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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's that love is in the air. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just all emotional in my feels. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 2: just getting soft in my old age. But I'm watching

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Speaker 2: right now as the NBA All Star Action is going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching Dame win the three point contest, and I

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Speaker 2: just keep thinking, I've heard everybody yell all week about this, Like,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's okay to admit that something on TV just

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Speaker 2: isn't for you. It's fucking fits on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: hanging out with you on Fox Sports Saturday, He's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz. Did you get me any chocolates? Dude? Like, well,

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Speaker 2: I can't have any chocolates. My body's the temple. Did

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Speaker 2: you get me flowers? What did you get me?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: As my work wife and you are the wife in

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Speaker 2: this one? What did you what you get me for

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day? Do you get me anything good?

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Speaker 1: You know what I got you? The presence of being

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Speaker 1: here all right? My dinner situation is not till lighter.

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Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, I gotta work tonight

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Speaker 1: for a couple hours and then afterwards I'll slide out

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Speaker 1: and I'll do what needs to be done. But I

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Speaker 1: do think that we need to address the elephant in

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Speaker 1: the room before we get on with any kind of

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Speaker 1: sports conversation of importance today. Did not a single person

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Speaker 1: that works on this show even bother to acknowledge the

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Speaker 1: fact that, you know, maybe one of us might miss

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Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day, Ian Mary FITZI, anybody did it even

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Speaker 1: cross anybody's minds? Is everybody here?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I think it was just a subconscious thing. I just

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Speaker 3: knew neither of you were going back. Look, I'll be

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Speaker 3: responsibilities today.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is something we got to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is kind of sad.

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Speaker 3: Let's say maybe I actually have a girlfriend. Either of

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Speaker 3: you who said, you know, assume that I would be,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got to be what I is like

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: I have never, even all the way back to high school,

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Speaker 2: I've never been in a relationship with anybody that really

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Speaker 2: cared about Valentine's Day. It's just never been a thing

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Speaker 2: that's been a focus for me. And this is where

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Speaker 2: people will, oh, no, that's just what she's saying. No, literally,

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Speaker 2: I've never been in a relationship with anybody that truly

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Speaker 2: cared about Valentine's Day. It's it's tough for me because

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Speaker 2: my whole thing has always been like the one on

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Speaker 2: one of it. If your relationship is strong, then I

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Speaker 2: don't really like I'll buy you flowers on February eleventh

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Speaker 2: for half the price, like I ain't paying Valentine's Day

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Speaker 2: prices for a price fixed menu at a restaurant like

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Speaker 2: Cracker Barrel going price fixed for costs.

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Speaker 1: Fine, he's talking about the flowers around Valentine.

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Speaker 3: Meaningful that you do though, even though it means nothing

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Speaker 3: to her, you still do it.

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Speaker 2: It's not Valentine's Day, It's homemark Day. It's a manufactured

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Speaker 4: Its not so miserable.

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Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm happy. I'm smiling as I said this.

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Speaker 1: No, No, your tone is fine, but your message is foul.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like Joe Judge, kind of like Joe

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Speaker 1: Judge a little bit this week. Now we got an

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Speaker 1: apology message from Joe Judge. You're gonna have to issue

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Speaker 1: a statement on behalf of all love boy everywhere on

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day for your slander. Shame on you. Honestly, it's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day. Ian. I'm sorry I didn't assume that

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Speaker 3: That's okay, Buck, but I appreciate you apologizing. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I.

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Speaker 2: Have to apologize for He's the one that threw everybody

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Speaker 1: You're talking about money on Valentine's Day. Of course, immediately

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Speaker 1: immediately Red Flag brought.

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Speaker 4: Up your dinner plans unprovoked, like nobody asked that.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he Buck didn't tell you. It's with his cat.

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Speaker 2: He's going to dinner with his cat. That's what like

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Speaker 4: As it gets.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just because you found somebody to sit across

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Speaker 2: I'm just did you.

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Speaker 1: Talk about Francis that way? I won't hear it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I just keep it now.

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Speaker 1: I'm imagining now slander is compounded double the fun.

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Speaker 4: You see what you did, but I didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like you and I were talking before

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Speaker 1: of us are just sitting here on Valentine's Day. It's fine,

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Speaker 4: Now you trying to make it, you're trying to make

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Now. I think it's really sweet. When I see all

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Speaker 2: Maybe I would see it differently in the world if

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Speaker 2: just this just doesn't if I'm making my budget for

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Speaker 2: includes like look I learned learned right now. Not everything

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Speaker 2: don't get hit in December. Like I'm I'm very logical

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Speaker 1: Put me all day.

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Speaker 2: Look, if we're in LA and you tell me you

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Speaker 2: to put the bill. I will do that all day,

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Speaker 2: go to the fancy steakhouse in LA, I'm gonna look

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Speaker 2: at Buck and say, get your walleted out, buddy, we're

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Speaker 2: I'm all in on that.

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Speaker 1: But if it's balancing me and be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I use a gift card on a date car and

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Speaker 2: no I would. I would use a gift card on

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Speaker 1: Like between the two of us that I'm the romantic one.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie though, for the average girl, as

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Speaker 2: You play with. Look y'all when I say I grew

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Speaker 2: and I say, We're going to Chili's because that's all

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Speaker 2: a long, long, long time ago I dated this girl

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Speaker 2: And she wanted to go to the melting pot. And

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Speaker 2: and I was like, my got, I'm working three jobs.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have any cash I had, I had nothing.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not talking about that. We're not talking about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you have to pay the most

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Speaker 1: Applebee's or TGI Fridays or any of these other places, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I cannot accept this.

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Speaker 2: It's a line item.

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Speaker 1: Cannot accept it.

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Speaker 2: Look, Valentine's also coupon.

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Speaker 1: Shame on you. I would fight you in the street

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Speaker 1: if I saw you paid for a date with coupons.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're specifically on Valentine's stuff.

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Speaker 2: No, here's here's the real of it. I will admit. I. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I'm frugal. I get it. When I get a

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Speaker 2: I get paralysis at that point because I'm so worried

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Speaker 2: Like I have had gift cards to Best Buy in

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right price, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm busting the gift card out. Like if if we're

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Speaker 2: going to Del Fresco's in New York, which is, by

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Speaker 2: the way, a delightful steakhouse. If I'm out there, it's

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Speaker 2: it's chained. But like, if it's delightful, if I can

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Speaker 2: get a gift card to it, make that bill cheaper, Oh,

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Speaker 2: then you can have that extra piece of lemon cake.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I'm all honestly, I'm so glad.

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Speaker 1: We started the show this way. Can't get mad at me.

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Speaker 1: This is way better than whatever we get alive.

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Speaker 4: You know what, from a little poor girl to a

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Speaker 4: I can't hit on it.

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Speaker 2: And the nice thing is then see the bucket. The

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Speaker 2: took to immediately. Is this is a huge miss, and

436
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Speaker 2: it shows you how out of touch they are. No,

437
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Speaker 2: it's not a miss. It's an indication they know where

438
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Speaker 2: their audience is. They're going to places like a food

439
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 2: truck instead of being a great restaurant, they're trying to

440
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Speaker 2: deliver tacos to the beach, so they are taking kids,

441
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Speaker 2: They're taking content to kids where they can be met.

442
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Speaker 2: I think the NBA is marketing to young people, and

443
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Speaker 2: they're more than happy to let steven A the older said.

444
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Speaker 2: The grayer steven A gets, the more his hairline goes

445
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Speaker 2: further to the back of his skull, the less the

446
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Speaker 2: NBA actually cares about what he has to say about

447
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Speaker 2: the product. Overall.

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Speaker 1: Ye, I don't know that they don't care, right because

449
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Speaker 1: I think at a certain point, if you're Adam Silver

450
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Speaker 1: and listen, there are deeper conversations to be had about

451
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Speaker 1: Adam Silver and whether these strategies that he's employed are

452
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Speaker 1: actually benefiting the NBA long term. I think there are

453
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Speaker 1: arbitrary complaints that people have about basketball, and then I

454
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Speaker 1: think there are very fair things to point out about

455
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Speaker 1: the quality, particularly the regular season. It's not a debate

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Speaker 1: we necessarily have to have right now, because at a

457
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Speaker 1: certain point, while you are trying to microwave your audience

458
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Speaker 1: as well, you can't just microwave your way through the

459
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Speaker 1: regular season and expect people to buy into your sport

460
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Speaker 1: that way, especially if these people aren't actually watching games now.

461
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Speaker 1: Maybe at a certain point that ceases to matter. I

462
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Speaker 1: can't imagine that that it would actually be the case.

463
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Speaker 1: But as long as there's the current schedule, we understand

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Speaker 1: that there's going to be that conversation around the NBA.

465
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the answer to that is the

466
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Speaker 1: correct one, right, because how sustainable, how tenuous is that

467
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Speaker 1: as a strategy. There are fair complaints to be had,

468
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Speaker 1: But like your biggest personalities regarding the NBA publicly complain

469
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Speaker 1: about your product an awful lot, and I can't imagine

470
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Speaker 1: that that doesn't impact an influence. You know, where is

471
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Speaker 1: Stephen A or Charles Barkley, who or Shack The way

472
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Speaker 1: that they talk about basketball sometimes and it's not you know,

473
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Speaker 1: obviously they understand more about the sport than any of

474
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Speaker 1: us could possibly learn in our lifetimes. Nobody would dispute

475
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Speaker 1: that show, but there is a there is a dated

476
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Speaker 1: nature to the level of conversation sometimes on that show,

477
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: even though we all love it and it's excellent, right,

478
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: sometimes the analysis and maybe they're taking it as seriously

479
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: as some people in the regular season do right where

480
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Speaker 1: they're like, you know whatever, we'll get to this when

481
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Speaker 1: we get to the playoffs. I just I don't know.

