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Speaker 1: But if everyone, um to some degree is stepping out

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Speaker 1: their their journey there for a lot of people would

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Speaker 1: be enough to say, you know what, that's okay with me.

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Speaker 1: else can uh can worry about running this this show, right, um.

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Speaker 1: But they persevered through those things and the other thing

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Speaker 1: that we've that we've UM we featured, they're all still

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Speaker 1: in the learning process. Nobody has got all the answers.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that is a way that really

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Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial journey for people. That I hope that people

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Speaker 1: are able to see themselves UM in people right. They're

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Speaker 1: able to identifying that, hey, this is this is just

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Speaker 1: a person just like me UM who was able to

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Speaker 1: their dreams of life. Here's the interesting to Jonathan, because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read a quote from an article that you had.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll learn about their stories about self imployed.

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Speaker 1: We'll learn about their stories and learn about where they

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Speaker 1: and understanding how they've had to adapt and pivot, which

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Speaker 1: is important because we all pivoted during the COVID Around

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Speaker 1: us is an opportunity to share a light on what

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Speaker 1: it looks like for someone to take that idea and

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Speaker 1: cultivate that idea enter their dream and their dream work

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Speaker 1: life of being self imployed. I wish I want to

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Speaker 1: say that quote first of a pretty profound quote, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I had an opportunity to read it during

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Speaker 1: our interview. Is that I look at myself and and

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Speaker 1: and like you said, some people are just w two people,

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Speaker 1: which means they will they will working for the hour

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Speaker 1: don't want to they want to skip steps, you know,

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Speaker 1: But because of technology, have you seen an age difference

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Speaker 1: out there when you've done your show? Is it or

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Speaker 1: it's just you've just been just out there and everybody

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Speaker 1: wants to be successful because I know it's as entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 1: the female industry that the women have really become a

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Speaker 1: dominant force as entrepreneurs, and also blacks have stepped up

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Speaker 1: their game as entrepreneurs. Tell us what you're seeing out

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Speaker 1: there while you're doing the show. I know you're not

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Speaker 1: this different conversation because you've have been everywhere all of

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Speaker 1: this kind of talk about what you're seeing now? Well, um,

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Speaker 1: And again I just hope that again people are able

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Speaker 1: whether that be people of color, UM being able to

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Speaker 1: I do think that you know, over these next few years,

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Speaker 1: catalyst for it is more and more people UM stepping

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Speaker 1: out and and pursuing their dreams, taking those those those

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Speaker 1: dreams from ideas to to reality. And that's true. Technology.

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Speaker 1: Technology has been a different game changer for so many

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Speaker 1: people to pursue their dreams. But also the reality is

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Speaker 1: that the pandemic has made everybody to see that there

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Speaker 1: is a finite opportunity. There's a window. If you don't

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Speaker 1: take that window, if you're not happy with the wind

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Speaker 1: are you looking through, then you can change it and

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Speaker 1: you can change about putting forth a plan, rules in

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Speaker 1: plays and winning with that. What is your bigger takeaway?

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Speaker 1: Because the beauty of me and I want to maintain

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Speaker 1: a friendship with you, Jonathan, and because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're so engaging and you you you you say

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Speaker 1: well know, I said, I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: I get the phone call they say, hey, man, we

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Speaker 1: walks through, he sees an opportunity, he grabs it, and

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Speaker 1: And I want to let everybody know that's why he's

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Speaker 1: people say, I'm in the restaurant business, that's all I'm

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Speaker 1: What drives that level of confidence to diversify and trust

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Speaker 1: your talents? A couple of things. Number One. One thing

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Speaker 1: I do a lot is it is just for me.

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Speaker 1: I write down I did every day. Some of them

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Speaker 1: And but and that's that's just that's just kind of

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Speaker 1: That that works for me. Writing down ideas, UM, writing

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Speaker 1: got dollars attached to it. But I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: relationship that we have fostered for years running to what

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm a big believer in and

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Speaker 1: which is really key because of the most proud thing

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00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: I like to talk about these An HBCU Grab. He's

642
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: a alarm. He's out there and the HBC's are getting

643
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: so much notoriety nowadays, and it's great to see that

644
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: we're not just UH because a lot of people look

645
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: at hbcs and you have a perception about the band

646
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: a halftime and all the sports. It's really bigger than that.

