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Speaker 1: Chris Fowler. Chris Fowler will be on the call with
Speaker 1: Kirk herbs Street. College Game Day live from Happy Valley.
Speaker 1: It's Penn State against Ohio State coming up Saturday night.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has the coronavirus mild symptoms and it's Clemson
Speaker 1: versus Boston College. At Clemson, they're still twenty three twenty
Speaker 1: four point favored in this game. We've focused on Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence not being available for this game, perhaps not being
Speaker 1: available for the Notre Dame game. But from what I'm
Speaker 1: told from my source that Clemson's math will be different
Speaker 1: than everybody else's math when it comes to the ten
Speaker 1: day quarantine for Trevor Lawrence. Somehow I gets feeling that
Speaker 1: he might have had mild symptoms on Tuesday, but he
Speaker 1: tested positive for Wednesday. Do we know the backup quarterback
Speaker 1: for Clemson. He's a high school all American from California.
Speaker 1: His first name is djes by initials. Yes, you spell
Speaker 1: his last name U I A G A L E
Speaker 1: l E. We are prepared to try to pronounce it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with uang lele huang lele. They give
Speaker 1: me that first, that first silvere leile, good about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go dja like a u lele, but a G. Mclovin.
Speaker 1: I think we missed a little bit of a syllable.
Speaker 1: I think it's uile. You seetan O'Connor uga le leile.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was because I remember watching
Speaker 1: one game in a high school at UH john Bosco,
Speaker 1: and I came in on that Monday and I said,
Speaker 1: this guy look like he looked like he was sitting,
Speaker 1: you know, Gulliver. He was six to five, and he
Speaker 1: just stood out as he's a whole lot better than
Speaker 1: everybody else on the field. And Uh, I didn't, I'd
Speaker 1: forgotten all about him. I just remember saying, that guy
Speaker 1: looked like he could play right now, Yes, what about DJ?
Speaker 1: You will not be playing against Notre Dames. I found
Speaker 1: a Clemson site that has a phonetic spelling annunciation Mclovin's
Speaker 1: really close. He may have it nailed ui al Uilila.
Speaker 1: According to a Clemson, I thought we were already. I
Speaker 1: read the phonetics, I don't want to Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was looking at the phonetics. I can't believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at the name. There's no way. It's like
Speaker 1: tongue of Violoa. Until he told people there was an
Speaker 1: end in there. Well, when I came in on that Monday,
Speaker 1: I thought his name was Yuku Lele because I'm listening
Speaker 1: to the game and I just thought, boy, this guy
Speaker 1: is looks like he's six four six five and was
Speaker 1: the best player on the field and ends up. So
Speaker 1: you got a five star recruit feeling. You know, now
Speaker 1: I'm going to come in for the five star recruit
Speaker 1: who is going to sit out this game and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: So I was asking you guys before if Notre Dame
Speaker 1: would be favored or underdog. I mean, isn't this guy
Speaker 1: basically Trevor Lawrence who came in and won immediately, So
Speaker 1: wouldn't you expect him to win immediately? Have we heard
Speaker 1: from your Vegas source, Paulion Now they say it's hard
Speaker 1: to speculate they say Trevor Lawrence could be worth easy
Speaker 1: five points to a team. He said, my Vegas guy,
Speaker 1: well he's worth seven points going into the BC game. Right,
Speaker 1: So they were thirty and a half. Now they're twenty
Speaker 1: three and a half and they don't even have a
Speaker 1: line for this game. If Trevor Lawrence doesn't play in
Speaker 1: this game, this is how Kelly Bryant lost his job.
Speaker 1: Is that ain't happening If Trevor Lawrence doesn't play against
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, it's at Notre Dame. Is Notre Dame somehow favored?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to be checking. But I would
Speaker 1: say now, right now, I would think Clemson is still
Speaker 1: going to be favored, and I thought with Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: they probably be like a ten point favored going into
Speaker 1: that game in South Ben. Yeah, mccle just reading the room,
Speaker 1: and I know you guys are following their Dame. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like anyone's excited about this team, even despite
Speaker 1: the record, like as a real bona fide contender, like
Speaker 1: a number one, like this is not the Notre Dame
Speaker 1: team that's gonna win at all, is it? Well? They
Speaker 1: want to run the ball and then take some shots.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you just load up ian
Speaker 1: book and just say go and carve up a defense.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame wants to control the clock, run the football,
Speaker 1: and then take some shots. You know. I think they
Speaker 1: have to do that against an offense like Alabama or
Speaker 1: an offense like Clemson. Is you've got to limit the
Speaker 1: number of times that you allow them on the field.
