1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio, almost famous 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: the ogs. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: We're here, We're. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: Back, we are back. In a fact, we have a 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: great og with us, my man JP. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 4: What's going on guys, JP? 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: How are you, buddy? Thank you for joining us. 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 4: You're very welcome. Thanks for inviting me. This is fun. 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: It's so fun. 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: We get the old we get the old schoolers together 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: and we talk about, you know, walking up hill both 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: ways to school and how things were tougher. You know, 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: it's so much harder to find, you know, the perfect 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: match with a rose back in the day, right kind 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: of stuff. 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 4: You gotta do it the old fashioned way, walk into 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: a bar, meet somebody, or the end of a friend 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: or come on good old days. 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: It is kind of funny. 20 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but you know, when 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: the whole app dating thing first came out, you know, 22 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: and they were always talking about it, I'm like, dude, 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: that's just it's ridiculous. Who would use an app to 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: meet someone? And they're like, hey, dummy, you went on 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: a TV show and handed out flowers? 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's that. 27 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, Like I did it the old fashioned way. 28 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have the old fashioned. 29 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: Way now it's considered the old fashioned way. Back then, 30 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: for sure, it was. 31 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: Not a little bit of a renegade. 32 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: So how is life, JP, what's up? 33 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: Life is good? Life is it's pretty stable, and you know, 34 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: obviously as you get older, it gets a little more 35 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: this is the wrong word, but different, but a little 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: more boring. I would say, you know, it's good. You know, 37 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: like the kids kind of consume everything, and you know, 38 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: you kind of make the most of the time that 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: you have free, which if you were a divorced you 40 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 4: have a little more time free than when you're married. 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: But but either way, it's life is good. Like happy 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: kids are happy. I'm happy where I'm in a good 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: groove both socially and with work. And I don't know, 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: I don't have much to complain about these days. Yay. 45 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: And you're loving Miami. 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: I'm liking Miami a lot. You know, this summer was 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: nine years since we moved down. 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: That's a long time. 49 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: It is a long time, I hear it. The ten 50 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: year mark is really where you start feeling like you're 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: at home to this. But you know it, I still 52 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 4: every time I go back up to New York and 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: I'm in the city or I'm on Long Island. It 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: still feels like home to me. My family, my extended 55 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: family is still up there. So I love it down here. 56 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: The quality of life is great. You know, Everyone's like, well, 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: would you move? Would you move? And the short answer 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: is yes, but I can't because the kids are here moving, 59 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: so I'm not moving. So I am here for good 60 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: and I am enjoying life. And it's you know, Miami 61 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: in Florida in general is really a great quality of life, 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: so no complaints. 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: I love it down there. You know, about twenty years ago, 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I used to date in Miami heat dancer. 65 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: Oh really, okay you yeah, isn't that interest? 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't it? 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: Wasn't it you who he danced for Kris? 68 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: Wasn't there just a reunion or something? 69 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Was? 70 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: I got to dance it? It was so much fun. 71 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: It was so intimidating because I'm fifty years old and 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: I do not dance like ever, not like Ashley. Like 73 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: I know Ashley goes to like, you know, kind of 74 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: like dance classes at the gym. I didn't have that 75 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: in Veil when we were living there, so like, I 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: haven't danced in forever, and it was so much fun 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: to be out on the court. Blakely came with me, 78 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: my daughter and she got to meet all the girls 79 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: and be on the court too, and it was. 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: It's like Miami is We'll always have a special place 82 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: in my heart just because I spent seven years there. 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: But you know, it definitely is a unique place, I 84 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: feel like, and so for me, it's good to like 85 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: get there and visit. 86 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know, like constantly having to wick 87 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: away the sweat because that's I'll tell you. The one 88 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: thing about Miami is it is brutal hot sometimes, you know, right. 89 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: And humid, the humidity. 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: You know, everybody's always said the summers are so hot. 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: The summers are so hot. And I got to tell you, 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: for eight of the nine years, it never really bugged me. 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: You know, you moved a condition. This is the past. 94 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: Summer was brutal, though, really really bad. 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Lot are you. 