482
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Speaker 1: I think there's some serious flaws in the way that

483
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Speaker 1: this whole thing is packaged and sold.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. I just my my counter to

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Speaker 2: that entire point, because it's a very you're right everything

486
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Speaker 2: you just said his right book. But my counter to

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Speaker 2: that is that the NBA understands their fans. The majority

488
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Speaker 2: of their fans now are watching content on YouTube, not

489
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Speaker 2: a ESPN. The majority of their fans are listening to podcasts,

490
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Speaker 2: not national shows. The majority of their fans understand that

491
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Speaker 2: most of the screaming head stuff that's happening on major

492
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Speaker 2: networks right now just doesn't align with what they actually

493
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Speaker 2: give a damn about. So because they haven't been fed

494
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Speaker 2: for so long in a quality way by major media outlets,

495
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Speaker 2: I think that they've just dispersed and they found it,

496
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Speaker 2: which is why, you know, frankly to be one hundred

497
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Speaker 2: percent transparent when we talk about NBA on Yahoo Sports,

498
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Speaker 2: the numbers go through the roof. Why because the NBA

499
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Speaker 2: fans are looking to be fed elsewhere, And I just

500
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: think that that's a it's a sign, it's an indicator

501
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Speaker 2: that the sport. While the TV numbers are such an

502
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: obsession that TV numbers are only part of the story

503
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Speaker 2: of how the NBA is making money and how the

504
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Speaker 2: NBA is growing their sport. Also, you mentioned tanking. Tanking

505
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Speaker 2: is all of our fault. Well, I'll explain what I

506
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Speaker 2: mean next. These buck rising up Jason fitz. First, let's

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Speaker 2: get Chris to get us updated on everything going on. Christophet,

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Speaker 2: what do we got? All right?

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Speaker 7: Guys, Let's catch up on everything a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 7: USA Hockey had started the game the game at Milano,

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Speaker 7: Cortina at the twenty twenty six Winter Olympics, down one

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Speaker 7: two to Denmark and hand ringing was out there, but

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Speaker 7: flurry of goals. I think there was like two goals

514
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Speaker 7: in about fifty seconds, saw a three to two lead,

515
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Speaker 7: final score six to three. Next up is Germany on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: It's the last game in the preliminary rounds. Women's team.

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Speaker 7: USA defeated Italy on Friday to advance to the semi finals.

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Speaker 7: So already the Americans over there trying to hang on

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Speaker 7: to the big team sport in the Olympics. On the

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Speaker 7: college basketball hardwood, Number two Michigan an utterly dominant forty

521
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Speaker 7: six point to eighteen point second half this game was

522
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Speaker 7: only separated by two points between Michigan and UCLA. Final

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Speaker 7: score eighty six point fifty six domination by the number

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Speaker 7: two team in the country. Six players were ejected in

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Speaker 7: a brawl between Providence and Saint John's that started after

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Speaker 7: a hard foul on Bryce Hopkins. Saint John's ended up

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Speaker 7: winning that game. Seventy nine sixty nine Number four Duke

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Speaker 7: dispatch Number twenty Clemsons seventy sixty seven to fifty four

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Speaker 7: Number five Kansas taking care of business, And I accidently

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Speaker 7: wrote it down here that they're also taking care of

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Speaker 7: number nine Kansas. That is apparently wrong. That is probably

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Speaker 7: Iowa State. I'll correct that excuse. May seventy four fifty six,

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Speaker 7: Number fourteen Florida defeats number twenty five Kentucky ninety two

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Speaker 7: eighty three. In the NFL News, Raiders have promoted assistant

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Speaker 7: Rob Leonards to their defensive coordinator role, looking take on

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Speaker 7: that internal hire for Clint Kubiak's news staff. NBA three

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Speaker 7: point contest was won by Damillard. It's his third title,

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Speaker 7: putting the company of Larry Bird and Arizona about to

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Speaker 7: take the court in college basketball. Meanwhile, in overtime BYU

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Speaker 7: number twenty two has got an eighty nine eighty four

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Speaker 7: lead on Colorado, fifteen seconds left in that game.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, he's Buck rising on Jason Fitzit's

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Speaker 2: Bucking Fits hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio

544
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Speaker 2: on a Fox Sports Saturday, as we do every single Saturday.

545
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Kidney caught up on everything that's going on across the

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Speaker 2: land as we speak right now. As we sit right now,

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Speaker 2: we sure to subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: YouTube and subscribe. Buck a lot of conversation about tanking.

553
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Speaker 2: Hear me out, Okay, this is always my take on tanking.

554
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of our fault. And by ours, I don't

555
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: mean the media, I don't mean microphones, I don't mean fans,

556
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Speaker 2: I mean everybody's Because we have decided as a society

557
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Speaker 2: that the only thing we care about when we analyze

558
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Speaker 2: the greatness of NBA players is how many championships they've won.

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Speaker 2: So when you create a system where you can be

560
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Speaker 2: the number one team. All we're gonna see this this year.

561
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Speaker 2: Detroit right now leads the East. If Detroit makes it

562
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Speaker 2: all the way through the season with the best record

563
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: in the NBA, which right now looks like it could

564
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: absolutely happen, the first conversation we're gonna have at the

565
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Speaker 2: end of this long, tremendous, amazing regular season is yeah,

566
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Speaker 2: but we haven't seen them do it in the playoffs,

567
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Speaker 2: and playoff basketball is so different than regular season basketball.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure what to really make of it.

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Speaker 2: We can't really credit it. And then when they get

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, if they don't win, we'll immediately look

571
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Speaker 2: at it and say, well, that whole season was a

572
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Speaker 2: fail and it will be forgotten. You are a fan

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Speaker 2: of Indiana. Indiana went to the NBA Finals last year.

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Speaker 2: Immediately forgotten the way that went down. Sorry to bring

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Speaker 2: up these, but.

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Speaker 1: Immediately forgotten all of your trauma, except until I spit

577
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Speaker 1: it right back in your face on national radio.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for Indiana fans, for the Indiana fans

579
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Speaker 2: not forgotten, but for the rest of the NBA culture

580
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: and most of the people that cover it, and nobody

581
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: gonna talk about Indiana. Yeah, they're terrible this year, but

582
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: he ain't nobody gonna talk about Indiana. If we are

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Speaker 2: going to live in a society where the only thing

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Speaker 2: that we credit or the number of rings you get,

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00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: and your regular season success doesn't matter unless it leads

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Speaker 2: to postseason success, and your postseason success isn't worth the

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Speaker 2: damn unless it results in a ring. You create a

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Speaker 2: situation where you're truly living Ricky Bobby. If you ain't

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Speaker 2: first your last, and if that is really the way

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Speaker 2: we're gonna cover the entire sport, then the regular season

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Speaker 2: becomes worthless. The minute the regular season becomes worthless. What

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Speaker 2: choice like, who cares if you tank? Who cares if

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Speaker 2: you tank? If you win seventeen games or seventy? The

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Speaker 2: only thing we want to care about anymore is championships? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that season are lost because they lost to

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: If you ask Mike Vrabel, I bet you said, I

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Speaker 1: bet he says yes. I mean, but I know he

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Speaker 1: was asked immediately postgame, and you know to not to not.

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Speaker 1: I think there's there's also a balancing act that coaches

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Speaker 1: and players should play right where you want to. You

602
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: don't want to make it feel worse additionally than it

603
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: already does to you know, go to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and get your ass whipped, which is exactly what happened

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Speaker 1: in the New England Patriots. And I think that Rabel's message,

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Speaker 1: just to sit that specific example was, you know, just

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Speaker 1: because it didn't go our way in this one doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that we had a bad season. So I understand

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Speaker 1: the premise. It's kind of like, you know, who does

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Speaker 1: this better than March Madness in the NCAA, where to

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Speaker 1: make an Elite eight and a Final four, I mean

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Speaker 1: even a Sweet sixteen, given the single elimination, given the

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Speaker 1: just the width, the pure you know, the amount of

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Speaker 1: different participants in the tournament. Understanding it's really hard and

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Speaker 1: sometimes the best team doesn't always win, right because if

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Speaker 1: you have an off night in March Madness and you

617
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Speaker 1: get got by who was it Saint Peter's or Loyola

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Speaker 1: of Chicago or one of these upset teams throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of March Madness, Like it's still an accomplishment to

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Speaker 1: make it to one of the final rounds of the tournament.

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Speaker 1: But that's really the only sport that we had just

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Speaker 1: for that way, and I think it is okay, to

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Speaker 1: have that standard, even understanding that that's a flawed way

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Speaker 1: to think about a measure of success. If you're talking

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00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: about trying to achieve the ultimate goal, you can have

626
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: successful seasons that stack, right. Coaches talk about stacking weeks

627
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: in route to putting together the best possible performance throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. You can stack seasons if

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Speaker 1: you've got an organization that knows how to do these things. Well. Seattle,

630
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Philadelphia right in the NFL at any case, understands the

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Speaker 1: balance that's necessary. You know, maybe take your lumps in

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Speaker 1: any other given year, but for the most part, you've

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Speaker 1: got a championship standard.