Speaker 1: And by running the clock, then you're going to be
Speaker 1: able to do that. If you do it successfully, then
Speaker 1: you can keep yourself in the game. But I remember
Speaker 1: talking to a source at the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: and I said, and Notre Dame had played I think
Speaker 1: one game, maybe two games, and I said, how does
Speaker 1: Notre Dame stack up with Alabama and Clemson? And my
Speaker 1: source said, right now, not even close. Neutral site, Alabama
Speaker 1: and Clemson are both double double digit favorites here. Plus
Speaker 1: you don't have a big home crowd here with you know,
Speaker 1: home field advantage for Notre Dame as well. Age seven
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan joined us earlier, Michael will Bonaday. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: aren't good, not good at all. Right, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1: Uh Al in Atlanta, Hi al, hey, Dan, thanks for
Speaker 1: taking McCall. Happy meet Friday, yep, uh loving the UGA,
Speaker 1: love that mclovin sending out, and happy that my Falcons
Speaker 1: finally won. To think one possession game and how they
Speaker 1: do that Dan by kicking the field goals. The best
Speaker 1: part was when the Panthers were on the forty five
Speaker 1: of the Falcons and Troy's like, oh, this is a
Speaker 1: great time for the analytics to say you'll go for it,
Speaker 1: and they got stuffed. And Third, I love Matt Ryan's
Speaker 1: reaction to you saying he should be created to San Francisco. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't he say he should. I said that if
Speaker 1: there's a possibility of him being traded, Thank you, Alt.
Speaker 1: That's how rumors get started. I said to Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: I said, look, just so you know, in case it
Speaker 1: gets back to you, I brought up your name because
Speaker 1: it was being brought up at the trade deadline. I
Speaker 1: could see where you could land in San Francisco at
Speaker 1: some point, and and I said, but that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's just my thought on this. If it happened, I
Speaker 1: could see San Francisco. And he goes, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to answer that. I go, no, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1: Patrick tells Ryan to bail on hapless Falcons. It's already
Speaker 1: hit Twitter. Dan Patrick reporting, Yeah, I know, that's that's
Speaker 1: what I'm worried about New QB and San Francisco. Patrick says, maybe, oh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't laugh. That's how things get started, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing. I love it when you know my
Speaker 1: neighbor who's not in sports. But he tells me he's
Speaker 1: hearing something. I go, yeah, what are you hearing here?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm hearing. I'm hearing the Patriots are
Speaker 1: gonna be sellers at the trade deadline. And so all right,
Speaker 1: all right, what are you hearing? I don't know, just
Speaker 1: here and they're gonna be sellers. They said, all right, yeah, mclemm.
Speaker 1: There's a new trend. It's kind of like you know
Speaker 1: how reporters run to the locker room, said this guy
Speaker 1: said this, what's your answer to it? It's like the
Speaker 1: dirtiest trick and journalism. Now guys are asking questions on
Speaker 1: zoom and other reporters are saying, oh god, that's a
Speaker 1: dumb question and forgetting their mute. It happened four times
Speaker 1: this week, like all over replaced. Mike McCarthy had to
Speaker 1: answer one yesterday where this terrible question and you heard
Speaker 1: another report go oh god, I love it. I think
Speaker 1: that they should make sure that all of these zoom
Speaker 1: calls are unmuted so we do get to hear when
Speaker 1: somebody goes well, you had that with Ohio State where
Speaker 1: there was a reporter who asked, justin fields, are you
Speaker 1: better this year? Than you were last year, and if so,
Speaker 1: how And then you hear a reporter going, oh god,
Speaker 1: that's a bad question, and then the reporter responds to
Speaker 1: the reporter basically, Hey, bring it on on. Who can
Speaker 1: ask the best questions? You know? See, well, my son
Speaker 1: is in fifth grade and he is doing school from
Speaker 1: home and so everything is on zoom. And just yesterday
Speaker 1: we had a kid like, you know, all of the
Speaker 1: kids are there together and before class they can I'll
Speaker 1: start talking and one of the kids was like, my
Speaker 1: dog is getting bread for the last time today. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, what's getting bread mean? And the
Speaker 1: kid goes, well, it's when two dogs and the teacher
Speaker 1: jumps in and goes, everyone mute yourself. Everyone who can
Speaker 1: mute yourself at lease. Thank you, grab your folders. My
Speaker 1: dogs getting bread for the last time today? What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Everyone mute? Please? Thank you. Fill in Indiana. Hi,
Speaker 1: feel good to have you back, Hey, Dan, Always a pleasure.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Hey, And wanted to comment on the
Speaker 1: Big ten Dan. It it really seems like they should
Speaker 1: have just stuck with just canceling the season. They left
Speaker 1: no room for any air Number one, number two. It
Speaker 1: seems like the administration was in place, the coaches that
Speaker 1: are in another the athletic directors are even in a
Speaker 1: different place. It just seems Dan that this is it's
Speaker 1: going to be a real mess, and I don't think
Speaker 1: we've seen the end of it, I think with Wisconsin
Speaker 1: starting it, but I think there's going to be other teams.
Speaker 1: Would appreciate your thoughts as always, and have a great weekend, Dan,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Phil. Good to hear from you. Yep, there's
Speaker 1: no room for error, no margin for error here with
Speaker 1: what happened with Wisconsin. How many players coaches affected by this?
Speaker 1: And are you gonna have to sit out three weeks?
