: Or like, have you like looked into it? 868 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, well I had it years ago. I mean 869 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 3: I looked into it after that, but it's. 870 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 1: Been a while. Scarlet fever, Okay, there are a few there. 871 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: Scarlet fever is very Scarlet fever says, according to Google, 872 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: is very rare. There are fewer than twenty thousand US 873 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: cases per year. But it does say that it resolves 874 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: within days two weeks. 875 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it wasn't. Uh yeah, once they 876 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 3: gave once they realized I had it, I mean I was. 877 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: I was good after that. 878 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: But I'm going to look it up on Wikipedia see 879 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: scarlet fever Wikipedia. When did it start? Who invented it? 880 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: When did it start? 881 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 2: Oh? 882 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 1: Is this a lady with a weird tone? Oh? This 883 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: is I'm never you know what? Never look up disease 884 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. You won't like what you Oh wait, okay, 885 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: hold on, I'm on the Wikipedia page for scarlet fever. 886 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: On history. Under history it says the dick test. Did 887 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: you know there's a dick? This is real. If you 888 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: go to the scarlet fever Wikipedia page and go to history, 889 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: it's there's a there's a it says the dick test. Okay. 890 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: The dick test, developed in nineteen twenty four by George 891 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: and Gladdie's Dick, was used to identify those susceptible to 892 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: scarlet fever. The dick test involved injecting a diluted strain 893 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: of the streptinoch known to cause scarlet fever, and if 894 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: no reaction was seen in the skin. Have you have 895 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: you tried in injecting yourself with a diluted strain of streptinok. 896 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 3: Uh No, I can't say that I have. I have 897 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 3: not tried that. 898 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: Now, well, you should try the dick test, dude, I 899 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: don't know if that's what you're doctor did on Yeah. 900 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 3: Well, they brought a bunch of Griffin. 901 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Griffin finished. I wanted to finish what you're 902 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna say. 903 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 3: They brought a bunch of like nurses and doctors uh 904 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 3: in uh because none of them had ever seen it. 905 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 3: And I remember the doctor was like, you might not 906 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 3: ever be someone that had this again. And they were 907 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 3: all like examining my body. It was a very weird experience. 908 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, the good news about having an old disease is 909 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,919 Speaker 1: that they figured out how to cure it by now, 910 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: and you and you and you were able to get 911 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: through it all without having to take the Dick test. 912 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 3: Correct. I might be sterile because of it, though, That's 913 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 3: what they told me. 914 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 915 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 916 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 3: Uh, go to your doctors, get things checked out if 917 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 3: you're if you have symptoms of anything. I guess I 918 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 3: don't know. 919 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: See you later, Griffin have on? Did you say his 920 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: name was Griffin or Griffith? Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. 921 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: That's the end of this episode. But get this, I'm 922 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: releasing a bonus episode this week. 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