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: I go fishing as much as I possibly can, so 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 4: I'm definitely on the water a lot. Yeah, you know, 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 4: and you just kind of deal with it. It's just 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 4: it's just a part of life. And come October November 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: until April, you know, it's it's really gorgeous down here. 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to bring up the fact that on 102 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: I think on a recent story that you shared, you 103 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: were taking the kids somewhere maybe just see your family, 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: and they were complaining. They were not complaining about the cold, 105 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: but they were. They were freezing and it was like 106 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: eighty degrees inside. 107 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: I was up, Yeah, I was up in New York 108 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: this weekend with the kids. And if it dips below 109 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: eighty two, I mean I'm yeah, yeah, seventy eight for sure, 110 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 4: but somewhere from the seventy eight to eighty two range. 111 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: They are they're cold. They're just they're they're cold. 112 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: You know. 113 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: They're so funny and they really own. 114 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: What happens. 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: Remember the first time Ford saw felt snow, he was 116 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: so excited and happy and it was fun, and then 117 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: the cold hit him and he burst into tears. 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Well wait, so when obviously when everyone met you, obviously 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: it was with Ashley and your season of the bacheler 120 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Atte and then you were living in New York at 121 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: that time, right, so you both did you both start 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: in New York? I thought you did, so. 123 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 4: I was living and working in New York. Ashley at 124 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: the time she went from her dental school at Penn 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: to her pediatric dental residency, which was also in Philly. 126 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: So we we moved. We were briefly in New York 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: together when when we when we met, and then we 128 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: moved to Jersey, which was halfway between my work and 129 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: her residency. Lived there for two years, and we had 130 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: the option to moved out of Miami for a minimum 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: of four years at that time because I had a 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: work a work opportunity, and we're like, if we don't 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: like it, we'll come back, and so we moved and 134 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: you know, nine plus years later, we're still here. 135 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: That's crazy. So that was actually for you that I 136 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: don't know why. 137 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: In my mind I thought maybe that's where she was 138 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: given an opportunity to practice or whatever. So that's that's 139 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: really cool. It was so you basically were like, let's 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: let's do this. And so then she started her practice there. 141 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. So she she had lived in Hawaii for a 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: year and always knew she wanted to live in a 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: warm climate, and so this was an opportunity where we 144 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: could live in a warm climate where I didn't have 145 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: to really change much with work, and she could work 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: do what she does. Really, anywhere there's there's a need 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 4: for for pediatric dentists. And you know, at the time 148 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: she wasn't starting a practice, but she was joining one, 149 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: and there's always a need. So it seemed like a 150 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: good fit. And we weren't married to it. It was 151 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: you know, four years and minimum for me and we 152 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: could always have moved back. 153 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's awesome. That is awesome. And so the 154 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: kids really only no living in Miami. 155 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: That's it. Forty was born. 156 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, amazing. Where was he born? Which hospital? 157 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: South Miami? 158 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: So sorry I worked at a hospital, but he wouldn't 159 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: have been at the hospital. I guess they don't deliver anyway. 160 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: Uh so I have to ask, how is your health? 161 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: I know you were diagnosed with giambiera de'ambre a while ago. 162 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: How are you doing. 163 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Very I'm impressed you pronounced that the right way. 164 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: I couldn't pronounce it. Yeah, she gets. 165 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: Out now, you know. It was I was extraordinarily lucky 166 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: where my case was diagnosed super fast. I was treated 167 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: fast and they stopped the progression fast, which is really 168 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: the key when it comes to that stuff. So my case, 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: although you know, I spent two months trying to walk 170 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: again in tie my shoes and button buttons and pt 171 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: and ot and spent some time and you know, every 172 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: day pretty much doing that stuff. There are stories where 173 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: people stop breathing and they're on a ventilator for four 174 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: months and they spend six months marking learning how to 175 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: walk again. And so there I was on the I'm 176 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: going to say easier end of the spectrum and super fortunate. 177 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: But you know, there's no there's I'm back to normal. 178 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 4: I mean I was pretty much back to normal within 179 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: a couple of months. Yeah, And the odds of me 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 4: getting it again are the same as me getting it 181 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: in the first place. 182 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I was going to ask. Is there 183 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: any chance? 