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to walk that back a little
Speaker 1: bit because they know what's at stake. There's no open
Speaker 1: weeks here. I mentioned that Nebraska was trying to find
Speaker 1: an opponent. They found one in Tennessee Chattanooga. But all
Speaker 1: the presidents in the Big Ten prior to the restart
Speaker 1: said you cannot play a game outside the conference. Everybody
Speaker 1: knew it, and Nebraska still went ahead and was trying
Speaker 1: to schedule Tennessee Chattanooga and the Big Ten did not
Speaker 1: give permission. What I found out yesterday that I told
Speaker 1: my audience earlier is Ohio State in Michigan were, according
Speaker 1: to my source, backing Nebraska because they know they could
Speaker 1: be put in a similar situation, particularly Ohio State, because
Speaker 1: if Ohio State would lose a game on its schedule
Speaker 1: and they still want to play in the national title game,
Speaker 1: they're going to do everything they possibly can. I could
Speaker 1: see a big twelve an SEC an ACC school maybe
Speaker 1: trying to get another game if something happened to them,
Speaker 1: because you want to add to your resume, and if
Speaker 1: you're able to get somebody like BYU, to me is
Speaker 1: the outlier. BYU is not going to be in the
Speaker 1: final four. But if somebody can somehow schedule BYU. They
Speaker 1: have a first round draft pick at quarterback and they're
Speaker 1: a highly ranked team, and if you could add them
Speaker 1: to your resume, then that's what I would be trying
Speaker 1: to do, because that's all all you want to do
Speaker 1: is here our resume at the end of the year. Well,
Speaker 1: if you only have five games, it's going to be
Speaker 1: really hard to put somebody in the final four. And
Speaker 1: it's great for BYU because if BYU would be Texas
Speaker 1: A and M, then all of a sudden it strengthens
Speaker 1: their resume as well. Uh, let me see, let me
Speaker 1: get to Drew in Wisconsin. Will take a break, Chris
Speaker 1: Fowler said to join us. Hey, Drew, Hey, do you
Speaker 1: six to one end? Yeah? I just wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about the Big Ten situation as well. Um, just with
Speaker 1: how they've bungled the original canceling of the season and
Speaker 1: and how per year source they deliberately tried to punish
Speaker 1: Nebraska with um, you know, with playing Ohio States first
Speaker 1: and subsequently you know, realizing that they're also punishing the
Speaker 1: players there. How is, if you're an administrator or a
Speaker 1: parent or a student athlete at one of these schools,
Speaker 1: how can you really say that the Big Ten is
Speaker 1: is acting competently during this And really what's ethical about
Speaker 1: the whole situation? I don't think there is not. I
Speaker 1: don't think there is, Drew, Thank you. This is just
Speaker 1: a money grab. There's so much money at stake, and
Speaker 1: you know, the Big Ten did all of its research,
Speaker 1: had all this information. They've got some presidents who are
Speaker 1: in the medical field, are formerly in the medical field.
Speaker 1: They have some very bright men who are running these schools.
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to know if you were doing
Speaker 1: everything you could possibly do to salvage the season. That's
Speaker 1: all I wanted to know. And it felt like the
Speaker 1: Big Ten in Pact twelve did not do that. The
Speaker 1: SEC we knew they were going to play the ACC.
Speaker 1: I told you there were a couple of schools in
Speaker 1: the Big twelve that did not want to come back
Speaker 1: and play. But this is about money. I know that
Speaker 1: the kids want to play, but this is all about
Speaker 1: the amount of money that's at stake here and really
Speaker 1: how that affects the athletic departments here, the other programs
Speaker 1: that you have that that money, you know what it generates.
Speaker 1: And that's why I thought this year, of all years,
Speaker 1: could you expand the playoffs just because you could get
Speaker 1: four more schools in there, let's say six more schools
Speaker 1: in there, and then you're going to get the revenue.
Speaker 1: And now you get let's say, two teams in the SEC.
Speaker 1: So now you're going to share in all that money,
Speaker 1: or you get two teams from the Big ten or
Speaker 1: two teams from the Big twenty. This is a unique year,
Speaker 1: and I just thought it called for a unique approach.
Speaker 1: You can't go, oh, we can't do that. We got
Speaker 1: this in place that they've changed everything. They're changing it
Speaker 1: on the fly. You got one league that says, hey,
Speaker 1: you only have to sit out this amount of time. Hey,
Speaker 1: if you're a coach, you only have to sit out
Speaker 1: this amount of time. Another conference saying, no, you got
Speaker 1: to sit out three weeks. Everybody has there's no uniformity
Speaker 1: because of the ncl AA, And it just felt like
Speaker 1: this and the NCUBA doesn't run the playoffs. That's what
Speaker 1: I was hoping for that maybe you do this, Maybe
Speaker 1: you extended a little bit that way, you give some
Speaker 1: teams a little bit of breathing room in case you
Speaker 1: have an outbreak. We'll take a break. Well, I'll talk
Speaker 1: to Chris Fowler from the Mothership. Also in about a
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow Number three Ohio State, Number eighteen Penn State kickoff
Speaker 1: at seven thirty Eastern that'll be on Saturday Night Football
Speaker 1: Chris Fowler on the call with Kirk curb Street and
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor. College Game Day, also live from Happy Valley
Speaker 1: at nine am Eastern on ESPN. As we make way
Speaker 1: for Chris Fowler, what time or what day do you
Speaker 1: go in to start doing your prep work for these teams?