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Speaker 2: Look at the way we talk about Josh Allen, okay,

635
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: and now ask ourselves if Josh Allen was an NBA player,

636
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Speaker 2: how would we talk about Josh Allen? I think we

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00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: hold the NBA to a wildly different standard. Like the

638
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: minute you don't win, the minute Yannis won one, it

639
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: was well, how can the Bucks only win one? With gianness?

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Speaker 2: And now even through all of this, it's like he's

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00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: only one one? Right, Like I heard debates the minute

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00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Chris Paul retired, Well, you know, is he a top

643
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Speaker 2: ten player? Can't be without a championship really so so

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Speaker 2: Dan Marino can't be a top ten quarterback of all

645
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: time without a Super Bowl. Like the way we talk

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Speaker 2: about the NBA is so obsessed with not just winning

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Speaker 2: a ring, but do you have three, four, five, six?

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Speaker 2: And I said this when I worked at ESPN. How

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Speaker 2: can I, as a brand partner at the time at

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Speaker 2: ESPN and the NBA, how can I sit here and

651
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Speaker 2: tell you that there's meaning to an NBA game in

652
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Speaker 2: February when I'm gonna tell you in July it didn't matter.

653
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Speaker 2: And we've been doing that for a decade with the sport.

654
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: We've been sitting here saying, whatever happens in the regular season,

655
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Speaker 2: you can average a triple double in the regular season,

656
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Speaker 2: but if you don't win a championship that year, nobody cares.

657
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Speaker 2: You can have the best record in the NBA, as

658
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: Golden State did have a historic team, but if you

659
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: don't win a championship, you're suddenly a failure. Certainly, we

660
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Speaker 2: look back at the Patriots being undefeated and losing to

661
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Speaker 2: the Giants, but we couch that as an incredible moment

662
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Speaker 2: for the Giants, and we rarely bring that up as

663
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Speaker 2: an individual failure for Tom Brady. But in the NBA,

664
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Speaker 2: we immediately do that. That's why I think we created

665
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Speaker 2: this system that only rewards one thing. So if you're

666
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Speaker 2: going to be like if you're the second or third

667
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Speaker 2: best team in the NBA for five or six years,

668
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Speaker 2: everybody lumps you in the same way they talk about

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Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz at some point. So what's the point

670
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Speaker 2: of just being pretty good? You either have to win

671
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Speaker 2: the championship or you have to find a way to

672
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Speaker 2: suck so much that you have a shot at one.

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Speaker 1: I just think that that's a flawed parallel that you're

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Speaker 1: trying to draw between football and basketball, because you are

675
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Speaker 1: so much more able to influence the results as an

676
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Speaker 1: individual in basketball, right we talk about I mean, that's

677
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Speaker 1: the entire conversation that we just had around Sam Donald

678
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Speaker 1: and Seattle. And I'm not saying that that excuses Josh

679
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Speaker 1: Allen or Lamar Jackson for being in that draft class

680
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Speaker 1: and not having made a Super Bowl, and Sam Donold's

681
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Speaker 1: playing in a Super Bowl and playing his best football

682
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Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl.

683
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Speaker 1: But we I mean, it's the rare place that we

684
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Speaker 1: actually do have nuance. It feels like understanding that, yeah,

685
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Speaker 1: it's not one thing or the other. In the NFL,

686
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Speaker 1: it's not one player so able to individually impact the

687
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Speaker 1: performance that that team ultimately ends ends up winning the

688
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. No, it's the best team that goes out

689
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Speaker 1: there and just puts its thumb on the other one

690
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Speaker 1: because of a talent gap, or they're better coached, or

691
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Speaker 1: that all of the above. In the case of Seattle,

692
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Speaker 1: they're just better in all three phases, and they're gonna

693
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Speaker 1: put a beat down on you. In the idea that

694
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Speaker 1: you know, Drake May, nobody could have saved Drake May

695
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Speaker 1: from what that was, no matter how bad Will Campbell

696
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Speaker 1: was allowing fourteen pressures, Like no coach was going to

697
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Speaker 1: scheme up some kind of grand protection plan to mitigate

698
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Speaker 1: to outright stop that, right they could mitigate it. There's

699
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: some criticisms that are fair of Josh McDaniels and all that.

700
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Speaker 1: In the NBA, it's completely different because you do look

701
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Speaker 1: at that superstar player as okay, no, it's on you,

702
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: like they're gonna do the best to make it work

703
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: around you. And maybe we've advanced the conversation in the

704
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Speaker 1: last I don't know ten to fifteen years about all right,

705
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Speaker 1: the super team approach all these different conversations like there's

706
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Speaker 1: different ways to do that. But even more so, that's

707
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Speaker 1: why if you stack a roster in the NBA, it

708
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: has far greater impact with just three or four players,

709
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Speaker 1: two or three players that you can actually, you know,

710
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: assign that responsibility blame or other blame or credit to

711
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Speaker 1: an individual far more than you can in football.

712
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Speaker 2: Isn't that though? The very reason that teams have to tank.

713
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City was built by tanking. San Antonio to some

714
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Speaker 2: level was built by tanking. But okay, see particularly, I

715
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Speaker 2: mean they rebuilt this thing by being terrible and stacking

716
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Speaker 2: pick after pick. Nobody yelled when SGA was shut down.

717
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: And for anybody that says a fine will do any

718
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Speaker 2: good this year, there are three players in college basketball

719
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Speaker 2: that are expected to be Day one impact players in

720
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Speaker 2: the NBA as much as you can be when you

721
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: walk into the league Day one guys, I'd ask you,

722
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Speaker 2: how much do you think a team would give right

723
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Speaker 2: now to write a check to get the pick to

724
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Speaker 2: assure themselves that they get that guy? Ten million bucks,

725
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Speaker 2: fifteen million bucks. So if your concept is find a team.

726
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: I just ask yourself, how much would Utah pay today

727
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: if the NBA came to them and said, you can

728
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Speaker 2: have the first pick. So you have your choice of

729
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Speaker 2: any aj de bonsa boozer, you can have your choice

730
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Speaker 2: of any of them. Peterson's the third. You can have

731
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Speaker 2: your choice of any of them. How much would you

732
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Speaker 2: be willing to pay? You told would write a ten

733
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Speaker 2: million dollar check for that right, fifteen million dollar check

734
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Speaker 2: for that right. That's why there's just no viable answer.

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Speaker 2: The answer, I think is to change the way that

736
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: we cover the sport, and I just don't I don't

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Speaker 2: think any of that's gonna happen. He's Buck Rising. I'm

738
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Speaker 2: Jason fitz all right, let's get into the NFL a

739
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: little bit of shocking news. Shocking because we got a

740
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Speaker 2: rebrand and what does it mean? Because sometimes you change

741
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: things up and all you do is still piss everybody

742
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Speaker 2: off in the process. We'll tell you about it next.

743
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox

744
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Radio. I'm not sure anybody's ever really happy

745
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: with anything new, but sometimes you get so excited for

746
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: change that you know is coming that the letdown is

747
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: just palpable, and it feels like that's happening right now

748
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: with a team that Buck knows better than most. It's

749
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 2: Bucking fits on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm

750
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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz. I love rebranch, I love any chance to

751
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: make things new. The Titans are building a new stadium.

752
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: We've all heard the rumors that a rebrand was coming,

753
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: and then somehow it looks like that rebrand was accidentally

754
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: leaked on some merch and then before you know it

755
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: confirmed by multiple sources. The Tennessee Titans are changing their logo,

756
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Speaker 2: and I think Buck, there was this hope that it'd

757
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Speaker 2: be some crazy, wild rebrand that really hit people in

758
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: a new and exciting way, and instead it feels like

759
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: they basically took the exaus logo, they put it through

760
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: chat GBT and said change this a little bit, to

761
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: put the Houston Oilers' colors on it, which pays homage

762
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: to the organization's past, and then just kicked it out

763
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: like it's not exactly something wild or creative. And it

764
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: feels like, at least on social media, Titans fans everywhere

765
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: are kind of losing their minds on this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's conflicting, right, because I don't know.

767
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: Did you have strong feelings about the current logo, which

768
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: is playfully referred to by some, including myself as the

769
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: flaming thumb tag the Titans. The current Tennessee Titans logo,

770
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Speaker 1: Do you have some great love of it? Maybe nostalgia

771
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Steve McNair, Eddie George, Keith Bullock, like there are some

772
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: great Titans teams and some great football moments, music City Miracle,

773
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: all these different things associated with that specific logo since

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Speaker 1: they moved from Houston the Oilers, as you mentioned the history.

775
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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, before this, I didn't feel

776
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: like anybody had some kind of great passion for the Titans' logo.

777
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't feel like anybody has any kind of great

778
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: passion for anything Titans whatsoever until they do something. Now

779
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times we're talking about them having fired somebody,

780
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: and there are reasons to have strong opinions about the

781
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: way that they've done their business in the last couple

782
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: of years. But on the logo thing, I don't know.

783
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Speaker 1: It depends on what it looks like on the actual uniform,

784
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: like for example, they're currently and this, you know, people

785
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: really get into uniform stuff. By the way, I don't

786
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Speaker 1: know if I'm if. I'm just kind of like if

787
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Speaker 1: I'm if I'm not, I don't know, as attached to it,

788
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: but like I didn't realize the passion that fans have

789
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Speaker 1: for uniform discussion. Current helmets for the Titans are navy blue.