184 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 185 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: No, I think it's like one in one hundred and 186 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: fifty two hundred thousand something like that. 187 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: I don't do they do they know why you contract it? 188 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: Not? 189 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: Contract is a genetic Is it? Is it a genetic thing? 190 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: There's nothing on genetics, they say. You know, generally it 191 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: stems from your your your battling an illness the week before, 192 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: and the antibodies that are fighting that that illness then 193 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: turn on the nerves in your body. And I remember 194 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: it vividly because the week before it was our anniversary 195 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: and we were away, but like I was definitely ill 196 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: with some sort of stomach bug and then a week 197 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: later it happened. 198 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: So, oh my gosh, that is so crazy. I didn't 199 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: realize that about it. 200 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's tied to like vaccines. I don't 201 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's any data on that, but 202 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's uh, it's crazy. 203 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. So how is you know? 204 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: Obviously we have to talk about the divorce because this 205 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: is a Bachelor podcast and you guys, and I know 206 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: that people are interested in kind of knowing your story. 207 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: But how how are things with you? Do you guys? 208 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: Are you? I know you're amazing co parents are you guys? Friends? 209 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Are you in touch other than like having to exchange 210 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: the kids? How is life with you? 211 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: Guys? Life is? Life is good. It's very stable. You know, 212 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: she and I it's it's it's civil. We're friendly. There's 213 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: no you know, there's you know, we don't hang out, right, 214 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: it's not like we're friends, but but there's an open 215 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: line of communication. We text or talk or some sort 216 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: of communication almost every day. And yes it's all kid related, 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: but you know, there's there's no resentment, there's no anger, 218 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: there's no sort of you know, ill will uh. You 219 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: know that actually took much longer for me to get 220 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: past than than her, for sure. But the relationship is 221 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: so and stable and friendly and fine, just fine. We're 222 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: making it work. 223 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I said it when we had we had Ashley on, 224 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: I actually said it. I was like, even if you 225 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: want the divorce, divorce is still really hard, and so 226 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,359 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, going through it, you're still undoing 227 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: a family to a certain degree in figuring out how 228 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: to you know, everyone says co parent, but almost like 229 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: co brand that family moving forward, like Okay, here's how 230 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: we're going to try and do this, and it's never 231 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: what it was. So it's always a challenge, I think, 232 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean I've been a divorce guy also, 233 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: so I understand that feeling. Even though even though I 234 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: knew it was the right thing, it wasn't necessarily something 235 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: that I was all, you know, puppy dogs and ice 236 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: cream about. You know, it takes time emotionally to get 237 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: your life back, to get back in charge of your 238 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: feelings about your life and about that person one hundred percent. 239 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean I think that I had a I can't 240 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: speak for her, but I know I had it. Seemingly 241 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: I had a much harder time with it post divorce 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: than she did. I think, you know, in her mind, 243 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: she she was there already like towards the end of 244 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: the marriage, and for me, it was just I had 245 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: I just had a really tough time, you know, for 246 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: the following year, year and a half just accepting it. Yeah, 247 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: not because I was still in love with her, just 248 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: because you have this image of what you want your 249 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: life and your marriage and your family to be and 250 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: that gets shattered and it's like, is this really my 251 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: new reality? And like this is not what I want? 252 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: And so it's a constant battle, you know, and emotionally mentally, 253 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: and it just took me. Took me a while to 254 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: get to get past it. 255 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: Well, I think I was gonna say, when you're in 256 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: the public eye too, there's a little bit of at 257 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: least I went through this embarrassment, you know, like I was. 258 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was I know it was 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: self imposed. I mean, I know I was doing it 260 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: to myself, but I was just like, oh my god, 261 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: I've let all these people down or I've done all 262 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. And I think, you know, I 263 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: think people feel that even if they're not in the 264 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: public eye. 265 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: But it definitely is sort of amped up a little 266 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: bit when you are you know. 267 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we we've i mean, historically, we never 268 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: really felt any pressure with that, you know. I think 269 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: I think I was more I felt like I let 270 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: myself down and I let my kids down, you know, 271 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: like that I that I had that I grew up 272 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: in this seemingly perfect, you know, four person family with 273 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: my parents and my brother in the house and the 274 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: you know, and and I felt like I ruined that 275 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 4: for them initially, right, I don't feel that way now, 276 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 4: but I felt like I ruined that for them, and 277 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: and just accepting like is this it is? 