Speaker 1: Are you zooming interviews? Now it's all via zoom, Dan,
Speaker 1: everything's on a screen, a little dot of a camera
Speaker 1: usually going much sooner. Used to go in on Thursdays
Speaker 1: watch a practice which we were allowed access to, which
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun in person meetings with the players,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite parts of the job. Now,
Speaker 1: no practice because the COVID restrictions, and everything's via his zoom.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually at home right now. We'll do Penn
Speaker 1: States calls a little while and then make the late
Speaker 1: journey the Happy Valley. It's all different this year. We've
Speaker 1: talked about this before on this show, about when you
Speaker 1: go in and you do an interview. Brian Greasy when
Speaker 1: he was sitting down with Nick Foles and you know
Speaker 1: what's on the record, what's not, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, Brian Greasy saying, hey, Nick Foles told me that,
Speaker 1: you know, coach has a hard time getting the plays
Speaker 1: in and all those things, like when do you know
Speaker 1: what is on the record and all the record when
Speaker 1: you're in these meetings maybe in person with these coaches
Speaker 1: or players. That's a hard question. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that they're going to be pretty guarded. So do you
Speaker 1: feel like unless they tell you, hey, don't see anything,
Speaker 1: we feel like it's it's good for the broadcast. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's very different. If I'm going to tweet
Speaker 1: something out or Kirk's going to put something on game
Speaker 1: days Saturday morning, that's a very different level of confidentiality
Speaker 1: than hey, hold something until kickoff or don't say anything
Speaker 1: until you see it during the game. Like you might
Speaker 1: hear something in a meeting, wait till the kickoff, and
Speaker 1: then say, hey, they we're working on that fake field
Speaker 1: goal a lot this week. Can practice. Well, now you've
Speaker 1: just alerted the team. It's not like they can't be
Speaker 1: aware of what's said in the broadcast, right. So there's
Speaker 1: some of the stuff you just hold until you see it.
Speaker 1: But we want to maintain the trust because that's an
Speaker 1: important part of it. Best coaches to sit down with
Speaker 1: that actually really gave you full access or as much
Speaker 1: access as anybody. Well. I don't know if it's the best,
Speaker 1: but one of the most rising is Saban gives us
Speaker 1: great access. And he's got the reputation for being very,
Speaker 1: very tough with the media. But over the years, you've
Speaker 1: done so many Alabama games. I covered him back at
Speaker 1: Michigan State and LSU, so there's a good trust built
Speaker 1: up with our team and him. We are allowed inside
Speaker 1: the palace gates. We see Alabama's walkthroughs and practices before
Speaker 1: playoff and championship games, which is awesome because it's very
Speaker 1: very helpful. Like when they did the surprise onside kick
Speaker 1: in that game against Clemson. I had seen them practice
Speaker 1: that for two games ahead of time, and you wonder,
Speaker 1: why why are they working on an onsite kick, Like
Speaker 1: that's not an Alabama thing? But when it happened, I
Speaker 1: was ready for it because we've been allowed inside and
Speaker 1: Saban will usually talk about kind of what he the
Speaker 1: two up filling in at halftime for Jalen Hurts in
Speaker 1: the championship game, because he was pretty forthcoming in the
Speaker 1: meetings with us and allowed us to press him on it.
Speaker 1: It didn't shock Kirk or myself when two was it
Speaker 1: in there in the championship game against Georgia's. So he's
Speaker 1: one of the best, and that might might surprise you.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them who say nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, how do you know when you can press
Speaker 1: a coach good question? I mean, you have to have
Speaker 1: a history with them. If they don't know you, I mean,
Speaker 1: being around the sport for thirty two years, whether or
Speaker 1: not I've done a lot of the team's games or not,
Speaker 1: they're pretty familiar with the game day. There's usually some
Speaker 1: good will built up, or there might be some bad will.
Speaker 1: I've had some ill will built up with coaches because
Speaker 1: of stuff you say on a pregame show over the
Speaker 1: years that they didn't like. And now is there a
Speaker 1: chance to let you know that or just let you
Speaker 1: feel that? But yeah, you know it's you. Definitely. It's
Speaker 1: just like any interpersonal communication. You kind of sense that
Speaker 1: let's not go a bridge too far here, because we've
Speaker 1: gotten as much out of this as you can. Two
Speaker 1: swings and a miss. I don't don't usually go for
Speaker 1: a third swing. Right with what happened with Wisconsin and Nebraska,
Speaker 1: like how deep does this go you think with affecting
Speaker 1: Wisconsin season and as a result, the other teams in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Yeah, the twenty one day sit out
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, as you well know, you've been
Speaker 1: all over, the story is far different from the other conferences, right,
Speaker 1: So the price that Mertz will pay at Wisconsin is
Speaker 1: different than what Trevor Lawrence is going to have to
Speaker 1: deal with a Clemson assuming he comes back and isn't
Speaker 1: an ongoing situation, could still cost Lawrence the Notre Dame game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the Nebraska, I mean the Wisconsin
Speaker 1: Michigan game is what's sitting out their major showdown game,
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to affect the Wisconsin players
Speaker 1: for that. Here's the deal. In the Big Ten, they
Speaker 1: just had no margin for error. There were no buy
Speaker 1: weeks to slide these games into. That's why the game
Speaker 1: is postponed and not rescheduled. And you know when the
Speaker 1: Big Ten presidents were sold on coming back again, you
Speaker 1: probably know this, but they were sold that with daily
Speaker 1: manage and testing, they felt like they could be almost
Speaker 1: one hundred percent or one hundred percent able to prevent
Speaker 1: it for running through a team. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you sell that one hundred percent in this day
Speaker 1: and age with what's unknowable. But I think that they
Speaker 1: were surprised that there was an outbreak this early in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten season. It would cost a game. I
Speaker 1: unfortunately don't think we're done with that in any league.