790
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: The one of the biggest errors I think they made

791
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Speaker 1: in their last rebrand And what was that, like twenty eighteen,

792
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: was changing the helmets from white to navy blue. If

793
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: they changed the helmets back to white and they put

794
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Speaker 1: that Houston Oilersnessee Houston Oilers colors with the new Titans

795
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: logo without the flames around the circle the Tennessee tri

796
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Speaker 1: star that people know with the T in the middle,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm okay with that. The

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Speaker 1: idea that it's just as a standalone logo supposed to

799
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Speaker 1: catch your attention, yet no longer does that. Right as

800
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Speaker 1: a standalone logo, it looks a little bit like corporate

801
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: whitewashed version of what the Tennessee Titans logo used to be.

802
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: But again, if it looks good on the uniforms, are

803
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: people actually going to be as passionate? The only reason

804
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: that people are freaking out. It feels like is because

805
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Speaker 1: you're seeing the two standalone logos back to back and

806
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: it reminds you of the Cracker Barrel rebrand, or at

807
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: least it did me today.

808
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw your tweet on the Cracker Barrel rebrand,

809
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: which I thought was funny because you're obviously also getting

810
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: under the skin of many people that didn't like the

811
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Speaker 2: Cracker Barrel rebrand on it too. I thought that was

812
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: brilliantly played by US strategy. Here's the thing. I moved

813
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: to Nashville right at the same time the Titans did

814
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: from Memphis to Nashville. I went to the first Titans

815
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Speaker 2: game at Nissan Stadium, right, So I've been I'm not

816
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: a Titans fan, everybody knows that, but I've always been

817
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: at least interested in the organization because I lived in

818
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Speaker 2: Nashville for twenty plus years. I hated everything about the

819
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Speaker 2: logo from the outset. To me, it always looked like

820
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: some version of an arena football league high school football like.

821
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: It just didn't have any any real personality to it.

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Speaker 3: It's but would say, so careful, those are your people now,

823
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: the Arena.

824
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: Indoor Indoor Football League, baby, not indoor football.

825
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Speaker 1: How dare you slander them that way?

826
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Speaker 2: Thank you? But also not for nothing. I was a

827
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Speaker 2: Nashville Cats season ticket holder, So I was an AFL

828
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Speaker 2: season ticket holder in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher's still trying to keep that alive.

830
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Speaker 2: It's pitiful, but Nashville has grown so much as the city.

831
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Speaker 2: I think the reason I was bummed for the rebrand

832
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Speaker 2: is it doesn't really feel like a rebrand. It just

833
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Speaker 2: feels like, to your point, they chopped off the flames,

834
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: are gonna put some wipe back in, and then they

835
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Speaker 2: they generically sort of put a filter on the existing logo.

836
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Speaker 2: I thought the rebrand was maybe a chance, especially because

837
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Speaker 2: I think the new stadium looks incredible. Dude, Like the

838
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: images of the new stadium to me are insane. So

839
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Speaker 2: I thought maybe they'd do something that felt more in

840
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: Nashville and it felt more cool to the city that

841
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: is such a hot city right now. And instead it's

842
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: just that that could easily be a Columbus UFL team.

843
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: No, but I think I think that's kind of what

844
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: they are trying to do, Fitzie, like they want to

845
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: be the new Titans, and I don't know how many

846
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: teams or how many franchises can be accused of this

847
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: where they're they're not they're not sacrificing the fans that

848
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: they already have, but they're actively trying to find ways

849
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: to get new fans and the stink of the last

850
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: couple of years of the Titans and the uniforms and

851
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: all these different things, and trying to get away from,

852
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Mike Vrabel optics and all these different things.

853
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: They're trying desperately to reset everything about the franchise. I

854
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a good thing or not, but

855
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Speaker 1: that's what they're attempting to do.

856
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, it didn't work. It failed. Speaking of things that failed,

857
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: will college football expansion fail? Will tell you about the

858
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: playoff proposal next on bucking Fits.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

860
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: Just when you thought college football was going to take

861
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: a rest, more changes are leaked as the Big Ten

862
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: has made a proposal for twenty four teams in the

863
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: college football playoff and it has people freaking out. But

864
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: it actually makes a hell of a lot more sense

865
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: than you think. And I'll tell you why he's buck Rising.

866
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio Buck

867
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: the Big Ten out here putting out a suggestion for

868
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: twenty four teams. But it's not just that they put

869
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: out twenty four teams. That's what everybody hears, and they

870
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: immediately react to the thought of twenty four teams. What

871
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: was interesting to me is within that proposal they eliminate

872
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: college football championship games conference championship games because they speak

873
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: to the fact loudly in their proposal that they do

874
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: not believe that those are worth the risk of injury

875
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: or loss throughout the course of the game. And just

876
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: when you say, well, they can never do that because

877
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: it lose some money and so much money, they explain

878
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: how the bidding process is such that if they expand

879
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: to twenty four teams, it would put several games up forbid,

880
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: not just to ESPN, which would then create a bidding

881
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: war for I don't know the Big ten league partners

882
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: like Fox to turn around and spend a bunch of

883
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: money on I don't know college football playoff games that

884
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: will make everybody a ton of cash. They change the

885
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: entire system. They figure it out in a way where

886
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: all of these playoffs happen through the month of December.

887
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: You still get a championship in mid January, they bring

888
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: that revenue back. This is actually twenty four teams. I

889
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: know that's shocking to everybody, but it's really well thought out,

890
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: at least from a money standpoint and a timing standpoint.

891
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: It's the first suggestions that I've seen that I look

892
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: at and say, wow, yeah, that actually makes a ton

893
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: of sense for college football. I know, twenty four teams

894
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: is shocking to the world, but if they replace the

895
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: money and they get the schedule right, hell, if I

896
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: get more playoff games, I still don't hate this thing.

897
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: No, that's the thing that matters most to I think

898
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: the most amount of people here is you've got to

899
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: fix the college football playoff schedule. And I don't know

900
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: that that necessarily accomplishes that. Beyond you know that this

901
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: format would enact some more change with the transfer, a

902
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: portal window, and all these different things that really really

903
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: complicate the process of trying to successfully sustain and you know,

904
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: not make your life a living hell. Frankly, in college football,

905
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: as far as these coaches and for end players are concerned,

906
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stress and you have to make

907
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: a lot of different decisions about entering the portal and

908
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: what your next opportunity might be. I mean, how many

909
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: kids enter the portal right now and are left without

910
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: a landing spot and only to be just floating out

911
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: there in the college football ether in the offseason. It

912
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: happens a great deal. It's a real problem for both

913
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: players and the institutions who are trying to find a

914
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: way to do this and you know, a somewhat normalized fashion.

915
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: We understand that we're still kind of in a I

916
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: don't know, exploratory period with college sports on a year

917
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: by your basis or FITZI, I mean, I don't know

918
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: how much. I'm sure you guys talked on Yahoo Sports

919
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Daily this week about Trinidad Chambliss and Joey Aguilar and

920
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: these eligibility hearings that are happening in college sports all

921
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: across the country. Charles Benniaco, the Alabama basketball player, and

922
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: all the impacts of these various cases. Right, how do we.

923
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: Keep getting judges in these cases that are from these

924
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: schools like Chambliss's judge went to law school dot dot

925
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: Old Miss, like Bendioco's judge went to school at huge Alabama.

926
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: How are we.

927
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: Doing this but at some point. I mean, look, I'm

928
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: not gonna claim to be an expert on the law,

929
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: not even bird law. There you go always, Sonny, But

930
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: I am gonna at least say I've watched a lot

931
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: of law and order. It seems I got law in order.

932
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Jack McCoy would be sitting there saying, your honor, you

933
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: need to recuse yourself. What are we doing?

934
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a mess. The judge in the Tennessee

935
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: case this week and talking about the schedule is referred

936
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: to Tennessee as US in the middle of the trial,

937
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: or we play down at Arkansas, or something of that effect.

938
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could find the exact line I'm paraphrasing,

939
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: which is probably not something I should do about the

940
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: legal system, but you understand my meeting. My point is,

941
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: after that long way of getting here, does it fix

942
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the schedule and make it more viable, more sustainable for

943
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: college football specifically, so the second weekend in December is

944
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: when they're describing would be their optimal window to start

945
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen playoff Friday and Saturday, away from any

946
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: NFL competition, which is obviously a priority for them. It

947
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: would address that long layoff that has crept up in

948
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: the middle of the twelve team playoff, right, I mean

949
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: Indiana went essentially a month without playing a football game.

950
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: In fact, I think it might have been more than

951
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: a month between playing a football game. It's just not

952
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: even if you are you know it. It raises the

953
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: level of expectation for a team that you know continues

954
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: to improve on a week by week basis and needs

955
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: to stay sharp like that makes it really really difficult.

956
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: We're already seeing it with the teams that get the

957
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: first round bys and the fact that Indiana is the

958
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: only one to win a game with the first round

959
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: by in the history of the college football playoff. It's crazy.

960
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: So I just I think that there are still some

961
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: kinks to be ironed out here, but it at least

962
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: moves us closer if you're taking away that long layoff period.

963
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: It's the most self aware proposal I've seen. Also because

964
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: they specifically talk about ways to schedule games that avoids

965
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: the NFL. They talk about ways to put the games

966
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: on Fridays and Saturdays in December where they're not getting

967
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: in the way of everything else that's going on. And

968
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: I know this is where you know people will talk

969
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: about we don't want to see twenty four teams in

970
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: the college football play I don't really care. At the

971
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: end of the day. You know, if this means that

972
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: the Motor City Bowl is less popular, that's already happened, right, Like, So,

973
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: if your answer is it's going to make the bowl

974
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: games less relevant to some, it will to some, it won't.