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: This? 279 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Is this? 280 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: So now I'm that guy that's divorced and now I 281 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: have two kids and looking for love again. It's just 282 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: it felt very surreal, and I didn't accept it for 283 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: a long time. 284 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how how are the kids doing with it? 285 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: There? They've always been great with it, you know. She 286 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: we our process for divorce was very drawn out because 287 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: we had we had made the decision right before COVID hit, 288 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: and then well like, well, well, now what do we do. 289 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: We're supposed to get divorced, but the kids are coming 290 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: over from school, we sell the house like so there 291 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: was so we had a drawn out process where I was, 292 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: you know, living in the guest room, and then she 293 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 4: moved I moved out, and we sold the house. So 294 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: the whole divorce process was spread out over a year 295 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: and a half, maybe more so the kids. Yeah, it 296 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: was so the kids didn't see an abrupt uh, we're 297 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: getting divorced, momb's moving out, and it was never like that. 298 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: And plus they were also younger too, so yeah, they 299 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: always handled it very very well. And now they know 300 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: mom and dad are divorced and we split time and 301 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 4: then there's there's split days, and so they know. They've 302 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: always been accepting of it, which is one big, you know, 303 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: level of release us. 304 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I said, I think that says a lot about 305 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: you two as parents too. The I mean, you know, 306 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: I can't it's. 307 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Probably I know it's never easy on anybody, but the 308 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: way you two handle it and the way you two 309 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: are with one another, I'm sure kind of trickles down, 310 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: you know. 311 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: They they see mom and dad being. 312 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Really good to one another and being carrying in sweet 313 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: people which you both are, so I'm sure that probably 314 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: helps a lot. 315 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: You know. 316 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we made certainly conscious efforts to not show emotion. 317 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: I shouldn't say not your emotion, not if Ashley and 318 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: I were disagreeing or felt a certain way. It never 319 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: you know, it was never shown in front of the kids. 320 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: It was always happy. This is the way it is. 321 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: You love your mom, you love your dad, We love you. 322 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: It's there was always. It was always full of love, 323 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: and they wouldn't know any different, aside from the fact 324 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: that we weren't living together right good. 325 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: In terms of social media, Ashley came on and she 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: talked about how afterwards she got a crap ton of 327 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: haters coming at her. Did you get the same thing, 328 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: like anything? 329 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: Like, no, no, no, I mean it was relatively quiet 330 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: post of Wars. You know, there was obviously the comments 331 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: we're here for you. I'm sorry to hear that. I mean, yeah, stuff, 332 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: I don't remember reading anything where like you. You know, 333 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: maybe there was the occasional you ruined a marriage and 334 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: you walked away from your kids, Like maybe there was 335 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: one occasional one of those, but it's kind of. 336 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, blow it off. 337 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: You don't really listen to it. 338 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you take the get with the bad in those bads, 339 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: but it was. 340 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: Certainly not overwhelming. It's the point where I can't remember 341 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: any of them. Yeah, I do remember all the positive, 342 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: you know, the positive feedback that I got. 343 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: Just are you a more like positive guy? Because I 344 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: feel like Ashley and I are pretty very similar in 345 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: the fact that we're pretty sensitive and like I, if 346 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: I would get any kind of hate, like the one 347 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: out of a hundred out of a thousand, I focus 348 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: on that one. You know what I mean? Do you 349 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: feel like if you if she got like one, like 350 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: you were saying you might have gotten one, that she 351 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: would have more focused on that and you were. 352 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: Look, those can be overwhelming, right, You could get five 353 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: out of five thousand, and all of a sudden you 354 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: want to start responding to these people, and like they 355 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: get you all amped up. They certainly get you more 356 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: amped up than the positive ones. So sure, it's possible 357 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: that there were a handful that made it seem like 358 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: there were a lot. Look, I don't know, she didn't 359 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: really share that with me at the time, so but yeah, 360 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: you get that one that you really want respond to, 361 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: is like, what's the point should I really respond, does 362 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: it like you're just creating this unnecessary just stress. So 363 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: so and I probably used to be like that, but 364 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: but these days, like I just I just don't give 365 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: a crap. 366 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: I think you go through enough in life, right, you 367 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: start prioritizing the someone sitting behind a keyboard just trying 368 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: to get your you know you're going right. 