Speaker 1: So and I was told last night that Michigan and
Speaker 1: Ohio State we're backing Nebraska to be able to schedule
Speaker 1: this game with Tennessee Chattanooga because they know they could
Speaker 1: be in a situation similar where they may lose an
Speaker 1: opponent who can't play, and they want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you spice up that resume because in particular, Ohio
Speaker 1: State wants to play for a national championship, and if
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're playing five games or six games,
Speaker 1: that's going to have a certainly an adverse effect on
Speaker 1: that site test that they would get into the final four,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it absolutely? I mean, I think you have to
Speaker 1: be really good every week out and be prepared to
Speaker 1: only play six games seven games. And I've always said
Speaker 1: the schedule is a best scenario, and that goes for
Speaker 1: every single conference. Now, if all the contenders are nicked up,
Speaker 1: if there's an asterisk through all of their schedules that
Speaker 1: may even out. But you know, Ohio State, for example,
Speaker 1: they're playing at Illinois late in the season. I worry
Speaker 1: about these teams letting their guard down once their goals
Speaker 1: are shot, right when they're not playing for something all
Speaker 1: the protocols. It's tough the isolation mentally on these players.
Speaker 1: It's tough on all of us, right, it's tough on
Speaker 1: all college students especially, and it's tough on players. And
Speaker 1: you know, if your goals are shot and you're playing
Speaker 1: for Illinois, I'm not to say that they won't do
Speaker 1: the right thing, but that's just an example of a
Speaker 1: late season game. If they can't feel the team or
Speaker 1: they got too many positives and Ohio State can't play them,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not going to help their case, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. They better look good when they have a chance.
Speaker 1: He's Chris Fowler ESPN College Football and a tennis host
Speaker 1: as well. They've got Ohio State and Penn State coming
Speaker 1: up on Saturday night. Indiana over Penn State. We come
Speaker 1: up with a new stat, Chris, game losing touchdowns. Penn
Speaker 1: State had a game losing touchdown. Todd Gurley had a
Speaker 1: game losing touchdown. What do you think of that step?
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, I think it's it's one
Speaker 1: of those deals where it's easy to blast the player.
Speaker 1: But the coaches I talked to say, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how many times you tell a guy that, I guess
Speaker 1: it's less it's less forgivable in the NFL, but in
Speaker 1: college a guy fighting the instinct to score their very
Speaker 1: young player, you know, falling down at the two is
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. They told him again and again,
Speaker 1: but you know, you forget. I think the bigger concern
Speaker 1: is you look at teams unable to sort of finish
Speaker 1: off games they should win, and this didn't fall into
Speaker 1: that category. But Penn State fans, one of the things
Speaker 1: that's been frustrating is that you look at the games
Speaker 1: they've had leads in the fourth quarter of not not
Speaker 1: a blowout where where it's hard to lose the lead,
Speaker 1: but let's say it's a nine point or less lead
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and that's been called kind of
Speaker 1: a save opportunity. That's that's happened twenty eight times an
Speaker 1: eleven games have slipped away in that situation. Going back
Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen. That's a lot of blown leads in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And they've had some close losses to
Speaker 1: Ohio State. They've been the one team in the league
Speaker 1: it's been able to hang with Ohio State. They lost
Speaker 1: to Indiana. It shakes people up because it makes this
Speaker 1: a virtual elimination game for them. But they dominated the game.
Speaker 1: I'm just watching the replay of it right here. I mean,
Speaker 1: the defense was great until the last drive in regulation.
Speaker 1: The offense self destructed a bit, and they moved the
Speaker 1: ball up and down the field, and they were better
Speaker 1: than that result indicates. And I got to be a
Speaker 1: lot better than they are in that game against Ohio State.
Speaker 1: And speaking of Ohio State with Justin Fields, I remember
Speaker 1: having Herbie on a couple of months ago and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, who do you like going into the pros?
Speaker 1: Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence? And he said he liked
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Now, I know there's an Ohio State bias,
Speaker 1: but it's not got a Clemson Well maybe maybe just
Speaker 1: a little maybe just I got to defend my guy there.
Speaker 1: I gotta defend my gun. But it's let's go to Clemson.