975
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: I can't really help that. I'm just trying to figure

976
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: out what makes the momentum swing better and what gets

977
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 2: more people involved. I'm a genuine believer that the more

978
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: companies involved in broadcasting playoff games, the better for the

979
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: overall product. I will die in that hill all day long.

980
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to see every NBA playoff game on

981
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: one network. I don't want to see every NFL playoff

982
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: game on one network, and I don't want to see

983
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: every college football playoff game on one network. I want

984
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: to see more opportunity for people to push each other.

985
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: I want to see more opportunity for games to go

986
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: out there on different platforms, and I want to see

987
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: what innovation we can get. Like, look, ESPN already started

988
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: their lead up to the Super Bowl for next year,

989
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: but I respect the fact that they're trying to do

990
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: it differently. They are giving you innovation and what they're

991
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: already planning for next year Super Bowl. That I think

992
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: tells you why it's advantageous to have everybody involved in

993
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: this process. Give me a playoff where Fox has got

994
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: some games, and ESPN's got games and NBC's got some games,

995
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: Like I want everybody to have a shot at it

996
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: because I think it's better for the consumer at the

997
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: end of the day, Like I just want college football

998
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: to maintain momentum. And look, we just saw a championship game.

999
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: Buck that you and I talked about at the time,

1000
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: was the ratings were through the roof, right, the ratings

1001
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: was it was astronomical to see how many people cared

1002
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: about Miami versus Indiana. Right. So if we get twenty

1003
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: four teams in the college football playoff, I still think

1004
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: that realistic if we're just being honest and we take

1005
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: any fandom out of it. Realistically, if you slap two

1006
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: Lane versus Vandy, if that's a regular Saturday game, a

1007
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: few people care. If you tell me tou Lane versus

1008
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Vandy college football playoff game, people are gonna watch it,

1009
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: no different than most people don't care about the Texans

1010
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: or the Jags, sorry to those respective fan bases during

1011
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: the course of the regular season on a Sunday, But

1012
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: when you put Texans versus Steelers in a playoff game,

1013
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna flock to it. They're gonna watch it because

1014
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs just result in more eyeball. So to me,

1015
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: this all makes too much sense. I mean, I know

1016
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: we want to get it into like too many teams,

1017
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: but I don't really care what conference is aligned with it.

1018
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: I thought it was the smartest proposal I've seen from

1019
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: anybody at that high level, that well thought out, that

1020
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: could actually really be attained well.

1021
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: And when you heard this floated, I don't know. I

1022
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: feel like less than six months ago were the initial

1023
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: rumblings about this at kind of being tossed out there,

1024
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: chumming the waters a little bit to see what the

1025
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: dialogue around a twenty fourteen playoff would be. I don't

1026
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: think people really took the Big ten seriously, but this

1027
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: level of detail, and I haven't read through the entire

1028
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: proposal myself. I'm sure most people are skimming overviews just

1029
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: the way that the rest of us are. With the

1030
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: biggest bullet points pulled out of here. I appreciate that

1031
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: they've put that level of thought and planning into it

1032
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: and are not just you know, seeing what hits and

1033
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: what doesn't. That's that's far too often what college football

1034
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: and really college athletics in this you know period that

1035
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: we're in where it feels like the ground is constantly

1036
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: shifting underneath us. And this is still yet more change,

1037
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: right so, but on a less not as much of

1038
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: an infrastructure level. Though it does address some infrastructure issues.

1039
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: It feels like we've just been kind of throwing stuff

1040
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: at a wall in college sports to try and figure

1041
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: these things out in real time. This is a different approach,

1042
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: and I think most people if they take the time

1043
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: to understand it beyond the headline of twenty four teams,

1044
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: which will you know, there's just going to be people

1045
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: who see that and argue about it without actually understanding

1046
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: the full scope of this thing, it can make sense.

1047
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: In fact, I think they've gone out of their way

1048
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: to make sure that it does address the key issues

1049
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: while still providing more financial opportunity and more opportunity for

1050
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: teams to participate. The thing that doesn't really change is

1051
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: that the best teams are still going to run the

1052
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: table and not run the table necessarily, but you understand

1053
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, you're not going to get Tulane

1054
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: in a college football championship as long as the FBS

1055
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: and the or rather the Power four and the Group

1056
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: of five teams are being asked to compete in the

1057
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: same college football playoff, Like, you're still going to see

1058
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: the big brand names. I understand Indiana's not that, but

1059
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: we also can accept that they're a bit of an

1060
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: anomaly here, Like I don't think you're going to see

1061
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: a lot of teams doing it the way that Indiana

1062
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: currently just had to do it. So I think at

1063
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: the crux of it, we're still going to get a

1064
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: lot of the same results. But this is at least

1065
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: a thoughtful way to both profit, which is ultimately what

1066
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: they're trying to do at the end of the day,

1067
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: while still trying to improve the current situation, which has

1068
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: plenty of room for improvement.

1069
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: I also think the Big Ten is negotiated from a

1070
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: position of power a little bit when they suggest this,

1071
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: because they do have back to back to back national

1072
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: champions and they have one of the best stories in

1073
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: the sport that we've seen in a long times.

1074
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: They have to keep citing, you know, a combined number

1075
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: of combine invites and things like that. It's a sad

1076
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: state of affairs for the best conference in college football.

1077
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Sorry to see it real pick what happens.

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00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I forgot to refer to you as national

1079
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: champion Buck Rising today. I've now I've righted that wrong. Okay,

1080
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: Buck is the ultimate quarterback for this show, but there

1081
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: aren't many ultimate quarterbacks out there in the NFL this offseason.

1082
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: If your team needs a quarterback, you don't have an answer,

1083
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next. He's Buck, I'm Fits.

1084
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: It's bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising.

1085
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm Jason fitz Bo.

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00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: It's Fucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. For the best

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1089
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,759
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1090
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: biggest games on the weekend. Tune into Countdown presented by

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart app. Just when you

1093
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: thought that I couldn't make anything worse, I just did.

1094
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: I just took a very sexy song and I showed

1095
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 2: why I'm not a very sexy person. Buck.

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: No, Mary's honor game, Like, not even you, I mean you,

1097
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: you gave me the ick speaking attempting to speak centrally.

1098
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: Hey over over the music, but no, Mary's got a cover,

1099
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: so you got the vibes right today. No. Yeah.

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00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: Like, if there's anything that I've learned through this process

1101
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: is that the next time I need a Valentine's Day

1102
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: type playlist, I'm just gonna text Mary and be like, hey,

1103
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: just make me. I only need like three songs, so

1104
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: just give me three songs that's nine and a half

1105
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: minutes or two songs, two songs, and then that'll be fun. Okay.

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00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: It actually a sophomore year.

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00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that is like anytime you made a playlist

1108
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: my sophomore year, that is when you know that it's

1109
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: going to be a fire playlist like that, Oh my god, Yeah,

1110
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: there's no doubt there. You know.

1111
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: I transitioned into a woman with that playlist. Life is good, man, Like,

1112
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: it was a good good playlist.

1113
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: See, And that's the like I say this all the time.

1114
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: This is me being an old man. Uh screaming at

1115
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: the clouds, but Buck I often think about like the

1116
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: answer of what was your first concert? Gets less and

1117
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: less cool, like in a modern generation, the question of like,

1118
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: what was your first concert? I just don't think that

1119
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: there's a very cool answer to that. I'm not sure now,

1120
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: like as Mary just says, like it became a woman,

1121
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: Like there are different chapters in life where I can

1122
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: be like that song made me a man. I'm not

1123
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: sure what the modern generation is gonna say about that.

1124
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna be It's not gonna be as

1125
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: cool there. There's just not as much up there now

1126
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: that feels is powerful for these life defining moments.

1127
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: No's uh, I think I think that's a common refrain

1128
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: as we all start to get older, although I still

1129
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: do when I don't think I think mine is ageless.

1130
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: I think Whiz Khalifa or Mac Miller opening for Whiz

1131
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: Khalifa is my first concert. That's pretty damn good. I

1132
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: feel like I win that sounds.

1133
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: Look, I make no bones about the fact that my

1134
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: first concert does not have any street cred, but it

1135
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: impacted me incredibly. Skid Roll open for bon Jovi, that

1136
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: was my first concert. I'm an eighties rock kid. I

1137
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: love the fact that my first concert was bon Jovi.

1138
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: I would not change that for anything. There's not a

1139
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: lot of street crad that comes with it, right, Like

1140
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: you don't. It doesn't have the same resonance. Like I'm

1141
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: the first to admit that when people are like, yah,

1142
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: I saw Aerosmith before Aerosmith was cool. That is way

1143
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: cooler than anything I'm ever gonna say, Like my first

1144
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: concert was the Beatles, Like what am I gonna my

1145
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: first concert was Rolling Stone? Like, I got nothing I

1146
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: can say to those sorts of acts. But you know,

1147
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: I just think now, I don't like my first concert

1148
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: was insert K pop act here. It just doesn't feel

1149
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: like it has a like it feels like we're in

1150
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of a lull for first concert memories,

1151
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: not the pop no no I love. I'm actually a

1152
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: big fan of a lot of the K pop, Like

1153
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the movement. I just don't

1154
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: think that in thirty or forty years people will say,

1155
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, you saw that as your first concert,

1156
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 2: And you know, there's an era where they do say

1157
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: that mac Miller is a good that's a good poll

1158
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: for a first concert with Khalifa too, but mac Miller

1159
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: is a good that's a good poll.