647
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about his experience and his

648
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: proud background of relationship that he has with with with

649
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: HBC used. But here's the producer of the first professional

650
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: tenement tennis tournament produced by the African American Excess Tennis

651
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Village in Washington Park is a sixteen point nine million

652
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: dollar Black owned and operated tennis facility. Is one of

653
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: the largest indoor and outdoor tennis facilities in the United States.

654
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Murder see a tennis scholarship I said earlier Florida A

655
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: and m UH proceidiously known as fam Mute, where he

656
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: also served as a graduate assistant coach. HBC graduates only

657
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: the third African American coach to approach to coach a

658
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Grand Slam champion. We're trying to show to talk about

659
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: his programs, UH, what he's doing. His future is gonna

660
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: be like about the state of tennis not only for

661
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: African Americans, but just tennis in general. This weekend that

662
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the years open, we saw it got really young, but

663
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: we also saw a lot of great talent. That is

664
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: like when we talked about Coco Golf, Sloan Stevens, so

665
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: a person he coaching. He's coached. So welcome to money

666
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: making conversation. I'm calling my friend because he knows a

667
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: lot of people I know, come out, Murry, where would

668
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: this show come out? Thank you for having me. Glad

669
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: to be here. Well, you know made uh you know tennis.

670
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: You know when you talk about black people in tennis,

671
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: you know you're all the way back to the author asked,

672
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: and if you go even further author Gibson, and then continued,

673
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: then the Williams sisters have dominated it and it's kind

674
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: of made like, uh that the blacks have really started

675
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: populating the game, But really it still is a game

676
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: where blacks are still trying to find their way on

677
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: the tennis court. Am I right? And making that accession

678
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: that that that statement, Yeah, I mean we don't have

679
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the generational lineage, uh that you know white people do, right,

680
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, I think that you know a lot of

681
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: a lot of the reasons why some of these kids

682
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: make it as their parents played in college and their

683
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: parents parents played in college, so you know, after there

684
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: is a total trial and error game in terms of

685
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: trying to make a professional tennis player, and very few

686
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: parents get it right the first time. And so the

687
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: kid that doesn't make it right whose parents groomed them,

688
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: their kids perhaps might make it because now they don't

689
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: have to search around and they know, hey, at this age,

690
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: you go to this person. At this age, you go

691
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: to this person. Then you go play this tournament. So

692
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know what why you know why people

693
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: have more uh lineage in the game because they've just

694
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: been doing it long. You know, back in the day, uh,

695
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, black people and Jewish people were not allowed

696
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: to join tennis clubs and so um, you know, Jewish

697
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: people had the wherewith all to create their own tennis club.

698
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: So you have clubs like York Rackets in Toronto or

699
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: Hill Crest out in l A. But black people did

700
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: not have that same opportunity. You know, we may have

701
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: taken over park and called it the club, but if

702
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: it's a part and no indoor opportunity, so I think

703
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: that we're playing catch up as it relates to um,

704
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, black tennis players who have played in college

705
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: now having kids and now knowing the road. And so

706
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: once we start, once those kids kind of come of age,

707
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see the last gape of tends to

708
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: be a lot more colorful. You know my daughter, you

709
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: know who, I love her to death. You know she

710
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: started she picked up a record when she was six

711
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: years old and so basically getting played it because she

712
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: was eighteen years of agent. She blew out on the

713
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: A C L injury and I saw that process. That process'

714
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: is a you know, it's a very um I want

715
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: to say, it's a it's it's you know, you're out

716
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: there with a coach, a lodge. You get up a

717
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: lot of your personal life to be what is it

718
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: when you look at it? Because you did the same thing.