369 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: You're getting a more fuel if you respond, you know. 370 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: Right, totally? Yeah, Okay, so dating are you dating? 371 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: Uh? I'm not dating anyone at the moment, kay. You know, 372 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: for I had a it's been a very interesting few 373 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: years because I was not accepting mentally and emotionally of 374 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: the divorce for for a while, and that certainly impacted 375 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 4: my ability to connect with women, you know. I mean 376 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: I remember just going out on dates just to go 377 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 4: through the motions because like I needed it for me, 378 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: you know. And and then I realized fairly quickly, like 379 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: I'm not ready for anything like and so and also 380 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: you know, not my twenties anymore either. So it's not 381 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: like I'm just looking to go out and have fun, 382 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 4: you know, Like that's that's because that's not what I 383 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: That's not what I want either. 384 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: So it's. 385 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: Have to be careful, I mean, and you certainly can 386 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: have a lot of fun, but not that I'm not 387 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: having fun. But you know, I'm older, I know what 388 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: I want. I'm not you know I'm not. But I 389 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 4: was not in a place for a while to really 390 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: get anywhere. And so, you know, for a good year 391 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: year and a half, who knows, I just I couldn't 392 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: connect Like I would meet women, I'd go out on dates, 393 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: and but I just couldn't get there. 394 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 395 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: Now I'm just at a place where I have connected 396 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: with women, and you know that there are there is potential, 397 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: but it comes in ways, right like like there have 398 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: been three, four or five months stints and then it 399 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: it it either fizzles or dies for some reason. That 400 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense, like oh, you're not sure 401 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: if you want kids, and I want kids, and there's 402 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 4: that whole and so but overall, I'm at least in 403 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: a good place to date these days. 404 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: Are you saying you want more kids? 405 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: I am saying that, No, I don't. I feel like 406 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: I tell I say the same thing to everyone. It's 407 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: very difficult for me to put myself in a position of, 408 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm in love with you. Of course 409 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: you want to have a kid, Yes, let's have it, 410 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: let's have a bait, Like I can't. I don't know 411 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: what my brain and my heart will feel like in 412 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: that moment. But I'm also but I'm not looking for 413 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: a family, like I'm not looking. 414 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 5: To have kids, right, right, So you know, and that 415 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: answer is not really I mean, it's honest, but it's 416 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: not really what a lot of women want to. 417 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: Hear, like they want to be very popular on the 418 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: same page, like I want to start a family or 419 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 4: I like, I don't think I want that, But I 420 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 4: can't tell you how I will feel in that moment. 421 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 4: So I've had a handful that, like I just can't 422 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 4: continue to see you because you're just not You're just 423 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: not sure. And I'm like, I get it, you know, yeah, totally. 424 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: It's such a it's such a different I would imagine. 425 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: So I was JP, how old are you? 426 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 4: Forty six? 427 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so I was. 428 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: Forty What was I forty one when I got divorced 429 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: or forty something like that? No, I was, I was 430 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: younger than that anyway, I was really I'm fifty two. Yeah, 431 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm fifty two. The first thing that goes to the memory, 432 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: but I remember I was probably late thirties when I 433 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: got divorced, and I remember even then thinking to myself, like, 434 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, but I didn't have children at the time, 435 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: and now that I do, if I put myself back 436 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: in that place, like, oh, if I'm all of a 437 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: sudden single with a couple of kids, I just don't 438 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: know what. I don't know how I would react either. 439 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's great that you're so 440 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: mindful about it, though. I think that's a big part 441 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: of it, right, is to know who you are and 442 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: know what you want and you know. 443 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: Be prepared to deal with however the chips fall. 444 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: I suppose, Yeah, it's definitely limiting. But at the same time, 445 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 4: you don't want to get involved with someone and spend three, 446 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 4: four or five six months and then realize like, I'm 447 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: still still don't want a kid and you still do 448 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: and now you've just wasted six months and so so yeah, 449 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it's the only way to go these days. 450 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know any other way to 451 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 4: do it. It would be a lot easier if I was, 452 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 4: you know, twenty eight to thirty two, and even if 453 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: I had a kid at that age or didn't like 454 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: it'd be a lot easier, but it's it's founding. Yeah. 455 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Well, so we recently had Deanna on and we were 456 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: her and I were at for me and her. How 457 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: do you say that? Anyway? 