1160
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: I saw Cheetah Girls. That was my first contract.

1161
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, iconic to me.

1162
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember I cried. I was like, I

1163
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 4: think three or four years old.

1164
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: Then I cried.

1165
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 4: I still remember to this day.

1166
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: First concert did he leave?

1167
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: I didn't go to a ton like growing up. So

1168
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: I think mine was actually in like twenty eighteen or something.

1169
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: And ironically, I think it was actually the mac Miller

1170
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: Celebration of Life concert, which is funny because I know

1171
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: Buck said his first one was an actual mac Miller concert,

1172
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: so uh, yeah, he celebratated the question.

1173
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: I feel like, no, he just said it was funny

1174
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: that he went to a funeral concert.

1175
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 3: Well, it was a concert Chance the rapper schoolboy Huge John.

1176
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: That's the way that you said it. It's funny because

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: he was alive when Buck saw him.

1178
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: And he was dead when all right, Well, I guess

1179
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: ironic is.

1180
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: The mood.

1181
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: I guess it's not funny.

1182
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: But I didn't do it. He did it, No, he did.

1183
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: You had to call it out.

1184
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: I will never look again, like these are things that

1185
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: you know. There are not a lot of street credit

1186
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: for uh bon Jovi skid row, but I get that.

1187
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: But bon Jovi was and formative for me. I will

1188
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: never forget to lay your hands on me. Video had

1189
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: come out right when I got the tickets for my birthday.

1190
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: It was a big deal that my parents, because again

1191
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: we had nothing. The fact that we got tickets to

1192
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: that was a huge deal. And the thing that I

1193
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: remember is a my dad I was like at the time,

1194
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: I was like, man, Dad is smoking a lot of

1195
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: funny smelling cigarettes. They were not cigarettes. I figured that

1196
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: out as I got older. But then, uh, as that

1197
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: show started, Richie Sambora was on what I now know

1198
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: is called hoster, which is the thing that pops you

1199
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: up on stage. So the show starts with him exploding

1200
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: up on stage and he lands and there's smoke everywhere,

1201
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: And I so distinctly remember watching that from the crowd

1202
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: and thinking it was already a classical music and I

1203
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: was like, this is so much cooler than anything I've

1204
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: ever done. And you know, in a in a deep

1205
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: moment for a second, the number of times when I

1206
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: was touring that I did not feel like playing a

1207
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: show because we'd played two hundred shows a year. You're exhausted.

1208
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: You just don't want to do it. I always thought

1209
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: I was like, man, there's some kid here that their

1210
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: first concert. I'll never be as cool as Richie Sambor was,

1211
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: but I remember that moment, and I don't want to

1212
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: let a kid down because Richie sandbor didn't let me down.

1213
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: Which is only funny because now Humble Brad Ritchie and

1214
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: I are friends. So every time Richie Sandbori texted me,

1215
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I canna believe that. That's not fine. That's

1216
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: a that's a heartwarming fine of what made me want

1217
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: to know.

1218
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: You can't dress it up in your you know, your

1219
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: childhood heroism. It's still a fine.

1220
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: It's not a fine.

1221
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: Have you seen the movie Ted?

1222
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: Yes, of course they've seen them.

1223
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: You're you're the the the rental car manager who points

1224
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: to the picture him and Tom Scarett. That's who you are. No, no, no,

1225
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: you're Richie SAMBORA friendship.

1226
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: Look, I had to interview him. I got the chance

1227
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: to interview him while I was at ESPN. I met

1228
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: Richie when I worked in sports, but we were doing

1229
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft was in Cleveland, so they asked me

1230
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: if I wanted to talk to a bunch of rock

1231
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: and roll Hall of Famers under the guise of what's

1232
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: it take to become a Hall of Famer? And we

1233
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: zoomed because it was that COVID era where that was

1234
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: all you could do. And then that zoom kicked off

1235
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: for friendship, you know, a beautiful, glorious friendship. Buck, celebrating

1236
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: a little love on Valentine's Day for Ritchie.

1237
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: Your love is a fun You're just just mad.

1238
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it all right. Quarterbacks, That's

1239
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: what we were going to talk about here. I promise

1240
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL this year. If your favorite team

1241
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: needs a quarterback, you're screwed. I want to have a

1242
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: moment of hope here for every fan base. But Buck,

1243
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: it's it's abundantly clear. And I've already talked about half

1244
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: a dozen of I think the smart NFL draft minds,

1245
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: and I keep trying to get a sense on where

1246
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: we are. And Ty Simpson. Nobody seems to think that

1247
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson, while he might go in the first round,

1248
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: is really a first round bet. And he's not a

1249
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Day one bet for anybody. So if you need a

1250
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: quarterback and you're picking second in this year's draft, sorry

1251
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: about your luck. This was not the year for it.

1252
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: There's one guy that's gonna go. He's gonna go number one.

1253
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: That's Fernando going to my beloved Raiders. Outside of that,

1254
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: there's nothing for you in this year's draft. So then

1255
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: you look at free agency. I believe Daniel Jones is

1256
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: gonna end up back in Indianapolis and some sort of

1257
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: a deal that accounts for his leg but also accounts for,

1258
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: you know, a future with the franchise. That means what

1259
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: Malik Willis is your guy. That's it, that's all you got.

1260
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: So what do you do in this year where all

1261
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: of a sudden there's a bunch of teams, Like, if

1262
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: you're the Steelers, you need Aaron Rodgers to come back,

1263
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: even though he's gonna win you too many games to

1264
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: make you suck enough to get a quarterback next year,

1265
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Like you don't have another option. If you're the Jets,

1266
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do. Like you look

1267
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: across the board at teams that need a quarterback over

1268
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: and oh, I'm sorry, Ian, I mean that's why I

1269
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: think Derek Carr is gonna end up the quarterback in

1270
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: the New York Jets on a or four year deal,

1271
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: that pays him handsomely enough for a thirty four year

1272
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: old quarterback that's now gonna be healthy. He's gonna go

1273
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: back into the NFL, and he's gonna play because the

1274
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: Jets don't have any other options. So if he's willing

1275
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: to do it, they have to take it.

1276
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: Did Rivers open the door for guys to just kind of, look,

1277
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna retire, Nah, you know what, I'm

1278
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna pop out and have a couple of years with

1279
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: the Jets left and sign another meaningful deal. Right, there's

1280
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: not that many paydays out there like playing quarterback in

1281
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, even if you're a couple of years removed,

1282
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: there will be a market for Derek Carr given the

1283
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: current circumstance. Man Malik just feels like he's got to

1284
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: go to such a specific situation. And I don't mean

1285
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: that as a slight or an indictment of Malik Willis.

1286
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: I covered him here in Tennessee before he ultimately got

1287
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: traded to Green Bay. He was, I don't know, the

1288
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: situation that he was drafted into here was nightmarish, and

1289
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: he was such a good soldier to get through it

1290
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: and did improve and Matt Lafleuravi helped take his game

1291
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: to another level. I just I don't know. I see

1292
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: that as a depending on the team that offers him

1293
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: the money. It feels like another Justin Fields type of situation.

1294
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: Not to say that he's hit a developmental ceiling, because

1295
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis has continued year over year to

1296
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: show that he's an improving player, and he's got a

1297
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: lot of capability to that point. I think with Justin Fields,

1298
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: people have been trying to manifest it for a couple

1299
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: of years and using what he can do on the

1300
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: ground to kind of justifying all right, we can figure

1301
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: out the rest of this. But at a certain point,

1302
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: he's just not taking that developmental step that you need

1303
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: him to. Carr's We haven't seen Kirk Cousins get released yet,

1304
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: but if he doesn't, Carr would immediately be the best

1305
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: quarterback option in free agency.

1306
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Kirk Cousins heads back to Minnesota.

1307
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: He liked it Minnesota. He never wanted to leave Minnesota.

1308
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: It protects them for whatever JJ turns out to be

1309
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: or not be, if he can continue to play. It's

1310
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: it's weird, and it raises a question about whether or

1311
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: not the tanking conversation we're talking about right now in

1312
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: the NBA is about to hit the NFL. I'll tell

1313
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: you what I mean, But first, Chris Purfect, get us

1314
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: caught up on what's going on on the scoreboard, my friend.

1315
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 7: All right, guys, let's start with college basketball scoreboard. Game's

1316
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 7: almost over. Number thirteen per Due is taking down Iowa

1317
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 7: seventy eight fifty seven at the half tie all tied

1318
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 7: between number one Arizona and the number sixteen Texas Tech

1319
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 7: Red Raiders thirty two a piece. So keeping the eye

1320
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 7: on that one. Earlier in the day, we had.

1321
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: Excuse me, why I pulled this up? Where did it go?