719
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: This is your story too, because you know the amount

720
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: of time you have to put in on that court

721
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes the social life is not going to be

722
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: part of that. But you were blessed, I would say,

723
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: because you got to go to college. A lot of

724
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: these kids don't go to college, and so life kind

725
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: of stops for them. From an entertainment perspective, on the tour.

726
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: That's their world. And so talk about you as a

727
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: youngster getting into tennis and how important it was for

728
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: you to gain some type of social behavior when you

729
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: went to family. Yeah, you know, I think that the

730
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: individual nature of the sport caused the tennis players to

731
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: be a little bit behind socially, not as comfortable being

732
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: around people. Has been a lot more time in isolation

733
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: or just in the car with their parents, driving you know,

734
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: to and from the tenants court for hours. And so,

735
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean it is a fact that tennis players are

736
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: are developed slower on a social aspect compared to you know, basketball,

737
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: football players who spend so much time with each other. Um.

738
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: But I you know, I think that you know, obviously

739
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to go to college. Um, you know,

740
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: allow me to definitely gain some social skills, but it

741
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: all goes over the cost. You know. I didn't want

742
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: to play protenants, you know. Um, I would not say

743
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: that if I had the opportunity to play protendants and

744
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: seven teen years old, that going to college just to

745
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: get socialized would have been a good thing. I would

746
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: have gone and taking out opportunity. I didn't really want

747
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: to play pro tennis. Wasn't good enough, wasn't interested, didn't

748
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: have the lineage or to know how. Um, but I

749
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: do think that having been a good tennis player, uh,

750
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: and been very cerebral and and prep and mentally present

751
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: during the entire process. When you combine that with my

752
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: HBC experience and going to college, getting educated, getting a

753
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: master's degree, getting socialized, that did allow me to enter

754
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: the professional tennis or Berck right. I mean it is

755
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: like the most closest knick club you can have. Um.

756
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: It allowed me to enter it with a sense of confidence. Um.

757
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, so I would say it was definitely going

758
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: to college having had the experience of being a good

759
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: player help me now, you know, now you have to

760
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: come out you kind of like you know, you said

761
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I didn't want to do pro. I didn't

762
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: have the skill set for being pro. But then you

763
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: got a scholarship. So somebody saw something talent did you

764
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, and and it took you to the state

765
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: of Florida. And so but how did you get come out?

766
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: How did you get involved with tennis? How did what

767
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: age that you started? Who? Why did he become a

768
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: love for you? Because this is what you do now

769
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: is a passion. Yeah, so I would say it wasn't

770
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: necessarily a love all the time. You know, my my brother,

771
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: my older brother played you know, big time basketball. He's

772
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: like six nine to sixty now, but he Uh, my

773
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: parents took his as his a U team to Africa. Uh,

774
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: and we came back in the middle of the summer,

775
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: and all the tennis clamps, all the tenis camps were closed.

776
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: All the camps are closed in my neighborhood and only

777
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: camp that was still accepting enrollment was a tennis camp

778
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: because they basically had three people enrolled in it because

779
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: nobody in my neighborhood wanted to uh. And so you know,

780
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: I I stumbled upon the game. My godfather, Reggie was

781
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: a tennis player, and he said, hey, you need somewhere

782
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: to babysit. Com out, go ahead and take them just

783
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: on his park on eighty seven. And Jeffrey and my

784
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: mom took me there, really just hoping to be able

785
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: to drop me off and get some cheap babysitting, right. Um.

786
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: You know, so it's it just uh, it just happened

787
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: that way. And then you know, even then, I you know,

788
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: didn't love it. You know, I was leaving my tennis

789
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: racket and the gardeners can at the courts because I

790
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: was my daughter to wrap transportation, you know what I mean,

791
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: So I I it was. It was like a walk

792
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: of shame almost home from the tennis court for a

793
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: long time, until I started to get decent. I had

794
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: some success and had a sense of pride for myself.