458 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: We were she and me and she and I? She 459 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: and I and yeah, because you would say because I 460 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: was at that. 461 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 4: So yeahat take off the second one and how does 462 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: it sound exactly? 463 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: There you go for the English lesson? Boys. So we 464 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: were just at the Mentel all for the current season 465 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: of The Bachelorette, and we were joking with the producers 466 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: and probably not just joking, it was probably a little 467 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: bit serious on her part, but talking about since they're 468 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: doing a Golden Bachelor, would they do a like midlife Bachelor? 469 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: If they did, would you ever go back? 470 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 471 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: Man, look, I don't close any doors, right, Like, Okay, 472 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: it would be very difficult to say yes to something 473 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: like that just because the logistics with the kids in 474 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 4: my career, I don't know what that would look like. 475 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: So just be like, no, I would never No, I 476 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 4: can't say that, but like I don't it's not likely. 477 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: I don't know how to make all that work. But 478 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: you know, the old the older I get, the more 479 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: I realize that you just like you live your life, 480 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: have fun and make the most of it, because the 481 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: older you get, the fewer opportunities there are to do 482 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: things that are unique and fun. And so, you know, 483 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: I look at my my parents that are getting older 484 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: that they're a little restricted in what they can do, 485 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: and so you know, I'm not going to say no, 486 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: you know, but it's certainly not what I want. Right 487 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 4: there were a couple of golden bats where jokes throw 488 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: in my way by the way, just saying, oh. 489 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure I will you watch? Have you seen like promos? 490 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: Will you watch? Do you watch it all? 491 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: I haven't watched in years. 492 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be my guess. I feel like 493 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: most of the people who are in our age don't 494 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: necessarily watch these days if they've been part of the show. 495 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: I just feel like it's harder to connect with the 496 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: people who are in their twenties when you're in such 497 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: a different place in your life. So that's why I'm 498 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: excited about Gary season, you know, And I feel like 499 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: I can relate more to the sixty year olds than 500 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: I can twenty year olds. 501 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: No, yeah, oh man, I hadn't thought about it. That 502 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 4: way before. 503 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: You're right, if I find myself with nothing to do 504 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: on a Monday night and it's on, when I watch 505 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 6: a little bit of it, maybe just out of curiosity, 506 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 6: but certainly not setting my. 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: TVR. What do they call these days? Yeah, right, recording. 508 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: Just as a funny thrill back JP. 509 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: So my my season of the my whole season of 510 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and I think Trista when I was on 511 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Trista's season as well. My brother in law saved on 512 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: his new fangled recording device back then called TiVo. But 513 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, this is gonna be around forever. This 514 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: thing's gonna be amazing. Well, when when my wife and 515 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: I got together, she's like, well, I want to see 516 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: your season because I was in high school, you know. 517 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: So we put it on and we can't figure out 518 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: how to hook it into a new like the new 519 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: smart TVs. When we finally get one of the things 520 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: plugged in, it's like in black and white, which she 521 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: thought was great because she was like, you know, oh 522 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: yeah back in your day, and I'm like, whatever, dude, 523 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: it ended up being like. 524 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: Just a disaster. So yeah, when you said DVR, its 525 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: just triggered me because I'm like, oh yeah, I mean, 526 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: what is it called? These days? 527 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: You can't even get yours on YouTube, Like there's no one. 528 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think they made mine 529 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: into it. But I mean, I don't know. 530 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there. 531 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I'll get a clip from 532 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: someone now and then, but I feel like it's like 533 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: from Hulu or something. Yeah, that's funny, something like that. 534 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: Somebody said they replayed my season not too long ago 535 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: on Hulu. 536 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but it doesn't live there, like you can't 537 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: go there whatever you want to watch it. 538 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, appointment viewing. 