1322
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 7: Number two Michigan, who posted it a really dominant forty

1323
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 7: six to eighteen second half over UCLA. They had been

1324
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 7: only two points a piece the first separated by two

1325
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 7: points in the first half. That final score ends up

1326
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 7: being a thirty point blowout eighty six fifty six. Number

1327
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 7: two Michigan continuing to roll Number four Duke Dispatch Number

1328
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 7: twenty Clive Emsen sixty seven to fifty two. Kansas had

1329
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 7: their eight game win streak snapped by the number five

1330
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 7: Iowa State Cyclones seventy four fifty six, the final score

1331
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 7: men's hockey on the ice at the Olympics. Team USA

1332
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 7: was down two to one to Denmark at the end

1333
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 7: of the first period, but a flurry of goals saw

1334
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 7: that final score being USA six'. Three their next game

1335
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 7: up Is germany tomorrow On. Sunday that's the final game

1336
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 7: of the qualifiers and then the playoffs after. That Women's

1337
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 7: TEAM usa Defeated italy on the ice On friday to

1338
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 7: advance to the semi. Finals The raiders have promoted Assistant

1339
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 7: Rob leonard to defensive. Coordinator looking for an internal hire

1340
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 7: For Clint kubiak's staff and meeting with the press On,

1341
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 7: SATURDAY Nba Commissioner Adam silver said that tanking has been

1342
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 7: worse this year than quote we've seen in recent, memory

1343
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 7: and has said that every possible remedy is on the,

1344
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 7: table including the nuclear option of taking away draft picks

1345
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 7: for teams that appear to be. Tanking bucking fits back to, you, Guys.

1346
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to see if they actually do, that

1347
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: because even to this, day The jazz head, coach when

1348
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: asked about tanking and, Sitting Laurie, markinen commented he's on

1349
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: a minute's. Restriction we did exactly what our doctors tell

1350
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: us to. Do, LIKE i hear it when everybody, SAYS

1351
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: i mean The jazz were just, fined but they try

1352
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: and take away draft picks from The. Jazz, oh you're

1353
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: gonna be looking at at, Lawsuits you're gonna be looking at.

1354
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: ACTION i, MEAN i just it is not that simple to.

1355
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: Me so that's where it gets, complicated AND i think

1356
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: it might creep into THE nfl this. Year all, right

1357
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: hear me out book we Are i've told you before

1358
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: this is my great philosophy on. Quarterbacks when you see

1359
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: one that you can, get even if they're not as

1360
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: good like last, year the conversation was should they Take

1361
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: should The titans Take camp this? Year i've heard the,

1362
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: conversation should The raiders Take. Fernando my answer to that,

1363
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: is if you're waiting till next, Year, well so far

1364
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: the last couple of, years we've always said next, year

1365
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 2: the quarterback class is gonna be. Great the other part

1366
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: of it, IS i don't know how you guarantee that

1367
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: you outsuck the rest of THE. Nfl that's where this gets, key,

1368
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: right because there are four teams this year that only

1369
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: won three football, games including The Tennessee. Titans The Tennessee

1370
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: titans are picking fourth this. Year so even if next,

1371
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: year by this time next, year we're looking at and

1372
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 2: saying there are three can't miss, prospects, well you could

1373
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: win three games and still miss out on one of

1374
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: those three can't miss. Prospects so the only way that

1375
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 2: you can truly guarantee you get the first overall pick

1376
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: is if you outsuck everybody else that next year might

1377
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: be trying to outsuck everybody. Else LIKE i genuinely wonder

1378
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: when we start talking about The, steelers we talk about The,

1379
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: jets we talk about The arizona who Has Kyler. Murray

1380
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: but let's see what that actually, means, right what do

1381
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: The dolphins want to do With? Tua are we gonna

1382
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: look at teams now in THE nfl and, look it's

1383
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: impossible to get AN nfl team to. Tank it's impossible

1384
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: to get coaches not to, care it's impossible not to

1385
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: get players not to. Care it is not impossible to

1386
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: build a roster that's absolutely so dreadful that you try

1387
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: and find yourself just sitting it out this. Year AND i,

1388
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 2: wonder given the importance of the quarterback, Position given how

1389
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 2: hard it is to find a, quarterback given the fact

1390
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: that we're two years now in a row where it's

1391
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 2: been almost impossible in free, agency and given the fact

1392
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: that OR i should say in the, draft and given

1393
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: the fact that there isn't a lot in free, AGENCY

1394
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: i wonder IF nfl teams are going to have to

1395
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: look internally and just, say, man the only real shot

1396
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: we have is making sure we out suck everybody.

1397
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: Else THE nfl is much more harsh in dealing with

1398
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: these situations than THE nba. Is, like people have legitimate

1399
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: fear that they're and because we've seen evidence of this,

1400
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: right they will doc you draft, picks they will find

1401
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: you significant sums of money if you, attempt for example

1402
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: With Steven, ross and The dolphins did, attempt which was

1403
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 1: the whole one hundred thousand dollars. Handshaking in, Fact Brian

1404
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: flores had a huge. Win it's going to all of

1405
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: this stuff is going to come out in open court

1406
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 1: against THE. Nfl, so while THE nflpa may have lost

1407
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: the report, cards the ability to make these team report

1408
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: cards public in a bit of a loss for players

1409
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: being able to help themselves improve their. Workplace though there

1410
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: are some different things that they're going to still have

1411
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: at their disposal that could get. Messy, Right, so THE

1412
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: nfl is far more punitive as a league if they

1413
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: feel that they have grounds to determine that a team

1414
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: is even passively participating in, This, RIGHT i just think

1415
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: that you already see such a rate of Churnin. Burt

1416
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: what's more important to somebody making these decisions as far

1417
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: as roster construction?

1418
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 6: On?

1419
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: All? Right can we put together a team that looks

1420
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 1: like we're trying to be more competitive than we actually

1421
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: are without anybody noticing that we're not really trying to? Win?

1422
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: HERE i just think that they'll get, five. DON'T i

1423
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: don't think that you have that kind of, Runway and

1424
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: you could argue that you don't in THE nba, Either

1425
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: but you've got a league and a commissioner in THE

1426
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: nba THAT i don't. Know sometimes you question If Adam

1427
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: silver really exists other than these pr appearances on television

1428
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: networks and things like. That About, no their product's just,

1429
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: fine as they show him on THE tv broadcast ON

1430
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: nbc right now as we're talking about him Versus, goodell

1431
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: WHERE i feel like they are so, one so caught

1432
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: up in the gambling partnerships that they do not want

1433
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: this even appearing optically that there would be the impact

1434
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: of teams trying to not feel the most competitive. Product

1435
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: it's ironic that the gambling has so, many you, know

1436
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: side issues to, it but in reality it can hold

1437
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: the most powerful league accountable that way because of the

1438
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: sheer amount of money that they're dumping into these.

1439
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: Leagues it's it's wild because there's no easy answer to.

1440
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: ANYBODY i, mean we saw this year The raiders play The,

1441
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: giants and we all joked about the fact that they

1442
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: were just making their entire rosters. UNAVAILABLE i think that

1443
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: was some of the most blatant tanking that we've seen

1444
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: in a very long. Time i'm not sure what the

1445
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: right answer is going to be because proximity to and,

1446
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: Look i'm also the same, person to be fair that

1447
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: it said for years you don't have to have a

1448
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: first overall pick to get a. Quarterback in, fact most

1449
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks were chasing in THE nfl that we

1450
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: consider the. Elite when we talk about the upper tiered

1451
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in THE, Nfl Okay Joe burrow first overall, Pick

1452
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: Great Lamar, jackson Not Josh, allen Not Patrick, mahomes not

1453
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: like you can go up and down the list Justin

1454
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: herbert not. Right so, frankly there's not a proof you

1455
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: need to have a first round quarterback typically to win

1456
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: in these. Situations that's, true but a first overall quarterback

1457
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: is not. Necessary it just feels like right now there's

1458
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: a shift happening between sort of the fact that everybody's

1459
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: keeping their own and then the fact that nil is

1460
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: keeping kids in college, longer and as we get kids

1461
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: in college, longer two things are. Happening one less prospects

1462
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: of putting themselves in a situation to be drafted. Too

1463
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: some prospects that would have been out in the draft

1464
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: right away that haven't shown a lot of bad on,

1465
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: Film Like garrettnsmeyer would have been a really high pick

1466
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: a year, ago but he comes back he doesn't play.

1467
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: Well now all of a, Sudden garrett Out nusmeyer not

1468
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 2: a really high. Pick it feels like we are seeing

1469
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: because we get, more which HELPS nfl, teams but it

1470
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: just makes it less likely to find a quarterback at ten.

1471
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: Overall if there just aren't that many quarterbacks coming out

1472
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: that are worth being.

1473
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: Picked, Yeah, NO i think it's completely, fair, Right and

1474
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: this brings up an interesting roster construction argument about trying

1475
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: to take another team's cast off at quarterback and put

1476
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: them in a better situation than they were organically drafted

1477
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: two versus being the bad team that's trying to build

1478
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: it up without enough runway from an impatient owner to

1479
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: actually let you complete a, rebuild because what's. WORSE i,

1480
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: mean my, God, fitz you've been through enough of These

1481
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: titans as A raiders. FAN i know that me here

1482
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: In nashville covering The. Titans titans fans have seen enough

1483
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: of it where you're in the middle of a rebuild

1484
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you take a step

1485
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: backwards and you continue to prolong your rebuild and then you're, saying,

1486
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: well AM i three years? Away or AM i three

1487
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: years away from being three years? Away and these kind

1488
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: of conversations right where just a series and not really

1489
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: that many decisions can set you back so meaningfully in

1490
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: this sport with all the other things that you can't,

1491
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: control especially injuries as the most important. One that and

1492
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: the development of young people like you have no idea

1493
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: you can do all the personality tests and all the

1494
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: different type of combine interviews that you. Want you have

1495
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: no idea what people are going to actually turn. Into

1496
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: you can get some pretty good, indicators but how often

1497
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: do we see people just? FAIL i, mean my, God

1498
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: James pierce out Of, tennessee the horrifying news reports of

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01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: his domestic issue With Rakaya, jackson the former ten and

1500
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: she's currently A wnba, player but the Former tennessee women's.