795
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you know you're right about you know, socially,

796
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you know you are behind your skill set. I was

797
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: telling to my work the worse she coun eventually catch up,

798
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: I said, when she goes to college and starts meaning

799
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: with people. Because you're out there by yourself from a standpoint,

800
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: but what you do get you do mature faster from

801
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: a standpoint. If that's what you want, you have to

802
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: work hard for You have to be disciplined, You have

803
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: to arrive at a certain times, you have to put

804
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: in a certain amount of hours. So it does prepare

805
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: you for life. So when you open your tennis village,

806
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, everybody's not gonna be a

807
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: Venus Williams or Serena Williams, or or anybody else who

808
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: has a high skill level of the current pro what

809
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: is the purpose of opening up your tennis academy or

810
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: the exx tennis village. So you know, when I was

811
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: growing up, after that summer when I started playing tennis,

812
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: I found a free program at the High Park Racquetball

813
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: Club and um, you know, in that environment, I was

814
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: like the black mecca of tennis in Chicago. You're the

815
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: only black's club in Chicago. It was black professionals, doctors, lawyers.

816
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: Um it was you know, when I have to ask

817
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: came to town, he always stopped by there. That's where

818
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: I met first Magazini Garrison, like it was the place

819
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: uh Katrina Adams learned to play there Donald young. So

820
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: it was like a black mecca and I went there

821
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: every day after school just for the free tennis program

822
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: and the convenient babysitting for my mother. Um. But that

823
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: environment where you see black people, uh just sort of

824
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: they're congregating around the game tennis, basketball in the gym,

825
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: drinking smoothies and wine. You know. You know that helped

826
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: me as a student. That kept me off the street,

827
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: right And you know, I can't tell you the number

828
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: of times that I would be leaving out the club,

829
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: walking to the bus stop to try to get a

830
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: right to take the bus home and a and a

831
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: and an adult would give me a ride in it's Cadillac,

832
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so that environment where

833
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: it was, um wasn't forrest mentorship, but it was just

834
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: a the kids isn't here belong to us. We're gonna

835
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: make sure we practice with them, spar with them, helping

836
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: with their homework. I used to sit down on my

837
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: knees and do my homework on the bench, right, and

838
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: will come over, Hey, what you're doing. Let me help

839
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: you with that math problem whatever it is, right, And

840
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: it was totally authentic and not forced. And so, uh,

841
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: my old was to create that same environment. So we

842
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: built the facility literally a mile west of that facility. Um,

843
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: we got classrooms so the kids don't have to sit

844
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: on their knees and do homework on the floor. Um,

845
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: we've got adults in the building who have worked with

846
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: all who have the opportunity to, you know, you know,

847
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: very just unintendedly, you know, meet with kids and get

848
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: to know these kids so that when they do grow

849
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: older and get the intern you need internship, they have

850
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: some sort of barometer there. So that was the goal,

851
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: was just to recreate the environment that I think kept

852
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 1: me alive. I mean, I grew up on the South

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Speaker 1: being in the position where you got mentors, You've got

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Speaker 1: people who kept you straight. I always tell people about myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, I come from the inner city in and

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Speaker 1: you know, people kept me. I'm sitting here because people

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Speaker 1: guided me in the right direction. They kept me out

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Speaker 1: who's making a difference in people's lives. You know, you

901
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Speaker 1: serve nearly three thousand students annually through your Tennants, your

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Speaker 1: tennis program, and then you're sending kids to to to

903
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Speaker 1: college through scholarship programs. How does that make you feel?

904
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Speaker 1: You know, because everything starts with the dream. Come out.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm speaking to, Come out Murray. He's

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Speaker 1: the CEO Excess Tennants. You've seen them on the Tennis

907
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Speaker 1: channel as a commentator, but more important, he's a professional

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Speaker 1: tennis coach. You know, you're making a difference, You're changing lives.

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Speaker 1: I created this show, Money Making Conversation to introduce people

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Speaker 1: like you to view, to my viewers and to my

911
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Speaker 1: you have to have a plan and your plan is

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Speaker 1: changing lives. So when you wake up every day, how

914
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Speaker 1: do you feel? Oh man, let me tell you. It's

915
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Speaker 1: hard work. So I'm glad that the buildings built, and

916
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're operating. We've been operating four years.