539 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: I think, right right, like in the communities down near 540 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: Miami that are for the elderly folk, you know, like 541 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: shuffle boards and oh crowd, you know, that's appointment viewing. 542 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to move up to Boca for that though. 543 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: There you go there, you go, what grades are the 544 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: kids in? 545 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: They just started third and first? 546 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: Oh so you got to you got a while before 547 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: they're out of school. 548 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah. Their school only goes up to fifth grade, 549 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: so they'll have to change schools going to middle school. 550 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I actually brought up to me 551 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: the other day for the first time, would I ever 552 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 4: consider moving a little bit further north in Florida, like 553 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: up to you know, for Lauderdale, Boca del Rey. And 554 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: you know, it's something that we've started talking about. Not 555 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: that we have to move together, but no, that's an 556 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: hour commute each direction. Yeah, we were both open to 557 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: doing it, that maybe we would do it just to 558 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 4: you know, get the kids in a little bit better 559 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: of a school and a different quality, different cost of 560 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: living up there. And so we'll see. Right now, we're 561 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: sticking to stay in put, and. 562 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: Your job is pretty secure. Like, didn't you just start 563 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: I feel like you just posted too. Didn't you just 564 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: start a new project? 565 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 566 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, but but my I do so I do real 567 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: estate development in every different phase of a development. This 568 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 4: just happens to be one that we broke ground on 569 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: for the first time in a while. 570 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: Oh got it. 571 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: That's down in Miami. So yeah, I would have to 572 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: come down to Miami to service some of my clients 573 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: and some of my projects down here. But you know, 574 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 4: people commute like Bocus as far north as I would go. 575 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: But we just started talking about it. Who knows that 576 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 4: it's going to happen. 577 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember back in the show. 578 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: You were construction management back then as well, so you yes, 579 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: I stayed in that world, huh. 580 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: I have. 581 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: I flip flopped back and forth between the construction and 582 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: the development side for for a while, and then I've 583 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 4: just been on the development side for I don't know, 584 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 4: ten twelve years at this point, maybe even more. 585 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: Gotta be easier on the on the joints in the moment. 586 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: Well, I was never I mean I was never. 587 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: Never you were swinging a hammer. 588 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't swinging a hammer and stolen drywall, you know, plumbing. No, 589 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: it was more the management role. 590 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: That's good, that's good man. 591 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 592 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to know if the fact that you 593 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: were in the public eye do you feel like it 594 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: played a part in your divorce at all? No, because 595 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: you guys were pretty, i mean really pretty private, like 596 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: I don't you weren't constantly on social. 597 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, you know, we went back to she 598 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: went back to her career, I went back to mind, 599 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: and you know, we would do obviously the occasional things, 600 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: the promotions. We'd have fun and show the best parts 601 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: of life on Instagram like everybody else generally does. Yeah, 602 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure she would say the same thing. But we know, 603 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: ever felt any show or public pressure to stay together 604 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: or not tell the truth or any of that. It 605 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: didn't know, did you guys? 606 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: Why Why am I blanking on this? I feel like 607 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: we talked about it. Did you go on Celebrity boot 608 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: Camp or yes, yes, that's what I thought. I was like, 609 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we probably talked about it before you 610 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: went on, just to say, okay, if you do it, 611 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: this is what you need to know going in. 612 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: It was a money grab, like it was. Three weeks 613 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: it would help, it would help pay off her loans. 614 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: Like it was. It was a pure money grab, and 615 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: we didn't have any or as seeming we didn't have 616 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 4: any issues at the time, and we didn't even have 617 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: We found out we were pregnant with sc while we 618 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: were there filming. 619 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: Oh no kidding, Oh my gosh, I didn't know that. 620 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, gosh, yeah, it was really fun. Wait did 621 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: we find out we were pregnant or we found out No, sorry, 622 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: we found out she was a girl when we were there. 