Speaker 1: Do you really think that he thinks Justin Fields would
Speaker 1: be a better pro quarterback than Trevor Lawrence. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he thinks. I mean, I think they're both
Speaker 1: great prospects. I mean Fields has improved his footwork, he
Speaker 1: throws a beautiful look in football. Trevor is Trevor. I mean,
Speaker 1: we look at the Ohio State game last year. He
Speaker 1: takes a shot, he looks like he's going to be
Speaker 1: knocked out for like a month, comes back in the game,
Speaker 1: wins it. Sixty five yard run against a good defense
Speaker 1: last year. I don't know what else he can do.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can be a better looking
Speaker 1: prospect than Trevor Is. But Fields is right there. I
Speaker 1: agree with him, you know, because what he can do
Speaker 1: running the ball. But if there's a blowout, Chris, here's
Speaker 1: a topic for you. You can bring it up to
Speaker 1: Herbie during the game. Yeah, I like, I will. I
Speaker 1: will bring that up because Ohio State fans would like
Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say. That's I mean, sorry, listen, Dan,
Speaker 1: I get asked this stuff all the time. I got
Speaker 1: no freaking idea about Sunday readiness. Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who the best prospect is there's guys who get hate
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I know whose livelihood depends on
Speaker 1: making these judgments, and they're wrong a lot. So why
Speaker 1: is somebody covers college? I don't, but the guy eyes
Speaker 1: and gets to me. We come to the draft. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna be the bottle? It's better pro? I'm gonna watch
Speaker 1: him because I'm a fan of guys on Sunday who
Speaker 1: I saw play on Saturday? But I don't know who's
Speaker 1: gonna be better? I mean Burrow. I think we knew
Speaker 1: it was going to be a pretty good pro. I'll say,
Speaker 1: but how do you know when somebody is milking you
Speaker 1: for information? To bet um? They're usually pretty transparent, and
Speaker 1: then it's easy to say I got no idea there too.
Speaker 1: But who you got? Who do you like? Who do
Speaker 1: you like? Hate that question? Man? The reason why my
Speaker 1: podcast is entitled who You've Got? Is because I saw
Speaker 1: John Madden get bombarded with that question a hundred times,
Speaker 1: way back when I was a college student trying to
Speaker 1: hang around him. He was shooting a commercial and older
Speaker 1: and people, Hey, John, who you got? Who do you like?
Speaker 1: His mood went from krusty to dark because he just
Speaker 1: hated that question. And I filed that away. Never ask
Speaker 1: an announcer, hey, who do you like? Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: try to avoid that, but you get it all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did too. I got it from Pete
Speaker 1: Rose in the nineteen eighty six NLCS with the Astros
Speaker 1: and the Mets at Chase Stadium. I'm with Bob Costas
Speaker 1: and we're standing near the top step and Pete walks by,
Speaker 1: and he goes, who do you like? And Pete was
Speaker 1: betting through He placed some bets through the bookie that
Speaker 1: I used to bet through in Ohio, and I knew
Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing. And Bob and I looked
Speaker 1: at each other and when Pete left, and we just
Speaker 1: knew Pete was going to place a bet right then,
Speaker 1: No matter what we said, he was going to place
Speaker 1: a bet. But he goes, who do you guys like today?
Speaker 1: And I knew, I'm like, I gotta like the Mets
Speaker 1: there at home? And uh, I don't even think Bob
Speaker 1: answered him. And then Pete probably went and placed to bet,
Speaker 1: probably took the Astros. That's a great story. I can
Speaker 1: see Bob not answering for sure, but I like to
Speaker 1: make a bet in the fourth inning right. Uh safe
Speaker 1: travels there to Happy Valley and uh, thanks again for
Speaker 1: joining us, Chris. It's a it's a short trip. Than
Speaker 1: keep your figures crossed. The Clemson starting quarterback now that
Speaker 1: Trevor's out, how do you pronounce DJ's last name? J?
Speaker 1: Good up with that? Well, we were I try to avoid,
Speaker 1: like I was. I had to say it a couple
Speaker 1: of times because he got in the game and we
Speaker 1: did a Clemson game which was a blowout, and I'm
Speaker 1: like and Kirk was just like syllable. Um, it took
Speaker 1: him five seconds to say the name. And we just
Speaker 1: just call him DJ. Just call him DJ. That's what
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna call us. Just calling a E I O U.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're trying to, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: sound out the vows ale. It's a tricky one for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: we got two us, so we can get this one.
Speaker 1: We got some time on this one. You do. Thank you, Chris.
Speaker 1: That's Chris Fowler. He's got the game coming up on
Speaker 1: Saturday night, Ohio State against Penn State. Kickoff is at
Speaker 1: seven thirty Eastern. We'll take a break and hopefully check
Speaker 1: in with Dave Roberts. The Dodger manager. Right after this
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Speaker 1: Ted Moore, who passed away. He was a big Seahawk fan.
Speaker 1: Love listening to the show at work, and he says
Speaker 1: even now writing about him in past tense is so heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: the Dodger manager, World Champion Dodger manager, Dave Roberts joining us.
Speaker 1: How much sleep have you had? DP? Good morning, So
Speaker 1: not a whole lot. I've got about five hours the
Speaker 1: last couple of nights, and truth be told us because
Speaker 1: I've got this remodel going. It's about a month late
Speaker 1: and they're starting at seven am, so not what I
Speaker 1: signed up for. But it's all good. Wait, wait, you
Speaker 1: scheduled to remodeling at this time. Dude. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be done by the World Series October twenty eighth, Game seven.
Speaker 1: So I come back, and you know how things always
Speaker 1: get pushed back. So I got banging outside seven am.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's all good now. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to complain. I'm not going to choke on my lobster.
Speaker 1: I guess, hey, nobody, when's the last time you had
Speaker 1: a project that finished on time? Dude? I hear you,
Speaker 1: I hear you. No, that's that's on me. That's I'm
Speaker 1: all about accountability. So you know, you know it's my
Speaker 1: wife running with this thing, but I'll take the blame.