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Speaker 1: We we started going in two thousand and five. Right then,

918
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Speaker 1: we've got our older facility. We got control of that

919
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. Uh, And we moved in

920
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Speaker 1: this build in seventeen. But it was not easy. Uh

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Speaker 1: And so when I woke up in the morning, I'm exhausted.

922
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Speaker 1: I'm very grateful that we were able to get to

923
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Speaker 1: the finish line, but exhausted because the work never stops. Um.

924
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Speaker 1: But you know, around three or four o'clock when these

925
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Speaker 1: kids started walking in, these parents started dropping their kids off,

926
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Speaker 1: and they are first generation tennis players with no knowledge

927
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: and just a blank canvas. I mean, that makes it

928
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Speaker 1: all worth it. Um. But you know, I'll be I'll

929
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Speaker 1: be honest. You know, it was a lot of times

930
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Speaker 1: in the process where I was like, I got a job,

931
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Speaker 1: I got two degrees, I could do something else. Is

932
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Speaker 1: it worth a fight? You know, it shouldn't be this

933
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Speaker 1: hard to do good? And so uh, it has not

934
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Speaker 1: been like, um, a smooth role. But you know, I

935
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Speaker 1: feel like my South Side roots make make me tough

936
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Speaker 1: enough to power through it so that that I'll be

937
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Speaker 1: honest with you, it's it's uh, it's been a our role.

938
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Speaker 1: But it's good. It's very rewarding, uh to see this,

939
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Speaker 1: you know, everything coming fruition for us to have professional

940
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Speaker 1: tennis terments and stuff here. But you know, the role

941
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Speaker 1: was hard. I mean, I'll tell you, you know, just

942
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to see HBCUs getting the notoriety that they're

943
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Speaker 1: getting now because I would say, if I'm being honest,

944
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Speaker 1: a lot of when I was trying to raise money

945
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Speaker 1: right amongst corporations and amongst the wealthy crowd whom I

946
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Speaker 1: went to Ivy League schools and some of these you know,

947
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Speaker 1: larger institutions, I felt like, on a consistent basis that

948
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Speaker 1: my HBCU degree was a hindrance what I was trying

949
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Speaker 1: to do. It was like, you didn't go to Kellogg

950
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Speaker 1: or Booth, so your family NBA is not really an NBAT.

951
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: You know. I had that feeling, right, and it wasn't

952
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Speaker 1: just my insecurity. It was a real feeling, you know

953
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Speaker 1: what I mean. I think now, you know, supporting HBC

954
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Speaker 1: is believing their potential is a is a fad. But

955
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Speaker 1: you know, four years ago, it wasn't a fat Eight

956
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Speaker 1: years ago, it was I was sitting in the room

957
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Speaker 1: with four or five people that went to Harvard, Yale,

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Speaker 1: doctumun Boom, you know, and so you know it was

959
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Speaker 1: it was it made my life harder, right, Um, there's

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Speaker 1: in terms of proven I had the capacity and the

961
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Speaker 1: intellect to sort of make this happen. We know, come out,

962
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Speaker 1: I think from a standpoint, and you're absolutely correct. And

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Speaker 1: I always tell people that they were a vice president.

964
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harriston. Tell anybody that she went to Howard, they

965
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Speaker 1: would assume she went to Ivy League school because people

966
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Speaker 1: just don't assume that type of academic training can lead

967
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Speaker 1: to somebody being the vice president of the United States.

968
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Speaker 1: But you also were playing in the lane where you

969
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Speaker 1: know there was a rarity. You know, from the standpoint

970
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: of tennis, you know, you can't you don't associate tennis

971
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Speaker 1: with a with a historically black college and university. You

972
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Speaker 1: just don't do that. And so but you do you do.