1501
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: PLAYER i, mean that's a guy that's a first round,

1502
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: pick and maybe you take a chance on some character

1503
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: risks and it blows up in your. FACE i, mean

1504
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: that one's a particularly gnarly. One and obviously we'll wait

1505
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: to see how the legal process plays, out but there's

1506
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: just so many different factors that can derail you meaningfully

1507
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: to WHERE i think you have to explore the idea

1508
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: of is it better to recycle our way through the

1509
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: quarterback where they're About you, know eighty percent of them

1510
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: are serviceable if we put them in a better, situation

1511
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: versus the idea, of, no we have to lose enough

1512
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: game so we can get one of these game changing.

1513
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks but all of a sudden your roster is bereft around,

1514
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: him and you're three years away from being competent around

1515
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: that quarterback that you drafted three years, prior.

1516
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: Which is why Mac jones is going to have a

1517
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 2: huge market when he's. Available LIKE i don't think the

1518
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: forty nine ers is going to make him, available but

1519
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: Mac jones is going to have a market because the

1520
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 2: exact point you, make and you, know the weirdest part

1521
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: about all of it is that timelines have. Shifted there

1522
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: is no more patience when you See mike McDonald go

1523
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: and win a Super bowl in year two and you

1524
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: See Ben, johnson have The bears turned around in year?

1525
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: One there was a concept that dan quinn will see

1526
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: if it turns out to be, true had The commanders

1527
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: turned around in one, Year like we look at all

1528
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: of these things so quickly, now and the amount of

1529
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 2: Times i've Seen buffalo fans post about the fact that you,

1530
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: know if you don't go to the Super bowl in

1531
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 2: the first five, years you won't go to a Super

1532
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: bowl with the coach, say all of this information just

1533
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: screams we need return right. Now and when you need

1534
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: return right, now, MAN i don't know what the right.

1535
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: Now the real answer is you've said a million times

1536
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 2: that nobody wants is that it's fifty three on fifty.

1537
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: Three the best team is going to win more often than,

1538
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 2: not and you need a competent quarterback with the best.

1539
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: Team but that requires getting it right over and over

1540
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: and over and over again in the, draft and nobody can.

1541
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: It just bad teams don't do. That the reason The

1542
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: jets and The browns and The raiders are always picking

1543
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: at the top of the draft isn't just because they

1544
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: don't have a. Quarterback it's because they don't typically nail

1545
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: it with the, first the, second the, third the, fourth

1546
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: the fifth round picks over and over and over. Again

1547
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: there's no easy, answer and it's a microwave, society all.

1548
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: Right coming up, next we finished every single show the

1549
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: same exact. Way it's time for the single greatest game

1550
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: show in the history of sports talk. Radio would you?

1551
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 2: Rather it's coming up next On Bucking fits On Fox Sports.

1552
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: Radio It's Bucking fits On Fox Sports. Radio He's Buck

1553
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: rising On Jason. Fitz if you missed any of today's,

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1555
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1559
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Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the. Air great to

1560
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: listen to when you're done having your Perfect valentine's. Evening

1561
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: hope everybody's out there getting the love they.

1562
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 4: Deserve you make me want to call them up, now,

1563
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 4: man thank.

1564
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: You the face is the buck makes. WELL i say

1565
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: anything in a whisper voice really makes it worth.

1566
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: It i'm not gonna.

1567
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: Lie and he's a.

1568
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: Hater you Know i'm not hating you ARE i was

1569
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: protesting silently to anything central About Jason. Fish why for

1570
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: all the reasons that he says the word? Hibby, look bro.

1571
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 4: Hibbity he makes the world go. Around.

1572
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: Dog you know.

1573
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: If you if you ain't, today if you ain't, hbby

1574
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 2: you ain't. Trying all, right let's get out, there let's

1575
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: get out in these. Streets Oh, God, oh save me from.

1576
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: Myself possibly IF i tried Ian, uh.

1577
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: Save him with the wheel?

1578
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: Him Please, god right, now colorful bright wheel.

1579
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: Never?

1580
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 2: Go would you rather we didn't do? It we didn't do.

1581
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: It we didn't do, that the wheel? Spinning now he's

1582
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: gonna ask, us would you rather? Question we'll figure it out,

1583
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,440
Speaker 2: comehead what do you got The, okay this is a topical.

1584
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: Here would you rather win A G league championship or

1585
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: WIN mvp of The Rising stars game At All star?

1586
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: Weekend, OOH i would SAY mvp of The Rising stars

1587
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: game because IF i can avoid THE G league at all,

1588
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: COSTS i. Will that's why so many college players are

1589
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: trying to regain their collegiate. Eligibility nothing pleasant about THE

1590
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: G league.

1591
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 3: Experience, championship, though there's at least the most pleasant experience

1592
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 3: you can have as A G league.

1593
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: Player, yeah, okay enjoy those commercial flights at six foot you,

1594
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: know six foot ten and stuff like. That i'm good on.

1595
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 1: ANYTHING G league.

1596
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: Look to, me that just the fact that one is

1597
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: called The Rising. Stars at least you feel like you're.

1598
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: Rising you're, like, yeah, Man i'm part of a big

1599
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: movement that's coming up in the. League i'd rather be

1600
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 2: THE mvp of The Rising stars game for. Sure the

1601
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: championship of THE G LEAGUE i can't even imagine when

1602
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 2: you walk into the club with the friends and you're,

1603
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: LIKE i got a, Championship like do they, like do

1604
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: you get to flash that? RING i. DON'T i don't think. So,

1605
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm out on that.

1606
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: One so, yeah THE G League championship ring is for

1607
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: sure getting the diamond the diamond tester to see if it's.

1608
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: Fake can THE G league champion flash the ring To

1609
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: Chris paul and say you got one of? These, no

1610
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: what's more?

1611
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 3: Impressive ONE Nba championship ring or FIFTEEN NBA G League championship?

1612
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: Rings, yeah the one real.

1613
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: One that's an easy.

1614
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,919
Speaker 4: One. Yeah, anyway it's been the week.

1615
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: Which one will harden get? First all?

1616
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: Right would you rather be seven feet tall but extremely

1617
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: unathletic and? Uncoordinated or be five feet tall but extremely?

1618
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: Athletic, oh seven feet, tall you can get away with

1619
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: so much more if you're. Tall if you're a short,

1620
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: king you're stuck being a short king for. Life i'm

1621
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: looking at one right. Now he's been using his hair

1622
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: to give him a couple extra inches for. Years at

1623
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 1: this point in, time that seems to be a failing

1624
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: strategy as the years wear. ON i feel LIKE i

1625
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: would rather be seven foot and wildly unathletic and, be you,

1626
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: know just a little fella running around out.

1627
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: There, look if my hair could give me a couple extra,

1628
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: Inches i'd have no problem with, that But i'm five to,

1629
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: nine thank you five nine and a, half all, Right

1630
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,919
Speaker 2: so like for, you, LOOK i want to be. ATHLETIC

1631
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: i want to be the five foot athletic guy that

1632
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: walks into the gym and everybody rolls their. Eyes and

1633
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,799
Speaker 2: THEN i spend the entire time just spinning around giants

1634
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: Like buck while they stand there. Unathletically and THEN i

1635
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: goes like one hand on the get my layup WHEREVER

1636
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: i want, it and then talk my talk To buck

1637
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: like especially the shorter you, are the more you can.

1638
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: Talk and that's really my. Gift so, yeah give, me

1639
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 2: give me five. Foot and then after every, single every

1640
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: single shot THAT i even get off in front Of,

1641
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 2: buck As i'm walking, Back i'm, screaming you can't stop.

1642
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: Me you can only try and contain me every single.

1643
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: Time except nobody would take you seriously if you made

1644
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: the kind of sound effects that you just made to

1645
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: imitate your, lamp what was, THAT.

1646
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't even. KNOW i don't, know But i'm just

1647
01:19:54,880 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: imagining you As taco. FALLING i ain't scared all, right, Tall.

1648
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 3: I'm a fied, too because you're all, tiny little.

1649
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: Voice i'm, like you can't stop me all, right get one.

1650
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 4: MORE i, mean.

1651
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: Just step on, you.

1652
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 2: Big.

1653
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 3: Ass Sweet would you rather have a rewind button for

1654
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,839
Speaker 3: awkward moments in life or a mute button for people

1655
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: but only you hear them as.

1656
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: Muted oh, wow that's the toughest one we've ever been.

1657
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: ASKED i feel LIKE i so desperately want to mute

1658
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: people that pissed me. Off it would be such a blessed.

1659
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: Relief but the rewind for awkward, MOMENTS i, MEAN i don't,

1660
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: Know LIKE i feel LIKE i. Don't i'm sure there

1661
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: are still awkward moments that will happen at some point

1662
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: in my. LIFE i don't feel like there's so many

1663
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: awkward moments THAT i would need the full use of

1664
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 1: a rewind butt in the way THAT i just want

1665
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: to mute stupid, people all.

1666
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: Right just the thought of Having bucky yell at me

1667
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: for ten minutes and then me being able to, Say i'm,

1668
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: SORRY i had you. MUTED i didn't hear any of.

1669
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: That that's WHAT i. Need that's. True. Heaven thanks for

1670
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: listening to bucket fits on Fosh sports video