Speaker 1: It's all good, all right, Well, congratulations, has it? Has
Speaker 1: it sunk in? Or when did it sink in? You
Speaker 1: know what, it's still stinking in. And to win that
Speaker 1: last baseball game of the season. I haven't done it
Speaker 1: in since two thousand and four, so I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: it just kind of slowly sink in for as long
Speaker 1: as it possibly can. But you know, once that last
Speaker 1: out was made, obviously I was over the moon. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about my father, I was thinking about Clayton
Speaker 1: just in our guys and just kind of gradually it's
Speaker 1: stinking in and I'm gonna enjoy this. DP give me
Speaker 1: the moment whatever game it was that things changed or
Speaker 1: your confidence level went up that you knew were you
Speaker 1: gonna get us? Yeah, So it's funny, is I Actually
Speaker 1: my family and I kind of went back and did
Speaker 1: the recap of all the series. There were so many moments,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be the Will Smith home run,
Speaker 1: the Key gave that, the double play in the NLCS
Speaker 1: that Mookie made that play, the Ozuna, like, there's so
Speaker 1: many things that flipped a potential series. I think once, um,
Speaker 1: I think once we got out of that double play
Speaker 1: with Trinan, I just knew we were gonna win the
Speaker 1: World Series that double play, you know where he came in, second, third,
Speaker 1: nobody out. But in the World Series, I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but yeah, when when they took Blake Snell out,
Speaker 1: I mean he was dealing. I just felt that and
Speaker 1: Mookie looked at me and kind of smiled, and I
Speaker 1: just kind of felt the momentum shift right there, and
Speaker 1: I just knew we were gonna win that night. Did
Speaker 1: you sense anything with Snell that maybe you guys were
Speaker 1: catching up to him. Did your players say anything to
Speaker 1: you that, hey, you know what if he stays in,
Speaker 1: we're on top of him. Now. No, No, I mean
Speaker 1: there was nothing like that. And I know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of criticism going on, but there was nothing like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was he was on point. But and
Speaker 1: that's what I was wondering. You know, we get married
Speaker 1: to analytics, and while you have analytics, you still have
Speaker 1: to make a feeling. I don't want to marry analytics.
Speaker 1: I want to date analytics, Dave, And it feels like
Speaker 1: sometimes we get so deep into it that your your
Speaker 1: gut feeling. How much gut feeling do you have when
Speaker 1: you manage? Yeah, well a lot, a lot, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use that one. I want to date analytics, not marry.
Speaker 1: I love that one. So um, I think for me,
Speaker 1: M yeah, there's a lot. I mean, if you watch
Speaker 1: you know, Game six right there, I thought Gonson was
Speaker 1: going to go five innings and it just didn't work
Speaker 1: out that way. You got to kind of go to
Speaker 1: different guys and kind of be nimble and trust your players.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well said you have to use your gut
Speaker 1: and your eyes and then also all the above the
Speaker 1: situation where you had with Justin Turner where going into
Speaker 1: the game, Like, what did you know going into the
Speaker 1: game about his status? I knew nothing. I knew he
Speaker 1: was a starting third baseman hitting third for us, and
Speaker 1: then I think he was the middle of the seventh
Speaker 1: kind of we were hitting at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: seventh and then our team president came down and Andrew
Speaker 1: in the desert and which is obviously never happens, and
Speaker 1: kind of weighed me down below and said we need
Speaker 1: to get JH at a game. He tested positive for coronavirus.
Speaker 1: And so at that point in time, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: trying to engage Justin and Andrew, but I got to
Speaker 1: manage a game. So I get back up there, get
Speaker 1: Rios and the game, get him hot, and then honestly,
Speaker 1: DP after the game, I'm doing press conferences and then
Speaker 1: we have a team picture. I run out and JT's
Speaker 1: there and we're all caught up in emotion, and I
Speaker 1: will say, this is and he is a great teammate.
Speaker 1: He's done so much for the city, the community. He
Speaker 1: did not want to make it about himself, and obviously
Speaker 1: it's turned about him. It's just a very unfortunate situation.
Speaker 1: And Dan, you and I have known each other for
Speaker 1: so many years where I kind of look at things
Speaker 1: from the lens of let's just hope and pray nothing
Speaker 1: happens from this. Understand that people make mistakes and you
Speaker 1: regret things you do. But he didn't want to make
Speaker 1: it about himself, and let's just hope and pray nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't get you know, contracted by this,
Speaker 1: and no one else does. But you're told by how
Speaker 1: are you told that you got to take turn around?
Speaker 1: Are you ordered to take him out? Yeah? Absolutely? I
Speaker 1: mean this is like, this is like a commissioner kind
Speaker 1: of talking to ownership, to our team president to me
Speaker 1: saying we got to take him out right now, and
Speaker 1: there's no kind of discussion. But he had already played.