973
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Speaker 1: From an academic standpoint, we realized that the percent of

974
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Speaker 1: the black doctors and Dennis or who are black con

975
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Speaker 1: from hsbc US. For the percent of the members of

976
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Speaker 1: Congress who are black come from hbcuent of the STEM

977
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Speaker 1: graduates who are black con from hbc USED. You know,

978
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Speaker 1: North Carolina Adan t graduating more black engineers either white

979
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: or black colleges. You know, that type of information is

980
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: what I'm about. That's that's why I got you on

981
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: the show because important people see there are so many

982
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: different styles because of the fact that you know, it

983
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: is limited amount of information. When I see that Mackenzie

984
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: Scotty gives out four point one billion dollars, but they

985
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Speaker 1: don't tell you why she gave out the four point

986
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: one million dollars. And so when I bring you on

987
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: the show to talk about you, I moved the conversation

988
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: of family to the forefront because here's a man making

989
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: a difference who should be recognized for his academic training

990
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: but also for his black excellence. And that's really one

991
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: of the reasons I brought you on the show because

992
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: now because I wanted to talk about this tennis tournament

993
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Speaker 1: that you're kicking off, because it's the first ever and

994
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: you're producing it. Yeah, well, let me say that you

995
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: think about black college tennis. I went to Family you

996
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: and I'm the third black person to coach a Grand

997
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Speaker 1: Slam champ slung students right. Walter Johnson was a he

998
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: coached out then Arthur Richard Williams was the second. He

999
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: coached Venus and Serena. And I'm the third and I

1000
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: coached Long Stevens. Okay, so that's family number one right there. Uh.

1001
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: Zack Evidence was the only black coach on the men's

1002
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Speaker 1: pro tour. He was coaching Frances t Fo. He also

1003
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Speaker 1: went to Family You. Okay, Wow, okay, cool, I'll be

1004
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Speaker 1: a gibson the family. And so the Blacks that are

1005
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Speaker 1: intentness also have a great history and in a relationship

1006
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: with family, you know, with with HBCUs, you know what

1007
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: I mean. So I think that's also you know, little

1008
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: known fact. But I think it's important to know that.

1009
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, two years ago the only two black coaches

1010
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: and all the protendants both went to HBCU uh and

1011
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: so you know, even my teammate, my teammates know why

1012
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: they will coach Melanie who Dan who you know if

1013
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: you google her story years ago, she made this incredible

1014
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: run in the U S Open so I think that, um,

1015
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've got a sort of uh promoted

1016
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: it and talk about the more with Fami. You it

1017
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: us at the Atlanta right when Melanie out of Atlanta. Absolutely,

1018
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: I definitely know as we see you graduate intennis players

1019
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: have had a big imprint on professional tenants for a

1020
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: long time. Uh, you know, it's just so happened that

1021
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: we're very modest personalities. You know, it's very modest. Lead

1022
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Speaker 1: that to me, leave that shout out to me. That's

1023
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: my job. My job is to get you to talk

1024
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: about it, give you a platform to be able to

1025
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: shout it out, and then we should accept the responsibility

1026
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: that this is legitimate and we should support it because people,

1027
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, you could say it was tough, but you know, man,

1028
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: you know six sixt point nine million dollars black owned

1029
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: and operate a tennis facility. You're a really good talker

1030
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: of people believe in what you have to say and

1031
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: what you've accomplished. So I always say that sometimes we

1032
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: work so hard come out that we kind of forget

1033
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: that people believe in as if we don't sit back

1034
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: and look at all our success, and sometimes the grind

1035
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: can overwhelm you and my sinners over women. You brother, look,

1036
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: you've coached Grand Slam tennis champion and we all saw

1037
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: this weekend how tough that is. You know, Emma who

1038
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: warned this weekend at eighteen years old the previous Grand

1039
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Slams he had to walk away because the pressure was

1040
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: too great at the Wimbleton and so you see how

1041
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: it affected Novak Djokovic, you know, and afterwards he said

1042
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: he was relieved. You know, every every game he played,

1043
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Rob Labor was in the stands. You know what I'm saying, like,

1044
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: what's up, You're gonna take it. You're not gonna take you.