623 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: Oh god, she knew we were pregnant before we went 624 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 4: on the show, which I don't think we were supposed 625 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: to do and we did. 626 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, so you don't feel like it played like 627 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: any no. 628 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: No, no, that that had nothing to do with that. 629 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: That was pure like, well, if they're going to pay 630 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: us this, we probably should just to consider it. 631 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Right, I can't Yeah, well, yeah, any opportunity like that. 632 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: That's kind of how we were, even not knowing what 633 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: it was going into it. I do feel like it had. 634 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: They gave us a lot of great advice, you know. 635 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: We came out of it with a couple of friends 636 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: and some good advice. But other than that, it was 637 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: kind of like. 638 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: A vacation us. 639 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: They passed the spectrum right, and we were at witty 640 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: one end. 641 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 6: Of the spectrum, you know, and then you can imagine 642 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 6: the other end of the spectrum being not us. 643 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say connected with anybody. And it was 644 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: all so fast, like I could I don't remember. I mean, 645 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you one lesson I learned from it. 646 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, okay, well it's all good ten years. 647 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: Ago, eight years ago. I mean it's our really today. 648 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: I say, first thing, it goes as the memory, guys, 649 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: it's first thing. 650 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: And the eyes it looks blurry in the background for 651 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: all I always is okay, just make it sure. JP Man, 652 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: thank you so. 653 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: Much for joining us, and thanks for being a part 654 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: of us with us, and great to catch up on 655 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: where you're at in life. And I've always just thought 656 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: I remember you and I met years and years ago 657 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: at one of our Buddy Graham Buns things. He was 658 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: doing down and down right in the heart of Manhattan. 659 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: I remember walking away from that thing, going, God, that 660 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: guy is just as awesome as I knew he'd be 661 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: on TV. It was like, you're such assault of the 662 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: earth guy. So it's great to hear that you're doing well. 663 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: And I love that you and Ashley get along and 664 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: are doing it right for the kids too. 665 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: I think that's so important. So congrats on everything, buddy. 666 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: Thanks and you guys are ever in Miami, Trista, did 667 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 4: you get to connect with the Ashley when you were 668 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: here or no. 669 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: I did it. It was a pretty quick trip and 670 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: I tried, but she obviously was working. Yeah, and actually 671 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: I think she might have been traveling. Oh one more question, 672 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: have you met have you met her boyfriends? 673 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: I haven't. 674 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Actually almost got away from this. 675 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: We don't have enough time for that. Unfortunately, we're at 676 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: a time. What a shame. No, I haven't met him, 677 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: but I hear good things and she's happy and that's 678 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: all that matters. 679 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: So okay, well, what a gentleman, and that's geez. 680 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: We hold these time, these time things, we go hard 681 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: on these. 682 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: You should have led with that conversation. I don't know 683 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 4: why you didn't. What a shame. 684 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: You know. I'd love to have you back on and 685 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: we'll shy to close, but that question. 686 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: I'd be happy to And if you guys have ever 687 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: gone to Miami, please please let me know. 688 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: We will take care of yourself. 689 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: JP talk by take care. 690 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: God. 691 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: I love that guy. They say that is he is 692 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: such assault of the earth guy. I love it. 693 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. I remember times in New York 694 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: with him too, and and with Ashley, I mean just 695 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: getting together. Actually we got together for a Marria boot camp, 696 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: like an event that they were doing, and I got 697 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: to meet the kids when they were tiny, tiny, and 698 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 2: just just I was heartbroken when they broke up. 699 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: I was too that one for some reason, and I 700 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: mean I had only met them a couple of times, 701 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: but it really affected me. I remember going, oh, they've 702 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: got to be just going through it and you know. 703 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, I'm glad that they've come 704 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: out the other end of it so well. I mean, 705 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: obviously Ashly a few weeks back, she's doing great. JP's 706 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: doing great. Sounds like the kids are doing great. 707 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: So you know, there you go. 708 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I as a parent or a child of divorce, 709 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: I feel like everything happens, you know, for a reason, 710 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm proud of them for, you know, being 711 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: so great about it with each other, like just making 712 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: sure that the kids are their priority. I feel like 713 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: that's probably what I take away from how they co parent, 714 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: Like you said, like the kids are they're everything, So yeah, 715 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: I think they sure are important. 716 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: Family first. 717 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: Love it alright, you've been listening almost famous to OG's 718 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: our podcast. 719 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: I loved having JP on the show, and she's been 720 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: Trista and he's been Bob. And we'll see you next time. 721 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: Bye,