Speaker 1: That's what I didn't understand. And then where does Justin
Speaker 1: Turner go, Like, you say, hey, you're coming out of
Speaker 1: the lineup, you've tested positive. Where did you send him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what I think of. Training staff took it
Speaker 1: from there and they kind of self isolated him in
Speaker 1: a training in a separate kind of training room at
Speaker 1: that point. And then after that he kind of went
Speaker 1: back to the hotel separate and we left as a
Speaker 1: group and as a team, and then we had to
Speaker 1: stay back as well. Yeah, have you been tested. I've
Speaker 1: been tested. We've been tested the last you know, every
Speaker 1: day since we got in the bubble, and I've been
Speaker 1: tested every day since. So all the tests that I've
Speaker 1: got up to this point have been negative. And I
Speaker 1: guess that there's still that gestation period, so we're still
Speaker 1: going to kind of obviously I'm quarantine right now, so
Speaker 1: I've had a good excuse to stay at home and
Speaker 1: stay away from people. Yeah, I feel bad that it
Speaker 1: kind of took over the World Series or the end
Speaker 1: of the World Series or summing up baseball, because baseball
Speaker 1: gone fifty eight days, there were no positive tests, the
Speaker 1: finish line was there, and then we didn't even know
Speaker 1: when Turner was being taken out. I'm listening to Joe Buck.
Speaker 1: Joe didn't even know why Turner was taken out, Like
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like crazy. It was crazy, Dan,
Speaker 1: And I'll say, this man is like and that is real. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this pandemic and it's kind of identified, you know, our
Speaker 1: entire country and the entire world. But in this moment
Speaker 1: of time, I just hope that, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: take away from the joy from so many uh you know,
Speaker 1: Dodger fans that have waited thirty two years and again,
Speaker 1: let's just all kind of hope and pray nothing nothing
Speaker 1: else comes to this with Jessin get on the field,
Speaker 1: and let's make sure Jessin's healthy as well. The only
Speaker 1: reaction I wanted to see, and that final out is
Speaker 1: I wanted to see Clayton Kershawn's reaction. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it'd be a big smile like
Speaker 1: I love Mookie's smile. But when I saw Clayton, it
Speaker 1: was if he just went and then pointed up to
Speaker 1: the sky and it was like, Okay, now I can
Speaker 1: everybody can get on with their lives. They don't have
Speaker 1: to talk about my legacy or any of this other stuff.
Speaker 1: I was happy for him that now we can allow
Speaker 1: him to just be Clayton kershaw again. What did you think?
Speaker 1: I love that DP And I'm telling you, you rewind
Speaker 1: a year ago and there's a tech exchange, a phone
Speaker 1: call that Clayton and I both had after we lost
Speaker 1: to the Nationals, and you know, I can't even I
Speaker 1: have my own world, but with what he has had
Speaker 1: to deal with the last five years. That's the thing
Speaker 1: is that where you don't want to leave your house,
Speaker 1: and everywhere you go and everywhere around you, people are
Speaker 1: saying the certain thing about you and you feel it,
Speaker 1: you know it, and so that's why, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought about my father first and then next person. Next
Speaker 1: thing I thought about was Clayton. So to see that reaction,
Speaker 1: that emotion, the tears of joy just for him, his family,
Speaker 1: his friends and teammates. You know, you want to do
Speaker 1: it for the Dodgers, the team, but if there's one
Speaker 1: person that we all were pulling for, and it was Clayton,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Are you going to do a special wine
Speaker 1: with your red stitch of and I always go through one.
Speaker 1: I love that. You know what I haven't thought about
Speaker 1: that maybe we can kind of partner together and do
Speaker 1: this Dpete Dot Commemorative twenty twenty Los Angeles Dodgs World
Speaker 1: Championship wine. I know Freddie's a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Freddie Couples, he's in the wine. We'll kind of all
Speaker 1: get together. But I don't know, but I know I've
Speaker 1: drank a great bottle of eighty two latour. Oh no,
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty tasty. So life is good
Speaker 1: these days. DP. Hey, congrats, happy for you, Dave, and
Speaker 1: enjoy the off season whatever his left of the off
Speaker 1: season here and thanks thanks for joining us. DP is
Speaker 1: the best. Thank you. That's Dave Roberts, manager of the
Speaker 1: LA Dodgers. Look, I appreciate him coming on because he
Speaker 1: knew I was going to ask the Justin Turner questions,
Speaker 1: and he understands the severity of it, how it looks
Speaker 1: for Major League Baseball and what role the Dodgers played,
Speaker 1: and from what I'm told that Justin Turner probably was
Speaker 1: will not be suspended, but that my sort of said
Speaker 1: that the Dodgers were probably going to be fined and
Speaker 1: Justin Turner was going to be fine. That's what I
Speaker 1: was told, i'd think two days ago. And I understand
Speaker 1: that we don't even know Justin Turner is going to
Speaker 1: be with the Dodgers next year, but I still think
Speaker 1: Baseball should investigate baseball in you know, where he was,
Speaker 1: and should he have been sent back to a hotel,
Speaker 1: the fact that he was adamant that he wanted to
Speaker 1: go back out there and celebrate with his teammates. And
Speaker 1: I and I get that. You know he may not
Speaker 1: be with this team. He wanted to celebrate with his team,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that we can overlook a selfish decision.
Speaker 1: Here and hopefully the NFL everybody learns from this. Final
Speaker 1: results of the pole question there mcclub oh. By the way,
Speaker 1: two more positive tests for I see a Broncos offensive
Speaker 1: lineman tested positive. A Vikings linebackers tested positive according to
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, So more positive test Paul who would rather
Speaker 1: as the man LaRussa or a J. Hinch? Fifty two
Speaker 1: percent LaRussa. There we go, Let's go around the room.
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