1045
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, the skinny Russian come along and

1046
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: he can't. Even everyone who served was during their ages

1047
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: and so but but that's that pressure, you know, you

1048
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: putting on a tennis tournament, that's another level of pressure

1049
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: and expectations to talk about that. Yeah, so um, I mean,

1050
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, with covid Um, there was an opportunity to

1051
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: add some tournaments of the calendar with the with the

1052
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: pros not going to Asia this year because of the pandemic.

1053
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Uh and so you know it's a good you know,

1054
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: I made sure that you know, just as I did

1055
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: in my corporate career prior to twenty seventeen or prior

1056
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: to when I left Corporate America. You know, I make

1057
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: sure that when I'm at these advents and at these

1058
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: tournaments that network continue to meet people, be a good person, um,

1059
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Speaker 1: you know, really exemplify what it means to be a

1060
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Speaker 1: black man who HBCU grad, who's educated, come from the family, uh,

1061
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Speaker 1: and not just be seen as just a tennis coach.

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Speaker 1: And so over that time, I've had to you know,

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Speaker 1: build some relationships, um, you know in the C suite,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the Tennessee suite. Uh. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been working to just sort of bring things like

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Speaker 1: that to Chicago because with excess tennants just a cradle

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Speaker 1: to grave approach. You know, the cradle is obviously teaching

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Speaker 1: the kids, and then the grave is being able to

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Speaker 1: support professional tennis and and and like bring it to

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Speaker 1: the inner city, you know, like you know, the kids

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Speaker 1: in this neighborhood don't have the opportunity to go to

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Speaker 1: New York and watch us open. So my goals to

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Speaker 1: bring us open to them. And so that was always

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Speaker 1: a part of the strategy, uh, in the vision and

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Speaker 1: this year we happened to you know, be able to

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Speaker 1: maneuver and negotiate to be able to pull it off.

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Speaker 1: So it was great, I mean, and and it it

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Speaker 1: really is. I mean, listen, what what black promotion, the

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Speaker 1: black ownership and a tennis event means is that you

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Speaker 1: can have black suppliers. When I go to the teenish tournaments,

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Speaker 1: there are no black suppliers. Getting a security firm that

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Speaker 1: got the contract? Is why the catering company got the contract?

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Speaker 1: Is white? Transportation company got the contract? Is white? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know when I go to US Open, I walk

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Speaker 1: fifteen feet and my credential gets checked every five feet.

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Speaker 1: You know this is this is the year after song one.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, guys, my baby faces on that billboard,

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Speaker 1: right I am, I'm that guy, So let me buy right.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that just comes from not having

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Speaker 1: enough enough black, enough black bodies on the site. And so,

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Speaker 1: you know, being able to own this event really gives

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Speaker 1: me the opportunity to a give out wild cars to

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Speaker 1: up and coming black players and be uh support black vendors.

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Speaker 1: You know. So we have black hander, black security company,

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Speaker 1: black graphic design, black printer, black pr black marketing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: most of the ball kids were African Americans. Uh and so, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just really really gives an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: sort of continue what what the world is trying to

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Speaker 1: do now right, which is poor black people, and expose

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Speaker 1: the world to black people, because you know, I would

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Speaker 1: say about tennis, it's the ultimate melting pot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is the globalist of games. And um, you know,

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: we've got to start to welcome everybody into the game,

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Speaker 1: right the Serbians a check, Russians, the South Americans and Canadians,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of us. We gotta grow from tunis

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Speaker 1: you that's coming to town? So you know, like the

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Speaker 1: world needs early exposure to each other, and this event

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00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: allows that to happen. Well you see that. You just

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Speaker 1: see all the mixed race winners and champions that are

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Speaker 1: in tennis nowadays, from Canada, from Japan. And but again

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Speaker 1: with that whole thing, you know, I talked to a

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Speaker 1: very humble man, come all merged, a humble guy. You know.

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Speaker 1: Excess Tennis Village is on thirteen acres, y'all. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: live on five acres. I know what thirteen nakeres looks like? Okay,

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00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: fifteen outdoor courts, twelve indoor courts. Okay, the fitness in

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Speaker 1: the classroom is located primarily and low income area of Chicago.

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Speaker 1: So when I talked to him, I look at him,

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Speaker 1: I look at the square and ago, brother, you're special.

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Speaker 1: You're doing something I know some people will consider impossible.

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Speaker 1: God gave you a talent, put you in the right direction,

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, your your your relatives, they pick

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Speaker 1: up that racketball. Your mom says you're gonna keep you

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Speaker 1: busy with babysitting duties. And then well you say you

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Speaker 1: didn't love it or not, there is a love for it.

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Speaker 1: And then you're making a difference because Sloan Stevens won't

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Speaker 1: be Sloan Stevens without you. She's not a Grand Slam

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Speaker 1: champion without you. And in the fact that you are

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Speaker 1: affecting three thousand students annually at your facility in Chicago

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Speaker 1: makes a difference. The fact that you're sending young students

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Speaker 1: to colleges on scholarship opportunity is impressive. And when you

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: say all those things, and I'm not just trying to

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00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: make you down in the dumpers, hey man, you need

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00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: to dump your chest. I'm just telling brother, you're special

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Speaker 1: and that's my job is to acknowledge that and to

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Speaker 1: get you to understand that you're a value member of

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Speaker 1: this world. Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you having me on. I mean, you know, look, I've

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: got tons of people in my life that provide me

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00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: encouragement and when I started slowing down and kick me right,

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Speaker 1: but you know, Garrison is one of those people. Really

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: jeans one of those people, uh brother named Les Corney,

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00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, because it gets hard. So I appreciate with

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00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: what you just said. I appreciate the encouragement. Um and uh, hey,

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00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: kudos to YouTube man, thank you for having me on

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Speaker 1: and and supporting what I'm trying to do. Yeah, I'm

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00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna come to talk to my boys Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're we're get we I'm gonna connect you

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00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: with him man after this interview. I gotta do some

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: extra for you to man because you specially yeah uh

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Speaker 1: and seven, they would appreciate that, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: you know. One of the things about this facility, it

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00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: was it was created with a lot of help from

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00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: NBA players. So my best friend in high school and

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00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: still to this day, is a guy Nam Quentin Richardson, Uh, yeah,

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: from Chicago, and then Dwyane Wade and Bobby Simmons and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of people sort of uh you

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01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: know it helps facility come here. Whether it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: give me some game tickets so I can entertain this person. Well,

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Speaker 1: hey I need a chat. You got it, you got

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Speaker 1: the Mercedes. I need a chat. Um. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of basketball influence uh in this in this

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Speaker 1: facility as well, because in Chicago, in addition to the

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Speaker 1: business community, there's a lot of athletes, you know that

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Speaker 1: way we make it, make it from the stuff from

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Speaker 1: west Side. Now, who those athletes NBA athletes that you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned that kind of didn't hear, Quentin richards and

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Speaker 1: dwyang Way, Bobby Um, you know, they all kind of

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Speaker 1: stepped the road checks to support the calls. Still involved,

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Speaker 1: still support of uh working on phase two and three

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Speaker 1: with those guys. So. Um. You know a Kyan Dueling's

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Speaker 1: daughter trains here. You know, he's the coach of the

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Speaker 1: Utah Jazz live with me this summer. Um, he was

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Speaker 1: cus teammate back in the day. So you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of help from a lot of

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Speaker 1: different sources with my man, you keep winning and again

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna promote this and keep you in the fore

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Speaker 1: front of black excellence, my brother, and again you're making

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Speaker 1: a difference and I can't if you ever need to

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Speaker 1: kick in the butt, just just as Bobby. I know Bobby.

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Speaker 1: We said, Bobby, he's he's in l A. When I

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Speaker 1: was in l A. We still on the same floor,

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Speaker 1: same condo. So you're doing very well, man, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know his brother, and I know exactly that Chicago

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Speaker 1: We talked about on the phone during an interview, And

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